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Problem with JAVA.. I have implementet in .profile as: but i keep getting this> /java/jdk1.2.2/bin/java: /bin/realpath/: No such file or directory java not found in /bin/i386/green_threads/java CAN ANY ONE PLEASE HLLLPP RASMUS
3c509 problems with 2.4.20 kernel
Hi, I just upgraded to 2.4.20 and my network stopped working... :( I Googled around and it looks like there have been quite a few changes with 2.4.20. At the moment the machine's running with a via-rhine card, but I'd like to get the 3c509 back again. I ran 'modprobe isa-pnp' and then 'modprobe 3c509'. It dies with: /lib/modules/2.4.20-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg /lib/modules/2.4.20-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.20-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o: insmod 3c509 failed There's nothing useful in dmesg or syslog. I edited /etc/modules.conf to add 'alias eth1 3c509' as the last line. There doesn't seem to be a /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/net-modules.txt file in this release so I don't know what to set 'options' to. Any suggestions?! Thanks, C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3c509 problems with 2.4.20 kernel
C wrote: > Hi, I just upgraded to 2.4.20 and my network stopped working... :( Err, scratch that - I just loaded 3c59x ;) C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LM Sensors
Any one got any advice how to get lmsensors working on a 2.4.21-5-k7 kernel? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel compilation error.......
Hi there I recently upgraded my machinevia apt.this included a glibc6/-dev upgrade amongst other things. now when compiling a kernel...even one known to previously compileit fails at this point every time drivers/net/net.o(.data+0xd4): undefined reference to `local symbols in discarded section .text.exit' make[1]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux' make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 The versions of my curreent packages are: libc6 2.2.4-7 libc6-dev 2.2.4-7 kernel-package 7.75 gcc2.95.4-9 gcc-2.95 2.95.4-0.01100 make 3.79.1-10 Any offered assistance in how to acertain further information about this bug would be apreciated Many thanks CraigT
Re: Kernel compilation error.......
I have tried with same options as installed kernelalso with kernels .14 and .16 sourcealso got another person to check...see i wasnt madlol.. this is why i think it might be the C libs c^ - Original Message - From: "J.A.Serralheiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Kernel compilation error... > well I had trouble like those some times, and I assume that is something > related with a misconfigured kernel configuration file. I reinstalled the > source ( lazy ) and reconfigured the kernel to compile, and everything > went just fine. > > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, C wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I recently upgraded my machinevia apt.this included a glibc6/-dev > > upgrade amongst other things. > > now when compiling a kernel...even one known to previously compileit > > fails at this point every time > > > > drivers/net/net.o(.data+0xd4): undefined reference to `local symbols in > > discarded section .text.exit' > > make[1]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux' > > make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 > > > > The versions of my curreent packages are: > > libc6 2.2.4-7 > > libc6-dev 2.2.4-7 > > kernel-package 7.75 > > gcc2.95.4-9 > > gcc-2.95 2.95.4-0.01100 > > make 3.79.1-10 > > > > Any offered assistance in how to acertain further information about this bug > > would be apreciated > > > > Many thanks > > CraigT > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >
exim mrtg
can anyone plz point me to a source of mrtg scripts/source for exim monitoring..or a howto many thanks c^
keymap problem??
Hi all I have a problem that has bugged me for some timeand i cant work out the cause. I have one machine that when i connect to it remotely does not allow the use of certain control characters.this is most noticable with the pgup and pgdn keys plz help c^
Re: /var/cache/apt/archives
just to point out again automatic removal of old .deb's can lead to more
hassle if you need to roll back to the previous version.testthen
clean.
;)
- Original Message -
From: "Sander Smeenk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "David Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: /var/cache/apt/archives
> Quoting David Wright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > I'm relatively new to Debian, and I just discovered that I have
> > accumulated over 1G of .deb's in /var/cache/apt/archives. Can the
> > contents of this directory be regularly wiped? Why isn't their a cron
> > job to do this by default -- does one loose something?
>
> You can best run apt-get autoclean, it removes all .deb files that are
> no longer on your system, or whose version is older than the one
> currently installed.
>
> Also you can edit/create a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ called 99local
> which holds the following:
>
> DSelect { Clean "auto" }
>
> to do the cleaning automaticaly after each time you use apt.
>
> Regards,
> Sander.
>
> --
> | "I'm going to destroy you ... but first, I have to scratch my leg ...
> | HEY!!! YOU GAVE ME THE WRONG SCRIPT"
> | -- Buttercup
>
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Re: How do I show filesystem?
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Reg. Debian OS hardware certification for Servers.
Dear Sir/Madam, Greetings!! Velankani is a key player in the IT industry, dedicated to pushing the boundaries of innovation and commitment to indigenous server design and its role in the "Make in India" revolution. Velankani has designed and manufactured 2-socket server that features a 2U rack design with support for AMD EPYC Family processors and GPUs. We would like to qualify and certifying our server products with Debian OS hardware certification to meet specific standards. Please support us and guide and share the process to enroll in the hardware certification program. Below are the server models which needs to be certified for Debian OS hardware certification. PRYSM-AR22R1 PRYSM-AR22R1 is a 2-socket 2U server that features the AMD EPYC 7002 "Rome" and AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" families of processors, 3200 MHz memory and PCIe Gen 4.0 support Support 32 DIMM slots with two processors (16 DIMM slots per processor). Each processor has 8 memory channels, with 2 DIMMs per channel (DPC) Support hot-swap drive of 18 x 2.5" SATA SSD and 6 x 2.5" NVMe drives. PRYSM-AR22G1 PRYSM-AR22G1 is a 2-socket 2U server that features the AMD EPYC™ 9004 Series Server Processor families of processors, 4800 MHz memory and PCIe Gen 5.0 support Support 24 DIMM slots with two processors (12 DIMM slots per processor). Each processor has 12 memory channels, with 1 DIMMs per channel (DPC) Support hot-swap drive of 16 x 2.5" NVMe and 8 x 2.5" SATA SSD drives. Regards, Mahendiran C Mob.: 91-9677305572 | E-mail: mailto:mahendi...@velankanigroup.com Work: 91-8046537132 Velankani Electronics and Automotive Pvt Ltd., 43, Electronics City| Hosur Road| Bengaluru| Karnataka 560100.
Re: Reg. Debian OS hardware certification for Servers.
Dear Andrew, Thanks for your confirmation. Regards, Mahendiran C Mob.: 91-9677305572 | E-mail: mailto:mahendi...@velankanigroup.com Work: 91-8046537132 Velankani Electronics and Automotive Pvt Ltd., 43, Electronics City| Hosur Road| Bengaluru| Karnataka 560100. On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:00:46 +0530 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote --- On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 09:50:51AM +0530, Mahendiran C Mahendiran C wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > Have a Great Day!! > > > > May I have support for the below trail request to get server hardware > certification for DEBIAN OS. > > Debian doesn't offer hardware certification. if your systems will run Debian with a Debian kernel, that's fine. Offer to support Debian through your company. [See. for example,https://www.debian.org/consultants/] Chances are it will all be fine. If so, there's a series of pages in the Debian wiki called InstallingDebianOn which detail success/failure in installing Debian on various hardware - add your system there. Hope this helps, Andrew Cater (mailto:amaca...@debian.org) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Mahendiran C > > Mob.: 91-9677305572 | E-mail: mailto:mailto:mahendi...@velankanigroup.com > > Work: 91-8046537132 > > Velankani Electronics and Automotive Pvt Ltd., > > 43, Electronics City| Hosur Road| Bengaluru| Karnataka 560100. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:00:04 +0530 Mahendiran C Mahendiran C > <mailto:mahendi...@velankanigroup.com> wrote --- > > > > Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > Greetings!! > > > > Velankani is a key player in the IT industry, dedicated to pushing the > boundaries of innovation and commitment to indigenous server design and its > role in the "Make in India" revolution. > > > > Velankani has designed and manufactured 2-socket server that features a 2U > rack design with support for AMD EPYC Family processors and GPUs. > > > > We would like to qualify and certifying our server products with Debian OS > hardware certification to meet specific standards. > > > > Please support us and guide and share the process to enroll in the hardware > certification program. > > > > Below are the server models which needs to be certified for Debian OS > hardware certification. > > > > PRYSM-AR22R1 > > > > PRYSM-AR22R1 is a 2-socket 2U server that features the AMD EPYC 7002 "Rome" > and AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" families of processors, 3200 MHz memory and PCIe > Gen 4.0 support > > Support 32 DIMM slots with two processors (16 DIMM slots per processor). Each > processor has 8 memory channels, with 2 DIMMs per channel (DPC) > > Support hot-swap drive of 18 x 2.5" SATA SSD and 6 x 2.5" NVMe drives. > > > > > > PRYSM-AR22G1 > > > > PRYSM-AR22G1 is a 2-socket 2U server that features the AMD EPYC™ 9004 Series > Server Processor families of processors, 4800 MHz memory and PCIe Gen 5.0 > support > > Support 24 DIMM slots with two processors (12 DIMM slots per processor). Each > processor has 12 memory channels, with 1 DIMMs per channel (DPC) > > Support hot-swap drive of 16 x 2.5" NVMe and 8 x 2.5" SATA SSD drives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Mahendiran C > > Mob.: 91-9677305572 | E-mail: mailto:mailto:mahendi...@velankanigroup.com > > Work: 91-8046537132 > > Velankani Electronics and Automotive Pvt Ltd., > > 43, Electronics City| Hosur Road| Bengaluru| Karnataka 560100.
Re: Reg. Debian OS hardware certification for Servers.
Dear Sir/Madam, Have a Great Day!! May I have support for the below trail request to get server hardware certification for DEBIAN OS. Regards, Mahendiran C Mob.: 91-9677305572 | E-mail: mailto:mahendi...@velankanigroup.com Work: 91-8046537132 Velankani Electronics and Automotive Pvt Ltd., 43, Electronics City| Hosur Road| Bengaluru| Karnataka 560100. On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:00:04 +0530 Mahendiran C Mahendiran C wrote --- Dear Sir/Madam, Greetings!! Velankani is a key player in the IT industry, dedicated to pushing the boundaries of innovation and commitment to indigenous server design and its role in the "Make in India" revolution. Velankani has designed and manufactured 2-socket server that features a 2U rack design with support for AMD EPYC Family processors and GPUs. We would like to qualify and certifying our server products with Debian OS hardware certification to meet specific standards. Please support us and guide and share the process to enroll in the hardware certification program. Below are the server models which needs to be certified for Debian OS hardware certification. PRYSM-AR22R1 PRYSM-AR22R1 is a 2-socket 2U server that features the AMD EPYC 7002 "Rome" and AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" families of processors, 3200 MHz memory and PCIe Gen 4.0 support Support 32 DIMM slots with two processors (16 DIMM slots per processor). Each processor has 8 memory channels, with 2 DIMMs per channel (DPC) Support hot-swap drive of 18 x 2.5" SATA SSD and 6 x 2.5" NVMe drives. PRYSM-AR22G1 PRYSM-AR22G1 is a 2-socket 2U server that features the AMD EPYC™ 9004 Series Server Processor families of processors, 4800 MHz memory and PCIe Gen 5.0 support Support 24 DIMM slots with two processors (12 DIMM slots per processor). Each processor has 12 memory channels, with 1 DIMMs per channel (DPC) Support hot-swap drive of 16 x 2.5" NVMe and 8 x 2.5" SATA SSD drives. Regards, Mahendiran C Mob.: 91-9677305572 | E-mail: mailto:mahendi...@velankanigroup.com Work: 91-8046537132 Velankani Electronics and Automotive Pvt Ltd., 43, Electronics City| Hosur Road| Bengaluru| Karnataka 560100.
