Re: Legal budget and Director-and-officer insurance related to packages with "adult" themes

2004-12-04 Thread Bruce Perens
Andrew Suffield wrote: Oh come on, they're at far greater risk from our overly-permissive approach to copyright and patent issues. The copyright and patent problems faced by Debian are issues that we have studied in depth. Indeed, working on that has taken up a good deal of my life for the past s

Re: Legal budget and Director-and-officer insurance related to packages with "adult" themes

2004-12-04 Thread Bruce Perens
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: If we just move them all to non-us, would that solve the problem? It might help. Of course this is not only a U.S. problem. Some of our developers live under religious law. I hear that there are places where you can get your hand cut off for certain law viola

Re: Legal budget and Director-and-officer insurance related to packages with "adult" themes

2004-12-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 02:33:44PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > There are a few people who are most likely to be prosecuted over legal > issues in Debian packages that have "adult" themes. They are the SPI > directors, and those affiliated with any registration or incorporation > of SPI or Debia

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
> > >>>As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the > > >>>most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most > > >>>contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is > > >>>likely to hurt the feelings of several women (probably not all, I > > >>>don't

Re: Legal budget and Director-and-officer insurance related to packages with "adult" themes

2004-12-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004, Bruce Perens wrote: > Perhaps it would be appropriate to establish a donation fund > specifically for packages with "adult" themes, so that those of us who If we just move them all to non-us, would that solve the problem? -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find t

Re: Questionable image process. Was: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

2004-12-04 Thread David Palmer
Bruce Perens wrote: David Weinehall wrote: The ITP contains a link to the source for the package. You *really* need to have a look at the pictures. All of your argumentation below about pron neatly goes *wooosh*. I'll take your word. However, we seem to be lacking some process here. I don't have

Questionable image process. Was: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

2004-12-04 Thread Bruce Perens
David Weinehall wrote: The ITP contains a link to the source for the package. You *really* need to have a look at the pictures. All of your argumentation below about pron neatly goes *wooosh*. I'll take your word. However, we seem to be lacking some process here. I don't have a guideline at hand

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

2004-12-04 Thread David Weinehall
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 02:12:19PM -0800, Martin Olsson wrote: > > I have not seen this image thus I do not if I would find it offensive or > not. Could someone please upload a .png of it somewhere and post the URL? The ITP contains a link to the source for the package. You *really* need to hav

Re: Bug#284219: please remove gnu-standards

2004-12-04 Thread John Hasler
Glenn Maynard writes: > gnu-standards is obviously unlikely to be relicensed, and can't be > rewritten Of course it could be rewritten (though a rewrite should be retitled). Standards are ideas, not expression. -- John Hasler

Re: Bug#284219: please remove gnu-standards

2004-12-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 04:12:35PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 09:34:20PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > I think it might be a good thing if you orphan this package before you > > ask for removal, especially as you (and we all) know that GFDL-docu is > > allowed in the up

Re: Finding an improved release process.

2004-12-04 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Steve Langasek [Sat, Dec 04 2004, 05:30:38AM]: > > From my point of view, we could have released Sarge one year after Woody > > with boot-floppies. The only thing needed was a bit more man power from > > the porters. Instead, most of the "core team" and the BFs porters > > stopped to w

Legal budget and Director-and-officer insurance related to packages with "adult" themes

2004-12-04 Thread Bruce Perens
There are a few people who are most likely to be prosecuted over legal issues in Debian packages that have "adult" themes. They are the SPI directors, and those affiliated with any registration or incorporation of SPI or Debian in countries other than the U.S. There is the potential for us to s

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-04 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Qui, 2004-12-02 Ãs 23:57 -0800, Erik Steffl escreveu: > >>>As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the > >>>most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most > >>>contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is > >>>likely to hurt the feelings o

Re: Bug#284219: please remove gnu-standards

2004-12-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Glenn Maynard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041204 22:25]: > 2004-004 is not "allow non-free documentation in main for Sarge; we > don't care"; it's "allow non-free documentation in main because we don't > have time before Sarge to deal with it all". In no way does it discourage > maintainers with the ti

Re: Bug#284219: please remove gnu-standards

2004-12-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think it might be a good thing if you orphan this package before you > ask for removal, especially as you (and we all) know that GFDL-docu is > allowed in the upcoming release of sarge. The rationale for that is that it's too much trouble for maintain

Re: debconf temlate encoding

2004-12-04 Thread Erik Schanze
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Erik Schanze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > (CC'ing -i18n) > Please set me on CC in this list. > > > Are we moving to UTF-8 for sarge? > > > > > AFAIK most parts (especially deconf) are UTF-8 ready, so lets do this > > also

Re: Bug#284219: please remove gnu-standards

2004-12-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 09:34:20PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Please remove the gnu-standards package (that I maintain). Its > > use of the GNU FDL violates Debian's DFSG, so it cannot remain in > > the distribution. > > I think it might be a good thing if you orphan this package before you

Re: debconf template encoding

2004-12-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 06:54:34PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: [...] > More generally speaking, the package maintainers should *not* mess up > with PO files encoding unless they deeply know what they're doing. Even if they know what they are doing, there is no reason to change PO files encodin

Re: Bug#284219: please remove gnu-standards

2004-12-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ben Pfaff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041204 18:25]: > Package: ftp.debian.org > Version: 2004-12-04 > > Please remove the gnu-standards package (that I maintain). Its > use of the GNU FDL violates Debian's DFSG, so it cannot remain in > the distribution. I think it might be a good thing if you orpha

