Re: [BLOG] A "Hello World" VM running the Hurd!

2020-04-09 Thread Robert Smith
> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2020/a-hello-world-virtual-machine-running-the-hurd/ > > Enjoy! > Janneke & Ludovic Wow that's exciting, I can't wait to try out the VM for myself! Many thanks to everyone involvedd for their hard work! -Robert

Re: Rework of the userspace interrupt handling patch

2016-03-05 Thread Robert Millan
tation in Rump, which is partly based on libddekit. Did you take this into account? See the code in: https://github.com/rumpkernel/pci-userspace/blob/master/src-gnu/pci_user-gnu.c#L169 and precompiled testcase in: https://people.debian.org/~rmh/rump/apt/ Thanks! -- Robert Millan

Fwd: looking back at 2015

2016-01-16 Thread Robert Millan
FYI, some Hurd mention in Rumpkernel's yearly report Missatge reenviat Assumpte: looking back at 2015 Data: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:30:50 + De: Antti Kantee Respon a: po...@rumpkernel.org A: rumpkernel-users Hello, and a belated welcome to 2016, As people who've been on the

Re: licensing of intloop() in libddekit/interrupt.c

2015-12-01 Thread Robert Millan
El 30/11/15 a les 23:20, Olaf Buddenhagen ha escrit: > Hi Robert, > > On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 09:39:49PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > >> I have thus merged the remaining bits of GNU/Hurd port > [...] >> with this commit the port is now complete. > > Great! :

Re: licensing of intloop() in libddekit/interrupt.c

2015-11-10 Thread Robert Millan
El 10/11/15 a les 14:24, Antti Kantee ha escrit: > On 08/11/15 20:39, Robert Millan wrote: >> El 08/11/15 a les 20:45, Da Zheng ha escrit: >>> Hello Robert, >>> >>> Sure, I have no problem with the license. >> >> Excellent! >> >>

Re: licensing of intloop() in libddekit/interrupt.c

2015-11-08 Thread Robert Millan
El 08/11/15 a les 20:45, Da Zheng ha escrit: > Hello Robert, > > Sure, I have no problem with the license. Excellent! I have thus merged the remaining bits of GNU/Hurd port which included your code: https://github.com/rumpkernel/pci-userspace/commit/a9202c047ff191c752d62c1d03c843f

Re: licensing of intloop() in libddekit/interrupt.c

2015-11-08 Thread Robert Millan
6bf5bf6ed69717eb06a3628db https://alioth.debian.org/plugins/scmgit/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pkg-hurd/hurd.git;a=commit;h=1c5442e1fc9d4dfc71c7ce20900436897afcabf8 -- Robert Millan

Re: licensing of intloop() in libddekit/interrupt.c

2015-11-07 Thread Robert Millan
Apologies, I forgot to CC bug-hurd. El 07/11/15 a les 12:11, Robert Millan ha escrit: > > Unfortunately I didn't get any reply from Zheng Da. Does someone know if > Zheng is > using another email address nowadays? > > In case he can't be reached anymore, I

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-11-02 Thread Robert Millan
El 13/09/15 a les 14:55, Antti Kantee ha escrit: > On 13/09/15 09:33, Robert Millan wrote: >> Hi Antti >> >> El 31/08/15 a les 21:05, Antti Kantee ha escrit: >>> On 31/08/15 14:30, Robert Millan wrote: >>>> El 31/08/15 a les 16:04, Robert Millan ha escrit

Re: libusb+librump patch

2015-10-16 Thread Robert Millan
1) error(1, rump_errno2host(errno), "rump_sys_open"); -- Robert Millan

Re: libusb+librump patch

2015-10-01 Thread Robert Millan
RUMP_SYS_READWRITE is a bit dangerous. It would break any (current or future) usage of open() / close() / etc in that file which is not related to USB device nodes. Best regards -- Robert Millan

Re: Shortest path to significant improvement in hardware support

2015-09-30 Thread Robert Millan
marily USB as it seems that it along with sound (Robert Millan's work) is what people need most. After some thought I came to the conclusion that the way to achieve these requirements is to patch core libraries like libusb to use librump directly, analogously to what Robert Millan did originally f

