[arch-general] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4

2010-03-12 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
Hi, Just wanted to share an interesting experience I had today. Check http://ghodechhap.net/btrfs.performance.txt -- Regards Shridhar

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:22:35 -0500 schrieb Robert Howard : > What do other distros do on their bugtrackers? We should allow > comments after closing to facilitate further user input. Lets not > forget that Arch Linux would not be in it's current state without > user/dev interaction. I used Gentoo

Re: [arch-general] gbd missing from extra?

2010-03-12 Thread richard terry
On Saturday 13 March 2010 12:20:43 you wrote: > Typo? > your subject on the mail states you searched for gbd instead of gdb > maybe? > > -T > > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, richard terry wrote: > > couldn't retreive the gnu debugger from pacman -S gdb, and looking in the > > extra repo it didn't se

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Robert Howard
What do other distros do on their bugtrackers? We should allow comments after closing to facilitate further user input. Lets not forget that Arch Linux would not be in it's current state without user/dev interaction. On Mar 12, 2010 7:19 PM, "Heiko Baums" wrote: Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +100

Re: [arch-general] gbd missing from extra?

2010-03-12 Thread Tobias Kieslich
Typo? your subject on the mail states you searched for gbd instead of gdb maybe? -T On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, richard terry wrote: > couldn't retreive the gnu debugger from pacman -S gdb, and looking in the > extra repo it didn't seem to be present. > > any reason? > > Richard

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > I really do not see the need. > > If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen. > If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... > we already closed the bug report. > If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > So you wanted to add a comment totally unrelated to the bug itself to > the bug? Isn't that polluting the bug report? What happened here is > exactly what I'd expect - you contacted the developer. No, this is related to the bug, because

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:38:36 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > Not at all. It is statistics. For a long time before the bug > wranglers, I personally had to deal with 75% of the Project Manager > requests from flyspray. These were all reopen requests, and many of > them arguing with the actual choic

Re: [arch-general] gbd missing from extra?

2010-03-12 Thread Allan McRae
On 13/03/10 09:55, richard terry wrote: couldn't retreive the gnu debugger from pacman -S gdb, and looking in the extra repo it didn't seem to be present. any reason? It is definitely there. "pacman -Syy" may help and if not change your mirror and do it again. Allan

Re: [arch-general] gbd missing from extra?

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:55 PM, richard terry wrote: > couldn't retreive the gnu debugger from pacman -S gdb, and looking in the > extra repo it didn't seem to be present. > > any reason? https://dev.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/gdb/ It's in extra. Perhaps your mirror is broken?

[arch-general] gbd missing from extra?

2010-03-12 Thread richard terry
couldn't retreive the gnu debugger from pacman -S gdb, and looking in the extra repo it didn't seem to be present. any reason? Richard

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Isaac Dupree wrote: > On 03/12/10 10:34, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want >> commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the >> developers - give reasons why the bug shouldn't be closed. That's

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > So closing a bug becomes 1) remove yourself from > assignees, 2) remove from notification, 3) close bug. This is what worries me the most. If comments on old bugs are allowed, this will become the norm.

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 03/12/10 10:34, Aaron Griffin wrote: More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the developers - give reasons why the bug shouldn't be closed. That's what a reopen request is for. If that fails, then it's time to di

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Allan McRae
On 13/03/10 09:13, Xavier Chantry wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on this? In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal w

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> Does anyone have an opinion on this? >> >> In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply >> wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM >> requests in t

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 12.03.2010 20:35, schrieb Aaron Griffin: >> Well it *is* one command from a git checkout >> >> cd install-iso >> make > > Let's make that 2: > > # pacman -S archiso > # archiso-build-cd --arch i686 --format iso This is just too complex t

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.03.2010 20:35, schrieb Aaron Griffin: > Well it *is* one command from a git checkout > > cd install-iso > make Let's make that 2: # pacman -S archiso # archiso-build-cd --arch i686 --format iso or something like that :) We have an archiso package from 2008 in extra. Any package is better

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want >> commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the >> developers > > assuming malicious users up-front? Not at all. It is statistics. For a long time before

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. > > Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. > Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs Well damn, looks like I was looking too high up.

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Dan McGee wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs More-over, I think it is a bad

Re: [arch-general] Where to install python apps: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/xyz??