Bind9 Files for Debian
Hi,
I'm trying to read the DNS HOWTO at:
http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/
and am running into some confusion because Debian (woody) seems to name some
of the files differently than the HOWTO.
For instance, the HOWTO suggests the following in its example named.conf:
zone "." {
type hint;
file "root.hints";
};
zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" {
type master;
file "pz/127.0.0";
};
which would give me a subdirectoy pz with a file called 127.0.0 in it.
Instead Debian's default named.conf has zones for ., localhost, 127, 0, and
255. This gives me files db.root, db.local, db.127, db.0, and db.255
respectively.
I guess my question is: If I want to follow the HOWTO, do I need to add a
zone for 127.0.0, as is done in the HOWTO example, or is that zone already
covered by one of the above Debian ones? And when the HOWTO goes on to
describe what the file 127.0.0 should contain, which of db.local, db.127,
db.0, db.255 should be comparably changed, if any? Should I instead make a
db.127.0.0 file and put it in there or is that somehow redundant?
Thanks for any help on this!
P.S. Please remove NOSPAM from my e-mail address above and cc me!
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Re: moving boot drive around and lilo
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:10:12 +0200, james terris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course now I have a new problem. > When I reboot I get: > > LI > > So I changed lilo.conf from: > disk=/dev/hde > bios=0x80 > boot=/dev/hda > root=/dev/hde1 > > to: > #disk=/dev/hde > #bios=0x80 > boot=/dev/hda > root=/dev/hde1 > > and now I get: > LILO 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 > 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 > 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 > > until I reboot it. > > Any ideas what could be causing either of those problems? > On reviewing the lilo documentation (/usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz) LILO depends on the BIOS to load the following items: - /boot/boot.b - /boot/map (created when running /sbin/lilo) - all kernels - the boot sectors of all other operating systems it boots - the startup message, if one has been defined I believe even newer BIOSes are limited to 4 disks, older ones may be limited to 2, so you could try moving the disk to a a different controller or putting /boot on /dev/hd[a-d]. I have no idea of Grubs limitations as I've been happy with lilo. GL, Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bind setup on Woody
Hi, Here's what I'd like to do. I've been fumbling with it for months and just can't seem to find resources out there that are easy enough to understand: 1. Configure BIND on a woody box so that it is the nameserver for a domain name I've registered. The domain is just parked with the registrar now. The BIND How-To baffles me, as I have just a single static IP address and all the config files in the How-To differ from the Debian ones. 2. I have the same woody box running Apache and I see the test page if I type my IP address in a web browser from a remote location, but of course, typing the domain name goes to the parking page. Am I right to think that doing #1 correctly above is what will associate my domain name with my IP address? 3. I actually have several domain names and would sort of like to host all of them on this one box. I vaguely understand that i want to do "virtual hosting" but don't know how to implement that. 4. This woody box is behind a D-Link 614+ Router that includes a firewall. If I try to do virtual hosting, what if anything about its configuration should change? 5. I'd also like to have this same woody box handle mail for these domains (they get very little), perhaps qmail. This is a recently purchased box with new hardware, lots of memory and processing speed, etc. But am I starting to push my luck making it serve all these functions? Also, I don't know how to set up qmail. 6. Even worse, I want it to run a MySQL database or two, so that one or two of the domains can run Movable Type blogs. And, you guessed it: I don't know how to set MySQL databases up either. Pointers to clear resources, explanations on the list, and prayers for enlightenment are all welcome. Thanks. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Video Card for Woody
Hi, I'm having trouble getting my Matrox G550 working with Debian, because it is not supported in the version of XFree86 that is installed with Woody. I've successfully upgraded XFree86 to unstable but X still barfs when I try to start it. (mga_hal module doesn't exist, etc.) Anyway, that's not really the point, unless someone wants to tell me step-by-step how they got their G550 working. My question is: What IS an available, cheap, but not too ancient video card that will automagically work with the default Woody install? For instance, would the ATI Radeon 9000 work? How far up ATI's numbering system can I go before there's trouble? I'm not using the card for 3d gaming or video editing. We're talking e-mail and word-processing here, so a fifty dollar card or so is what I'd like. At the same time, I don't want some ancient card that is going to be the weak link in an otherwise very up-to-date system (because I believe one day Sarge will be officially released, etc.) ;-) Please CC my address as I'm going to have to unsubscribe. Can't handle the volume! Thanks! Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Am I ready for the internet?
In linux.debian.user, Jimmy Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have set up Iptables so that I reject > all incomming traffic, except the traffic I have requested, because I > don't need incomming SSH or anything like that. While I believe it breaks something, if you're not serving the internet, I'd drop incoming traffic as opposed to rejecting it, that way you are stealth. Just my $0.02. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sourcing of ~/.profile at login
In linux.debian.user, Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Smith wrote: > > > > .. If you're using a graphical login manager like GDM or > > XDM, then these methods of login never actually invoke a login shell, > > Why not? (Why shouldn't logging in via GDM execute your login-time > shell initialization?) > Because [GKX]DM open window managers, not login shells. Though I admit it doesn't feel right that your environment is different if you use [gkx]dm than if you login in text mode and issue startx. You can modify the [gkx]dmrc, your window manager's rc file, or you start your programs from an xterm. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slrn
Does anyone else use slrn to read this list? If so, are ther any suggestions on how to cleanup the posts. I see a lot of lines that end in '=20', and that looks like something that outlook used to do(does?). TIA Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which FS to use ?
In linux.debian.user, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you define small file for me ? Less than 1K. > Sorry for the bold italics, but I was getting sick of indenting with > > line by line. Lotus Notes is probably the most stupid email clients > around when it comes to that Please go back to using a visible quoting mechanism. I just added ] as a quoting indicator to my .slrnrc for someone, but at least that was visible. I'm following the list in slrn, it treats text as text and it strips attributes. I had to reread the entire post to see what was added based on context. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
In linux.debian.user, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:22, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:08:42 -0600 > > "Walt L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails > > > that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming > > > is increasing exponentially. > > > > My solution has been exim4, exiscan-acl, clamav, spamassassin and liberal > > use of shorewall's blacklist. > > Does that prevent the emails from being downloaded from the ISP's > pop3 server in the 1st place? I asked this on alt.os.linux. I was told to search freshmeat.net for a perl script called "poppy." It will get headers only, and ask what you want to do with the mail one by one, but it also includes a script called spamkill, which does okay. I'm debugging some changes I made now. I tweaked it so if my email isn't in the To:, Cc:, or Bcc: header it should be considered spam. Right now To:, and Cc: both work. Any other headers that I need to check for? BTW my normal traffic had been 23-30 messages a day for about two weeks, it was close to half that 2 months ago. I know I've topped 350 in the last 24 hours. I wonder if this is a particularly nasty bug, or we're feeling the effects of Verisign's decision to claim *.com and *.net? Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slrn
In linux.debian.user, Andy Firman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 01:54:55PM -0400, Michael C. wrote: > > Does anyone else use slrn to read this list? If so, > > are ther any suggestions on how to cleanup the posts. > > > > I see a lot of lines that end in '=20', and that looks > > like something that outlook used to do(does?). > > I think it has to do with the Kmail email client. > > This was discussed on our LUG list and you can read > a relevant post here: > > http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/aklug/archive/2003-01/0006.html While it's nice to know that it's KMail that's misconfigured and not MSOE, the post doesn't help me make it any more readable from Slrn. Does the mailing list support "X-NoArchive?" If so it might be worth reposting with "Subject: KMail," it might be useful to someone, but probably doesn't need to be recorded for posterity. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 18:30:16 +0200, csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Sat, 20 Sep 2003 06:16:31 -0400, > Michael C. wrote: > > > > In linux.debian.user, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:22, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:08:42 -0600 > > > > "Walt L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails > > > > > that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming > > > > > is increasing exponentially. > > > > > > > > My solution has been exim4, exiscan-acl, clamav, > > > > spamassassin and liberal use of shorewall's blacklist. > > > > > > Does that prevent the emails from being downloaded from the ISP's > > > pop3 server in the 1st place? > > > > I asked this on alt.os.linux. I was told to search > > freshmeat.net for a perl script called "poppy." It will get > > headers only, and ask what you want to do with the mail one by > > one, but it also includes a script called spamkill, which does > > okay. > > > > I'm debugging some changes I made now. I tweaked it so if my > > email isn't in the To:, Cc:, or Bcc: header it should be > > considered spam. > > > > Right now To:, and Cc: both work. > > > > Any other headers that I need to check for? > > Check for size. Delete everything over 40K. > My ISP thinks it's doing me a favor by removing windows executables and throwing a virus warning in as an attachment in its place. So most of this junk is only around 15K but on dial-up it still bogs me down. Since I'm doing the filtering myself now, I wish they'd leave it be. I never liked them modifying my headers. Reading their headers it appears they do use SA, if it trims anything I guess I wouldn't know. The blocking windows executables is a nightmare too. I spent a few weeks helping a buddy with BASIC, I had to walk him through saving the mail as *.bas, and editing it because he didn't want to install WinZip. I tried getting an attached *.bas file that was stripped, and never heard from them. I can't imagine that these executables are actually being stored. I'm just glad I'm using Linux right now, I never learned vbs and I'd sure hate to try to do all of this background stuff with bat files and windows scheduler. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
In linux.debian.user, Jacob Anawalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael C. wrote: > > >I asked this on alt.os.linux. I was told to search freshmeat.net for a > >perl script called "poppy." It will get headers only, and ask what you > >want to do with the mail one by one, but it also includes a script > >called spamkill, which does okay. > > > >I'm debugging some changes I made now. I tweaked it so if my email > >isn't in the To:, Cc:, or Bcc: header it should be considered spam. > > > >Right now To:, and Cc: both work. > > > I am almost 100% positive that your mail server won't have a Bcc: header > for incoming mail. > > I imagine you have some whitelist rule for exceptions like the > debian-user list which should have it's address in the To: line instead > of your address. Sometimes debian-user goes on the Cc: line, which you > must be watching for as well. > Someone else mentioned this, I was happy with the script, I never said I had a clue. :) I've modified it since to check content-type: for multipart or html, and then kill it unless my address is in To: or Cc: As for the list, I opted not to subscribe. I read it off usenet using slrn. To reply I hit 't', Highlight "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"*, hit 't','r'. When gvim opens I type ':1O', middle click, 'jdd' Less convenient than hitting 'f', but I don't have to contend with several hundred emails a week. Okay, I didn't have to until someone decided it might be fun if the latest virus harvested emails from the debian archive on usenet.:( * the header is X-Reply-To. BTW, should I be leaving the To address as it appears, I believe the list gets emailed to subscribers, or people like me read the archives on usenet, I don't see any need to reply to an individual under normal circumstances. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Spam ideas for usenet/list harvested email addresses
In linux.debian.user, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 04:16:02PM -0500, Ray wrote: > > it seems to me the easiest solution would be for ISPs to have a > > policy and software that supported the policy of no .exe .com .src > > .pif .bat (etc...) attachments. any email will either be dropped or > > have the attachment dropped and replaced with a short explination of > > it being against policy and how to make a zip/gz/tar/whatever file if > > they really want to send a .exe > > That's exactly what we want to do: force the user to open a tarball to > figure out what's up. 8:oP Worm writers *will* adapt to this. > The problem is that the preview pane runs them automatically, If the file has to be handled at any point such as unzipping a file (Many windows users have no clue what a tar file is, and there's no reason they should.) it usually breaks the chain. I believe MS started defaulting to no executable by default a few viruses ago, with the option to turn it back on, they need to turn it off and leave it off. And stop hiding extensions. > > perhaps if someone wrote the "don't f*&$ open me"[1] virus and had it > > go through a little tutorial about why not to open unknow attachments > > have message go something like "I was foolish enough to open the > > attachment, and since you are at risk of getting a message from me > > with a virus, this attachment has forwarded itsself to you" They just had an anti-virus virus, which was at least as bad as the original. Pass thanks. > > Eh. The way I handled NIMDA and Code Red was to write a quick little > script with the help of an actually clueful MCSE that ran through the > apache error.log every hour and used wget to try and exploit the > offending machine and wipe the drive. After a week of that, there > were only four or five machines left that would go down for a few > days, then start trying again for a few minutes until the top of the > hour hit and got wiped again. Those morons had to have been > reinstalling windows two or three times a week. Ehh, you might have given the morons time to back up essential work, and seperated all the machines, verified they were clean, patched them. And educated the users, before putting them back on line. It would have eliminated the need to reinstall multiple times on the same machine, and it needed to be done anyhow. I hope your boss authorized it, preferably in writing, or they have a sense of humor. Otherwise I'd start looking for a job outside the IT industry. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting rid of worms and viruses
In linux.debian.user, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, once spamassassin learns the viruses, it'll detect it as spam. > This is extremely desirable: It gives you the opportunity to go romp > through headers and report them to the originating ISPs. > Idiot-hostile ISPs like NTL, dsl-only, and xprt.net (rightfully) > terminate customer contracts for such activity. And you verify the originating ISP how? Virus's have a slight tendency to forge headers. I've got spam from my address - I didn't send it, I don't think this virus has sent me anything as addressed to me from me, but I still wouldn't count on the headers being authentic. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?
