Re: Using glibc debug version with gcc (SOLVED)

2005-07-01 Thread Paulo M C Aragão
Paulo M C Aragão wrote on Jul,  1:
> Hi All,
> 
> How do I tell gcc to use the debug version of glibc ?
> 
> I installed libc6-dbg but I just can't find out how to direct gcc to use
> the debug version of the libraries.

Sorry to bother everybody. I hadn't googled enough before:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug

Paulo


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Re: xfree86 on km4m-v m/b (s3virge onboard)

2005-07-01 Thread Kevin Mark
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 10:56:43AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> How do I get X running using the onboard S3virge graphics? I've run
> dpkg-reconfigure but when I run startx it reports 'no screens found'.
> This is on a new install of sarge.
> 
Hi rick,
please include the error message of the /var/log/XFree86.log or similar
files. But remove the uninteresting stuff. look for the EE lines.
Cheers,
Kev
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Re: System exiting due to kernel....

2005-07-01 Thread Robert Brockway
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Almut Behrens wrote:

> (In your case it hit the X server -- which might be considered
> suboptimal, with respect to keeping damage to the end user to a
> minimum... ;)

"The needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few (or the one)" :)

Debate on the best strategy for an OOM killer will go on forever :)

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Re: no kdm after 2.2->2.4

2005-07-01 Thread Joe Mc Cool

Andreas Janssen wrote:


Hello

Joe Mc Cool (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

 


I have just just upgraded from woody to sarge, no problem.

But when I upgrade from the 2.2.20 kernel to 2.4.27-2-686, kdm will
not start.

In /var/log/syslog I get error messages like:

Jun 27 17:47:24 solaris kdm: :0[610]: Hung in XOpenDisplay(:0),
aborting Jun 27 17:47:24 solaris kdm: :0[610]: Cannot connect to :0,
giving up Jun 27 17:47:24
[...]
I can run X ok and startkde, but I need kdm to provide user logins a
la kde.

With kernel 2.2.20 everything runs fine.
   



Can you find any useful information in /var/log/kdm.log?
 


The only mention there is that:


Note that your system uses syslog. All of kdm's internally generated 
messages

(i.e., not from libraries and external programs/scripts it uses) go to the
daemon.* syslog facility; check your syslog configuration to find out to 
which
file(s) it is logged. PAM logs messages related to authentication to 
authpriv.*.



A grep for kdm in /var/log/* reveals nothing bar the messages above in 
syslog.


Note that I can start X ok and run ordinary applications like xterm, kde 
etc.


in /etc/init.d if I try ./kdm start it tells me that kdm is already 
runing and a ps -ef | grep kdm confirms this, but I have no kdm login.   
If I try ./kdm restart it reports that it has restarted, but the ps -ef 
| grep kdm reports on kdm processes running and again, no kdm login.


All I am stuck for is the kdm login.

thanks a lot.

Joe


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Re: Moving Cyrus email from one folder to another

2005-07-01 Thread Lee Braiden
On Friday 01 Jul 2005 00:12, Caleb Walker wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am wondering if anyone out there has created a script that runs from
> cron that will move email from one folder to another.  What I would like
> to do is this:  I have publicly accessible folders that all imap users
> use called isSpam and notSpam which I use with the sa-learn program to
> learn about spam and ham emails.  What I want my script to do now is
> once it reads the messages to move them to a folder underneath or
> elsewhere called processed or something like that.  I could just move
> the dot files into that folder but I think that will mess up the indexes
> in Cyrus.

There is a package called imapsync (I think; maybe it's mailutils), which can 
synchronise mails between imap folders, or move them.  Not sure if you're 
planning to keep the isSpam folder in IMAP though, or outside of it.  If 
you're having learnspam scan IMAP folders over the IMAP protocol, I'd love to 
know how (it would make DBMail much more viable for me).

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Re: Help with broken Aptitude

2005-07-01 Thread Mark Sawle
Bryan Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a Debian Sarge box that was working fine until Sarge went stable.
>   Aptitude has started acting very strange,  in fact apt in general
> seems broken.  The symptoms are as follows.
> 
> 1.  I have had no upgrades when when I run "aptitude update, aptitude
> upgrade" since sarge went stable.
> 
> 2.  When trying to install a package from the command line using
> aptitude install  I get a "No installation cantidate" error.

Do you have pinning configured in /etc/apt/preferences?  I was experiencing
the exact same problem but just tried deleting this file and everything now
works again.

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Evolution browser

2005-07-01 Thread Glenn Davy
Hi all
I'm wondering how I can set evolution to open firefox. at the moment it
opens a shell, executes wget, then opens the result in vim. It wasn't
that long ago that it was using epiphany, though I don't know what
triggered the change.

incidentally /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser points to firefox,
executing 'sensible-browser' gnome-terminal opens firefox. The gnome
'preferred' browser is set to 'debian sensible browser' though changing
it to firefox doesn't change the situation.

any suggestions?
thanks
Glenn


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Re: Installing Yahoo Messenger 6.0 under wine

2005-07-01 Thread Ms Linuz
[KS] wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>I have been experimenting with Wine and it has been a pretty smooth road
>till I planned to install Yahoo Messenger 6.0 in Wine. It was written on
>the winhq.com database that YM6.0 was able to run under wine. My Wine
>installation is an independent one, i.e. it does not use the actual
>Windows partition I already have. I got the yahoo messenger installer
>file ymsgrie.exe for yahoo 6.0 by copying it off my Windows partition
>Yahoo Messenger installation. When I try to start the installation, wine
>gives the following error(or warnings?), and stops:
>
>~$ wine Desktop/ymsgrie.exe
>Invoking /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin Desktop/ymsgrie.exe ...
>Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels
>to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the
>config file
>Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels
>to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the
>config file
>fixme:advapi:GetFileSecurityW (L"X:\\GLFe3e.tmp") : returns fake
>SECURITY_DESCRIPTOR
>fixme:ntdll:RtlImpersonateSelf (0001), stub
>wine: Unhandled exception (thread 000b), starting debugger...
>Usage: winedbg [--auto] [--gdb] cmdline
>
>
>~$ dpkg -l wine*
>Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
>|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
>uppercase=bad)
>||/ Name  Version   Description
>+++-=-=-==
>ii  wine  0.0.20050524-1Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)
>pn  wine-doc  (no description available)
>ii  wine-utils0.0.20050524-1Windows Emulator (Utilities)
>un  winesetup (no description available)
>ii  winesetuptk   0.7-1.1   Windows Emulator (Configuration
>and Setup Tool)
>
>
>Can anyone help me getting this installed? has anyone seen similar
>problems when installing software under wine?
>
>Thanks for any help/pointers,
>/KS
>
>  
>

I'd got the same problem.
And I don't want to go further more with that. If wine doesn't run
winprogram correctly I just leave it and look for alternatives in
linux world. Unless something's really important.
There's so much alternative for Yahoo! client ( I believe you've
already known ) such as Gaim, Kopete, etc.
I assume the reason why you want Y!M v.6 is because its eye candy,
then Gaim now has a lot enhancement on that. Kopete is nice too.
I don't see a feature in Y!M v.6 that hasn't provided yet on those
alternatives.


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Re: acrobat shortcuts

2005-07-01 Thread roberto

--- Luis Finotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 
> 
> This is likely not the case, but...  Some older versions of acroread did 
> not respond to shortcuts if you had "Num Lock" on.  But since you are 
> using on a laptop, I doubt it is the case.  Just in case...

actually you shot right!
when "Num Lock" is off the problem is off too

But which is the last free available version of Reader for Linux?
I currently old the 5th, but under WS i can download also the 7th!

thank you

Roberto
Debian Sarge
kernel 2.6.8






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mouse wheel

2005-07-01 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
I can i get working my mouse wheel?
I'm running gnome. I tried to cheat with the XF86Config options, as
explained in the XF86 documentation, but nothing

Thnx
PAolo



Re: mouse wheel

2005-07-01 Thread Lee Braiden
On Friday 01 Jul 2005 10:47, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
> I can i get working my mouse wheel?
> I'm running gnome. I tried to cheat with the XF86Config options, as
> explained in the XF86 documentation, but nothing

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

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Re: mouse wheel

2005-07-01 Thread Ms Linuz
Paolo Pantaleo wrote:

>I can i get working my mouse wheel?
>I'm running gnome. I tried to cheat with the XF86Config options, as
>explained in the XF86 documentation, but nothing
>
>Thnx
>PAolo
>
>
>  
>
You should describe your problem more informative so others figure out
what kind of problem you're excactly facing at.
- What kind of mouse ?
- Which version of X ?
- Whisch kernel ?
- How is your X configuration looks like ?
- What "cheat" you had tried as you said ?

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Re: courier or cyrus ?

2005-07-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On (01/07/05 11:55), Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> Which is better ? Why ? I need some information before chose one of
> them . Thank you !

I dunno ;)  However, I've just installed dovecot on two mailservers and
it seems to woprk straight out of the box (with exim4)

Regards

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Re: 3d accel and agpgart

2005-07-01 Thread Wackojacko

From: "Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian User List" 
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:39 AM
Subject: 3d accel and agpgart



Greetings:

I'm tryiing to get 3d acceleration working on my IBM R40 laptop running 
Sarge

(3.1). I'm attempting to follow the instructions at
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting.

It says to do "dmesg | grep drm" and if it displays nothing, then "compile
agpgart into your kernel or load it as a module." I can load agpgart with
"insmod agpgart" so I know that the module exists.

I tried adding Load: "agpgart" to /etc/X11/XF86config-4, but then when I 
do a

dmesg | grep agpgart I get:

[drm] Initialized radeon 1.7.0 20020828 on minor 0
[drm: radeon unlock] *ERROR* Process 1847 using kernel context 0

XFree86.0.log says:

(II) LoadModule: "agpgart"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module agpgart
(II) UnloadModule: "agpgart"
(EE) Failed to load module "agpgart" (module does not exist, 0)

But if I do a insmod agpgart, it says that it already exists.

