disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread Monique Y. Herman
I am a moron.  That is all.

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Re: UT2003/OpenGL/unstable Issues

2004-01-29 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:34:46AM +0800, Ryan Mackay wrote:
> Talk about verbose, my video card is an nVidia GeForce 4 Ti4400 and im
> running a patched version of the latest drivers (fixed an AGP issue).

Just curious... a patched v5328, or a patched v5336?  I'd be interested in
this "patch" in either case, but v5336 was supposedly released to fix "AGP
issues".

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Information regarding CMIP

2004-01-29 Thread Amar




Hi,
 
I would like know if exists any implementation of 
CMIP for Linux? ( even Sco Unix  also ok for me ).
 
I  would be happy if you provide me any 
information regarding the vendors of such implementation.
please respond at the earliest.
 
Thanx in advance
Amar
 


different hard drive size showing

2004-01-29 Thread SEAN KIM



Greetings,
Someone asked me a really challenging question regarding a hard drive 
size. Why there are 2 different sizes showing on a same hard 
drive when someone looks for its hard drive size through its BIOS 
and through its Window Operating System?
 
tnx in advance.
 


Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Dan Lawrence
On 28 Jan 2004, "Bojan Baros" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
linux.debian.user:
> Why isn't there a limitation that will only allow the mails to be
> forwarded to the list if the originating email is subscribed to the
> list?  
(snip)

I read the list on usenet.  I find it is easier for me to follow the
large volume of messages here in a news reader (I prefer Xnews, but
I could use Thunderbird too). 

I can't remember if it was this list or the security list, but one
of them required me to submit my email address to the list server
before I could post to the list through usenet. 

Rejecting mail from unknown users seems like a perfectly reasonable
solution to me.  I do it on the small lists I host at work (under
300 users).  

If (wo)manpwer is the issue, I'd be happy to help with the admin
process.  List admin, please feel free to email me directly to
discuss this. 

-Dan

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Re: Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-29 Thread Dhiraj
Hello,
 Thanks for your reply. I now see some possibility that it might work. 
However, for the problem you are facing, that even when you setup the 
second(slave ?) HDD as the first one in BIOS, that drive ends up as hdb 
instead of hda. That I think is because, Linux ignores the BIOS and 
finds out info about the disks on its own, so it knows that hd0 is not 
the first hard disk but the second one. I think windows 2000 also 
functions like this. So, I need to know whether your hard disk was hda 
or hdb at the time of installation of Debian. If the disk name changes 
will debian still boot or will it refuse to boot ?
I want a separate grub on both hard disks and I will load the second 
grub from the first one when I want to boot an OS on the second disk, I 
will remap hd0 and hd1 to fake the BIOS change. Hope I can fool them ! 
Why don't you too try this out instead of making changes in BIOS 
everytime you want to boot from the second hard disk. Just write map 
(hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0). This should swap your HDD's without 
making changes to the BIOS everytime. Then you load the grub on the 
second disk using chainloader just like we load windows bootloader.
thanks a lot
Dhiraj

Rosenstrauch, David wrote:
If I add entries like (hd1,0) and (hd1,1), will the 
grub on my first disk be able to boot the win2K and Debian on 
the second 
HDD. I don't mind if it won't boot win2K but will atleast 
Debian 3.0r2 
boot ?


Short answer:  yes.  Grub on the first disk should be able to boot either of
the 2 OS's on the second disk.
I just went through this whole issue myself (trying to get 2 drives in my box
both able to be booted) which is how I know.  I set up my second drive as a
fail-safe:  I can always boot off that even if I mess up the first one.  All I
need to do now is go enter the Dell BIOS setup and switch the order of the
drives listed and that switches the machine to boot off the second drive.  In
other words, each drive can function as a stand-alone.  It's a complete
bootable system complete with its own grub installation.
In the above context, by the way, by "boot" I mean "run grub off of".

So you can config the 2 drives the way I have them.  Or you could have grub
only exist on 1 of the drives and always boot (run grub) off of that drive.
From that point on grub completely takes over, and you can instruct it which
drive and sector you want to load the kernel from (e.g., "root (hd0,0)" or
"root (hd1,0)"), which drive and sector contain the root file system (e.g.,
"vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1" or "vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1"), etc.
So bottom line is that grub is completely configurable that way.

FYI - the only significant issue I had when setting it up my way is that when
I switch the order of the drives in the BIOS, I was surprised to find that the
drive that's first to boot winds up always being assigned (hd0) to grub, but
when the kernel finally loads it may turn out that that drive is actually
/dev/hdb.  This confused me for a while till I figured out what was going on,
as I assumed that grub's drive assignment should have matched the kernel's.
Hope this helps.  Email back if you need more clarification.