In linux.debian.user, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kjetil writes: > > But you run the risk of making a lot of unpriviliged power users very > > angry if you do that. By forcing people to work around noexec, you make it easier to run something they shouldn't. IIUC, by working around the problem, the methods used don't require chmoding the file first. > > Such power users should be able to have the noexec removed on request. Of > course, they will be given a lecture and if they screw up will get no > sympathy. I wasn't aware that you can do this (unless you maintain different partitions for each user.) > > But I think I'll run home to mom and dad and do that on their > > machine... :-) > > They are exactly who it is for. > > > I think that's the wrong question to ask... I think the question is "will > > Linux vendors obey a market that wants executable files to be executed > > from email software if the user clicks on it?" > > Does the market really want that? Why? (That's an honest question. While > I know this feature exists on Windows, I've never seen an example of what > it is for.) I've seen plenty of examples of what this feature is used for, which is one of several reasons that I typically avoid MS. How else is a virus supposed to propagate? Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot loader question
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:30:15 +0200, Jason Housewright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings all. > > I am looking at possibly moving to Debian; I have a > question about the boot loader. I have used grub for > quite a while now. What is the default bl for Debian, > and if one is preferred over the other, is it > difficult to switch? Thanks in advance for any help > and/or for directing me to helpful sources. > As of 3.0r1 I believe it was still LILO, the key thing to remember is to run lilo after editing /etc/lilo.conf or modifying the partition table. Documention is extensive, but if the install doesn't set up windows, there is a fairly self explanatory example of how to set it up in the config file. I haven't gotten a handle on grub, but I've been using lilo for several years longer than grub has been around. Debian's lilo.conf contains more comments than you'll need to tweak it however you want. I don't recall if grub is available when installing, if not, installing it after the fact is trivial anyway. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?
In linux.debian.user, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A! > > I don't care if Linux has 90% desktop share, there's no way that an > auto-running (or double-click-needing) email virus is going to aff- > ect me, unless the people who write the MUA that I happen to be using > at the time *design* the MUA to do such a thing. > > But that won't happen. Why? Market forces, the way Adam Smith said > they should: when users find out about that bit of imbecility, they'll > move en masse to a different MUA. Such an MUA wouldn't be designed for us, but for clueless newbies that believe that it's supposed to work that way. And the people who know better will run, but it will in fact attract idiots that think, "Wow, it's just as easy as windows!", and the idiots will always hold the majority. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virus-infected hosts list
In linux.debian.user, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've started a virus infected hosts list that is net-lsearchable. > It's available at http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ and is updated when I get > more virus infected email or requests for removal. If I get a lot of > interest, I might make an RBL out of it. You realize of course that probably 60-70% are dynamic IPs. For example: 212.216.176.206 212.216.176.221 212.216.176.222 212.216.176.223 212.216.176.224 212.227.126.251 Are probably one or two people. My ISP usually increments the last number of my IP by one if I disconnect and reconnect. It's some poor sap, that can't understand why his connection is so fscking slow, and thinks if he disconnects and reconnects he'll get a better connection. Tommorrow someone else will be assigned those same IPs and you'll be blocking them even if they were never vulnerable to begin with. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A novice having trouble with X window on install
In linux.debian.user, Charles Forelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm in the midst of my first ever installation of Debian and I'm having > trouble with the graphical interface. I've completed the process (installing > the bf2.4 flavor with only desktop environment picked in tasksel -- I chose > not to run dselect yet). The install complete with a text log-in prompt. I > can login OK, both as the normal user I created and as root. But when I > reboot, I get a message right after the login prompt appears that says: > > I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it > is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to > diagnose the problem? > > My choices: Yes or No. > > I pick Yes and get a blank gray box. My only choice is EXIT, which I pick. > Then it says: > > Would you like me to try to run the X configuration program? Note that you > will need the root password for this. > > I pick Yes and give the root password. Then I get: > > I will now try to restart the X server again. > > I pick OK, and after a second or two pause, I'm back to the original I > cannot start the X server... message, whence I end up in an endless loop. > > Help! I'm totally flummoxed. Does anyone have a sense of what's gone wrong? > First, CTRL+ALT+F2, login as root type init 3 when it stops spitting messages out, xf86config answer the questions, save, and use startx `which twm` to test. HTH, Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virus-infected hosts list
In linux.debian.user, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:43:42AM -0400, Michael C. wrote: > > You realize of course that probably 60-70% are dynamic IPs. For example: > > > > 212.216.176.206 212.216.176.221 212.216.176.222 212.216.176.223 > > 212.216.176.224 212.227.126.251 > > > > Are probably one or two people. My ISP usually increments the last > > number of my IP by one if I disconnect and reconnect. It's some poor > > sap, that can't understand why his connection is so fscking slow, and > > thinks if he disconnects and reconnects he'll get a better connection. > > Yes, I know, but a lot of them are SMTP servers. The point is, I *am* > making headway against the virus deluge this way. It Works For Me, > YMMV, batteries not included, some assembly required. > Yes, it works, but you'll be adding IPs daily. > > Tommorrow someone else will be assigned those same IPs and you'll be > > blocking them even if they were never vulnerable to begin with. > > If it's a problem, they email me, and I pull the IP. If you don't accept email from the recipient, emailing you with the problem, ain't going to be easy. They need to use a different account. By the time you take action, they've logged out, and when they dial in again they'll get a different IP. And the next day someone else with the IP that you unblocked has a virus. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A novice having trouble with X window on install
In linux.debian.user, Charles Forelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, > > Thanks. I ran xf86config as you suggested, selecting the generic video card > option since I didn't see mine (Intel chipset 82810E) in the list. (I > checked XF86Config file, and it just put vga in for the driver. I tried > startx 'which twm' > > This is what I got back: > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or > directory > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: No such > file or directory > giving up. > xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > Now, I do have a /usr/bin/X11 directory, and there's lots of stuff in it, > but apparently not a file called 'X' > > That seems like a problem, right? I didn't do anything fancy, just used the > Debian installer. > That is definately a problem. Do you get anything with which X ? In the past X has always been a (sym)link to the appropriate server, in my case running Deb 3.0r1, XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1, X is an elf binary, not a link. You could try su -c "cd /usr/bin/X11 ; ln XFree86 X" As long as its already broken expertimenting can't hurt. Unfortunately I'd fall back on reinstalling, there should be a way to force the reinstall of just that package, I don't know for sure which package, and it's probably moderately large. Hopefully someone can give you details on which package and how to force it. Good Luck, Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank you Jan, Michael C. and steef...
In linux.debian.user, Charles Forelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...for your help with X-Window problem. It's working now. I did need to use > apt-get to install as steef suggested. It seems that critical part wasn't > installed. (Though a lot of other X-Window stuff was.) What package(s) did you have to apt-get install? I didn't see a message stating which package from Steef. BTW, please don't start multiple threads for the same problem, use reply/follow up whichever is appropriate. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with vchkpw
hello list when treatment to install the package vchkpw, during the process of installation, dpkg show the following error: localhost:/home/jcf# apt-get install vchkpw Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, vchkpw is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up vchkpw (3.1.2-11) ... Starting vchkpw pop daemon: qmail-pop3/etc/init.d/vchkpw: xrealloc: /home/packages/bash/bash-2.05b/print_cmd.c:1156: cannot reallocate 256 bytes (0 bytes allocated) dpkg: error processing vchkpw (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: vchkpw E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) localhost:/home/jcf# how I can solve it? thanks for everything and excuse the annoyances -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
some one have installed vchkpw??
hello list when treatment to install the package vchkpw, during the process of installation, dpkg show the following error: localhost:/home/jcf# apt-get install vchkpw Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, vchkpw is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up vchkpw (3.1.2-11) ... Starting vchkpw pop daemon: qmail-pop3/etc/init.d/vchkpw: xrealloc: /home/packages/bash/bash-2.05b/print_cmd.c:1156: cannot reallocate 256 bytes (0 bytes allocated) dpkg: error processing vchkpw (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: vchkpw E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) localhost:/home/jcf# how I can solve it? thanks for everything and excuse the annoyances -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some one have installed vchkpw??