A little later in the instructions, it says that I need to load the 
agpgart

module before the radeon module. XFree86's log indicates that indeed the
radeon module loads later.

The instructions don't seem to address the above problems. Any ideas?

Any input is appreciated, My knowledge and experience is limited.

- Elmer E. Dow

This looks similar to the problem I had recently with X not finding my 
Nvidia module.  Try adding the agpgart module to /etc/modules so it is 
loaded on boot and will be available when X tries to load it.


I'm a relative newbie also so I may be barking up the wrong tree but it 
might be worth a shot.


Wackojacko 




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Re: [Detente] Fw: TR: Le prix des carburants, une honte

2005-07-01 Thread Nguyen Quoc Khanh
Tout a fait d'accord avec Mr Chan ! Idee stupide basee sur des informations
, connaissances et donnees fausses :
(1) Mr Chan l'a dit , les marges des compagnies petrolieres ne representent
meme pas 25% du prix a la pompe le reste c'est l'Etat qui le fixe par la
TIPP ( Taxe Interieure sur les Produits Petroliers ) et la TVA ( plus
quelques autres contributions par ci par la puisqu'on sait que
l'automobiliste est la " vache a lait" du budget de l'Etat...) .Une
augmentation de la part des raffineurs/distributeurs de 10% ne represente
que 2,5 % du prix total a la pompe et pourrait n'avoir aucune repercussion
sur celui ci si l'Etat consentait a reduire faiblement les taxes.
(2) Les 25 % qui reviennent aux compagnies servent a financer l'exploration
de petrole dont le monde a besoin encore pour 50 a 70 ans encore au moins
 un puits d'exploration en offshore coute 20 a 30 millions de USD et il faut
en faire 20 a 25  avant d'avoir une chance de faire une decouverte
commercialement exploitable.Ils servent en suite a f inancer la production
des gisements commercialement exploitables.Les couts de production actuels
varient selon les sites de production de 20 a 45 USD le barril.En dessous
personne n'investit pour le renouvellement des reserves et ce sera la
penurie donc la hausse des prix.Il faut ensuite transporter le petrole
produit sur les marches de consommation ,car on le sait les productions ont
lieu dans les zones a faible demande ( le Moyen ou l'Extreme Orient ,
l'Afrique etc..) alors que les zones a demandes elevees sont l'Europe et les
USA.Enfin il faut le raffiner ce brut : une raffinerie de 6 millions
tonnes/an coute de 1,5 milliards a 2,5 milliards d'USD d'investissement
qu'il faut bien amortir et remunerer ...sinon qui va investir alors que la
demande continue a augmenter demandant sans cesse des augmentations de
l'offre de produits finis ? Puis il faut un reseau de depots de stockage et
de points de distribution aux couts d'investissement pas negligeables et
d'exploitation eleves.Tout ceci sans parler des couts necessaires dans toute
la chaine des operations precedentes pour minimiser les risques en matiere
de securite,hygiene,sante et protection de l'environnementtout ca pour
25 % du prix de la pompe alors que l'Etat en preleve 75% !
(3) Si Esso est americain , Shell ne l'est pas : elle est europeenne ( 60%
hollandais et 40% anglais) comme la BP qui est anglaise.De plus ses
actionnaires sont tres largement multinationaux puisque ses actions sont
cotees sur la plupart des grandes Bourses du monde ( 8% sont dans les mains
de francais comme vous et moi).Enfin Esso est depuis 10 ans fusionnee avec
Mobil : boycotter Esso et pas Mobil n'a pas de sens.De meme BP est numero 2
mondial derriere Esso/Mobil alors pourquoi Shell et pas BP ??
(4) A supposer que cela marche ( impensable...mais ce n'est qu'une
supposition) ici encore Mr Chan a raison : ce sont les raffineurs qui
comptent pas ,les marques de  distribution .Shell et Esso ont en effet plus
d'une centaine de raffineries de part le monde  et sont presents sur plus de
100 pays.S'ils jettent l'eponge et fusionnent avec BP et Total , au lieu
d'avoir 4 acteurs majeurs qui sont en competition on n'en aura plus que 2
...ca ne va pas dans le sens d'un avantage pour les consommateurs
 oiligopole...).
Priere de ne plus me mettre sur la liste de distribution de ce genre de
mails farfelus ! merci d'avance !
Nguyen Quoc Khanh
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Ho Chi Minh City
Tel +848 823 20 68
Fax +848 827 79 91
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Re: courier or cyrus ?

2005-07-01 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 11:55 +0700, Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> Which is better ? Why ? I need some information before chose one of
> them . Thank you !

I cannot tell you which is better, but I can tell you they have
strengths in different places.   I've used courier for years, and I've
never had any issues with it.  You apt-get install it and forget about
it.   The only downside I can see is that it gets slower with large
mailboxes.

Here's where I like Cyrus.  I have a number of mail folders with mailing
list mails (I don't delete anything).  I make subfolders for each year
in each inbox to archive the past year's mail in.  So I have a lot of
mail folders that have between 30,000 and 70,000 mails in them each.
This gets very slow in courier, but hardly slows down in Cyrus.

Another advantage of Cyrus is that it has a built in cluster
architecture, called MURDER (I think).  Once this is set up, adding more
machines to cope with increased load becomes easier.

The downside is that Cyrus is a bit more complex to configure, the
official docs is as old as the mountains, and (my worst gripe), it
doesn't like it if you fiddle with the underlying file/directory
structure of the mailboxes.

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Re: [Detente] Fw: TR: Le prix des carburants, une honte

2005-07-01 Thread Khanh Cao Van
xin loi ca nha , em chang hieu gi ca , sao cac bac noi tieng' phap
trong nay the ???



On 7/1/05, Nguyen Quoc Khanh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tout a fait d'accord avec Mr Chan ! Idee stupide basee sur des informations
> , connaissances et donnees fausses :
> (1) Mr Chan l'a dit , les marges des compagnies petrolieres ne representent
> meme pas 25% du prix a la pompe le reste c'est l'Etat qui le fixe par la
> TIPP ( Taxe Interieure sur les Produits Petroliers ) et la TVA ( plus
> quelques autres contributions par ci par la puisqu'on sait que
> l'automobiliste est la " vache a lait" du budget de l'Etat...) .Une
> augmentation de la part des raffineurs/distributeurs de 10% ne represente
> que 2,5 % du prix total a la pompe et pourrait n'avoir aucune repercussion
> sur celui ci si l'Etat consentait a reduire faiblement les taxes.
> (2) Les 25 % qui reviennent aux compagnies servent a financer l'exploration
> de petrole dont le monde a besoin encore pour 50 a 70 ans encore au moins
>  un puits d'exploration en offshore coute 20 a 30 millions de USD et il faut
> en faire 20 a 25  avant d'avoir une chance de faire une decouverte
> commercialement exploitable.Ils servent en suite a f inancer la production
> des gisements commercialement exploitables.Les couts de production actuels
> varient selon les sites de production de 20 a 45 USD le barril.En dessous
> personne n'investit pour le renouvellement des reserves et ce sera la
> penurie donc la hausse des prix.Il faut ensuite transporter le petrole
> produit sur les marches de consommation ,car on le sait les productions ont
> lieu dans les zones a faible demande ( le Moyen ou l'Extreme Orient ,
> l'Afrique etc..) alors que les zones a demandes elevees sont l'Europe et les
> USA.Enfin il faut le raffiner ce brut : une raffinerie de 6 millions
> tonnes/an coute de 1,5 milliards a 2,5 milliards d'USD d'investissement
> qu'il faut bien amortir et remunerer ...sinon qui va investir alors que la
> demande continue a augmenter demandant sans cesse des augmentations de
> l'offre de produits finis ? Puis il faut un reseau de depots de stockage et
> de points de distribution aux couts d'investissement pas negligeables et
> d'exploitation eleves.Tout ceci sans parler des couts necessaires dans toute
> la chaine des operations precedentes pour minimiser les risques en matiere
> de securite,hygiene,sante et protection de l'environnementtout ca pour
> 25 % du prix de la pompe alors que l'Etat en preleve 75% !
> (3) Si Esso est americain , Shell ne l'est pas : elle est europeenne ( 60%
> hollandais et 40% anglais) comme la BP qui est anglaise.De plus ses
> actionnaires sont tres largement multinationaux puisque ses actions sont
> cotees sur la plupart des grandes Bourses du monde ( 8% sont dans les mains
> de francais comme vous et moi).Enfin Esso est depuis 10 ans fusionnee avec
> Mobil : boycotter Esso et pas Mobil n'a pas de sens.De meme BP est numero 2
> mondial derriere Esso/Mobil alors pourquoi Shell et pas BP ??
> (4) A supposer que cela marche ( impensable...mais ce n'est qu'une
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what programe like chconfig as in redhat

2005-07-01 Thread Khanh Cao Van
I'm news for debian and used to chkconfig in redhat to manage deamon
scripts to startup at boottime or not . Could you please tell me what
program in debian with the fuction like that ?
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Re: apache behind nat

2005-07-01 Thread Mal Beaton
Brent Clark wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> I have an apache server that is behind a natted fw.
> My apache was working, but now for some funny reason if keep supplying
> the webbrowser the private ip.
> 
> the dns is fine because all resolves etc, but in the web browser it says
> fetching 192.168.111.11
> 
> I looked in the host file.
> 
> If anyone has any tips or advice, it would be most apprciated.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Brent Clark
> 
> 
> 

check your ServerName in httpd.conf

make sure it is the fully qualified domain name

If you own the natted firewall look at putting apache on it and

using mod_rewrite

RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://192.168.111.11/$1 [proxy]
ProxyPassReverse / http://192.168.111.11/

that way the connections are not being natted in but accepted on the
external facing apache then redirected in




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Re: sarge and software patents

2005-07-01 Thread Geoff Thurman
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 03:36:18PM -0500, Steve Block wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 10:25:47PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
> >Kent West wrote:
> >
> >>Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>>My little sister could  register on a web site.
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>
> >>and
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>>If tomorrow my job is to migrate Linux plateforms onto windows, then
> >>>i'll feel like  and will soon be unemployed.
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>Realizing that different cultures have different concepts of "foul
> >>language", this is just a reminder of Debian's stated policy, from
> >>http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>>   Code of conduct
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists via
> >>>packet radio, where swearing is illegal.
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >There are other languages and behaviors that don't use  or  bit 
> >are much worst.
> >
> >There is a huge misinformation campaign to make deputies think software 
> >patents are necessary for innovation.
> >Many people are mooving. Like writing letters to their deputies and to 
> >newspapers.
> >
> >The more people would have been reacting, the more chance we would have 
> >to avoid the disaster.
> >It's sad that software has to deal with politics. Also sad you think i'm 
> >the bas guy.
> 
> You're making jerk of yourself in front of hundreds of people. Please
> stop or take your comments to slashdot, where they belong.


