Re: [arch-general] lcms - needs upgrade because of security

2010-08-14 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Kurt J. Bosch wrote: > Am 2010-08-14 21:48, schrieb Laurent Carlier: >> >> You should fill a bugreport as there is security issues >> > No. Last time I did this it was rejected - > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10679 That reject was plain wrong, we should encoura

Re: [arch-general] Package signing for the umpteenth time (was Re: unrealircd 3.2.8.1-2 contains backdoor)

2010-06-13 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > > This is the reason why we need package signing for Pacman.  I'm aware > that some progress has been made and it's being worked on.  Are there > any updates? > It's all there : http://projects.archlinux.org/users/allan/pacman.git/log/?h=

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [PATCH] Check all checksum types

2010-06-08 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Kazuo Teramoto wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Allan McRae wrote: >> Check every checksum that makepkg supports rather than only md5sums. >> Fixes FS#17168. >> >> Signed-off-by: Allan McRae >> --- >> >> I am sure there has to be some way to loop through a

Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-05 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:36 AM, xenof0nt wrote: > > Sorry there is no other alternative. The only solution is Shaman2 but > currently is in Alpha stage. That means it is highly unstable and dangerous > for your system. > Arch will never provide a graphical tool for pacman. > So if you can't live w

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Thu 27 May 2010 14:43 +0200, Xavier Chantry wrote: >> Dozens of people have contributed to the discussion, but no one >> actually cares about getting some clarifications ? >> I just don't get it. >> I fee

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-27 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Xavier Chantry wrote: > Then, if you want to do something about it, just go ahead and talk > with these people Joerg kindly mentioned. > Ask them whether they agree or disagree with Eben's interpretation > that GPL compliance on mkisofs i

Re: [arch-general] regression in nouveau ?

2010-05-26 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, wrote: > > Looking at the xrun statistics in function of audio period size, > it looks like current nouveau is blocking audio (either by dis- > abling interrupts, or by locking a shared HW resource) for about > 3-4 ms. *No* driver today should ever do that - it's

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-26 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:32 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > at the possibility of playing devils advocate, i don't see anything > outrageous by Jeorg's claims... even after reading the full 40+ > messages twice and the "yay" thread started afterwards. > Sorry to inform you that you did not rea

Re: [arch-general] cdrtools again... yay! - Was: Burning From Command Line

2010-05-26 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Allan McRae wrote: > >> [about time we changed the subject] >> >> Joerg, >> >> Even given you are correct about licensing terms (which I do not care to >> dispute), currently all risk lies on the distributor.  Given many >> distributions h

Re: [arch-general] regression in nouveau ?

2010-05-26 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Xavier Chantry wrote: > > Also note the first item about latency on this page : > http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ToDo > Ah now I remember where this latency TODO came from, there actually was one report about bad latency earlier that month (feb

Re: [arch-general] regression in nouveau ?

2010-05-26 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:08 AM, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > > Sadly audio performance / locks /latency seems to be not on graphics driver > developers > minds at all. It's definitely not their primary focus. But if you open a bug report saying "that commit greatly increased latency" and you can

Re: [arch-general] regression in nouveau ?

2010-05-25 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:32 AM, wrote: > > I don't mind having to tweak things, do a lot of configuration > manually, etc. etc., but I do expect things to work when they > go into core/extra, or at least have a fallback available. > There is none, AFAICS. > I don't know what you are saying. Ju

Re: [arch-general] regression in nouveau ?

2010-05-24 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:00 PM, wrote: > Hello all, > > over the past few months I have installed Arch on a number of > systems, all of them used for quite intensive audio work (think > of systems with > 1000 jack ports). All of them have worked > flawlessly, no latency problems even with the s

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-24 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Rasmus Steinke wrote: > > Jörg has a point. While of course being biased about his pet cdrtools, > cdrkit is not on par with cdrtools in any way. > Those updates you mention more or less only consist of small fixes, no > progess at all in that package. > > The ONL

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-22 Thread Xavier Chantry
2010/5/23 Ng Oon-Ee : > On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 23:07 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: >> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 22:49, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: >> > >> > What ? Is that really true ?!?!? State some link where it is officially >> > declared by the developers. >> Joerg is the author of the software he

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: AIF through proxy

2010-05-22 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > or write this to /etc/profile: > alias pacman='http_proxy=.. ftp_proxy=.. pacman' > I would suggest that last way, either an alias or shell function or shell wrapper.

