Re: [arch-general] [signoff] dash 0.5.7-1

2011-07-23 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Pierre Schmitz wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:29:15 -0500, Dan McGee wrote: >> Upstream new release. >> >> -Dan > > Imho the base group could be removed as it is not needed by anything. > Its been requested : https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22483 PS. For the filesystem package but relevant: htt

Re: [arch-general] News draft for dropping tcp_wrappers

2011-07-16 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Florian Pritz wrote: > On 16.07.2011 21:09, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Dan McGee wrote: >>> Dropping tcp_wrappers support >>> >>> Due to upstream not having released a new version since April 1997, we= > >>> are dropping `tcp_wrappers` support f

Re: [arch-general] News draft for dropping tcp_wrappers

2011-07-16 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Dan McGee wrote: > Dropping tcp_wrappers support > > Due to upstream not having released a new version since April 1997, we > are dropping `tcp_wrappers` support from all packages and removing the > package from `[core]`. In addition, newer daemons and applications are > inconsistent in their suppo

Re: [arch-general] What happened to mousepad and xfprint?

2011-06-19 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Heiko Baums wrote: > I just wanted to do a system update and saw that mousepad, Xfce's text > editor, and xfprint, Xfce's print dialog and printer manager, have been > removed from [extra] and aren't moved to any other repo or AUR. Both > tools belong to Xfce which is in [extra]. > > What happened

Re: [arch-general] rc.d bash completion

2011-05-18 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Auguste Pop wrote: > i wrote a very simple rc.d bash completion script. is there any chance > it can be used upstream? I noticed earlier theres one for zsh in the AUR as well. I was about to suggest to the author to send it upstream but negelcted to. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49136

Re: [arch-general] Display Manager rc.d scripts

2011-05-09 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Rémy Oudompheng wrote: > On 2011/5/8 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Hello, >> can anyone think of a reason the rc.d scripts are added to kdm, gdm and >> slim? They are not recommended by anyone & they are to be blame for >> occasional weird problems. The standa

Re: [arch-general] Display Manager rc.d scripts

2011-05-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
cantabile wrote: > On 05/08/2011 08:19 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Hello, >> can anyone think of a reason the rc.d scripts are added to kdm, gdm and >> slim? They are not recommended by anyone& they are to be blame for >> occasional weird problems. The standa

Re: [arch-general] Display Manager rc.d scripts

2011-05-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Heiko Baums wrote: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_boot Thats the worst wiki page i've ever seen, on any wiki. -- () against html e-mail | usenet & email communication netiquette /\ www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Re: [arch-general] Display Manager rc.d scripts

2011-05-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Tom Gundersen wrote: > > The specific bug you pointed out is not particular to KDM/GDM/slim, > but should be fixed for all daemons (proper inheritance of LOCALE), > and it is on our TODO list. Indeed, but i didnt point to this report to prove that the rc.d way doesnt work. Its a 10 month old bug r

[arch-general] Display Manager rc.d scripts

2011-05-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Hello, can anyone think of a reason the rc.d scripts are added to kdm, gdm and slim? They are not recommended by anyone & they are to be blame for occasional weird problems. The standard and IMO only way is to start them from inittab. They dont come from upstream & i dont know when they were added,

Re: [arch-general] Drop non-free ?! (Was: Commit in ffmpeg/trunk)

2011-05-07 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Loui Chang wrote: > On Sat 07 May 2011 18:32 +0300, Ionut Biru wrote: >> On 05/07/2011 06:28 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> >Ionut Biru wrote: >> > >> >Is faac support in ffmpeg causing trouble to other applications or was >> >changed for licensing r

[arch-general] Drop non-free ?! (Was: Commit in ffmpeg/trunk)

2011-05-07 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Ionut Biru wrote: > > drop nonfree stuff, fix headers > > Modified: PKGBUILD >=== > --- PKGBUILD 2011-05-07 11:29:11 UTC (rev 122937) > +++ PKGBUILD 2011-05-07 11:51:04 UTC (rev 122938) > @@ -5,26 +5,28 @@ > > -depends=('bzip2' 'la