But isn't he right, at the end of the day, to be concerned about
software patents? Are the large companies not going to use the
legislation in the same way McDonalds used the libel law? Personally I
find the way politics is run these days far more obscene than one or two
swear words, as well. And I would have thought this list was exactly the
right place for a discussion of these issues. Why is it not?


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[no subject]

2005-07-01 Thread mts.mail



i went to debian sight for net install it failed i 
then went to find two dvd  that work
dvd's at debain sight dont work etiher what can i 
do? been trying to get  dvd
that wil work to install 
debian


SATA problems

2005-07-01 Thread Jim Blake

I have a Shuttle ST205G, with 2 x 80GB SATA drives in it. I have
confidence in the hardware, when installed with Windows, even the SATA
RAID (ULi M5287) works fine (F6 to load Raid Driver)

However, with Debian (Sarge) I get as far as trying to set up
partitions, and no disks can be seen by the installer. I've tried with
SATA RAID disabled in BIOS, so there are just 2 SATA drives there,
whcih I would "Software" RAID if I could see them, and I've tried with
the BIOS RAID (1) enabled, which presents the RAID array as a SCSI
interface, but in both cases I cannot see the disks.

I believe SATA support was included in the kernel from 2.6.10, but even
when I try to install with a 2.6 kernel and the NetBoot disk, it fails.

I think I need to add some drivers, etc to the kernel, but I'm not
confident (on what is needed *or* how to do it!). I've googled around
for a couple of days, and everything points in this direction, but I
need to be sure before I hack round and create a bigger problem than I
already have.



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Re: Fakeraid vs softwareraid? (was Promise FastTrak100 on Sarge install?)

2005-07-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On (01/07/05 00:38), Roman Muñoz wrote:
> > This reminds me of the problems I had setting up a server recently
> > which had the dreaded Promise FastTrak100 interface on the
> > motherboard.
> 
> Wow. On woody it works _fine_.
> 
> So sarge is finally here to kick off my fakeraid card? (purchased as
> "true" hardware raid) No very good news. At least I see that software
> raid is on d-i. I did set some pure software raids on woody. I think it
> will be a lot easier now. What do you think about fakeraid vs pure
> software raid performance?. 

Hi Roman

Not something I've ever investigated.  There's been quite a lot of
discussion on the list on quasi (cheap) hardware raid cards.  My
impression is that software raid has a number of advantages.  I just had
a quick google for the threads but without success; someone else may be
able to supply better info.

Regards

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[OT] Apple will run on IBM compatible Intel pcs

2005-07-01 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi,

Saw this posted at :

___
This is dramatic. It's been joked that hell will freeze over before
apple will run on IBM compatible / Intel pc's,
 but it
happened.

 This will mean 
faster chips and lower cost for macs, and this is good. We will have 
high performance linux on pc servers and slickly usable macs on pc
desktop.

This is perhaps the biggest move by Apple since OSX or the iTMS/iPods,
and is probably the reason they rewrote the OS to run on Darwin in OSX
(so it can compile to multiple cpus). Perhaps MacOS will finally be
ready for the masses, if they make the PPC -> Intel app porting as easy
as advertised and Windows app -> IntelMac porting easy too. I look
forward to it, OSX (especially Tiger) certainly has qualities to make
Windows nervous.

And then there's Debian releasing a new version.


Is it armageddon yet?
___

OK, because Debian releases a new version, doesn't mean the devil will
go to work on ice skates :-), but apple will run on IBM compatibles?

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Re: Renice cron

2005-07-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 02:35:52PM +0200, Lars Roland wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Is it possible to renice a single cronjob from within crontab ?.

Have you tried?

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Re: display resolution

2005-07-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:16:41PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 01:50:06PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >From another OS I know that a system here will display 
> > at 1024 x 768 x 16.  "startx" alone appears to produce
> > a 
> > resolution of 640 x 480.  The man page tells me how to 
> > specify the color depth.  Can the 1024 x 768 resolution 
> > also be specified?  How?
> 
> Use the videogen to generate Modelines for XFree86 servers.
> Put the approppriate line in your XF86Config-4 file, in the 
> Section "Monitor" .

Hi,

Try adding to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Section "Screen"
[..]
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection

the resolution you want explicitly e.g for 1024x768 @16
edit the above "Modes" line to
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

Adjust for other depths as needed.

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Re: Netinstall fail

2005-07-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On (01/07/05 04:20), mts.mail wrote:
> i went to debian sight for net install it failed i then went to find two dvd  
> that work
> dvd's at debain sight dont work etiher what can i do? been trying to get  dvd
> that wil work to install debian

Go to: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable

pick your architecture and download the .iso image.  Burn it as an .iso
image (Track at Once)... and it should boot.  I've never tried the
DVD install and so can't help with that.

Regards

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Re: what programe like chconfig as in redhat

2005-07-01 Thread Mal Beaton
Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> I'm news for debian and used to chkconfig in redhat to manage deamon
> scripts to startup at boottime or not . Could you please tell me what
> program in debian with the fuction like that ?

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Re: Renice cron

2005-07-01 Thread Lars Roland
On 7/1/05, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 02:35:52PM +0200, Lars Roland wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Is it possible to renice a single cronjob from within crontab ?.
> 
> Have you tried?

Of cause I have - stop posting unless you have something help full or
intelligent to say -  all the post pointing to how it is done does not
seam to work in debian sarge (at least not with vixie-cron).


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mkinitrd & evms. Chicken and egg?

2005-07-01 Thread Tom Larard
Hi,

I'd like to mount my root partition on /dev/evms/hda1. Currently it is
mounted on /dev/hda1.  (The reason for wanting to do this is so I can
use hda[2-10] with evms)

Mkinitrd correctly probes my root device (as it is now), and notices
that it is not an evms volume, and hence excludes the evms programs
from the initrd. It will create an initrd with evms support if the
root partition is already *already* mounted through evms, but I can't
do that until I have an initrd with evms support!

I looked at the ROOT=probe option in the mkinitrd.conf, which seems to
allow specifying the root device and its type, but I couldn't find any
examples of what to enter here.

Is there some way to force mkinitrd to add the evms support? 

Thanks,

Tom



Re: two basic "new to Debian" questions: network config & RMS

2005-07-01 Thread vineyard saker
Thanks to all for your info and pointers!

VS



Re: Renice cron

2005-07-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On (01/07/05 14:12), Lars Roland wrote:
> On 7/1/05, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 02:35:52PM +0200, Lars Roland wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Is it possible to renice a single cronjob from within crontab ?.
> > 
> > Have you tried?
> 
> Of cause I have - stop posting unless you have something help full or
> intelligent to say -  all the post pointing to how it is done does not
> seam to work in debian sarge (at least not with vixie-cron).

Hi Lars

I suspect Chris's response was prompted by the lack of detail in your
question.  If you tell us what you've tried and what errors you
encountered, someone may be able to help.

People are generally very helpful on this list but you need to help us
to help you:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Regards

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Re: sarge and software patents

2005-07-01 Thread Adam Hardy

Geoff Thurman on 01/07/05 11:50, wrote:

But isn't he right, at the end of the day, to be concerned about
software patents? Are the large companies not going to use the
legislation in the same way McDonalds used the libel law? Personally I
find the way politics is run these days far more obscene than one or two
swear words, as well. And I would have thought this list was exactly the
right place for a discussion of these issues. Why is it not?



Yes Guillaume is right to be worried, but he is not right to direct his 
energy into ranting at his fellow techies like some bible-bashing zealot.


If he goes here, he will see what I meant. I have emailed their 
webmaster already.


http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/help/email.html

Sign Up to Help
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Re: mouse wheel

2005-07-01 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
> 
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> 

Well i solved the problem the mouse protocol have to be
ImPS/2
but was
PS/2
Thnx for the help
(As i supposed i had not to recompile the kernel...)


Anyway i run pdkg-reconfigure, but i didn't find where it writes the
XF86Config-4 file (does it generate that file?), so imodified
/etc/X11/XF86COnfig-4 by hand.

PAolo



Re: Renice cron

2005-07-01 Thread Lars Roland
On 7/1/05, Clive Menzies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Lars
> 
> I suspect Chris's response was prompted by the lack of detail in your
> question.  If you tell us what you've tried and what errors you
> encountered, someone may be able to help.

Ok that is of cause a valid clam - I might have made the massage a
little short - what I was refereeing to is actually a quite old
discussion about niced cron jobs  (i.e.if they should be allowed or
not) and I just wanted to know if it actually was possible now, that
was why I kept it short - I can renice the task from with in itself
(i.e by getting the pidof itself and then renice it) but setting a
level in crontab would be much nicer.

See this post for an old (inconclusive) discussion about niced cron jobs:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/06/msg01697.html


Regards.