DR


-Original Message-
From: Dhiraj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installing Debian on second hard disk
Hello,
 My motherboard has two IDE channles. I have  two optical drivers on 
one channel and my HDD on the second.
I have win98SE and Red Hat 7.2 on my current HDD. I am 
planning to buy a 
second HDD and install win 2000 and Debian on it. When 
installing Debian 
3.0r2 and win 2000, I would like to take out my first hard 
disk and put 
in the blank second one. This is because I am paranoid about 
something 
breaking the original hard disk(I spent a lot of time making 
many things 
work and installing stuff on my RHL). I fear that if not 
Debian, atleast 
win 2K will destroy my first hard disk somehow.
Now, when I put in the second hard disk and the first is out, 
the second 
 one will become /dev/hda but when I re-insert the first one 
as master, 
the second one will become /dev/hdb. I have grub as my loader on the 
first hard disk. If I add entries like (hd1,0) and (hd1,1), will the 
grub on my first disk be able to boot the win2K and Debian on 
the second 
HDD. I don't mind if it won't boot win2K but will atleast 
Debian 3.0r2 
boot ? Or is it that since I installed on /dev/hda and now I 
put it in 
/dev/hdb the kernel will refuse to boot since it had hard 
references to 
/dev/hda ?
If in the grub on the older disk I write map (hd0) (hd1) and 
map (hd1) 
(hd0) and then load grub again on the second disk(using 
chainloader) as 
another boot loader will it work. Will Debian and W2K be fooled into 
believing that they are on the first disk or do they ignore 
the bios and 
check out the HDD's on their own ?
thanks a lot
Dhiraj


==
This message is fo

Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC

2004-01-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Nano Nano wrote:
(2) The oil thing.  Yeah, there's some of that.  But do me a favor and 
separate out (1) from this in your rhetoric.  
Not my rhetoric but it is a common enough one that people need to address 
it.

The best thing you can do about (2) is change cars, the the oil 
companies will become other kinds of companies.  Arabs didn't used 
to be important 100 years ago.  It will be that way again.
Hard to change cards any more.  :P

My concept of "local" and "nation" are changing.  I'm pretty sure we're
not going to see eye-to-eye on this one.

   So you believe that any time any nation has a problem with out we 
(meaning your nation) does something it is perfectly OK for them to invade?

What are you, new?
No, there was a point there if you had cared to engage your brain for 
more than a few seconds to scratch your nuts.  The concepts seem to be quite 
clear.  If Mike did not believe that then the concepts of local and nation is 
defined.  IE, Our nation clearly has power of what's within its borders (local 
to it) and obviously if Mike didn't like other nations meddling in his nations 
crap then they would feel the same way which provides a basis for the concept 
of nation.

From that it is easy to define policy when it comes to certain matters. 
A nation can influence external problems by governing what it controls without 
also going out messing in other nation's crap.  To do the latter invites the 
same to be done to it.  And if we don't want people messing with the US they 
why the hell do we put up with the US messing with other nations.  It's called 
a double-standard, really pissy things.

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Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote:
Actually, the most daunting thing about this list is the sheer volume
of mail involved.
Do you even grasp the irony of this statement?  If volume is a problem 
then you'd think reducing the volume by cutting out the cruft of non-list spam 
and bogus mailings of false virus reports would be a good thing.

This is so their mailbox doesn't get clogged.  This, too, is a non-issue 
since there are always digests.

Which will explode a Hotmail box just as fast on a high-traffic day,
it's just a massive timebomb that blindsides you, too.
Paul, you intentinally being obtuse.  Later in the same message you 
snipped the following:

"...or people who don't want their mail clogged there's digests.  If they want 
no mail there's vacation.  If the list software does not have those options 
then it is broken and should be replaced."

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Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC

2004-01-29 Thread Nano Nano
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:43:56AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> invites the same to be done to it.  And if we don't want people messing 
> with the US they why the hell do we put up with the US messing with other 
> nations.  It's called a double-standard, really pissy things.

http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/07/isolationism.html

Definition of Isolationism

   1. involvement without commitment - "advantages without obligations"
   2. no permanent, entanglinq alliances
   3. keep U.S. sovereign, free, at peace
   4. emphasis on legalism, not force
  * a "law-bound" world of Great Powers keeping order
   5. continue the Open Door concept

I watch the History channel and C-Span when I'm not scratching my balls.


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Re: stopping exim4 from hanging on startup with no network

2004-01-29 Thread Clive Menzies
On (29/01/04 00:32), Micha Feigin wrote:
> I have exim4 setup on a laptop, thus the network isn't always available
> when the system starts up.
> The problem is that when the network isn't found it hangs for about a
> minute before it gives up and lets the boot process continue which is
> very annoying. I think it is hanging on trying to connect to the
> smarthost but I'm not sure.
> Any way to tell it to do that in the background, avoid the check on
> startup or give up faster?
Hi Micha

Is it only when searching for the network?  Since upgrading to exim4, I
experience a long delay during "starting MTA" in the boot sequence.
This is on a desktop permanently connected with a manually assigned IP
address.

It's a minor irritation, because reboots are infrequent but on a laptop,
it must be a "pain in the *ss"

Regards

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How to install HP 1010 in linux

2004-01-29 Thread J.S.Sahambi
Recently I purchased a HP 1010 laser printer with *only* USB interface. 
I would like to now how to install it in Redhat 6.0. I would be greatful 
if I can get some url which could be helpful.

