Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-31 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 1 September 2015 at 02:14, Yue Liu wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2015 2:50 AM, "Dmitry Kazakov" wrote: > > > > > >>> 1) I'm ok with forking Krita repository. We already depend from quite > few libraries from calligra libs. That is mostly, KoCanvasBase, > KoDocumentBase, flake and pigment.From all fou

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-31 Thread Yue Liu
On Aug 31, 2015 2:50 AM, "Dmitry Kazakov" wrote: > > >>> 1) I'm ok with forking Krita repository. We already depend from quite few libraries from calligra libs. That is mostly, KoCanvasBase, KoDocumentBase, flake and pigment.From all four only pigment looks >>> reusable enough for me to have a sep

Re: Why I love(d) Krita to be part of Calligra (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-31 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
On Monday 31 August 2015 03:46:23 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > Am Sonntag, 30. August 2015, 20:36:06 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > > Long mail :-) Sven already said a lot of what I wanted to say. The thing > > is, with KOffice 2.0, we actually got further along the road to making > > fine-grained

Re: Why I love(d) Krita to be part of Calligra (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-31 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Am Montag, 31. August 2015, 12:19:32 schrieb Cyrille Berger: > On Sunday 30 August 2015 17:30:22 Sven Langkamp wrote: > > We started out offering endless choise for the users and gave them > > everything. But at some point it became clear that in many cases it was > > just overkill. We spend a huge

Re: Why I love(d) Krita to be part of Calligra (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-31 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Sunday 30 August 2015 17:30:22 Sven Langkamp wrote: > We started out offering endless choise for the users and gave them > everything. But at some point it became clear that in many cases it was > just overkill. We spend a huge amout of time to fix things like bugs that > showed up in Krita when

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-31 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Monday 31 August 2015 12:50:12 Dmitry Kazakov wrote: > > The repo size is one reason I'm actually considering to drop all > > history. Create a fresh new repo with cleaned-up code only and start > > again from commit 0. I know we check history a lot, but that history is > > the history of Krita

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-31 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Dmitry Kazakov wrote: 1) I'm ok with forking Krita repository. We already depend from quite few libraries from calligra libs. That is mostly, KoCanvasBase, KoDocumentBase, flake and pigment.From all four only pigment looks reusable enou

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-31 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Dmitry Kazakov wrote: Hi, all! Just my two cents: 1) I'm ok with forking Krita repository. We already depend from quite few libraries from calligra libs. That is mostly, KoCanvasBase, KoDocumentBase, flake and pigment.From all four only pigment looks reusable enough for

Re: Why I love(d) Krita to be part of Calligra (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-30 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Am Sonntag, 30. August 2015, 20:36:06 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > Long mail :-) Sven already said a lot of what I wanted to say. The thing > is, with KOffice 2.0, we actually got further along the road to making > fine-grained composite document possible. We got further than Apple, > IBM or Microsof

Re: Why I love(d) Krita to be part of Calligra (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-30 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
Long mail :-) Sven already said a lot of what I wanted to say. The thing is, with KOffice 2.0, we actually got further along the road to making fine-grained composite document possible. We got further than Apple, IBM or Microsoft with projects like Taligent, Opendocs or OLE. Sure, we made architec

Re: Why I love(d) Krita to be part of Calligra (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-30 Thread Sven Langkamp
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > > For Krita, and I hate to say this, it probably makes sense to fork our > > shared libraries. The office-apps maintainers can then strip out all the > > krita-s

Re: Schedule to switch back to master for feature development (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-29 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 27 August 2015 at 16:27, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: >> I'm not really happy writing this mail... But anyway, back to practical >> issues. I'd like to start taking steps next week already. >> >> * split up our git repo whic

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-29 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
eleases etc then it still might be better to do the spltting ( but is that >> a guarantee things will be released or will krita/kexi eventually split up >> or do their own releases anyway. In which case Calligra will be split and no >> one to do the even larger release process. >

Re: Schedule to switch back to master for feature development (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-29 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Thursday 27 August 2015 16:27:21 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > I fear splitting git repos, unless done brutally, will take some time to be > well prepared (and also needs an agreement who to do it of all involved). > So hoping to do that already next week might be ambitious Also, lets not f

