gmail.com used to do that to lists.debian.org. We deliver ~300,000
emails to gmail a day. It resulted in some deliveries timing out before
they were even attempted; I'll let you imagine the rest.
Cheers,
Pasc
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 08:35 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Santiago Vila]
> > Fo
Le Ven 17 Juin 2005 01:42, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 03:09:47PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le Jeu 16 Juin 2005 14:33, Santiago Vila a écrit :
> > > Now that we have released sarge, I would like to ask debian-admin
> > > and the Project Leader to consider seriously d
[Santiago Vila]
> For example, we could use greylisting. Or we could reject messages that
> are known to come directly from trojanized windows machines acting as
> open proxies. Or even better, we could do both things.
Or a completely different option. Here at the university the
postmasters implem
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 10:45 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > What's painful about it?
> >
> > It stops a lot of viruses and spam, with no false positives. What's the
> > problem?
>
> "No false positives" seems a bit optimistic.
>
> One problem I've encou
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 07:41 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Wouter Verhelst:
>
> > What's painful about it?
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if it already increases load on
> lists.debian.org significantly.
>
>
Not nearly as much as people who teergrub us. We can _really_ feel them.
Cheers,
Pasc
also sprach Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0658 +0200]:
> So, to summarize, the rationale here is : don't set umask in the
> default login.defs and leave this to shells and/or pam_umask.
> Right?
Yes.
> I have to keep some kind of explanation for the default login.defs
> file,
> day. Many of the false positives were from the same people, who could
> have removed their CBL listing easily. (If they didn't fix the
Hmmm, IIRC I was among these ones and the reasons was the CBL listing
all dynamic and non dynamic addresses from Free, one of the 2-3 major
ISPs for DSL in Fr
> Filing a bug against login...
(shadow maintainer hat on)
bugger...:-)
I was reading this thread and just told to self : dude, this will end
up in a BR against shadow/login:-)
So, to summarize, the rationale here is : don't set umask in the
default login.defs and leave this to shells and/o
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:18:06PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>
> iceme -- A graphical menu editor for IceWM [#227054]
> * Orphaned 520 days ago
> * Package orphaned > 360 days ago.
>
> icepref -- Yet another configuration tool for IceWM [#227077]
> * Orphaned 520 days ago
> * Package
also sprach Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0208 +0200]:
> And unless they know about the completely non-standard /etc/umask.conf,
> they'll still edit multiple files.
True enough... unless files like /etc/profile include some magic
code for umask (rather than the umask call itself
* Wouter Verhelst:
> What's painful about it?
I wouldn't be surprised if it already increases load on
lists.debian.org significantly.
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Below I have included the text rejecting my httperf package. I am
taking over as maintainer and uploaded a new version that also closed a
couple of bugs and moved it from non-US to main. If linking with libssl
is not permissible, should the version that is currently in Sarge be
slated for removal
On 17/06/05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > gkdial -- PPP dial-up configuration and dialing tool [#287992]
> > * Orphaned 164 days ago
> > * 1 RC bugs.
>
> Does any graphical ppp frontend exist that can be used instead of this?
there is kppp (?) for KDE, and
Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recomed using spamhaus SBL-XBL, or at least CBL (which is included in
> SBL-XBL).
Spamhaus's rather irresponsible behavior in the past[*] hasn't left a
happy impression; have they cleaned up their act lately?
[*] Extremely lax standards for listings,
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: libparse-debianchangelog-perl
Version : 0.2
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* URL : not yet
* License : GPL
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Now that we have released sarge, I would like to ask debian-admin and
>the Project Leader to consider seriously doing something to reduce the
>level of spam we have to receive, store, and filter in our @debian.org
>addresses.
I recomed usi
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 04:26:36AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 17:20 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > So, maybe it's time to revisit the weaknesses of the shlibs system,
> > particularly as they apply to glibc. Scott James Remnant had done some
> > poking in this are
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> gkdial -- PPP dial-up configuration and dialing tool [#287992]
> * Orphaned 164 days ago
> * 1 RC bugs.
Does any graphical ppp frontend exist that can be used instead of this?