Re: [arch-general] File conflict between pyqt & python2-qt

2011-05-06 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Dominik Cermak wrote: > > there seems to be a file conflict between the two packages pyqt and > python2-qt > > python2-qt is flagged out of date, so will this be solved once the > package is updated or is this a bug? Its a bug and has already been reported, probably numerous times. Greg Sent via

Re: [arch-general] Hello

2011-05-05 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Thomas S Hatch wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Brandon Jones wrote: > >> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Thomas S Hatch wrote: >> >> > Awesome! Also, bottom post, some people around here will get annoyed :) >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style >> > http://www.caliburn.nl/t

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] cronie-1.4.7-7

2011-05-04 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Gaetan Bisson wrote: > > A new version of cronie is in [testing]. The only difference with the > previous one is that it does not have replaces=('dcron') and has > conflicts=('cron'). > > So users who wish to keep using dcron have nothing to do, but cronie > will be the default cron daemon on new i

Re: [arch-general] pacman "Targets" sort order

2011-05-04 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > >I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I thought the upgrade > "Targets" were sorted alphabetically by name prior to the pacman upgrade a > month or two ago. Now, it looks like they are listed either by repository, > then alphabetized or some other

Re: [arch-general] Pruning the bugtracker

2011-05-04 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
JM wrote: > I have browsed through all High and Medium severity bugreports and > categorized some of them here: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Fijam . > > 'Candidates for closing' are divided into two categories: strong and > weak. Strong candidates have not been replied to in over 4

Re: [arch-general] New file "/etc/rc?"

2011-05-03 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Yaro Kasear wrote: > I'm a tad confused about the purpose of /etc/rc. It says its used for the > control of daemons and starting and stopping them. Does this mean its > replacing the daemons array or something? And with the starting and stopping > of daemons... is this for automation or somethin

Re: [arch-general] What broke?!?!?!?

2011-05-02 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > * Connecting to an openvpn no longer works under > networkmanager/networkmanager-openvpn/nm-applet. Maybe this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24006

Re: [arch-general] Status of dcron

2011-05-01 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Jim Pryor wrote: > v4.5 was released as a tarball at ; > but Paul won't be able to package it right away. > Pierre already built a 4.5 package, which is current in testing http://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/i686/dcron Greg

Re: [arch-general] pacman: -Rd remove with no dependency check changed?

2011-05-01 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Marek Otahal wrote: > On Sunday 01 of May 2011 00:36:40 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Marek Otahal wrote: >> > Oh, thank you very much Jesse! I already started writing a patch to >> > mention the -dd then I read the text carefully.. > >> Don't bother, i

Re: [arch-general] pacman: -Rd remove with no dependency check changed?

2011-04-30 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Marek Otahal wrote: > Oh, thank you very much Jesse! I already started writing a patch to mention > the -dd then I read the text carefully.. Don't bother, its already changed in git. Greg

Re: [arch-general] Myths and reality about cronie

2011-04-22 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Kaiting Chen wrote: > > [...] > Second cronie will in no way `replaces=('dcron')` but will most likely > `conflicts=('dcron')`. Therefore while it will be impossible to install both > on the same system having cronie in [core] will in no way force existing > users to switch. > > [...] > Next it is

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Evangelos Foutras wrote: > On 22/04/11 00:30, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Ionut Biru wrote: >>> if this will happen, the steps are very simple >>> 1) remove dcron from core >>> 2) add cronie/fcron to core in base group and depending on the package, >&

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Kaiting Chen wrote: > On Apr 21, 2011, at 17:30, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > >> Ionut Biru wrote: >>> On 04/22/2011 12:11 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >>>> Ionut Biru wrote: >>>>> On 04/21/2011 02:18 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >>>>>&

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Ionut Biru wrote: > On 04/22/2011 12:11 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Ionut Biru wrote: >>> On 04/21/2011 02:18 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >>>> Am Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:48:04 +0200 >>>> schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase: >>>> >>>>> I secon

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Ionut Biru wrote: > On 04/21/2011 02:18 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:48:04 +0200 >> schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase: >> >>> I second this suggestion. cronie upstream isn't dead at all. cronie >>> is a drop-in unlike fcron which was favored earlier. >> >> Is it such a drop-in like the