hello in principle it wanted to thank for the answer them comment that I have proven with that of ulimit [...]A comment in a similar bug suggested removing the ulimit from /var/lib/dpkg/info/vchkpw.postinst and running 'dpkg --configure vchkpw'[...] of the following way ulimit -f unlimited /var/lib/dpkg/info/vchkpw.postinst but it continues showing the same error of always as far as bug, it has been reported does one year and 97 days (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=vchkpw) (excuse my form to write up the mail, still nonhandling to good English lenguage) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configuring?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I recently switched from Mandrake 9.0 to woody, because of many reasons, mostly because mandrake was getting slower than molasses in winter. I've run across some things I'm not used to and was wondering how to adjust them to my taste. First, I know that to see the boot-menu I have to hit shift, which I did not have to do in mandrake, as long as I had either install=/boot/boot-menu.b in lilo, or I had it linked (boot -> boot-menu.b). Can I get it to go to the menu without the need to shift? Second, I used to use drakfont to import my windows fonts to mandrake and they were useable by all applications. Defoma does not seem to provide this, or if it does, I am unable to understand the working as opposed to the one-click "get windows fonts" I am currently used to. Third, under kde, if i click the use anti-aliased font and icons box, it leaves me with a set of about ten fonts on my next login to kde. Under the old system it was automatically checked and I had use of all fonts whether the box was checked or not. Have I just been misled by mandrake, or is my ignorance of what anti-aliasing does impede me from making correct choices? Please forgive the long mail and expect more questions, as I had no idea until now the extent of the hand-holding that was being done to me. -- Chuck Brewer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9uHTg4cYuSvLqsAoRAvcfAKCQUACTo1ROD/aA4Au+zaCvm6GSRQCfYARg sxCwzd7wke5JtsKi10OisAg= =k6Ja -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:Configuring?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the tip! I had the prompt option in, but as usual I had forgotten the /sbin/lilo -v, as usual. I guess I'll have to muck about on the fonts and kde issues, as I have not yet recieved any info on them yet, or maybe it was too off-topic for this list. Again, many thanks! - -- Chuck Brewer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9uXBt4cYuSvLqsAoRAgKyAJ9FnzByHpRwnzS/er//8NgSaS4bbACfVC2P AhDu7+WXkwpaCM2/1vlTBw0= =mDgc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I found the a few site on setting up te true-type windows fonts, but this covers only .ttf. Is it any different to do .fon fonts? Anti-aliasing fonts and icons (through KDE), do I need it? What is the purpose? And if it's a good thing,where to find simple info? The technical advice on many subjects often leaves me bewildered:( Also noted that my system does not power down on halt. I changed my prefs in KDE to use /sbin/poweroff instead of /sbin/halt. After reading the man pages on poweroff, halt and reboot, I am left even more confused. The man pages say that when halt or poweroff is called from other than runlevels 0 or 6, it invokes shutdown instead. I have tried,as root and user to /sbin/halt -p, /sbin/poweroff and just plain poweroff, all ending with the system going through the halt process and stopping with the message : Power Down, without actually killing the power. Looking in my /etc/init.d/ I see the halt and reboot scripts, but I am lacking the equivalent for poweroff. Is this the problem, and if so, how do I remedy this? I know this is probably basic for the list, but i'm trying:( - -- Chuck Brewer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9ujIG4cYuSvLqsAoRAg85AJ9YBWsDPTCnf5xeDhJc6m5qucgI7ACfexgC NC/tUlIY1QykytFFiK0hWOw= =4qMm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Speed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The following may be unappetizing to trolls: - From power on to KDE- Mandrake 8.1=1min 52secs RedHat 7.1= 1min 35secs Debian 3.0= 47secs (with setups as close as possible by distro) The power of what sucks is closely related to the vacuum applied. - -- Chuck Brewer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9u4xY4cYuSvLqsAoRAgsCAJ4tr8VY2JRHEJ14rJL7Lm8KdtBKBACeMuXL Khg1S040J1NVvd9zBpAj9H8= =FRcb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:Speed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's actually just a piece of crap Gateway I got for my wife. It's always booted up at lightning speed. As a matter of fact thats about all its ever done at lightning speed, because after you start playing with the software, it's an anchor. I was happy with the old 486/33, but the wife said she couldn't chat fast enough with it. (Wish she'd ditch windows, I'd like my other 40 gigs back) - -- Chuck Brewer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9u6fl4cYuSvLqsAoRAsUlAJ4wjslzE2BkY0+mMcpQbgg6P2+/JACgiUhE GgmJfhisiKVZV0HDto8BQKc= =kkc+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MXXS Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Assuming it's XMMS. I had this problem for a bit. Apparently the xmms-cdread isn't grabbed as a dependency, which is fine if you're not using it for cds. It's not going to show anything in the /cdrom directory without that package installed though. I was pulling hair over this for a while before I figured it out. I have since moved on to trying to get it to play any sound at all now. XMMS will see the CD, list the directory and play them,but I got 0 sound. And I have the xmms-artsplay package in also. Seems strange to get the system sounds but not audio sounds. I'm using cdparanoia to copy them to the hd before playing, but it sucks to have to wait the 15-20 mins or whatever to get it to the hd before I can listen to my cd:( P.S. Sorry to piggy-back that last problem with one of my own, but I figured it saved some space:) - -- Chuck Brewer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9viVK4cYuSvLqsAoRAqsIAKCAVk9LHkDNajWKvW7knYf1/09iWgCgrrcG YlcdFsuJM6vuYDWW4n+3GZQ= =PrKJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just noticed when cleaning out my home directory that I still have builds of qt-3.0.5 and kde 3.03 which I built using another distro, optimized for my particular machine. My question is this: 1)Is it required to make .debs out of these for total integration with apt/dpkg? And if so, having never done any package building whatsoever, is this something that any user can easily learn? 2)From locating existing files/dirs on this box for qt2 and kde2 I find files for both programs listed in /usr/lib and for kde2, in /etc. I originally built the sources for qt under /opt/qt3, because opt is empty just on about any box I ever install. Instructions for qt say there is no make install needed because everthing is run from the qt dir, you just need to export $QTDIR properly. The same basically holds true for kde in regards to exporting $KDEDIR properly. Now the main question seems to be: is it Debian correct to leave these builds as is, or do I need to rebuild with libdir=/usr/lib etc., etc.? Also if it's absolutely necessary to package them to be noticed, by apt, or dpkg or whatever for system maintenance reasons, can they packaged as I have built them, with the target destination of /opt? - -- Chuck Brewer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9whoC4cYuSvLqsAoRArkyAJ436ddWnEXekWxoAhe4a9KSwZrF3ACfdAGB NmHIqc0IIej9T1y3p00UaJs= =kzXg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PHP4 with Apache on Alpha platform broken....
Hello, I'm wondering if anyone has a way to get the current supposedly stable release of PHP4 (4.1.2-5 from dselect) to work with Apache 1.3.26 on the Alpha platform. I installed from dselect only to have Apache fail to start. Something to do about libmm and not being able to load the module? I am new to this whole Linux thing so any help someone could give to track down this problem would be greatly appreciated. If you take out the PHP support Apache runs fine. Thanks, CS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding a default outgoing sig to exim4
Hi, I'm currently in the middle of replacing my mailserver (running sendmail still) with exim4, and I would like to append a default signature to all outgoing mail (preferable not to internal mail, but this I can live with) after some digging, I came across mailscanner, with if available in the debian archive, although this is primarily a virus scanner, would it be possible to change this so it just appends a signature to the outgoing mails, rather than running a virus scan on them (so the outgoing sig would just replace the obligatory virus scan clean message) If anyone has done this successfully? or know of a dedicated program than can do this using exim4 or even any steps or website that offer information on this, then I would be eternally happy Thanks in advance Mark -- To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism, to steal ideas from many is research. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding a default outgoing sig to exim4
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 16:51, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > No. Read this to get an understanding of the technical and > non-technical issues of such an attempt : > http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ See below, I did mention sig and not disclaimer :) but thanks for the link, it proved a few laughs. > If you want to append a signature, configure your mail client to do > so. In mutt this is done with a line like "set > signature=~/.signature". I don't know what squirrelmail requires for > that. I 'm asking this question, as I will be setting up a local small companies mailserver using exim4 and they wish to append an automatic signature, and not a disclaimer, i.e their company name, main contact and website. I asked the original question regarding my mailserver, as that (like the company) is running sendmail, so using mine as a test bed for testing the signature addition, I can iron small things like this out on my network, also having a sig/disclaimer set by the mailserver, takes some of the hassle for users to add it to each of their mail clients and keeps the client happy, but they can add their own as well personal name and stuff if they really want to make the sig a 4 page essay Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Install Doesn't Boot from HD
Hi, Just built a new box I'll use as a server at home. On that reboot during the installation process of Woody, I had to boot from floppy. I don't think it's a BIOS issue. I had CD, Floppy, HD0 as the boot order, and even tried HD0, HD1, HD2 and it still wouldn't boot from the HD. (I have 1 HD as Primary Master and 1 CDRW as Secondary Master and that's it.) I'm using the Asus A7N8X Mobo. Perhaps I messed up the partitioning. I did /boot as 16MB at the front of the drive, a 2GB swap partition next, and then ~120GB as the root filesystem. I have 1GB RAM, but perhaps a 2GB swap partition is excessive and that old rule of thumb about swap sizes has outlived its usefulness? What should I check? -- Brian ,''`. Try a free operating system at http://www.debian.org : :' : Support EFF! http://www.eff.org `. `' They're defending YOUR rights online! `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DENY KAZAA , IMESH, CHAT PROGRAMS
Once upon a time Mehmet AK was quoted as saying: > i want to deny kazaa , imesh etc. and chat programs our local network . > can u help me If you stop shouting!, youre lucky to even get this rely, is there some stange setting in Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 that converts text the capitals? This is not really a Debian specific question is it? Uninstall them from each workstation and access a stricter security policy, also alter you're fireweall rules to deny these programs in/out of the network. If you are not sure what pc they are on, try nmap to do a port scan of the boxs. MC -- To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism, to steal ideas from many is research. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quick question regarding permissions and tar
Hi, I've created a snapshot of a secure locked down server running woody that was stetup on a secure non net connnected pc, I've got it setup to run discover and a few other apps on boot to automatically detect hardware and so forth, so I can then extract this to any new server and setup a few basic things like fstab,lilo,partitioning and updates etc.. I've installed the harddrive to another pc that again is not net connected, but running woody with Gnome, I've mounted the hardrive and created a compressed image of the new system: tar cvfPpj /home/mark/secure-server-woody.tar.bz2 /home/image/secure-server Basically this will compress using bz2 compression, do not strip slashes and keep the permissions of the files. This is fine, I have a live cd (opps, running gentoo basic, as its only 66mb), which I have copied the image to and use to extract to a new pc. The problem I'm getting is that its not keeping the correct permissions, it looks like its taking the permissions from the host livecd. This I can understand, but when I chroot into the new environment, all the permissions are messed up, where as in /dev/ where is should say i.e. cdrom it only says 18 for the group (yes cdrom is listed in /etc/groups). I can cure this by copying the same version of group from the newly extracted system into the live cd after boot up and then wipe the extracted image and re extract the new image again. Basically is there any way around this problem? apart from creating my own livecd using debian as a base (I know I could try knoppix, but I really want a small base live cd,so there is space for the new image) Thanks Mark -- To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism, to steal ideas from many is research. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faked From-Adress with my domain on them
In linux.debian.user, Stefan Waidele jun. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Raeburn wrote: > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>OK, but I'm not entirely convinced he's sending a host, which is why > >>everybody's local mail server is adding in the host part. > > > > I've seen some hints of "@localhost" in the email I got. I sent email > > to Kevin about two weeks ago asking him to fix it. Since it hasn't > > been fixed yet, and he never answered, I just assumed he didn't care. > > Well, Kevin has fixed it, so he is not indifferent. > > But there is another case of the same misconfiguration on the list. > But since I now know it is not a conscious attempt to use my domain, I > am way more relaxed than before :) > I hope this fixes it. Sorry, I don't know of a test list. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian x Redhat