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On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 17:20 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> So, maybe it's time to revisit the weaknesses of the shlibs system,
> particularly as they apply to glibc. Scott James Remnant had done some
> poking in this area about a year ago, which involved tracking when
> individual symbols were ad
* Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > * Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > > > * Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > > All of MoFo trademarks that were not being used in a manne
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Jun 16, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm not trying to say it's non-free. It is free. What I'm trying to
> > determine is if we should use the marks within Debian. Let me try
> Good. This was not obvious at all by reading your precede
On 16-Jun-05, 17:23 (CDT), martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any point in following through with the /etc/umask.conf
> proposal? libpam-umask is optional after all, and unless people know
> about it, they'll edit multiple files wrt umask, and we *could*
> unify this with relati
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What's painful about it?
>
> It stops a lot of viruses and spam, with no false positives. What's the
> problem?
"No false positives" seems a bit optimistic.
One problem I've encountered in the past is big mail providers (like
yahoo) who will send retr
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:23:39PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:48:55AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > > > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > > Where poss
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* URL : http://buildbot.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
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On 6/16/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 04:03:32PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote:
> > On the Ubuntu side, divergences from the last Debian glibc drop that
> > was merged into hoary (2.3.2.ds1-20) include subtle but important
> > fixes to NPTL/TLS (with part
Ian Murdock writes:
> On 6/16/05, Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hoary (like sarge) is built against 2.3.2.
> >
> > Breezy (like current sid) is built against 2.3.5.
>
> Why?
- Ubuntu supports its powerpc users with a ppc64 toolchain and kernels.
- Ubuntu does toolchain upgrades at
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> What's painful about it?
>
> It stops a lot of viruses and spam, with no false positives. What's the
> problem?
These are common misapprehensions about greylisting. Unfortunately:
It has false positives. /var/lib/greylistd/whitelist-hosts lists a
se
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 04:03:32PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote:
> On 6/16/05, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > glibc. Shipping X.org and GNOME 2.10 adds value, since sarge doesn't
> > ship them. Shipping glibc 2.6.5 vs. glibc 2.6.2 just adds
> > incompatibilities.
> Speaking as someo
Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> While many bugs are a reason to remove a package quickly, no bugs
> aren't a reason to keep it forever. The Debian QA group maintains
> packages that are orphaned to give other maintainers the chance
> to adopt it without too much hassle, and as a se
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 03:09:47PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Jeu 16 Juin 2005 14:33, Santiago Vila a écrit :
> > Now that we have released sarge, I would like to ask debian-admin and
> > the Project Leader to consider seriously doing something to reduce
> > the level of spam we have to rec
Michael K. Edwards writes:
> In general, it's not trivial to set up a build environment that
> reliably produces binary packages that are installable on both sarge
> and hoary. (I happen to have such an environment at work, based on a
> part-careful-part-lucky snapshot of sid, but it's not somethi
On 6/16/05, Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > trustees -- Advanced permission management system for Linux [#251189]
> > orphaned 379 days ago, according to maintainer upstream dead, removal
> > already suggested one year ago, very small install base
> One more issue in favour of this is
Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote on 16/06/2005 23:13:
> On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 22:13 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
>>Perhaps this might be true for the initial Perl implementation, but:
>>
>>"[2001/03/03 10:05] Markus Schoder has contributed finddupes.cpp, GPL'ed
>>source code for a C++ based version of m
also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0103 +0200]:
> > /etc/login.defs is only read for console logins, not for e.g. SSH
> > logins.
> Then maybe the umask setting should be removed from there?
r agree. Since any login session these days will invoke a shell,
there is no point in
On 6/16/05, Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Python is basic for Ubuntu. Given the long freeze of sarge, Debian had
> to support 2.1 (jython), 2.2 (for zope 2.6) and 2.3 for sarge. I'm
> happy we did have a possibility to ship 2.4.1 with sarge. Maybe not
> with the best packaging, but it
On 6/16/05, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> glibc. Shipping X.org and GNOME 2.10 adds value, since sarge doesn't
> ship them. Shipping glibc 2.6.5 vs. glibc 2.6.2 just adds
> incompatibilities.
Speaking as someone with no Ubuntu affiliation (and IANADD either), I
think that statement is b
On Jun 17, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> also sprach Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0033 +0200]:
> > There is already an umask setting in /etc/login.defs. If it makes people
> > happy, I will happily drop the umask setting from /etc/profile, so
> > that people do not
On Jun 17, Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is already an umask setting in /etc/login.defs. If it makes people
> happy, I will happily drop the umask setting from /etc/profile, so
> that people do not have to decide between login.defs and profile
> when trying to set an umask globa
On Jun 16, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not trying to say it's non-free. It is free. What I'm trying to
> determine is if we should use the marks within Debian. Let me try
Good. This was not obvious at all by reading your precedent postings.