Re: Fwd: Re: lib/50276: [PATCH] Portability fixes for ossaudio.c

2015-09-24 Thread Robert Millan
Hi Antti, Adding bug-hurd to CC since some of the issues may concern them. El 24/09/15 a les 16:02, Antti Kantee ha escrit: On 24/09/15 10:43, Robert Millan wrote: FYI: https://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=50276 If Hurd soundcard.h is missing those defines, doesn&#

Re: Sound translator

2015-09-24 Thread Robert Millan
El 23/09/15 a les 23:56, Olaf Buddenhagen ha escrit: On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 10:52:01AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: So if you wanted Sun audio, then yes it's a 1:1 wrapper. Otherwise you have to convert. That's a bummer. I was assuming that all BSDs -- and by extension, Rump

Re: USB Mass Storage with rump

2015-09-24 Thread Robert Millan
I think upstream will be more than happy to accept it. On my experience, Rump upstream is demanding in terms of code quality, but very friendly and always open to discuss things. -- Robert Millan

Re: misc/50166

2015-09-23 Thread Robert Millan
El 21/09/15 a les 23:53, Antti Kantee ha escrit: On 21/09/15 20:37, Robert Millan wrote: The result is much smaller than I expected. In fact, other than make (because of the bootstrap issue) and some Rump components, all remaining MAXPATHLEN/etc issues are handled by nbtool_config.h. Please

Rump errno conversion

2015-09-20 Thread Robert Millan
El 16/09/15 a les 22:57, Robert Millan ha escrit: int fd = rump_sys_open("/dev/ugenhc", RUMP_O_RDWR); if (fd == -1) error(1, rump_errtrans_rump2host(errno), "rump_sys_open"); Instead of rump_errtrans_rump2host() this should be rump_errno2host() which is th

Re: USB Mass Storage with rump

2015-09-19 Thread Robert Millan
Filter) to capture and inject packets. - if you want OSS rather than Sun audio, maybe you'll want a translator which opens /dev/rump/audio and exports OSS in /dev/audio, /dev/dsp, etc. -- Robert Millan

Re: Sound translator / PCI device handling

2015-09-19 Thread Robert Millan
nu/ seems the place to do it. [1] https://github.com/rumpkernel/pci-userspace [2] https://github.com/rumpkernel/wiki/wiki/Howto%3A-Accessing-PCI-devices-from-userspace -- Robert Millan

Re: Sound translator

2015-09-19 Thread Robert Millan
it build with non-NetBSD version of . My changes were for the Linux version but when I checked on GNU/Hurd it just needed minor adjustments. - Use modified versions of to define Rump _IOC* macros without namespace collision with system-wide ioctls. See: https://github.com/robert

Re: USB Mass Storage with rump

2015-09-19 Thread Robert Millan
El 19/09/15 a les 00:52, Olaf Buddenhagen ha escrit: On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:57:20PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: El 16/09/15 a les 05:47, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro ha escrit: I'm interested in USB support. I'd like to aim mass storage devices at first. For USB using Rum

Re: Full-time developer available

2015-09-18 Thread Robert Millan
El 18/09/15 a les 01:15, Justus Winter ha escrit: Quoting Robert Millan (2015-09-15 22:11:15) like, how to service ioctls without libtrivfs? Is there a reason why you don't want to use libtrivfs? Not particularly. I just noticed that libtrivfs doesn't implement a stub for ioct

Re: Full-time developer available

2015-09-18 Thread Robert Millan
El 17/09/15 a les 23:25, Samuel Thibault ha escrit: Robert Millan, le Thu 17 Sep 2015 21:55:32 +0200, a écrit : As for the rest of PCI devices, AFAICT they're free to be used by whoever wants them. My understanding is there's no need for an arbiter / multiplexer as long as all the co

Re: Full-time developer available

2015-09-17 Thread Robert Millan
rate processes doing this concurrently? AFAIK it shouldn't be a problem because hardware-mapped memory is excluded from processor caches. -- Robert Millan

