I'm not sure how/why (or when it started) but pulseaudio is disabling
auto-mute mode on my laptop. Normally when you plug in headphones,
speakers get muted. However, every time PA starts up, it disables that
auto-mute feature. (I then have to go into alsamixer and manually
re-enable it.) No
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On 10/21/2015 05:57 AM, Karsten Rode wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem I think is related to the startup of a systemd
> user session. I noticed lately that pulseaudio does not
> automatically start, although I can start it form the command line
>
On 21 October 2015 at 14:57, Karsten Rode wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem I think is related to the startup of a systemd user
> session. I noticed lately that pulseaudio does not automatically start,
> although I can start it form the command line later with
>
> $ pulseaudio --start
>
> After
Hi,
I have a problem I think is related to the startup of a systemd user
session. I noticed lately that pulseaudio does not automatically start,
although I can start it form the command line later with
$ pulseaudio --start
After digging around I found that pulseaudio should be started by the
s
Anyone else seeing this? My default.pa is stock (it wasn't before, but
I reverted the minor changes and no change in behaviour), and the
daemon just won't start.
If I comment out module-native-protocol-unix it will, but of course
it's not usable that way.
Reported it as a bug on freedesktop[1], b
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> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Mark Lee
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>> On 03/17/2014 07:54 PM, Adriano Moura wrote:
>>> Does the same happens with speaker-test? (in
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Mark Lee wrote:
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> On 03/17/2014 07:54 PM, Adriano Moura wrote:
>> Does the same happens with speaker-test? (included in alsa-utils)
>> Try running it like this:
>> speaker-test -c 6
Try with "speaker-test -c 6
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> Does the same happens with speaker-test? (included in alsa-utils)
> Try running it like this:
> speaker-test -c 6
>
>
> 2014-03-17 2:40 GMT-03:00 Kyle Terrien :
>
>> On 03/16/2014 10:21 PM, Kyle Terri
Does the same happens with speaker-test? (included in alsa-utils)
Try running it like this:
speaker-test -c 6
2014-03-17 2:40 GMT-03:00 Kyle Terrien :
> On 03/16/2014 10:21 PM, Kyle Terrien wrote:
> > Are you using PulseAudio?
>
> D'oh! I noticed the subject line said "Pulseaudio" right after se
On 03/16/2014 10:21 PM, Kyle Terrien wrote:
> Are you using PulseAudio?
D'oh! I noticed the subject line said "Pulseaudio" right after sending
my message. Sorry for the stupid question.
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On 03/16/2014 09:59 PM, Mark Lee wrote:
> Salutations,
>
> I recently hooked up a 5.1 surround sound receiver to my Haswell setup
> via HDMI. I used the sound manager in gnome to set the system to output
> 5.1 surround sound. However, while testing each individual speaker using
> the gnome sound s
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I recently hooked up a 5.1 surround sound receiver to my Haswell setup
via HDMI. I used the sound manager in gnome to set the system to output
5.1 surround sound. However, while testing each individual speaker using
the gnome sound sett
On 19.11.2012 08:08, Jan Steffens wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
>> Hi, Pulseaudio from [testing] just updated to 2.99.2-1, now mpd audio
>> output (running mpd as my own user) fails with the following:-
>>
>> Nov 19 14:45 : output: Failed to enable "MPD Pulse Output" [
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Zeke Sulastin wrote:
> >
> > Earlier I couldn't get pulseaudio to stop blocking my audio for vlc and
> > mplayer until I fixed this group membership problem.
>
>
> If you're logging in with systemd, your user should definitely not be in
> the 'audio' group and vlc/mplayer sh
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 22:45 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Is
> the
> user
> that's
> supposed
> to
> be
> able
> to
> use
> mpd
> in
> the
> audio
> group?
>
> If
> not,
> it
> may
> help
> to
> add
> the
> user
> to
> audio.