>> On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 14:20, Bruno Diniz de Paula wrote: > > and it was completely useless. Because the > repositories are so small (again, because the original company does not > support it), that it is useless. Only a hanfull of applications, can > work with apt-rpm. It really depends, I used to be a Pure Redhat user (from 5.1 - 9), but as already mentioned, got sick of their product life cycle, they generally only care about their enterprise customers, there are major, major problems with rpm from versions => 8.0, rpm locks and can do many damaging things. My last straw can on a production server, running up2date -u (their official updater), it upgraded glibc, then locked the database and crashed, this left me with parts of the old glibc-common and parts of the new glibc, it then proceded to restart ssh, thus locking me out, forcing me to login again, same happended, now I was faced with a 200 mile journey to actually go the the machine (ssh only allow so many users to connect, security). I had to then try and recover the remains of the glibc stuff, not pretty. I have enter several bug reports, starting from 8.0, still not fixed (but hey there is a workaround!..). Redhat does have more polised GUI based configuration tools, but if u are running servers then u do not need X anyway, and tends to be more cutting edge, but there are things like, they do not ship/support Apache 1.3.x anymore from => 8.0, only Apache2 (debian has both), their kernels are patched to hell, and *ARE* slow, standard its fairly secure, only generally listening on loopback interfaces for services I used to use apt locally for all our servers, using one to rsync the updates everyday, then apt-get the required updates from our local repository (saving on bandwith), so for this its great, There are a few repositories out there: * http://apt.freshrpms.net/ * http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/ * http://www.linux.cz/apt-rpm/ * http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/apt/ * http://ftp.uninett.no/pub/linux/apt/ * http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/ * http://redhat.usu.edu/ * ftp://mirror.pa.msu.edu/apt/ * http://apt.42h.de/ * http://apt-rpm.codefactory.se/ * http://apt-rpm.xinus.net/ * http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/repository.html * http://utelsystems.dyndns.org/ But Debian has loads more, 3rd party and standard, they tend to keep track and still maintain older versions of software, they *ASK* when preforming post installation scripts (glibc update anyone!). The Standard, i.e Stable version is just that *STABLE*, I've switched around 4 weeks ago, and apart from a few quirks, I'm loving it. Faster, Easier to maintaine, and very, very small base install (RedHat 425MB min, Debian Woody: 125 - 150MB) The one advantage that Redhat does have, is commercial support, large companies like this, so that is why companies like Redhat, SuSE, tend to go towards the corporate users or migrating companies, as they like the comfort blanket of available support for the suits (the techies still use the mailing lists) (but I dare say there is commercial Debian support as well). Anyway Thats my unbiased opinion (hopefully) Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cd burner
> Hi, > I have replace my old cd-reader with a new cd-read/write and now I can't > mount for media cdrom. I think that is a /dev/ problem which I don't > how to fix it. My Debian is SID(super-interface-daimler) and the new > Cd-RW is Aopen(52x24x52). As long as the device is on hte same IDE change, and the same jumper settings as the old driver, then it should still work > Another problem: In xcdroast the burning for audio,data and iso is work, > not in K3b only for audio. The message is ...not driver for cdrdao.. > thank for any help ! Either re run the k3bsetup program or edit the configuration section for k3b and try changing the cdrdao driver to: generic-mmc (AFAIK) Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get Newbie
Hi All I'm a Debian newbie. I understand it's possible to use apt-get once every couple of weeks or so to keep a system up-to-date. When I installed Debian 3.0r1, some of the software I wanted to use specified Gnome2.2, so I've gone beyond stable and put the following 'backports' at the top of my sources.list file: --- deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ deb http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody/ gnome2.2/ --- I did this trustingly as I don't understand the concept of 'backporting'... I would now like to follow just the 'stable' updates and let my non-stable stuff stay as it is until it enters the stable 'stream'. I would like to get all stable, US and non-US, main and contrib. Is it just a case of doing a regular: apt-get update apt-get upgrade with all 'stable' lines in sources.list, or will the 'backports' be damaged (or never upgraded)? What should I put in sources.list ? I've tried putting every possible option in to sources.list according to the DEB URI DISTRIBUTION [COMPONENT1] [COMPONENENT2] [...] rule, but I get lots of file-not-found errors. Has anyone compiled a definitive list of all possible combinations allowed in sources.list ? Should I leave the backport lines in sources.list or remove them? Any help much appreciated. Thanks Alan -- __ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with e-mail forwarding for only US$5.95/yr Powered by Outblaze -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)
Hi, I'm posting this as a last resort, as I'm now at my wits end, after several hrs googling and reading the man pages, I'm still no closer to solving this mystery. My NFS server is running stock woody (with all updates) and exporting several shares, a few for public access and one for the /home directory ,which clients mount (ok, only me and my wife), I have decided to change my workstation to woody (was running redhat, due to it having more cutting edge stuff, but lets not go there), I have woody running perfectly, yet it takes an age to read/write any files from my nfs server, where as redhat is (for nfs clients anyway) blistering fast, I have tried several wsize and rsize options, but its still very slow, I'm currently running 2.4.20 kernel (hoping this would help, but nope) Heres my current mount arguments in /etc/fstab: loki:/nfs-exports/tmp /pub/tmp nfs nfsvers=2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,bg 0 0 And I am running lockd and rpc.statd on the client as well I decided to dual boot with redhat and woody, and do some comparisons, Copying 1.2GB of data (a single tarball) from client to server Redhat: 15 mins Woody: 55 mins As I mount my home directory, its causing all programs to slow down to a crawl, whilst they are reading or writing to the directory. Please do not take this as a threat (and its not meant by this at all), I'm seriously looking at switching back to redhat, not that I want to but from what I have read I have tried most things, as its now got to the point of being unbearable ad causing my to do little or no work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dlink DFE 690 TXD vs. Netgear FA511
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:28, Jonathan Schmitt wrote: > Hallo, > I'm currently thinking about a replacement for my defective 3com Officeconnect > PCMCIA Network Adapter. > I've found two cards available at local stores not using a media converter, > the netgear FA511 and the dlink dfe 690 txd. I'm currently using the FA511 on my old, but semi trusty Compaq Presario laptop, and this pcmcia card has given me no problems at all, and pretty evenly priced as well, it works out of the box, (they do ship Linux drivers AFAIK), but I have a nasty habit of putting the cd's that come with hardware in the bin :( yenta_socket is the name of the kernel-level PCMCIA driver it uses. Hope this helps Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)
Bob Proulx wrote: > What does your /etc/exports on your server say? Does it say 'sync' or > 'async' for export options? At the top of my head I cannor remeber, will check it out, but personally, It feels like a client issue, as RedHat on the client works great. > Just as an aside you might check out bonnie/bonnie++. A filesystem > benchmark performance test. Does a reasonable job of benchmarking > perfmance. > > apt-cache show bonnie++ will check it out >> Redhat: 15 mins >> Woody: 55 mins > > Gag. I always hate trying to debug those types of things. It > furnishes so much ammo for stone throwers all around. But in the end it > is all still the same free software base and once figured out both are > usually the same. But no fun at all when you are in the thick of it. True, thats what getting me :( > Guessing you have sync on when in woody and async on when in redhat. > > Also, check your DMA status. Only applies if you are using IDE > drives. SCSI is always DMA. I always run with DMA on both hdd and cdroms, yet the funny thing is the redhat box, has them enabled, it makes no differance on my woody box, as its still slow writing to the share, but reading is great. Maybe its worth subscribing to the kernel mailing list? Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome2.2 Window Manager
> Hi > I am using ICE Windoe Manager and I am not very happy with it. > What is the default window manager for Gnome2.2 ? KDE ;) Seriously, it depends, AFAIK know on debian its sawfish, but you can change this to metacity (as this is AFAIK the gnome specified default). metacity seems faster, but less options, if you wish to use metacity, then: apt-get install metacity metacity-setup Once logged in to gnome, if you wish to use metacity, open gnome terminal/xterm or whatever and run: Find the Process ID of sawfish (ps -ax | grep sawfish) kill -9 (pidof sawfish) && metacity If you try to kill sawfish and not run metacity straight after, I have had problems, with gnome not knowing how to place the windows, thus unable to start metacity (without a struggle) Once started, close terminal, this will restart metacity, and then logout and save session, thus the next time it will default to metacity. Hope that helps Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp
Next time, if you wish to use beta software or mess around, create a directory called say /opt/kde3 and /opt/kde3/qt3 or even $HOME/kde3 or $HOME/qt3 or whatever.. Give only youre user (i.e not root) complete access, and then install into there, i.e: # ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde3 blah!..blah! (for kde) or # ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde3/qt3 blah!..blah! (for qt3) Add /opt/kde3/lib and /opt/kde3/qt3/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and also add the paths to youre default path, preferable before the default ones, that way it will (should) look into the /opt directories first, then if all goes wrong, just do: # rm -rf /opt/kde3 This will keep youre system nice and clean, as as you are doing this as a mere mortal, rather than root, you will not have write permissions to the main directory structure, thus the normal sytem is nice and safe Hope that helps Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network not working with Debian and Real Time Kernel 3.1...
I'm running Debian w/ kernel 2.4.18 and real-time Linux v. 3.1. The kernel compiles without problems, but on two completely different computers, the network does not function properly. Within the pix firewall at our location, only ssh works into and out of the computers (ping works also, and resolving names works). I can ftp to other machines within our firewall, but I have no access to anything beyond the firewall. As soon as I move the computer out of the firewall (on the dmz) the machines behave normally. The only way I can access the outside world from within the pix firewall is using a proxy. Other (different) machines are configured with the same kernel and real time linux, and they work fine inside the firewall (ie, they can communicate with everyone beyond the firewall). Is this an ethernet card driver since the other mahines work from within the firewall? One machine is running an eepro100 and the other is running a 3c59x. I've tried swapping out cards, but this will not resolve the problem. Am I perhaps configuring the kernel improperly? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: Lightweight Word Processor
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 17:34, Nick Wilson wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm looking for a lightweight but full featured word processor for a > very low spec machine. Give Abiword a go (apt-get install abiword), but do not use the version from sid. Mark -- To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism, to steal ideas from many is research. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP is too secure...
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 14:01, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: > > I cannot log into my IMAP server any more... It keeps saying Invalid > > password. I can only assume it's using password encryption, but I don't > > know how to turn it off. Has it added any new options to the config file? I have this problem on my email servers, they run redhat (no comment either ;)) and as uuw-imapd by defaulot chucks the mails in the users home directory, I hd to add a pacth to make them by default go innto: $HOME/IMap If I upgrade, wusing their up[2date service it completely kills my options, so maybe there is something similar to this with you?? > > It was never turned on before, but since the upgrade I've een unable to > > retrieve my mail through IMAP. It usually asks in the config whether I > > want clear-text passwords enabled or not, but it wasn't an option this > > time. Try adding the option? Mark -- To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism, to steal ideas from many is research. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package? error sharedlibraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin/netscape-installer# ./netscape-installer > ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: > libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot > open shared object file: No such file or directory Install (from woody): libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 2.91.66-4 Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Extremely annoying ext3
> It sure sounds like you don't have DMA enabled on your drive. Debian > (bless its little heart) will not do this for you automatically, which > is not what people from Red Hat expect. This is wrong, being an ex redhat user (well to long) before I slipped into the Debian camp, redhat do NOT use dma on either hard drive or cdrom, this has to be turned on manually as well (Just on redhat very slightly easier than debian): Redhat: /etc/sysconfig/harddisks [ Uncomment dma=1 ] Debian: apt-get install hwtools hdrparm /etc/init.d/hwtools [ Add options after hdparm -q ] Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'DriveReady SeekComplete' errors with new hard drive
> I just recently added a new hard drive to my firewall machine and I'm
> seeing the following errors:
> hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda:
> set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
I doubt this will help, but I'll put my say in anyway :)
I get the same on one of my workstations running a via chipset on a new
hdd, I have tried 5 different hdd's on the same chipset/board and all give
the same errors, I've tried different ide cables, bios updates, kernel
updates, hdparm settings so in the end I ended up replacing only the
motherboard for a sis chipset and perfect no errors.
The hdd has been running for around a year, with not a single problem, no
loss of data, no errors, so I decided to put it on the old mobo, wham!
same errors.
So it could be youre chipset for some reason??
just another view
Mark
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Adding more files to a iso image?
