Re: Old .debs

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 23 July 2009 15:06:24 I Rattan wrote:
> Where can I find older .deb files for openoffice? I
> would like to install 2.4 or so (current installed
> version 3.1.1 has problems with display of .php
> files).

Which version of Debian are you using?  Lenny has OOo 2.4.1.

Lisi


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Re: How do I setup wireless network

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 23 July 2009 07:47:53 Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, thirstyh2o wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:57:07 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> >> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, thirstyh2o wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:56:51 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote:
>  _ More
>  than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™.
>  http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
> >>>
> >>> I wonder why you last 2 post are empty?
> >>
> >> He/she is depending on the suject line.
> >
> > didn't get what you were saying.
>
> It looks like he is depending on the subject line to convey his
> question.

(S)He had already asked his question in considerably more detail earlier in 
the thread and responded to some of the replies.  At this stage in the thread 
it makes no sense to rely on a pretty uninformative subject line.  That is 
why, I should imagine, thirstyh2o asked the question at the top of this list.

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Re: Emails [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 25 July 2009 16:31:51 Michael Ekstrand wrote:
> Yes, typical disclaimers are nonsensical on public lists.  BUT, taking
> the poster to task so aggressively and for so long when it is likely
> entirely outside his or her control is entirely inappropriate.  Talk
> about shooting the messenger.

I have noticed only one person taking the poster to task aggressively.  I 
agree with you that it is entirely inappropriate - but don't blame the entire 
list!

Lisi


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Re: APT configuration file

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 23 July 2009 13:30:08 Rustam wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 06:37 -0500, Kc9EYE wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> > > Just create it with the line you want. No other contents are needed.
> > >
> > > The man page for apt.conf(5) describes the syntax of the file and the
> > > configuration parameters used by apt.
> >
> > Thanks for the quick replies. Yes I will copy the apt.conf from the
> > examples and modify that, but this doesn't answer the question that
> > there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf configuration file and yet apt-config
> > dumps configuration data to the screen that it has read from
> > somewhere. Where is this "default" configuration data being read from?
> > This is an up to date Lenny install upgraded directly from etch. Apt
> > has not been manually configured, so this is the default configuration
> > that apt was installed with. What is the name of the file that
> > apt-config reads when there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf file?

>
> IMO, it reads all config files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
> plus apt.conf if exists

On my Lenny system apt-config  dumps far, far more than is in all the files 
in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ put together, and there is no apt.conf file; yet 
apt-config must be reading from somewhere.  In my case too I have an 
untouched Apt on a fresh install, tho' it actually is a fresh install - from 
the net. 

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Re: APT configuration file

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 26 July 2009 23:22:08 Kevin Ross wrote:
> > On my Lenny system apt-config  dumps far, far more than is in
> > all the files
> > in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ put together, and there is no
> > apt.conf file; yet
> > apt-config must be reading from somewhere.  In my case too I have an
> > untouched Apt on a fresh install, tho' it actually is a fresh
> > install - from
> > the net.
>
> It is showing you all of the default values, since they weren't overridden
> in any config files.
>
> -- Kevin

\o/  Thanks, Kevin.  A succinct, lucid and complete explanation!

This list is great. :-)

Lisi


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Re: Musings on debian-user list

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 28 July 2009 11:59:00 Neal Hogan wrote:
> Why? What's the problem? A
> thick skin is an attribute, not a detrimment.

Maybe.  But it is still not really reasonable to poke fun at someone and then 
if that person is upset, say it is his/her fault for being touchy.  Most 
people are not thick skinned.  Many are thin skinned.  A little human 
kindness goes a long way.  (And, no: I am not a paragon of kindness and 
tolerance.  But I do think that I should apsire to be.)

Lisi


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Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 22 August 2009 12:52:54 Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   so the question now becomes, if i run that command on both
> gcc-4.2-base and gcc-4.3-base, it looks like (not surprisingly) the
> 4.2 package has lots of 4.2-related reverse dependencies, and likewise
> for gcc-4.3-base.  so do i really need the 4.2 stuff?
>
>   if anyone has a fully-updated *lenny* system and they're willing to
> run the same commands, is there anything about the output from the 4.2
> version that would suggest that it needs to be retained, given that
> 4.3 is on the system?
>
>   and on the system i'm upgrading, there are a number of packages that
> are installed with more than one version.  i'd just like to clean that
> system by purging anything that has no value.

l...@tux:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.2
gcc-4.2
Reverse Depends:
  gcc-4.2-doc
  gcc-4.2-doc
  gobjc-4.2
  gfortran-4.2
  gcj-4.2
  gcc-avr
  gcc-4.2-multilib
  gcc-4.2-multilib
  gcc-4.2-locales
  g++-4.2
  cpp-4.2
l...@tux:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.3
gcc-4.3
Reverse Depends:
  gcc-4.3-doc
  gcc-4.3-doc
  protoize
  gobjc-4.3
  gnat-4.3
  gfortran-4.3
  gcj-4.3
  gcc-4.3-multilib
  gcc-4.3-locales
  gcc
  g++-4.3
  g++
  fixincludes
l...@tux:~$   

I've also got gcc-4.1, which has a much longer list of dependencies than 
either of those.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: configuring printer in newly installed Lenny

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 20:45:54 rudu wrote:
> bdebreil a écrit :
> > I feel sorry that I installed Lenny in a somewhat automated install
> > program.
[snip] 
> >
> > What packages should I install and run so that my parallel printer gets
> > proper drivers and config ?
>
> aptitude install cups
> It should be already there ...

It was missing in my most recent Lenny installation.  And I blamed the fact 
that I would not let the automated install program install a desktop!!

As you say, it was easy to install.

> Then connect your web-browser to : http://localhost:631

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Re: Inquiry:Linux installation problem

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:22:10 Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron:
> > Did you google "Uncompressing Linux .. Ok, booting the kernel"?
> >
> > I did, and got some interesting results.
>
> For the lazy ones, could You share the interesting points?

Erm

Open a browser.
Go to Google.
Copy and paste 
Press enter.

That works on my computer.  Does it not work on yours??

In case it doesn't:


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Re: Inquiry:Linux installation problem

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 28 August 2009 13:54:30 Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:51:31 +0100
> Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > <http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Uncompressing+Linux+..
> > +Ok%2C+booting+the+kernel&btn>
>
> Just a head's up: your mailer (Kmail) seems to have broken your link by
> hard-wrapping it (a famous brokenness that I often see with Microsoft's
> mailers).  [Perhaps it's because of the angle brackets].  [Yes, I know
> how to google, and I don't need the link, but discussing MUAs is
> *always* a fun thing to do ...]

One day we shall have a perfect one   Meanwhile we have to compromise. ;-)

But I apologise for my MUA's aberrant behaviour.  It shall go to bed without 
any supper.

And I'll look into whether I could have done anything about it.  Thanks for 
the heads up.

Lisi


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Re: problem flash_player_10 on ubuntu 9.04 amd64

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 31 August 2009 09:08:16 Benoit durand wrote:
> i've problem with flash_player_10 on ubuntu amd64.

Hi!

There could be various reasons why you have not so far had a reply.  One could 
obviously be that it is not very long since you posted.  

But another is that this is a Debian users group and your question is about 
Ubuntu.  You would do better to ask an Ubuntu question on the Ubuntu users 
list:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users

Lisi


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Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

[Lisi Reisz]

My husband's box is currently running PCLinuxOS 2009.  A dying HDD 
necessitates a fresh istallation.

***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and 
suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.***  

He finds the PCLOS very slow to boot up after the Libranet that he had 
installed previously.

This seems like a good opportunity to install something better and faster.

I am thinking of Lenny.  Stability is important, and there is no call for 
anything up-to-date - at least until his processor or motherboard dies. ;-)

It is reasonably important, tho' not a deal breaker, that the visible layer 
should look and feel the same as his present one.  What is under the hood 
will not bother him at all, because he will never raise said hood.

The details of the desktop are unimportant, but it is important that there be 
icons over which I have control.  He is used to being able to do one click on 
an icon to open the few things that he actually uses, i.e. four or so 
applications, a shortcut to a specific document, the lock/shutdown icon and a 
clock.  Currently the document icon is on the desktop and the rest on the 
panel, which is at the bottom of the screen.  It would be nice if these 
details were the same, tho' it is not essential.

XFCE is currently looking like the front runner, but I fear that it may be en 
route to getting bloated.  Opinions, please.  Because of Knoppix, I have had 
a good look at LXDE, but so far it does not appear to be very malleable, and 
support seems a bit thin on the ground.He currently has KDE, which was 
part of a fast boot process in Libranet, but is an obvious candidate to go if 
I am trying to speed things up.

***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and 
suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.***  

TIA
Lisi


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Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 31 August 2009 16:18:16 Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:59:08 +0100
>
> Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process,
> > and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.***
> >
> > TIA
> > Lisi
>
> I can't help with the boot process but, if he is used to Libranet Linux
> (!!! really?  How old is /that/?) then he might want to continue with
> IceWM as window manager.  It's in the repos.

He has fond memories of LIbranet 3.  It was able to use the Sarge 
repositories, so he was able to run his Libranet system until security 
updates for Sarge ended and I then moved him on to PCLOS.  I have never quite 
been forgiven. :-(

He ran it on KDE, because I did, but I have to confess that it did boot a lot 
faster.  Just recently I dragged a client kicking and sreaming off Libranet 
3, and coming back to it after so long it really did seem fast.