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Yaro Kasear wrote: > > I'm still trying to understand WHY we suddenly feel the need to replace dcron > when its not even broken. Replacing packages with other packages purely > because they're new is something Fedora and Ubuntu would do, I though Arch > wasn't about arbitrarily replacing its def

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Kaiting Chen wrote: > > So what's the status here? I pulled cronie into [community-testing] a couple > of days ago and will probably merge it into [community] soon. So that's the > one I vote. > > But regardless of which one we choose in my opinion the sooner we get rid of > dcron the better. --Kai

Re: [arch-general] What are people's opinions about this?

2011-04-15 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:32:02 +0300 >> schrieb Grigorios Bouzakis : >>> this affects only the people using the autocutsel package from >>> [community]. >>> >>

Re: [arch-general] What are people's opinions about this?

2011-04-14 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Heiko Baums wrote: > > Sorry, but I still don't know why I should need autocutsel. The old, X > standard way just works. I never had any problems and I never felt the > need for something different. > > And I really don't want to read tons of documentations about a tool I > don't need. And because

Re: [arch-general] What are people's opinions about this?

2011-04-14 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > Heiko Baums wrote: >> >>> > On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 20:45:32 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >>> >> This feature request: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23747 >>> >> >>> >> Greg >> >> From w

Re: [arch-general] What are people's opinions about this?

2011-04-14 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Heiko Baums wrote: > >> > On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 20:45:32 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> >> This feature request: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23747 >> >> >> >> Greg > > From what I read about it now, definitely not! > > I regul

Re: [arch-general] What are people's opinions about this?

2011-04-13 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 20:45:32 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> This feature request: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23747 >> >> >> Greg > > Is this some sort of configuration utility for Xorg? A little background > would > be

[arch-general] What are people's opinions about this?

2011-04-13 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
This feature request: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23747 Greg

[arch-general] Cross-repository dependencies (was: libre office java support)

2011-04-13 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Heiko Baums wrote: > > And, btw., libreoffice can't depend on jre directly, because libreoffice > is in [extra] and jre is in [community]. > I thought the same too until i saw packages like gnucash which depend on aqbanking which is in community: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/aq

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Allan McRae wrote: > On 09/04/11 00:24, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Nicky726 wrote: >>> >>> If I may add more to this SELinux related thread, I would like to aply for >>> TU >>> and bring SELinux packages to community in the summer, to make using SEL

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Nicky726 wrote: > > If I may add more to this SELinux related thread, I would like to aply for TU > and bring SELinux packages to community in the summer, to make using SELinux > easier. > I dont think thats gonna work since you'll have to provide the same packages as in [core] built differently

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-07 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Kaiting Chen wrote: > > The thing is that cronie is forked from vixie-cron which is much older than > fcron. And I would venture to say that vixie-cron or some derivative is the > default crond for the vast majority of distributions out there. --Kaiting. > Why do you have --disable-anacron in the

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-07 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Thomas S Hatch wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > >> I guess you mean http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/32759 > > Thanks for the link, I did not want to bring up SELinux yet, because I will > not be getting to it for a few

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

2011-04-07 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 18:13:04 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Thomas S Hatch wrote: >> > >> > Yes the systemd topic keeps popping up, right now we don't know >> > if certain upstream changes are going to force Arch into using sy

Re: [arch-general] base stuff (was: Change Arch's default crond)

2011-04-06 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Thomas S Hatch wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > >> Thomas S Hatch wrote: >> > >> > I am saving the "include SELINUX support in base for a latter date" >> > >> > my understanding though is that the stat

[arch-general] base stuff (was: Change Arch's default crond)

2011-04-06 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Thomas S Hatch wrote: > > I am saving the "include SELINUX support in base for a latter date" > > my understanding though is that the stated position of Arch was "no > systemd" s/was/is/g That is also my understanding in regards to selinux. Although i am not familiar with "stated positions" about

Re: [arch-general] deprecate grub (legacy) - opinion?