Re: [arch-general] AIF through proxy

2010-05-22 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 02:04:41 +0200 > "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Dieter Plaetinck >> wrote: >> > On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:41:12 +0200 >> > "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: >> > >> >> >> just give

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] phoronix: Is Arch faster than Ubuntu?

2010-05-19 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Dan McGee wrote: >> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Aaron Griffin >> wrote: >>> Came across my reader today >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_arch_faster&num=1 >>> >>> Pretty

Re: [arch-general] vim runtime woes

2010-05-14 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Jan Steffens wrote: > The vim runtime that can be retrieved via rsync is outdated. > > Some of the patches modify the runtime, and some of these changes > (e.g. 394) are lost when the runtime is overwritten with the runtime > from rsync. > > Not using the runtime f

Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD parser

2010-05-10 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 10/05/10 02:06, Loui Chang wrote: >> >> On Sun 09 May 2010 16:21 +0200, Xavier Chantry wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Allan McRae  wrote: >>>> >>>> Sourcing is d

Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD parser

2010-05-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > Yeah I've thought about this as well. Source packages could have a > similar format as binary packages with a .PKGINFO file to present the > metadata in an easily parsable format. > > You can read some of my incomplete brainstormings here: > ht

Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD parser

2010-05-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > > Sourcing is dangerous if the PKGBUILD is from an untrusted source.  It also > fails with package splitting... > Makes me wonder why pkgbuilds are written in bash. Sounds like a big design flaw. But it depends on what our needs are : 1) we do

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > >        I have had vim and gvim installed side by side for 6 months+, today > during > update, pacman wanted to remove vim because it now conflicts with gvim. So I > removed gvim and updated. What is the conflict? Why a conflict n

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [toolchain] gcc 4.5 breakage

2010-05-06 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: > > All this is probably unrelated to http://gcc.gnu.org/PR43987, but perhaps > it will save some time for someone, as your post about busybox helped me. > I'll wait for a new gcc package before reporting a gcc bug. > IMO you should report

Re: [arch-general] Firefox graphics licensed under MPL

2010-05-02 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:26 PM, 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Denis Kobozev wrote: >> Hi archers, >> >> If you believe the comment on Mozilla's bugtracker [1] and the change >> to the license file [2], the previously non-free Firefox graphics are >> now licensed under the MP

Re: [arch-general] How to take screenshot of ring switcher ?

2010-04-29 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > > I know this is a silly reason, but this is the general trend I've observed > dealing with people in real life and on the internet. They fear from using > Linux because they think it has no GUI or it is bad. > Well that's not complete

Re: [arch-general] How to take screenshot of ring switcher ?

2010-04-29 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > > That's the main aim for which I want to do this. By showing them the > screenshots which will look "awesome" to them, it may be possible to win > their minds. > This is the silliest reason I've ever heard for switching to Linux. Her

Re: [arch-general] Crisp Rendering Fonts

2010-04-29 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Michishige Kaito wrote: >> >> Anti-aliasing is turned off for >> small point sizes and turned on for larger sizes. >> >> Denis. >> > > I'd be very interested in finding out how this is controlled. Could you > point me at a resource on the topic? > http://wiki.arch

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] xorg-server 1.8 repository

2010-04-18 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 23:41 -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: >> > Things todo before this merges to extra: >> > - Fix xf86-video-siliconmotion, xf86-video-unichrome, xf86-video-nouveau >> >> I'm

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] gcc-4.5 toolchain rebuild

2010-04-17 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: > Thanks for your reply Allan. > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Allan McRae wrote: >> On 17/04/10 00:03, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: >>> >>> Just out of curiosity, what is the plan regarding this issue (quoted >>> from the gcc changelog): >

Re: [arch-general] Update Error - :: sysprof-module: requires kernel26<2.6.33 (is this a wait on the mirrors thing?)