Re: Full-time developer available

2015-09-16 Thread Robert Millan
c as they would fight each other trying to access the same hardware). At least for audio this is a lesser problem though, as /dev/audio is useful as a standalone node. BR & happy hacking -- Robert Millan

Re: Full-time developer available

2015-09-15 Thread Robert Millan
Hi Bruno, El 14/09/15 a les 00:32, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro ha escrit: I'm interested in improving Hurd's hardware support, probably working on the development of user-space device drivers[0], most likely the rump kernel integration. I see that Robert Millan has made some

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-09-13 Thread Robert Millan
Hi Antti El 31/08/15 a les 21:05, Antti Kantee ha escrit: On 31/08/15 14:30, Robert Millan wrote: El 31/08/15 a les 16:04, Robert Millan ha escrit: I had some trouble with the .BEGIN approach, but the MAKEFILEINC one works perfectly. I'm attaching a patch. Actually, please use thi

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-08-31 Thread Robert Millan
El 31/08/15 a les 16:04, Robert Millan ha escrit: I had some trouble with the .BEGIN approach, but the MAKEFILEINC one works perfectly. I'm attaching a patch. Actually, please use this one, which includes .ifdef not to break other platforms ;-) -- Robert Millan Index: rumpkernel-0~201

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-08-31 Thread Robert Millan
El 31/08/15 a les 13:07, Antti Kantee ha escrit: On 30/08/15 15:10, Robert Millan wrote: But that's not what you were asking for. I don't know what's wrong based on the above. Can you paste the entire Makefile and command line? Makefile is attached (in my tree, this is pci-us

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-08-30 Thread Robert Millan
le is attached (in my tree, this is pci-userspace/src-gnu/Makefile) Command-line is: ../../buildrump.sh/obj/tooldir/rumpmake dependall Many thanks -- Robert Millan RUMPTOP= ${TOPRUMP} RUMPCOMP_USER_SRCS.rumpdev_pci= pci_user-gnu.c experimentalUser.c RUMPCOMP_USER_PATH.rumpdev_pci

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-08-30 Thread Robert Millan
El 16/08/15 a les 13:09, Robert Millan ha escrit: * It includes code from other people under GPLv2; I'm not sure if this may be an issue wrt licensing policy of Rump as this is only targetted at the pci-userspace module. In any case if you think it's an issue let me know and we

Re: netdde drivers

2015-08-29 Thread Robert Millan
remaining parts of my Rump port merged. Other than that, let me know if I can be of any help. -- Robert Millan

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (3): system limits

2015-08-25 Thread Robert Millan
El 24/08/15 a les 23:45, Antti Kantee ha escrit: On 24/08/15 21:24, Robert Millan wrote: El 16/08/15 a les 15:07, Antti Kantee ha escrit: Can you submit the patches against NetBSD tools directly to NetBSD? [snip] Here: https://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=50166 The

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (3): system limits

2015-08-24 Thread Robert Millan
ingle.pl?number=50166 The buildrump.sh bit, again, please submit as a pull req on github. and here: https://github.com/rumpkernel/buildrump.sh/pull/73 Thanks -- Robert Millan

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (1): system detection

2015-08-24 Thread Robert Millan
El 16/08/15 a les 13:38, Antti Kantee ha escrit: On 16/08/15 10:48, Robert Millan wrote: Hi, Here's the first patch of my port of Rump to GNU/Hurd. It includes the basic system detection stuff. Applied the src-netbsd bits. Can you submit the buildrump.sh part as a pull req on g

Re: Sound on GNU/Hurd

2015-08-17 Thread Robert Millan
El 17/08/15 a les 01:10, Arne Babenhauserheide ha escrit: Am Sonntag, 16. August 2015, 23:49:15 schrieb Robert Millan: I managed to play some sound on GNU/Hurd using patched Rump and a modified mplayer. For those interested: Cool! Thank you for sharing it! You're welcome :) Di

Sound on GNU/Hurd

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
ported. 3. Install mplayer from the repository and run with: mplayer -ao sun soundfile.ogg Enjoy :-) -- Robert Millan