But yes, I am also considering IceWM.

So long as it boots fast and I can give him his half a dozen icons, he doesn't 
mind what the desktop is.  It is I who want it to be reasonably easy for me 
to set that configuration up.  And I must be able to access everything else 
on the system via the keyboard.  (Since there will only be the 6 or so icons 
and I may need to run other things.)

Lisi


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Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 31 August 2009 15:59:08 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and
> suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.***

Thanks very much for the advice and suggestions so far.  Much appreciated.

Lisi


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Re: Reporting List Mail As SPAM

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 01 September 2009 20:15:38 Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Neal Hogan wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith
> >
> > Jr. wrote:
> >> I think someone is reporting valid list mail as SPAM.  I got notified
> >> today that one of the mails I sent to the list was identified as SPAM.
> >>  The Return- Path on the message was:  >> user=harvenahump=gmail@lists.debian.org>; the Message-Id was munged;
> >> the SpamCop URL is:
> >>  >>e7z>
> >>
> >> How can I help prevent (or reduce the impact of) mis-reporting list mail
> >> as SPAM?
> >
> > FYI -- The above message was spammed by gmail (I know, I know . . .
> > another reason to hate gmail.) I suspect I get most of your posts. I
> > don't know why this one was marked as spam. Guess: "spam" was in the
> > subject.
>
> It wasn't marked as spam here; neither was the reply.

Nor here - and I use Gmail (via POP3, but still Gmail).

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Re: I would like to eject my cdrom

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:19:35 Wayne Topa wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 September 2009 16:33:00 John Hasler wrote:
> >> Sjoerd writes:
> >>> Yes, but the point of this questin is:
> >>> $ eject -i
> >>> eject: invalid option -- i
> >>
> >> "-i" takes an argument.  man eject
> >
> > 
> > COMMAND-LINE OPTIONS
> >
> >
> > -h
> >  This option causes eject to display a brief description of the command
> > options.
> > -v
> >  This makes eject run in verbose mode; more information is displayed
> > about what the command is doing.
> > -d
> >  If invoked with this option, eject lists the default device name.
> > -a on|1|off|0
>
> Running squeeze with eject version 2.1.5+deb1+cvs20081104-6
>
> man eject
> -i on|1|off|0
>   This option controls locking of the hardware  eject  button.  When
> enabled, the drive will not be ejected when the button is pressed.
> This is useful when you are carrying a laptop in a bag or case and
> don't want it to eject if the button is inadvertently pressed.
>
> What version are you quoting from?

Lenny - see Teemu's Email that crossed with mine.

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Re: I would like to eject my cdrom

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 08 September 2009 16:33:00 John Hasler wrote:
> Sjoerd writes:
> > Yes, but the point of this questin is:
> > $ eject -i
> > eject: invalid option -- i
>
> "-i" takes an argument.  man eject


COMMAND-LINE OPTIONS


-h 
 This option causes eject to display a brief description of the command 
options. 
-v 
 This makes eject run in verbose mode; more information is displayed about 
what the command is doing. 
-d 
 If invoked with this option, eject lists the default device name. 
-a on|1|off|0 
 This option controls the auto-eject mode, supported by some devices. When 
enabled, the drive automatically ejects when the device is closed. 
-c  
 With this option a CD slot can be selected from an ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM changer. 
Linux 2.0 or higher is required to use this feature. The CD-ROM drive can not 
be in use (mounted data CD or playing a music CD) for a change request to 
work. Please also note that the first slot of the changer is referred to as 
0, not 1. 
-t 
 With this option the drive is given a CD-ROM tray close command. Not all 
devices support this command. 
-T 
 With this option the drive is given a CD-ROM tray close command if it's 
opened, and a CD-ROM tray eject command if it's closed. Not all devices 
support this command, because it uses the above CD-ROM tray close command. 
-x  
 With this option the drive is given a CD-ROM select speed command. The speed 
argument is a number indicating the desired speed (e.g. 8 for 8X speed), or 0 
for maximum data rate. Not all devices support this command and you can only 
specify speeds that the drive is capable of. Every time the media is changed 
this option is cleared. This option can be used alone, or with the -t and -c 
options. 
-X  
 With this option the CD-ROM drive will be probed to detect the available 
speeds. The output is a list of speeds which can be used as an argument of 
the -x option. This only works with Linux 2.6.13 or higher, on previous 
versions solely the maximum speed will be reported. Also note that some drive 
may not correctly report the speed and therefore this option does not work 
with them. 
-n 
 With this option the selected device is displayed but no action is performed. 
-r 
 This option specifies that the drive should be ejected using a CDROM eject 
command. 
-s This option specifies that the drive should be ejected using SCSI commands. 
-f 
 This option specifies that the drive should be ejected using a removable 
floppy disk eject command. 
-q 
 This option specifies that the drive should be ejected using a tape drive 
offline command. 
-p 
 This option allow you to use /proc/mounts instead /etc/mtab. It also passes 
the -n option to umount(1). 
-m 
 This option allows eject to work with device drivers which automatically 
mount removable media and therefore must be always mount()ed. The option 
tells eject to not try to unmount the given device, even if it is mounted 
according to /etc/mtab or /proc/mounts. 
-V 
 This option causes eject to display the program version and exit. 
LONG OPTIONS
 All options have corresponding long names, as listed below. The long names 
can be abbreviated as long as they are unique. 

 -h --help 
 -v --verbose 
 -d --default 
 -a --auto 
 -c --changerslot 
 -t --trayclose 
 -T --traytoggle 
 -x --cdspeed 
 -X --listspeed 
 -n --noop 
 -r --cdrom 
 -s --scsi 
 -f --floppy 
 -q --tape 
 -V --version 
 -p --proc 
 -m --no-unmount 
 
EXAMPLES


-i??

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Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 16 February 2009 08:40:51 Tim Day wrote:
> Currently (2.6.18) I have a hda (the IDE drive) and an sda and sdb for
> the 2 SATA drives.  Is there any way to predict where the hda drive will
> move to under 2.6.26 ?  (ie should it appear as sda and the two existing
> sd* drives will move up to sdb & sdc, or will hda move to sdc ?)

This is the relevant info from my desktop:

~$ uname -a
Linux Tux 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

# mount
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[snip]
/dev/sda1 on /home type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw)
#

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Fedora guy asking for Debian guide

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 17 February 2009 21:58:20 H.S. wrote:
> Coming from Fedora, it may be no useful to know that there is no
> runlevel (init x) command in Debian as there is in Fedora. Most common
> use for me of these commands was to restart the gui. In debian, almost
> all such services are controlled scripts in /etc/init.d.

Has it been removed, then?  I used to use init 0, init 1 and init 6 frequently 
until someone told me a few months ago that 

shutdown -(whatever) now

is better for the system.

I'm not convinced, since the first thing that shutdown does is go to the 
relevant init command.  But I use shutdown as a preceaution.

Lisi


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Re: Upgrade procedure: etch -> lenny

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 20 February 2009 00:44:11 Chris Jones wrote:
> > > 2. apt-get update
> > > 2. replace "etch" by "lenny" in /etc/sources.list
> >
> > These steps need to be reversed, obviously.
>
> Thought the "apt-get update" stage ensured system was up-to-date before
> the upgrade plunge, thus that my apt sources should point to the "etch"
> repository.

Herewith a simplistic explanation.  I'm sure that I shall get corrected where 
I have deviated from the strictly technically correct! ;-)

apt-get update doesn't render the system up-to-date.  It updates the list of 
available packages.  So if you want to upgrade to Lenny, you must first 
update your list of available packages to Lenny: therefore you must alter 
your sources.list _before_ you update the list of available packages.  
Otherwise you won't get a proper upgrade because your system will not know 
what is available.

HTH
Lisi


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Skype

[Lisi Reisz]

Has anyone used this software on Lenny?  Etch? Sid?

http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/

If you have, may I have some comments?  Good, bad or indifferent.

TIA
Lisi


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Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 25 February 2009 17:44:06 Dave Patterson wrote:
> use Knoppix for Debian.

Why?  What's wrong with Debian Live?

http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/

Lisi


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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 02 March 2009 06:26:33 Bret Busby wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am using Debian 4.0.
>
> How do I add installed packages to the Applications menu hierarchy?

Which version of which desktop environment?  (Or window maker.)

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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 02 March 2009 10:16:58 Bret Busby wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Monday 02 March 2009 06:26:33 Bret Busby wrote:
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> I am using Debian 4.0.
> >>
> >> How do I add installed packages to the Applications menu hierarchy?
> >
> > Which version of which desktop environment?  (Or window maker.)
> >
> > Lisi
>
> GDM 2.16.4-1 is the GNOME Display Manager.
> GNOME 1:2.14.3.6 is the desktop environment.

Sorry, I therefore can't help. :-(  I know the answer to your question in KDE 
3.5.x.  I hope that someone else can/will help.

