[gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase memory modules question

2005-05-28 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joh=E1m-Lu=EDs_Migu=E9ns?= Vila
Hi.

I have to choose between:

- Purchase 1GB DDR400 (2x512MB) value RAM.
- Purchase 512M DDR400 (2x256MB) good CL2 RAM.

It's for a home machine (A7N8X-Deluxe MB, Athlon XP 2600+)...  Sometimes
i have to use vmware.

Thanks in advance, cheers.

[sinatura] A ouvir (mpc): The Smashing Pumpkins - Where Boys Fear to
Tread >>> GPG KeyID:0x9D2FD6C8 [\sinatura]


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part


Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase memory modules question

2005-05-28 Thread Andreas Karlsson
On Saturday 28 May 2005 10.17, Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have to choose between:
>
> - Purchase 1GB DDR400 (2x512MB) value RAM.
> - Purchase 512M DDR400 (2x256MB) good CL2 RAM.
>
> It's for a home machine (A7N8X-Deluxe MB, Athlon XP 2600+)...  Sometimes
> i have to use vmware.
>
> Thanks in advance, cheers.
>
> [sinatura] A ouvir (mpc): The Smashing Pumpkins - Where Boys Fear to
> Tread >>> GPG KeyID:0x9D2FD6C8 [\sinatura]

I´d go for the 1 GB anyday. And the chooise get even more obvious when you 
want to use vmware. 

Best regards,
Andreas Karlsson


pgphcmQIogbTa.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] Online backups...

2005-05-28 Thread W

On 24/05/05 13:58:02, Steve [Gentoo] wrote:
I admit that this is a pretty generic idea... but I hope no-one sees  
harm in me asking about it here... I plan to do this with gentoo...  
so if someone else has had a similar plan... maybe they could offer  
me the benefit of their wisdom :-)


Assumptions:
   1.   There are two Linux Hosts connected to the internet by ADSL  
(512/256Kbps) and that for, say, 6 hours each night this bandwidth is  
mostly unused.
   2.   Each Linux Host has under 1GB of "current" files - and under  
100Mb of this changes each day on each host.
   3.   The (different) administrators of each host do not want to  
take responsibility for keeping the others' data secret, and neither  
wants the responsibility of having access to the other's files.

   4.   A daily backup is desired by the administrator of each host.


I've been trialling a similar project myself at work recently.  At the  
moment I have it working to one remote site, and - if I can get some  
boxes to act as backup hosts - I'm planning to roll it out to keep a  
backup of all of our sites at each site, which will give us 3 offsite  
copies of each site's data files.  Our hosts are a mixture of SuSE,  
WinNT and WinXP, but all the packages I've used are in portage (the  
Windows hosts use Cygwin) - in fact, I wouldn't have thought of it if I  
wasn't a Gentoo user, and I'm going to use Gentoo if I do start rolling  
out to dedicated backup hosts.


We'd already set up a VPN over ADSL to the one remote site that didn't  
already have a private data link, using net-misc/vtun.  The backups are  
then done using rsync over the tunnelled connection, which makes sure  
that only changes are transmitted.  In practice, running over a 256  
kbit connection, we can update the daily changes to a 128Mbyte file in  
about 30 seconds.


This solution doesn't cover encryption of the on-disk backup, but vtun  
does encrypt the data passing over the VPN, and also lets you limit the  
bandwidth used by the VPN tunnel.  Backup encryption could always be  
handled by an encrypted loopback FS on the backup host, I guess.  It  
also doesn't give you any management of backup disk size.  Hopefully  
it's a good starting point for you to think about, though.




--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Software suspend

2005-05-28 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 20:14 +0200, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 27 May 2005 10:51:21 -0700
> Pingveno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I just remerged hibernate-script and ran it (after saving everything :P 
> > ). The one problem: I have to shut down X11 because the nvidia driver 
> > has to be unloaded before hibernation is started. This is, of course, 
> > with software suspend (vs. software suspend 2). Does SS2 contain a 
> > workaround that would be worth the upgrade?
> 
> Did you try to enable just switching to console before hibernating?
> There's a configuration entry in hibernate.conf (at the bottom).
> 

You may have some issues with this. I'm not sure. Go to the suspend2
website and check it out a bit on nvidia.

I'm sure someone has gotten it worked out.

> I found all suspend implementations being very similar (with the
> exception of ACPI standby, which works only in "light" mode - S3 - for
> me). So I'd guess it won't work much better with SS2.

on The contrary. It's much faster (very Much faster! ~30 secs for
writing up to 1.5GB of RAM to disk)

Also it's much more stable compared to normal suspend.

PS: Check out the mag. 

> 
> HWH

-- 
Ow Mun Heng
Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM
98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! 
Neuromancer 17:58:27 up 9:43, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.30, 0.70 


-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Software suspend + Nvidia

2005-05-28 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 17:58 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 20:14 +0200, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Fri, 27 May 2005 10:51:21 -0700
> > Pingveno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 

Check the attached email out.

-- 
Ow Mun Heng
Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM
98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! 
Neuromancer 18:01:06 up 9:46, 4 users, load average: 0.40, 0.31, 0.63 

--- Begin Message ---
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 09:36:17AM -0500, Pat Double wrote:
> > Does the appearance of the nvdia module as unsuspendable in
> > blacklisted-modules mean that I am stuffed as far as suspending is
> > concerned?  Is there any way around this, or do I just give up now?
> 
> [...]
> You may need to comment out the blacklisted-module entry for
> nvidia for the script to continue suspending.

Or just comment out the "UnloadBlacklistedModules yes" line in
hibernate.conf. The blacklist is used as a blanket catch-all list -
if there's anecdotal evidence that it causes suspending or resuming
to fail, it joins the list until proven innocent. That way people
that want it to "just work" can get a useful error rather than an
ambiguous hang :)

That said, some of the modules there, (such as nVidia) have
potential workarounds -
http://wiki.suspend2.net/DistroAndHardwareSetup/Nvidia is a good
starting point. Though I haven't heard of anybody that has it working
with 2.6.11 yet. The free driver I believe works fine though, but
the tradeoff is 3D acceleration.

Bernard.

-- 
 Bernard Blackham 

___
Suspend2-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.suspend2.net/mailman/listinfo/suspend2-users

--- End Message ---


Re: [gentoo-user] grub misfires?

2005-05-28 Thread Richard Fish
Richard Price wrote:

>New to the list, but here goes -
>
>try:
>
>mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/gentoo
>mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
>mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo/boot
>
>  
>

Welcome to the list.  You are correct...the problem is that hda2 should
be mounted at /mnt/gentoo/boot before chroot'ing into it.  I would add
one more step, which is to move the files from /boot on the root
filesystem to the /boot filesystem

mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/hda2 /boot
mv /mnt/gentoo/boot/* /boot
umount /boot
mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo/boot
cd /mnt/gentoo
chroot ./ ./bin/bash
# do some stuff, run gub, etc

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase memory modules question

2005-05-28 Thread Richard Fish
Andreas Karlsson wrote:

>On Saturday 28 May 2005 10.17, Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi.
>>
>>I have to choose between:
>>
>>- Purchase 1GB DDR400 (2x512MB) value RAM.
>>- Purchase 512M DDR400 (2x256MB) good CL2 RAM.
>>
>>It's for a home machine (A7N8X-Deluxe MB, Athlon XP 2600+)...  Sometimes
>>i have to use vmware.
>>
>>Thanks in advance, cheers.
>>
>>[sinatura] A ouvir (mpc): The Smashing Pumpkins - Where Boys Fear to
>>Tread >>> GPG KeyID:0x9D2FD6C8 [\sinatura]
>>
>>
>
>I´d go for the 1 GB anyday. And the chooise get even more obvious when you 
>want to use vmware. 
>  
>

I agree.  The system will peform better overall with more RAM, because
even though the "fast" RAM might be 10% faster, your hard-disk is 100x
slower, so you really want to avoid swapping at all.

You might be interested in a recent review of 'value' DDR400 memory at
anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2392

-Richard

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase memory modules question

2005-05-28 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joh=E1m-Lu=EDs_Migu=E9ns?= Vila
Sáb, 2005-05-28 às 13:41 +0200, Richard Fish escreveu:
> Andreas Karlsson wrote:
> 

> 
> I agree.  The system will peform better overall with more RAM, because
> even though the "fast" RAM might be 10% faster, your hard-disk is 100x
> slower, so you really want to avoid swapping at all.
> 
> You might be interested in a recent review of 'value' DDR400 memory at
> anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2392
> 
> -Richard
> 

Thanks both, Andreas and Karlson (the link is very interesting). So, i'm
going to order it right now ... 

cheers

[sinatura] A ouvir (mpc): Tortoise - Not Quite East Of The Ryan >>> GPG
KeyID:0x9D2FD6C8 [\sinatura]


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part


[gentoo-user] cant build gcc on installation emerge --newuse system

2005-05-28 Thread Aaron Urbain

Links are now set up to build a native compiler for i686-pc-linux-gnu
updating cache ../config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating intl/Makefile
creating fixinc/Makefile
creating gccbug
creating mklibgcc
creating mkheaders
creating auto-host.h
 * Compiling gcc ...
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build 
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build 
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/gcc-3.3.5
 * Running make LDFLAGS="" STAGE1_CFLAGS="-O" 
LIBPATH="/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130" 
BOOT_CFLAGS=" -O2 -march=i686 -pipe" profiledbootstrap

make: *** No rule to make target `profiledbootstrap'.  Stop.


Searched google, found nothing.
Bad gcc version?

--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Back up with no root

2005-05-28 Thread Mark Shields
Obviously, if you've never used sudo you'll have to emerge the package
app-admin/sudo.  Then, configure /etc/sudoers with the visudo command.
 Find #%wheel  ALL=(ALL)ALL  and uncomment it.  Then, add the
user you want to be able to use sudo to the wheel group (usermod -g
).  And that's it.  The user should now be able to use sudo,
provide they enter the root password when using it.  If you don't want
to have the use a password to use sudo (highly recommended you do),
uncomment # %wheelALL=(ALL)   NOPASSWD: ALL instead.