Why I love(d) Krita to be part of Calligra (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-29 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > For Krita, and I hate to say this, it probably makes sense to fork our > shared libraries. The office-apps maintainers can then strip out all the > krita-specific stuff, and for Krita, we can strip out the stuff that only > makes s

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-29 Thread Tomas Mecir
amilla Boemann > > -Original Message- > From: calligra-devel [mailto:calligra-devel-boun...@kde.org] On Behalf Of > Boudewijn Rempt > Sent: 29. august 2015 09:38 > To: Calligra Suite developers and users mailing list < > calligra-devel@kde.org> > Subject: Re: Af

RE: After 2.9.7

2015-08-29 Thread Camilla Boemann
can only hope splitting libs will not produce the same fate Best regards Camilla Boemann -Original Message- From: calligra-devel [mailto:calligra-devel-boun...@kde.org] On Behalf Of Boudewijn Rempt Sent: 29. august 2015 09:38 To: Calligra Suite developers and users mailing list Subject

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-29 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015, Cyrille Berger wrote: On Friday 28 August 2015 15:43:12 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: Well, we started the discussion with the idea that making separate repos for the libraries and applications was going to be useful. That rather soon turned into a discussion of the problems we ha

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-28 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Friday 28 August 2015 15:43:12 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > Well, we started the discussion with the idea that making separate repos > for the libraries and applications was going to be useful. That rather > soon turned into a discussion of the problems we have making our libraries > fit for purpose

Re: Schedule to switch back to master for feature development (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-28 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Am Freitag, 28. August 2015, 15:48:39 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > > In the meantime for everyone I would propose to turn Boud's other proposal > > about turning frameworks into master and open it back for development in > > this schedule: > > >

Re: Schedule to switch back to master for feature development (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-28 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: I fear splitting git repos, unless done brutally, will take some time to be well prepared (and also needs an agreement who to do it of all involved). So hoping to do that already next week might be ambitious :) Well, sure. But postponing it

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-28 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Cyrille Berger wrote: On 2015-08-27 09:57, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: For Krita, and I hate to say this, it probably makes sense to fork our shared libraries. The office-apps maintainers can then strip out all the krita-specific stuff, and for Krita, we can strip out the stuff

Re: After 2.9.7

2015-08-28 Thread Cyrille Berger
On 2015-08-27 09:57, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: For Krita, and I hate to say this, it probably makes sense to fork our shared libraries. The office-apps maintainers can then strip out all the krita-specific stuff, and for Krita, we can strip out the stuff that only makes sense for office applicati

Re: Let's use 3.0 only for next real release (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-27 Thread C. Boemann
+ 1 On Thursday 27 August 2015 14:22:19 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > > I think that the frameworks branch is now ready to be called 3.0. It's > > obviously not ready to release to end users, but we should make it the

Schedule to switch back to master for feature development (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-27 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > I'm not really happy writing this mail... But anyway, back to practical > issues. I'd like to start taking steps next week already. > > * split up our git repo whichever we we like > * ask sysadmin to put our repos up > * update a

Re: Let's use 3.0 only for next real release (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-27 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 14:27:17 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > >> I think that the frameworks branch is now ready to be called 3.0. It's > >> obviously not

Re: Let's use 3.0 only for next real release (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-27 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: I think that the frameworks branch is now ready to be called 3.0. It's obviously not ready to release to end users, but we should make it the new master. But let's call it

Let's use 3.0 only for next real release (was: Re: After 2.9.7)

2015-08-27 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 09:57:32 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt: > I think that the frameworks branch is now ready to be called 3.0. It's > obviously not ready to release to end users, but we should make it the > new master. But let's call it the frameworks branch for now. +1 for making fram

After 2.9.7

2015-08-27 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
Hi, We had a long discussion on #calligra yesterday, but I don't know whether we came to any conclusion... There are a bunch of things we have to consider before moving on after 2.9.7. I think that the frameworks branch is now ready to be called 3.0. It's obviously not ready to rele