Lisi


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Re: PEDIDO DE AJUDA

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 00:42:44 Carlos h. Souza wrote:
> Boa noite!!
>
> Primeiramente sou estudante d informatica mas sempre tive curiosidade de
> aprender linux e em um site de curso a distancia me informaram q o DEBIAN
> seria um otimo passo para inicializar. Por isso gostaria de saber como ou
> aonde obtenho a nova versão do DEBIAN 5.0, POR ISSO SOLICITO A AJUDA D
> VCS(POR ISSO PEGUEI os 3 e-mails).
>
> Desde ja agradeço a atenção,
> Carlos H.
>
>
>
> _
> Cansado de espaço para só 50 fotos? Conheça o Spaces, o site de
> relacionamentos com até 6,000 fotos! http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br

This mailing list is in English.  I'm afraid that most of us do not speak 
Portugese.  There is probably a Portugese mailing list.

Lisi


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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 15:49:02 Daniel Burrows wrote:
> it looks like in Gnome, I can right-click on Applications
> and pick "Edit Menus", and choose whether or not various menu items
> appear.

In KDE, I just run kappfinder.  Then tick (check) the things that I want added 
to the menu, and click apply.  Much quicker often than going thro' a dialogue 
for every individual program.  But of course, YMMV - and almost certainly 
does.  I do love the way that Linux normally lets _you_ choose what you want, 
not the "owner" of the software. :-)

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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 04 March 2009 03:57:18 Bret Busby wrote:
> Perhaps, it is due to the categorizing of the games, within the KDE
> applications menu, and it was not sure which subcategory of Games, was
> applicable?

Possibly - but I have always understood that its function is specifically to 
look for applications that are on the system but are not in the *KDE* menu, 
and that it then makes putting things in the KDE menu trivial.  My copy 
specifically says  The application finder looks for non-KDE 
applications on your system and adds them to the KDE menu system.  Click scan 
to begin... 

I would have been very surprised if you had told me that it _did_ work for 
Gnome.  There must be so many non-KDE applications that are not in the 
non-existent KDE menu that it must almost be blowing a fuse!

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Will this program run under wine? or Crossover Office?

[Lisi Reisz]

The program in question is "Who do you think You Are? Family Tree Maker".  Has 
anyone got this going successfully?  If so, how?  And on what hardware?

I have successfully installed it on Lenny, but it seems not actually to run.

This is for someone else, so "Use a different program" is not an option. 

All tips welcomed.  (Even plug it in, turn it on - or RTFM ;-)  But if the 
latter, could you also say which manual - I am not getting very far along 
that route.)

TIA
Lisi


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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 05 March 2009 15:40:25 Bret Busby wrote:
> I am hesitant about trying to make changes to this system,
> which includes being wary of upgrading to Debian 5.0, until the ripples
> on the list about Debian 5.0, have settled.

There is no need to change at all if you are not happy to do so.  Etch is now 
Old Stable, but will get security updates for a year or more.

Lenny will not now "settle".  "People" may settle.  I.e. solve their problems, 
put up with their problems or stop trying to use Lenny.  That is their 
decision.  Basically Lenny is now static except for security updates until 
Lenny-and-a-half.  But I personally went straight from Etch to Lenny once I 
judged that testing (as Lenny was then) had settled enough for me.  "People" 
differ.  It is no good waiting for stable to become more stable.  It won't.

If you want to use Etch, but the Lenny version of just one program then look 
at back-ports and see if the program you want is there.

The reason that there is currently a little bit of confusion on websites is 
that the shunt Squeeze -> testing, Lenny -> stable, Etch -> old stable and 
Sarge -> somewhere-off-the-cliff only happened less than 3 weeks ago on 14th 
February.  The websites are being updated in roughly order of importance, and 
populating the various mirrors came first.

If you prefer Ubuntu, then use Ubuntu.  Personally I love Debian and quite 
strongly dislike Ubuntu and its syblings.   
But there are those who think that using Debian on a desktop is crackers, and 
those who think that using anything other than Ubuntu et al anywhere is daft.

It is up to you.

But there is no point in waiting for Lenny to become more stable.  It won't.

Lisi


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Re: Why did you chose Debian over CentOS?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 06 March 2009 04:17:09 Alan Hutchinson wrote:
> I am trying to install DEBIAN LENNY beta 2

Why use a beta?  Why not use the just-released newly released stable, Debian 5 
aka Lenny?

Lisi


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erratum, was: Re: Why did you chose Debian over CentOS?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 06 March 2009 08:24:10 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 06 March 2009 04:17:09 Alan Hutchinson wrote:
> > I am trying to install DEBIAN LENNY beta 2
>
> Why use a beta?  Why not use the 

> s/just-released newly released/newly released 

> stable, Debian 5 aka Lenny?

:-(
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Re: Mozilla suite missing from Debian 5

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 07 March 2009 23:57:42 Bret Busby wrote:
> Well, after having been advised on the list, to upgrade to Debian 5,
> from Debian 4

Having no memory of anyone's having advised you to upgrade to Lenny, I have 
just reread the entire lengthy previous thread.  I could not find a single 
person advising you to upgrade.  In fact at least two of us explicitly 
advised you *not* to upgrade, if you were uncomfortable with doing it.

One person did indeed say that the support you would have on this list would 
dwindle and did seem to suggest that it would be better to upgrade, but he 
did not explicitly say so.  And he was correct in his statement that fewer 
and fewer other people would be using Etch.  That is merely a statement of 
fact.  And one could reasonably infer that he himself, were he in your 
situation, would upgrade.  But he certainly didn't actually advise you to do 
it.

All any of us were trying to do was to apprise you of the actual situation, 
since your decisions seemed to be based on false premises.

Perhaps part of your difficulty here is that you do read carefully the advice 
you are given.

Lisi


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Re: Mozilla suite missing from Debian 5

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 08 March 2009 13:39:16 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Perhaps part of your difficulty here is that you do read carefully the
> advice you are given.^^

do NOT read carefully

Ouch!

Lisi



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Re: Advice about ext3, please (An experiment & results)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 11 March 2009 17:15:44 Stefan Monnier wrote:
> So, yes, unplugging your USB key while it's still mounted is to be
> avoided, and even more so while it's being written to.

The OP asked about about a USB external HDD, not a key.  I have not tested the 
theory, but I have always understood that keys are particularly vulnerable.  
To physical damage if pulled out prematurely, not just damage to the 
filesystem.

Lisi


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Re: Advice about ext3, please (An experiment & results)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 11 March 2009 17:43:33 Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I have not tested the
> > theory, but I have always understood that keys are particularly
> > vulnerable. To physical damage if pulled out prematurely, not just damage
> > to the filesystem.
>
> Why so?

As I say, I have not tested this out myself.  But I have been told it quite 
often.  I don't know much about what is inside a USB key, and assumed that it 
was something to do with that.  I have certainly had a USB key die when 
someone else yanked it out prematurely, but that could have been coincidence.

Lisi



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Re: Hello sir

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 14 March 2009 06:16:43 Sudev Barar wrote:
> 2009/3/14 Santhosh R :
> > Hello sir,
> >   I am Santhosh, I having sony vaio model laptop, is able to
> > install Debian 5 (DVD format iso files) in my laptop?
> > Why I am asking meant, already I have tried Redhat 5 Enterprice (DVD) to
> > my laptop, it not accepted. That same Redhat 5 has booted in Desktop
> > system. That's Y asking.
>
> Please use full english and not SMS language. I hope you meant :not
> able to install" instead of "is able to ..."

he clearly means "is it able to install?" i.e. can Debian 5 be installed on 
his laptop, hence the question mark.

Lisi


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 20 March 2009 09:01:17 Sudev Barar wrote:
> 2009/3/20 Jeffrey Cao :
> > Boot into single user mode, and you are the root.
> > Then, you can change root password.
>
> Ah..banging my head why I did not think of this...

Because it doesn't work in Etch or Lenny?  Don't know about other versions of 
Debian.  I have certainly used distros where it did work.

If you try to boot into single user mode it demands the root password.  
Otherwise it won't let you in.

Lisi


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 20 March 2009 13:50:27 Jeffrey Cao wrote:
> On 2009-03-20, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Friday 20 March 2009 09:01:17 Sudev Barar wrote:
> >> 2009/3/20 Jeffrey Cao :
> >> > Boot into single user mode, and you are the root.
> >> > Then, you can change root password.
> >>
> >> Ah..banging my head why I did not think of this...
> >
> > Because it doesn't work in Etch or Lenny?  Don't know about other
> > versions of Debian.  I have certainly used distros where it did work.
> >
> > If you try to boot into single user mode it demands the root password.
> > Otherwise it won't let you in.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> It does not demands the root password. It just request you to give root
> a new password, which is the chance you could change root password without
> knowing the old one.

We must have different installations.  I have used Etch and then Lenny for 
some time and I cannot boot into single user without giving it the correct 
(already existing) root password.

The method suggested by Doug would still not give you write access, which you 
would need in order to change root's password.

When I need to change a root password on Etch or Lenny because I do not know 
the root password, I chroot from a live CD which does allow root access.