On 5/27/05, Myk Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Run sudo after you ssh.  On my network, I backup my servers by setting
> up sudoers on the server I want to backup and running the following
> command from my workstation:
> 
> ssh  @ "sudo dump -uf- " |
> gzip > ...gz
> 
> Pupeno wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm trying to set up my computers so I make backups of my server from my
> > workstation (we don't have a backup server). The thing is that I have a
> > normal user on that server and I'm on the sudoers file to perform any
> > root-task.
> > Now, to back up, I'm running an rsync thru ssh to the server, but that runs 
> > as
> > a my user because I can't ssh as root, how can I achieve root privileges to
> > be able to perform the back up ?
> > Thank you.
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> 
> iD8DBQFCl2JIBOPsJyAQkeARAglpAKChjai/SSVils4LLAhvBHFw4GPF0gCgx50O
> 4JBov/gZcdie8jtIhnBLvGw=
> =1cGc
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 


-- 
- Mark Shields

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Back up with no root

2005-05-28 Thread Mark Shields
oops.  It's "Then, add the user you want to be able to use sudo to the
wheel group (usermod -g wheel )."

On 5/28/05, Mark Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Obviously, if you've never used sudo you'll have to emerge the package
> app-admin/sudo.  Then, configure /etc/sudoers with the visudo command.
>  Find #%wheel  ALL=(ALL)ALL  and uncomment it.  Then, add the
> user you want to be able to use sudo to the wheel group (usermod -g
> ).  And that's it.  The user should now be able to use sudo,
> provide they enter the root password when using it.  If you don't want
> to have the use a password to use sudo (highly recommended you do),
> uncomment # %wheelALL=(ALL)   NOPASSWD: ALL instead.
> 
> On 5/27/05, Myk Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Run sudo after you ssh.  On my network, I backup my servers by setting
> > up sudoers on the server I want to backup and running the following
> > command from my workstation:
> >
> > ssh  @ "sudo dump -uf- " |
> > gzip > ...gz
> >
> > Pupeno wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I'm trying to set up my computers so I make backups of my server from my
> > > workstation (we don't have a backup server). The thing is that I have a
> > > normal user on that server and I'm on the sudoers file to perform any
> > > root-task.
> > > Now, to back up, I'm running an rsync thru ssh to the server, but that 
> > > runs as
> > > a my user because I can't ssh as root, how can I achieve root privileges 
> > > to
> > > be able to perform the back up ?
> > > Thank you.
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> >
> > iD8DBQFCl2JIBOPsJyAQkeARAglpAKChjai/SSVils4LLAhvBHFw4GPF0gCgx50O
> > 4JBov/gZcdie8jtIhnBLvGw=
> > =1cGc
> > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> - Mark Shields
> 


-- 
- Mark Shields

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Dual Boot

2005-05-28 Thread Mark Shields
No.

Completely going by the gentoo install handbook excerpt you pasted,
the grub device/partition referencing is formatted like this: hd,, not hd,.  So, hda1 would be
hd0,0  NOT hd1,0   .  hd1,0 would reference drive 2, partition 1
(/dev/hdb1).

On 5/24/05, AJ Spagnoletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What ever drive the BIOS reports as the bootable drive may be considered
> > drive C: by windows, I think. FWIW you have grub booting Gentoo on the
> > first drive (hd0/hda), so why not change the boot order back and install
> > grub on hda with an updated grub.conf.
> >
> I was looking at this as another option but I was concerned because im
> not sure how to go about a grub install on a windows filesystem. I
> dont want to mess up the windows installation I have to reinstall that
> one enough as it is. I will look into installing grub there because it
> seems the easiest solution.
> 
> >here is your problem. hda1 is (hd0,0) in grubspeak, not (hd1,0)
> 
> From the gentoo installation handbook:
> "Hard drives count from zero rather than "a" and partitions start at
> zero rather than one. Be aware too that with the hd devices, only hard
> drives are counted, not atapi-ide devices such as cdrom players and
> burners. Also, the same construct is used with scsi drives. (Normally
> they get higher numbers than ide drives except when the bios is
> configured to boot from scsi devices.) When you ask the BIOS to boot
> from a different hard disk (for instance your primary slave), that
> harddisk is seen as hd0."
> 
> For my setup hda1 is equal to (hd1,0)
> 
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 


-- 
- Mark Shields

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] cant build gcc on installation emerge --newuse system

2005-05-28 Thread Khan
Aaron Urbain wrote:
> Links are now set up to build a native compiler for i686-pc-linux-gnu
> updating cache ../config.cache
> creating ./config.status
> creating Makefile
> creating intl/Makefile
> creating fixinc/Makefile
> creating gccbug
> creating mklibgcc
> creating mkheaders
> creating auto-host.h
>  * Compiling gcc ...
> /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build
> /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build
> /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/gcc-3.3.5
>  * Running make LDFLAGS="" STAGE1_CFLAGS="-O"
> LIBPATH="/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130"
> BOOT_CFLAGS=" -O2 -march=i686 -pipe" profiledbootstrap
> make: *** No rule to make target `profiledbootstrap'.  Stop.
> 
> 
> Searched google, found nothing.
> Bad gcc version?


Yes, I have the same problem. Any help?

TNX
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-05-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   -O3:  The highest performance optimization level before code starts to
> break.  It goes up to -O9 if you're daring.  (Use -Os to compile for
> size.)  Implies a lot of stuff.

Ack! What?  It does *not* go up to -O9 and never has.  Currently, the code 
change anything after -O3.  There used to be an -O4, and I think up to -O6 
in private builds, but anything higher than -O3 won't help anymore.  (It 
didn't really /help/ before, more often than not it simply produced 
seeg-faulting executables.)

You can specify -O9, but I don't think that's actually a limit.  I think 
you can but any value there that's recognized by aoti (or maybe one of the 
strto{,u}{l,ll} family).  Use -O69 and see how fast you bugs get marked 
INVALID at bugs.gentoo.org!

Also, I *think* -O3 is still broken on some architectures.  x86 should 
support it fine, but -O3 is in that group of compiler flags that has 
produced broken executables.  (That said, I run with -O3 on a pentinum2 
and am quite happy.)

-- 
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] ALSA broke WINE build?

2005-05-28 Thread Stoian Ivanov

Today's 'emerge -auD world' decided to update, amongst others, alsalib 
and WINE. 
 ALSA emerged fine while WINE compile failed with message about bad sintax in 
one of alsa's .h files. 
Is it just my system going bad or a known problem?
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] Slow data transfer over network

2005-05-28 Thread Stuart Howard
Hi

I have a small LAN at home with 2 winXP and 1 Gentoo [genstu] machines
connected through a combined ADSLrouter etc.
I have a problem whereby, I seem to have very slow data transfer
speeds between my Gentoo machine and my XP machines as a guide here
are some figures

Transfer of a 66Mb file :-
XP->gen 90 secs 700KB/s
gen->XP 30 secs 2700KB/s
XP->XP   7 secs ?KB/s

The share on genstu is samba and I have also tried Winscp which gives
a little improvement in performance but not much.
The hardware is all relatively new and the NIC's were cheap and
cheerful but 10/100.
Some output:-
lspci
:00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 (rev 25)
dmesg
tulip0:  Index #251 - Media 10baseT(forced) (#12) described by a 21140
non-MII (0) block.
tulip0:  Index #252 - Media 10baseT-FDX (#20) described by a 21140
non-MII (0) block.
tulip0:  Index #253 - Media 10baseT (#0) described by a 21140 non-MII (0) block.
tulip0:  Index #254 - Media 10baseT (#0) described by a 21140 non-MII (0) block.


Originally I thought it would be Samba and my poor attempt at
configuration but I am becoming more convinced that it may be a NIC
issue or more likely the kernel and my configuration of that
especially since I saw that dmesg output, the kernel was built using
genkernel origianlly and has been updated once [make oldconfig] I also
tried out my pure genkernel config and recieved the same performance.

If anyone can suggest a solution :)

or more reasonably somewhere to look it would be most grateful, as at
the moment I have too many places to look for a problem with no guide
ie. could it be the NIC, kernel, samba, XP, protocols or even because
I just forgot to say please.

Anyway thx for reading 

stu

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-05-28 Thread Ryan Lynch
Optimization level 9 (-O9)?  Thats a laugh.  Read the GCC man page, the 
optimization levels are just groupings of other optimization flags (-O1, -O2, 
-O3, -O0, -Os), with optimization level 3 (-O3) containing the most 
optimization flags.  The numbers don't correlate to any kind of optimization 
level (i.e. -O99 wouldn't be "99%" optimized or some equivilent malarky).  The 
numbers might as well be letters like A, B, C  In fact, if you know 
anything about programming, most of the -O3 flags and beyond become very code 
specific, and sometimes only work with programs written a certain way or run on 
certain processors.This just goes towards my general opinion that Gentoo 
users in general see gcc cflags as some kind of magic incantation and no little 
about their purpose, potential, or meaning.  -funroll-loops anyone?

-Ryan Lynch

On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   -O3:  The highest performance optimization level before code starts to
> > break.  It goes up to -O9 if you're daring.  (Use -Os to compile for
> > size.)  Implies a lot of stuff.
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Slow data transfer over network

2005-05-28 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 28 May 2005, Stuart Howard wrote:

> I have a small LAN at home with 2 winXP and 1 Gentoo [genstu] machines
> connected through a combined ADSLrouter etc.
> I have a problem whereby, I seem to have very slow data transfer
> speeds between my Gentoo machine and my XP machines as a guide here
> are some figures
>
> Transfer of a 66Mb file :-
> XP->gen 90 secs 700KB/s
> gen->XP 30 secs 2700KB/s
> XP->XP   7 secs ?KB/s
>
> The share on genstu is samba and I have also tried Winscp which gives
> a little improvement in performance but not much.
> The hardware is all relatively new and the NIC's were cheap and
> cheerful but 10/100.

Does the ADSL router have a built-in switch or are you using an external
one? Or a hub? Do you know at what speed the cards auto-negotiate with
your switch? (I use mii-diag to check that).