Re: [PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
that this code was written by you: El 16/08/15 a les 21:02, Olaf Buddenhagen ha escrit: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:09:59PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: * It includes code from other people under GPLv2; - intrthread() is heavily based on intloop() from hurd/libddekit/interrupt.c I ha

gnumach-dev: please include intr.h

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
upt.c- mach_msg_type_t intr_type; libddekit/interrupt.c- int line; libddekit/interrupt.c:} mach_intr_notification_t; Would you consider installing it in /usr/include/device/ for the sake of other programs who also want to do funny things with interrupts on userspace? :-) -- Robert Millan

licensing of intloop() from hurd/libddekit/interrupt.c

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
o people from University of Dresden. Given the DDE heritage of the code, I'm not sure who's the author of intloop() routine, as it is mostly Gnumach-aware code and seems unlikely to be part of DDE per se. Do you recall where it came from? Many thanks -- Robert Millan

[PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (3): system limits

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
took care to use the same limits Rump namespace has, just to avoid accidental cross-definition of a different value causing damage somewhere (e.g. overflows or such). -- Robert Millan --- a/buildrump.sh/buildrump.sh +++ b/buildrump.sh/buildrump.sh @@ -1074,6 +1074,7 @@ *-gnu*) EXTRA_RUMPCO

[PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (4): Userspace PCI I/O

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
opyright-significant though). -- Robert Millan --- /dev/null +++ b/pci-userspace/src-gnu/Makefile @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +RUMPTOP= ${TOPRUMP} + +RUMPCOMP_USER_SRCS.rumpdev_pci= pci_user-gnu.c experimentalUser.c +RUMPCOMP_USER_PATH.rumpdev_pci:= ${.PARSEDIR} +RUMPCOMP_USER_CPPFLAGS.rumpdev

[PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (1): system detection

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
Hi, Here's the first patch of my port of Rump to GNU/Hurd. It includes the basic system detection stuff. -- Robert Millan --- a/buildrump.sh/buildrump.sh +++ b/buildrump.sh/buildrump.sh @@ -993,6 +993,13 @@ cppdefines _LITTLE_ENDIAN \ && appendvar RUMPKERN_UNDEF -U_

[PATCH] Rump on GNU/Hurd (2): missing

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Millan
Hi, Apparently this routine only wants the Rump version of when building with Rump namespace, but it includes the header unconditionally. This is usually harmless as almost everyone has , but GNU/Hurd doesn't. So my patch just moves it into Rump protected space. -- Robert Millan

Technical Writer Position

2015-01-07 Thread Robert Sanders
Developers, I'm interested in volunteering to work on your documentation for the Hurd. I would also like to contribute code but I would need more experience with the source to be useful. My username is robsanders on Savannah. Rob

Noob to Pro (infos needed)

2006-11-04 Thread Robert \"BuRnEr\" Schadek
trying to teach my C. I'll be grateful for an kind of feedback. Thx Robert "BuRnEr" Schadek ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Noob to Pro (Infos needed)

2006-10-30 Thread Robert \"BuRnEr\" Schadek
trying to teach my C. I'll be grateful for an kind of feedback. Thx Robert "BuRnEr" Schadek ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: A Hurd release

2005-01-07 Thread Robert J. Chassell
he thinks he was asked. That is a necessity of a project seeking more hackers. -- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com ht

Re: A Hurd release

2005-01-07 Thread Robert J. Chassell
the `pay' being an acceptance on the part of others of a different way to receive bug reports. -- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com

Re: A Hurd release

2005-01-06 Thread Robert J. Chassell
than the trouble that [EMAIL PROTECTED] creates. This has little to do with programming; hacking skills fail. It has much to do with a goal of the HURD project, which is to help advance software freedom. -- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED

Bug#263748: Split fakeroot into a separate package.

2004-08-05 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:14:19PM +0300, Ognyan Kulev wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > >We're eventualy going to port fakeroot. So if we want it installable on > >GNU, > >the [/usr]/bin/fakeroot the Hurd package provides should be split in a > >separate p

Bug#263748: Split fakeroot into a separate package.