Lars Roland



Re: mouse wheel

2005-07-01 Thread michael
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 14:36 +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:

> Anyway i run pdkg-reconfigure, but i didn't find where it writes the
> XF86Config-4 file (does it generate that file?), so imodified
> /etc/X11/XF86COnfig-4 by hand.
> 

the reason for above is either in the man pages and these archives.
essentially once you've editted XF86Config (changed the md5) then
package managers assume you won't want them to write all over your
changes. the fix is also in said sources


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Sarge Install | From floppy & DVD | Not finding hard drive or wireless

2005-07-01 Thread David Hart
Hi,

Installing for the first time. I have Sarge on DVD, but my machine
won't boot from them so
using floppys. Using the boot.img, root.img and cd-drivers.img from the 1st DVD.

Problem 1 - Does not detect my Belkin 802.11g PCI card (F5D7000).
I will leave this until after install to fix, but it means I have no network

The installer then insists on trying to find a mirror - of course it
can't with no network.

Problem 2 - In hardware detect it says it is missing a load of files:
ata_piix
ide-scsi
ide-mod
ide-probe-mod
ide-generic
ide-floppy

I then can't partition or install because it "can't find any
partitionable drives".

It have a feeling that I need to point the installer to the DVD rather
than a mirror and it will find these files and install - but I just
can't see how to do this. I know it is reading from the DVD after
asking for the driver floppy, so it is def. mounted. Am I missing an
installation option?

The machine is a Dell 5000 with SATA HDD on SATA -0, CD-Rom on IDE
(primary) and DVD writer on IDE (secondary).

Thanks a lot,

David Hart



Re: installing sarge to lvm

2005-07-01 Thread mess-mate
Ryan Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Wednesday 29 June 2005 11:46 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
| > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:39:03PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
| > > I'm confused by the sarge installer. I have a single 250g hard drive
| > > that I would like to manage entirely with lvm. The installer wants to
| > > partition the drive *before* configuring lvm but I thought that
| > > partitions existed within the lvm. Have I misunderstood? How should I do
| > > the initial partitioning? Do I setup a small boot and then the rest as
| > > root?
| >
IMHO there's no need using LVM with the actually large HD's.
I've a box with LVM with little HD capacity ( 4G).
Every partition have the LVM support EXCEPT /boot.
At now no problems.
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/gv_hda5-vl_data /data  ext3defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/gv_hdb-lv_home /home  ext3acl,defaults1
2
/dev/mapper/gv_hdb-lv_res  /resext3defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/gv_hda5-vl_usr /usrext3defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/gv_hda5-vl_var /var   ext3acl,defaults1
2

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Changing debian/rules == failure

2005-07-01 Thread schnitzel meister
Hello.

I was under the impression that rebuilding a debian package was a
simple matter of editing the debian/rules file and running debuild.

It fails. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I need to rebuild php4-sybase to use the Sybase libraries rather than
the tds libraries.
Editing debian/rules seems to break other patches needed by the build.

Here's what I did:
 apt-get install devscripts
 apt-get source php4-sybase
 apt-get build-dep php4-sybase

Next I edited debian/rules so that
 --with-sybase-ct=shared,/usr
was changed to
 --with-sybase-ct=shared,/opt/sybase/OCS_12-5

(I've ignored the --without-sybase-ct lines for moment, since I want
to get it building first.)

Running "debuild -us -uc" gives me an error:
 make: *** [patch-stamp] Error 1
 debuild: fatal error at line 765:
 dpkg-buildpackage failed!

I get errors further up too, such as:
patching file ext/standard/url.c
patching file ext/standard/url_scanner_ex.c
 Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
 Hunk #2 succeeded at 107 (offset 2 lines).
 Hunk #3 FAILED at 153.
 Hunk #4 succeeded at 353 (offset 13 lines).
 Hunk #5 FAILED at 397.
 Hunk #6 FAILED at 462.
 Hunk #7 succeeded at 498 (offset 26 lines).
 Hunk #8 FAILED at 561.
 Hunk #9 succeeded at 596 (offset 35 lines).
 Hunk #10 FAILED at 643.
 Hunk #11 succeeded at 669 (offset 41 lines).
 Hunk #12 FAILED at 719.
 Hunk #13 succeeded at 758 (offset 48 lines).
 Hunk #14 FAILED at 823.
 Hunk #15 FAILED at 870.
 Hunk #16 succeeded at 1085 (offset 65 lines). 9 out of 16 hunks
FAILED -- saving rejects to file ext/standard/url_scanner_ex.c.rej

The compile works fine before I modify the rules file, and I can't see
any references to sybase within url_scanner_ex.c

Anyone help?



Re: sarge and software patents

2005-07-01 Thread Kent West
Geoff Thurman wrote:

>But isn't he right, at the end of the day, to be concerned about
>software patents?
>
Yes.

>And I would have thought this list was exactly the
>right place for a discussion of these issues.
>
Not so much, no. A better place would be debian-legal
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/).

> Why is it not?
>  
>
Because this list is for "Support for Debian users who speak English"
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/). Political issues are not really
support issues.

The general consensus has been that short-lived off-topic threads are
acceptable as long as they don't stray too far from the interests of the
list members (and they should be marked "OT" in the subject line).
Guillaume's original posting was probably considered by most members as
perfectly acceptable, even raising our conciousness of the issue. But
when no one responded, he went semi-ballistic, and now the whole thread
has just become, for lack of a better term, "trollish". His lack of
grammar/spelling didn't help (see recent "Hackers, Spelling, and
Grammar?" link on Slashdot
(http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/30/1532238&tid=215&tid=4)
for relevant discussion)).

Again, the occasional off-topic side discussion about software patents
is probably perfectly acceptable on this list (although it more better
belongs on debian-legal), Guillaume just needs to learn "how to win
friends and influence people" rather than bullying them into his way of
thinking.

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Re: [Detente] Fw: TR: Le prix des carburants, une honte

2005-07-01 Thread Khanh Cao Van
maillist gi vay nhi ? Cac anh o Phap a ?



On 7/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> Ca'c ba.n bên VN cha? cân hiê?u  mâ'y ca'i chuyê.n vo* vâ?n ,  nha?m nhi'
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Re: what programe like chconfig as in redhat

2005-07-01 Thread Khanh Cao Van
But I read the man page , there'no no option to list all deamon that
run at the level 3 at bootime .
With redhat I could do as chkconfig --list | grep 3:on

How could I do it in Debian ?


On 7/1/05, Mal Beaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> > I'm news for debian and used to chkconfig in redhat to manage deamon
> > scripts to startup at boottime or not . Could you please tell me what
> > program in debian with the fuction like that ?
> 
> update-rc.d
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Need help securing mail server: already got hacked.

2005-07-01 Thread John Foster
I have exim4 using the heavy daemon set up and it runs fine. I am setting it 
up to serve mail for 5 sites (all my own) that I have on a single box using 
Apache2 and as virtual sites. All is working fine . I was advised that I 
should set up a pop3 server in order to allow access from a remote system to 
these mail sites. Again (I used popa3d)  everything worked fine. The problem 
is, I got hacked almost immediately and my mail system was used to send a 
load of spam all over the place. The result is that I have had to shut down 
the servers until I get my system hardened enough to do the job & quit 
getting hijacked by spammers. I have been reading the docs but time is not my 
friend here I need to get this done ASAP so I can get these servers turned 
back on. My ISP will shut me down if I leave the system up in its current 
state. All tips greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Re: Need help securing mail server: already got hacked.

2005-07-01 Thread Jacob S
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:35:49 -0500
John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have exim4 using the heavy daemon set up and it runs fine. I am
> setting it  up to serve mail for 5 sites (all my own) that I have on a
> single box using  Apache2 and as virtual sites. All is working fine .
> I was advised that I  should set up a pop3 server in order to allow
> access from a remote system to  these mail sites. Again (I used
> popa3d)  everything worked fine. The problem  is, I got hacked almost
> immediately and my mail system was used to send a  load of spam all
> over the place. The result is that I have had to shut down  the
> servers until I get my system hardened enough to do the job & quit 
> getting hijacked by spammers. I have been reading the docs but time is
> not my  friend here I need to get this done ASAP so I can get these
> servers turned  back on. My ISP will shut me down if I leave the
> system up in its current  state. All tips greatly appreciated.
> Thanks!

[Note: hacking is what knowledgeable sys-admins do when they can't find
a program that perfectly meets their need. Cracking is what bad guys do
to break into your server. Hacking is good, cracking is bad.]

Are you sure it got hacked or did you have exim4 setup as an open relay?
An open relay is much easier to fix than a cracked server.

To have your server tested to see if it is an open relay and have the
results e-mailed to you, go to www.ordb.org.

If your server was really cracked, you are best doing a full re-install.
But first, you might try to analyze how they got in and what they used
to gain root (or if they even got root). Run chkrootkit to see what
it can find and maybe use a Fire[1] cd to do some forensics on the
server. Then make sure you are using the latest versions of all of your
packages and setup an iptables firewall on the machine. 

As an aside, I sometimes wonder if Nationwide would even notice that you
got cracked. August's service has gone down quite a bit since they were
bought out. :-(

HTH,
Jacob

[1] http://fire.dmzs.com/


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Re: xmms skips all files

2005-07-01 Thread chrish




On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 09:28 -0300, Francisco Borges wrote:


Sorry I took a few days to return to this. Unexpected (unrelated)
problems in the last few days...

» On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 08:24PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

> >I would clear the play list. Then try just one file. If that does not
> >work, can you play that one file with another player?

Loading only one file still does not work as well. The same file can be
used with amarok (which I don't dare to use normally because amarok is
waay too buggy).

> Maybe you don't have the rights on those files... Do they belongs to the
> same user who launch xmms?

I own all files, I have read and write access to them.

» On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 05:02PM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote:

> It just seems to skip anything it can't play for whatever reason.  If
> the files are really there (not just there, on the path that xmms is
> looking for them), check your audio settings, and the
> presence/non-presence of audio daemons, as Aurélien suggested.

