On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:49:22 Paul E Condon wrote: > On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote: > > > On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Strong and Humble writes: > > > > > Just wanted to know if it is possible to specify a time zone that > > > > > has no winter time shift whole year? > > > > > > > > Sure. Many time zones have no "daylight savings" or "summer time". > > > > Just pick an appropriate one or create your own. > > > > > > > > > What I want is to stay the same time (without winter shift) whole > > > > > year, yet be able synchrinize my system time with a ntp-server. > > > > > > > > NTP deals exclusively in UTC. It has nothing to do with "time > > > > shift". > > > > > > > > What problem are you trying to solve? There may be a better > > > > approach. -- > > > > John Hasler > > > > > > I'm not OP, but I think I also want what, I believe, he wants, namely: > > > A locale that I can select that will give me text displays of the > > > time, and text displays of file mtimes that do not mention, or use, > > > summer time, ever. Is there such a wrong-thinker/outlier variation of > > > locale? A sort of a sub-culture locale, that isn't really an fully > > > accurate reflection of the dominant culture in my geographic region? > > > > > > For me, summer-time has always been something of an annoyance. With > > > the spread of computers in the sixties and seventies, I had hoped that > > > limitations of technology might kill summer-time. Instead, computer > > > technology has become an enabler of a feature of my culture that I do > > > not like. > > > > > > And let's see what OP was really asking for also. > > > > I'm a bit lost on this. When I install Lenny I am asked when I choose a > > timezone whether I want the system time (as opposed to hwclock, which I > > keep in UTC (or GMT)) to be adjusted for summer time or not. I say yes. > > So that is what I get. Could someone please explain, I genuinely don't > > understand :-(, why it is so difficult to say no? There presumably is a > > reason. Is it a bug? Am I just very lucky? > > > > Lisi > > A few weeks ago, my Lenny system switched over from displaying time in MST > (Mountain Standard Time) to MDT (Mountain Daylight Time). It did this, I > believe, because the switch-over is mandated in the official locale coding > for this region (Colorado). I would like to now how to take a pass on this > switch-over part of the local locale. And how to do it ahead of time, so > that for me, I don't have to find an unwanted task of undoing a unwanted > change waiting on a Sunday morning. My version of what I think OP was > asking for is a variant of locale that does not honor local mandates for > switching to and from summer-time. It is very much a cultural thing.
But my locale is set to the UK, and we have summer time (or daylight saving time). We lost the hour from 1:00 to 2:00 last night. So are you saying that the choice I am given is a non-choice and that I would get the same thing even if I answered no? Or are you saying that some locales are more dictatorial than others? Lisi Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