-- 

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-05-28 Thread Ryan Lynch
Optimization level 9 (-O9)?  Thats a laugh.  Read the GCC man page, the 
optimization levels are just groupings of other optimization flags (-O1, -O2, 
-O3, -O0, -Os), with optimization level 3 (-O3) containing the most 
optimization flags.  The numbers don't correlate to any kind of optimization 
level (i.e. -O99 wouldn't be "99%" optimized or some equivilent malarky).  The 
numbers might as well be letters like A, B, C  In fact, if you know 
anything about programming, most of the -O3 flags and beyond become very code 
specific, and sometimes only work with programs written a certain way or run on 
certain processors.This just goes towards my general opinion that Gentoo 
users in general see gcc cflags as some kind of magic incantation and no little 
about their purpose, potential, or meaning.  -funroll-loops anyone?

-Ryan Lynch

On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   -O3:  The highest performance optimization level before code starts to
> > break.  It goes up to -O9 if you're daring.  (Use -Os to compile for
> > size.)  Implies a lot of stuff.
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-05-28 Thread Ryan Lynch
Optimization level 9 (-O9)?  Thats a laugh.  Read the GCC man page, the 
optimization levels are just groupings of other optimization flags (-O1, -O2, 
-O3, -O0, -Os), with optimization level 3 (-O3) containing the most 
optimization flags.  The numbers don't correlate to any kind of optimization 
level (i.e. -O99 wouldn't be "99%" optimized or some equivilent malarky).  The 
numbers might as well be letters like A, B, C  In fact, if you know 
anything about programming, most of the -O3 flags and beyond become very code 
specific, and sometimes only work with programs written a certain way or run on 
certain processors.This just goes towards my general opinion that Gentoo 
users in general see gcc cflags as some kind of magic incantation and no little 
about their purpose, potential, or meaning.  -funroll-loops anyone?

-Ryan Lynch

On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   -O3:  The highest performance optimization level before code starts to
> > break.  It goes up to -O9 if you're daring.  (Use -Os to compile for
> > size.)  Implies a lot of stuff.
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-05-28 Thread Ryan Lynch
Optimization level 9 (-O9)?  Thats a laugh.  Read the GCC man page, the 
optimization levels are just groupings of other optimization flags (-O1, -O2, 
-O3, -O0, -Os), with optimization level 3 (-O3) containing the most 
optimization flags.  The numbers don't correlate to any kind of optimization 
level (i.e. -O99 wouldn't be "99%" optimized or some equivilent malarky).  The 
numbers might as well be letters like A, B, C  In fact, if you know 
anything about programming, most of the -O3 flags and beyond become very code 
specific, and sometimes only work with programs written a certain way or run on 
certain processors.This just goes towards my general opinion that Gentoo 
users in general see gcc cflags as some kind of magic incantation and no little 
about their purpose, potential, or meaning.  -funroll-loops anyone?

-Ryan Lynch

On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   -O3:  The highest performance optimization level before code starts to
> > break.  It goes up to -O9 if you're daring.  (Use -Os to compile for
> > size.)  Implies a lot of stuff.
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] package.* mess!

2005-05-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 26 May 2005 08:19 am, Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I find it just as easy to run all the flags in one line, like:
>
> $ emerge -DNuvtp world
>
> and when I am satisfied with what the coloured output is showing to me
> (well done Gentoo portage dev guys), I just run it properly (without
> the "pretend").

If you use -a (--ask) instead of -p (--pretend) [i.e.: emerge -uDNvta 
world] you'll save at least one round of calculating dependencies.

BTW, portage-devs, thanks for adding a short version of --newuse.

-- 
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] Can't Emerge Latest Mythmusic Ebuild

2005-05-28 Thread Michael Haan
I get the following:

aacdecoder.cpp: In member function `bool aacDecoder::initializeMP4()':
aacdecoder.cpp:298: error: cannot convert `long unsigned int*' to
`uint32_t*' for argument `4' to `int8_t faacDecInit2(void*, uint8_t*,
uint32_t, uint32_t*, uint8_t*)'
make[2]: *** [aacdecoder.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/mythmusic-0.18.1/work/mythplugins-0.18.1/mythmusic/mythmusic'
make[1]: *** [sub-mythmusic] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/mythmusic-0.18.1/work/mythplugins-0.18.1/mythmusic'
make: *** [sub-mythmusic] Error 2


when trying to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge  mythmusic

FYI:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm # emerge -s myth
Searching...
[ Results for search key : myth ]
[ Applications found : 13 ]

*  media-plugins/mythbrowser [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18.1
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Web browser module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythdvd [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18.1
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: DVD player module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythgallery [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Gallery and slideshow module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythgame [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Game emulator module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythmusic [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Music player module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythnews [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: RSS feed news reading module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythphone [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Phone and video calls with SIP.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythvideo [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18.1
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Video player module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythweather [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18.1
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Weather forecast module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-tv/mythfrontend [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18-r1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 8,595 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Homebrew PVR project
  License: GPL-2

*  media-tv/mythtv
  Latest version available: 0.17-r1
  Latest version installed: 0.18.1-r1
  Size of downloaded files: 15,745 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Homebrew PVR project
  License: GPL-2

*  www-apps/mythweb [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: PHP scripts intended to manage MythTV from a web browser.
  License: GPL-2

*  x11-themes/mythtv-themes [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 15,257 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: A collection of themes for the MythTV project.
  License: GPL-2

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] portage skipfailed ebuild

2005-05-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 05:30 pm, "Michael W. Holdeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Is there an option to let portage skip a failed ebuild and continue on,
> like --resume --skipfirst on unattende?

I like bash scripting:

if ! emerge ; then
while ! emerge --resume --skipfirst; do
/bin/true
done
fi

If you have to do it often enough, throw it into a script like so:

mkdir -p /usr/local/scripts
cd /usr/local/scripts
cat > emerge-without-yeilding-to-oncoming-traffic.sh << EOF
#!/bin/bash

if ! emerge "$@"; then
while ! emerge --resume --skipfirst; do
/bin/true
done
fi
EOF
ln 
-s ../scripts/emerge-without-yeilding-to-oncoming-traffic.sh 
/usr/local/bin/emerge-without-yeilding-to-oncoming-traffic

Of course, you can change the name of the script to something less verbose, 
funny, and "political", if you want.

-- 
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] grub misfires?

2005-05-28 Thread maxim wexler
> >
> 
> Welcome to the list.  You are correct...the problem
> is that hda2 should
> be mounted at /mnt/gentoo/boot before chroot'ing
> into it.  

Sorry guys, this is what becomes of copying out
commands with pen & paper then copying out the copies
onto another piece of paper ;(



__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Slow data transfer over network

2005-05-28 Thread Stuart Howard
yes it has a built in switch [Linksys WAG54G] 
and unfortunaltly 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] stuart # mii-diag   
Using the default interface 'eth0'.
SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed: Operation not supported

^^ prehaps this is relavent ?

also
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:4C:A2:28:FF  
  inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:146477 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:149586 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:100725067 (96.0 Mb)  TX bytes:70854966 (67.5 Mb)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xb000 




On 5/28/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005, Stuart Howard wrote:
> 
> > I have a small LAN at home with 2 winXP and 1 Gentoo [genstu] machines
> > connected through a combined ADSLrouter etc.
> > I have a problem whereby, I seem to have very slow data transfer
> > speeds between my Gentoo machine and my XP machines as a guide here
> > are some figures
> >
> > Transfer of a 66Mb file :-
> > XP->gen 90 secs 700KB/s
> > gen->XP 30 secs 2700KB/s
> > XP->XP   7 secs ?KB/s
> >
> > The share on genstu is samba and I have also tried Winscp which gives
> > a little improvement in performance but not much.
> > The hardware is all relatively new and the NIC's were cheap and
> > cheerful but 10/100.
> 
> Does the ADSL router have a built-in switch or are you using an external
> one? Or a hub? Do you know at what speed the cards auto-negotiate with
> your switch? (I use mii-diag to check that).
> 
> --
> 
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

2005-05-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 23 May 2005 06:24 am, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2005 12:12:02 +0100 THUFIR HAWAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> | Sun doesn't follow the LFS
>
> The what?

AFAIK--

LFS: Linux Filesystem heiracrchy Standard.

Probably not really a standard.

Based off of the FHS with additions pertenent to linux but not necessarily 
the other OSs using the FHS.

> | then, it turns out that gentoo, in turn, violates the LFS.
>
> The what? If you mean LSB or FHS, we don't consider them to be relevant
> standards, so we ignore them.

Yeah, that's one of my few problems with gentoo. :(  I'd like LSB and FHS 
(and LFS) compliance, at least in ${ARCH}, if not ~${ARCH}.

Besides the /opt vs. /usr problem, I don't like how I have to 
delete /mnt/floppy and /mnt/cdrom everytime baselayout (?) is updated, 
since the "correct" place (and the one I use) for these mount points 
is /media/floppy and /media/cdrom.

-- 
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread timothy johnson
May be a dumb question, but is there a version of the linux kernel for
the intel dual core 64bit???

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA broke WINE build?

2005-05-28 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Yeah I am having the same problem:

[quote]
In file included from /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h:48,
 from alsa.h:23,
 from audio.c:63:
/usr/include/alsa/conf.h:189: error: parse error before "struct"
audio.c: In function `wodPlayer':
audio.c:1720: warning: no return statement in function returning non-void
audio.c: At top level:
audio.c:243: warning: 'getCmdString' defined but not used
audio.c:263: warning: 'getMessage' defined but not used
audio.c:311: warning: 'getFormat' defined but not used
make[2]: *** [audio.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wine-20050524/work/wine-20050524/dlls/winmm/winealsa'
make[1]: *** [winmm/winealsa] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wine-20050524/work/wine-20050524/dlls'
make: *** [dlls] Error 2

!!! ERROR: app-emulation/wine-20050524 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 107, Exitcode 2
!!! all
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.
[/quote]

On 5/28/05, Stoian Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Today's 'emerge -auD world' decided to update, amongst others, 
> alsalib and WINE.
>  ALSA emerged fine while WINE compile failed with message about bad sintax in 
> one of alsa's .h files.
> Is it just my system going bad or a known problem?
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-05-28 Thread Richard Fish
Ok already, we hear you.  No need to post the same message 5 times.

And BTW, it is a "feature" of GMail that you don't see your own posts.