>
> Earlier I couldn't get pulseaudio to st
>
> Earlier I couldn't get pulseaudio to stop blocking my audio for vlc and
> mplayer until I fixed this group membership problem.
If you're logging in with systemd, your user should definitely not be in
the 'audio' group and vlc/mplayer should be very much able to connect to
Pulse unless you hav
Hi,
* On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:41:52AM +0800, Oon-Ee Ng
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
On Nov 19, 2012 10:27 AM, "Oon-Ee Ng" wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Jan Steffens wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng
wrote:
> > > Hi, P
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 2012 10:27 AM, "Oon-Ee Ng" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Jan Steffens > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Nov 19, 2012 10:27 AM, "Oon-Ee Ng" wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Jan Steffens >wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng
> wrote:
> > > > Hi, Pulseaudio from [testing] just updated to 2.99.2-1, now m
On Nov 19, 2012 10:27 AM, "Oon-Ee Ng" wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Jan Steffens wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng
wrote:
> > > Hi, Pulseaudio from [testing] just updated to 2.99.2-1, now mpd audio
> > > output (running mpd as my own user) fails with the follow
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Jan Steffens wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> > Hi, Pulseaudio from [testing] just updated to 2.99.2-1, now mpd audio
> > output (running mpd as my own user) fails with the following:-
> >
> > Nov 19 14:45 : output: Failed to enable "MP
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> Hi, Pulseaudio from [testing] just updated to 2.99.2-1, now mpd audio
> output (running mpd as my own user) fails with the following:-
>
> Nov 19 14:45 : output: Failed to enable "MPD Pulse Output" [pulse]:
> pa_context_connect() has failed: Conn
Hi, Pulseaudio from [testing] just updated to 2.99.2-1, now mpd audio
output (running mpd as my own user) fails with the following:-
Nov 19 14:45 : output: Failed to enable "MPD Pulse Output" [pulse]:
pa_context_connect() has failed: Connection refused
Nov 19 14:45 : player_thread: problems openin
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 20:25 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 01:14:47PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
>
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need.
>
> PA is indeed a great consumer thing, and it may be what
> you need. It is definitely not what some o
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:37:14 -0600
schrieb C Anthony Risinger :
> is this roughly message you want to send?
No, this is not the message, and I guess you totally misunderstood me.
The problem is that PulseAudio is not working with every sound and
audio card, but users are forced to install it as
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:14:47 -0600
schrieb Leonid Isaev :
> PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need.
That may be exactly what you need, but not what we need. Otherwise we
all could stick with Windows. You can read your e-mails and write some
letters with Windows. So why usin
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 01:14:47PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need.
PA is indeed a great consumer thing, and it may be what
you need. It is definitely not what some others need.
> Because noone cares about "pro" audio solutions
You me
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:29:28 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Please please please not again!!!
> >
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because
> > noone cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nightmare t
Thanks.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Please please please not again!!!
> >
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because
> noone
> > cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nig
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Please please please not again!!!
> >
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because
> noone
> > cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nightmare to
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> Please please please not again!!!
>
> PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because noone
> cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nightmare to configure.
>
> PA goes far beyond you KDE/gnome to embedded syst
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 12:37 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> dear Lennart and co.,
>
> make sure that your software is 100% optional and free of dependencies
> in either direction.
>
> signed,
>
> Your Friends in the Community
Dear my Friends in the Community,
PA already is optional.
Please
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:24:07 +0100
Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:25 +
> schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
>
> > PA is for 'consumer' use, its scope ends at ITU 5.1 or so.
> > It doesn't support any serious multichannel card (like the
> > the comlete RME series, up to 64+64 channels)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Heiko Baums wrote:
>
> If Lennart would either fix all those issues in PulseAudio and systemd,
> so that they would really work for everybody and would really bring
> advantages for everybody or at least no disadvantages, or if his
> software would just be optiona
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:34:32 +
schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
> It's part of a more general trend, that of dependencies on
> specific desktop junk trickling down into even basic system
> components and plain apps.
