Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] GNOME3 in [testing]

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 04/08/2011 02:11 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Monaco >>  wrote: >>> >>> But I don't like that pulse uses so much CPU and i think it's a major >>> reason why >>> my computer is runn 5-8 degrees C hot

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] GNOME3 in [testing]

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 04/08/2011 02:11 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Monaco >>  wrote: >>> >>> I like having volume control for HDMI out. And I like that this >>> mysterious >>> starving audio, playing silence, glitch h

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> Anyway, I still see nothing wrong with creating SELinux packages and having >> them available in [community], although I would like to see a separate repo >> at least for the start. >> >>

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] GNOME3 in [testing]

On 04/08/2011 02:11 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote: I like having volume control for HDMI out. And I like that this mysterious starving audio, playing silence, glitch has disappeared. But I don't like that pulse uses so much CPU and i think it's a

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 09/04/11 00:53, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > >> Allan McRae wrote: >> >>> On 09/04/11 00:24, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >>> Nicky726 wrote: > > If I may add more to this SELinux related thread, I would like to aply > for

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On 09/04/11 00:53, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Allan McRae wrote: On 09/04/11 00:24, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Nicky726 wrote: If I may add more to this SELinux related thread, I would like to aply for TU and bring SELinux packages to community in the summer, to make using SELinux easier. I

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:08 -0400, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > > > I'd prefer a separate [selinux] repo. So that people know what they are > > doing. > > > > > +1 from a users perspective, the changes in a machine's setup from non-SE to > SE are

Re: [arch-general] miro very slow to start

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:20 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Title says it all > > I installed it today. I even thought it wouldn't start, but it did, eventually > > $ miro --debug > DEBUGGING MODE. > GNU gdb (GDB) 7.2 > Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > License GPLv3+: GNU GPL ve

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > I'd prefer a separate [selinux] repo. So that people know what they are > doing. > > +1 from a users perspective, the changes in a machine's setup from non-SE to SE are non-trivial to the point that a separate repo would make things much easie

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

Am Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:55:16 -0600 schrieb Thomas S Hatch : > Yaro makes many good points, I think that my recommendation would be > to allow someone to maintain support for SELinux in community. If > SELinux support is deemed something that would be a good idea to move > to core in the future than

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Friday, April 08, 2011 05:43:51 Kaiting Chen wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa > wrote: > > > And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux > > > because users should have a choice to us

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Friday, April 08, 2011 05:43:51 Kaiting Chen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > > And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux > > because users should have a choice to use any MAC software they want. > > That's why AppArmor /Tomoyo ar

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

> > So in general what is the benefits / costs for SELinux? > Benefits: Probably the most effective MAC for Linux. Once it runs it's arguably not too hard to allow/deny certain access due to some third party tools simplifying things a bit. You can't deny the NSA-grade security it brings whic

Re: [arch-general] Archiso, archiso_early, and udev issues with live cd

Fixed it. This problem seems to generally mean there is problem with the kernel image. I built my own with mkinitcpio and everything is hunky-dory now :) On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Tom medhurst wrote: > /lib/udev/rules.d/ contains 60-cdrom_id.rules which looks for cdroms and > makes them /

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On 04/06/2011 10:34 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Upstream stability makes sense. If redhat is behind cronie, then that > seems like the logical choice. Why is this logical? Is it the developer what makes a software good or is it the features and the stability? If Redhat's cronie has less features tha

[arch-general] miro very slow to start

Title says it all I installed it today. I even thought it wouldn't start, but it did, eventually $ miro --debug DEBUGGING MODE. GNU gdb (GDB) 7.2 Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later This is free software:

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Nicky726 wrote: > Dne pátek 08 dubna 2011 12:43:51 Kaiting Chen napsal(a): > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa > wrote: > > > And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux > > > because users should have a choice to use

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 08/04/11 07:16, Heiko Baums wrote: > >> But let's try to get objective again. >> > > No need. A new cron for [core] has to pass only one condition... :) > > 1) a developer is willing to maintain it. > > So far that seems to be Thomas and

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:16:46 +0200 > Heiko Baums wrote: > > > On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way > > without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one > > cron daemon, but no need for a default

[arch-general] gnome3

Good day mates. Today I installed gnome3 with "pacman -S gnome-shell testing/gnome" and I'm running it with startx using "exec ck-launch-session gnome-session" on my .xinitrc. I got it working with a recently created user (empty $HOME) but I can't however get it working with my own user, all I get