Cheers,

-Richard

Ryan Lynch wrote:

>Optimization level 9 (-O9)?  Thats a laugh.  Read the GCC man page, the 
>optimization levels are just groupings of other optimization flags (-O1, -O2, 
>-O3, -O0, -Os), with optimization level 3 (-O3) containing the most 
>optimization flags.  The numbers don't correlate to any kind of optimization 
>level (i.e. -O99 wouldn't be "99%" optimized or some equivilent malarky).  The 
>numbers might as well be letters like A, B, C  In fact, if you know 
>anything about programming, most of the -O3 flags and beyond become very code 
>specific, and sometimes only work with programs written a certain way or run 
>on certain processors.This just goes towards my general opinion that 
>Gentoo users in general see gcc cflags as some kind of magic incantation and 
>no little about their purpose, potential, or meaning.  -funroll-loops anyone?
>
>-Ryan Lynch
>
>On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>On Monday 23 May 2005 05:09 pm, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>  -O3:  The highest performance optimization level before code starts to
>>>break.  It goes up to -O9 if you're daring.  (Use -Os to compile for
>>>size.)  Implies a lot of stuff.
>>>  
>>>
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Slow data transfer over network

2005-05-28 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 28 May 2005, Stuart Howard wrote:

> yes it has a built in switch [Linksys WAG54G]
> and unfortunaltly

Is it a 100Mbps switch?

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] stuart # mii-diag
> Using the default interface 'eth0'.
> SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed: Operation not supported
>
> ^^ prehaps this is relavent ?

What driver are you using? Is it a module? (If so, lsmod will show what
module it is).

>From my poking around, it looks like the Tulip drivers support the
Macronix cards.

-- 

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Back up with no root

2005-05-28 Thread Pupeno
On Saturday 28 May 2005 10:47, Mark Shields wrote:
> Obviously, if you've never used sudo you'll have to emerge the package
> app-admin/sudo.  Then, configure /etc/sudoers with the visudo command.
>  Find #%wheel  ALL=(ALL)ALL  and uncomment it.  Then, add the
> user you want to be able to use sudo to the wheel group (usermod -g
> ).  And that's it.

> The user should now be able to use sudo, 
> provide they enter the root password when using it.
This part is not right I believe, the good thing of sude is that you scalate 
privileges by using your own password, not root's password, I don't even know 
root's passwords of the server.

> If you don't want 
> to have the use a password to use sudo (highly recommended you do),
> uncomment # %wheelALL=(ALL)   NOPASSWD: ALL instead.

BTW, I think you missunderstood the question, I have sudo isntalled, I know 
how it works and I am using it to do anything that requires root on my server 
(after logging in as pupeno). My question is, how do I run a command like 
this:
rsync --verbose --checksum --archive --partial --progress --rsh="ssh" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/ ./var/
having root-privileges on the server.
-- 
Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (http://pupeno.com)
Reading ? Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar


pgpJLu0Fx2A9e.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

2005-05-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 May 2005 12:43:49 -0500 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Besides the /opt vs. /usr problem, I don't like how I have to 
| delete /mnt/floppy and /mnt/cdrom everytime baselayout (?) is updated,
| since the "correct" place (and the one I use) for these mount points 
| is /media/floppy and /media/cdrom.

/media considered silly.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm



pgpFUTJiDwAz1.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread neil

timothy johnson wrote:


May be a dumb question, but is there a version of the linux kernel for
the intel dual core 64bit??
 

Yes, it is a dumb question. Gentoo users create their own kernel 
versions depending on their hardware and configuration.



Be lucky,

Neil

--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Slow data transfer over network

2005-05-28 Thread Stuart Howard
lsmod returns "tulip"

The switch is :-

Supports 4 10/100 Auto MDI-X
Ethernet switch ports and 1 Line
port


and using "modinfo tulip" I get 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] stuart # modinfo tulip
author: The Linux Kernel Team
description:Digital 21*4* Tulip ethernet driver
license:GPL
version:1.1.13
parmtype:   tulip_debug:int
parmtype:   max_interrupt_work:int
parmtype:   rx_copybreak:int
parmtype:   csr0:int
parmtype:   options:array of int
parmtype:   full_duplex:array of int
vermagic:   2.6.11.5 486 gcc-3.3
depends:
alias:  pci:v1011d0009sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
30 more lines of similar to above alias [1 line easier on eyes]

The NIC in genstu is exactly the same model as the NIC in one of the
XP machines and data transfer between the two XP machines via the
switch is way in excess of 10Mb [dont have anything prog on XP to
quantify this, except the analogue graph in task manager]

stu

thx for help btw 




On 5/28/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005, Stuart Howard wrote:
> 
> > yes it has a built in switch [Linksys WAG54G]
> > and unfortunaltly
> 
> Is it a 100Mbps switch?
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] stuart # mii-diag
> > Using the default interface 'eth0'.
> > SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed: Operation not supported
> >
> > ^^ prehaps this is relavent ?
> 
> What driver are you using? Is it a module? (If so, lsmod will show what
> module it is).
> 
> From my poking around, it looks like the Tulip drivers support the
> Macronix cards.
> 
> --
> 
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA broke WINE build?

2005-05-28 Thread Edward Catmur
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 19:57 +0200, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
> In file included from /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h:48,
>  from alsa.h:23,
>  from audio.c:63:
> /usr/include/alsa/conf.h:189: error: parse error before "struct"
> audio.c: In function `wodPlayer':
> audio.c:1720: warning: no return statement in function returning non-void
> audio.c: At top level:
> audio.c:243: warning: 'getCmdString' defined but not used
> audio.c:263: warning: 'getMessage' defined but not used
> audio.c:311: warning: 'getFormat' defined but not used
> make[2]: *** [audio.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/wine-20050524/work/wine-20050524/dlls/winmm/winealsa'
> make[1]: *** [winmm/winealsa] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/wine-20050524/work/wine-20050524/dlls'
> make: *** [dlls] Error 2

See here:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94272

I've made a patch, which makes wine compile OK here.

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread Jonathan Wright

neil wrote:

timothy johnson wrote:


May be a dumb question, but is there a version of the linux kernel for
the intel dual core 64bit??
 

Yes, it is a dumb question. Gentoo users create their own kernel 
versions depending on their hardware and configuration.


A little harsh I think!

The standard kernel should do fine. As far as the system is concerned 
there are (or at least should be ;) two processors there. Just load up 
the kernel editor and make sure that SMP is enabled for at least as many 
processors are in your system (i.e. number of cores).


If your running  a dual-core, double-processor system, it's effectively 
a quad system (no dual), so SMP should be build for at least 4 processors.


--
Jonathan Wright 
// life has no meaning unless we can enjoy what we've been given
// running gentoo ~ 2.6.11-gentoo-r6-djnauk-b2 i686 AMD Athlon XP 2100+
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-05-28 Thread Julien Cayzac
On 5/28/05, Ryan Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Optimization level 9 (-O9)?  Thats a laugh.  Read the GCC man page, the 
> optimization levels are just groupings of other optimization flags (-O1, -O2, 
> -O3, -O0, -Os), with optimization level 3 (-O3) containing the most 
> optimization flags.  The numbers don't correlate to any kind of optimization 
> level (i.e. -O99 wouldn't be "99%" optimized or some equivilent malarky).  
> The numbers might as well be letters like A, B, C  In fact, if you know 
> anything about programming, most of the -O3 flags and beyond become very code 
> specific, and sometimes only work with programs written a certain way or run 
> on certain processors.This just goes towards my general opinion that 
> Gentoo users in general see gcc cflags as some kind of magic incantation and 
> no little about their purpose, potential, or meaning.  -funroll-loops anyone?

Actually, there *was* such -O4 or -O6 on certain old gcc builds.
I remember using gcc -O6 at some point in time, and it was a valid
flag according to the man page.

I think it might have been some dirty "enhancements" og the EGCS family...

Julien

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Michael Sullivan
I have an Argus DC1730 USB digital still camera.  I want to be able to
use it in Gentoo.  I found a website
(http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html) that said that the
driver I would need is gphoto2/sq905.  I emerged gphoto2 and I think I
have the driver now.  The website said that I would now have to mount
the camera and gave a link to the Linux USB sub-system documentation,
the Mass Storage Devices page.  I read over it, but it made no sense to
me.  I've never really worked with hardware devices before. Can anyone
walk me through mounting my camera?  The Linux USB page said that I
should now be able to see information about my camera
in /proc/scsi/scsi, but the file command claims that it's an empty file.
When I cat it, I get this:

baby scsi # cat scsi
Attached devices:

I'm not even sure if the camera driver is loaded or not.  I am using
genkernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r5 if that matters...

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

2005-05-28 Thread Holly Bostick
Ciaran McCreesh schreef:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005 12:43:49 -0500 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Besides the /opt vs. /usr problem, I don't like how I have to 
> | delete /mnt/floppy and /mnt/cdrom everytime baselayout (?) is updated,
> | since the "correct" place (and the one I use) for these mount points 
> | is /media/floppy and /media/cdrom.
> 
> /media considered silly.
> 

I see your "silly", and raise you "confusing", and "annoying", but what
is one supposed to do about dbus/hal in that case, since no matter how
silly, confusing, and annoying, /media/foo is the mount points its going
to make... automatically, even?

Holly
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/28/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an Argus DC1730 USB digital still camera.  I want to be able to
> use it in Gentoo.  I found a website
> (http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html) that said that the
> driver I would need is gphoto2/sq905.  I emerged gphoto2 and I think I
> have the driver now.  The website said that I would now have to mount
> the camera and gave a link to the Linux USB sub-system documentation,
> the Mass Storage Devices page.  I read over it, but it made no sense to
> me.  I've never really worked with hardware devices before. Can anyone
> walk me through mounting my camera?  The Linux USB page said that I
> should now be able to see information about my camera
> in /proc/scsi/scsi, but the file command claims that it's an empty file.
> When I cat it, I get this:
> 
> baby scsi # cat scsi
> Attached devices:
> 
> I'm not even sure if the camera driver is loaded or not.  I am using
> genkernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r5 if that matters...
> 

I don't do anything really fancy with mine. I just access pictures via
Gnome's desktop interface and copy photos off.

I had to set up USB disk stuff in my kernels. With that in place when
I connect the camera and look at dmesg I'll see the scsi device that
got attached. (Usually sdb for me.) I think mount the camera using
something like

mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/camera

and at that point I'm good to go.

