Hi, Michael Banck wrote:
>> - sign your response (!)
>
> He did.
Oops, sorry, my mistake. :-(
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On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 09:30:46AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Yes, and funnily enough, uploads to -p-u have to be processed by the
> > release manager, either Joey for stable, or me for testing. How's the
> > phrase go? "You suggest distributing the workload, and your concrete
> > suggestions
Hi folks,
I would like to test the new voting scripts, complete with
signed acks. I'll be running this vote over on my home machine,
pending the resolution of the fact that devotee does not run on
potato (vote.d.o runs potato). This vote would also be a good test
of the super majority
On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 12:10:38AM +0200, Juan Manuel García Molina wrote:
> Package: wnpp
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> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: swftools
Last time I checked this package, it contained MP3 encoding code from
LAME - which cannot be included in Deb
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Hi folks,
We have six seconds (well, five people on public mailing
lists) for the GR labelled: "Constitutional amendment:
Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying". It would not hurt to get a
few more sponsors for this GR.
=
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 05:35:01PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> It would be a start and I think that's what is needed. It needs to be
> started by someone, and I contend *anyone* can start it, before it will
> be possible to do it in full.
The thing is: The autobuilders for testing-security are
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> You seem to be missing something:
>
> I'm not the least bit interested in running a testing-security
> repository outside of Debian. Furthermore, I've neither the skill, nor the
> time to contribute to something like this integrated to Debian. I've
> me
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 04:09:28PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I wouldn't feel like setting up a repository for testing that only
> > clueless people-who-put-every-apt-line-they-see-in-their-sources-list[0]
> > would use.
>
> Others would see what y
El día 16 may 2003, Matthias Urlichs escribía:
> Hi,
> >> Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying:
> >> __
> >
> > I second this resolution.
>
> The accepted procedure seems to be to
> - quote the full
Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> *prompt* echo ö§ | recode latin1..ascii
>> "oSS
>> *prompt* echo ö§ | iconv -f latin1 -t
>> ascii//TRANSLIT ; echo $?
>> oe?
>> --
>> »oe« is much better than »"o« and »SS« is no usable replacement
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:06:23PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> The accepted procedure seems to be to
> - sign your response (!)
He did.
Michael
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* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I wouldn't feel like setting up a repository for testing that only
> clueless people-who-put-every-apt-line-they-see-in-their-sources-list[0]
> would use.
Others would see what you had done and you could post patches to the BTS
with the fixes in them, e
Hi,
>> Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying:
>> __
>
> I second this resolution.
The accepted procedure seems to be to
- quote the full resolution
- sign your response (!)
- send the reply to debian
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> On Friday 16 May 2003 11:45 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> > > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less
> > > > than 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically also the m
On Friday 16 May 2003 12:13 pm, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> On Friday 16 May 2003 11:45 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> > > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less
> > > > than 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> *prompt* echo ö§ | recode latin1..ascii
> "oSS
> *prompt* echo ö§ | iconv -f latin1 -t
> ascii//TRANSLIT ; echo $?
> oe?
> --
> »oe« is much better than »"o« and »SS« is no usable replacement for
> »§« (I do not think there is one), it wou
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:49:28PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > You seem to fail to understand that people don't pull security updates
> > from Joe-Random-NM-or-not's server. Of course, one can setup a
> > repository with testing-security-updates. Whe
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Huh? How could a DD create a repository somebody else cannot? The only
> place that would be is people.debian.org/~, right? That'll be
> quite a bad place for security updates because I think one still cannot
> pin different repositories at p.d.o to
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There are many questions and comments about how the security team, RM and
others handle security bugs. Some change is desired by at least several
people. I've already started trying to help clean up security bugs. I
won't even bother volunteering for the security team until I've had my
identity ver
On Friday 16 May 2003 11:45 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less
> > > than 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically also the minimal
> > > installation has to be tight.. then r
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:39:20PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:41:47PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200305/msg5.html
I stand corrected.