2010-04-11 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > >        Trying to update and I received: > > 05:15 nirvana:~/img/pics/portraits/dcr> pms -u > :: Synchronizing package databases... >  core is up to date >  extra is up to date >  community is up to date >  archlinuxfr is up to da

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:54 PM, bardo wrote: > 2010/4/9 David Rosenstrauch : >> * I'm getting a load of errors in the slim.log file that look like this: >> expected keysym, got XF86_Switch_VT_1 line 8 of xfree86 >> >> >> W  T  F  ? ! ? > > Not sure it's the same problem, but I experienced somethin

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:05 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On Thu, April 8, 2010 9:51 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: >> So WTF?!?!?!?  Hal sees the keyboard.  And xev running inside the x >> session sees the keyboard.  SO WHY ON EARTH IS MY KEYBOARD STILL DEAD IN >> MY X SESSIONS?!?!?  AG

[arch-general] nvidia with latest Xorg

2010-04-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 04/07/2010 09:55 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: >> On 04/07/2010 10:46 AM, Xavier Chantry wrote: >>> Can you attach full Xorg log and config ? >> >> I'm not using any xorg config.  Log is at: >

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:59 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > Anybody have any ideas on this?  GUI is completely unusable on the server > until I solve this!  :-( > > I really have zero idea what's going on.  And it's a difficult thing to find > good specific search terms for, as there's been nume

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > I upgraded my extremely not-up-to-date server last night (523 packages > upgraded).  The upgrade generally went well, except for one significant > issue:  the keyboard is no longer working under Xorg.  It works fine in a > command line tt

Re: [arch-general] Getting X running on new install (Ionut Biru)

2010-03-31 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Alain Muls wrote: > > That is exactly what I did. I am not a beginner and have read quite some > articles about Arch and I am aware of the fact that I have to follow > carefully all steps in this installation process. So pleas bear with me and > hep me over this pr

Re: [arch-general] kaffeine [sigh] is there an alternative that:...

2010-03-30 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:54:48 +0200 > schrieb Xavier Chantry : > >> Heh cmus is probably my preferred player now so I ought to defend it. >> >> Too complicated, seriously ? The only command I ever need is the >

Re: [arch-general] kaffeine [sigh] is there an alternative that:...

2010-03-30 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:10:22 +0800 > schrieb Ian-Xue Li : > >> As for MOC, I recommend cmus over MOC because it got more decoder over >> different types files. > > Well, just tried cmus. It's so complicated an unintuitive. If I need to > first

Re: [arch-general] kaffeine [sigh] is there an alternative that:...

2010-03-30 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > Could somebody recommend another media player I could try that will let me > create temporary music lists on the fly by typing the path to a parent > dir containing multiple music directories??? > I don't know any music player tha

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.6.1-1

2010-03-29 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Xavier Chantry wrote: > > A very quick look at the git repo : > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=54d55bba41f2ff31682fe6523ef6f49b37a0e20f > > I just love these easy to browse web interface :) > 2.6.2 released which inclu

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.6.1-1

2010-03-29 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Andrea Scarpino > wrote: >> On Friday 26 March 2010 13:57:08 Allan McRae wrote: >>> Upstream bug fix release. >>> >>> Signoff both, >>> Allan >> I got a segfault when I do: >> $ grep -qrl --include "desc" "^pac

Re: [arch-general] gsfonts - package is updated?

2010-03-25 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Giovanni Scafora wrote: > Il 26/03/2010 00:02, Ng Oon-Ee ha scritto: >> >> Repository     : extra >> Name           : gsfonts >> Version        : 1.0.7pre44-1 >> Installed      : 8.11-5 >> URL            : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gs-fonts/ >> >> I'm assumi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.6-1

2010-03-25 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Upstream big update. > > Local changelog: >  - Removed the multibyte locale speed-up patch (and all the patches to fix > the issues it created...) as it is now included upstream. >  - Removed the other patches as it appears they are not being

Re: [arch-general] tmpfs

2010-03-25 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > This is definitely NOT SAFE! > > If you don't have /dev/shm, POSIX shared memory will use the same tmpfs > filesystem as /dev, which is currently limited to 10MB - POSIX shared > memory blocks might be much larger. > > As for removing /dev