I tried all possible audio playing plugins:
OSS driver
Esound Output
Disk Writer
ALSA

These are all marked as 1.2.10.

Thanks for all the suggestions and attention anyway...

At the moment I'm also taking suggestions on other mp3 players and
decent web radio being broadcasted in Real format :-|

Just tried to get mpd to work and failed...

Cheers,
Francisco.




I had this problem with Ubuntu.  XMMS would play ok if started as root but not myself.
do a ps -aux and make sure there are no processes running that shouldn't be  (or have hung).
In my case it was Evolution crashing that had not freed up the audio hardware/mixer/whatever so XMMS could use it.

Oh yeah ... Amarok..Buggy??  Best media player on ANY platform that i have ever used.  Feel very smug about this piece of Free Software.

Chris

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read only root and udev

2005-07-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi there,

I have a 2.6.12 debian sarge system running from compactflash which
I am trying to convert to read-only root.

Following the information at these sites:

http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/readonly-root-README.txt
http://roland.entierement.nu/index.php/archives/2005/04/04/read-only-debian-on-soekris-howto/

I have achieved most of what I want to do, but putting the small
number of files and directories that must be writable onto a tmpfs
at /dev/shm and symlinking to them.

I then tried to tackle the remaining minor problem of the system not
being able to change permissions of various devices when I log in.
The first URL above suggests udev.

So I apt-get install udev and reboot.

Things did not go smoothly; it seems my /dev/shm is mounted by
/etc/rcS.d/S02mountvirtfs but then sometime later it is umounted
again by something (I can't work out what), leaving me with no
writable filesystems and no daemons can start.

Anyone more experienced with udev have any ideas what is going on?

Thanks,
Andy


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Re: mouse wheel

2005-07-01 Thread Wackojacko

On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 14:36 +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:


Anyway i run pdkg-reconfigure, but i didn't find where it writes the
XF86Config-4 file (does it generate that file?), so imodified
/etc/X11/XF86COnfig-4 by hand.



the reason for above is either in the man pages and these archives.
essentially once you've editted XF86Config (changed the md5) then
package managers assume you won't want them to write all over your
changes. the fix is also in said sources


Its actually in the header of the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.  It tells you 
how to reset the MD5 sum of the file before running dpkg-reconfigure to 
ensure the file is recreated.  It also advises you to back up the config 
file first, especially important if you have edited by hand, e.g. added 
specific monitor mode lines etc.


HTH

Wackojacko 




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Re: xmms skips all files

2005-07-01 Thread Andre Venter
A decent site to have a look at streaming radio stations is 
shoucast.com..Real player plays them (as does X Multimedia system).


Typically if XMMS skips files you have a permissions or file system problem.


- Original Message - 
From: chrish

To: Debian User
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: xmms skips all files


On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 09:28 -0300, Francisco Borges wrote:
Sorry I took a few days to return to this. Unexpected (unrelated)
problems in the last few days...
» On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 08:24PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

>I would clear the play list. Then try just one file. If that does not
>work, can you play that one file with another player?

Loading only one file still does not work as well. The same file can be
used with amarok (which I don't dare to use normally because amarok is
waay too buggy).

Maybe you don't have the rights on those files... Do they belongs to the
same user who launch xmms?

I own all files, I have read and write access to them.
» On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 05:02PM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote:

It just seems to skip anything it can't play for whatever reason.  If
the files are really there (not just there, on the path that xmms is
looking for them), check your audio settings, and the
presence/non-presence of audio daemons, as Aurélien suggested.

I tried all possible audio playing plugins:
OSS driver
Esound Output
Disk Writer
ALSA
These are all marked as 1.2.10.
Thanks for all the suggestions and attention anyway...
At the moment I'm also taking suggestions on other mp3 players and
decent web radio being broadcasted in Real format :-|
Just tried to get mpd to work and failed...
Cheers,
Francisco.

I had this problem with Ubuntu.  XMMS would play ok if started as root but 
not myself.
do a ps -aux and make sure there are no processes running that shouldn't be 
(or have hung).
In my case it was Evolution crashing that had not freed up the audio 
hardware/mixer/whatever so XMMS could use it.


Oh yeah ... Amarok..Buggy??  Best media player on ANY platform that i have 
ever used.  Feel very smug about this piece of Free Software.


Chris
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Re: easy vimdiff like program

2005-07-01 Thread Ralph Katz
On 06/30/2005 11:40 AM, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
> I need to compare two files, in a quite accurate way, i tried vimdiff,
> but it is quite hard to learn.
> Does someone know about a program that makes the same of vimdiff, but
> is easier, and possibly for gnome/kde?
> 
> Thnx
> PAolo


tkdiff and xfdiff4 (part of xffm4 package) are nice.


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Re: Moving Cyrus email from one folder to another

2005-07-01 Thread Caleb Walker
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Lee Braiden wrote:
 > There is a package called imapsync (I think; maybe it's mailutils),
which can
> synchronise mails between imap folders, or move them.  Not sure if you're 

Thank you, I will check this out.

> planning to keep the isSpam folder in IMAP though, or outside of it.  If 
> you're having learnspam scan IMAP folders over the IMAP protocol, I'd love to 
> know how (it would make DBMail much more viable for me).
I am not doing it over imap, rather with Cyrus, the email is stored in a
directory under dot files. (i.e. 1. 2. 3. 4. etc, etc.)  So, I have
sa-learn go out and read those files.  Fairly simple.

Thanks.



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Re: xmms skips all files

2005-07-01 Thread Andre Venter

Sorry, that's www.shoutcast.com


- Original Message - 
From: Andre Venter

To: chrish ; Debian User
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: xmms skips all files


A decent site to have a look at streaming radio stations is
shoucast.com..Real player plays them (as does X Multimedia system).

Typically if XMMS skips files you have a permissions or file system problem.


- Original Message - 
From: chrish

To: Debian User
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: xmms skips all files


On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 09:28 -0300, Francisco Borges wrote:
Sorry I took a few days to return to this. Unexpected (unrelated)
problems in the last few days...
? On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 08:24PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

>I would clear the play list. Then try just one file. If that does not
>work, can you play that one file with another player?

Loading only one file still does not work as well. The same file can be
used with amarok (which I don't dare to use normally because amarok is
waay too buggy).

Maybe you don't have the rights on those files... Do they belongs to the
same user who launch xmms?

I own all files, I have read and write access to them.
? On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 05:02PM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote:

It just seems to skip anything it can't play for whatever reason. If
the files are really there (not just there, on the path that xmms is
looking for them), check your audio settings, and the
presence/non-presence of audio daemons, as Aur?lien suggested.

I tried all possible audio playing plugins:
OSS driver
Esound Output
Disk Writer
ALSA
These are all marked as 1.2.10.
Thanks for all the suggestions and attention anyway...
At the moment I'm also taking suggestions on other mp3 players and
decent web radio being broadcasted in Real format :-|
Just tried to get mpd to work and failed...
Cheers,
Francisco.

I had this problem with Ubuntu. XMMS would play ok if started as root but
not myself.
do a ps -aux and make sure there are no processes running that shouldn't be
(or have hung).
In my case it was Evolution crashing that had not freed up the audio
hardware/mixer/whatever so XMMS could use it.

Oh yeah ... Amarok..Buggy?? Best media player on ANY platform that i have
ever used. Feel very smug about this piece of Free Software.

Chris
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Re: Need help securing mail server: already got hacked.

2005-07-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On 7/1/05, Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:35:49 -0500
> [Note: hacking is what knowledgeable sys-admins do when they can't find
> a program that perfectly meets their need. Cracking is what bad guys do
> to break into your server. Hacking is good, cracking is bad.]

Good luck in your quest to reverse 10 years of media misappropriation
of the term 'hacker', and I hope that the confusion of using the term
hacker with people not in the know (i.e. everyone else) does not
result in too much stigma for yourself.

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Re: what programe like chconfig as in redhat

2005-07-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On 7/1/05, Khanh Cao Van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But I read the man page , there'no no option to list all deamon that
> run at the level 3 at bootime .
> With redhat I could do as chkconfig --list | grep 3:on
> 
> How could I do it in Debian ?

ls /etc/rc3.d

Answer: everything. By default, debian does not differentiate between
runlevels 2-5.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-runlevels

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Re: Changing debian/rules == failure

2005-07-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On 7/1/05, schnitzel meister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I was under the impression that rebuilding a debian package was a
> simple matter of editing the debian/rules file and running debuild.
> 
> It fails. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Ouch. I cannot help you with this specific patch, but I would suggest
that if it appears non-critical, you could remove it from the patches
dir and just do without. I think you are on the right track wrt to
your approach to customisation. Maybe it's worth filing a bug?

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Re: torrents

2005-07-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On 7/1/05, [KS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am wondering why you posted your query on debian-user mailing list in
> the first place? Windows Media Player doesn't support the file or the
> codec and the user posts on debian-user.h, interesting!

It looked to me like one of a series of odd posts to techie lists,
automatically generated for god knows what nefarious purposes.
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Re: debian hosting service

2005-07-01 Thread Adam Majer
fenallen wrote:

> $70 dollars seems a bit steep.
>
I pay less than that much for a server collocation at
http://tera-byte.com  (in Canada)

- Adam


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Re: SATA problems

2005-07-01 Thread Adam Majer
Jim Blake wrote:

> I believe SATA support was included in the kernel from 2.6.10, but even
> when I try to install with a 2.6 kernel and the NetBoot disk, it fails.

SATA should work with the 2.6.8 kernel as well. FWIW, I've moved to SATA
only setup at the beginning of the year. The biggest problem for me was
installing Windows because I had to scavenge a floppy drive from somewhere!

> I think I need to add some drivers, etc to the kernel, but I'm not
> confident (on what is needed *or* how to do it!). I've googled around
> for a couple of days, and everything points in this direction, but I
> need to be sure before I hack round and create a bigger problem than I
> already have.