2010-03-12 Thread fons
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:06:59PM +0100, Øyvind Heggstad wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:27:25 -0600 > "David C. Rankin" wrote: > > > Guy, > > > > I know nothing about python other than what it is. I need to > > install repoview-0.6.5 on my arch server, but I'm not sure where. > > Looking a

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dan McGee
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. > > Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. > Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs > >> More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people w

Re: [arch-general] Where to install python apps: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/xyz??

2010-03-12 Thread Øyvind Heggstad
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:27:25 -0600 "David C. Rankin" wrote: > Guy, > > I know nothing about python other than what it is. I need to > install repoview-0.6.5 on my arch server, but I'm not sure where. > Looking at the other python apps like cairo, FusionIcon, etc.. thay > seem to be install

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Damjan Georgievski
> Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs > More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want > commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the >

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 12 Mar 2010 14:11 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > On Fri 12 Mar 2010 13:28 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > >> > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why >

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Fri 12 Mar 2010 13:28 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why >> > a bug is reported even if it's invalid. >> >> Seriously, p

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 12 Mar 2010 13:28 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why > > a bug is reported even if it's invalid. > > Seriously, present some examples here, this talking in the abstract is

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 12 Mar 2010 09:34 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. > > More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want > commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the > developers - give reasons why the bug shouldn't be close

[arch-general] LTS kernel still boots but MPPC patched one does not after manual updates

2010-03-12 Thread Nigel Henry
Big problemo. Wanting to get access to my sons MS vpn server which needs MPPC, I found and installed an MPPC patched kernel26, and MPPC patched ppp. No problems so far, and both the LTS, and the MPPC patched kernels booted with no problems. My Arch install hadn't been updated since 20090928, an

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 12.03.2010 16:37, schrieb Aaron Griffin: >>> Using the core installing then just upgrading kernel26 and >>> kernel26-firmware to 2.6.33 worked just in case anyone was wondering. >>> Got networking up finally :) >> >> Yeah, I was going to

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dan McGee
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why > a bug is reported even if it's invalid. Seriously, present some examples here, this talking in the abstract is stupid. We're all grown ups, no one is going to have the

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:34:01 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. Commenting on closed bugs isn't necessary. This is a matter of taste. Some bug trackers allow this, some not. > More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want > com

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Hi, On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Aaron Griffin wrote: Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. I didn't know it, thanks for the info! So I guess every argument from now on is just for the sake of completion... More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want commenting o

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 12.03.2010 16:48, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 12.03.2010 16:37, schrieb Aaron Griffin: > >>> Using the core installing then just upgrading kernel26 and >>> kernel26-firmware to 2.6.33 worked just in case anyone was wondering. >>> Got networking up finally :) >>> >> Yeah, I was going to

Re: [arch-general] security

2010-03-12 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gordon Campbell wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for all your advice. So far I am enjoying my experience with Arch > Linux since I changed my Distro over from Fedora about a month ago. Just one more opinion, it can't hurt :) I myself don't need a firewall beyond my route

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.03.2010 16:37, schrieb Aaron Griffin: >> Using the core installing then just upgrading kernel26 and >> kernel26-firmware to 2.6.33 worked just in case anyone was wondering. >> Got networking up finally :) > > Yeah, I was going to suggest just pulling the kernel updates onto a > thumb drive o

Re: [arch-general] security

2010-03-12 Thread Gordon Campbell
Hi, Thanks for all your advice. So far I am enjoying my experience with Arch Linux since I changed my Distro over from Fedora about a month ago. Gordy

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Damien Churchill wrote: > On 12 March 2010 13:19, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:57:46 -0600 >> Dan McGee wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dieter Plaetinck >>> wrote: >>> > you could also try a netinstall cd and enable the testin

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:58:12 -0600 > schrieb Aaron Griffin : > >> This sounds like throwing technology at a problem that basically boils >> down to a communication issue. >> >> Without specific examples, this isn't going to go anywhere, really.