> > If a member of the sec-team says "Yes, we are act
> ==
>
> PROPOSAL
> __
>
> Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying:
> ___
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> You seem to fail to understand that people don't pull security updates
> from Joe-Random-NM-or-not's server. Of course, one can setup a
> repository with testing-security-updates. Whether it would (or should)
> actually be used is another matter.
People
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less than
> > 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically also the minimal
> > installation has to be tight.. then rm doc and man and after install the
> > minimum sets of pkgs to provi
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:39:20PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > If a member of the sec-team says "Yes, we are actively trying to
> > find
> > new members, but finding competent and responsive people who have
> > the
> > time and will to help is very difficult", then I'm happy and shut
> > up.
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On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 12:38:39PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:06:57AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > > People are only going to bitch if you make it look like an
> > > official part of Debian when it isn't, and rightly so
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:41:47PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:06:25PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > The problem is finding competent volunteers to do the work.
>
> I must have missed that post to debian-devel-announce where the security
> guys call for respo
On Friday 16 May 2003 01:07 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > I agree with Wouter. For me would be an issue having the base system
> > > bigger than it is now. Specially preparing very small "black box" where
> > > i need to save as much space as i c
> > It's strange, because on my i386 system
> > objdump -T /usr/lib/libgdk-X11-2.0.so gives
> >
> > 0002e71c gDF .text 0049 Base_gdk_display_x11_get_type
> > 00045ebc gDF .text 014c Base_gdk_windowing_window_init
> > 0005017c gDF .text 0106 Base
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:06:57AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > People are only going to bitch if you make it look like an
> > official part of Debian when it isn't, and rightly so.
>
> Why the hell do you think this should not be an official part of
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why not kick upstream into releasing 2.7.1 with proper soname bump to
> libsensors2 (Make sure they are aware they screwed up...). Then upload
> libsensors2, there are only 8 sources depending on libsensors1 now so
> it wouldn't be a big deal to rebuild t
Hi, John Darrington wrote:
> Given a text file, it will attempt to guess the natural language in
> which it was written. I'm sure it would be fairly simple to modify it to
> guess the charset. If you point me to a reasonably large set of example
> files, I'll see what I can do.
You could use you
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:06:57AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> People are only going to bitch if you make it look like an
> official part of Debian when it isn't, and rightly so.
Why the hell do you think this should not be an official part of debian
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:31:59AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
>
> Unfortunately 0xa0 is the no-break space which is very common in
> French typography. One could argue that Tollef was not aware of this
> fact, but the question is: why does he believe that he can change this
> localized file when
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* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Look. People already complained about mentors.debian.net being run by
> non-DDs. Do you think 'security.debian.net', being run by non-DDs, would
> get any support at all?
It shouldn't and wouldn't need to be security.debian.net. It can be
'mytestingupd
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:33:12AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 09:00:02PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > Something related to #189750, perhaps?
> >
> > --
> > Looks like excitement by repetition!
>
> It is very unlikely that it is related to 189750, but it could be
> som
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:52:15PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> So, what have we got here?
>
> Three theses:
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:13:39PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> 1.
> > Well, the documentation says that there is no security for testing,
>
> 2.
> > but it does not say that the
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:44:28PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:13:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > The only thing really needed here is the RM's blessing, and an
> > announcement.
>
> I have no idea how you might think this announcement should look like.
> Could you
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:59:48PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:28:48PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Outstanding DSA's are not the matter at hand;
>
> Sure they are: if you're complaining that the security team already has
> too much work to do, then it's outstand
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 08:52:26AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Matthias Urlichs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Hi, Stephen Frost wrote:
> >
> > >> (a) Before I do something like that, I'd need to be accepted as DD.
> > >
> > > False statement.
> >
> > So non-DDs can get accounts on Debian ma
So, what have we got here?
Three theses:
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:13:39PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
1.
> Well, the documentation says that there is no security for testing,
2.
> but it does not say that the security of unstable is higher than the
> one of testing.