Lisi


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 20 March 2009 16:14:03 Juan Carlos Avila Sanchez wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lisi Reisz [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:34 AM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Technical Inquiry
> >
> > On Friday 20 March 2009 09:01:17 Sudev Barar wrote:
> > > 2009/3/20 Jeffrey Cao :
> > > > Boot into single user mode, and you are the root.
> > > > Then, you can change root password.
> > >
> > > Ah..banging my head why I did not think of this...
> >
> > Because it doesn't work in Etch or Lenny?  Don't know about
> > other versions of Debian.  I have certainly used distros
> > where it did work.
>
> Some time ago, when lenny was 'testing', I forgot my laptop's root
> password. This is what I did:
>
> 1. Choose 'single user' in grub menu.
> 2. Select your kernel and press e to edit kernel line before boot.
> 3. Add 'init=/bin/sh rw' (or something like that)
> 4. Press b to boot (or enter, don't remember) and change root pass...
>
> Hope it helps..

I have only tried a straight boot up.  Having found that that doesn't work, I 
use chroot from a Live CD because that has always worked when I needed it.  I 
might try your method next time.  I don't have to retrieve root access very 
often.

Lisi


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Re: Netinstall and ADSL

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 10 March 2009 20:51:25 German wrote:
> Is that possible to netinstall Debian with ADSL? Thanks.

Yes, it is easy if you use a modem/router for ADSL access.  It Just Works.

Lisi


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 20 March 2009 17:11:20 Chris Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:57:29PM EDT, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 20 March 2009 13:50:27 Jeffrey Cao wrote:
> > > On 2009-03-20, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > > > On Friday 20 March 2009 09:01:17 Sudev Barar wrote:
> > > >> 2009/3/20 Jeffrey Cao :
> > > >> > Boot into single user mode, and you are the root.
> > > >> > Then, you can change root password.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ah..banging my head why I did not think of this...
> > > >
> > > > Because it doesn't work in Etch or Lenny?  Don't know about other
> > > > versions of Debian.  I have certainly used distros where it did work.
> > > >
> > > > If you try to boot into single user mode it demands the root
> > > > password. Otherwise it won't let you in.
> > > >
> > > > Lisi
> > >
> > > It does not demands the root password. It just request you to give root
> > > a new password, which is the chance you could change root password
> > > without knowing the old one.
> >
> > We must have different installations.  I have used Etch and then Lenny
> > for some time and I cannot boot into single user without giving it the
> > correct (already existing) root password.
> >
> > The method suggested by Doug would still not give you write access, which
> > you would need in order to change root's password.
>
> mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever

Thanks!  There are obviously many ways to skin a cat. ;-)  As I said, having 
been using chroot from a Live CD successfully, and anyway rarely, I hadn't 
bothered looking any further.

Many other distros of course go straight into a root CLI if you choose single 
user from the grub menu.

Lisi


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 20 March 2009 22:06:24 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Friday 20 March 2009 11:57:29 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >On Friday 20 March 2009 13:50:27 Jeffrey Cao wrote:
> >> It does not demands the root password. It just request you to give root
> >> a new password, which is the chance you could change root password
> >> without knowing the old one.
> >
> >We must have different installations.  I have used Etch and then Lenny for
> >some time and I cannot boot into single user without giving it the correct
> >(already existing) root password.
>
> It depends on your set-up.  When root has a valid password and is not
> disabled, you get a password prompt.  If the root account is disabled or
> has no password, you get a shell prompt.  If the root password is expired,
> you are asked to change it, possibly without being prompted for the old
> one.

Thanks!  I have never so far had to deal with a non-existent or expired 
password, which is, of course, why I don't see the other type of behaviour.  
I do indeed live and learn!

Lisi


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 21 March 2009 10:21:24 Thorny wrote:
> If I remember correctly, Sarge security support ends at the end
> of March, this year.

They announced that it had ended last year.  As I understand it, they took the 
repositories down this year and archived them.

Lisi


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Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 22 March 2009 17:18:44 Ron Johnson wrote:
> > The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off the table,
> > burp/not burp after a meal, etc,
>
> Hmmm.  Manners or No Manners; it's an easy choice.

No - the poster has a valid point.  Both the cases he cites are cases where 
cultures do not agree on what is polite.

I am half English, half Hungarian Jewish.  When I visited my English relatives 
I had to keep my hands on my lap.  Anything else produced strong reprimands.  
When I visited my Hungarian relatives, my hands had to be above the table.  
They didn't mind about _how_ I kept my hands above the table, just so long as 
I did so.

There are, I know, cultures (e.g. Anglo-Saxon ones) that regard burping as 
rude, and others where burping at the end of a meal is obligatory in order to 
show your host that you are well fed.

The solution in both cases - manners and where you post - is surely: when in 
Rome, do as the Romans do.

Lisi


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testing microphone - how?

[Lisi Reisz]

I am trying to test a microphone by some method other than ringing the same 
poor person repeatedly by VOIP.

I have tried to run record applications, but cannot seem to get the 
applications going (so far Audacity and KRec).

I have tried to run tests, but either I get an error message that the device 
is busy or I get the following:

u...@localhost:~$ cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp
cat: /dev/dsp1: No such file or directory
u...@localhost:~$

So - help!  I need to be able to test the mike simply in order to see whether 
I have got it going or not.

TIA
Lisi


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Re: testing microphone - how?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 17:21:06 Thorny wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:26:33 +0000, Lisi Reisz posted:
> > I am trying to test a microphone by some method other than ringing the
> > same poor person repeatedly by VOIP.
> >
> > I have tried to run record applications, but cannot seem to get the
> > applications going (so far Audacity and KRec).
>
> Hi Lisi,

Hi, Thorny,

> This sounds interesting. Why can't you get them going 

I have no idea - I have never used either but would like them to try and 
record something so that I can test the mike.

> and what do you mean 
> by "going"?

I can't persuade them to do anything recognisable to me.  But then I have 
never before tried to use a mike on a computer.  All I want to use it for 
now, is to use Twinkle to make telephone calls.  But I so far only have one 
SipGate number - and there is a limit to how often I feel able to make the 
poor chap on the other end of it carry on a one-sided conversation.

> I suppose you've already checked in your mixer that mic input isn't muted,
> eh?

Yes.  Everything is on maximum in KMix, and I tried to set "capture" and "+20" 
and various other bits in alsamixergui.  Not very successfully because I 
can't make sense of the colours and symbols and alsamixer doesn't go in for 
words much. :-(   I shall persue this line a bit more.  

> What is your soundcard, 

Card: NVidia nForce2, chip: Realtek ALC650F

> any known issues with it with Lenny, if that is 
> what you use?

D'oh!  I haven't checked.  Everything else I have thrown at it has Just 
Worked, including the earphone part of this headset.

I did have to adjust the mixer settings to get it to work, way back in the 
mists of time when I first went from Etch to Lenny, tho' it had worked fine 
in Sarge and Etch.  And I have just finally found the thread about this from 
when it happened, and have not yet worked thro' it all.  I was looking on the 
wrong list - it was on Debian Women, not here.

But I have recently reinstalled Lenny, and deliberately lost all my config 
files (It's a long story.) and audio is working fine still.

> ALSA working fine for other sounds on your system?

See above.  No problems at all with playing sound - and I actually think that 
it may now (after my last lot of fiddling) be transmitting/recording sound.  
I just need to test it somehow!  While sparing my poor friend - I don't want 
him to become an ex-friend. ;-)

I have yet to try Sinan Can İmamoğlu's suggestions, tho' I shall certainly do 
so.

TIA
Lisi



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Re: testing microphone - how?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 25 March 2009 01:26:42 Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:24:37 +0100
> Nigel Henry  wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > Personally I use MhWaveedit for recording. Normally I compile it from
> > source, but it is available on some Debian based installs from their
> > repo's.
>
> It's in Sid.

It's in one of the Lenny repositories.  I have entirely Lenny repositories, 
and I installed yesterday with aptitude.

Lisi


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Re: testing microphone - how?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 25 March 2009 18:21:43 T o n g wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:17:53 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> > . . . Mic Boost. If not set, the microphone will "not work"
> >
> >> under Linux. Anyone knows how to easily set it up?
> >
> > I just do:
> > $> alsamixer
>
> thanks.
>
> Any command line tool so that I can automate it without manual tweaking?
>

From a very helpful person on the KDE list:
--
> I have even resorted to Alsamixer and Alsamixergui, but they are worse 
because
> I have no idea how to move along the settings in the first or operate the
> second, and no amount of Googling helps.

I'm writing this from memory but I thought that with alsamixer you
could move between the various channels using the left and right arrow
keys and move the volume of the selected channel up and down with the
up and down arrow keys.

Once you have made your modifications then you need to exit alsamixer
(esc key) and run alsactl store from the shell.
--

I've done it, and it seems to work.

HTH
Lisi




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Re: thanks

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 25 April 2009 23:09:39 leo wrote:
> thanks for the info but I can't access internet ntp servers from my LAN

So why did you ask for ntp servers?

Lisi


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Re: Can't ping to other ip addesss

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 26 March 2009 16:41:02 Carl Johnson wrote:
> Alex Samad  writes:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:13:18PM +0530, Kousik Maiti wrote:
> > can you show us
> >
> > ip r
> > ifconfig
> > ip a
> > ip li
> > ip rule
>
> Sorry to break into this thread, but what package is the 'ip' command
> in? 

I've got it in Bash.  Are you sure that you have not?  Have you tried it?  