Boot the 2.6 kernel in installation, after hardware detection go onto
the console and post the output for `lspci -v` and `lsmod`.

- Adam



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help with pppoe-relay

2005-07-01 Thread Maurice O'Regan

Anyone know anything about pppoe-relay ?
I am prepared to pay for some knowledge and assistance.

Maurice


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Re: Sarge Install | From floppy & DVD | Not finding hard drive or wireless

2005-07-01 Thread Adam Majer
David Hart wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Installing for the first time. I have Sarge on DVD, but my machine
>won't boot from them so
>using floppys. Using the boot.img, root.img and cd-drivers.img from the 1st 
>DVD.
>
>Problem 1 - Does not detect my Belkin 802.11g PCI card (F5D7000).
>I will leave this until after install to fix, but it means I have no network
>
>The installer then insists on trying to find a mirror - of course it
>can't with no network.
>
>Problem 2 - In hardware detect it says it is missing a load of files:
>ata_piix
>ide-scsi
>ide-mod
>ide-probe-mod
>ide-generic
>ide-floppy
>
>I then can't partition or install because it "can't find any
>partitionable drives".
>  
>
Your problem is probably related to Problem 1 -> Problem 0, aka no
drivers loaded :) I never booted from a floppy to install Sarge, but
from the file names I'm guessing the only drivers you have installed are
for the CD drivers. These are then suppose to be used to install other
drivers? I'm guessing. I don't know exactly.

>It have a feeling that I need to point the installer to the DVD rather
>than a mirror and it will find these files and install - but I just
>can't see how to do this. I know it is reading from the DVD after
>asking for the driver floppy, so it is def. mounted. Am I missing an
>installation option?
>  
>
Well, did it load the drivers? Because your other problems point that it
cannot find the kernel drivers. You can check that the DVD is mounted in
the console - activate it and the DVD should be mounted (use `mount`
command to check current mounts).

>The machine is a Dell 5000 with SATA HDD on SATA -0, CD-Rom on IDE
>(primary) and DVD writer on IDE (secondary).
>  
>
And you can't get it to boot from the DVD drive? Weird...

Have you tried booting from a minimal CD like netinst?

- Adam


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Re: what programe like chconfig as in redhat

2005-07-01 Thread John Hasler
Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> I'm news for debian and used to chkconfig in redhat to manage deamon
> scripts to startup at boottime or not . Could you please tell me what
> program in debian with the fuction like that ?

Install sysvconfig.
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Re: Cellular Data Service

2005-07-01 Thread Nate Duehr

Hans du Plooy wrote:

On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 00:27 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:

GSM acts like a regular old modem to pcmcia, and you feed it odd dialing 
strings that I found documented online.


Would you mind posting those to the list?

Thanks!


No problem, but I found them through Google, and the work was definitely 
not my own, so I'll give credit where it's due and just post the 
person's website I ultimately ended up basing my scripts on for 
T-Mobile.  Each cellular carrier will be different.


http://www.crispian.org/gc79/

Nate

p.s. I've also noticed that many online forums that discuss the use of 
cell phones with built in modems for data services also have the dialing 
strings for a number of carriers... people using things like 
bluetooth-enabled cell phones that have the modems built in, and then a 
cable to their laptop computers or bluetooth connections.  Search for 
that sort of thing if your not on T-Mobile, as there will probably be a 
website or two more out there that have the dialing information for one 
of those phones (even the Windows people need the info to adequately use 
that type of link).




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Re: ppp addresses and routing table

2005-07-01 Thread Adam Majer
Bernd Prager wrote:

> I'm experiencing some trouble with my DSL setup.
> Every time after reboot my routing table is using my ppp0 P-t-P
> address instead of its inet address.

Which is the correct way of setting routes. Default should go though the
other end of the ppp connection.

>
> $ ifconfig ppp0
> ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  inet
> addr:168.100.249.107  P-t-P:168.100.250.1  Mask:255.255.255.255
>  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1492  Metric:1
>  RX packets:278715 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:280248 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
>  RX bytes:155755125 (148.5 MiB)  TX bytes:67529994 (64.4 MiB)
>
> $ route -e
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window 
> irtt Iface
> 168.100.250.1 *   255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0
> ppp0
> 192.168.2.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0 0 
> 0 eth0
> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0 0 
> 0 eth1
> default 168.100.250.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
> ppp0
>
> I'm not getting any Internet connection by using the P-t-P address.
> Only after I delete PPP0 and default gateway route and change them
> manually to the PPP0 inet address I get the desired connection.

Weird because that is the *correct* way of doing things.


> When I change the routing addresses from 168.100.250.1 to
> 168.100.249.107 I get:
>
> $ route -e
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window 
> irtt Iface
> 249-107.custome *   255.255.255.255 UH0 0 
> 0 ppp0
> 192.168.2.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0 0 
> 0 eth0
> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0 0 
> 0 eth1
> default 249-107.custome 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 
> 0 ppp0
>
> And everything works fine from here.

Except this is not the correct way...

> Is there something with my configuration messed up and I should get a
> proper connection through the P-t-P address?
> Or is there a way to tell my system it should use the external address
> instead?


Are you trying to connect from this machine or some other one off on
eth0 or eth1 network?

- Adam


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content filtering

2005-07-01 Thread Juan Manuel Tato

hi, i'm looking for information about content filtering
using squid.
i'd like to filter porno site for my network.
thanks in advance
manuel

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Re: switch language

2005-07-01 Thread roberto
> --- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 
> >  
> > > > # source ~/.il8n.en
> > > > #
> > > > #
> > > > export LANG=en_us
> > > > #
> > > > unset LANGUAGE
> > > > unset LC_ALL
> > > > unset LC_CTYPE
> > > > unset ENC
> > > > unset XIM
> > > > unset XMODIFIERS
> > 
> > do what you like with the commands ...
> > - make your own script and call it from other scripts
> > - merge with your .bashrc, ~/.bash_profile or /etc/bash*
> 
> i've done the last you sayed, things seems to be all right now except for the 
> fact that 
> when i run for example man i receive:
> 
> ~:$man ls 
> man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
> Reformatting ls(1), please wait...
> 
> 
> and then it starts correctly, is the problem linked to those unset's above?
> cheers


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Re: LILO bug?

2005-07-01 Thread Marty

Alvin Oga wrote:

hi ya marty

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Marty wrote:


Alvin Oga wrote:


... 

>> Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk
> 
> if yoou can boot from /dev/hda ... lilo is working

>- pull out the scsi disk to make sure you are booting off /dev/hda

This requires the user to to be physically present, power down, open the
case and modify the system hardware.  It's unnecessary and may not be possible.


no it does not ...

- you can simulate a missing disk ( at least the missing MBR )
  to see if it boots the other disk

dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda bs=448 count=1


This doesn't address the problem.  Again, the only workaround I know about
is removing the SCSI (or "first disk") to make LILO work correctly.  That
requires the steps I outlined.  Even if there is a better workaround, it
still seems like a bug to put the MBR on the wrong disk.



- if it doesn't boot... you never had raid properly configured anyway


I've never used raid, so I think you are confused about my problem.


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Re: Perl upgrade risks

2005-07-01 Thread Antonio Lobato


Thank you for help.. Ill consider all it.
	But, cause this perl big trouble and some anothers circunstances, 
maybe I can upgrade to sarge at once. I know it will give much work, 
but it economizes more future work.




Thank you!
Tom Lobato


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Re: what programe like chconfig as in redhat

2005-07-01 Thread derek
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 11:30:28AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> > I'm news for debian and used to chkconfig in redhat to manage deamon
> > scripts to startup at boottime or not . Could you please tell me what
> > program in debian with the fuction like that ?
> 
> Install sysvconfig.

or check out /usr/sbin/update-rc.d


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Re: content filtering

2005-07-01 Thread Joseph Haig
--- Juan Manuel Tato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi, i'm looking for information about content filtering
> using squid.
> i'd like to filter porno site for my network.
> thanks in advance
> manuel
> 

If you want something free you can try squidguard (www.squidguard.org),
but I found when I tried it some time ago that there wasn't easy to get
an up to date blacklist, which is essential for what you want.  I use
Optenet (optenet.com), which is a commercial package that runs as a
helper application for Squid.  One advantage of Optenet for you is that
it is a Spanish company, so the text analyser in Spanish is probably as
well developed as the English.

Bye,

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Re: Need help securing mail server: already got hacked.

2005-07-01 Thread Ishwar Rattan
Try the exim mailing list exim-users@exim.org, do switch off
the mail relay for domains other than yours.

-ishwar

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, John Foster wrote:

> I have exim4 using the heavy daemon set up and it runs fine. I am setting it
> up to serve mail for 5 sites (all my own) that I have on a single box using
> Apache2 and as virtual sites. All is working fine . I was advised that I
> should set up a pop3 server in order to allow access from a remote system to
> these mail sites. Again (I used popa3d)  everything worked fine. The problem
> is, I got hacked almost immediately and my mail system was used to send a
> load of spam all over the place. The result is that I have had to shut down
> the servers until I get my system hardened enough to do the job & quit
> getting hijacked by spammers. I have been reading the docs but time is not my
> friend here I need to get this done ASAP so I can get these servers turned
> back on. My ISP will shut me down if I leave the system up in its current
> state. All tips greatly appreciated.
> Thanks!
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authetication

2005-07-01 Thread Jeffrin Jose
when i try to install software using apt i get the message " Not 
Authenticated " what is this... what happened ?


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Re: mouse wheel

2005-07-01 Thread Wackojacko

ok i should read some more documentation, I am sorry.


That's OK we all have to learn :)


But on the other hand i think that dpkg-reconfigure should say me if
it wrote or not the configuration file to disk.


I think this only applies to this file and is as such a known 'bug' or 
'feature' and there is a work around once you know about it !  I'm not sure 
anything is being done about this as Xfree86 is being dropped in favour of 
X.org in the new releases.



