That is fine for some workstations and very non-critical servers, but otherwise I would never allow cron to run apt-get and just pull down things from security.debian.org. I don't mean to impune the reputation of debian or the security patches and their writers, but on any important production system I would never allow software I had not previously tested in some way to be loaded and run.

I'm trying get debian more widely used in my company, the systems we sell are a mixture of solaris, SCO, QNX, os/2 (3 soon to phased out) and even a few NT boxes (ugh). I'm not a developer for those systems, so I have little say in them, but as much as I like debian, I would really hate one of our customer's calling card system, voicemail, etc to stop working for 5 minutes while apt-get loads in an update to the SS7 server. Perhaps the weirdness of one of our progs + the update would hose the box horribly unexpected ways.

For workstations and some servers I could see setting up a few sources I manage by hand, and then have cron run apt-get on them. Then as updates, etc come in, one could test them, and if it looks ok, dump it into the appropriate sources, one for manager/sales workstations, customer support workstations, one for developer workstations, and maybe 1 or 2 classes of intranet fileservers, webservers etc.

Even for my boxes at home, I run it manually. I've been planning on setting up a local source or 2 like above at home for months now, but I never seem to get around to it.

From: Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:18:41 -0500

On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote:
> I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that
> even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task.
> Jeff
> ( A sysadmin)

:)

> Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat
> from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive
> very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping
> your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:-
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade

what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin
(with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like

# m h  dom mo  dow
 30 3    * *    1  apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade

and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian)
does red-hat have anything comparable?


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