Good luck,
Mark

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread Andreas Vinsander
Jonathan Wright wrote:
>> Yes, it is a dumb question. Gentoo users create their own kernel
>> versions depending on their hardware and configuration.
> 
> 
> A little harsh I think!

Agree!

> 
> If your running  a dual-core, double-processor system, it's effectively
> a quad system (no dual), so SMP should be build for at least 4 processors.
> 

Here's another dumb one:

Is hyperthreading enabled in the dual-core procesors? Thus making a
single dual core Xeon count as 4 processors kernel-wize?

/Andreas

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Uwe Klosa
You should go through the USB HOWTO and SUBMOUNT HOWTO. That is working great 
for me and all devices i connet via usb. The system will
recognize your camera as a mass storage device.

Uwe

Michael Sullivan wrote:
> I have an Argus DC1730 USB digital still camera.  I want to be able to
> use it in Gentoo.  I found a website
> (http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html) that said that the
> driver I would need is gphoto2/sq905.  I emerged gphoto2 and I think I
> have the driver now.  The website said that I would now have to mount
> the camera and gave a link to the Linux USB sub-system documentation,
> the Mass Storage Devices page.  I read over it, but it made no sense to
> me.  I've never really worked with hardware devices before. Can anyone
> walk me through mounting my camera?  The Linux USB page said that I
> should now be able to see information about my camera
> in /proc/scsi/scsi, but the file command claims that it's an empty file.
> When I cat it, I get this:
> 
> baby scsi # cat scsi
> Attached devices:
> 
> I'm not even sure if the camera driver is loaded or not.  I am using
> genkernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r5 if that matters...
> 
begin:vcard
fn:Uwe Klosa
n:Klosa;Uwe
org:Uppsala University;Electronic Publishing Centre
adr:;;;Uppsala;;75120;Sweden
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel;work:+46 (0)18 471 7658
url:http://publications.uu.se/epcentre
version:2.1
end:vcard



[gentoo-user] Printer setup tool

2005-05-28 Thread creighto
Are there any tools to help me set up my printer (Hp Deskjet 722c)?  The
gentoo docs don't seem to work for my and I can't understand why.  The
computer thinks that its sending the jobs, reports that the printer is
active and idle, but the jobs seem to vanish into /dev/null and the
printer never even twitches.

Creighton

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Sarpy Sam
On 5/28/05, Uwe Klosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You should go through the USB HOWTO and SUBMOUNT HOWTO. That is working
> great for me and all devices i connet via usb. The system will
> recognize your camera as a mass storage device.
> 



If you are using gphoto2 to access the camera you will not access it
like a usb mass storage device.  Read the man gphoto2 and you can use
it right on the command line real easy.

Kirby Walborn

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 12:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 5/28/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have an Argus DC1730 USB digital still camera.  I want to be able to
> > use it in Gentoo.  I found a website
> > (http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html) that said that the
> > driver I would need is gphoto2/sq905.  I emerged gphoto2 and I think I
> > have the driver now.  The website said that I would now have to mount
> > the camera and gave a link to the Linux USB sub-system documentation,
> > the Mass Storage Devices page.  I read over it, but it made no sense to
> > me.  I've never really worked with hardware devices before. Can anyone
> > walk me through mounting my camera?  The Linux USB page said that I
> > should now be able to see information about my camera
> > in /proc/scsi/scsi, but the file command claims that it's an empty file.
> > When I cat it, I get this:
> > 
> > baby scsi # cat scsi
> > Attached devices:
> > 
> > I'm not even sure if the camera driver is loaded or not.  I am using
> > genkernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r5 if that matters...
> > 
> 
> I don't do anything really fancy with mine. I just access pictures via
> Gnome's desktop interface and copy photos off.
> 
> I had to set up USB disk stuff in my kernels. With that in place when
> I connect the camera and look at dmesg I'll see the scsi device that
> got attached. (Usually sdb for me.) I think mount the camera using
> something like
> 
> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/camera
> 
> and at that point I'm good to go.
> 
> Good luck,
> Mark
> 

I looked through the output of dmesg but didn't see any references to a
digital camera.  I'm not even sure the driver is loaded.  How do I load
the driver?  It's located at:

/usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.4/libgphoto2_sq905.so
/usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.4/libgphoto2_sq905.la
/usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.4/libgphoto2_sq905.a


-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Printer setup tool

2005-05-28 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Take a walk over to http://www.linuxprinting.org/ it will answer every
question you have...

I am feeling helpful this evening so here:

1. Your printer should work perfectly
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_722C

2. Cups guide:
http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html

Pretty much emerge cups and download the ppd file for your printer
from here: 
http://www.linuxprinting.org/ppd-o-matic.cgi?driver=pnm2ppa&printer=HP-DeskJet_722C&show=0
than copy that into /usr/share/cups/model/ than restart the cups
daemon. Now open up firefox or what ever internet browser you use and
type: http://localhost:631/admin login as root. Select Add Printer and
yeah go from there...

That should help you get it working or at least on the right track...

Hope it helps
Cheers
Rav


On 5/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are there any tools to help me set up my printer (Hp Deskjet 722c)?  The
> gentoo docs don't seem to work for my and I can't understand why.  The
> computer thinks that its sending the jobs, reports that the printer is
> active and idle, but the jobs seem to vanish into /dev/null and the
> printer never even twitches.
> 
> Creighton
> 
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread Jonathan Wright

Andreas Vinsander wrote:

A little harsh I think!


Agree!


:)


If your running  a dual-core, double-processor system, it's effectively
a quad system (no dual), so SMP should be build for at least 4 processors.


Here's another dumb one:

Is hyperthreading enabled in the dual-core procesors? Thus making a
single dual core Xeon count as 4 processors kernel-wize?


If I remember rightly, yes. As far as how the processor presents itself 
to the system, each core itself is an independent processor. This goes 
for the hyper-treading system from Intel aswell, as it's treated as 2 
cores, but the processor controls what the core can do depending on 
what's available in the processor and the code is running at the time.


Just interesting that if you bought 2 processors, now with dual-core 
hyper-threading your system suddenly thinks it's an 8-way beomoth! :D 
I'd hate to think of the licensing fees Micro$oft could charge for that 
if the mood caught them right! :-/


--
Jonathan Wright 
// life has no meaning unless we can enjoy what we've been given
// running gentoo ~ 2.6.11-gentoo-r6-djnauk-b2 i686 AMD Athlon XP 2100+
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Jonathan Wright

Sarpy Sam wrote:

On 5/28/05, Uwe Klosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You should go through the USB HOWTO and SUBMOUNT HOWTO. That is working
great for me and all devices i connet via usb. The system will
recognize your camera as a mass storage device.


If you are using gphoto2 to access the camera you will not access it
like a usb mass storage device.  Read the man gphoto2 and you can use
it right on the command line real easy.


I've got one camera (Sony) that just appears a a USB Mass Storage 
Device, but the Canon EOS-300D needs gphoto2. For that one I've found 
gtkam good for interfacing gphoto2 with the camera.


It's not the most well build for feature complete programs (only really 
meant as a proof-of-concept), but it's fine for browsing though the 
photos and downloading them onto my system.


--
Jonathan Wright 
// life has no meaning unless we can enjoy what we've been given
// running gentoo ~ 2.6.11-gentoo-r6-djnauk-b2 i686 AMD Athlon XP 2100+
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 14:39 -0600, Sarpy Sam wrote:
> On 5/28/05, Uwe Klosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You should go through the USB HOWTO and SUBMOUNT HOWTO. That is working
> > great for me and all devices i connet via usb. The system will
> > recognize your camera as a mass storage device.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> If you are using gphoto2 to access the camera you will not access it
> like a usb mass storage device.  Read the man gphoto2 and you can use
> it right on the command line real easy.
> 
> Kirby Walborn
> 

I looked at the man page for gphoto2 and it said that I could try
--auto-detect the camera.  I tried it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ gphoto2 --auto-detect
Model  Port
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $

Other than that, the man page didn't make much sense to me.  Is there
anything else I can do?

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Sat, May 28, 2005 9:13 pm, Uwe Klosa said:
> The system will
> recognize your camera as a mass storage device.

Not necessarily, not all cameras are recognised as mass storage devices.


-- 
Neil Bothwick



-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Printer setup tool

2005-05-28 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Sat, May 28, 2005 9:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Are there any tools to help me set up my printer (Hp Deskjet 722c)?  The
> gentoo docs don't seem to work for my and I can't understand why.  The
> computer thinks that its sending the jobs, reports that the printer is
> active and idle, but the jobs seem to vanish into /dev/null and the
> printer never even twitches.

Are there any clues in the log files in /var/log/cups/ ?


-- 
Neil Bothwick



-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread Zac Medico

--- Jonathan Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The standard kernel should do fine. As far as the
> system is concerned 

Sure but what about 64 bits?  CMIIW but new intel
processors with EM64T are supposed to be x86_64
compatible, right?  That would mean that the gentoo
AMD64 project applies here.

Zac



__
Discover Yahoo! 
Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! 
http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html 

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Back up with no root

2005-05-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 09:47:20AM -0400, Mark Shields wrote
> Obviously, if you've never used sudo you'll have to emerge the package
> app-admin/sudo.  Then, configure /etc/sudoers with the visudo command.
>  Find #%wheel  ALL=(ALL)ALL  and uncomment it.  Then, add the
> user you want to be able to use sudo to the wheel group (usermod -g
> ).  And that's it.  The user should now be able to use sudo,
> provide they enter the root password when using it.  If you don't want
> to have the use a password to use sudo (highly recommended you do),
> uncomment # %wheelALL=(ALL)   NOPASSWD: ALL instead.

  There is an in-between solution that's not as risky.  You can allow
specific users to execute specific commands with a specific set of
parameters.  For instance, I have a backup dialup account at 295.ca for
emergency use if/when my ADSL account is not available.  ppp0 can not
co-exist with eth0.  So, in addition to creating /dev/ppp, I (as user
waltdnes) also have to shut down eth0, and call pon, in order to connect
via dialup.  After logging off, I need to restart eth0.  These commands
all require root privileges.  The specific commands in my /etc/sudoers
are...

waltdnes  m450 = (root) NOPASSWD: /bin/mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0
waltdnes  m450 = (root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down
waltdnes  m450 = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/pon 295caint
waltdnes  m450 = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/poff
waltdnes  m450 = (root) NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart

  It's painfull to type these commands manually, so I've set up a couple
of scripts, called "dialup" and "dialdown"...