I don't know whether it is in other shells.  I haven't got any other shells 
installed, or I would try it.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Illogical drives?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 26 March 2009 20:57:34 postid wrote:
> Just finished a lenny install. I used manual partitioning in the
> graphical installer to do the following:
>
> #1  primary  19.0 GBntfs
> #2  primary   6.0 GB   B F  ext3  /
> #5  logical   1.0 GB F  swap  swap
> #6  logical  14.0 GB F  ext3  /home
>
> #1 is Win2000 and boots from grub just fine. Lenny works nicely,
> too, however things arren't exactly where I suspected they would
> be, but then I've not had logical partitions before.
>
> On the Gnome desktop, when I click on the computer icon, I get a
> list that includes an icon for "filesystem," which appears to be
> #2 since it's 5.5 GB total capacity with 3.3 GB used. But I have
> no icon for #6 which is /home.
>
> When I make a directory of the filesystem, I see that there's a
> home folder there that properties tells me is located at / and is
> a volume called /home which is 13 GB.
>
> Shouldn't /home be listed as a separate drive? Shouldn't it have
> its own icon? Why is it located in /, it's its own partition,
> isn't it? Or, as a logical partition, is it physically located
> within /?

hda6 is a separate partition, but when it is mounted, it is mounted on 
the /home directory in the / file structure.  /home is then part of the root 
file system, and can be reached by going down through your root file system.  
Though many people have an icon that leads straight to /home (generally 
looking like a little house).  When you created the /mount directory you 
created just that, a directory.  It will remain empty until and unless you 
mount something on it (e.g. mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt).  it will then "contain" 
the files on the second hard drive (or first CDROM or whatever).

It might be worth reading up on the Unix/Linux file structure and also on 
partitioning.

HTH
Lisi

> /etc/fstab lists hda2, hda5 and hda6, so at the console at least
> it's a separate partition.
>
> I see, however, that that when I make a directory of /mnt it's
> empty! If I'm in / or home (hda2 or hda6), shouldn't the other
> one appear in /mnt?


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Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote:
> > Strong and Humble writes:
> > > Just wanted to know if it is possible to specify a time zone that has
> > > no winter time shift whole year?
> >
> > Sure.  Many time zones have no "daylight savings" or "summer time".  Just
> > pick an appropriate one or create your own.
> >
> > > What I want is to stay the same time (without winter shift) whole year,
> > > yet be able synchrinize my system time with a ntp-server.
> >
> > NTP deals exclusively in UTC.  It has nothing to do with "time shift".
> >
> > What problem are you trying to solve?  There may be a better approach.
> > --
> > John Hasler
>
> I'm not OP, but I think I also want what, I believe, he wants, namely:
> A locale that I can select that will give me text displays of the
> time, and text displays of file mtimes that do not mention, or use,
> summer time, ever. Is there such a wrong-thinker/outlier variation of
> locale? A sort of a sub-culture locale, that isn't really an fully
> accurate reflection of the dominant culture in my geographic region?
>
> For me, summer-time has always been something of an annoyance. With
> the spread of computers in the sixties and seventies, I had hoped that
> limitations of technology might kill summer-time. Instead, computer
> technology has become an enabler of a feature of my culture that I do
> not like.
>
> And let's see what OP was really asking for also.

I'm a bit lost on this.  When I install Lenny I am asked when I choose a 
timezone whether I want the system time (as opposed to hwclock, which I keep 
in UTC (or GMT)) to be adjusted for summer time or not.  I say yes.  So that 
is what I get.  Could someone please explain, I genuinely don't 
understand :-(, why it is so difficult to say no?  There presumably is a 
reason.  Is it a bug?  Am I just very lucky?

Lisi



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Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:49:22 Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote:
> > > On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote:
> > > > Strong and Humble writes:
> > > > > Just wanted to know if it is possible to specify a time zone that
> > > > > has no winter time shift whole year?
> > > >
> > > > Sure.  Many time zones have no "daylight savings" or "summer time". 
> > > > Just pick an appropriate one or create your own.
> > > >
> > > > > What I want is to stay the same time (without winter shift) whole
> > > > > year, yet be able synchrinize my system time with a ntp-server.
> > > >
> > > > NTP deals exclusively in UTC.  It has nothing to do with "time
> > > > shift".
> > > >
> > > > What problem are you trying to solve?  There may be a better
> > > > approach. --
> > > > John Hasler
> > >
> > > I'm not OP, but I think I also want what, I believe, he wants, namely:
> > > A locale that I can select that will give me text displays of the
> > > time, and text displays of file mtimes that do not mention, or use,
> > > summer time, ever. Is there such a wrong-thinker/outlier variation of
> > > locale? A sort of a sub-culture locale, that isn't really an fully
> > > accurate reflection of the dominant culture in my geographic region?
> > >
> > > For me, summer-time has always been something of an annoyance. With
> > > the spread of computers in the sixties and seventies, I had hoped that
> > > limitations of technology might kill summer-time. Instead, computer
> > > technology has become an enabler of a feature of my culture that I do
> > > not like.
> > >
> > > And let's see what OP was really asking for also.
> >
> > I'm a bit lost on this.  When I install Lenny I am asked when I choose a
> > timezone whether I want the system time (as opposed to hwclock, which I
> > keep in UTC (or GMT)) to be adjusted for summer time or not.  I say yes. 
> > So that is what I get.  Could someone please explain, I genuinely don't
> > understand :-(, why it is so difficult to say no?  There presumably is a
> > reason.  Is it a bug?  Am I just very lucky?
> >
> > Lisi
>
> A few weeks ago, my Lenny system switched over from displaying time in MST
> (Mountain Standard Time) to MDT (Mountain Daylight Time). It did this, I
> believe, because the switch-over is mandated in the official locale coding
> for this region (Colorado). I would like to now how to take a pass on this
> switch-over part of the local locale. And how to do it ahead of time, so
> that for me, I don't have to find an unwanted task of undoing a unwanted
> change waiting on a Sunday morning. My version of what I think OP was
> asking for is a variant of locale that does not honor local mandates for
> switching to and from summer-time. It is very much a cultural thing.

But my locale is set to the UK, and we have summer time (or daylight saving 
time).  We lost the hour from 1:00 to 2:00 last night.  So are you saying 
that the choice I am given is a non-choice and that I would get the same 
thing even if I answered no?  Or are you saying that some locales are more 
dictatorial than others?

Lisi
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Re: Why no Skype packages?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 29 March 2009 23:47:33 David Fox wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:24 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> > Was just looking at all the 'how to install Skype' pages, and wondering
> > why, as far as I can tell, there are no Debian packages. Is this a
> > licensing issue?

There is a Debian package, and I can vouch that it works in Lenny.  It is not, 
however, in the official repositories and is supplied by Skype.  If, in spite 
of this, you want to use it, just add  the following to your sources.list:

deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free

Then:
aptitude update
aptitude install skype

HTH
Lisi


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Re: [OT] To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 31 March 2009 00:39:46 Mike Bird wrote:
> On Mon March 30 2009 16:12:57 Tom Furie wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:47:38PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > > Now, I want to stop arguing about the descriptions. But just one last
> > > shot.  I believe it is factually incorrect to say that you 'lose an
> > > hour' in switching from standard to summer time. It is conventional
> > > wording, it is manifestly untrue. But if people say it often enough,
> > > it becomes something that is used in syllogisms as if it were a fact.
> >
> > To be slightly pedantic about it, if you go to bed at whatever your
> > usual time is before the clocks change and still have to get up at the
> > same (clock) time in the morning as you did the day before, then you do
> > lose an hour of sleep, that night. Then again, by the same argument,
> > seven months or so later you get that hour back, so it all balances
> > anyway.

To be unpedantic and factual, what officially happens here in the UK is that 
we lose an hour of clock time.  The clock hour between 01:00 and 02:00 does 
not exist that night.  Clocks are deemed to move from 00:00:59 to 02:00.

When we move the other way we gain an hour of clock time.  Clocks move from 
01:59:59 to 01:00:00.

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Sound and mixers

[Lisi Reisz]

Would any kind person with working sound be prepared to tell me her/his 
settings in Alsamixer, KMix or any other mixer (provided that it is in the 
Lenny repos ;-)  ).

Sound was working until I fiddled with the settings to try and get the mic 
going, so the rest of the set-up must be OK.  I have tried altering each of 
the settings while a CD was playing so that any improvement would show 
immediately.  But altering one setting at a time didn't achieve anything, and 
there are just too many permutations possible for it to be entirely realistic 
to go thro' the lot.  Tho' I realise that I may be reduced to that. :-(

TIA
Lisi


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Re: Debian won't boot

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 01 April 2009 15:44:06 Kent West wrote:
> how's a newbie who
> has been in Windows-land all his life and has just heard about this
> Debian thingy supposed to know what to do with this? He's just been told
> to download the Debian LiveCD as a try-it-out demo, but he's clueless.
> I'm not a newbie, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which LiveCD
> image to download.

FWIW, I recommend the one for your favourite desktop (provided it is there) 
and, if you want only one, then the i386.  64 bit processors can use 32 bit.  
The reverse is not true.

Mind you, it is a brave Windows fugitive who goes straight to Debian!  I 
stared with one that hand-held a bit more.

Again, for what it is worth, I keep a little pile of different Live CDs.  I 
find that it is horses for courses.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Sound and mixers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 01 April 2009 16:15:02 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 15:52:15 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > Would any kind person with working sound be prepared to tell me her/his
> > settings in Alsamixer, KMix or any other mixer (provided that it is in
> > the Lenny repos ;-)  ).
>
> What is your audio chipset? You need the settings of someone with the
> same hardware, otherwise there might be small but important differences
> in the names of the channels and their behavior.