Hi, I've finally managed to get my debian system (Woody/Sarge/Sid) configured and working perfectly with not a single problem. Anyway, I have created a image of /dev/hda1 using partimage and currently storing this on a nfs partition. I'm using a live cd that consists on partimage, so I can boot up and mount the nfs directory with the partimge file in and restore the complete image (just incase I completely manage to mangle my system or I need to install the image on another computer). Basically the image is small enougth to fix on the extra space on the live cd, how would I go about add this image to the cd? I would use dd to image to cdrom to my harddrive, then would I use to loopback interface to mount the iso image as rw, copy the partimage file to the mounted iso and then umount the iso and reburn using cdrecord. i.e: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/livecd-image.iso mount -t iso9660 -o loop,rw /tmp/livecd-image.iso /cdrom mkdir /cdrom/image cp debian-partimage.img /cdrom/image umount /cdrom cdrecord -v --eject dev=0,2,0 speed=8 -data /tmp/livecd-image.iso Would this copy the image to the mounted iso image or would I loose it after I unmounted it? Thanks Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling 2.4.20
> I've configured my kernel to my hardware but during compilation the > following error pos up: > rs in.) > super.c:945: error: parse error before "n" > super.c:945:12: missing terminating " character > make[4]: *** [super.o] Error 1 > make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/fs/reiserfs' > make[3]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/fs/reiserfs' > make[2]: *** [_subdir_reiserfs] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/fs' > make[1]: *** [_dir_fs] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20' > make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 What compiler version are you using? gcc --version I had problems trying to compile the debian kernel-source-2.4.20 using gcc-3.3 (aparently gcc-3.2 works though) on woody/sarge mix In the end I installed gcc-2.95 and then created a symlink from /usr/bin/gcc -> /usr/bin/gcc-2.95 It built and install perfectly, I'm not sure if I enabled reiserfs, but I just adapted an old config of mine for debian. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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upgrade from 1.1 to 1.3/dpkg and dselect
I have had 1.1 for awhile and have just tried to begin an upgrade to 1.3. I found a readme on ftp.debian.org which said: do dpkg --clear-avail, dpkg --install ldso_*.deb, dpkg --install libc5_*.deb, install dpkg_*.deb dpkg-ftp_*.deb, dpkg --purge --force-depends texbin, and then to run dselect to upgrade the rest. I got the files referred to, and the above steps worked until the install of dpkg-ftp. It gave the message dpkg:dependency problems prevent configuration of dpkg-ftp: dpkg-ftp depends on libnet; however Package libnet is not installed. dpkg: error processing dpkg-ftp (--install) dependency problems-leaving unconfigured. Since the instructions said several passes were needed I just went on. But when I ran dselect, chose ftp, but dselect said BEGIN failed, compilation aborted, at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 378 and compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup line 7. I then got libnet and tried to install it, but dpkg left it unconfigured. It said I had the wrong version of perl. I have not yet purged texbin. I'd welcome any help. Thanks. Charles Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apt error in Debian/Sid with Python
Hello I have a Debian/Sid distrib and after an apt-update/apt-upgrade i`ve encounterred this error : Reading changelogs... (Reading database ... 26901 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace python 2.3.2-4 (using .../python_2.3.2-6_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement python ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python_2.3.2-6_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite /usr/share/doc/python2.3/python-policy.html', which is also in package python2.3 dpkg: considering removing python in favour of python2.3 ... dpkg: no, cannot remove python (--auto-deconfigure will help): python-apt depends on python (<< 2.4) python is to be removed. dpkg: regarding .../python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb containing python2.3: python2.3 conflicts with python (<= 2.3.2-5) python (version 2.3.2-4) is installed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb (--unpack): conflicting packages - not installing python2.3 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/python_2.3.2-6_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Someone knows what it means and how it could be solved ? Is this a bug ? TIA Cristian Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apt error in Debian/Sid with Python
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 00:14, Florian Ernst wrote: > Hello 'C Stefan'! > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 02:24:28PM +0200, C Stefan wrote: > > I have a Debian/Sid distrib and after an apt-update/apt-upgrade > >i`ve encounterred this error : > >[...] > > trying to overwrite /usr/share/doc/python2.3/python-policy.html', > >which is also in package python2.3 > >[...] > >Someone knows what it means and how it could be solved ? > >Is this a bug ? > > Yes, #221791, fixed by now in -7. > > Hm, but as you are running Sid I guess you know the BTS, don't you? > > Cheers, > Flo > > > PS: Ah, good to be back! :D Thanx for the answer . But in the time the problem was I couldn`t acces de BTS. On toppic : The people from Debian discovered how badly the server were compromised ? Because I think that my desktop was compromised too after an apt-update apt-upgarde (found a fu`in LKM trojan hiding my ps command). If that`s true then . it is not so good C Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No need for 2.4.23 (re compromise)
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 15:47, Bill Moseley wrote: > I'm using that last one, 2.4.20. same here from the debian sources, but with a few added patches, there is no need to download a new kernel, just get the source you have for the currently running kernel, apply this patch: -- cut - --- 1.31/mm/mmap.c Fri Sep 12 06:44:06 2003 +++ 1.32/mm/mmap.c Thu Oct 2 01:18:19 2003 @@ -1041,6 +1041,9 @@ if (!len) return addr; + if ((addr + len) > TASK_SIZE || (addr + len) < addr) + return -EINVAL; + /* * mlock MCL_FUTURE? */ -- cut - and recompile, this was taken originally from, Debian Planet. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPnP music server in Debian/Linux?
does anyone have any experience setting up a UPnP music server for use with such devices as the Terratech NOXON standalone audio device, ist it possible? I didn't find much over google other than for embedded systems. Thanks, Christof -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge dist-upgrade today, no more keyboard
would a dpkg-reconifigure xserver-xfree86 have "fixed" this?? C On Thursday 06 January 2005 07:43, Mike Chandler wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 06:24 pm, John A Chaves wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 07:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I just now checked and I don't have the file "Xservers.dpkg-old" in > > > that directory. > > > Are you sure that's where it is? I don't have any way to search for it > > > without a keyboard. > > > > I think that you only get the .dpkg-old file if you modified the config > > file. In my case I accidentally allowed the new Xservers file to be > > installed and so restoring the old one was the first thing I tried. > > > > My original Xservers file had lines of the form > > > > :0 local /etc/X11/X :0 -dpi 120 -nolisten tcp vt7 > > > > and the new one (that had the dead keyboard) was > > > > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp > > > > I'll try to experiment later to try to reproduce the problem > > and then file a bug report. > > Thank you SO MUCH for that bit of information. I was able to boot to > recovery mode and use nano to edit the file as you had stated, now I have > my keyboard back. > > :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: something odd
> > Oddly enough, after booting on the new kernel ... > uname -a returned 2.2.20. > > Can anyone think of why this would happen? > One idea of a possibility. if you forgot to change your bootloader (LILO) config for using the new kernel image then it still loads the old kernel. Even if you reinstall LILO after the compile. > Also, I'm trying to get iptables to work. Within > the directory > 2.4.20 I can find ip_tables.o. > How would I get this loaded into the kernel such > that /sbin/iptables > -L doesn't complain about missing modules? compile and install your modules. read old article from debian user list about /etc/modules.conf http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/02/msg04262.html never use any modules myself. __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raid-1-Array degenerating while booting
My /dev/md0-Boot-Raid-1-Partition always degenerates while booting (or maybe while shutdown?). I don't know where to find the error. Maybe someone can help? All other raid-arrays in my system stay clean. syslog says: [...] Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md: md0: raid array is not clean -- starting background reconstruction Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3 Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md0: max total readahead window set to 124k Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md0: 1 data-disks, max readahead per data-disk: 124k Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: raid1: device ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 operational as mirror 1 Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: raid1: md0, not all disks are operational -- trying to recover array Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: raid1: raid set md0 active with 1 out of 2 mirrors Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md: updating md0 RAID superblock on device Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md: ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 [events: 00 01]<6>(write) ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1's sb offset: 8000256 Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md: recovery thread got woken up ... Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md0: no spare disk to reconstruct array! -- continuing in degraded mode Jun 15 23:44:51 server kernel: md: recovery thread finished ... [...] I'm using Kernel 2.4.27 and the following partition-table: The raid-arrays /dev/md0 is made up of /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1; /dev/md1 is made up of /dev/hda5 and /dev/hdb5 aso... /dev/hda, (same partitions for /dev/hdb): Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 996 8000338+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/hda2 997 24321 187358062+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 9971019 184716 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda6 *10202015 8000338+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/hda7 *20163011 8000338+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/hda83012 24321 171172543+ fd Linux raid autodetect cat /proc/mdstat: Personalities : [raid1] read_ahead 1024 sectors md1 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6[0] ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part6[1] 8000256 blocks [2/2] [UU] md2 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7[0] ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part7[1] 8000256 blocks [2/2] [UU] md3 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8[0] ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part8[1] 171172416 blocks [2/2] [UU] md0 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1[1] 8000256 blocks [2/1] [_U] -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
old versions
Where can I find older versions of packages that did not make it into stable? I installed unstable (2.2) on a box a way back before it was frozen, and toyed with it for a while, then left it aside until now. I think I removed most of /usr/share and some other locations (it has only a 100meg harddrive so I was looking to trim it down some). But this has trashed gpm, cpio and a few other non-essential progs. I cannot uninstall them dpkg says: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. But the package has been updated to a new version, and I cannot install it. I have tried the force option and can't get it to remove it. Maybe it is just my syntax: dpkg -r gpm --force-remove-reinstreq other slightly differt wordings get the same result. If I dig through the deb file, and figure out what files it would install and touch these files on the system will dpkg think everything is fine and remove them? Ie does dpkg checksum or verify the package's files in any way? Thanks. Gregg Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
humm....out of date deb's
Sorry for posting this a 2nd time, but damned hotmail treats the debian lists as spam by default, and until I noticed that and turned off all blocking it was trashing all list traffic. If anyone replied could you try once again. I got the signup, confirmation emails, and my original post but nothing else. Another Microsoft plot for sure! Very strange. Thanks. Where can I find older versions of packages that did not make it into stable? I installed unstable (2.2) on a box way back before it was frozen, and toyed with it for a while, then left it aside until now. I think I removed most of /usr/share and some other locations (it has only a 100meg harddrive so I was looking to trim it down some). But this has trashed gpm, cpio and a few other non-essential progs. I cannot uninstall them dpkgsays: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. But the package has been updated to a new version, and I cannot install it. I have tried the force option and can't get it to remove it. Maybe it is just my syntax: dpkg -r gpm --force-remove-reinstreq other slightly different wordings get the same result. If I dig through the deb file, and figure out what files it would install and touch these files on the system will dpkg think everything is fine and remove them? Ie does dpkg checksum or verify the package's files in any way? Thanks. Gregg Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: old versions
I'll try that tonite. I grabbed a later version of the package and was going to try to touch the files it would install, and hope the old version's remove script would accept the existence of those (empty) files, and not think the package was such a bad state. But I didn't realize that status was noted in the file you mentioned. I've wanted to dig around a bit in the dpkg info for a while, but just haven't gotten around to it. I'll check the locations you mentioned. Thanks. From: Dan Brosemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gregg C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: old versions Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:42:10 -0400 On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 04:52:14AM -0400, Gregg C wrote: > Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should > reinstall it before attempting a removal. About 7-8 months ago, I was getting similar problems doing some upgrades with Potato. I haven't seen the problem since. My "solution" isn't for the faint of heart but you may find it useful. What I did was hand-edit the /var/lib/dpkg/status file (now everyone's going to scream at me) to change the status of the package to 'purge ok not-installed', then I hand-ran the prerm script (in /var/lib/dpkg/info/.prerm) then deleted all the files that the package installed: 'cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/.list|xargs rm -f', 'cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/.list|xargs rmdir' and ran the postrm script (I'm sure you can guess where to find it by now). Then I installed the package again... no problems. I never investigated _why_ I was getting these errors, but they have not plagued me since. I make no guarantees about the solution above except that I guarantee that it's a bad solution that worked for me a few times. It may not work for you, and I'm not responsible if you accidentally delete your whole filesystem with it. (putting a -r in the rm statement will do just that). Hope this helps, and hope you don't have to resort to this. -Dan -- "... the most serious problems in the Internet have been caused by unenvisaged mechanisms triggered by low-probability events; mere human malice would never have taken so devious a course!" - RFC 1122 section 1.2.2 << attach3 >> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
VCG Visualization of Compiler Graphs?