2011-04-04 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Heiko Baums wrote: > > Not a good idea. Syslinux doesn't work on multiboot systems and grub2 > is not marked as stable as far as I know. > No version of GRUB legacy has ever been marked as stable either. Its been marked as alpha software from its inception, until its deprecation in favour of GRUB2

Re: [arch-general] Removing network utilities from base group?

2011-03-29 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Daniel Isenmann wrote: > Hi, > > I have a feature request (https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22481) since > January which stated that rp-pppoe should be removed from the base > group. Described in the details he stated that every network package > should be removed from the base group and should o

Re: [arch-general] flyspray mailing list

2011-03-28 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Sergej Pupykin wrote: > Hello, > > what about creating mailing list with all flyspray notifications? > > I think it can take off some load from bug wrangler person and may be > usefull for Arch users. > Maybe something like this would help assign bug reports quicker? FWIW i am in favour of such

Re: [arch-general] inefficient handling of bug reports?

2011-03-28 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Angus wrote: > > But a script should be able to take care of this, no? > Doesn't a script solve everything? Here is Arch's customized flyspray: http://projects.archlinux.org/vhosts/bugs.archlinux.org.git >> instead we chose to have some style but not everyone use it. >> >> [packagename] short de

Re: [arch-general] inefficient handling of bug reports?

2011-03-28 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Angus wrote: >> When I file a bug report with the Flyspray web interface, why can't I >> specify the package it concerns? Having that option should make it >> possible for the package maintainers to be immediately and >> automatically notified of the report. >> >> The way it works now seems to be

Re: [arch-general] xorg-font-utils package reorganization

2011-03-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:44 +0100, "Jan de Groot" wrote: > > ttmkfdir is a redhat-specific tool, I haven't seen other distributions > including that. I decided to drop that one. Never seen it elsewhere either. > The fonttosfnt tool is deprecated so I decided to drop that unless someone > might rea

[arch-general] xorg-font-utils package reorganization

2011-03-16 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Hi, the previous xorg-font-utils package included 2 utilities that are not available anymore. fonttosfnt and ttmkfdir2 can not be found as split packages but AFAIK they are not part of any other joint packages either. What happens to them? Will they be available in the future or they're dropped com

Re: [arch-general] extra/progsreiserfs duplicate of core/reiserfsprogs?

2010-12-26 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > >> >> See my comments on https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9029 >> Tpowa must know something we dont and must be using it. >> > > Most likely cause of the reasons mentioned here: > http://bugs.gento

Re: [arch-general] extra/progsreiserfs duplicate of core/reiserfsprogs?

2010-12-26 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > Guillaume ALAUX wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like > extra/progsreiserfs >> (0.3.0.5-5) is an old duplicate of core/reiserfsprogs > (3.6.21-3). >> >> I search for reasons in mail

Re: [arch-general] extra/progsreiserfs duplicate of core/reiserfsprogs?

2010-12-26 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Guillaume ALAUX wrote: > Hello, > > Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like extra/progsreiserfs > (0.3.0.5-5) is an old duplicate of core/reiserfsprogs (3.6.21-3). > > I search for reasons in mailing list archives for having both but found > none. > > Nb: Old extra/progsreiserfs PKGBUILD [

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [announcement] kernel26 2.6.30 announcement draft

2009-06-24 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Andreas Radke schrieb: > >> Just a note. The "early" mkinitcpio way of Intel KMS is broken on my >> gf's system resulting in an instant reboot. "Late" kms way is still >> working. I had to use a rescue disc. >> >> Maybe more user will be af

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [announcement] kernel26 2.6.30 announcement draft

2009-06-23 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Andreas Radke wrote: > Am Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:54:01 +0200 > schrieb Tobias Powalowski : > > > Am Sonntag 21 Juni 2009 schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > > > On Sunday 21 June 2009 22:38:25 Tobias Powalowski wrote: > > > > - added SCHED_DEBUG=y > > > > > > What does this do

Re: [arch-general] AUR Search

2009-06-23 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Andrei Thorp wrote: > Hello there! > > Today, I'd like to be all complainy about the AUR search feature. I > haven't really looked around, but are there plans to improve it? Or is > the solution just "use google with site://"? > > It seems to be kind of bad at find