And that's a problem. This should be changed again.
> And it's staring to affect Ar
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:22:05 +0100
schrieb Stefan Wilkens :
> Does this really need to be rehashed yet again? This isn't arch
> related yet these PA back and forths keeps popping up in the mailboxes
> of all the registered people looking for arch-related content.
>
> I didn't follow the original
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:24:07PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> If PulseAudio was generally only optional and if its developers
> wouldn't try to declare it as a standard, I just wouldn't care.
It's part of a more general trend, that of dependencies on
specific desktop junk trickling down into ev
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:25 +
schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
> PA is for 'consumer' use, its scope ends at ITU 5.1 or so.
> It doesn't support any serious multichannel card (like the
> the comlete RME series, up to 64+64 channels). Users of such
> cards don't need or want PA, so it's really not a
2012/1/28 Heiko Baums :
> Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:29:33 +0100
> schrieb Ralf Mardorf :
>
>> The majority of Linux users on non-audio Linux mailing lists praise
>> PA, ...
>
> And the most computer users use Windows. So what's the point? That
> doesn't mean that Windows is better than Linux or that W
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:29:33 +0100
schrieb Ralf Mardorf :
> The majority of Linux users on non-audio Linux mailing lists praise
> PA, ...
And the most computer users use Windows. So what's the point? That
doesn't mean that Windows is better than Linux or that Windows works
perfectly.
I'm sure th
On 09-04-2011 14:47, Matthew Monaco wrote:
> Hmm, I tried that, didn't seem to help. In fact it's super frustrating
> now because VLC is back to use ~16% CPU again no matter what resample
> method I use and what audio output option I choose.
Are you sure you have set vlc to output to pulse directl
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:47:16 -0400
Matthew Monaco wrote:
> On 04/09/2011 04:46 AM, Mauro Santos wrote:
> > On 09-04-2011 02:12, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> >
> >> PA buffers better than ALSA, or is supposed to, in any case. Of
> >> course, if you're using its ALSA-emulation that's a moot point. AFAICR
> >
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Sander Jansen wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote:
>> On 04/09/2011 04:46 AM, Mauro Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09-04-2011 02:12, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
>>>
PA buffers better than ALSA, or is supposed to, in any case. Of
course, if you're
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote:
> On 04/09/2011 04:46 AM, Mauro Santos wrote:
>>
>> On 09-04-2011 02:12, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
>>
>>> PA buffers better than ALSA, or is supposed to, in any case. Of
>>> course, if you're using its ALSA-emulation that's a moot point. AFAICR
>>> (hav
On 04/09/2011 04:46 AM, Mauro Santos wrote:
On 09-04-2011 02:12, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
PA buffers better than ALSA, or is supposed to, in any case. Of
course, if you're using its ALSA-emulation that's a moot point. AFAICR
(haven't had this problem for ages), CPU usage from PA is basically
caused by
Le mercredi 8 à 0:55, Brendan Long a écrit :
> Have you seen the PulseAudio volume control applet (for Gnome)? My
> favorite two parts are being able to control sound for each
> application separately (Pidgin doesn't need to be as loud as Banshee),
> and being able to switch output while things are
On 12/01/2010 08:09 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
since i recently blew up my computer "accidentally on purpose"[1]... i
decided to try this since i said i would and so many others to had
success.
works perfectly under a fresh install, e17 desktop; nice w3rk! i'm
liking it quite a bit... sharin
Of course.
My observation was meant to go with the comment above on preventing
pulseaudio from starting if it is installed by deleting the dbus activation
files. Just pointing out that an application may, potentially, still start
it.
On 02.12.2010 16:23, Simon Gomizelj wrote:
From my limited experience with pulseaudio on a machine without X, it seems
that anything that has native pulse support in it will automatically start
pulse on demand anyways.
on ArchLinux if you don't install the pulseaudio package, there wont be
an
>From my limited experience with pulseaudio on a machine without X, it seems
that anything that has native pulse support in it will automatically start
pulse on demand anyways.