I came across a gpl'd program: http://www.cs.uni-sb.de/RW/users/sander/html/gsvcg1.html Quote from the site: The VCG tool reads a textual and readable specification of a graph and visualizes the graph. If not all positions of nodes are fixed, the tool layouts the graph using several heuristics as reducing the number of crossings, minimizing the size of edges, centering of nodes. The specification language of the VCG tool is nearly compatible to GRL, the language of the edge tool, but contains many extensions. The VCG tool allows folding of dynamically or statically specified regions of the graph. It uses colors and runs on X11 and MS Windows 3.1. (An older version runs on Sunview). Has anyone used this program and/or has it ever been packaged for debian? I looked in potato and slink and could not find it. Although the site seems to have not been updated recently, perhaps it would be a good program to package. I'll download and compile it, see if it is useable, etc Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Linux crashes a lot
To be honest - it sounds like flakey hardware. Maybe not extremely faulty... but enough to do weirdness like this. Can you compile a kernel on this box? What are the hardware specs and approximate ages? At 02:52 AM 9/1/00 -0500, you wrote: Yep, that's what I said. Linux crashes a lot. It commonly seems to coincide with Netscape crashing, but it almost always takes the whole system with it. I can't Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or change to another console. Occasionally I can telnet into the box and try to kill X, but it never works. I always end up having to hit the reset button, which doesn't make me happy. Twice, it has crashed while running dselect from a console. Additionally, I had something else weird happen today. I couldn't log into my box from another machine, xdm, or a console, but it was still running IPMasq services, etc. I finally had to reset it, since I couldn't get into it at all. It would never complete the validating process. The kernel logs showed the output like I see sometimes when it crashes and I'm at the console - several lines of addresses and numbers. Any suggestions to prevent this from happening again would also be helpful. Is your CPU overclocked? or overheating? Does windows run okay on the same machine? -- Criggie
Re: samba problems (rather Access programmers)
At 08:57 PM 8/31/00 -0300, you wrote: > the stupid Access programers > coded the path into code statically. So the program search the dbm files > at \\SERVER\\ACCDOC and more he has to "map" the "network drive" under E: > . But the ACCDOC is under a folder SOLTSYS. So the structure is > Soltsys\accdoc . Here comes the problem. The Soltsys at server has to be > seen as P: . Summarize : \\SERVER\SOLTSYS has to be mapped as P: and > \\SERVER\SOLTSYS\ACCDOC has to be mapped as E: . The rules from our > smb.conf are included. Please help me set up the directory structure and > shares that the users can access the dirs with right "mapped drivers"... With... [SOLTSYS] comment = Soltsys path = /home/soltsys public = yes writeable = yes printable = no write list = @users create mask = 0765 [ACCDOC] comment = Soltsys path = /home/soltsys/accdoc public = yes writeable = yes printable = no write list = @users create mask = 0765 you get two shares in the guindoz browser; just map them to the letter you'd like. You forgot one detail... shoot those access "programmers" They're called DBFs for a reason (Data Base Fsckers) :) -- Criggie
Re: memory usage
At 12:51 PM 9/2/00 -0400, you wrote: When I boot up, and launch, gdm, log in, it runs sawfish and I run licq, netscape, some xterms, etc. When I type 'free' I'm told that about 40mb ram is being used, and no swap. Over the course of a day, this number grows to about 75 megs being used for the same stuff. Before starting X, my box takes about 15mb ram, but if I simply log out of X, and do a free in console mode, it's using 40 mb without running X! Top does not report any processes that have run away with a bunch of ram, and x is properly shut down... I want to know where my ram is going! Also, eventually swap space gets used. After about a week of running, I'm using on avg 70mb ram and 60 mb swap all the time. Maybe I'm missing something about these numbers? Maybe I actually have more available free memory than it's telling me? Could someone help me understand this? Okay - memory is used for different things. Some background info on my machine. caffeine:~# uptime 9:56am up 8 days, 15:24, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 caffeine:~# uname -a Linux caffeine 2.4.0-test4 #8 Sun Jul 16 09:15:15 NZST 2000 i586 unknown This machine does Masq, a little squid, samba file serving, and RC5 proxy and client. Heres the output of free on my wee 32Mb home server. caffeine:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 30556 29848708 0384 12216 -/+ buffers/cache: 17248 13308 Swap:67028 12180 54848 Theres 30556 Kb total after the kernel has grabbed a couple of Mb for vital (ie, unpageable) things. Of that, 29848 is used, and 708 Kb is free. There is no memory used by shared libraries (?) and there are 384 files buffered in ram, which use 12216 Kb. Line 2 says how much ram is free and used if the buffers were to be freed up. Of the 29848 used, 12216 is buffers (thats like disk caching) so theres really only 17248 used, and 13308 free. Line three talks about swap space. I have 64 Mb of swap, of which 12180 Kb is used and 54848 is free. This machine needs a little more ram for comfort, but is perfectly adequate. One of my work servers has 96 Mb of ram, and can have up to 50 Mb in buffers. Thats okay, because (heres the point) unused memory is wasted... Linux uses any spare ram for file buffers. Did that answer the question? If not, then run top and press Shift-M to sort by memory usage. The hungriest processes on this box are squid, ntpd, top, tcsh, and so forth. -- Criggie
RE: Please remove me from the subscription list......
At 05:02 PM 9/2/00 -0400, you wrote: Once again the issue comes up. Here are the unsubscribe instructions from a couple Debian mailing lists: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Tell me, which of these sets of instructions is more clear? Which is more helpful to a newbie with limited Unix/Linux experience who's probably never used shell redirection in his/her life? Am I really off in my claim that the first of the two sets of instructions will be most helpful to such a person? Why is it that the devel, security, and probably many other Debian lists have nice, clear instructions about unsubscribing, while the user list has instructions that will only be helpful to somebody that understands that they're looking at a command line that can be copied into a shell window? Cos users who are smart enough to understand the instructions are smart enough to stay on the list... it is one of those paradox things, like in Pirates of Penzance. -- Criggie
486DX Install
I have an old AST 486DX (23Meg RAM/170MegHD) that I have been using as a router for a few months. I installed 2.2 back when it was frozen, or maybe even a month or so before. I had no problems with it, until I compiled a new kernel for it, and for some reason the map file was screwed up, so I decided the quickest thing to do was reinstall. But now I can't get the eepro module to recognize the IntelEtherExpress NIC. Previously it worked fine. I tried some old 2.1 base floppies, and it worked fine, so it can't be the hardware itself. I pass no arguments to the driver, never have. One problem I can see is that just after I boot and read in the RAMdisk it flashes a dozen lines with : /lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.depmodprobe no such directory or file There is nothing in /var/log/messages. And I have rewritten the floppies, and used new ones, and I downloaded images from ftp.debian.org and tried them too (I had used ftp.ca.debian.org on the first try). What does that missing file do? After booting and just starting dbootstrap, should there be anything else in /lib/modules/2.2.17? (on the RAM disk, not in /target/. ) The funny thing is the 3com509 NIC works fine under 2.1 and 2.2. Its just that 2.2 wont see the Intel Nic, but 2.1 sees it fine. I checked the compac and ide-pci boot disks, but I don't think they would be very useful on this box, but maybe I could try them anyway. Thanks Gregg _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: What is nscd?
do a dpkg -s filename and it dpkg will report what package the file came from, assuming it was part of a debian package, that is. nscd is a daemon to cache answers to DNS lookups. From: "Peter Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: What is nscd? Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:55:39 +0900 I'm currently setting up several linux machines. When I leave my machines for awhile - a few hours - the terminal screen fills with the message: nscd: 222: while accepting conection: Cannot allocate memory. My screen is completely filled with this error message. Each machine displays a different number in place of 222. I've figured out that the 222 is a process id. I've discovered that there's a /usr/sbin/nscd. I've tried man nscd and I get the following error: man: warning: /usr/share/man/man8/sigfetch.8.gz: whatis parse for sigfetch(8) fariled No manual entry for nscd I've tried apropos nscd and I get: there's nothing appropriate What is nscd and why is it giving me these messages? Any ideas? Thanks, Peter -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody
Why split /usr amd /usr/local if they're just partitions on the same drive? I could see doing that if they were on seperate disks to gain a little bump in access speed. From: "Jonathan D. Proulx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:07:09 -0400 On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 09:56:02PM +0200, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote: :Well, I have think the following organization: : :/ of 100 mb in a primary partition at the beginning of the disk, so : lilo or grub can boot it. :/usr of 3 gb (no comments... but should it be bigger?) :/usr/local of 1,5 gb (to install quake data, staroffice, etc) :/tmp of 150 mb :/var 250 mb (/var/cache/apt/archives will go in another place, as : explained below) :/home of 1 gb (I'm the only user in the system) :/misc in the rest of the disk. I pretent to put here several : subdirectories, as music (my mp3 collection), photos (some : photos I have), and a link to /var/cache/apt/archives. I also : would like to store here several other files, like tar ones. : :And at last, I forgot it, a swap partition of 128 mb (I have 128 mb of :ram currently). But where I should place it phisically on the disk ? : The partitions seem fairly anorexic to me. Consider that you'll be keeping this disk for a while and software keeps getting bigger. My opinion: / 500M /usr5G /usr/local 3G /var1.5G (keep cahe/apt/archives there too) /tmp500M /home 7G (why mess with /misc too if you're the only user) swap256M - 500M (why skimp, you can always pull back this space if you need it) Leave the rest for when you run out of space in one of the other partitions and need to split off a subdirectory :) my $0.02 -Jon -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Debian vs. Red Hat
If they're really computer illiterate just say, debian is so much better and
whip out a huge pile of random source code (preferable printed on old
dotmatrix fanfold paper) and start pointing at different sections and say,
see here, this improves delta-configuration process-scale, etc, just go nuts
with jargon. They won't be able to dispute it, they won't know what the hell
you're talking about, and neither will you. As long as they never find that
out then everything is cool.
Seriously though, I certainly think debian is better than redhat, but I
don't know of any hard numbers or testing to back that up. You might have to
do some testing to prove that, but that kind of work can be very hard and
time consuming.
Debian is easier to keep updated, which is good for security. I think debian
is easier to admin in general. Just impress on them how horrible linuxconf
is.
The license is a very good point. Its nice to know you can use the software,
etc without worrying that you are "Legal" or whatever that phrase microsoft
uses/used ("get legal" or whatever). Just follow the GPL, and there are no
worries. This argument has let me put several debian systems in what is
otherwise an NT ocean (with a few solaris islands). We make unix-based
telcom gear (VRUs, calling cards, voicemail systems, etc, but our IT
department is fanatically dedicated to having NT on every desktop and server
they can, even when that makes our internal network unstable. Our developers
are playing with linux, but I don't know if they will win that fight. On
really cheap setups we even sell NT VRUs, it is embarassing.
From: "Wayne Sitton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Debian vs. Red Hat
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:54:15 -0500
Here is the situation, I'm a Debian user. The company I work for, so far,
will only allow Red Hat as it's Linux OS on it's servers. I need some good
reasons to justify using Debian. So I'm asking you guys to help me out
with
your opinions, and Documentation, to prove to these computer iliterate
people, that Debian is better.
