Re: [arch-general] Must i do the toolchain update or can i wait

2009-05-06 Thread Attila
On Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 23:25 Jan de Groot wrote: > gcc 4.4 is ABI compatible with 4.3 binaries, so this means you can > compile and run software with 4.4 against libraries that were compiled > against 4.3 without noticable problems. It appears you can load kernel > modules compiled with 4.4 into

Re: [arch-general] The ultimate Home Theater / media center computer

2009-05-06 Thread Marq Schneider
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 14:33, RedShift wrote: > > With those goals set, I started looking for hardware. Here's what I've come > up with: > > * Case: Silverstone LC19 > http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_spec.php?pno=lc19&area=usa > > + Fanless PSU. > + Casefans can be removed > + Comes with

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 15:40 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > > Le Wed, 6 May 2009 14:53:43 -0500, > > Aaron Griffin a écrit : > > > >> Might be worth seeing if we can find a patch to fix the crash at least. > > > > Patching might be a good idea

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] file-5.01

2009-05-06 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
Eric Bélanger wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > >> Upstream bug fix release. >> >> > > file 5.02 is out. > > And now 5.03 :) -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39

Re: [arch-general] Must i do the toolchain update or can i wait

2009-05-06 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:50 +0200, Attila wrote: > On Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 22:07 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > > > At least gcc-libs of 4.4 is not compatible with the one from 4.3. So some > > apps mght stop working when compiled with 4.4 and running on a system with > > 4.3. > > Hmm, than the update

Re: [arch-general] Must i do the toolchain update or can i wait

2009-05-06 Thread Attila
On Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 22:07 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > At least gcc-libs of 4.4 is not compatible with the one from 4.3. So some > apps mght stop working when compiled with 4.4 and running on a system with > 4.3. Hmm, than the update is more a must than a "could be", thanks for the info. > So yo

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > Le Wed, 6 May 2009 14:53:43 -0500, > Aaron Griffin a écrit : > >> Might be worth seeing if we can find a patch to fix the crash at least. > > Patching might be a good idea, but if you just patch the crash I think it > will still be even mor

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Pierre Chapuis
Le Wed, 6 May 2009 14:53:43 -0500, Aaron Griffin a écrit : > Might be worth seeing if we can find a patch to fix the crash at least. Patching might be a good idea, but if you just patch the crash I think it will still be even more dangerous to put this version of vi in core because of the beha

Re: [arch-general] Must i do the toolchain update or can i wait

2009-05-06 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 20:41:57 schrieb Attila: > My next question > is that i want to know if this will be enough or should i block more > packages? At least gcc-libs of 4.4 is not compatible with the one from 4.3. So some apps mght stop working when compiled with 4.4 and running on a system w

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM, André Ramaciotti wrote: > At least here, vi can open non-ASCII files, but as I said previously, > it won't show the lines with non-ASCII characters. The worst thing is > if you try to save this file, vi will save it only up to the first > line with a non-ASCII chara

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread André Ramaciotti
At least here, vi can open non-ASCII files, but as I said previously, it won't show the lines with non-ASCII characters. The worst thing is if you try to save this file, vi will save it only up to the first line with a non-ASCII character: $ cat test.txt This line is fine mas essa não (but this on

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
2009/5/6 Frédéric Perrin : > I have a system whose users' real names can't be written in ASCII, and > this being the 21st century, not the 70's, I have the real name (with > accents) in the GECOS field in /etc/passwd. Not being a vi{,m} user, I > just have whatever the default package for vi is ins

[arch-general] Must i do the toolchain update or can i wait

2009-05-06 Thread Attila
Hello together, my question is about that if the toolchain update comes do i have to do it to get no problems with the rest of my system or can i wait if i find patches or hints to solve possible problems with my own packages? For the case that i can wait i will block the upgrade of this packages

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread tobias
Hi, that can be done, sure, however I don't like the idea of having an extra package conflict with a core one. We could name the package nvi, call the binaries nvi and provide a symlink that gets replace on installing vim but all this symlinking stuff has proved itself to be error prone.

Re: [arch-general] kde control center "Use my KDE style in GTK applications" causes ooo buttons to disappear

2009-05-06 Thread Charly Ghislain
Guys. To avoid the problem with openoffice, just be sure you environement variable OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP is set to gnome: in ~/.bashrc: export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome personnaly, this fixed the problem with older versions, now i see there's a ~/etc/profile.d/openoffice-beta.sh that does just tha

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Frédéric Perrin
Le Mercredi 6 à 13:07, Jan de Groot a écrit : > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:54 -0300, André Ramaciotti wrote: >> Just a question about this new vi package. Am I the only one having >> problems when openning UTF-8 files? I can't even type words with >> diacritics or vi will abort. For example, try to c

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread ludovic coues
> cover the users who USE and EXPECT 'vim' but still type 'vi' (sigh) couldn't we suggest them to make an alias ?

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Thomas Bohn wrote: > On 2009-05-05 19:20 +0200, tob...@justdreams.de wrote: > >> the current vi package is actually nvi, the purpose of that was to have a >> smaller package for core that also would not stall any updates of >> vim/gvim while vi sits in testing. > >

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread André Ramaciotti
I was thinking more about the installation/recuperation process than the daily usage, because it's not always possible to install vim in such cases. That's why I was questioning only vi being in [core], though having vim in [core] would add lots of dependencies, so I guess it's better the way it is

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:54 -0300, André Ramaciotti wrote: > Hi, > > Just a question about this new vi package. Am I the only one having > problems when openning UTF-8 files? I can't even type words with > diacritics or vi will abort. For example, try to create a file with > the following and then

Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention

2009-05-06 Thread André Ramaciotti
Hi, Just a question about this new vi package. Am I the only one having problems when openning UTF-8 files? I can't even type words with diacritics or vi will abort. For example, try to create a file with the following and then open it with the new vi package: This line will render fine Mas essa