2010/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee
> On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 21:09 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 21:09 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jan Steffens wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Sander Jansen wrote:
> >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if pulseaudio is installed, I believe you
> >> should be able to prevent it from startin
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jan Steffens wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Sander Jansen wrote:
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if pulseaudio is installed, I believe you
>> should be able to prevent it from starting by removing the dbus
>> activation files:
>>
>> etc/xdg/
>> etc/xdg
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Sander Jansen wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if pulseaudio is installed, I believe you
> should be able to prevent it from starting by removing the dbus
> activation files:
>
> etc/xdg/
> etc/xdg/autostart/
> etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio-kde.desktop
> etc/xd
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Damjan Georgievski wrote:
>> I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no
>> feedback on this.
>>
>> This either means it works well, or nobody uses it.
>>
>> So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running
>> PulseAudio.
On 29.11.2010 10:21, Jan de Groot wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 10:09 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
I guess I am one of those pulse-haters. I don't care whether it's in
[extra], some other official repo or not since I simply don't need it.
But now mplayer pulls in libpulse, and I have no idea
On 28.11.2010 11:47, Χρήστος Κώτσαρης wrote:
> Regarding phonon being dropped, after some googling it seems i was mistaken,
> what i had read was that Qt framework is dropping phonon, not KDE. But still,
> i believe it would be sane to drop phonon in KDE too and replace it with
> Pulseaudio, it
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 13:21 +0100, Damjan Georgievski wrote:
> > I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no
> > feedback on this.
> >
> > This either means it works well, or nobody uses it.
> >
> > So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running
> > Puls
> I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no
> feedback on this.
>
> This either means it works well, or nobody uses it.
>
> So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running
> PulseAudio.
Great work Jan,
it seems your updates have eliminated all the *-pu
>> The benefit is that Flash will not f**k and lock your sound card.
>
> These problems are solved since years. I even made a test. Playing two
> flash videos, playing music through mplayer with alsa and starting an
> old game which uses oss. All this works just fine with plain alsa.
No, I ment th
On Monday 29 November 2010 09:21:12 Jan de Groot wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 10:09 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
> > I guess I am one of those pulse-haters. I don't care whether it's in
> > [extra], some other official repo or not since I simply don't need it.
> > But now mplayer pulls in lib
Excerpts from Jan de Groot's message of 2010-11-29 10:21:12 +0100:
> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 10:09 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
> > I guess I am one of those pulse-haters. I don't care whether it's in
> > [extra], some other official repo or not since I simply don't need it.
> > But now mplayer p
On 11/28/10 23:19, Christos Kotsaris wrote:
Well Morgan Gangwere
since all of us Arch users understand this greatly important need to play a 13
year game on an 11 year old machine, we should rollback all changes and send
pulseaudio in AUR where it belongs.
I mean, we can't leave behind every ch
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 17:25 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> Good luck getting pulse-haters to understand that a 1.14 MB package
> isn't going to kill their system though.
>
> Thanks JGC for your work on this. I didn't think it was possible to
> have
> such choice, and it looks like you've jumped through
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 10:21 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 10:09 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
> > I guess I am one of those pulse-haters. I don't care whether it's in
> > [extra], some other official repo or not since I simply don't need it.
> > But now mplayer pulls in libp
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 10:09 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
> I guess I am one of those pulse-haters. I don't care whether it's in
> [extra], some other official repo or not since I simply don't need it.
> But now mplayer pulls in libpulse, and I have no idea which consequences
> this could have.
Excerpts from christos.kotsaris's message of 2010-11-29 08:05:40 +0100:
> On a more serious mode now:
>
> As the devs themselves said, pulseaudio is optional, unless you are using
> GNOME, which requires Pulseaudio upstream. There is nothing clearer than
> that.
> Go blame GNOME developers.