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] dmraid-1.0.0rc16-3

2010-03-18 Thread Xavier Chantry
Tobias, did you receive the last mail from dmraid developer ? It seems we can solve this problem in a better way now with just a runtime option. And keep just the dynamic binary. I will see if I can get that running and working. Or do you still want to temporarily re-add static dmraid despites tha

Re: [arch-general] Ignoring packages and piecemeal updates

2010-03-17 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Denis Kobozev wrote: > Hi archers, > > It has been repeated a lot of times that doing piecemeal updates with > pacman -Sy pkgname is not a very good idea. What about ignoring > packages? Is it as dangerous? > > And a more general question: is it even theoretically

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....

2010-03-15 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Magnus Therning wrote: >> >> 1) what allan said : >> A group could monitor security issues and file bugs to get the devs to >> fix them. > > Is there any evidence that this is actually needed? > No, Allan asked for some numbers, and I am curious too. > My impres

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....

2010-03-15 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Magnus Therning wrote: > After a quick look at it I don't see much that would apply though.  Arch > doesn't have releases.  Arch follows upstream releases very closes (in some > cases even too closely ;-) > > So, if there is no need for backporting to a set of pac

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > > I do not see all reopen requests, but the need to "beg" seems overstated... >  I do know that it is much, much easier to get a bug reopened if the request > is clear and well justified.  A large portion of reopen requests provide no > informa

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> Does anyone have an opinion on this? >> >> In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply >> wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM >> requests in t

Re: [arch-general] what is the procedure when your find an out-of-date package in AUR?

2010-03-11 Thread Xavier Chantry
2010/3/11 David C. Rankin : > On 03/11/2010 09:50 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: >> If all else fails, blame Allan. Oh, and tell the maintainer what failed. >> > > Gotcha! > >        I just posted the new PKGBUILD files as 'comments' to the AUR package > and sent > Chris (the maintainer) an email telling hi

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-03-10 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > > Not really... > > The problem is that pacman does not clean up packages installed as a > dependency for a package that are no longer needed due to an update which > removed that dep. > And by the way, we cannot be 100% sure that the 'no lon

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs => git ?

2010-03-08 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > It seems like this is a "solution" that's looking for a problem to > happen. As far as I know, working with svn isn't a big deal and isn't > a problem. > Just a side-note : I discovered git svn today, it's really a blessing ! I very rarely ha

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs => git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > The only way for this to actually happen would be for someone to set up a > git repo with a handful of packages and demonstrate that it works better > with the usual packaging workflow.  That is what was done with SVN and why > it was chosen wh

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs => git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:14 PM, wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:49:01PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> The only viable solution I could think of is using one git repository >> per package - and that is just crazy. > > I wonder, is it really that crazy ? > > I've been looking into git as a

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs => git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:51:30 +0100 > Stefan Husmann wrote: > >> > 4) users can check out older versions of packages easily, with >> > limited storage overhead. >> Do you want to store binary packages in the git repo? Maybe I >> misundersta

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2010-03-06 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > > I use mutt with a nifty little binding that automagically jumps to the last > blank line in the file when it opens a message for reply :P > -- > Well with mutt you can use a decent text editor which will allow you do that

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2010-03-04 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Denis Kobozev wrote: > > Bottom posting shows its downside only when you recently joined a > mailing list, for example - you start receiving emails from threads > that have been going for a long time and you have no idea what people > are discussing. But if you're

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Versioned dependency fun...

2010-03-02 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Dienstag, 2. März 2010 14:06:57 schrieb Dan McGee: >> > and here we have another reason to punish anybody using versioned >> > dependencies. ;-) (of course upstream needs to be hit, too) >> >> Blaming this on versioned deps is punishing th

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts hack-a-thon?

2010-03-02 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Dienstag, 2. März 2010 09:39:19 schrieb Thomas Bächler: >> Personally, I would like to >> remove everything but basic ethernet support from initscripts (that >> would also include removing wireless, but some people were too strictly >> ag

Re: [arch-general] Archwiki - Installing with fake raid - really chopped up...