[m450][waltdnes][~]cat bin/dialup
#!/bin/bash
sudo /bin/mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0
sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down
sudo /usr/sbin/pon 295caint

[m450][waltdnes][~]cat bin/dialdown
#!/bin/bash
sudo /usr/sbin/poff
sudo /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart

  In your case, you can allow the regular user to launch a backup
process with root privileges.  For security reasons, I recommend...
  1) always specify the full program path
  2) always specify all parameters in full

-- 
Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An infinite number of monkeys pounding away on keyboards will
eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure,
and has a lower TCO, than linux.
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

2005-05-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/28/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 12:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

> > I don't do anything really fancy with mine. I just access pictures via
> > Gnome's desktop interface and copy photos off.
> >
> > I had to set up USB disk stuff in my kernels. With that in place when
> > I connect the camera and look at dmesg I'll see the scsi device that
> > got attached. (Usually sdb for me.) I think mount the camera using
> > something like
> >
> > mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/camera
> >
> > and at that point I'm good to go.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Mark
> >
> 
> I looked through the output of dmesg but didn't see any references to a
> digital camera.  I'm not even sure the driver is loaded.  How do I load
> the driver?  It's located at:
> 
> /usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.4/libgphoto2_sq905.so
> /usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.4/libgphoto2_sq905.la
> /usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.4/libgphoto2_sq905.a
> 

Sorry Micheal. I guess I wasn't very clear about that. If your kernel
supports USB mass storage and if your camera is recognized as a mass
storage device (as Neil points out not all are I guess) then you
should see a message in dmesg to the effect that a mass storage device
has been loaded. Search for

/dev/sd

and you would find /dev/sda1 or sdb3 or something like that.

Do check to make sure you have SCSI and USB mass storage supported in
your kernel or this most certainly will not work this way. Even then
it depends on your camera.

Good luck,
Mark

P.S. - I never got gphoto2 to recognize my camera either!

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] cant build gcc on installation emerge --newuse system

2005-05-28 Thread Khan

Aaron Urbain wrote:

* Running make LDFLAGS="" STAGE1_CFLAGS="-O"
LIBPATH="/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130"
BOOT_CFLAGS=" -O2 -march=i686 -pipe" profiledbootstrap
make: *** No rule to make target `profiledbootstrap'.  Stop.


Hmmm, this looks serious. I have filled a bug:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94318
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] Back up again

2005-05-28 Thread Pupeno
After a lot of testing and testing of different methods to make backups I 
reached a conclution of what I need, but I don't know if it's possible.
I want to do an rsync of the server directories I want but locally, it should 
end up in a tared file (it doesn't need to be compressed). I need it on a 
tared file because I want to preserve permissions, so, restoring the backup 
won't be a pain. I want rsync because I need to make it incremental, if not, 
I'll kill my server's bandwidth, at last I need to reach root privileges by 
sudoing.
Is this possible ? if not, is there any workarround that you know that might 
help me (like taring the dirs on the server and syncing that) ?
Thank you.
-- 
Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (http://pupeno.com)
Reading ? Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar


pgpLEWJAGJFgP.pgp
Description: PGP signature


[gentoo-user] Clamav out of date

2005-05-28 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
During startup clamav tells me it's out of date.  If I run freshclam I get 
the message below.  However, I'm running the most current version in 
portage and haven't found anyting in bugzilla about this.  What do I do to 
get the functionality level where clamav will be happy?


ClamAV update process started at Sat May 28 18:52:09 2005
WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately!
WARNING: Local version: 0.83 Recommended version: 0.85.1
main.cvd is up to date (version: 31, sigs: 33079, f-level: 4, builder: 
tkojm)
daily.cvd is up to date (version: 898, sigs: 1782, f-level: 5, builder: 
ccordes)

WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately!
WARNING: Current functionality level = 4, required = 5


--

Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User #188143
Remove R777 to email
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] xorg on laptop

2005-05-28 Thread Antonio Coralles
Recently i tried to install gentoo on a aspire 1300 laptop with a savage
graphics card. Everthing worked fine till i started to configute the X
server. For some reason which i don't understand, when starting X only
about 1/4 of the screen are grey - the rest of the screen stays blank
and you can't move the mousepointer outside of the grey box. But somehow
it must work, because when i boot up with the live-cd-2005.0 and then
chroot into my installation environment, i can configure and start X
without problems.

Here is a short description of the things i allready tried:
At first, after realizing that it works with the gentoo-boot cd, i
thought, that maybe somehow the framebuffer makes the differnece. So i
configured the system to use a simple framebuffer console without a
splashimage with the help of
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash#2.6.8_and_newer_kernels
. Allthough that was easier than i thought, the problems with X remain.
I tried removing agp-gart support from the kernel [which is
linux-2.6.11.10 ]  and played around with different monitor and device
optins in my xorg config file.

Maybe someone has an idea what to do...
Thanks,
Antonio
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] xorg on laptop

2005-05-28 Thread Antonio Coralles
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

> Recently i tried to install gentoo on a aspire 1300 laptop with a savage
> graphics card. Everthing worked fine till i started to configute the X
> server. For some reason which i don't understand, when starting X only
> about 1/4 of the screen are grey - the rest of the screen stays blank
> and you can't move the mousepointer outside of the grey box. But somehow
> it must work, because when i boot up with the live-cd-2005.0 and then
> chroot into my installation environment, i can configure and start X
> without problems.
>
> Here is a short description of the things i allready tried:
> At first, after realizing that it works with the gentoo-boot cd, i
> thought, that maybe somehow the framebuffer makes the differnece. So i
> configured the system to use a simple framebuffer console without a
> splashimage with the help of
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash#2.6.8_and_newer_kernels
> .. Allthough that was easier than i thought, the problems with X remain.
> I tried removing agp-gart support from the kernel [which is
> linux-2.6.11.10 ]  and played around with different monitor and device
> optins in my xorg config file.
>
> Maybe someone has an idea what to do...
> Thanks,
> Antonio

Ok, lucky as i am, i've allready solved my problem:
The line "Virtual 1024 768" in the "Display" section did the trick -
don't ask me why ...
Antonio
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Printer setup tool

2005-05-28 Thread creighto
I have done all of these things, or tried anyway.

Creighton

> Take a walk over to http://www.linuxprinting.org/ it will answer every
> question you have...
>
> I am feeling helpful this evening so here:
>
> 1. Your printer should work perfectly
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_722C
>
> 2. Cups guide:
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html
>
> Pretty much emerge cups and download the ppd file for your printer
> from here:
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/ppd-o-matic.cgi?driver=pnm2ppa&printer=HP-DeskJet_722C&show=0
> than copy that into /usr/share/cups/model/ than restart the cups
> daemon. Now open up firefox or what ever internet browser you use and
> type: http://localhost:631/admin login as root. Select Add Printer and
> yeah go from there...
>
> That should help you get it working or at least on the right track...
>
> Hope it helps
> Cheers
> Rav
>
>
> On 5/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Are there any tools to help me set up my printer (Hp Deskjet 722c)?  The
>> gentoo docs don't seem to work for my and I can't understand why.  The
>> computer thinks that its sending the jobs, reports that the printer is
>> active and idle, but the jobs seem to vanish into /dev/null and the
>> printer never even twitches.
>>
>> Creighton
>>
>> --
>> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>>
>
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>


-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Printer setup tool

2005-05-28 Thread creighto
>
> Are there any clues in the log files in /var/log/cups/ ?
>

Error Log as follows

I [28/May/2005:19:51:27 -0400] Listening to 7f01:631
I [28/May/2005:19:51:27 -0400] Listening to 0:631
I [28/May/2005:19:51:27 -0400] Loaded configuration file
"/etc/cups/cupsd.conf"
I [28/May/2005:19:51:27 -0400] Configured for up to 100 clients.
I [28/May/2005:19:51:27 -0400] Allowing up to 100 client connections per
host.
I [28/May/2005:19:51:27 -0400] Full reload is required.
I [28/May/2005:19:51:33 -0400] LoadPPDs: Read "/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 16
PPDs...
I [28/May/2005:19:51:33 -0400] LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs...
E [28/May/2005:19:51:33 -0400] LoadAllJobs: Unable to queue job for
destination "http://tux:631/printers/DeskJet722C";!
E [28/May/2005:19:51:34 -0400] LoadAllJobs: Unable to queue job for
destination "http://tux:631/printers/DeskJet722C";!
I [28/May/2005:19:51:34 -0400] Full reload complete.
E [28/May/2005:19:51:34 -0400] StartListening: Unable to find IP address
for server name "tux" - Unknown host
E [28/May/2005:19:51:34 -0400] StartListening: Unable to bind socket for
address :631 - Address already in use.


None of the other logs have anyhting that jumps out at me, but this would
imply that cupsd is dying because my machine is naming itself "tux" and
cups cannot determine that means Localhost here.  Any gurus know how I
should go about fixing this?

Creighton

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Clamav out of date

2005-05-28 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, I saw that - but it's masked for some reason and I hesitate to 
install it until it's unmasked as I assume it's masked for a reason.  I 
was wondering if there was anything else I could or needed to do.  I guess 
I'll wait until 0.85 is unmasked.



On Sun, 29 May 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:


On Saturday 28 May 2005 23:53, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

During startup clamav tells me it's out of date.  If I run
freshclam I get the message below.  However, I'm running the most
current version in portage and haven't found anyting in bugzilla
about this.  What do I do to get the functionality level where
clamav will be happy?

ClamAV update process started at Sat May 28 18:52:09 2005
WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update
5


$ grep app-antivirus/clamav /etc/portage/package.keywords
app-antivirus/clamav ~x86




--

Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User #188143
Remove R777 to email
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] EVMS and the LiveCD 2005.0

2005-05-28 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I have a system with a SCSI hardware RAID - the RAID makes ukp device 
/dev/sda.  I want to use EVMS on it but not use an initrd for it.  I 
created partitions for /boot (/dev/sda1) and / (/dev/sda2) which is 
/mnt/gentoo at this point.  However, EVMS can not handle the fact that 
/dev/sda already has two partitions. From what I can see looking at the 
docs and the forums it needs the bd-claim patch applied but that's not 
done on the LiveCD so how do I set up my EVMS without an initrd?  The 
livecd doesn't give any options for that.