NVidia nForce2 (DUPLEX)
card config:  NVidia nForce2with ALC650F at irq 21
Sound driver:  3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)

> > Sound was working until I fiddled with the settings to try and get the
> > mic going, so the rest of the set-up must be OK.  I have tried altering
> > each of the settings while a CD was playing so that any improvement would
> > show immediately.  But altering one setting at a time didn't achieve
> > anything, and there are just too many permutations possible for it to be
> > entirely realistic to go thro' the lot.  Tho' I realise that I may be
> > reduced to that. :-(
>
> You can post the output of "amixer" and we can take a look (or put it on
> http://debian.pastebin.com and post the link).

http://debian.pastebin.com/m73ea7094

Thanks! I would be delighted to get this going again.

Lisi


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Re: Sound and mixers - SOLVED and many thanks

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 01 April 2009 17:37:46 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 17:06:47 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 April 2009 16:15:02 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 15:52:15 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > Would any kind person with working sound be prepared to tell me
> > > > her/his settings in Alsamixer, KMix or any other mixer (provided that
> > > > it is in the Lenny repos ;-)  ).
>
> [...]
>
> > > You can post the output of "amixer" and we can take a look (or put it
> > > on http://debian.pastebin.com and post the link).
> >
> > http://debian.pastebin.com/m73ea7094
>
> All your channels are muted for some reason ("[off]"). I would start by
> trying to unmute these three:
>
> amixer set Master unmute
> amixer set "Master Mono" unmute
> amixer set PCM unmute
>
> If that works without error then you should have recovered normal
> playback (e.g. from running "speaker-test -t sine").
>
> You then might have to unmute additional channels, for example "CD" or
> "Surround", to completely restore your previous state.

Oh, Father Christmas, my blessings on you fall...

That is _much_ better than an india rubber ball, red or otherwise!

They were all turned on in the mixer applications I knew about...

You may have solved the same problem on another computer too. \o/

Thank you very, very much. :-))

Lisi


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Re: Sid update would like to remove most xorg packages and drivers

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 10 April 2009 08:09:12 Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2009-04-10 01:00 +0200, Nick Lidakis wrote:
> > May I ask how you managed that superscript 1 after the word problem?
>
> With a German keyboard layout, it's on AltGr-1 (only under X).  Don't
> know about other keyboard layouts.

Thanks, Sven.  A most useful piece of information. :-)  It works here on a UK 
keyboard layout.

Lisi


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Re: boot failure diagnostics

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 10 April 2009 22:13:56 Vwaju wrote:
> Out of the blue, Debian failed to boot.
>
> Using debian-live-500-i386-rescue.iso I mounted the root partition /
> dev/hda1.
>
> I would like to examine the partition to find the reason for the
> failure.
>
> I'm guessing I should use fsck.  Is this right?
>
> However, I don't know what options to give it or *what I'm looking
> for*.
>
> The man page is kind of sketchy, and I don't feel encouraged by the
> following:
>
> %fsck /dev/hda1
> fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
> e2fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
> /dev/hda1 is mounted.
>
> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted file system may cause
> SEVERE file system damage.
>
> Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
>
> As always, I'm grateful for any guidance you can give.

1) unmount /dev/hda1
2) rerun fsck

That will check for damage to the filesystem.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 11 April 2009 13:26:30 Aleksa Šušulić wrote:
> The laptop is less than a year old and still in warranty. It has never been
> used in dusty or dirty places. And this overheating only happens with
> Debian (installing OpenSuSE or Mandriva or Ubuntu or Fedora works a
> breeze). The only other instance it does happen is when my current OpenSuSE
> system freezes (stops responding), ramping up the CPU to 100% usage: if I
> don't switch to a virtual terminal and reboot within, say, 10 minutes, the
> laptop will shut itself off from overheating. Hence my assumption that the
> machine simply is not DESIGNED to work at full throttle (100% CPU usage)
> for any length of time. But I may be wrong, of course.
>
> As a sidenote: I've found a thread on internet a while ago stating that you
> may risk overheating and even frying a laptop if you try installing
> Windows98 as a virtual machine, since Windows98 does not support the CPU
> "idle" instruction. I assume something vaguely similar may be going on
> here. Modern laptops with fairly powerful CPUs apparently rely on certain
> subsystems of the OS to effectively prevent overheating. If some of those
> subsystems don't work as expected, overheating will occur. I find it hard
> to believe there aren't more laptop users with this sort of problems...

I got my granddaughter an Antec cooling pad (as distinct from a gel one) to 
cope with am overheating problem in her laptop.  It seems to work, especially 
when the fan is running.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Ton of Lenny updates

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 12 April 2009 15:17:40 Russell Gadd wrote:
>  There are 59 updates waiting for me to install. I never had this many when
> I ran Etch for a couple of years, is something odd happening?

As a result of your email I have just updated (last night there were no 
updates!).  There were 53 updates.  Quite a high percentage seemed to be 
OpenOffice.org related.  There was also a new kernel.

Changes in OpenOffice.org do seem to mean a lot of updates.  I don't know 
whether there is anything else.

Lisi


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Installing Sid

[Lisi Reisz]

I am planning to install Sid on a test machine.  I may set up a dual or triple 
boot with other distros I want to look at, so being able to control the 
partitions is important.

Googling, and searching the Debian site, seem to suggest that the best way of 
going about this would be to download a daily build of the installer and 
install from it; then immediately after installation, edit the sources.list 
to replace testing with unstable, aptitude update, (aptitude upgrade?), 
aptitude dist-upgrade.

All comments and advice welcomed!

TIA
Lisi


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Re: Installing Sid

[Lisi Reisz]

Thanks for the reply, Thorny. 

On Monday 20 April 2009 16:20:13 Thorny wrote:
> Are you familiar enough with troubleshooting problems and do you have a
> good enough understanding of how packages migrate down to deal with issues
> in the unstable branch? Are you currently running "stable" or "testing"?

I doubt it - those are two of the many things I want to learn!

Since February 14th I have been running stable, for the year to 18 months 
before that I was running testing. ;-)  

My method of dealing with most of the problems that arose was to sit and wait 
for them to get sorted.  They usually did.

Lisi


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Re: Installing Sid

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 20 April 2009 16:11:32 Sven Joachim wrote:
> I would advise to have both sid and testing in sources.list, otherwise
> large parts of the system may be uninstallable due to the many ongoing
> transitions.  Things seem to have settled down somewhat in the last few
> days, but I still have some 50 "obsolete" packages on my system...

Thanks, Szen.  That is helpful advice.

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Re: Installing Sid

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 20 April 2009 19:21:30 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,20.Apr.09, 15:59:04, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I am planning to install Sid on a test machine.  I may set up a dual or
> > triple boot with other distros I want to look at, so being able to
> > control the partitions is important.
> >
> > Googling, and searching the Debian site, seem to suggest that the best
> > way of going about this would be to download a daily build of the
> > installer and install from it; then immediately after installation, edit
> > the sources.list to replace testing with unstable, aptitude update,
> > (aptitude upgrade?), aptitude dist-upgrade.
>
> You can install sid directly if you use the business-card image and
> select 'expert' install. You will be prompted for the distribution to
> install. Of course, you need some decent connection to complete the
> install, because the business-card image is to small to hold any
> packages.
>
> Just be careful, when selecting the kernel choose 2.6.29-1-
> directly and not some of the dummy packages pulling the "latest" kernel
> as they still point to 2.6.26 (which is not available in sid anymore).
> It's not a fatal error (you can go back), but it will save you some
> time.
>
> Regards,
> Andrei

Thanks, Andrei.  That is great.  I shall try it - after all, I have nothing to 
lose but some time if I mess up.  I might even try several methods out, to 
see which I prefer.

Lisi


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Re: mysterious pdf file won't be printed, all others will!

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 18:16:10 Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rodolfo Medina  writes:
> >>> In my sister's home directory there is a pdf file that won't respond to
> >>> the `lp' command.  All others pdf files in the same directory behave
> >>> all right, and the permissions are the same.  The only difference is
> >>> the creation date, which is today wheras the other files are older.
> >>>
> >>> The thing looks mysterious to me.
> >>>
> >>> Can anybody suggest any explanation/remedy?
>
> "Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:
> >> 1. Are you sure that it is a .pdf file?  run file on it.
> >
> > Yes, `file' says it is, and besides it can be viewed by xpdf.
> >
> >> 2. Did she put that file there?
> >
> > Yes, she did.
> >
> >> 4. If the file opens with a pdf viewer, what happens if you try to
> >>print from the viewer?
> >
> > It won't be printed either!
>
> Norbert Zeh  writes:
> > What paper format does the file use?  I've had printers refuse to print
> > files that used odd page sizes (such as Springer online files).  If the
> > paper size is odd, there should be a way to scale it to letter size,
> > even though I don't remember how.
>
> With the same printer, MS Windows Adobe Reader prints the file normally.
>
> Rodolfo

In Acroread in Linux, when "print" is chosen, before clicking OK, is page 
scaling set to "fit to printable area",  and "choose paper source by pdf page 
size" unticked (unchecked)?