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Preparing for libjpeg update

2009-06-22 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > And the 2.6 version is old and does not have the arch in the package file > name either...   Good spotting.  I really should fix that! > > Allan There was some request to remove that some time ago in the flyspray as the only 2 packages dependin

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Preparing for libjpeg update

2009-06-22 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: > Allan McRae wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> This weekend should see the release of the first update for libjpeg in >> several years.  Everything remains API compatible so this should be >> just a simple rebuild...  of 130 packages from [extra

Re: [arch-general] vi from testing has gone nuts - does not honor virc/~.virc settings

2009-06-22 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2009 02:36:26 am Allan McRae wrote: >> David C. Rankin wrote: >> > Listmates, Devs: >> > >> >     I upgraded to testing to test the new dmraid. As part of the upgrade, >> > vi >> > was changed in a BIG way. (I could hardl

Re: [arch-general] Holy Cow -- What happened to bash / vi??

2009-06-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:26 AM, David C. Rankin < drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > Listmates, > >I updated to [testing] and now I am having strange behavior from > ... > Any partiular reason you did that? Its likely BOTH vi and bash are to blame as

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [announcement draft] New module-init-tools changes modprobe configuration file location

2009-06-18 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Allan McRae schrieb: > >> Thomas Bächler wrote: >> >>> The new module-init-tools 3.8 package changes the location of the >>> configuration file: /etc/modprobe.conf is no longer read, instead >>> /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf is used. Files w

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] + help needed readline rebuilds

2009-06-18 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Pierre Schmitz > wrote: > > On Thursday 18 June 2009 18:12:05 Aaron Griffin wrote: > >> I'm going to slowly work through these throughout the day, but if > >> someone can help, that'd be great. > >> > >> Let m

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] status of vi/vim in testing

2009-06-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:11, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> No i dont mean symlinking vi to vim. >> Thats not an option. See http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13239#comment39968 >> & downwards. >> I mean building

Re: [arch-general] bash 4.0 / readline 6.0 rebuilds

2009-06-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote: > been using arch for a few months and generally good and current... but > I just noticed that it still hasn't moved to bash 4. I'm wondering > what the status of it is? and where it's being held up (searching the > bugtracker found nothing that

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] status of vi/vim in testing

2009-06-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis > wrote: > > I would be in favour of building a vim package in [core] that includes > both > > a vi & vim binary > > or you mean symlinking vi to vim... wh

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] status of vi/vim in testing

2009-06-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > >> Am Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009 schrieb Allan McRae: >> > Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> > > Hi >> > > just wondered, what is the st

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] status of vi/vim in testing

2009-06-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009 schrieb Allan McRae: > > Tobias Powalowski wrote: > > > Hi > > > just wondered, what is the status of vi/vim in testing, this one blocks > > > archboot from moving to extra, is there any progress of moving it to

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

2009-06-16 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM, David C. Rankin < drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > Pierre Schmitz wrote: > >> On Wednesday 10 June 2009 09:22:55 David C. Rankin wrote: >> >>> Now where can I get 4.3 Beta for Arch? or at least a good >>> howto on how to download the build dependencies need

Re: [arch-general] New 64 bit computer

2009-06-15 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Baho Utot wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 02:57 +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Baho Utot wrote: >> > I am gathering info on this new system >> > >> > I just bought a new computer ($550US

Re: [arch-general] New 64 bit computer

2009-06-15 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Baho Utot wrote: > I am gathering info on this new system > > I just bought a new computer ($550USD complete) as I wanted to go 64 bit > > Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P motherboard > AMD Phenom II X4 810 AM3 socket 2.6G > 8GB High performance DDR3 ram > Radeon HD 4670 > >

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.24 compiling failure

2009-06-14 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
2009/6/14 Papp László : > http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=569145#p569145 > > Angol, német, > spanyol, olasz, francia nyári intenzív nyelvtanfolyamok indulnak június > 22-től a Bonus > Nyelviskolában.http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,