I get these errors

device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
device-mapper: error adding target to table

Thanks.


--

Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User #188143
Remove R777 to email
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Clamav out of date

2005-05-28 Thread Robert S
> Yes, I saw that - but it's masked for some reason and I hesitate to
> install it until it's unmasked as I assume it's masked for a reason.  I
> was wondering if there was anything else I could or needed to do.  I guess
> I'll wait until 0.85 is unmasked.

I've been using 0.85/0.85.1 and now 0.85.1-r1 with no problems.  I
always used to use the latest version compiled from source before I
started using gentoo.  Never had any problems related to the version. 
The clamav-milter startup script has been improved and the pid and
socket files have been moved to a much more logical place.  Expect to
do a small amount of fiddling.

If your life doesn't depend on it, you'd be OK using the latest.  I
think that you need the latest version to catch all the viri.

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Clamav out of date

2005-05-28 Thread Brett I. Holcomb

Thanks for the feedback.  I may give it a try here.
x
On Sun, 29 May 2005, Robert S wrote:


Yes, I saw that - but it's masked for some reason and I hesitate to
install it until it's unmasked as I assume it's masked for a reason.  I
was wondering if there was anything else I could or needed to do.  I guess
I'll wait until 0.85 is unmasked.


I've been using 0.85/0.85.1 and now 0.85.1-r1 with no problems.  I
always used to use the latest version compiled from source before I
started using gentoo.  Never had any problems related to the version.
The clamav-milter startup script has been improved and the pid and
socket files have been moved to a much more logical place.  Expect to
do a small amount of fiddling.

If your life doesn't depend on it, you'd be OK using the latest.  I
think that you need the latest version to catch all the viri.




--

Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User #188143
Remove R777 to email
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Printer setup tool

2005-05-28 Thread Holly Bostick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:

> 
> None of the other logs have anyhting that jumps out at me, but this would
> imply that cupsd is dying because my machine is naming itself "tux" and
> cups cannot determine that means Localhost here.  Any gurus know how I
> should go about fixing this?
> 
> Creighton
> 

Sounds like you need to edit /etc/hosts to tell the system that tux is a
synonym for localhost:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost tux

ought to do it.

Hope this helps,
Holly
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Slow data transfer over network

2005-05-28 Thread dannycat
Should you try add the 2 XP entries to /etc/resolv.conf, so that samba
can works more comfortable?

Stuart Howard wrote:

>Hi
>
>I have a small LAN at home with 2 winXP and 1 Gentoo [genstu] machines
>connected through a combined ADSLrouter etc.
>I have a problem whereby, I seem to have very slow data transfer
>speeds between my Gentoo machine and my XP machines as a guide here
>are some figures
>
>Transfer of a 66Mb file :-
>XP->gen 90 secs 700KB/s
>gen->XP 30 secs 2700KB/s
>XP->XP   7 secs ?KB/s
>
>The share on genstu is samba and I have also tried Winscp which gives
>a little improvement in performance but not much.
>The hardware is all relatively new and the NIC's were cheap and
>cheerful but 10/100.
>Some output:-
>lspci
>:00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 (rev 25)
>dmesg
>tulip0:  Index #251 - Media 10baseT(forced) (#12) described by a 21140
>non-MII (0) block.
>tulip0:  Index #252 - Media 10baseT-FDX (#20) described by a 21140
>non-MII (0) block.
>tulip0:  Index #253 - Media 10baseT (#0) described by a 21140 non-MII (0) 
>block.
>tulip0:  Index #254 - Media 10baseT (#0) described by a 21140 non-MII (0) 
>block.
>
>
>Originally I thought it would be Samba and my poor attempt at
>configuration but I am becoming more convinced that it may be a NIC
>issue or more likely the kernel and my configuration of that
>especially since I saw that dmesg output, the kernel was built using
>genkernel origianlly and has been updated once [make oldconfig] I also
>tried out my pure genkernel config and recieved the same performance.
>
>If anyone can suggest a solution :)
>
>or more reasonably somewhere to look it would be most grateful, as at
>the moment I have too many places to look for a problem with no guide
>ie. could it be the NIC, kernel, samba, XP, protocols or even because
>I just forgot to say please.
>
>Anyway thx for reading 
>
>stu
>
>  
>


-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] Another "cannot create executables" error

2005-05-28 Thread Anthony Tantillo
Hello all,

I have been getting the following error messages on whatever I try to emerge.  
I will use "emerge kover" as an example.

.
.
.
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C 
compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

!!! ERROR: app-cdr/kover-2.9.6 failed.
!!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 154, Exitcode 77
!!! died running ./configure, kde_src_compile:configure
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

If I check the config.log, I get the following.

gcc version 3.3.5  (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5-r1, ssp-3.3.2-3, pie-8.7.7.1)
configure:2741: $? = 0
configure:2743: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -V &5
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: `-V' option must have argument
configure:2746: $? = 1
configure:2769: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:2772: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe   conftest.c  >&5
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or 
d
irectory
configure:2775: $? = 2
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h.  */
|
| #define PACKAGE_NAME ""
| #define PACKAGE_TARNAME ""
| #define PACKAGE_VERSION ""
| #define PACKAGE_STRING ""
| #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT ""
| #define PACKAGE "kover"
| #define VERSION "2.9.6"
| /* end confdefs.h.  */

Any help would be aprreciated.

Tony
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread Zac Medico

--- Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- Jonathan Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The standard kernel should do fine. As far as the
> > system is concerned 
> 
> Sure but what about 64 bits?  CMIIW but new intel
> processors with EM64T are supposed to be x86_64
> compatible, right?  That would mean that the gentoo
> AMD64 project applies here.
> 

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11089374211&r=1&w=2

This has been discussed on the gentoo-amd64 list. 
Apparently the gentoo AMD64 installation kernel and
stages are compiled for generic x86_64 which allows
them to run on intel EM64T systems.

Zac



__ 
Do you Yahoo!? 
Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Another "cannot create executables" error

2005-05-28 Thread dannycat
Anthony Tantillo wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I have been getting the following error messages on whatever I try to emerge.  
>I will use "emerge kover" as an example.
>
>.
>.
>.
>checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C 
>compiler cannot create executables
>See `config.log' for more details.
>
>!!! ERROR: app-cdr/kover-2.9.6 failed.
>!!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 154, Exitcode 77
>!!! died running ./configure, kde_src_compile:configure
>!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
>message.
>
>If I check the config.log, I get the following.
>
>gcc version 3.3.5  (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5-r1, ssp-3.3.2-3, pie-8.7.7.1)
>configure:2741: $? = 0
>configure:2743: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -V &5
>i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: `-V' option must have argument
>configure:2746: $? = 1
>configure:2769: checking for C compiler default output file name
>configure:2772: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe   conftest.c  >&5
>i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or 
>d
>irectory
>configure:2775: $? = 2
>configure: failed program was:
>| /* confdefs.h.  */
>|
>| #define PACKAGE_NAME ""
>| #define PACKAGE_TARNAME ""
>| #define PACKAGE_VERSION ""
>| #define PACKAGE_STRING ""
>| #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT ""
>| #define PACKAGE "kover"
>| #define VERSION "2.9.6"
>| /* end confdefs.h.  */
>
>Any help would be aprreciated.
>
>Tony
>  
>
Check your /usr/bin/as link.

$ ls -l /usr/bin/as
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 May 25 03:18 /usr/bin/as -> i686-pc-linux-gnu-as
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Dual Boot

2005-05-28 Thread AJ Spagnoletti
My setup prior to having grub put on hda was as follows..
hda1 = windows partion
hdb1 = linux boot partition

I had grub installed on hdb1 and planned to boot my computer from that
drive. So because in BIOS I was booting from the slave drive grub
reads that drive as (hd0,x) I understand completely that grub reads
drive then partition and both count from zero as the first. Just
wanted to clarify this

A.J.

On 5/28/05, Mark Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No.
> 
> Completely going by the gentoo install handbook excerpt you pasted,
> the grub device/partition referencing is formatted like this: hd #>,, not hd,.  So, hda1 would be
> hd0,0  NOT hd1,0   .  hd1,0 would reference drive 2, partition 1
> (/dev/hdb1).

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Back up again

2005-05-28 Thread Antonino Sabetta
2005/5/28, Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> After a lot of testing and testing of different methods to make backups I

It seems that all your requirements are met by a very smart backup
tool called flexbackup. Have you had a look at it? It does local and
remote backup, can use tar, can do full, incremental or differential backups.

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Another "cannot create executables" error

2005-05-28 Thread Chris Woods
On Saturday 28 May 2005 22:51, dannycat wrote:
> Anthony Tantillo wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I have been getting the following error messages on whatever I try to
> > emerge. I will use "emerge kover" as an example.

[...]

> >configure:2772: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe   conftest.c 
> > >&5 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No
> > such file or d
> >irectory

[...]

I just went through this exact thing. man binutils-config.

Chris
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Core 64/Intel

2005-05-28 Thread timothy johnson
A little note on the Intel Dual Core CPUs goes. They have two models.
First one for $300 2.8Ghz but doesnt have HyperThreading, the Extreme
Edition has Hyperthreading, but costs around $1100. But as two my
original question it was more a question about intels 64bit if that
was working in linux yet? But I am kinda hearing that it is.

On 5/28/05, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- Jonathan Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The standard kernel should do fine. As far as the
> > > system is concerned
> >
> > Sure but what about 64 bits?  CMIIW but new intel
> > processors with EM64T are supposed to be x86_64
> > compatible, right?  That would mean that the gentoo
> > AMD64 project applies here.
> >
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11089374211&r=1&w=2
> 
> This has been discussed on the gentoo-amd64 list.
> Apparently the gentoo AMD64 installation kernel and
> stages are compiled for generic x86_64 which allows
> them to run on intel EM64T systems.
> 
> Zac
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site
> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread askar ...
Hello!