2010-02-28 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:57 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > > I don't know who does the wiki editing on the "Installing with Fake RAID" > page, > but a lot of the helpful information was deleted and it has been edited down > to > the point that it is confusing. > You seriously don't know

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.33-1

2010-02-28 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 28/02/10 19:10, Roman Kyrylych wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 16:46, Tobias Powalowski  wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> kernel 2.6.33 first test run ... >> >>> Enjoy have fun and give me feedback, >> >> I have Intel 965GM video and I get

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Samba package sizes

2010-02-27 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: > Dan McGee (2010-02-26 19:09): >> Guys, does anyone else think this is getting out of hand? > <...> >> Seriously, 45 f-ing MB for samba? How can that be possible? > <...> > > Samba is growing up fast. > It is long known upstream ( http:/

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Fwd: FS#17503: [unzip] zsh completion missing for unzip patches

2010-02-26 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Thayer Williams wrote: > > Bumping this for feedback.  7z correctly unzips localized win32 zip > files, but bsdtar/unzip cannot.  Is that good enough to remove the > conflicting win32 patches from unzip? > Links to feature request for adding support to bsdtar / un

Re: [arch-general] powertop vs archlinux vs ubuntu

2010-02-21 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Stefano Z. wrote: > hi > > i've bought a new notebook (hp pavilion dm1-1150sl) and installed > archlinux. > i have see a strange thing with powertop, i'm running the vanilla arch > kernel26, > and i have see this behaviour: > Cn                Avg residency      

Re: [arch-general] Xscreensaver corrupts ext4 / partition

2010-02-21 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote: > > Bad thing it's still kind of unknown how to solve or to work around > it.  Well, the work around is not to use xscreensaver, :-(.   I don't > remember if I can get xlockmore to lock when there's no activity... > Well, I'll have to look int

Re: [arch-general] new libdrm breaks nouveau

2010-02-17 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > > Downgrading libdrm makes X work again. Is this already being worked > on, or should I open a bug? If so, against which package, libdrm or > xf86-video-nouveau? > You need to upgrade and rebuild both xf86-video-nouveau and nouveau-drm. File a

Re: [arch-general] VIM history

2010-02-12 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: >> >> >> Or add the following to .vimrc or /etc/vimrc: >> runtime vimrc_example.vim >> to enable other features that you are probably used to > > Yeah this is a lot better :) > I started by just including it with runtime. But finally I

Re: [arch-general] Error message on mkinitcpio

2010-02-11 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > > I think we may have this fixed in pacman-git, but Nagy or Xavier would > know for sure... > That documentation from man PKGBUILD still applies, I don't think we ever considered it as a bug/problem : replaces (array) An arra

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] package signoffs

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Eric Bélanger wrote: > > One reason that it takes time to get signoffs for certain packages is > that we don't know if enough devs use it to get the required signoff. > For instance, I don't use openvpn. How many devs use openvpn? I don't > know and probably no-one

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 09/02/10 19:50, Xavier Chantry wrote: >> >> Anyway, care to explain what you are rewriting pacman for ? There are >> probably plenty of good reasons to do that, I am just curious to know >> if you have any:) &g

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Arvid Picciani wrote: > > if someone actually posts patches or other constructive stuff, please CC > me. We're rewriting pacman anyway and looking for a solution to handle > this mess in particular. > > Right now the only idea i got is versioned deps which is sort o

Re: [arch-general] KMS again with 2.6.33?

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: > > The point is that it moved to the staging tree now, where further > development will take place. After a while, there won't be an > out-of-tree version anymore because all development happens in the > official kernel git tree. > An example of

Re: [arch-general] KMS again with 2.6.33?

2010-02-08 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 18:52 +0100, Xavier Chantry wrote: >> It seems the question was not only about kms but also about dri2, >> which is needed to get 3d support with kms. >> >> About nouveau, ums was dropped f

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-08 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Jeff Horelick wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I have a suggestion to possibly make rebuilds a bit less painful (or >> non-existant). I think this is a good idea because it seems like right now, >> even before ther

Re: [arch-general] KMS again with 2.6.33?