>
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
> These problems are solved since years. I even made a test. Playing two
> flash videos, playing music through mplayer with alsa and starting an
> old game which uses oss. All this works just fine with plain alsa.
>
> --
> Pierre Schmitz, http
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:27:47 +0100, Damjan wrote:
>>> I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no
>>> feedback on this.
>>>
>>> This either means it works well, or nobody uses it.
>>>
>>> So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running
>>> PulseAudio.
>>
On a more serious mode now:
As the devs themselves said, pulseaudio is optional, unless you are using
GNOME, which requires Pulseaudio upstream. There is nothing clearer than that.
Go blame GNOME developers.
There is something i noticed. Morgan Gandwere is a Debian convert... That
explains a l
Well Morgan Gangwere
since all of us Arch users understand this greatly important need to play a 13
year game on an 11 year old machine, we should rollback all changes and send
pulseaudio in AUR where it belongs.
I mean, we can't leave behind every cheap computer user who can't be bothered
to
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:29:56PM -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 01:15 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:44:10PM -0500, Simon Gomizelj wrote:
> >
> > > Pulseaudio has been buggy because in many cases they have been the very
> > > first people to
On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 01:15 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:44:10PM -0500, Simon Gomizelj wrote:
>>
>>> Pulseaudio has been buggy because in many cases they have been the
>>> very
>>> first people to ever make use
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 01:15 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:44:10PM -0500, Simon Gomizelj wrote:
>
> > Pulseaudio has been buggy because in many cases they have been the very
> > first people to ever make use of some of the more esoteric parts of alsa.
> > Those par
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 06:44:10PM -0500, Simon Gomizelj wrote:
> Pulseaudio has been buggy because in many cases they have been the very
> first people to ever make use of some of the more esoteric parts of alsa.
> Those parts also lacked proper documentation and many drivers didn't even
> bother
Pulseaudio did expose a lot of bugs in alsa that needed to be fixed in alsa.
IIRC they are attempting to move from scheduling sound with the soundcard's
hardware interrupts to an entirely cpu based method. I can't remember
exactly what the technique is, but it allows for better latency control,
bet
Excerpts from Ng Oon-Ee's message of 2010-11-28 17:19:11 +0100:
>
> I'll take both your words on it. Its worth noting that Pulseaudio
> automatically corks when JACK wants a sound-device (jack2 that is, not
> jack1). Running phonon atop pulseaudio wouldn't make sense if every app
> uses phonon. Du
On 28-11-2010 16:21, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> ... if they were to actually test this,
> would FLOOD this entire discussion with problems that would make the
> Arch devs reconsider this decision.
So you are making the assumption that using pulse still causes the same
problems it used to cause before (o
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:24 +, Nathan Wayde wrote:
> >
> > It's probably because the masses of people who already know Pulse Audio
> > will break their sound aren't bothering to try it. I have a whole IRC
> > channel filled with people who, if they were to actually test this,
> > would FLOOD th
On 11/28/2010 06:18 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:15 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
On 29 November 2010 00:08, Yaro Kasear wrote:
Once again, I say PA is far from the kind of quality I'd expect from a
package in [extra], and I'm surprised the Arch devs are even considering
it, espe
It's probably because the masses of people who already know Pulse Audio
will break their sound aren't bothering to try it. I have a whole IRC
channel filled with people who, if they were to actually test this,
would FLOOD this entire discussion with problems that would make the
Arch devs reconsid
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:19 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 17:49 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
> > On 28 November 2010 11:24, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 11:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > >> > I don't see K
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 17:49 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
> On 28 November 2010 11:24, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 11:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> >> > I don't see KDE upstream doing that. They have Phonon. What's more, most
>
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:15 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
> On 29 November 2010 00:08, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > Once again, I say PA is far from the kind of quality I'd expect from a
> > package in [extra], and I'm surprised the Arch devs are even considering
> > it, especially in light of the fact that
On 29 November 2010 00:08, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> Once again, I say PA is far from the kind of quality I'd expect from a
> package in [extra], and I'm surprised the Arch devs are even considering
> it, especially in light of the fact that there's far more stable and
> useful packages in [community]
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 12:11 +0200, Χρήστος Κώτσαρης wrote:
> I believe this was the right choice. Pulseaudio should be in extra and all
> applications build with pulse support.