If not, it might be worth trying to print with those two set like that.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 13:58:13 machiner wrote:
> I seek recommendations for improving the site as well as new authors,
> whether one article or many.  Please consider it.  The site does very well
> in the search engines and it could use some new blood.  I would be
> thrilled, as would the site's readers, if one, or a bunch of you could
> submit something.  All I ask is that your writings are original and
> helpful.  Any topic related to Debian is fine.

If you are seeking help, it might be worth supplying a URL.  The truth of your 
assertion that the site does well in teh search engines was certainly 
substantaiated, but I hnearly didn't bother.

You have clearly put lot of effort in, and the result is quite impressive, but 
if and when I finally reach the stage of feeling that I have something of 
this nature to contribute, I like Andrei might prefer to post on the Debian 
official wiki.

And I'm afraid that I do agree with some other respondees that I dislike all 
animation.  My cursor flashing I am at least accustomed to, but my reaction 
to other flashing things is to try and turn them off, and I tend to go away 
if I can't, and my reaction to requests that I should register, is in general 
to run a mile.

Lisi


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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 22 April 2009 04:01:57 H.S. wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > If you are seeking help, it might be worth supplying a URL.  The truth of
> > your
>
> Isn't that in the subject line? Or am I missing something here?
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding
> newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just
> filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without
> ever having been read.

No - I am. :-(  Mea maxima culpa. :-(


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Re: Things I'm missing/misconfiguring in KDE 4.2

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 25 April 2009 11:16:36 M. Henne wrote:
> After playing with KDE 4.2 for a while, I was able to regain
> some functionality of KDE 3.5, but I'm still missing some
> things that I either haven't found yet or they did not exist.
>
> If they exist, can someone tell me how to get that function?
>
> 1. (program starter)
> In KDE 3.5, there was a mini-application for the kicker
> that gave me an input line to enter a command and start
> a program directly. I could not find that in KDE 4.

I use Alt+F2 in KDE 3.5.x.  This also works in KDE 4.2.2.

HTH
Lisi


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A working mic? Help still needed

[Lisi Reisz]

I am still struggling with getting a microphone going, and am getting a bit 
desperate.  Part of the solution may be to try a different mic.  This one¹ is 
fairly inexpensive and gets mostly rave reviews, including one that says it 
was fine with Linux and one that says it is good with Audacity.

Does anyone know anything either pro or con?  I could do with its working on 
either Sid or PCLinuxOS MiniMe 2008.  

But the Sid machine has 40 GB of unused/unallocated/free space on its hard 
drive - and I would happily install something else if it would solve this 
problem.  Squeeze perhaps?  Or a Red Hat clone? Or other suggestions? 

TIA
Lisi

1) 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-980186-0914-USB-Desktop-Microphone/dp/BATCOR/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1240697282&sr=8-3


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Re: debian and ubuntu - answer from user not pretending to be guru

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 04 May 2009 19:10:44 Harry Rickards wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Harry Rickards wrote:
> >> But if they can run aptitude in the first place, surely they could
> >> either su to root or use sudo to read or delete the files. Just my
> >> opinion.
> >
> > Aptitude doesn't need root to run.  I tell my users to check aptitude if
> > they want to find out if I'm willing to install it (largely because I'm
> > lazy and running a hobby system).  You only need root to commit changes.
>
> Sorry, yeah I was thinking of aptitude as in 'aptitude install bash',
> not aptitude as the gui-based tool.

This applies just as much to the CLI.  Aptitude will run for any user, but 
only root can commit changes.  I frequently run aptitude at at the CLI as an 
ordinary user to use e.g. search, and then change to root if I decide to 
install.

Lisi



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Re: Wine and itunes

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 14:14:28 Neal Hogan wrote:
> There are a handful of packages that can deal with an ipod (transfer
> to and from). I've had success with Amarok. I understand that others
> have used gtkpod and Banshee.

My granddaughter uses Songbird and certainly seems happy with it.

Lisi


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5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[Lisi Reisz]

I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some time 
looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just downloaded.  
It surely must be there - but where is there?

Help anyone?

TIA
Lisi


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Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS - thank you

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 14 May 2009 16:16:42 Chris Burkhardt wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some
> > time looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just
> > downloaded. It surely must be there - but where is there?
>
> On the FTP server in the same directory as the image you downloaded is a
> file named MD5SUMS (and there's also SHA1SUMS). For example, this file has
> the sums for all of the the i386 CD images:
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

Thanks, Chris.  As I said, I must be going blind, mad or both.  I downloaded 
by torrent, but I searched, I thought, all the servers for this, and also 
searched using the Debian site search utility and searched via Google.

So - as I said, thank you for rescuing me.  :-)

Lisi


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Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 14 May 2009 16:37:19 green wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote at 2009-05-14 09:33 -0500:
> > I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some
> > time looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just
> > downloaded. It surely must be there - but where is there?
>
> This?
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

Thanks.  Appreciated. :-)

Lisi


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Re: Can you recommend any screen capture utility for etch

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 20 May 2009 11:08:52 Long Wind wrote:
> I have try gimp for sarge
> It seems to have problem with capturing window
> I have tried scrot for etch
> It does not capture title bar when capturing window
> Thanks!

Ksnapshot


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Re: Can you recommend any screen capture utility for etch - an apology for hitting the reply key too fast :-9

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 21 May 2009 22:44:50 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 May 2009 11:08:52 Long Wind wrote:
> > I have try gimp for sarge
> > It seems to have problem with capturing window
> > I have tried scrot for etch
> > It does not capture title bar when capturing window
> > Thanks!
>
> Ksnapshot

Sorry - too late, and the other replies were better. :-(

Lisi



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Re: [OT] Gmail posters! turn off html!

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 02 June 2009 22:32:15 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Most of the time I ignore any message to a mailing list that shows
> unrendered HTML.

Most of the time I ignore any message that shows unrendered HTML.  It's just 
too much effort to read and none of my friends does it to me.

Lisi


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upgrade Sarge -> Etch -> Lenny

[Lisi Reisz]

Is Etch still available in the standard repositories?  I.e. can I just change 
Sarge to etch, then etch to lenny in etc. in sources.list?

TIA

Lisi


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Re: Does anyone else consider this a bug?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 09 June 2009 22:28:52 Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> On the other hand, computers used by regular users are configured using
> DHCP. Regular users would only be confused if they were given the option
> to configure IP address manually.

Surely one could expect Debian users, or rather, users installing Debian for 
themselves, to know whether they want DHCP or static IP?  Every other distro 
that I have installed asks, including ones that are avowedly aimed 
at "regular users".  

Lisi


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USB problems on fresh install of Lenny

[Lisi Reisz]

I installed Lenny on someone's box a couple of days ago, with KDE 3.5.10.  I 
am getting the following error when I try to use the USB card:


Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call",
sender=":1.6" (uid=1000 pid=2582 comm="kded [kdeinit] --new-startup ")
interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member="Mount" error
name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal"
(uid=0 pid=2381 comm="/usr/sbin/hald "))


The processor is a Pentium III Coppermine, speed quoted by KDE Infocenter as 
697.684 MHz , so probably 700 MHz.  Motherboard is an Intel D815EEA

The USB is a 4 port card, probably PCI.

Googling has turned up the following bug, which appears to be very much the 
same:

http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/00e7334029f51b01?fwc=1

Have I indeed hit the same bug?

What do I do about it??  Whether or not it is the same bug?

Thanks for any help,
Lisi


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Re: USB ports not working!

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 19 June 2009 14:29:07 Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 2009/6/19 Pedro Claro :
> > I've installed the latest stable version of Debian, and for my surprise
> > my USB ports stop working...
> > any thoughts??
>
> something useful is needed...
> plug you usb device an give us the shell output for:
>
> lsusb
> lsmod
>
> where are you looking for usb ports? gnome or kde?
>
> > Pedro Clunix
> > Portugal
>
> -r

I had a similar problem, which I put down to the age of the USB card in 
question.  It was working reliably under Sarge, but was unreliable after I 
installed Lenny.  lsusb showed it as USB 1.1.  

I installed a cheap generic USB 2 card which worked fine.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: OT Can't Register Joomla forum

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 20 June 2009 15:44:35 Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 18:06 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > Help please.  I'm trying to install Joomla and having problems. Tried to
> > register to be able to post, get help but the registration page thinks
> > my email address li...@tomgeorge.info is not a valid email address.
>
> I guess Joomla either don't like the ".info" domain (but google returns
> no hits for that) or  Joomla has built-in protection to forbid email
> containing the word "list" (to avoid spamming mailing lists).
>
> > If anyone is an active user of their forums please communicate my
> > dilemma.
>
> Use Joomla's IRC or Jabbre channel (if they have some).

Or create a Gmail account especially for this purpose?

Lisi


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strange problem - computer works in one place, but not in another

[Lisi Reisz]

I installed Lenny on a computer without problems.  I did a net install
and checked the various applications that were likely to be heavily
used. All were working.  Desktop: KDE.  Hardware: Pentium III
Coppermine, 256MB RAM.

I then moved the computer to its owner's house,having done the
installation at my house.  And everything internet-related has gone
mad!!