> another example. If, say, the Apache
Ian Murdock wrote:
> On 6/16/05, Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I strongly suspect they're
> > > more interested in your X.org and GNOME 2.10. Given
> > > that, a lot of this divergence seems pretty gratutious to me.
> >
> > Yes, these are both very interesting to users.
> >
> > Wh
also sprach Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0033 +0200]:
> There is already an umask setting in /etc/login.defs. If it makes people
> happy, I will happily drop the umask setting from /etc/profile, so
> that people do not have to decide between login.defs and profile
> when trying to
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:19:32AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Jeremie Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I got no luck lately and managed to make ssh-krb5 fail due to library
> > linkage weirdness. It took me ages to figure out what was going on! (I
> > learnt alot on the way, however.)
>
Jeremie Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm still not completely understanding how I have been able to come up
> with this library clash "evidence" (maybe I just needed a culprit.) The
> sensible thing I'm going to do now is reporting a wishlist bug against
> libkrb53 to tolerate whitespace
Rich Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Most of the creditted authors have stated that they are happy for it to
> be converted to GPL.
Most isn't enough; someone needs to decide that all of the code has now
been covered or replace the code that hasn't been covered.
> And moria hasn't had a bug
Hi,
Martin Michlmayr schrieb:
> race -- 3D arcade overhead car game [#251706]
> orphaned 376 days ago, about 3 years old, new upstream releases not
> uploaded, medium install base, "only a game"
race eats up 640MB of memory, then dies on my system (ppc).
> arpd -- User-space ARP daemon [#19
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, martin f krafft wrote:
> If one is faced with the task to set the umask globally for all
> users and shells, this turns out to be a job of redundancy: every
> shell uses its own file in /etc, and you end up making changes to
> 5 files or more (depending on the number of instal
also sprach Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0011 +0200]:
> > 1. gather comments.
>
> apt-cache show libpam-umask
Very nice. I almost feel silly now.
Is there any point in following through with the /etc/umask.conf
proposal? libpam-umask is optional after all, and unless people
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:39:39PM +0100, Rich Walker wrote:
> And moria hasn't had a bug in a long time.
While many bugs are a reason to remove a package quickly, no bugs
aren't a reason to keep it forever. The Debian QA group maintains
packages that are orphaned to give other maintainers the cha
* martin f krafft [Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:05:08 +0200]:
> 1. gather comments.
apt-cache show libpam-umask
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On 6/16/05, Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I strongly suspect they're
> > more interested in your X.org and GNOME 2.10. Given
> > that, a lot of this divergence seems pretty gratutious to me.
>
> Yes, these are both very interesting to users.
>
> Which 'divergence' do you mean when y
On 6/16/05, Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hoary (like sarge) is built against 2.3.2.
>
> Breezy (like current sid) is built against 2.3.5.
Why?
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Eric Dorland wrote:
> * Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > > * Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > All of MoFo trademarks that were not being used in a manner
> > > > consistent with trademark law[2] would have
If one is faced with the task to set the umask globally for all
users and shells, this turns out to be a job of redundancy: every
shell uses its own file in /etc, and you end up making changes to
5 files or more (depending on the number of installed shells).
What's worse: change the umask and you'l
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:23:39PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:48:55AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > Where possible, sure. But "principles" doesn't mean "the rules sh
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 03:44:41PM +0200, Jeremie Koenig wrote:
> I got no luck lately and managed to make ssh-krb5 fail due to library
> linkage weirdness. It took me ages to figure out what was going on!
> (I learnt alot on the way, however.)
>
> To reproduce the breakage:
> 1. install libsasl2
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-16 22:53]:
>> > if-transition -- A Change in the Weather, an interactive short story
>> > [#260720]
>> > * Orphaned 327 days ago
>>
>> I cannot find this one on powerpc.
>
> It's in non-free.
>
>> > mor
Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Martin Michlmayr wrote on 16/06/2005 19:18:
>> findimagedupes -- Finds visually similar or duplicate images [#218699]
>> * Orphaned 590 days ago
>> * Package orphaned > 360 days ago.