PAolo


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Re: 3d accel and agpgart

2005-07-01 Thread Elmer E. Dow
On Friday 01 July 2005 04:43 am, Wackojacko wrote:

> This looks similar to the problem I had recently with X not finding my
> Nvidia module.  Try adding the agpgart module to /etc/modules so it is
> loaded on boot and will be available when X tries to load it.
>
> I'm a relative newbie also so I may be barking up the wrong tree but it
> might be worth a shot.
>
> Wackojacko

Jackpot! 3d acceleration works great! Glxgears is giving me good numbers and 
Tuxracer blasts along.

Many thanks for your suggestion.

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Re: xfree86 on km4m-v m/b (s3virge onboard)

2005-07-01 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 02:35:12AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 10:56:43AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > How do I get X running using the onboard S3virge graphics? I've run
> > dpkg-reconfigure but when I run startx it reports 'no screens
> > found'. This is on a new install of sarge.
> > 
> Hi rick,
> please include the error message of the /var/log/XFree86.log or
> similar files. But remove the uninteresting stuff. look for the EE
> lines.

Switching to the 'vesa' driver solved the problem. It works great. The
specs say the board implements S3Virge but maybe xfree86 is looking for
a specific chip that's not on the board.

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Re: authetication

2005-07-01 Thread Ralph Katz
On 07/01/2005 01:30 PM, Jeffrin Jose wrote:
> when i try to install software using apt i get the message " Not
> Authenticated " what is this... what happened ?
> 

This article may help:

Using the GPG signature checking with apt 0.6
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174


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Re: Installing Yahoo Messenger 6.0 under wine

2005-07-01 Thread [KS]
Ms Linuz wrote:
> 
> I'd got the same problem.
> And I don't want to go further more with that. If wine doesn't run
> winprogram correctly I just leave it and look for alternatives in
> linux world. 

Well, I would go the otherway around, i.e. if something in Linux lacks
some features and a Windows application offers it, then it would be nice
to have it under Wine.

However, right now I'm trying to experiment with a few applications
under Wine of whose alternatives are available in Linux and I already
use them, e.g. Gaim (for YIM), Nvu (for Dreamweaver), kpdf, xpdf,
Acrobat Reader (for Acrobat Reader), etc. My aim here is to try some
popular applications under Wine on Debian. So any help would be highly
appreciated.

Thanks,
/KS


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Re: authetication

2005-07-01 Thread Kent West
Jeffrin Jose wrote:

> when i try to install software using apt i get the message " Not
> Authenticated " what is this... what happened ?
>
It means you need to be root when you install software.

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Re: content filtering

2005-07-01 Thread Lee Braiden
On Friday 01 Jul 2005 17:05, Juan Manuel Tato wrote:
> hi, i'm looking for information about content filtering
> using squid.
> i'd like to filter porno site for my network.

DansGuardian is by far the best solution for this :)

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SATA RAID 1 on Debian Sarge

2005-07-01 Thread Israel Garcia
List, How can I set up my server (Intel D845GVSR Motherboard, 2 SATA Hdd )?
Is there any driver to manage this RAID, or is it a simple Software RAID?

Regards;

Israel



Re: mkinitrd & evms. Chicken and egg?

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Marcum
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 01:54:55PM +0200, Tom Larard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to mount my root partition on /dev/evms/hda1. Currently it is
> mounted on /dev/hda1.  (The reason for wanting to do this is so I can
> use hda[2-10] with evms)
> 
> Mkinitrd correctly probes my root device (as it is now), and notices
> that it is not an evms volume, and hence excludes the evms programs
> from the initrd. It will create an initrd with evms support if the
> root partition is already *already* mounted through evms, but I can't
> do that until I have an initrd with evms support!
> 
> I looked at the ROOT=probe option in the mkinitrd.conf, which seems to
> allow specifying the root device and its type, but I couldn't find any
> examples of what to enter here.
> 
> Is there some way to force mkinitrd to add the evms support? 
> 
Would chroot do it?

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clamav update to 0.86.1 using volatile.debian.net

2005-07-01 Thread Alex Marz
I'm currently a new user of debian and am a little confused as to my
install of ClamAV using http://volatile.debian.net. If one looks at the
following link..

http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile/pool/volatile/main/c/clamav/

It appears that there are updated packages ( 0.86.1 ) for 0.85.1. My
/etc/apt/sources.list looks like this.

hercules:/home/alex/public_html/sasknet# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian sarge main contrib

deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile stable/volatile main

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

As far as i can tell my entry in sources.list is correct but when i run
apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade it indicated there are 0 packages
to be upgraded. Am i jumping the gun here or can someone tell me where I'm
going wrong.


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Re: LILO bug?

2005-07-01 Thread Alvin Oga

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Marty wrote:

> > dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda bs=448 count=1
> 
> This doesn't address the problem.  Again, the only workaround I know about
> is removing the SCSI (or "first disk") to make LILO work correctly.  That
> requires the steps I outlined.  Even if there is a better workaround, it
> still seems like a bug to put the MBR on the wrong disk.

lilo puts the MBR where you told it ...
vi /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/  

that is where it isntalls it

- if you have preveious ran other tools that installs MBRs, than those
  MBR is used instead
- there is an MBR for /dev/hda
- there is an MBR for /dev/hda1
- there is an MBR for /dev/hda2

for each disk
 
> > - if it doesn't boot... you never had raid properly configured anyway
> 
> I've never used raid, so I think you are confused about my problem.

raid or not.. multiple diskss or not .. you can still see if oyu can
boot off the other disk

- its still NOT a lilo bug that you get a warning messages, though it may
  not be what you want it to say

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Harvard + Re: unsubscribe

2005-07-01 Thread Tony Godshall
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Re: LILO bug?

2005-07-01 Thread Marty

Alvin Oga wrote:


lilo puts the MBR where you told it ...
vi /etc/lilo.conf
		boot=/dev/  


that is where it isntalls it


Again, it does not on my systems, under the conditions I described.


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Re: sarge and software patents

2005-07-01 Thread Geoff Thurman
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 08:21:33AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Geoff Thurman wrote:
> 
> >But isn't he right, at the end of the day, to be concerned about
> >software patents?
> >
> Yes.
> 
> >And I would have thought this list was exactly the
> >right place for a discussion of these issues.
> >
> Not so much, no. A better place would be debian-legal
> (http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/).
> 
> > Why is it not?
> >  
> >
> Because this list is for "Support for Debian users who speak English"
> (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/). Political issues are not really
> support issues.
> 
> The general consensus has been that short-lived off-topic threads are
> acceptable as long as they don't stray too far from the interests of the
> list members (and they should be marked "OT" in the subject line).
> Guillaume's original posting was probably considered by most members as
> perfectly acceptable, even raising our conciousness of the issue. But
> when no one responded, he went semi-ballistic, and now the whole thread
> has just become, for lack of a better term, "trollish". His lack of
> grammar/spelling didn't help (see recent "Hackers, Spelling, and
> Grammar?" link on Slashdot
> (http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/30/1532238&tid=215&tid=4)
> for relevant discussion)).
> 
> Again, the occasional off-topic side discussion about software patents
> is probably perfectly acceptable on this list (although it more better
> belongs on debian-legal), Guillaume just needs to learn "how to win
> friends and influence people" rather than bullying them into his way of
> thinking.
> 

Okay, I see what you mean. The only point I would quibble with was the
reference to grammar/spelling: on this list I tend to ignore such
things, especially when the name suggests that English is not the
first language. I must confess I have no former knowledge of Guillaume
Tessier, I don't know whether I'm alone in that. I've had a quick
look at the first few parts of that Slashdot link - it looks
interesting, but too long to look at tonight.

Incidentally, if I seemed to be condoning bad language on the list this
is not what I meant to do, exactly. It isn't that I think bad language
is somehow okay, more that I am so angered by what I perceive to be
going on all around us that I fear swearing should be the least of our
worries. I confess to being prone to the occasional swearword myself
(not openly on list), which probably clouds my judgement. But swearing
on this list is not okay and I didn't mean to imply that it was.

Thank you Kent, and also Adam, for your measured and informative
replies.

Cheers,

Geoff



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Re: LILO bug?

2005-07-01 Thread Alvin Oga

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Marty wrote:

> Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> > lilo puts the MBR where you told it ...
> > vi /etc/lilo.conf
> > boot=/dev/  
> > 
> > that is where it isntalls it
> 
> Again, it does not on my systems, under the conditions I described.

- and what do your boot= line say ...

- how do you "know" that it is doing the right thing or not??

- did you delete the mbr info on /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 ...
  on each partition you are trying to test

- did you look at the contents of the mbr BEFORE and AFTER you
  ran lilo

- did you change the bios boot order

- semi-endless list of debugging

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Iso CD to Iso DVD image

2005-07-01 Thread Mark Panen
Hi

Is there any script floating around to convert the 14 Sarge CD's to 2
DVD's like some other distros ahve ?



Re: clamav update to 0.86.1 using volatile.debian.net

2005-07-01 Thread John Fleming

It appears that there are updated packages ( 0.86.1 ) for 0.85.1. My
/etc/apt/sources.list looks like this.

hercules:/home/alex/public_html/sasknet# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian sarge main contrib

deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile stable/volatile main

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

As far as i can tell my entry in sources.list is correct but when i run
apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade it indicated there are 0 packages
to be upgraded. Am i jumping the gun here or can someone tell me where I'm
going wrong.


I get my ClamAV updates using the apt sources.list with:

deb http://people.debian.org/~sgran/debian sarge main

and it's current with 0.86.1

- John


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Re: LILO bug?

2005-07-01 Thread Marty

Alvin Oga wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Marty wrote:


Alvin Oga wrote:

> lilo puts the MBR where you told it ...
>vi /etc/lilo.conf
> 		boot=/dev/  
> 
> 	that is where it isntalls it


Again, it does not on my systems, under the conditions I described.


