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Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:41:23 +0100, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 22 December 2011 15:13, Adam C. wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:04:28 +0100, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 22 December 2011 12:51, Adam C. wrote: to me the design looks a little bit like hastily cobbled together. the elements a

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On 22 December 2011 12:51, Adam C. wrote: > of course also i am not a designer, but we had some lessons in university on > this topic, so i tried to quickly stick something together. > http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/22/calligrahp__.png Just compared to [1] and now I see. The area of your version is

Calligra website - how to handle news?

Continuing the topic (I'll be rather silent tomorrow and until Monday, you deserve that...): How to present the news? From KDE releases we inherited the habit of static announcements and so often we end up with copying old content (even with mistakes). I thought how to address this and in one go a

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On Thursday, December 22, 2011 22:04:43 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Thursday 22 December 2011, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > > > I and Stephanie are working on a new tour now. If we have time we will > > > also look at the individual application pages and make them more > > > likeable. > > >

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On 22 December 2011 22:04, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features > > And we also can see the pattern: catch title/paragraph/screenshot. good one, good content, they use the zoomed screenshots technique I mentioned (http://kexi-project.org/screenshots.html) They hav

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On 22 December 2011 21:41, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >>> nice too, but I also see misalignment here and these 3 levels of >>> navigation... >> >> >> can you point? > > Screenshots on the banner are randomly placed. > Even more important these are all of various sizes (creative chaos?) > so because

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On 22 December 2011 21:52, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Thursday 22 December 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> We all have the same idea regarding what to show. But the execution >> differs. FOr each of the desktop/mobile phone/tablet/embedded it is >> not possible to show even general idea on

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > > I and Stephanie are working on a new tour now. If we have time we will > > also look at the individual application pages and make them more > > likeable. > > > > My problem is that I am the opposite of a graphics designer. We need > >

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Just using symbols (as in my desktop/tablet/... buttons) if symbols > are enough, do not clutter. This is like in marketing - using symbolic > sentences like 'free' instead of geeky open source/libre one is able > to deliver the message to the

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > We all have the same idea regarding what to show. But the execution > differs. FOr each of the desktop/mobile phone/tablet/embedded it is > not possible to show even general idea on ~900-px-width-banner. The > screenshots are small and the tex

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On 22 December 2011 15:13, Adam C. wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:04:28 +0100, Jaroslaw Staniek > wrote: > >> On 22 December 2011 12:51, Adam C. wrote: >>> >>> to me the design looks a little bit like hastily cobbled together. the >>> elements are not aligned, there is no contrast and the diffe

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On 22 December 2011 17:21, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Thursday 22 December 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: >> On Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:35:53 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: >> > I also seriously doubt the front page need an overhaul, yes a new layout >> > for the bottom part is needed (and alm

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On 22 December 2011 17:47, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Thursday 22 December 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: >> With due respect, I think you are totally wrong here.  It never pays off >> in  marketing to be humble.  Really, what do you hope to achieve (or avoid >> for that matter) by being humble? >

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > On Thursday, December 22, 2011 17:47:54 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > > You can make all the fun you want of LibreOffice attempt to port to > > Android, but if you go outside of the Calligra community, people perceive > > us as the people who have

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday, December 22, 2011 17:47:54 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Thursday 22 December 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > > With due respect, I think you are totally wrong here. It never pays off > > in marketing to be humble. Really, what do you hope to achieve (or > > avoid for that matter) by

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday 22 December 2011 Dec, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > By being humble, I am hopping to avoid damaging the Calligra brand to the > extend the KOffice brand had been. I really do agree: we need to be so careful now. KOffice is forgotten, we've got that most precious of all things, a fres

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > On 22 December 2011 11:35, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > In order to proceed with the iWork-like changes on the web pages at > least for one or two apps and the engine I need two main things: 1. a > feeling I do not waste time on re-entering/

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > With due respect, I think you are totally wrong here. It never pays off > in marketing to be humble. Really, what do you hope to achieve (or avoid > for that matter) by being humble? It also never pay off to brag. And I want to avoid Calligra to

Re: Help regarding project

On 12/22/2011 09:44 AM, Panks wrote: Very great. Lot of thanks for sharing your progress. For poppler you may like to have a look at http://people.freedesktop.org/~aacid/docs/qt4/ and for implementations using it http:/

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > On Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:35:53 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > > I also seriously doubt the front page need an overhaul, yes a new layout > > for the bottom part is needed (and almost done as seen in > > http://www.calligra.org/homebeta/, an

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

A bit further down in the paragraph, it is stated that the RC will be delayed and there is likely going to be a fifth beta. Well, since we just announced the fifth beta, I guess we are talking about a very very strong likelihood ;) Pierre On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Cyrille Berger Skott wro

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:04:28 +0100, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 22 December 2011 12:51, Adam C. wrote: to me the design looks a little bit like hastily cobbled together. the elements are not aligned, there is no contrast and the different font types are fighting each other. Thanks for t

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:33:19 +0100, Inge Wallin wrote: On Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:51:12 Adam C. wrote: to me the design looks a little bit like hastily cobbled together. the elements are not aligned, there is no contrast and the different font types are fighting each other. there are

