On 9/26/06, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Christoph Haas] > Currently the way to install KDE is to provide the option > "tasksel/first=kde-desktop" when booting the Etch installer CD. No > user will guess that. Ah, is that how it is done. Thank you for the clue. It should be mentioned in the documentation available on F2-10 when the CD boot.
I agree with the documentation bit, but as i said it will be possible use 'tasks=kde-desktop' in d-i etch rc1.
In Debian Edu, we use KDE. The choice was mostly because of the availability of translation for the languages we care about, but also because the KDE tools were (and are) very good and well integrated. Perhaps someone should wrap up a separate set of CDs with KDE as the default desktop? It should not be too hard. Debian/Gnome and Debian/KDE could exist side by side.
FYI, the three current desktop tasks (desktop, gnome-desktop, kde-desktop) won't fit entirely in the first CD. They fit in DVD1 though. My proposal is generate: Debian GNOME Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and gnome-desktop tasks) Debian KDE Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and kde-desktop tasks) Debian XFCE Desktop CD (xfce-desktop wasn't added yet but is in my tasksel' branch) Debian regular CDs Debian regular DVDs Do we need more than just work on debian-cd for this?
I can perfectly understand the d-i and debian-cd teams unwillingness to dive into the desktop selection discussion. But on the other hand one is already taking side in the discussion by keeping gnome as the default.
I can't understand how people ignored the discussion and the work that has being done in the desktop underground of the project ! You're still free to read or ignore my blog posts and follow debian-desktop mailing list.
Anyway, I believe the users of KDE need to work on improving the default KDE desktop and make it easily available (for example by making a KDE version of the Debian CD), and then let the users choose which desktop they prefer.
They're free to do that. Your point is that it will be harder to install KDE desktop than GNOME desktop, stop arguing about freedom here please.
> What I would expect at least: Rename the task from "Desktop" to > "Desktop (Gnome)" so more experienced users know what's coming up. Good idea.
I disagree as i explained in my previous message.
> What I would prefer: Tasks for Gnome, KDE and optionally Xfce (for > the less resource-fortunate). I believe it is a bad idea to increase the cognitive strain on new users by adding more options to the task lists. Most new users do not have any opinion, and should thus not be forced to choose between Gnome and KDE. They rightfully expect us to choose for them, and we should. Though I am unhappy with the Gnome choice selected by the tasksel maintainer, I agree that such choice must be made for the default installation system, to avoid confusing new users unnecessarily.
Well said. regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