OK, so testing has "no se
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:13:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> The only thing really needed here is the RM's blessing, and an
> announcement.
I have no idea how you might think this announcement should look like.
Could you perhaps at least give a rough outline of it?
Thanks.
Michael
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On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:06:25PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> The problem is finding competent volunteers to do the work.
I must have missed that post to debian-devel-announce where the security
guys call for responsible people to get on the team then.
I mean, nothing wrong with tryin
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W liście z pią, 16-05-2003, godz. 13:05, Michał Politowski pisze:
> You obviously haven't read man mailcap.order?
I've read, when you first time told me.
It's just a step to provide that usability like my script.
Please, look at this two opions objectively. Forget, that one of them is
already imp
On Thu, 15 May 2003 21:39:54 +0100, Robert McQueen wrote:
> Just a brief note to draw people's attention to the following RFAs
> I filed a few days ago:
> #193116 ap-utils -- Access Point SNMP Utils for Linux
> #193117 igal -- online image gallery generator
> #193118 tcpflow -- TCP flow recorder
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 12:51:40PM +0200, Celso González wrote:
> I will like to adopt ap-utils, i??m using the 1.1 package but i have
> a few problem that is resolved in the current 1.3 version
>
> If you think I could to the job i will send the request to wnpp.
>
> Best regards
Fine by me. As
TSUCHIYA Masatoshi wrote:
It is true that the 2.09 compatibility mode works finely in almost
cases. However, LaTeX-2.09 itself still be needed for style files
that use internal macros of LaTeX-2.09. The style file of my
bachelor's thesis is an example of such style files, and there are a
fair num
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 08:48:46AM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> I'd take tcpflow if it's not already been claimed, it nicely
> comliments dsniff which I already have.
>
> Steve
It's yours.
Regards,
Rob
>> On Fri, 16 May 2003 12:55:54 +0200
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Agustin Martin Domingo) said as follows:
>If your documents starts with a '\documentstyle{your_style}' call
>instead of a '\documentclass' one the 209 compatibility mode should
>automatically be activated. What kind of problems are you
>e
On Fri 16 May 2003, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>
> I didn't check yet whether he really made that upload. But yeah, the
> mrtg bug is certainly a good reason to contact him again... Feel
I wrote to him (again) on the 13th about his, still zero response.
> free to NMU in the meantime.
Done, mrtg
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 12:36:38PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 12:15:48PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Yes, but before someone steps for and does this, a consensus need to be
> > found on what to do, the RM at least has to green-light it, and it
> > should be announced o
On Fri, 16 May 2003 12:05:17 +0200, mcINEK wrote:
> Next is replacement for update-mime script to use 'new' format. It
> generates full compatible mailcap file, but inserts just one application
> (x and non x) for each mime type.
You obviously haven't read man mailcap.order?
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On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 09:39:54PM +0100, Robert McQueen wrote:
> Just a brief note to draw people's attention to the following RFAs
> I filed a few days ago:
> #193116 ap-utils -- Access Point SNMP Utils for Linux
> #193117 igal -- online image gallery generator
> #193118 tcpflow -- TCP flow re
TSUCHIYA Masatoshi wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2003 10:08:37 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fielder George Dowding) said as follows:
I use LaTeX2e and friends (almost daily).
I know that LaTeX-2.09 is obsolete, however I need it to process
ancient TeX sources without modification.
If your documents starts wi
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 09:11:27AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Yes, and funnily enough, uploads to -p-u have to be processed by the
> > release manager, either Joey for stable, or me for testing.
> This may be a stupid question, but why is there a "have to" here (w
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 12:15:48PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> Yes, but before someone steps for and does this, a consensus need to be
> found on what to do, the RM at least has to green-light it, and it
> should be announced on debian-devel-announce so all the maintainer are
> aware of it and the
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 12:01:54PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> [Removed debian-private from Cc-List, there is *no* need to duplicate
> the thread there]
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 07:58:44AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > 2) a way for people for which stable is too outdated to run more
> >
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 05:45:21AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 09:15:21PM -0500, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >Please don't bother listening to or arguing with Michael on this,
> >he's wrong, but likes to keep repeating his opinion as though it's
> >gospel whenever this comes up
I'm attaching two scripts. One just converts 'old'
/usr/lib/mime/packages/ directory to 'new' one. Why I'll explain later.