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

Allan McRae wrote: > On 09/04/11 00:24, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Nicky726 wrote: >>> >>> If I may add more to this SELinux related thread, I would like to aply for >>> TU >>> and bring SELinux packages to community in the summer, to make using SELinux >>> easier. >>> >> >> I dont think thats

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On 09/04/11 00:24, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Nicky726 wrote: If I may add more to this SELinux related thread, I would like to aply for TU and bring SELinux packages to community in the summer, to make using SELinux easier. I dont think thats gonna work since you'll have to provide the same

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

Nicky726 wrote: > > If I may add more to this SELinux related thread, I would like to aply for TU > and bring SELinux packages to community in the summer, to make using SELinux > easier. > I dont think thats gonna work since you'll have to provide the same packages as in [core] built differently

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

Dne pátek 08 dubna 2011 12:43:51 Kaiting Chen napsal(a): > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > > And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux > > because users should have a choice to use any MAC software they want. > > That's why AppArmor /Tomoyo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] GNOME3 in [testing]

On 08/04/11 22:54, Bernardo Barros wrote: Hi guys, Can't pulseaudio be moved to optdepends? No. It is an upstream requirement.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] GNOME3 in [testing]

Hi guys, Can't pulseaudio be moved to optdepends? Best, Bernardo

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > In my opinion, SELinux would be better supported in a user provided repo. > Work with the guy (whose name I can not remember...) who has done an > awesome job getting this all done and into the AUR. > Okay I don't know a thing about SELinux b

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On 08/04/11 07:16, Heiko Baums wrote: But let's try to get objective again. No need. A new cron for [core] has to pass only one condition... :) 1) a developer is willing to maintain it. So far that seems to be Thomas and fcron. Anyway, I recall mention in our bug report of a patch being

Re: [arch-general] Archiso, archiso_early, and udev issues with live cd

/lib/udev/rules.d/ contains 60-cdrom_id.rules which looks for cdroms and makes them /dev/sr#. So I'm guessing it's not seeing the disk that the initrd is loaded from? On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Tom medhurst wrote: > Thanks Heiko! > > That bug contains the same error message, but not sure

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On 08/04/11 20:43, Kaiting Chen wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux because users should have a choice to use any MAC software they want. That's why AppArmor /Tomoyo are nicer solutions cause th

Re: [arch-general] Archiso, archiso_early, and udev issues with live cd

Thanks Heiko! That bug contains the same error message, but not sure it's for the same reason. /dev/sr0 doesn't appear either for me. For clarity, is /dev/disk/by-label/MY_LABEL supposed to point to my installation CD, so isomounts can be loaded? Is that what this is trying to do? I did get a ram

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:45:29 -0400 > Kaiting Chen wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > > wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way > > > > without any further discussions.

Re: [arch-general] Archiso, archiso_early, and udev issues with live cd

Am Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:42:25 +0100 schrieb Tom medhurst : > I'm attempting to create my own Arch Live CD and I can't get the > archiso hook to complete successfully. > > In March 2010, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi removed the archiso_early hook > from archiso.git, which used to mount /dev/archiso (I'm n

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:45:29 -0400 Kaiting Chen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > > > On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way > > > without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one > > > cron daemon, but no need for a

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way > > without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one > > cron daemon, but no need for a default cron daemon. It's pretty the > > same issue as with the boot

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > And on a side note, I don't like archlinux forcing users to use SELinux > because users should have a choice to use any MAC software they want. > That's why AppArmor /Tomoyo are nicer solutions cause they don't require > recompiling of pa

[arch-general] Archiso, archiso_early, and udev issues with live cd

Hi Guys, I'm attempting to create my own Arch Live CD and I can't get the archiso hook to complete successfully. In March 2010, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi removed the archiso_early hook from archiso.git, which used to mount /dev/archiso (I'm not entirely sure what this pointed to, but it's clearly re

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Friday 08 April 2011 09:44:14 Jelle van der Waa wrote: > SELinux would maybe bring extra security too archlinux, but what I don't > see in this thread is how much harder / more bugs it would make for > developers/TU's to package if you use SELinux. Good point. > So in general what is the bene

Re: [arch-general] base stuff

On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 22:31 +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > Thomas S Hatch wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis > > wrote: > > > >> I guess you mean http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/32759 > > > > Thanks for the link, I did not want to bring up SELinux

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:16:46 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way > without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one > cron daemon, but no need for a default cron daemon. It's pretty the > same issue as with the bootloaders. T

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] GNOME3 in [testing]

On 04/08/2011 12:11 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote: >> I like having volume control for HDMI out. And I like that this mysterious >> starving audio, playing silence, glitch has disappeared. But I don't like >> that pulse uses so much CPU and i thin