Now:
Konqueror connects immediately to any site I have tried.
Iceweasel connects intermittently: i.e. sometimes connects,sometimes doesn't.
Icedove (which was fine at my house) won't connect at all.
Ping works for some sites, not for others.
aptitude can't connect at all.  So I cannot update/upgrade or install
new applications.  (I could at home.)

On the same connection, and using the same cables, my laptop connects
well, except that ping is still erratic.

I have: reset the router to factory defaults; tried another router.
There is a good fast connection, and I updated Jaunty on my laptop
without a problem.

And the DVD RW drive is playing up in spite of being brand new so I
cannot just try reinstalling. :-(

Help!

Lisi


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Re: strange problem - computer works in one place, but not in another- SOLVED \o/ - THANK YOU!

[Lisi Reisz]

Resending because original went to author only.  Sorry everyone - and gn.

On Monday 22 June 2009 11:39:44 gn643202 wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I then moved the computer to its owner's house,having done the
> > installation at my house.  And everything internet-related has gone
> > mad!!
> >
> > Now:
> > Konqueror connects immediately to any site I have tried.
> > Iceweasel connects intermittently: i.e. sometimes connects,sometimes
> > doesn't.
>
> Just a guess.   I had a problem like that and it was DNS.   Took me
> a while to get it right without having to reset the DNS after ever boot.
>Unfortunately I tried a lot of things and do not know which change
> fixed the problem.

That was it.  My router can handle static DNS, his can't.  I had already 
edited etc/network/interfaces and changed it from DHCP to static, and entered 
the DNS IPs.  But that appeared not to have helped.  After your email came, I 
thought a bit and realised that I had not checked etc/resolv.conf.

Bingo!  I looked and it was wrong.  A careful read of the relevant part of the 
man entry later, I edited resolv.conf using kwrite, saved and It Worked!  
Browsing is fast and accurate.  In all software.  It  has even survived two 
reboots.

So thank you very, very much for your help.

Lisi



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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:35:08 明覺 wrote:
> I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my  questions about
> programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a
> debian user.

a) Why *shouldn't* we ignore your Debian questions if we happen to feel like 
it?

b) Debian user?  But you have already said that you dislike the way Debian is 
written and are switching over to MikeOS.  Be our guest.  

I imagine that many, if not most, of us are very happy Debian users who are 
grateful for advice from those more experienced than ourselves, and very, 
very grateful to the developers.

Lisi


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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:18:34 明覺 wrote:
> I believe readers of this thread are all advanced programmers,

I'm not.  

> they 
> won't be confusing.

You mean confused not confusing.  An important difference. 

Lisi


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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 16:12:26 Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:18:34 明覺 wrote:
> >> I believe readers of this thread are all advanced programmers,
> >
> > I'm not.
> >
> >> they
> >> won't be confusing.
> >
> > You mean confused not confusing.  An important difference.
>
> Really...
> Being only a wannabe hacker, and not yet a real hacker, I have to say
> that real programmers are often confusing...

:-) But it is still not what he meant!

> But I'll keep learning.
>
> /tony
> --
> http://www.baldwinsoftware.com
> free/open source software
> tcl yer os with a feather...



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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 24 June 2009 03:02:15 明覺 wrote:
> we must have an official language

There speaks a well indoctrinated totalitarian!

Lisi


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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 24 June 2009 12:37:25 明覺 wrote:
> What a pity
> you are!

What does that mean??


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Re: any substitute for x window system?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 24 June 2009 13:02:19 明覺 wrote:
> I have ended the discussion,

So this email was not from you???


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Re: Query on Debian 5.0.1 -- Installation of DVD2,3,4,5 & updates dvd

[Lisi Reisz]

> Dimple Patel wrote:
> > Thank you for the clarification.  But if I use 'apt-cdrom add', i
> > think it will ask me to load the DVD everytime.

Johannes Wiedersichwrote
> Why do you think that?

On Thursday 25 June 2009 11:08:30 Dimple Patel wrote:
> The reason why I think that way is, that is wot had happened when I tried
> 'apt-cdrom add' on my friend's laptop.

I also find that.  If I don't want that to happen, I comment the (in my case) 
CD out in the sources.list.

Lisi 


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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 25 June 2009 11:24:23 Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 2009/6/25 Tony Baldwin :
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:27:59AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> >> Hi you all,
> >>
> >> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
> >> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
> >> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
> >>
> >> Does anyone own this device and running debian?
> >> Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.
> >
> > That's my router.
> > I didn't do a thing to it.
> > I have two debian desktops connected via ethernet and 3 ubuntu
> > laptops connected via wifi all sharing the internet connection.
> > I haven't actually networked the machines, beyond sharing the internet
> > connection, though.
> > I just use sshs and sshfs to move files around, etc.
> > My networking fu is about as sharp as a mud puddle after a thunderstorm.
> >
> > /tony
>
> Reading the user manual  it shows that I must use the WRT in
> conjunction with my dsl modem/router.
> Is this mandatory or what?

Yes - you need a DSL modem to connect to the Internet, and the LinkSys WRT54GL 
wireless router does not contain one, so must be connected to one for access 
to the Internet.

Lisi


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Re: Debian 5.0.2 network manager not working?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 28 June 2009 19:18:54 Mark Marcacci wrote:
> I've been installing Debian 5.0.1 via a downloaded jigdo DVD image from the
> official site.  This morning did a fresh laptop install and noticed it used
> 795 files total versus 809 last week when I did a few trial installations
> on the same machine with the same hardware.  One of the packages missing
> after booting into Gnome was Network Manager - previously was included in
> the base installation but this time I had to manually install the package. 
> I also noticed several fewer items in the System->Administration menu,
> notably things like Software Sources was gone.
>
> Anyone else notice this or did my installation just hiccup?  I've checked
> the debian.org page and didn't see any notes about these changes.  I'm
> currently DBAN'ing the hard drive preparing for another fresh installation
> but wanted to check first in case it's not specific to my machine.

I have had a similar experience with a recent installation of 5.0.1 with KDE.  
CUPS and K3b were missing.  Other applications may well also be missing, but 
have not so far been missed.

Lisi



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Re: New Dell netbook,Ubuntu,Debian and factory su password.

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 29 June 2009 16:28:11 thveillon.debian wrote:
> Luis Maceira wrote:
> > As a Debian user since 2005 last week I bought a Dell netbook running
> > Ubuntu (since it is Debian based),but I am unable to do administrative
> > tasks: upgrading,become su etc. because I cannot find the su password in
> > the docs that come with the netbook.Is there any standard password that
> > we use in these cases,so after we can choose our own su password?
>
> Hi, Ubuntu works with "sudo" only (and your user password), the root
> password isn't configured. You can use the "passwd" command to set it I
> believe.
>
> Tom

Or you can do sudo -i or sudo su and enter the main user's password to get a 
shell from which you can do administrative tasks one after the other without 
having to keep entering  your password.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Gmail filtering. NOT OT

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 30 June 2009 02:13:43 Wayne Topa wrote:
> Wayne Topa wrote:
> > John W Foster wrote:
> >> I need to know how to keep gmail/ or maybe my own mailing list setting,
> >> from filtering out replys to posting on debian user and other debian
> >> lists.
> >> scenario: When I post an answer or a questions to this list or any
> >> debian list. I
> >> do not recieve the replies that are sent to my mailbox at gmail.com.
> >> Most or all of the other messages/posts do come thru. Seems that
> >> something is filtering out anything with my name as the sender or
> >> something. Not sure if this is explained prpoerly but if you have a
> >> gmail account maybe you can reply. FWIW: if you do not hit reply all to
> >> this I will never see the response. That is exactly the problem.
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > This mail sent with 'Reply to List' with another of my accounts in the
> > Cc:
> >
> > Gmail does not send 'your' mail back to you. Why, IDK, but there have
> > been numerous complaints about on this list, for months now.
> >
> > Two ways to solve it.
> > 1. If you have account on another ISP, put that addr in the Cc.
> > 2. If using Tbird (IceDove) move your posts, from your 'Sent Folder' to
> >  the debian-user folder.
>
> or set up a filter to send the reply to the 'other account', back to the
> debian-user folder.  This is the way I have it set up for all of my
> gmail accounts.
>
> > Or Complain to Google if that is too much work.

I retrieve my mail from GMail by POP3, but use my ISP's SMTP servers.  I do 
not have the problem.  It is sending through GMail's SMTP servers that causes 
the problem.  GMail probably thinks it is a feature!

Lisi  


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Re: how do i grep boobies

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 04 July 2009 20:33:14 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > $ sudo apt-get install woman
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > E: Couldn't find package woman
> > $
> >
> > Oh, oh.  Out of luck, I'd guess.
> >
> > ...unless there might still be some women somewhere on Usenet.
>
> alias woman "locate; talk; date; uptime; gawk; head; clean; sleep"

And then they wonder why some women find IT a hostile area

Seriously, there are female readers of this list.  Could we at least pretend 
that the rest of you think we are human beings, not blow-up toys for men to 
grope?

In other words, please can we lay this rather offensive thread to rest?

Lisi


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Re: Locale testing

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 06 December 2008 13:52:04 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I am having a hard time configuring my locale. Is there an application
> that will display a date, a currency value, a time, a large integer, a
> negative number, and some other locale-related data such that I can
> see how my system is configured?

Kcontrol -> regional and accessibility -> country/region and language.  
Adjust/accept. 

HTH
Lisi


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