2004-08-05 Thread Robert Millan
Package: hurd Version: 20040508-2 Severity: wishlist Hi! We're eventualy going to port fakeroot. So if we want it installable on GNU, the [/usr]/bin/fakeroot the Hurd package provides should be split in a separate package (e.g. hurd-fakeroot) that conflicts and provides fakeroot. -- System Info

Bug#196913: please redo the patch

2004-06-19 Thread Robert Millan
tags 196913 - patch submitter 196913 [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks Hi! This patch does no longer apply to the debian hurd package, since the rules file has been rewritten. Ogi, please have a look. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the

Bug#252323: More binary-only software

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Millan
There's also fpe.b and fpe.b_elf. See the discussion in upstream: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2004-03/msg00223.html -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his o

Bug#252323: Contains binary-only firmware (from Linux)

2004-06-02 Thread Robert Millan
Package: gnumach Severity: serious Non-surprisingly, since gnumach borrowed drivers from linux it also borrowed binary-only firmware, which is non-free under DFSG. At least the following files are affected: linux/src/drivers/scsi/qlogicisp_asm.c I inspected the whole "linux" directory in gnum

Bug#246813: /usr/sbin/update-rc.d conflicts with sysv-rc's

2004-05-01 Thread Robert Millan
Package: hurd Severity: serious The hurd package is providing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d, that conflicts with the file provided in sysv-rc. You either need a Replaces or removing that file from the hurd package. I recommend the latter, since the standard update-rc.d in debian is more likely to cope wi

bits/in.h portability: Patch and RFC

2004-04-10 Thread Robert Millan
/* Hop doesn't need to be neighbour. */ #define IPV6_RTHDR_STRICT 1 /* Hop must be a neighbour. */ -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery;

Bug#184624: reboots unexpectedly after panic

2004-03-03 Thread Robert Millan
default > should be "quick reboot". > >Does someone think such patch would be useful? > > Yes. But only if the current behaviour is left as default. Why not sleep for, say, 10 seconds then reboot? -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is

Bug#184624: reboots unexpectedly after panic

2004-03-02 Thread Robert Millan
someone think such patch would be useful? I do (although I prefer while(1) ;) -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from ca

Bug#184624: reboots unexpectedly after panic

2004-03-01 Thread Robert Millan
the system. > --8<-- > > > Maybe that helps in your case? I'm not working on GNU/Hurd currently, but I think the default behaviour instead of reboot should either be halt or enter the debugger. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the dee

(no subject)

2003-12-02 Thread Robert
: then i can tell you,how you could make some easely.if you are interested, write me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]If not: then please forgive me for this unasked e-mail.I wish you success!Robert http://www.vipmail.hu Regisztrálj e-mail címet a Vipmail-nél! 15 MB tárterület

Re: [NEWS] "Thomas Bushnell Leaves HURD"

2003-11-21 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 04:27:59PM +0200, Ognyan Kulev wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > >Just to say this is strictly an upstream issue about the Hurd itself, not > >GNU/Hurd distributions. So I think help-hurd would be more appropiate than > >debian-hurd for pointing this sor

Re: [NEWS] "Thomas Bushnell Leaves HURD"

2003-11-21 Thread Robert Millan
I think help-hurd would be more appropiate than debian-hurd for pointing this sort of things. > Hi, > > The Hurd is in the news, but for unpleasant event. In case you missed > it: http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=5185 -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pri

Re: FTBFS: python

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Millan
g the libpthread implementation in the Hurd is a problem, we could easily enable libpthread emulation in libpth untill NPTL is ported to Mach, like I did for the GNU/KNetBSD port (see my last mail in bug #218011) -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of ma

Re: FTBFS: python

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Millan
utex-timedlock.c:55: > __pthread_mutex_timedlock_internal: Assertion `__pthread_threads' failed. > > Try running python under [gdb] and see what happens. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possessio

Re: GRUB patch for 'lilo -R' functionality

2003-11-11 Thread Robert Millan
e" argument has no effect. I.e: once you run savedefault it won't be restored to 0 after the next GRUB run. > If the patch will make it to the main tree then I may investigate > fixing this issue --- I suspect it wouldn't be too hard. Okuji should pronounce on this, but I