- and what do your boot= line say ...


boot=/dev/hda


- how do you "know" that it is doing the right thing or not??


I verified the LILO update to the wrong (SCSI) disk, beyond just
observing that it had been rendered unbootable, if that's what you mean.


- did you delete the mbr info on /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 ...
  on each partition you are trying to test


I'm not trying to test any partitions, and deleting MBRs generally seems
like a bad idea to propose as a debugging procedure.


- did you look at the contents of the mbr BEFORE and AFTER you
  ran lilo


No, but I think the write to the wrong disk takes precedence over
specifics about what data gets written and where.



- did you change the bios boot order


Again, I tried using disk/bios stanzas without success.


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Kernel 2.6.12 borked my udev rules

2005-07-01 Thread Deviant User
At first I thought my udev rules (installed as 
/etc/udev/rules.d/001_my_udev.rules) broke because I
installed additional HAL packages. But after I booted to
kernel 2.6.11 without so much as touching a single config
file or installing an additional package, my udev rules
started working again.

I'm now convinced something in 2.6.12 broke my udev rules.
The following udev rule works with linux 2.6.11 but NOT
with 2.6.12:

BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}="RunDisk", KERNEL="sd?1"
NAME="USB_Flash_Disk"

This allows me to mount a usb thumb drive as
/dev/USB_Flash_Disk. Can somebody tell me what's wrong, if
any, with the rules, and how I could change it to conform
with the new "rules" for linux 2.6.12?

I'm running a mixture of unstable (mostly for Gnome) and
testing packages (the system).


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Re: aptitude synaptic gnome to be removed?

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Wohler
Jason Edson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just did a dist-upgrade on my unstable box

Why would you want to use dist-upgrade on unstable? You aren't
changing distributions.

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Re: LILO bug?

2005-07-01 Thread Alvin Oga


On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Marty wrote:

> > - how do you "know" that it is doing the right thing or not??
> 
> I verified the LILO update to the wrong (SCSI) disk, beyond just
> observing that it had been rendered unbootable, if that's what you mean.

how did you "verify" that lilo wrote to the wrong disk
vs the scsi disk already having the mbr from prev installs

how do you know the "lilo stuff" you see on the screen is coming
from hda  vs sda 

- did you make the look-n-feel different on the different disks
so you know that the mbr you see on the lilo boot screen is
the one corresponding to each different disks

- label theboot kernel differently, explicitly for each
hard disk

- that is a trivial way to see which MBR is being booted

- it's NOT possible, or extreme slim chance, lilo writes to the wrong
  boot=/dev/xxx divice
 
> > - did you delete the mbr info on /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 ...
> >   on each partition you are trying to test
> 
> I'm not trying to test any partitions, and deleting MBRs generally seems
> like a bad idea to propose as a debugging procedure.

than you cannot claim there is abug if you cannot explicitly confirm  it
and duplicate the error

> > - did you look at the contents of the mbr BEFORE and AFTER you
> >   ran lilo

> No, but I think the write to the wrong disk takes precedence over
> specifics about what data gets written and where.

not possible ... more likely that there;s something you forgot or
overlooked ... lilo does NOT write tothe wrong disk ... it does
NOT overwrite anything

- which version of lilo ...
- did you go to the lilo site to download the latest version
that was previously posted ...

> > - did you change the bios boot order
> 
> Again, I tried using disk/bios stanzas without success.

bios boot order has NOTHING to do with "disk stanza" (presumably in lilo)
 
c ya
alvin


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snmp counters reaching their limit!

2005-07-01 Thread Cam
Hi,

I'm monitoring various crap on my networkw/ cacti.  The problem i'm
having is that some of the counters in snmp (specifically
ssRawContexts.0 and ssRawInterrupts.0) have reached the limit of an
unsigned long int (4294967295).  How can i reset this value? 
Apparantely it cannot be done through snmp?  can i do it from the
kernel?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson



Re: Kernel 2.6.12 borked my udev rules

2005-07-01 Thread Adam Mercer
On 02/07/05, Deviant User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> This allows me to mount a usb thumb drive as
> /dev/USB_Flash_Disk. Can somebody tell me what's wrong, if
> any, with the rules, and how I could change it to conform
> with the new "rules" for linux 2.6.12?

With 2.6.12 you need to use udev-058+ for custom rules to work,

http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0505.2/1368.html

Cheers

Adam



Re: LILO bug?

2005-07-01 Thread Marty

Alvin Oga wrote:


On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Marty wrote:


> - how do you "know" that it is doing the right thing or not??

I verified the LILO update to the wrong (SCSI) disk, beyond just
observing that it had been rendered unbootable, if that's what you mean.


how did you "verify" that lilo wrote to the wrong disk
vs the scsi disk already having the mbr from prev installs


In addition to the SCSI disk becoming unbootable -- the SCSI drive LED
flashed when LILO wrote to it; and pulling the SCSI cable (not recommended)
caused the LILO installation to fail attempting to write to the disk, and to
return an error to that effect.

As I mentioned before, the target partition /dev/hda1 subsequently failed to
boot, and removing the SCSI disk from the system bypassed the entire problem.

I just realized I left out an important detail.  At the time I ran LILO
the SCSI disk was the boot drive, and the root partition was /dev/hda1 as
specified in the root parameter on the LILO boot prompt.  This is how I
could get away with unplugging the SCSI drive, in case you wondered.  :-)
I did try booting with a rescue floppy and with the SCSI drive still in the
system but that did not solve the problem.



how do you know the "lilo stuff" you see on the screen is coming
from hda  vs sda 


I don't know offhand how to map the BIOS disk numbers (0x80, 0x81, ...)
to the Linux disk numbers (0x300, 0x301, ...).  That's why I performed
the other tests to verify the actual write to the SCSI disk.



- did you make the look-n-feel different on the different disks
so you know that the mbr you see on the lilo boot screen is
the one corresponding to each different disks


As I pointed out before, I don't get as far as booting.  The target drive
hda still doesn't boot and the SCSI drive stops booting.



- label theboot kernel differently, explicitly for each
hard disk


See above.



- that is a trivial way to see which MBR is being booted

- it's NOT possible, or extreme slim chance, lilo writes to the wrong
  boot=/dev/xxx divice


The impossible seems to be happening.  I'd entertain alternate theories.

 

> - did you delete the mbr info on /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 ...
>   on each partition you are trying to test

I'm not trying to test any partitions, and deleting MBRs generally seems
like a bad idea to propose as a debugging procedure.


than you cannot claim there is abug if you cannot explicitly confirm  it
and duplicate the error


I've seen it many times on different systems, hence the workaround.  I don't 
know
if others can duplicate it or not, hence one of the reasons for posting.




> - did you look at the contents of the mbr BEFORE and AFTER you
>   ran lilo



No, but I think the write to the wrong disk takes precedence over
specifics about what data gets written and where.


not possible ... more likely that there;s something you forgot or
overlooked ... lilo does NOT write tothe wrong disk ... it does
NOT overwrite anything

- which version of lilo ...
- did you go to the lilo site to download the latest version
that was previously posted ...


The last time I hit the problem was a few months ago.  It's possible that
a recent version has fixed the problem, but a quick scan of the changelogs
doesn't seem to indicate that.




> - did you change the bios boot order

Again, I tried using disk/bios stanzas without success.


bios boot order has NOTHING to do with "disk stanza" (presumably in lilo)


I changed the boot drive in the BIOS, if that's what you mean.  That's how
I discovered the problem.

 
c ya

alvin





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Squirrelmail and remote imap

2005-07-01 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
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Hello all,

I have a mail server with qmail + vpopmail + courier-imap installed and
working properly. I have another server as a webserver working fine. I'm
running Squirrelmail on the webserver. I've configured it to connect to the
imap server for all mail related stuff.

When I try to login using Squirrelmail it throws me back to the ERROR page
with message "You must be logged in to access this page."

A manual telnet session from the same webserver works fine.

I don't think this to be the right question but to double check, Are there
any add-on modules required for Squirrelmail to work with remote imap
servers?

Regards,

rrs
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Re: read only root and udev

2005-07-01 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 02:17:15PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> So I apt-get install udev and reboot.
> 
> Things did not go smoothly; it seems my /dev/shm is mounted by
> /etc/rcS.d/S02mountvirtfs but then sometime later it is umounted
> again by something (I can't work out what), leaving me with no
> writable filesystems and no daemons can start.
> 
> Anyone more experienced with udev have any ideas what is going on?

Well I'm not sure exactly what was going wrong, but I have fixed
this by adding the /dev/shm to my fstab and building its filesystem
after mountlocal in rcS.d.

After boot is finished I'm left with multiple bind mounts of my root
filesystem which I don't quite understand, but it all appears to
work now:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]$ mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/root on / type ext2 (ro,noatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nodiratime)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
/dev/root on /dev/.static/dev type ext2 (ro,noatime)
tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
pts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]$ sudo df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs456M  219M  213M  51% /
/dev/root 456M  219M  213M  51% /
/dev/root 456M  219M  213M  51% /dev/.static/dev
tmpfs  10M  420K  9.6M   5% /dev
tmpfs  10M   64K   10M   1% /dev/shm



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Re: How to change driver for NIC

2005-07-01 Thread Carlos Rodrigues

Ugo Bellavance wrote:

Is the driver file in the right place?


Hmmm, its in "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc". It is a strange location, 
but it doesn't seem to stop another vmware related module in that 
directory from loading (of course, I didn't actually went through the 
vmware-tools startup script to check if it does a "insmod 
full_path_to_module"... maybe that's it).


Carlos Rodrigues


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Laptop touchpad clicking twice

2005-07-01 Thread Wayne Sitton
I have Debian Sid installed on my laptop.  Everything works fine except
the touchpad.  when I tap it once it registers a double-click. In the
XFree86 config I have the mouse set to /dev/psaux and the PS/2 protocol.

Where would be the config to look at for this, or how could I fix this?


Wayne


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