[arch-general] Package groups

2009-06-12 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Is it OK for a package in [community] to be part of a package group? AFAIK package groups dont exist in [community] or if they do they are not the same as the ones in extra. eg. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15053 http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/community/gnome/empathy/PKGBUILD?view=markup&

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] xz-utils and libarchive-2.7.0-2

2009-06-07 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > Roman Kyrylych wrote: >> >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 16:41, Dan McGee wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Pierre Schmitz >>> wrote: >>> Am Sonntag 31 Mai 2009 14:14:48 schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > > If everythin

Re: [arch-general] Next Bug Day - Was : Assigning bugs proposal

2009-06-07 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: >> >> And done all posible renames of tasks to the form "[pkgname] the title". >> Bugtracker now looks much more orderly. and the function "Bug Reports" >> from package view page, works better :) >> In the last week

Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.

2009-05-28 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 01:54:45AM +0200, Johannes Held wrote: > Daenyth Blank : > > I don't really see how this is needed. If a user updates package X > > which he knows is running a daemon, it's not hard to know whether or > > not it should be restarted. We should always assume the user is > > co

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslog-ng build error

2009-05-28 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:53:02AM +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 21:13 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: > > In any way, I would like to know the opinion of the developers. If you > > continue with the current compilation of syslog-ng (mixed) or move to > > a > > fully share

Re: [arch-general] run-parts source URL bad

2009-05-25 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > ==> Making package: run-parts 2.31-1 i686 (Mon May 25 18:31:59 UTC 2009) > ==> Checking Runtime Dependencies... > ==> Checking Buildtime Dependencies... > ==> Retrieving Sources... >  -> Downloading debianutils_2.31.tar.gz... > --2009-05-25 18:3

Re: [arch-general] vi again

2009-05-25 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
ter all vi in core will not be a vim anymore soon, but an nvi. I just started using it yesterday so its not thoroyghly tested. -- Greg # Contributor: Grigorios Bouzakis pkgname=vim pkgver=7.2 _dirver=72 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Vi Improved" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] testing repo clean-up

2009-05-24 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:52:15PM +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Tobias Powalowski schrieb: >> moved in lilo,openvpn,openswan and capi4k-utils to extra > > I'd like to keep openvpn in core. I'd even maintain it, but I use the > openvpn 2.1 release candidates and thus don't test or use the 2.0.X

Re: [arch-general] libdrm stuck at 2.4.9

2009-05-20 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 03:25:37PM +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > Does anyone know why the i686 version of libdrm is stuck at version > 2.4.9 (the x86_64 is up-to-date at 2.4.11)? > http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=libdrm > > I don't mind it much, since I've compiled my own package, but ea

Re: [arch-general] Koffice help won't work in kde3 - Any suggestions?

2009-05-19 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM, David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote: > On or about Tuesday 19 May 2009 at approximately 02:42:40 David C. Rankin, > J.D.,P.E. composed: >> Listmates, >> >>       I installed koffice and attempted to open an openoffice (.odt) document >> and kword crashed immediately.

Re: [arch-general] Xpdf pl3 PKGBUILD

2009-05-18 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:53:10AM -0300, Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto wrote: > PKGBUILD for xpdf pl3 > > [ ]s > There is a bug report for this http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14741 -- Greg pgpC8HAQdO35F.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [arch-general] System Upgrade - networkmanager conflicts with libnetworkmanager

2009-05-15 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:52:13AM -0500, David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote: > Listmates, > > I don't know how to handle this dependency error and I want to make > sure I > don't break my kdemod3 install by replacing libnetworkmanager with > extra/networkmanager. I presume it would be a 1-

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Get notified on website updates

2009-05-15 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:13:09PM +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Hello, > > maybe you are familar with the following problem: > > You want to get notified when there is a new upstream release. The problem is > that not all projects offer rss feeds or an announce mailing list. And if > they >

Re: [arch-general] Bugs again

2009-05-14 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 01:01:30PM -0500, David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote: > On or about Thursday 14 May 2009 at approximately 10:50:28 Thomas Bächler > composed: > > Jan de Groot schrieb: > > > The only valid reason I see for closing a bug as upstream, is when > > > upstream made a decision in t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] LZMA - in or out? ([signoff] libarchive 2.6.0)