GRUB patch for 'lilo -R' functionality

2003-11-11 Thread Robert Millan
he boot routine itself). Could you review that? If it works, I intend to apply it at least for the Debian package, and possibly for CVS too (if Okuji agrees). For GRUB CVS, though, there's the issue of copyright assignment. Have you assigned copyright for GRUB or been asked about this before

Re: prealpha hush release

2003-10-28 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:30:57PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > FYI, > > i just released an extremely-alpha version of hush. What is hush? -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possessi

Implementing ACL support (Was: EA/ACL interface documents)

2003-10-16 Thread Robert Millan
Thanks Nathan, I'm forwarding this to bug-hurd just in case anyone is interested. On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:15:57AM +1000, Nathan Scott wrote: > > Robert, you might be able to find Andreas' message in a > "linux-fsdevel" mailing list archive somewhere on the ne

Implementing ACL support (Was: EA/ACL interface documents)

2003-10-15 Thread Robert Millan
cls/. The code itself also > contains some documentation (simply check out the kernel patches). > > Solaris: They have something like MacOS, each "extended attribute" there > is a separate file. No reference. > > > Cheers, > -- > Andreas Gruenbacher <[EMAIL P

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
s ways to prevent packages from being built without > being fixed or annotated properly. This doesn't belong on bug-hurd, which > is about systems where no header file exists. Ok. I understand this is off-topic and leave it here. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pr

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
we allow programmers to do really insane things they should never do. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing e

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
e hierrachy is so they can be used by Glibc. Too bad some people abuse that. In Debian, /usr/include/linux is provided by Glibc. Who provides these headers on other distributions? -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and ne

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
; I just don't understand what glibc has to do with improving the way > people code, especially when dealing with linux header files. Actualy Roland just pointed that the non-Debian world doesn't necessarily put Linux headers in Glibc package, so actualy this should be discussed in Linux

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
correct to do, most of them will learn what's correct to do. Anyway, the people fixing build errors after appliing this change are not likely the same that those who introduced the insanity in first place, so there's little chance that they arbitrarily define USE_LINUX. -- Robert Millan

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 07:58:20PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 07:45:16PM +0000, Robert Millan wrote: > > I'll raise the issue on Glibc mailing lists, and CC bug-hurd. Please make > > sure you people get to participate. > > Why CC bug-hurd?

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
its own wrappers which > would spew out warnings, but still #include the real linux headers > (I assume something from /usr/src/linux/include/*.h or whatever) > anyway? Good idea, I'll propose that as it sounds better than maintaining a set of patches. -- Robert Millan "[..] but th

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
his to a hard #error. I'll raise the issue on Glibc mailing lists, and CC bug-hurd. Please make sure you people get to participate. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own m

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 07:13:32PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:05:13PM +0000, Robert Millan wrote: > > I think we should disallow direct inclusion of in Glibc, any > > comments? > > There don't exist any headers in glibc, they come from &

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
bc in your > case. Of course. I just wanted to check with you people to see what the general opinion is. Since it sounds fine to you, I'll post to Glibc mailing lists in short. I'd like to hear Roland's opnion first, though. Roland, are you around? -- Robert Millan "[..]

Re: disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:16:47PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:05:13PM +0000, Robert Millan wrote: > > I think we should disallow direct inclusion of in Glibc, any > > comments? > > This is not an issue related to the Hurd at all. If you thi

disallow direct inclussion of

2003-10-04 Thread Robert Millan
Hi folks! I think we should disallow direct inclusion of in Glibc, any comments? Sort of like: #ifndef _USE_LINUX # error "Never include directly; use standard headers instead." #endif If you (specialy Roland) like the idea, I can send it to the Glibc lists. (and write a patch).

Re: libtool (branch-1-5) report

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Millan
that it is > only used to print what linker we are using. If thats the case then I > think we should just stick with the default which is a bit more > informative then "GNU ld.so" (the default is "gnu0.3 ld.so"). Maybe we'd ask them, but I don't it really mat

Re: libtool (branch-1-5) report

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Millan
as many defined variables than other GNU-like systems. Comparing to "kfreebsd*-gnu" and "knetbsd*-gnu", the following are missing: shlibpath_overrides_runpath=no dynamic_linker='GNU ld.so' Any comments on this? Perhaps we should ask the libtool maintainers. -

Selling for Engineers Seminar & Closing Techniques Workshop - newUS Canada dates.

