Re: [arch-general] Fluxbox broken when launched via qingy

2010-12-08 Thread David C. Rankin
On 12/08/2010 09:58 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > Anyone else seeing this and/or have ideas on how to fix? > Sorry DR, I still use kdm to launch flux. Hey, while we are on flux, shoot me a copy of your startup file so I can see how you are doing things on Arch. I have just bandaided my old o

[arch-general] VirtualBox_bin 3.12 - slow system freeze on i686, OK on x86_64

2010-12-08 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, just a heads up for those that use virtualbox_bin from AUR: I experienced a system freeze problem on a dell P4 box with VirtualBox-3.2.12 causing the machine to slowly freeze, become unresponsive, then hardlock. WinXP (guest) starts fine, but then it will freeze, followed by the kde task

Re: [arch-general] State of the Repositories

2010-12-08 Thread Kazuo Teramoto
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:16 PM, keenerd wrote: > Let's make a graph to show how bad it continues to be. > >> expac -S -t '%Y-%m' '%b' $(cat return_one) | sort | uniq -c | sed 's/^ *//' >> > return_one_releases > http://kmkeen.com/tmp/return-one-releases.png > > If packages were actually cleaned

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Armando M. Baratti
Em 08-12-2010 20:32, Jan de Groot escreveu: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 19:47 -0200, Armando M. Baratti wrote: It works because the patents are granted perpetually to OIN members that have jointed before the closing date, even in the case of a sell (like occurred in this case). If Microsoft wants to

Re: [arch-general] State of the Repositories

2010-12-08 Thread Allan McRae
On 09/12/10 10:16, keenerd wrote: Makepkg was fixed in 0.3.4, released on 2010-06-16. What packages have been updated since then? You mean 3.4.0? Anyway, not all "return 1"s are bad as there are some special cases. e.g. there is one in the binutils PKGBUILD in a helper function that generat

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 00:17 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 12/08/2010 11:47 PM, Armando M. Baratti wrote: > > Probably many of you know about the acquisition of 882 of Novell's > > patents by a Microsoft organized consortium [1]. > > > > > > Armando > > stop spreading FUD > The more paranoia and

[arch-general] State of the Repositories

2010-12-08 Thread keenerd
If you have not played with Expac yet, you should! It is a brilliant program. Here is a small example of it in action. Feel free to tease me for the overuse of pipes. > find /var/abs -name 'PKGBUILD' | wc -l 3976 > grep -rc '|| return 1$' /var/abs | cut -d ':' -f 2 | awk '{s+=$1} END {print >

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 19:47 -0200, Armando M. Baratti wrote: > It works because the patents are granted perpetually to OIN members > that > have jointed before the closing date, even in the case of a sell > (like > occurred in this case). If Microsoft wants to get you, they will do so anyways, O

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/08/2010 11:47 PM, Armando M. Baratti wrote: Probably many of you know about the acquisition of 882 of Novell's patents by a Microsoft organized consortium [1]. What you may not know is that, as Novell was part of OIN (Open Invention Network), those that join OIN *before* the closing date f

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > > I could be totally wrong here, but as far as I know "Arch Linux" doesn't > > actually exist as a legal entity. I haven't had time to read the linked > > articles, but if this is the case would it even be possible for us to > join > > t

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 08.12.2010 23:04, Kaiting Chen wrote: > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Armando M. Baratti < > ambaratti.lis...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What you may not know is that, as Novell was part of OIN (Open Invention >> Network), those that join OIN *before* the closing date for the acquisition >> (about

Re: [arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Armando M. Baratti < ambaratti.lis...@gmail.com> wrote: > What you may not know is that, as Novell was part of OIN (Open Invention > Network), those that join OIN *before* the closing date for the acquisition > (about january 23) will be protected from any harassmen

[arch-general] Patent protection

2010-12-08 Thread Armando M. Baratti
Probably many of you know about the acquisition of 882 of Novell's patents by a Microsoft organized consortium [1]. What you may not know is that, as Novell was part of OIN (Open Invention Network), those that join OIN *before* the closing date for the acquisition (about january 23) will be pr

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Mittwoch 08 Dezember 2010 schrieb Heiko Baums: > Am Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:56:24 -0500 > > schrieb Dave Reisner : > > 3) use Archboot, which supports a wider range of packages. > > But Archboot has some other disadvantages. It's not as flexible as > Archiso and doesn't give me as many options as A

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:56:24 -0500 schrieb Dave Reisner : > 3) use Archboot, which supports a wider range of packages. But Archboot has some other disadvantages. It's not as flexible as Archiso and doesn't give me as many options as Archiso, e.g. I can't change or control the cryptsetup options an

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:56:24 -0500 schrieb Dave Reisner : > I highly doubt that this was _ever_ a question of size in the repos. > More likely, It's a matter of time vs. gain for a small number of > volunteers. If you're a user who knows that they want a particular > exotic filesystem that isn't wi

[arch-general] Fluxbox broken when launched via qingy

2010-12-08 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Not sure what happened, but fluxbox seems to be broken when launched via qingy. This used to work fine, and I haven't changed anything in my fb or qingy setups that could account for this. I'm able to launch other WM's via qingy, and am also able to launch FB via other desktop managers (e.g.,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:56:24 -0500 Dave Reisner wrote: > I highly doubt that this was _ever_ a question of size in the repos. > More likely, It's a matter of time vs. gain for a small number of > volunteers. If you're a user who knows that they want a particular > exotic filesystem that isn't wide

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Dave Reisner
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 11:18:20AM -0200, Armando M. Baratti wrote: > Em 08-12-2010 09:57, Heiko Baums escreveu: > >Am Tue, 7 Dec 2010 23:25:06 -0500 > >schrieb Loui Chang: > > > >So those packages are affected: > >e2fsprogs > >reiserfsprogs > >btrfs-progs(-unstable) > >nilfs-utils > >jfsutils > >x

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Armando M. Baratti
Em 08-12-2010 09:57, Heiko Baums escreveu: Am Tue, 7 Dec 2010 23:25:06 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang: So those packages are affected: e2fsprogs reiserfsprogs btrfs-progs(-unstable) nilfs-utils jfsutils xfsprogs nfs-utils package files

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 7 Dec 2010 23:45:50 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang : > Ask Microsoft to support every filesystem in existence on their > standard install CD and core system and maybe us poor Archers with > our limited time and budget can also rise to your stratospheric > expectations. Microsoft has only two fi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 7 Dec 2010 23:25:06 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang : > I'm not so sure about that. There are probably more filesystems than I > can imagine. I wouldn't be too thrilled if all of that was in core. I only mean Linux filesystems which can be used for installing Linux, whether they are or can be us

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-12-08 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:48 -0700, Jeff Cook wrote: > >> > Really please, please don't top post. > >> > http://www.river.com/users/share/etiquette/ > >> > >> Who cares! it takes too long to scroll down through the past fifteen > >> generations to get to the relevant part of the message. > > > > Wel

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-12-08 Thread Peter Lewis
Hey Jeff, Interesting points. On Wednesday 08 December 2010 08:48:07 Jeff Cook wrote: > Whenever I try bottom-posting, my clients complain that I just sent > them a blank email. I think the trick is not to top or bottom post, but to interleave your reply, keeping the relevant parts of the origi

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-12-08 Thread Jeff Cook
>> > Really please, please don't top post. >> > http://www.river.com/users/share/etiquette/ >> >> Who cares! it takes too long to scroll down through the past fifteen >> generations to get to the relevant part of the message. > > Well, it takes me one keystroke. Get a better mail client. Whenever