>
> Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> ...
> trustees -- Advanced permission management system for Linux [#251189]
> orphaned 379 days ago, according to maintainer upstream dead, removal
> already suggested one year ago, very small install base
One more issue in favour of this is that Novell have released
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 22:13 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Perhaps this might be true for the initial Perl implementation, but:
>
> "[2001/03/03 10:05] Markus Schoder has contributed finddupes.cpp, GPL'ed
> source code for a C++ based version of my horribly slow compare routine. In
> his testing
* Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-16 22:53]:
> > if-transition -- A Change in the Weather, an interactive short story
> > [#260720]
> > * Orphaned 327 days ago
>
> I cannot find this one on powerpc.
It's in non-free.
> > moria -- A roguelike game with an infinite dungeon [#274472]
Martin Michlmayr wrote on 16/06/2005 19:18:
> findimagedupes -- Finds visually similar or duplicate images [#218699]
> * Orphaned 590 days ago
> * Package orphaned > 360 days ago.
Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a
pity to loose this since there is no compara
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
"[2002/02/06 23:55] PixiePlus[2] now supports similar image finding
using an algorithm based on mine, and for those unable to run a current
version of KDE, gqview[3] will also find your similar images, albeit
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On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 20:00 +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-16 20:53]:
> > Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a
> > pity to loose this since there is no comparable commandline tool
> > available and it works quite well.
>
In July 2003, I adopted the package gnat and several other Ada
packages. In November 2003, Matthias Klose sponsored my first few
packages into Debian unstable. After I adopted all the orphaned
packages I could, I created several new packages from sratch. Now,
all my packages have been released a
Daniel Stone wrote:
> libc6 added interfaces between 2.3.2 and 2.3.5 and made several other
> major changes, so all packages built with .5 depend on .5 or above,
> in case you use one of the new interfaces.
>
> A binary built with 2.3.2 can run with .5, but a binary built with .5
> can't necessari
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> Sounds like you've been a victim of a poorly implemented greylisting
> service.
Probably greylistd.
It does exactly what it says on the can - unfortunately, the combination
of the fact that the list of "known [EMAIL PROTECTED]" mail s
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-14 13:10]:
> Many of these are GNOME1.x-specific libraries, in turn used by GNOME1.x
> applications that as yet have no GNOME2 equivalent. (At the top of my
> personal list there is gnucash...)
Okay, given that GTK1 won't disappear immediately (and ma
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 01:00:17PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
>
> But I don't think it's good for our users for Debian to have rights
> that the user don't have.
We are only concerned with the rights that apply to the software, not the
name. The users have all of the same rights to the software
* Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-16 20:53]:
> > findimagedupes -- Finds visually similar or duplicate images [#218699]
>
> Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a
> pity to loose this since there is no comparable commandline tool
> available and it works qu
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* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:50:44PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:20:57AM -0300, Humberto Massa Guimarães wrote:
> > > > > Does the opposite make it worse? I think so.
>
> >
On 6/16/05, Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:54:08PM -0500, Ian Murdock wrote:
> > Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > libc6 added interfaces between 2.3.2 and 2.3.5 and made several other
> > > major changes, so all packages built with .5 depend on .5 or above,
> > > in c
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Chris Gorman]
> > + exec /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
> > /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: relocation error:
> > /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1: undefined symbol: _Xglobal_lock
>
> Try reinstalling libx11-6.
Done. It was one of th
El Jueves 16 Junio 2005 18:11, Russ Allbery escribió:
[snip]
> That being said, we absolutely should not allow the trademark issue to
> give MoFo any more of a veto on package changes than any other upstream
> would have. If we feel we need to make a change to improve the package
> for our users a
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:54:08PM -0500, Ian Murdock wrote:
> Daniel Stone wrote:
> > libc6 added interfaces between 2.3.2 and 2.3.5 and made several other
> > major changes, so all packages built with .5 depend on .5 or above,
> > in case you use one of the new interfaces.
> >
> > A binary built
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Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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We whitelisted about every client we received mail from the past year,
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Alexander Sack writes:
> In general the part of the MoFo brand we are talking about is the product
> name (e.g. firefox, thunderbird, sunbird). From what I can recall now, it
> is used in the help menu, the about box, the package-name and the window
> title bar.
