Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
An now back to your regularly scheduled discussion where Carol Merrill is standing. For the millenials (like Ryan) that won't get that reference. Hell, I didn't get that reference, either, and I'm Gen X. That means Jeff is (does the math) really old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Merri

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread John Hearns via Beowulf
Gerald that is an excellent history. One small thing though: "Of course the ML came along" What came first - the chicken or the egg? Perhaps the Nvidia ecosystem made the ML revolution possible. You could run ML models on a cheap workstation or a laptop with an Nvidia GPU. Indeed I am sitting next

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:13:51 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:47 PM Jörg Saßmannshausen < >sassy-w...@sassy.formativ.net> wrote: >> >Once upon a time portability, interoperabiilty, standardization, were >considered good software and hardware attributes. >Whatever happened to them? I sus

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Tony Brian Albers
Please stop, both of you. /tony On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 09:31 -0500, Richard Walsh wrote: > > Jeffrey Layton wrote: > > >  I've been watching for OpenMP-Nazis and it looks like I found one. > > This is a joke, just like your apology.  You know nothing about me > and to  > suggest (without any e

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Richard Walsh
Jeffrey Layton wrote: > I've been watching for OpenMP-Nazis and it looks like I found one. This is a joke, just like your apology. You know nothing about me and to suggest (without any evidence) that I threatened your family is a measure of limited depth of your standard of proof in general I w

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Layton
Oops - my bad. I was reading the Phoronix articles and assumed the full OpenACC was implemented in 9.1. Only the back-end is implemented: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-GCN-GCC-Merged https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-9.1-Compiler-Released " Initi

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Layton
Very serious. Someone does need help - and culture needs changing (i.e. OpenMP). But apologies for posting this here. I've been watching for OpenMP-Nazis and it looks like I found one. Again - apologies for posting about this to the list. An now back to your regularly scheduled discussion where C

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 4:56 PM Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf wrote: > On 5/8/19 3:55 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: > >> On May 8, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Michael Di Domenico > >> wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:14 PM Gus Correa wrote: > >>> Once upon a time portability, interoperabiilty, standa

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Wed, 8 May 2019 15:36:58 -0400 Jeffrey Layton wrote: > Don't forget that gcc supports both NV and AMD GPUs with OpenACC. > That's one of the lead compilers listed on the Frontier specs. That would be really nice to try on AMD GPU but afaict it's not in gcc9 but still in development. Do you ha

Re: [Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

2019-05-09 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Wed, 08 May 2019 18:47:11 +0100 Jörg Saßmannshausen wrote: > Dear all, > > I think the answer to the question lies here: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenACC Well yes and no. The documents released by ORNL lists OpenMP-5 as the provided alternative (path forward) for OpenACC applicatio