Re: Simplicity Pattern Co. AutoReply

2004-12-04 Thread Win Mix
Simplicity Crafts doll clothes...5420...What width Valcro is used down the back closure..And how far does it go...All the way to the hem or just part way?  I've read and reread the instructions and this is not mentioned. Thank you.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: debconf temlate encoding

2004-12-04 Thread Christian Perrier
(CC'ing -i18n) > > Are we moving to UTF-8 for sarge? > > > AFAIK most parts (especially deconf) are UTF-8 ready, so lets do this > also for debconf templates. Yes. > > > Is there any guideline for which encoding to use for po files for > > debconf. > > > I have read on a Debian web-site (

Re: OT: appealing to the puritan interest [was Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor]

2004-12-04 Thread Clint Adams
> It's "prurient", not "puritan". > > "dict prurient" will explain. Thank you for misinterpreting the wordplay. Please take this discussion to another mailing list or end it completely. These arguments have been rehashed within Debian since what I believe to be its original inception 7 years ag

Re: Hot-Babe non-controversial images

2004-12-04 Thread Roland Mas
Frederik Schueler, 2004-12-04 13:50:08 +0100 : > Hello, > > On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:52:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> An earlier suggestion to show a lamb in various states of shear, >> and then roasted at 100% was also good. > > As a vegeterian I have to strongly object on this. ;-) I ha

Re: Finding an improved release process.

2004-12-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Cesar Martinez Izquierdo dijo [Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 01:25:49PM +0100]: > Yes, we have more packages now, but we also have more developers to deal with > them. And we always have a big pool of people that wish to become DD, so man > power is not the problem, in my opinion. Remember that more peop

Re: debconf temlate encoding

2004-12-04 Thread Erik Schanze
Hi Osamu! Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 07:27:31PM +0200, Erik Schanze wrote: > > Package: ipmasq > > Severity: wishlist > > tags: l10n, patch > > Thanks but I have question. > > "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" > -"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15\n" > +"Content-T

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-04 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 05:49:28AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I also suggested using DebTags as the categorizing mechanism for > > that. > Maybe the 2 could be used in concert? Uhm... I would like to keep subjective tags outside of the central debtags repository, delegating such categorization

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-04 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 10:48:45AM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > > If someone wants to take care of keeping the admin::backup tag up to > > date, please send me a note. > hdup? It was already tagged, it seems. However, its only tag is admin::backup at the moment. If you want to impr

Re: Finding an improved release process.

2004-12-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:52:08PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > From my point of view, we could have released Sarge one year after Woody > with boot-floppies. The only thing needed was a bit more man power from > the porters. Instead, most of the "core team" and the BFs porters > stopped to work on

Re: Hot-Babe non-controversial images

2004-12-04 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:52:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > An earlier suggestion to show a lamb in various states of shear, > and then roasted at 100% was also good. As a vegeterian I have to strongly object on this. ;-) Greetings Frederik Schueler -- ENOSIG pgpaDfgZWVYt5.pgp Desc

Bug#284189: ITP: xul-runner -- XUL/XPCOM application runner

2004-12-04 Thread Mike Hommey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: xul-runner Version : 0.0.0 Upstream Author : The Mozilla Project * URL : http://www.mozilla.org/ * License : GPL/LGPL/MPL Description : XUL/XPCOM application runner The goal of the XUL Runner application i

Re: OT: appealing to the puritan interest [was Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor]

2004-12-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 15:20 -0500, Clint Adams wrote: It's "prurient", not "puritan". "dict prurient" will explain. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. "I for one welcome our cross-

Bug#284187: ITP/RFS: wordpress-pg -- a semantic personal publishing platform - postgresql version

2004-12-04 Thread Toni Timonen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: wordpress-pg Version : 1.2.1-1.0 Upstream Author : Keenan Tims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://wordpress-pg.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : a semantic personal publishing platform - postgre

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 10:48 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:31:43 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:32:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:03:59 -0600, John Goerzen > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 04.12.2004, 05:49 -0600 schrieb Ron Johnson: > > That might have been me. > It was Cesar Martinez Izquierdo. Ok, so it was _also_ me :-) > > I also suggested using DebTags as the > > categorizing mechanism for that. > > Maybe the 2 could be used i

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 12:07 +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Freitag, den 03.12.2004, 22:55 -0600 schrieb Ron Johnson: > > On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 00:55 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > > On Thursday 02 December 2004 19:21, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We could have ftp.deb

Re: Bug#282688: RFP: autoconf-doc -- Documentation for autoconf, automatic configure script builder

2004-12-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ben Pfaff: > Sorry, I don't maintain non-free packages. In this case, please file an ITO bug for gnu-standards.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 03.12.2004, 22:55 -0600 schrieb Ron Johnson: > On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 00:55 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Thursday 02 December 2004 19:21, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We could have ftp.debian.XX (where XX is the country code) be a cname > > pointing > > to

Re: Finding an improved release process.

2004-12-04 Thread Eduard Bloch
Moin Thiemo! Thiemo Seufer schrieb am Montag, den 29. November 2004: > > > Well, if people had been willing to maintain it, yes. But there didn't > > > seem to be any significant interest in doing so. > > > > On the other hand, it worked already. > > Yes, it worked once upon a time. Without 2.6

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-04 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 03:27:26PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > There were quite many backup programs without the admin::backup tag. > Now admin::backup counts 61 packages: good! > > If someone wants to take care of keeping the admin::backup tag up to > date, please send me a note. hdup? -- Fran