Does anybody know how to delete messages from server when the messages
deleted in Kmail ? It is possible to so in Outlook express and MS
Outlook.

askar

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Slow data transfer over network

2005-05-28 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 28 May 2005, Stuart Howard wrote:

> lsmod returns "tulip"
>
> The switch is :-
>
> Supports 4 10/100 Auto MDI-X
> Ethernet switch ports and 1 Line
> port
>
>
> and using "modinfo tulip" I get
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] stuart # modinfo tulip
> author: The Linux Kernel Team
> description:Digital 21*4* Tulip ethernet driver
> license:GPL
> version:1.1.13
> parmtype:   tulip_debug:int
> parmtype:   max_interrupt_work:int
> parmtype:   rx_copybreak:int
> parmtype:   csr0:int
> parmtype:   options:array of int
> parmtype:   full_duplex:array of int
> vermagic:   2.6.11.5 486 gcc-3.3
> depends:
> alias:  pci:v1011d0009sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
> 30 more lines of similar to above alias [1 line easier on eyes]
>
> The NIC in genstu is exactly the same model as the NIC in one of the
> XP machines and data transfer between the two XP machines via the
> switch is way in excess of 10Mb [dont have anything prog on XP to
> quantify this, except the analogue graph in task manager]

You might want to look at the tulip-diag utility here:
http://www.scyld.com/ethercard_diag.html

-- 

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread Dmitri Vassilenko
On Saturday May 28 2005 23:26, askar ... wrote:
> Does anybody know how to delete messages from server when the messages
> deleted in Kmail ?

It's embarrassing, but that feature was only recently implemented. It should 
be available in the next release.

See: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38177

Cheers,
Dmitri
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread Dmitri Vassilenko
On Saturday May 28 2005 23:26, askar ... wrote:
> Does anybody know how to delete messages from server when the messages
> deleted in Kmail ?

I just realized I mentioned the wrong feature. The one you're referring to 
hasn't been implemented yet. :(

Its bug report: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31114

Cheers,
Dmitri
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] cant build gcc on installation emerge --newuse system

2005-05-28 Thread michael

Thanks for posting and filing this. I just received this error and was
sure it was operator error (i.e. my fault).

Is there any workaround, even if somewhat unefficient? I'm installing a
test system so my main concern is getting a running system, even if it's
not optimized in every possible way.

Thanks,
Michael


On Sun, 29 May 2005, Khan wrote:


Aaron Urbain wrote:

* Running make LDFLAGS="" STAGE1_CFLAGS="-O"
LIBPATH="/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130"
BOOT_CFLAGS=" -O2 -march=i686 -pipe" profiledbootstrap
make: *** No rule to make target `profiledbootstrap'.  Stop.


Hmmm, this looks serious. I have filled a bug:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94318
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list




--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread askar ...
> > Does anybody know how to delete messages from server when the messages
> > deleted in Kmail ?
> 
> It's embarrassing, but that feature was only recently implemented. It should
> be available in the next release.
> 
> See: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38177
Thanks.
But I mean different thing - when I delete a message and empty trash,
that message has to deleted from the server. Is it possible?

I'm using kde 3.3.2 and kmail 1.7.2.


askar

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread askar ...
I see. Very sad.

Do other mail clients like sylpheed-claws or thunderbird support this feature?

askar

On 5/29/05, Dmitri Vassilenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday May 28 2005 23:26, askar ... wrote:
> > Does anybody know how to delete messages from server when the messages
> > deleted in Kmail ?
> 
> I just realized I mentioned the wrong feature. The one you're referring to
> hasn't been implemented yet. :(
> 
> Its bug report: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31114
> 
> Cheers,
> Dmitri
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread Taylor Morrow
I've used kmail before and it always has deleted it from the server. 
You have to choose the option to delete it from the server when
downloaded though.

If you mean that you want to leave it on the server until it is
deleted from kmail, then I don't know.  I've never seen this in either
of the others you've mentioned either, though, so...

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread askar ...
The feature I mean is very useful when you delete, for example, spam
email. When you epmty trash the appropriate message also will be
deleted from the server, leaving the other not deleted mail.
And when you check email from another PC, you can download the
messages left in server whithout spam mail.

askar

On 5/29/05, Taylor Morrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've used kmail before and it always has deleted it from the server.
> You have to choose the option to delete it from the server when
> downloaded though.
> 
> If you mean that you want to leave it on the server until it is
> deleted from kmail, then I don't know.  I've never seen this in either
> of the others you've mentioned either, though, so...
> 
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread Dmitri Vassilenko
On Sunday May 29 2005 00:29, askar ... wrote:
> I see. Very sad.
>
> Do other mail clients like sylpheed-claws or thunderbird support this
> feature?

I haven't used sylpheed, but thunderbird does indeed delete messages from the 
server if you move them to Trash.

Cheers,
Dmitri
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread Phil Sexton
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 23:26, askar wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Does anybody know how to delete messages from server when the messages
> deleted in Kmail ? It is possible to so in Outlook express and MS
> Outlook.
> 
> askar

I don't use Kmail, but does it have a local delivery option?

If so, I suggest using fetchmail.  It's highly configurable.  I run the
Evolution mail client (and mutt if I have X broken at the moment) and
set Evolution to use /var/spool/mail/ to get the mail.

I really need to get around to configuring procmail to sort and deliver
it to the Evolution/mutt mail directories.

-- 
Phil
Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy
Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread askar ...
Thanks

On 5/29/05, Dmitri Vassilenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday May 29 2005 00:29, askar ... wrote:
> > I see. Very sad.
> >
> > Do other mail clients like sylpheed-claws or thunderbird support this
> > feature?
> 
> I haven't used sylpheed, but thunderbird does indeed delete messages from the
> server if you move them to Trash.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dmitri
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Dual Boot

2005-05-28 Thread Walter Willis
use in the configuration 
title=Windows ME
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
map hd0 hd1   <-
makeactive
chainloader +1



2005/5/28, AJ Spagnoletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My setup prior to having grub put on hda was as follows..
> hda1 = windows partion
> hdb1 = linux boot partition
> 
> I had grub installed on hdb1 and planned to boot my computer from that
> drive. So because in BIOS I was booting from the slave drive grub
> reads that drive as (hd0,x) I understand completely that grub reads
> drive then partition and both count from zero as the first. Just
> wanted to clarify this
> 
> A.J.
> 
> On 5/28/05, Mark Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No.
> >
> > Completely going by the gentoo install handbook excerpt you pasted,
> > the grub device/partition referencing is formatted like this: hd > #>,, not hd,.  So, hda1 would be
> > hd0,0  NOT hd1,0   .  hd1,0 would reference drive 2, partition 1
> > (/dev/hdb1).
> 
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
>

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Back up with no root

2005-05-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 03:33:51PM -0300, Pupeno wrote

> My question is, how do I run a command like this:
> rsync --verbose --checksum --archive --partial --progress --rsh="ssh" [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:/var/ ./var/
> having root-privileges on the server.

  I think you're going about it the wrong way.

  - can you set up a cron job on the remote machine to push the backup
to your machine (or where-ever)?  The cron job can run the backup as
root, so you wouldn't need to worry about permissions.

  - Google on the search term
+ssh +"remote backup"
for a whole bunch of examples.

-- 
Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An infinite number of monkeys pounding away on keyboards will
eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure,
and has a lower TCO, than linux.
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Clamav out of date

2005-05-28 Thread Rumen Yotov
Robert S wrote:

>>Yes, I saw that - but it's masked for some reason and I hesitate to
>>install it until it's unmasked as I assume it's masked for a reason.  I
>>was wondering if there was anything else I could or needed to do.  I guess
>>I'll wait until 0.85 is unmasked.
>>
>>
>
>I've been using 0.85/0.85.1 and now 0.85.1-r1 with no problems.  I
>always used to use the latest version compiled from source before I
>started using gentoo.  Never had any problems related to the version. 
>The clamav-milter startup script has been improved and the pid and
>socket files have been moved to a much more logical place.  Expect to
>do a small amount of fiddling.
>
>If your life doesn't depend on it, you'd be OK using the latest.  I
>think that you need the latest version to catch all the viri.
>
>  
>
Hi,
Had this problem too, even more clamav (x86) wasn't working with
qmail-scanner at all.
Went to ~x86 and it works. Maybe 0.85.1 should be made stable, not just
as a warning ;)
HTH. Rumen


smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread askar ...
On 5/29/05, Phil Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 23:26, askar wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > Does anybody know how to delete messages from server when the messages
> > deleted in Kmail ? It is possible to so in Outlook express and MS
> > Outlook.
> >
> > askar
> 
> I don't use Kmail, but does it have a local delivery option?
> 
> If so, I suggest using fetchmail.  It's highly configurable.  I run the
> Evolution mail client (and mutt if I have X broken at the moment) and
> set Evolution to use /var/spool/mail/ to get the mail.
> 
> I really need to get around to configuring procmail to sort and deliver
> it to the Evolution/mutt mail directories.
Do you mean I can use both Kmail and fetchmail. And fetchmail will do
that feature I want?
My kmail has Mail directory used by kmail.

askar

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

2005-05-28 Thread Phil Sexton
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 01:46, askar wrote:

> Do you mean I can use both Kmail and fetchmail. And fetchmail will do
> that feature I want?

I have my fetchmail to delete the mail after it delivers the mail to my
mail spool as my ISP offers so little storage space, but I believe so.

See:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/

and

http://www.hserus.net/pop_smtp.html

-- 
Phil
Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy
Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-user] can't install Xosview

2005-05-28 Thread askar ...
Hello!

I can't install xosview for a long time.
Below I picked up error related info.

askar


configure: WARNING: iostream: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: iostream: check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: iostream: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
configure: WARNING: ##
-- ##
configure: WARNING: ## Report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
configure: WARNING: ##
-- ##
checking for iostream... yes
checking fstream usability... no
checking fstream presence... yes
configure: WARNING: fstream: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: fstream: check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: fstream: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
configure: WARNING: ##
-- ##
configure: WARNING: ## Report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
configure: WARNING: ##
-- ##
...
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/xosview-1.8.2/work/xosview-1.8.2/linux'

!!! ERROR: x11-misc/xosview-1.8.2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 29, Exitcode 2
!!! compilation failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list