Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Attila
At Freitag, 12. November 2010 02:26 Alex Matviychuk wrote: > This is from a Linux From Scratch readme here: > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/dcron.txt I would prefer this info: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml Here you can see that dcron is the first option in

Re: [arch-general] python3 thoughts

2010-11-11 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 11/12/10 01:51, Auguste Pop wrote: ... I hope python3 won't die this way, so that all the previous efforts in transition to python3 will not go in vain. Maybe we just took the transitional leap too early when nobody is ready except us. As you note, "nobody is ready except us" -- we are ready

[arch-general] python3 thoughts

2010-11-11 Thread Auguste Pop
Hi, Firstly, I want to state clearly that I am 100% supportive to the python3 transition which took part in Archlinux a month ago. I installed libreoffice from extra today to replace go-openoffice. And all of a sudden, python is no longer required by any package at all. I checked the dependencies

Re: [arch-general] Could python2 be breaking genpkgmetadata.py?

2010-11-11 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 13:46 +0800, Gergely Imreh wrote: > On 12 November 2010 13:32, David C. Rankin > wrote: > > Guys, > > > >I'm using yum-createrepo 0.9.8-3 on from AUR and suddenly my > > createrepo updates > > on my Arch server are failing with the following error: > > > > 23:22 nirv

Re: [arch-general] Could python2 be breaking genpkgmetadata.py?

2010-11-11 Thread Gergely Imreh
On 12 November 2010 13:32, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > >        I'm using yum-createrepo 0.9.8-3 on from AUR and suddenly my > createrepo updates > on my Arch server are failing with the following error: > > 23:22 nirvana:/home/backup/rpms> sudo createrepo --update -d openSUSE_11.3/ >  File

[arch-general] Could python2 be breaking genpkgmetadata.py?

2010-11-11 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, I'm using yum-createrepo 0.9.8-3 on from AUR and suddenly my createrepo updates on my Arch server are failing with the following error: 23:22 nirvana:/home/backup/rpms> sudo createrepo --update -d openSUSE_11.3/ File "/usr/share/createrepo/genpkgmetadata.py", line 189 print t

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:10:12 +0900 schrieb Alex Matviychuk : > I agree, however, it sounds a bit odd to say that we should replace a > simple package with a more complicated one in the hope the more > complicated one will screw us over less going forward. We're just as > bound to the idiosyncrasie

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Alex Matviychuk
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 13:10, Alex Matviychuk wrote: > For such a crucial system package it would seem wise to deal with the > devil that's easier to understand (in theory, I don't claim to > understand the internals of e. That should read: For such a crucial system package it would seem wise t

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Alex Matviychuk
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:57, Loui Chang wrote: > The only problem is finding someone who can do the work to maintain > dcron. It's pretty damning to have a scheduler that can't schedule > properly installed by default - that's what people seem to be concerned > about mostly. I'd like to keep the

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 11/11/10 20:26, Alex Matviychuk wrote: Thanks to this thread I decided to look at both dcron and fcron. First google result for dcron led me to this: (As Loui noted, many of those points are changed by the passage of seven years. Distros probably use different crons now; and fcron has impro

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 12 Nov 2010 10:26 +0900, Alex Matviychuk wrote: > Thanks to this thread I decided to look at both dcron and fcron. First > google result for dcron led me to this: > > This is from a Linux From Scratch readme here: > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/dcron.txt Nice. The g

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Alex Matviychuk
Thanks to this thread I decided to look at both dcron and fcron. First google result for dcron led me to this: 1 Why use dcron when there's fcron? --- - dcron is SIMPLE: dcron just gives you two binaries, crond and crontab, and consists only of a few

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 11.11.2010 23:50, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 16:31 -0500, Leonid Isaev wrote: >> Not only this, but also the fact that now there are 2 crons being maintained: >> fcron in community and dcron in core. Removing dcron to, say, AUR, will be a >> wiser use of devs' time... > Bottom-post

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 16:31 -0500, Leonid Isaev wrote: > Not only this, but also the fact that now there are 2 crons being maintained: > fcron in community and dcron in core. Removing dcron to, say, AUR, will be a > wiser use of devs' time... Bottom-posting please. And I don't see a problem with t

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Leonid Isaev
Not only this, but also the fact that now there are 2 crons being maintained: fcron in community and dcron in core. Removing dcron to, say, AUR, will be a wiser use of devs' time... On (11/11/10 21:35), Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: -~> On 11.11.2010 21:15, Attila wrote: -~> The way I see it we at lea

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 11.11.2010 21:15, Attila wrote: > At Donnerstag, 11. November 2010 20:16 Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > >> So, not a mail since a while. Can we replace dcron now? :) > What i don't understand is this "replace" here because fcron (or incron) is > only > one "pacman -S" away. And i say this as

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Attila
At Donnerstag, 11. November 2010 20:16 Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > So, not a mail since a while. Can we replace dcron now? :) What i don't understand is this "replace" here because fcron (or incron) is only one "pacman -S" away. And i say this as an fcron user. :) See you, Attila

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-11 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 09.11.2010 11:47, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > FWIW: > I've gone through the archives and found multiple threads about our > cron discussions. > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2009-September/ > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-January > (esp. > htt