2010-02-08 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > It will be supported as .33 will ship kms. > Right now .32 supports kms for ati and intel cards, nouveau is optional. > It seems the question was not only about kms but also about dri2, which is needed to get 3d support with kms. About

[arch-general] Eben Moglen's view on mkisofs GPL (non-)compliance

2010-02-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
I also hope this helps somehow. -- Forwarded message -- From: Karl Berry via RT Date: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 1:42 AM Subject: [gnu.org #544172] Fwd: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit To: chantry.xav...@gmail.com Hello Xavier, Eben just sent me this sum

Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

2010-02-02 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Ray Rashif wrote: > > Urmm..if it is so important, Arch gives you the power to roll your own > kernel. Heck, I don't even have a fallback, because I don't need it. > Like Fons, I have an RT kernel, and a normal kernel. Either acts as a > backup of the other, since n

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] exim maintainer wanted

2010-02-01 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 01/02/10 13:08, Allan McRae wrote: >> >> exim has no maintainer and I have been assigned a bug for it as the last >> person to rebuild it (db-4.8 rebuild). I do not use it and have no >> intentions of fixing the bug. Does anybody want to be

Re: [arch-general] core/linux-api-headers?

2010-02-01 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Brendan Long wrote: > Sounds like the real problem is pacman's message then. My suggestion: > change "package x has been replaced by package y" to "package x has been > renamed package y". > fork/alternative != rename The term 'replace' is more general than a ren

Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

2010-02-01 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, ludovic coues wrote: >> >> WAIT WHAT? >> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/kernel26-lts/ >> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/kernel26-lts/ >> > > lts is not for everyday desktop usage. > Who said anything about desktop usage ? It is useful fo

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-29 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Finally some interesting discussion came out of this. I am not an expert on > linux capability support, but Thomas has posted two blog entries about this in > Arch: http://archlinux.me/brain0/2009/07/28/using-posix-capabilities-in-linux- > p

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 11:19 +0100, stefan-husm...@t-online.de wrote: >> Hello, >> >> the only reason I did not move cdrtools to community was that license >> reason.  So if that is no showstopper anymore, I can maintain it. >> >> Regards Stef

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 15:45 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: >>> Just to make it clear: >>> >>> There is not a single claim from a lawyer that confirms the claims >>> from >>> the hostile

[arch-general] PulseAudio

2010-01-26 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > If you want to read up on the different sound components, just do a > google search. There's tons of articles out there, some very good, > mostly a bit crap. Lennart Pottering (dev for Pulse) has a > particularly good one I recall. Most on Arc

Re: [arch-general] Xscreensaver corrupts ext4 / partition

2010-01-25 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Thayer Williams wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Javier Vasquez > wrote: >>  Bad thing that xscreensaver corrupted / so that it couldn't be >> unlocked, and under console there was no way to loging, some misplaced >> inodes or something... >> >> Hard reb

Re: [arch-general] problem with video driver ?

2010-01-25 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM, wrote: > > Meanwhile I installed nouveau. The only difference I notice > is that now the 'visual bell' in xterm has become very slow > as well (to the point of being unusable), also locally. > I suspect you did not install it properly and were running in noaccel

Re: [arch-general] problem with video driver ?

2010-01-24 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:04 AM, wrote: > > It is the 'ssh -X zita2 emacs' that is very slow. > Running emacs locally is perfectly OK. > The previous install was F9, it used nv, and > the same 'ssh -X zita2 emacs' worked perfectly. > Nothing has changed on zita2. > > As far as I can see, the Arch

Re: [arch-general] problem with video driver ?

2010-01-24 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, wrote: > Hello all, > > Today I installed Arch on my desktop which previously had Fedora. > All works well except > >  ssh -X zita2 emacs > > where zita2 is my laptop. > > It works, but it is ex tre me ly slow, I can count > the lines being displayed when scrolli

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Marti Raudsepp wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Steve Holmes > wrote: >> Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse >> chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and >> nobody seems to complain about that concept. >

Re: [arch-general] Re-installing whole system without touching configs.

2010-01-17 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: > > Often times it's the user configuration files that mess up a system, > so keep that in mind unless you're really confident it's all in the > packages themselves. > > And if you're thinking of reinstalling a la pacman -S $(comm -3 > <(pacman -Q