Except for the fact that Pulse Audio is an incredible REGRESSION in
Linux sound and causes far more problems than it sol
On Sunday 28 November 2010 12:48:38 Jan Steffens wrote:
> Note that as far as I know, phonon is an abstraction API with similar
> functionality like GStreamer, not PulseAudio.
Yes indeed, that's my understanding too.
Anyway, thanks Jan - I can report that I'm using KDE, VLC etc. without pulse
an
2010/11/28 Χρήστος Κώτσαρης :
> Regarding phonon being dropped, after some googling it seems i was mistaken,
> what i had read was that Qt framework is dropping phonon, not KDE. But still,
> i believe it would be sane to drop phonon in KDE too and replace it with
> Pulseaudio, it is the best choice
Regarding phonon being dropped, after some googling it seems i was mistaken,
what i had read was that Qt framework is dropping phonon, not KDE. But still,
i believe it would be sane to drop phonon in KDE too and replace it with
Pulseaudio, it is the best choice. No need for 2 sound servers when
I believe this was the right choice. Pulseaudio should be in extra and all
applications build with pulse support.
Regarding phonon, i believe KDE intends to drop it at some point, not sure
were i read that. I remember reading something about KDE 5 not including
phonon, but it may be FUD. Anyone
On 28 November 2010 11:24, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 11:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
>> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
>> > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
>> > > Just don't use Gnome. Upstream is going to make Pulseaudio default. KDE
>> >
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 11:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> > > Just don't use Gnome. Upstream is going to make Pulseaudio default. KDE
> > > as well, maybe.
> > >
> > I don't see KDE upstream
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> > Just don't use Gnome. Upstream is going to make Pulseaudio default. KDE
> > as well, maybe.
> >
> I don't see KDE upstream doing that. They have Phonon. What's more, most
> KDE apps toda
2010/11/27 Ng Oon-Ee :
> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 13:01 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Philipp Überbacher
>> > Gnome isn't Linux, Gnome is primarily a DAU-top. I don't see why gnome
>> > should govern the direction of every distribution. Yes, ubuntu decided
>> > t
2010/11/28 Ng Oon-Ee :
> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 19:34 -0200, Bernardo Barros wrote:
>> My experience is that pulseaudio sometimes works for simple desktop audio.
>> Any serious work with audio it just cause (or potentially cause) problems...
>> (again, just my experience)
>
> if (serious audio work)
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 19:34 -0200, Bernardo Barros wrote:
> My experience is that pulseaudio sometimes works for simple desktop audio.
> Any serious work with audio it just cause (or potentially cause) problems...
> (again, just my experience)
if (serious audio work); then
pulseaudio -k; jackd
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 13:01 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Philipp Überbacher
> > Gnome isn't Linux, Gnome is primarily a DAU-top. I don't see why gnome
> > should govern the direction of every distribution. Yes, ubuntu decided
> > that they want to follow and b
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 12:09 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
>
> >
> > I stated it before, but I'll say it here, I don't think Pulse Audio is
> > right for [extra]. Compiz is a lot more stable and still manages to stay
> > in [community]. Pulse goes
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 12:09 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
>
> I stated it before, but I'll say it here, I don't think Pulse Audio is
> right for [extra]. Compiz is a lot more stable and still manages to stay
> in [community]. Pulse goes down a lot and takes sound with it and it's
> getting put in [ex
My experience is that pulseaudio sometimes works for simple desktop audio.
Any serious work with audio it just cause (or potentially cause) problems...
(again, just my experience)
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