2009-05-11 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 08:03:43AM +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 02:06:31 schrieb Dan McGee: > > Yes, of course. I think we can take some time to let it bake, as there > > is not an immediate need, and when 5.0 comes out we can move it to > > core and then rebuild libarch

[arch-general] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] deluge 1.1.5-2

2009-03-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Hugo Doria wrote: > Fixing FS#12071. Added a daemon, a .install and a user and group > > -- Hugo > Why are you sending signoffs for packages in extra? Theres no need to. The same applies to libedit as well.. -- Greg -- Greg

Re: [arch-general] bittorrent cli client

2009-03-20 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Baho Utot wrote: >> >> Can anyone recommend a bittorrent command line client? >> > > http://www.murmeldjur.se/btpd/ > Its in AUR http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.p

Re: [arch-general] bittorrent cli client

2009-03-20 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 18:45, Baho Utot wrote: >> >> Can anyone recommend a bittorrent command line client? > > I like rtorrent > rtorrent is an ncurses client, not a command line one -- Greg

Re: [arch-general] bittorrent cli client

2009-03-20 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Baho Utot wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a bittorrent command line client? > http://www.murmeldjur.se/btpd/ Its in AUR http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8049 Theres also the enhanced ctorrent but its banned in some sites i visit -- Greg

Re: [arch-general] On rolling release system and its benefits.

2009-03-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Grigorios Bouzakis schrieb: >> >> Hi, it has been discussed many times in the past. Bottom line is, if >> you want to do that go ahead, the developers wont help you. Meaning >> this will not be an official projec

Re: [arch-general] On rolling release system and its benefits.

2009-03-17 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Ali H. Caliskan wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using Arch since few months and I enjoy using it everyday that > goes by. However, during that time, while helping Arch users on the forum, > I've encountered some issues concerning upgrades and broken packages. I > perso

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Out-of-date orphans in repo

2009-03-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:29 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> >> We should really drop this hwd stuff. Apparently some howtos still >> recommend using "hwd -xa" to generate xorg.conf, but this command >> will >> generate a bloated configuration f

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Out-of-date orphans in repo

2009-03-08 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Eric Bélanger schrieb: >> >> lshwd: >> Package in the repo is at the latest stable (few years old). There's a >> newer rc release but : do we still need this?  It's still popular >> (25.39 %) though  so I could always update it to the rc rel

Re: [arch-general] xinput in ArchLinux

2009-03-04 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> There's a PKGBUILD in AUR of xinput, but I think it needs to be with >> the other Xorg packages in extra, probably even in the "xorg" group. >> >> xinput is a utillity that can dyna

Re: [arch-general] Wrong keyboard layout in GDM since upgrade

2009-02-26 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:29:36AM +0100, Sébastien Mazy wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:59:09AM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > > Not everyone uses the two major DEs either. > > You are supposed to be able to rollback to previous releases your self > > anyway. Theres

Re: [arch-general] Wrong keyboard layout in GDM since upgrade

2009-02-25 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 08:49:29AM +0100, Sébastien Mazy wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:29:02PM +0100, Sébastien Mazy wrote: > > Since about a week and a recent upgrade which didn't involve gdm, GDM > > has been using the US qwerty > > It's probably related to bug #13188: > http://bugs.archli

Re: [arch-general] new archlinux mirror

2009-02-25 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 06:16:18AM +0100, AlexanderS wrote: > Hi, > I created a new archlinux mirror available under: > http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/ and > ftp://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/ > > It currently syncs (like suggested in the wiki) at 3:00AM. >

Re: [arch-general] xterm and xorg-apps

2009-02-19 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 10:05 -0800, Andrew Przepioski wrote: >> How come xorg-apps is a dependency for xterm? Been a lil' curious for >> awhile and have tried figuring it out, but found nothing so I figured >> I would ask here. > > xorg-apps c

Re: [arch-general] closed bugs, open comments?

2009-02-18 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 04:46:19PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: >>> >>> Which is why I don't submit bug reports anymore. >>> >> >> Instead of +1'ing thi

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