I'm not convinced that any of these
* Simon Huggins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 01:03:52AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > * Simon Huggins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:07:16PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > > > Indeed the most pragmatic thing to do is to keep the name. But you
>
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've got experience with use of greylisting for a mail platform with
> over 1M accounts. Enabling greylisting for this platform reduced
> delivered spam with 80-90%. This is simply because most of the
> infected machines does not attempt a secon
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Le jeudi 16 juin 2005 à 01:03 -0400, Eric Dorland a écrit :
> > > The Mozilla Foundation have made many shows of good faith via Gervase in
> > > this long running debate which he has continued to follow despite the
> > > criticisms levelled at him/the
* Simon Huggins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:20:48PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > That there is such a hue and cry over rebranding Firefox in Debian
> > > indicates to me that it *is* a significant burden we would be (an
* Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Eric Dorland wrote:
> > * Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > All of MoFo trademarks that were not being used in a manner
> > > consistent with trademark law[2] would have to be expunged from
> > > the work,
> >
> > What
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 03:05:52PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jun 16, Paul TBBle Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And there there's hotplug-ng [1], a hotplug replacement in C, which I'm
> > looking forward to a packaging of, now that klibc's in the ITP list.
> You'd better not, because
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:09:06AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Christian Perrier
> | > Again, do not mess with cultures you do not understand.
> |
> | Do you have real examples?
> IRC. An example is the current irssi in Debian which doesn't do
> recoding between different locales. (And
Jeremie Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I got no luck lately and managed to make ssh-krb5 fail due to library
> linkage weirdness. It took me ages to figure out what was going on! (I
> learnt alot on the way, however.)
> To reproduce the breakage:
> 1. install libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimd
Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:20:48PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Second, the real problems with rebranding are not with the technical
>> work that has to happen, from the sound of it. They're with user
>> recognition and the ability of users to find the
Humberto Massa Guimarães wrote:
>>>What trademarks are you referring to? Already the Debian
>>>packages don't use any of the trademarked images and logos?
>>>
>>>
>>If we don't use any trademarked images, logos, or phrases, what
>>exactly are we talking about here?
>>
>>
>
>As I think t
Simon Huggins wrote:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 01:03:52AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Simon Huggins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Well actually to some degree they've already done this. Recently the
CAcert (www.cacert.org) project's root CA made it into our
ca-certificates package. However I can't
I got no luck lately and managed to make ssh-krb5 fail due to library
linkage weirdness. It took me ages to figure out what was going on!
(I learnt alot on the way, however.)
To reproduce the breakage:
1. install libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal, libnss-ldap and ssh-krb5
(something else linked
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now that we have released sarge, I would like to ask debian-admin
> and the Project Leader to consider seriously doing something to
> reduce the level of spam we have to receive, store, and filter in
> our @debian.org addresses.
>
> For example, we could
On Jun 16, Paul TBBle Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And there there's hotplug-ng [1], a hotplug replacement in C, which I'm
> looking forward to a packaging of, now that klibc's in the ITP list.
You'd better not, because I have already ITP'ed it a long time ago. :-)
--
ciao,
Marco
signa
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Enrico Zini dijo [Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:49:39PM +0200]:
I've been it_IT.UTF-8 for quite a while with no problems. And I also
get to be able to write the name of my girlfriend, which Latin1 cannot
encode, together with accented Italian words, which BIG5 cannot encode.
H
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 15:09 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Jeu 16 Juin 2005 14:33, Santiago Vila a écrit :
> > Now that we have released sarge, I would like to ask debian-admin and
> > the Project Leader to consider seriously doing something to reduce
> > the level of spam we have to receive, s
> > What trademarks are you referring to? Already the Debian
> > packages don't use any of the trademarked images and logos?
>
> If we don't use any trademarked images, logos, or phrases, what
> exactly are we talking about here?
As I think this is a very nice question, could Eric or any other
p
Le Jeu 16 Juin 2005 14:33, Santiago Vila a écrit :
> Now that we have released sarge, I would like to ask debian-admin and
> the Project Leader to consider seriously doing something to reduce
> the level of spam we have to receive, store, and filter in our
> @debian.org addresses.
>
> For example,
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 01:01:17AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> H... Silly me thought that Italian was the only Latin language
> which used no diacritics. Which kind of accents does it have?
Italian can have accents over vowels, some are read differently if they
are grave or acute:
à è é í
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