2003-08-29 Thread Robert Seviour
he subject. Should sales-training not be relevant for your company, if you put the word 'delete' as the subject, I will take you off my mailing list immediately - and I'm sorry to have bothered you. Regards Robert Seviour ___ Bug

Bug#156600: Processed: Partially fixed

2003-08-17 Thread Robert Millan
at it?) btw thanks, we almost can build coreutils cleanly now :) -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, p

Re: ruby 1.8

2003-08-17 Thread Robert Millan
autobuilders will take them eventualy and upload them to the Debian archive. btw thanks to Michael Banck for fixing them! I was too busy to get into it back then :) -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in posse

Re: e2fslibs for ext2fs?

2003-08-15 Thread Robert Millan
mple. What libdiskfs does is using the > file pager to read the file contents. ok.. will have a look. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not,

e2fslibs for ext2fs?

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Millan
/unstable/admin/grub-disk.html -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."

Re: Status of ext2fs

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Millan
ah patch list for details. -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work." -- J.R.R.T

Re: [patch] compile and install hurd.ti

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Millan
ry. > +install: > + -tic -o $(prefix)/share/terminfo -x $(srcdir)/hurd.ti > > > ___ > Bug-hurd mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed

Re: [PATCH][ALPHA 3] ext2fs and large stores (> 1.5G)

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:36:11PM +0300, Ognyan Kulev wrote: > > Probably there are some advantages in using libstore instead of Unix API. Maybe.. but we can't fix every piece of software that uses Unix API to access block devices :) -- Ro

Re: [PATCH][ALPHA 3] ext2fs and large stores (> 1.5G)

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Millan
t upstream. Why not fix the 2G limit instead? This adds more work in maintaining e2fsprogs code and is a hack that distracts from the real problem that needs fixing. Anyway, most people create their partitions for GNU from a GNU/Linux system so e2fsprogs shouldn't have much problem. -- Rob

Re: A translator for the MINIX file system

2003-07-20 Thread Robert Millan
ver. The patch is merged in debian package (in unstable): http://packages.debian.org/util-linux It is actualy contained in the util-linux_*.diff.gz file. If someone has time to, it'd be nice to update it for latest upstream version of util-linux and send it to the upstream ma

Bug#185450: Xfree86 and console server (and VT_ACTIVATE, etc)

2003-07-18 Thread Robert Millan
be better to use Oskit instead. To the people who have played with Oskit already, do you think it's viable to use it as a backend for userspace drivers? -- Robert Millan ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Bug#185450: Xfree86 and console server (and VT_ACTIVATE, etc)

2003-07-18 Thread Robert Millan
[ I'm changing CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so it gets archived too ] Hi Gael, On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 11:41:10AM +0200, Gaël Le Mignot wrote: > Hello Robert! > > Just to remind you that it's not the console _server_ which conflicts > with X, but the console _client_ u

Xfree86 and console server (and VT_ACTIVATE, etc)

2003-07-17 Thread Robert Millan
d when X opens /dev/something, console stops using the keyboard or screen. when /dev/something is closed, it comes back or maybe in /var the same simple interface could be used for VT_ACTIVATE -- Robert Millan ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linux Poject

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Millan
ch, etc. Then find out what needs to be fixed and submit your patches to this list. Or if you are interested in having working applications for GNU, you could also dedicate your time to porting the software that you miss for that platform. -- Robert Millan _

Re: Linux Poject

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Millan
sitive reply > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > _______ > Bug-hurd mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnu.

Re: Design your own Linux-shoes

2003-07-12 Thread Robert Millan
to care. > > > > No, it's useful for non-subscribers to send messages. > > That doens't happen so often. If we grep out all known > subscribers, what does remain? My messages, for example. They're tagged by mailman as message from non-subscriber. -- Robert Millan

  1   2   >