Next is replacement for update-mime script to use 'new' format. It
generates full compatible mailcap file, but inserts just one application
(x and non x) for each mime type. I
[Removed debian-private from Cc-List, there is *no* need to duplicate
the thread there]
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 07:58:44AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> 2) a way for people for which stable is too outdated to run more
> advanced software, without suffering from the breakages of unstable.
>
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 09:15:21PM -0500, Anthony Towns wrote:
Please don't bother listening to or arguing with Michael on this,
he's wrong, but likes to keep repeating his opinion as though it's
gospel whenever this comes up anyway.
aj likes to say I'm wrong, but hasn't fixed the problems to make
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:47:37PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 03:40:57PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:25:56PM +0100, Thom May wrote:
> > > * Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> > > > It has already been told more than once: in Fren
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I agree with Wouter. For me would be an issue having the base system
> > bigger than it is now. Specially preparing very small "black box" where i
> > need to save as much space as i can even during the installation phase.
>
> Can't you basically just '
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:24:14AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should
> be shipped along with original man pages or within manpages-xx packages.
> Unfortunately this leads to conflicts when a translation is first
> shipped by t
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 09:39:54PM +0100, Robert McQueen wrote:
> Just a brief note to draw people's attention to the following RFAs
> I filed a few days ago:
> #193116 ap-utils -- Access Point SNMP Utils for Linux
> #193117 igal -- online image gallery generator
> #193118 tcpflow -- TCP flow re
Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Finding a cure is not a problem: we know what the cure is; do
> the same thing the security team does for stable.
A few other cures have been advocated. I'll not repeat them here.
As in medicine, figuring out what the RIGHT cure is is the problem.
--
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On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 07:09:00AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
[restored attribution you snipped ...]
> > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 05:48:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > > When grabbing old mails, I found an answer from a developer who told
Hi, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Yes, and funnily enough, uploads to -p-u have to be processed by the
> release manager, either Joey for stable, or me for testing.
This may be a stupid question, but why is there a "have to" here (we're
not in freeze mode!), and would you be OK with sharing this part of
Hi, Anthony Towns wrote:
> If someone
> would like to volunteer whose not in with the security team, or a
> release assistant, please talk to herr DPL about doing so, rather than
> me.
[ patiently waiting for AM approval ]
Will do.
And, thanks for the info. Whether to further automate this (i.e
Why not kick upstream into releasing 2.7.1 with proper soname bump to
libsensors2 (Make sure they are aware they screwed up...). Then upload
libsensors2, there are only 8 sources depending on libsensors1 now so
it wouldn't be a big deal to rebuild those few in any case.
Chris
sources depending on
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 09:00:02PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Something related to #189750, perhaps?
>
> --
> Looks like excitement by repetition!
It is very unlikely that it is related to 189750, but it could be
something related to how fontconfig chooses fonts. For example the
medium font se
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 07:30:36PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 07:07:16AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> >But we don't advertize this, so it is natural that people make the
> >mistake and use testing instead of unstable.
>
> People say this all the time. Then other people go
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:40:10AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
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>> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:06:47AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>> > release
>> > (Or "released version", "baseline") A version of
>> > a piece of software which has been m
On Thu, 15 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > When grabbing old mails, I found an answer from a developer who told me
> > that his package is part of base and thus he wants to keep it small.
> > Is this indeed an important issue?
>
> I'd say yes; but those packages will not usually be uninstalle
On Thu, 15 May 2003, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Em Tue, 13 May 2003 06:57:45 +0200 (CEST), Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>
> > > Now Apache maintainers are telling us that they chose another layout
> > > and we are bound to it.
> >
> > Yes because the official maintain
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