Wayne
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Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody
From: Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gregg C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:03:28 -0800 On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:34:23PM -0400, Gregg C wrote: > Why split /usr amd /usr/local if they're just partitions on the same drive? > I could see doing that if they were on seperate disks to gain a little bump > in access speed. so if you decide to reinstall the OS clean you can run mkfs on / /usr /var and any /tmps without losing locally compiled software and user home directories (/home) -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ Yeah, a /home is always a good idea, particularly if you don't have quotas. But I would rather just tar /usr/local and restore aftwards. If you are restoring exactly what you had before then either method would be fine, but if the new install includes updates to ext2, glibc, or other libs, etc you might be better off just recompiling to avoid any potential problems. That would depend on how much of a pain recompiling is vs how serious one is about the system in question. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody
From: "S.Salman Ahmed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 00:58:46 -0400 > "OM" == Olaf Meeuwissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> split /usr amd /usr/local if they're just partitions on the same >> drive? > I could see doing that if they were on seperate disks >> to gain a little bump > in access speed. >> >> so if you decide to reinstall the OS clean you can run mkfs on / >> /usr /var and any /tmps without losing locally compiled software >> and user home directories (/home) OM> Another reason would be if you wanted to mount /usr read-only OM> but not /usr/local. OM> Why would you want to mount /usr read-only ? -- Salman Ahmed ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com http://www.pathcom.com/~ssahmed GnuPG Key fingerprint = A6DB 6C85 DE5A 33BB E873 E437 58B2 09CD 977B 900B to help keep unauthorized changes to /usr from being made. Also, you could remotely mount /usr from a server. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
That is fine for some workstations and very non-critical servers, but otherwise I would never allow cron to run apt-get and just pull down things from security.debian.org. I don't mean to impune the reputation of debian or the security patches and their writers, but on any important production system I would never allow software I had not previously tested in some way to be loaded and run. I'm trying get debian more widely used in my company, the systems we sell are a mixture of solaris, SCO, QNX, os/2 (3 soon to phased out) and even a few NT boxes (ugh). I'm not a developer for those systems, so I have little say in them, but as much as I like debian, I would really hate one of our customer's calling card system, voicemail, etc to stop working for 5 minutes while apt-get loads in an update to the SS7 server. Perhaps the weirdness of one of our progs + the update would hose the box horribly unexpected ways. For workstations and some servers I could see setting up a few sources I manage by hand, and then have cron run apt-get on them. Then as updates, etc come in, one could test them, and if it looks ok, dump it into the appropriate sources, one for manager/sales workstations, customer support workstations, one for developer workstations, and maybe 1 or 2 classes of intranet fileservers, webservers etc. Even for my boxes at home, I run it manually. I've been planning on setting up a local source or 2 like above at home for months now, but I never seem to get around to it. From: Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:18:41 -0500 On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: > I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that > even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task. > Jeff > ( A sysadmin) :) > Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat > from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive > very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping > your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:- > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin (with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like # m h dom mo dow 30 3* *1 apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) does red-hat have anything comparable? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Wierd messages during bootup...
Plus you might need to edit /etc/modules. First time I compiled certain drivers into my kernel, which had been modules, that file will then cause the kernel to load modules that no longer exist. It was pretty funny. I thought I had really screwed things up! From: "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User Subject: Re: Wierd messages during bootup... Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:49:17 -0600 On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:51:52PM -0700, Daly Gutierrez wrote: > Hi again, everyone. > > I forgot to mention that after compiling my new kernel, I now get many > modules-related error messages. If I remember correctly, I did the > following: > > make mrproper (cleaned everything right out) > make xconfig > make dep > make clean (don't know if this was really necessary, since I'd done > 'make mrproper') > make bzImage (didn't notice any errors, I don't think) > make modules > make modules_install > copied bzImage to the boot directory (renamed) and ran 'lilo' > rebooted Look into kernel-package. > I saw a whole screen-full of "*** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/" I believe this has to do with not mv'ing your /lib/modules. to /lib/modules..old before make modules (make modules_install?). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software & Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Extreme disappointment. :(
Yeah - it sounds useless, but its prime use is to fsck iso-style images mounted in the file system, before burning them to CDROM At 10:44 AM 9/10/00 -0700, you wrote: Shane Pearson wrote: > I noticed that fsck /cdrom reveals the possibility of fsck.iso9660, so do you know where I can get that version of fsck? It is not installed by default. im not sure what you are asking... you trying to run fsck on a CDROM ?? since it is a read only media, there is no way to repair errors on it. -- Criggie
Harddrive Weirdness
This is somewhat more of a hardware question but it might interest someone here. I was installing (with the pci/ide disks) on a system that has very been running 2.1 for 9 or 10 months (I built it when I loaded 2.1 on it, so its recent hardware western digital ide hd, asus p5a, k6-2 450), went through it, rebooted, and was in dselect picking which packages to install. I was interupted and had to go away for a few hours, when I came back, I didn't quite realize at what step I was at in the install, and so I noticed the 2.2.17pre6 kernel image, and thought, oh I'd like that too, and selected it. So halfway through installing the packages, it replaced the kernel, and still not thinking about what I was doing, moved the modules directory and hit Y to install the new kernel. Then it continues installing the other half of the packages. Almost did that is. It began to get drive write errors, and quite shortly the system locked up. I had to cut the power, and start again. But when I began the install over again, even rewrote the partition table, etc, I kept getting the same write errors from the harddrive. I then formated the disk with and old dos bootdisk, and still got the errors when reinstalling. I then rebooted from the rescue disk, and did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda and wiped the disk totally. made one big partition, fscked it, and did a read check, but stil got the same write errors during an install attempt. Pissed, I went to bed, and got up in the morning and the install everything went fine. I can only assume being powered off for 7 or 8 hours caused whatever was wrong to go away. Is this reasonable? Is there something on the drive, a buffer of somekind, that could have been hosed by the kernel-crash that was able to survive a 30second power off, but went away during the long powerdown? The last thing to ask me about is hardware, so I'm rather puzzeled. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Harddrive Weirdness
From: Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gregg C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Harddrive Weirdness Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:09:17 +0200 On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:14:09PM -0400, Gregg C wrote: > This is somewhat more of a hardware question but it might interest someone > here. > > I was installing (with the pci/ide disks) on a system that has very been > running 2.1 for 9 or 10 months (I built it when I loaded 2.1 on it, so its > recent hardware western digital ide hd, asus p5a, k6-2 450), went through > it, rebooted, and was in dselect picking which packages to install. I was > interupted and had to go away for a few hours, when I came back, I didn't > quite realize at what step I was at in the install, and so I noticed the > 2.2.17pre6 kernel image, and thought, oh I'd like that too, and selected it. > > So halfway through installing the packages, it replaced the kernel, and > still not thinking about what I was doing, moved the modules directory and > hit Y to install the new kernel. Then it continues installing the other half > of the packages. > > Almost did that is. It began to get drive write errors, and quite shortly > the system locked up. > > I had to cut the power, and start again. But when I began the install over > again, even rewrote the partition table, etc, I kept getting the same write > errors from the harddrive. I then formated the disk with and old dos > bootdisk, and still got the errors when reinstalling. I then rebooted from > the rescue disk, and did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda and wiped the disk > totally. made one big partition, fscked it, and did a read check, but stil > got the same write errors during an install attempt. > > Pissed, I went to bed, and got up in the morning and the install everything > went fine. > > I can only assume being powered off for 7 or 8 hours caused whatever was > wrong to go away. Is this reasonable? Is there something on the drive, a > buffer of somekind, that could have been hosed by the kernel-crash that was > able to survive a 30second power off, but went away during the long > powerdown? Maybe your hard drive get too hot?? I don't know, but this can be a reason, so in the 7-8 hours, it got cold another time and worked fine. Try to get your system up several hours and look what happens. Bye! > > The last thing to ask me about is hardware, so I'm rather puzzeled. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net I don't think that was the problem, because I continued to toy with it in the same location/conditions, the next day, after the good install, and I did significantly more cpu/drive intensive stuff than just running through an install, and never had any problems. Plus the box normally sits in a location slightly warmer than where I was messing with it, and I've not had any problems. Gregg _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: ISDN newbie
Is there the potential for a winmodem-style ISDN adapter? I mean, an internal PC device that looks like a modem/ISDN adapter, but uses a special windows driver to do its processing... is it feasable? At 11:17 PM 9/11/00 +0200, you wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:27:08PM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > Well, my doubts are: is it possible to use this RS232 to connect > to Linux serial port and then to use ISDN4Linux? I don't think so. I had an external dynalink ISDN modem for some time but I just used wvdial for it. > I read the ISDN4Linux faq but as far as I could understand, the > faq deals only with the case where one has and isdn adaptor inside his > PC. That is not my case, yet! When I used this dynalink thing I didn't find out how to use some ISDN utils with it. For the computer it is just another external modem. Now I have an internal modem and that works a bit different. (better) Anyway, AFAIK you can't do ISDN things with this external modem. But I am not an expert on this. I only know that the internal modem is a lot easier to use (after some configuration startup problems) -- Criggie
Re: installation
I can't say if the A7V and its ata77 controler is supported, because I don't have one. But maybe the fist thing to ask you is are using the special floppies for ata66 systems? Check in the disks-i386 directory for them. From: George Frederick Viamontes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: installation Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:57:21 -0500 (EST) Hi, I got a new motherboard (Asus A7V) that has the ultra-ata support on the motherboard. I am able to get to the installation screen for debian, but it does not see that I have a hard drive. Is there a boot argument I need to pass so that debian will recognize ultra-ata drives? Or do I need to install it with my hard drive plugged into a regular ide socket and then load some type of module to enable ultra-ata support? Thanks, George Viamontes -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: hostname/netname
Just your hostname goes in hostname (simple enough) Put your domain name in /etc/hosts put a line like: 192.168.1.1 server.dontUthink.com server (or whatever IP you use instead of .1.1 Who is doing your DNS? Do you have a perminate link to the internet? That will determin how to do your resolv.conf file. There are several reserved networks you can use. The most common is to use one of the nets in 192.168.x.x. Which means you can choose any network from 192.168.0.0 up to 192.168.255.0. With each network having 256 hosts (the last octet determins the host), except that 0 and 255 have special uses, so don't pick them. An excellent ip for the local side of a gateway box is 192.168.0.1. but then 192.168.100.1 192.168.0.167 192.168.199.198, etc are all perfectly ok. From: Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: hostname/netname Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:06:11 -0500 i'm trying to figure out where i should put which components of my debian node name and my dns zone name... zone: dontUthink.com cpu: server if i have 'server' alone in /etc/hostname there seem to be places that don't know i'm in the dontUthink.com zone. if i have the whole server.dontUthink.com mentioned in /etc/hostname then how can software figure out i'm just a part of dontUthink.com? or, where are the proper places to put the values that come out as \n and \o in /etc/issue displays before login? # cat /etc/issue \n.\o \l \t # man hostname [snip] Hostname is used to either set or display the current host or domain name of the system. This name is used by many [snip] host OR domain name. great help, there. aaugh! related query: debian is my home intranet router/gateway/firewall. what kind of naming scheme is standard for an internal 192.168.*.* net? and where do the settings for this, go? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Netscape Tar.gz files
Which you need to get from ftp.debian.org or a mirror, as netscape will not be on any of the cd's you may (or may not have. cd's don't come with non-free, which humorously enough means that everyone who wants netscape downloads it from debian.org, burning 30 or so megs of bandwidth, when instead if they just plopped it on the cd it would save tons of bandwidth and keep debian.org from serving-up so much non-free software, which is something some people seem to really dislike). You also will want the 4.75 version as 4.73 has a nifty built-in webserver/huge security hole. From: "I. Tura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Netscape Tar.gz files Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:30:18 +0200 Use the debianized packages of Netscape in non-free section. They are four or five netscape.blah_blah_blah.deb They'll be installated in a minute. Best, Ignasi At 13.54 11/9/00 -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna ha escrit: >Hi: > > I am finding it difficult to lacate the netscape binaries to install > the Navigator or communicator from ftp.netscape.com. I was in > particular interested in 4.73 but there are not binaries at the site. > Can somebody please point me to a useful site where these can be > found. > ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