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:35:53 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > And now for the website. > > First of all, what it does not need is a new CMS, wordpress (which is not, > and I repeat it is *not*, a blog tool, but a publishing platform) does > suit our need. There is nothing that we have want

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

I'll try to avoid replying to all the mails in this thread, but... On Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:13:38 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > I have to say I agree with Cyrille here. It always made me laugh when i was > in purchasing, to see our supplier's commercial guy starting his speech > with "we are

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

Perhaps something like: Calligra Suite applications are built on a very flexible yet powerful engine. This allows Calligra Suite applications to be developed specifically for very broad range of devices, in particular to mobile appliances, as opposed to being merely tweaked and squeezed to fit an

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:51:18 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > Hi, > > Since your message concerns as much the marketing message as the website, I > have taken the liberty to split my answer in two. > > Here is the part concerning the marketing message. > > That is really great and import

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On 22 December 2011 12:51, Adam C. wrote: > to me the design looks a little bit like hastily cobbled together. the > elements are not aligned, there is no contrast and the different font types > are fighting each other. Thanks for the notes. Please help to improve the alignment by pointing what e

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:51:12 Adam C. wrote: > to me the design looks a little bit like hastily cobbled together. the > elements are not aligned, there is no contrast and the different font > types are fighting each other. there are to many elements, especially for > navigation (the apps,

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

to me the design looks a little bit like hastily cobbled together. the elements are not aligned, there is no contrast and the different font types are fighting each other. there are to many elements, especially for navigation (the apps, the top right menu, device selector and the monitor).

Re: Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

On 22 December 2011 11:35, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > And now for the website. > > First of all, what it does not need is a new CMS, wordpress (which is not, and > I repeat it is *not*, a blog tool, but a publishing platform) does suit our > need. There is nothing that we have wanted to do, th

RE: Mobile compatible web page

Though my experience regarding web devopment is limited, let me see if I may be of help in this area :) Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Jaroslaw Staniek Sent: 22/12/2011, 13:38 To: Gopalakrishna Bhat A; Calligra Suite developers and users mailing list Subject: Re: Mobi

RE: Mobile compatible web page

I would like that we show all the information that we show on the desktop web page (except for the related news scroller ) Also the screenshot images should be lighter(may be a thumbnail, which the user may click to get the whole image) Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: C

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > The problem lies not in Calligra itself but in the fact that the area > of mobile office is not (yet?) truly 'attacked` by the FOSS movement. I totally agree with you. And I hope we keep the edge we have in the mobile market (with an Android

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

well, doing a /s/market/segment does not improve the speech to me. I am always really cautious of companies/organisations/individuals who claim themselves to be the leader of something. Unless backed by other independent sources, these claims seem a bit presumptuous/pompous to me. On Thu, Dec 2

Calligra website (Re: "Marketing Message for Calligra")

And now for the website. First of all, what it does not need is a new CMS, wordpress (which is not, and I repeat it is *not*, a blog tool, but a publishing platform) does suit our need. There is nothing that we have wanted to do, that we have not been able to do with wordpress. It is far from p

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On 22 December 2011 11:13, Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > I have to say I agree with Cyrille here. It always made me laugh when i was > in purchasing, to see our supplier's commercial guy starting his speech with > "we are leader in our market". To which I always answered by asking to > define me prec

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On 22 December 2011 10:51, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > Since your message concerns as much the marketing message as the website, I > have taken the liberty to split my answer in two. > > Here is the part concerning the marketing message. > > That is really great and important to start thinking

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

On Thursday 22 December 2011, Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > Also, the web site says beta 5 as title, whereas the text underneath speaks > about the fourth beta being released and a fifth one eventually coming. Did > I miss something? I did miss it :) Fixed now. -- Cyrille Berger Skott __

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

I have to say I agree with Cyrille here. It always made me laugh when i was in purchasing, to see our supplier's commercial guy starting his speech with "we are leader in our market". To which I always answered by asking to define me precisely what their market was (because their competitor, which

Re: Mobile compatible web page

Hi, A mobile version is indeed on my radar. But so far, I have been left to wonder about what people expect from a mobile version. I think it is clear that you would want to see the list of news entry. But what else would you want to see on a mobile version ? On Thursday 22 December 2011, Gopa

Re: Marketing Message for Calligra

Hi, Since your message concerns as much the marketing message as the website, I have taken the liberty to split my answer in two. Here is the part concerning the marketing message. That is really great and important to start thinking about it. However, I would really like us to avoid any kind

Re: Help regarding project

> > > > Very great. Lot of thanks for sharing your progress. For poppler you may > like to have a look at http://people.freedesktop.org/~aacid/docs/qt4/ and > for implementations using it > http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/okular-devel/2011-May/009429.html ( > http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=okula

Re: Mobile compatible web page

On 22 December 2011 06:45, Gopalakrishna Bhat A wrote: > Hi, > I was reading calligra.org on my gprs connection and found that it took > 800+kb to load. I find this too heavy since Facebook and Google mail all load > within 40kb. > Since we are targeting the mobile audience also, I feel that we