Re: [arch-general] Security

2010-03-12 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 03/12/2010 05:22 AM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: If you run one of the fat desktops (KDE, Gnome) they will have a GUI tool to configure iptables. FYI - I've found firestarter to be a good, simple one for small home network use. DR

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Damien Churchill
On 12 March 2010 13:19, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:57:46 -0600 > Dan McGee wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dieter Plaetinck >> wrote: >> > you could also try a netinstall cd and enable the testing repository >> > in /tmp/pacman.conf.  IIRC aif (the installer) u

Re: [arch-general] Security

2010-03-12 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Friday 12 March 2010 19:26:13 Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:49:17 - > > schrieb "Gordon Campbell" : > > I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is do > > I need to install a firewall? if so which one? ufw is a good iptables frontend. Pretty easy to se

Re: [arch-general] Security

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:49:17 - schrieb "Gordon Campbell" : > I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is do > I need to install a firewall? if so which one? > > Thanks in advance, Here's a good iptables tutorial with some good example firewall scripts: http://www.froze

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:57:46 -0600 Dan McGee wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > you could also try a netinstall cd and enable the testing repository > > in /tmp/pacman.conf.  IIRC aif (the installer) uses pacman with that > > config file, so it might just wor

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dan McGee
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > you could also try a netinstall cd and enable the testing repository > in /tmp/pacman.conf.  IIRC aif (the installer) uses pacman with that > config file, so it might just work, although i never tried it myself. > if you are not afraid of

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:17:07 + Damien Churchill wrote: > On 12 March 2010 12:14, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > you can also build your own iso's using archiso. > > it's pretty easy, although you need archiso from git and you must > > let it look in a repository that contains a 2.6.33 package (

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:49:36 + Damien Churchill wrote: > On 12 March 2010 10:56, Damien Churchill wrote: > > On 12 March 2010 10:54, Ionut Biru wrote: > >> > >> On 03/12/2010 12:51 PM, Damien Churchill wrote: > >>> > >>> I was just wondering if there are there any up to date > >>> instructi

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Damien Churchill
On 12 March 2010 10:56, Damien Churchill wrote: > On 12 March 2010 10:54, Ionut Biru wrote: >> >> On 03/12/2010 12:51 PM, Damien Churchill wrote: >>> >>> I was just wondering if there are there any up to date instructions >>> available for customising the arch installer? I only need to upgrade th

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Damien Churchill
On 12 March 2010 10:54, Ionut Biru wrote: > > On 03/12/2010 12:51 PM, Damien Churchill wrote: >> >> I was just wondering if there are there any up to date instructions >> available for customising the arch installer? I only need to upgrade the >> kernel to 2.6.32 in order to install (at least that

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Ionut Biru
On 03/12/2010 12:51 PM, Damien Churchill wrote: I was just wondering if there are there any up to date instructions available for customising the arch installer? I only need to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.32 in order to install (at least that is the first problem I have encountered). Thanks in adv

[arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Damien Churchill
I was just wondering if there are there any up to date instructions available for customising the arch installer? I only need to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.32 in order to install (at least that is the first problem I have encountered). Thanks in advance, Damien

Re: [arch-general] Security

2010-03-12 Thread fons
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 09:49:17AM -, Gordon Campbell wrote: > Hi all, > > I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is > do I need to install a firewall? if so which one? In Linux the actual firewall is part of the kernel, you just need to activate and configure it. Act

Re: [arch-general] Security

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 12.03.2010 10:49, schrieb Gordon Campbell: > Hi all, > > I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is do I > need to install a firewall? if so which one? > > Thanks in advance, > > Gordy You probably don't, but here is a link to some nice instructions for setting one up

Re: [arch-general] Security

2010-03-12 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Gordon Campbell wrote: > Hi all, > > I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is do I need > to install a firewall? if so which one? > > Thanks in advance, > > Gordy For a home computer you don't need to have a firewall installed, since you

[arch-general] Security

2010-03-12 Thread Gordon Campbell
Hi all, I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is do I need to install a firewall? if so which one? Thanks in advance, Gordy

Re: [arch-general] Update register/log

2010-03-12 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Manne Merak wrote: > Is there a register or log that lists the history of package updates. > I need to know what versions of encfs and openssl were updated and when. > I am still unable to mount my 1.5 year old volume because of broken encfs > and openssl update.

[arch-general] Update register/log

2010-03-12 Thread Manne Merak
Is there a register or log that lists the history of package updates. I need to know what versions of encfs and openssl were updated and when. I am still unable to mount my 1.5 year old volume because of broken encfs and openssl update. (I did read all the bug reports associated with this, they r

[arch-general] pdftk - almost build but died - need help figuring out if I can find a work-around

2010-03-12 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, I need pdftk for a script I use that does fax processing. I ran into this problem 6-7 months ago, but still had another server with pdftk on it so it wasn't critical. Now, I need to solve it. Currently pdftk in AUR is out of date due to it a dependency of gcc-gcj requiring