On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 04:09:28PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I wouldn't feel like setting up a repository for testing that only > > clueless people-who-put-every-apt-line-they-see-in-their-sources-list[0] > > would use. > > Others would see what you had done and you could post patches to the BTS > with the fixes in them, etc.
You seem to be missing something: I'm not the least bit interested in running a testing-security repository outside of Debian. Furthermore, I've neither the skill, nor the time to contribute to something like this integrated to Debian. I've merely pointed out that such a repository, maintained by a NM outside of Debian, would not be *anywhere* near an acceptable solution, because of the reasons I put forth in this thread. You're saying: "You want security for testing? Do it yourself!" I'm saying: "Sure, people could do it for themselves, but how would that benefit Debian as a whole?" > > 1. See above > > 2. I don't have the time > > 3. I'm not running testing > > Ah, so, you don't have the time. That would be the reason testing > hasn't got security updates- not enough skilled people with the time to > actually *do* it. Exactly. > People with the time and skills, DD or not, could provide updates and > eventually I think these people and updates would be incorporated into > Debian in a move where Debian would then start officially supporting > testing. Like I said, if people like dark, Kamion, vorlon, etc would go forth and started a testing-security initiative, I'd be thrilled by this. If <you-know-who> or somebody unknown to the project would come along, people would say: "So what?" and go away. > I don't believe Debian should ever do it piecemeal or partially. If > it's going to be done then it needs to be done completely and we must > have enough people to do it before we announce that we will. Exactly. > > I must be totally missing something. Is one getting the s3kr1t > > "create-a-repository-key" when you are becoming a DD? Where would these > > repositories be located? Nobody told me so! > > > To create a respository you just need a couple debs and website and the > tools to create the Packages files, ie: dpkg-scanpackages. Aha. And what exactly buys you being a DD in this regard? That's the implementation detail I was talking about earlier. You said repositories would be easier setup if one was a DD, if I'm not completely mistaken? Michael -- <azathoth> why can't alyssa milano live next door to me, be lonely and need the satisfaction and fullfillment that only a 20 year old computer programmer can provide... * azathoth shakes his fist at god and goes back to his debugging