On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:34:45 +0200
Thanasis Georgiou wrote:
> I was forced
> to dual-boot windows for 1 whole year until I finally made a TV tuner
> work in linux.
>
> --
> Thanasis Georgiou
as a matter of interest what was the TV card you could not get working
under linux as i have one i would
OT:
Another reply, just to correct a misunderstanding.
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 15:24 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> There are a lot of ice1712 (envy24) audio cards from the simplest ones
> like M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 up to the most professional ones like
> the RME Hammerfall which are totally not su
Am Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:35:07 +0200
schrieb Thanasis Georgiou :
> No it's not.
Sorry, but it is.
> The developers decided they want it a part of their
> desktop environment and now it's a dependency.
And that's the problem and the reason, why those flame wars regularly
pop up if PA is mentioned.
> On Mar 10, 2012 2:34 AM, "Ralf Mardorf"
wrote:
> At the beginning I only wanted to help, I didn't start that discussion
> about PA for this thread, other people did start it.
>
> I hope we can stop it, thanx
I can see your points and they are perfectly valid. I know how it feels to
have hardware
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 10:35 +0200, Thanasis Georgiou wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2012 2:34 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote:
> > Some people, not only deaf people, don't need audio with or without PA,
> > it's abstruse making it a dependency.
> No it's not. The developers decided they want it a part of their desk
On Mar 10, 2012 2:34 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote:
> Some people, not only deaf people, don't need audio with or without PA,
> it's abstruse making it a dependency.
No it's not. The developers decided they want it a part of their desktop
environment and now it's a dependency. You obviously have proble
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 01:17 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> No one is claiming that PA is necessary. Just that removing it without
> further thought is not going to necessarily make things any easier.
Related to this thread:
Since PA isn't needed for audio, troubleshooting most of the times will
bec
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Loui Chang wrote:
>> My guess is that what happens is that pulseaudio blocks the sound
>> device, and that's the reason you don't hear the beep when it is
>> running (i.e. when sounds play). Disabling PA as Ralf suggests would
>> in this case not help at all, and
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 18:37 -0500, Loui Chang wrote:
> I'm confused. Why is pulseaudio so necessary? I just use alsa for sound
> and have no problems whatsoever. Granted, I don't use one of them fancy
> shmancy desktop environments.
IMPORTANT!
WE NEED TO REPEAT THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN!
Those fancy-
On Fri 09 Mar 2012 11:45 +, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:27 AM, XeCycle wrote:
> > I use pulseaudio on my laptop. I start it by
> > `start-pulseaudio-x11` in something like .xinitrc (I use a
> > standalone wm with lxdm). When I resume from pm-suspend, the
> > system beepe
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 13:15 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:51:01 +
> schrieb John K Pate :
>
> > does every single question about pulseaudio really need to be
> > confronted with a holy war against pulseaudio?
>
> As long as it is such a crap, still doesn't work, doesn't s
Tom Gundersen writes:
[...]
> If I understand correctly your underlying problem can be solved by
> blacklisting the pcspkr module, that should make sure the kernel will
> no longer beep.
Thanks, this worked.
--
Carl Lei (XeCycle)
Department of Physics, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
OpenPGP pu
John K Pate writes:
[...]
> what does lsof /dev/snd/* say when you resme from pm-suspend?
Before I suspend:
COMMANDPIDUSER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
pulseaudi 1321 xecycle 22u CHR 116,6 0t0 501 /dev/snd/controlC0
pulseaudi 1321 xecycle 27u CHR 116,6 0t0
Ralf Mardorf writes:
[...]
> Pardon for my question. Do you really need the advantages of PA for your
> kind of audio usage?
Yes. I need some low-latency support, but jack introduced more
problems than pulseaudio did. And pulseaudio does provide a
reasonable latency for me. Another feature i
Am Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:45:50 +
schrieb Tom Gundersen :
> Disabling PA as Ralf suggests would
> in this case not help at all, and likely just make it worse (I wish
> people would stop suggesting to disable PA regardless of what the
> problem is, in most cases this is not going to make things eas
Am Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:51:01 +
schrieb John K Pate :
> does every single question about pulseaudio really need to be
> confronted with a holy war against pulseaudio?
As long as it is such a crap, still doesn't work, doesn't support
every sound and audio card, causes more problems than it solv
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 11:51 +, John K Pate wrote:
> does every single question about pulseaudio really need to be confronted
> with a holy war against pulseaudio?
No and it's not a holy war for me. I only try to help when people run
into issues that might be related to PA, IOW if there's an is
> > Pardon for my question. Do you really need the advantages of PA for your
> > kind of audio usage?
> > For the way I'm using PA it don't has an advantage, but is a PITA only,
>^^ audio
> > hence I never install it.
does every single question about pulseaudio really nee
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:27 AM, XeCycle wrote:
> I use pulseaudio on my laptop. I start it by
> `start-pulseaudio-x11` in something like .xinitrc (I use a
> standalone wm with lxdm). When I resume from pm-suspend, the
> system beeper issues several beeps; when I open a urxvt, a bash
> completio
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 12:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 18:27 +0800, XeCycle wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I use pulseaudio on my laptop. I start it by
> > `start-pulseaudio-x11` in something like .xinitrc (I use a
> > standalone wm with lxdm). When I resume from pm-suspend, t
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 18:27 +0800, XeCycle wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I use pulseaudio on my laptop. I start it by
> `start-pulseaudio-x11` in something like .xinitrc (I use a
> standalone wm with lxdm). When I resume from pm-suspend, the
> system beeper issues several beeps; when I open a urxvt, a bas
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