Thanking  in advance
JSS
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RE: Mailbox problem... messgae too large

2004-01-29 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Ian Perry wrote:

> Thanks Brian.
>
> This works fine for all other accounts except the one in question.
> I have no doubt I will need a linux solution in the future.
>
> The session looks like this
>
> mserver:~# telnet localhost 110
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> +OK POP3 localhost v7.59 server ready
> user XX
> +OK User name accepted, password please
> pass YY
>
> (comment:  there is a pause here of approx 30 seconds)
>
> -ERR Can't get lock.  Mailbox in use
>
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> mserver:~#
>
>
> I solved the problem by another roundabout method
>
> Create dummy account on server
> Copy file to dummy account (in this case it was mailman)
> Go to Windows machine
> Log in using imap and move all OTHER messages to local mailbox on windows
> machine
> Delete mailbox from server
> Log in using imap and move messages back.
> Copy dummy mailbox to real mailbox
> Get client to receive mail.
>
> PS:
> After the telnet session... what's the command to leave pop3 ?
>
Seems it's solved, but if your mailbox (thus the file
/var/spool/mail/X) is in use, check the processes which are using it:
fuser -av /var/spool/mail/XX

and kill each process (or close it as it should).

Greetz,
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Re: How to install HP 1010 in linux

2004-01-29 Thread Nano Nano
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 02:36:04PM +, J.S.Sahambi wrote:
> Recently I purchased a HP 1010 laser printer with *only* USB interface. 
> I would like to now how to install it in Redhat 6.0. I would be greatful 
> if I can get some url which could be helpful.

http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1010

It's all good


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BIND DNS

2004-01-29 Thread Brian C
Hi, 

I have a single machine running BIND and Apache. I've never used either 
before. I've just upgraded this box from stable to testing. I have never 
been able to get the web site to show up using its domain name. I can type 
my static IP address into a web browser and it will show up, and I just 
noticed tonight that I can type in nameofmachine.domainname.org and the web 
site will show up. BUT, if I just type www.domainname.org or domainname.org 
then I get NOTHING. 

Is it not possible for one and the same machine to be the primary DNS server 
of the website it hopes to serve for? Is this a problem with my domain name 
registrar? (I've been to their site and told them my primary dns is 
nameofmachine.domainname.org and I picked some free service to be the 
secondary dns. This was all months ago.) 

Anyone have suggestions? I'm uncertain which config files would be helpful 
and wonder how smart it is to post such files, containing my IP address, to 
a big archived list like this. Thanks for any guidance. I appreciate being 
CC'd. 

Brian

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Re: BIND DNS

2004-01-29 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Brian C wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a single machine running BIND and Apache. I've never used either
> before. I've just upgraded this box from stable to testing. I have never
> been able to get the web site to show up using its domain name. I can type
> my static IP address into a web browser and it will show up, and I just
> noticed tonight that I can type in nameofmachine.domainname.org and the web
> site will show up. BUT, if I just type www.domainname.org or domainname.org
> then I get NOTHING.
>
> Is it not possible for one and the same machine to be the primary DNS server
> of the website it hopes to serve for? Is this a problem with my domain name
> registrar? (I've been to their site and told them my primary dns is
> nameofmachine.domainname.org and I picked some free service to be the
> secondary dns. This was all months ago.)
>
> Anyone have suggestions? I'm uncertain which config files would be helpful
> and wonder how smart it is to post such files, containing my IP address, to
> a big archived list like this. Thanks for any guidance. I appreciate being
> CC'd.
>
you need to edit the zone files. If I am not mistaken, those files are in
/etc/bind/ . I assume you have edited named.conf and added something like:
// domainname.org naam -> adres
 zone "domainname.org" {
 type master;
 file "/etc/bind/db.domainname";
 };

// domainname.org adres -> naam
 zone "ZZZ.YYY.XXX.in-addr.arpa" {
 type master;
 file "/etc/bind/db.domainname-rev";
 };

where your IP is XXX.YYY.ZZZ.PPP . Then make db.domainname, for example:
; BIND data file for domainname.org

$TTL86400
@   IN  SOA ns.domainname.org.  root.domainname.org. (
2003021702  ; volgnummer
10800   ; Refresh
3600; Retry
360 ; Expire
86400   )   ; Default TTL
IN  NS  ns1.domainname.org.
IN  A   XXX.YYY.ZZZ.PPP
www IN  A   XXX.YYY.ZZZ.PPP
ns  IN  A   XXX.YYY.ZZZ.PPP
ns1 IN  A   XXX.YYY.ZZZ.PPP
ns2 IN  A   XXX.YYY.ZZZ.PPP


and the db.domainname-rev:
; BIND data file for domainname.org

$TTL86400
@   IN  SOA ns.domainname.org.  root.domainname.org. (
2002030102  ; volgnummer
10800   ; Refresh
3600; Retry
360 ; Expire
86400   )   ; Default TTL
IN  NS  ns.domainname.org.
PPP IN  PTR domainname.org.

replace PPP with the corresponding value of your IP.

Haven't worked with BIND for a while now, but this is the idea. Consult
the docs for more information.


Greetz,
Sebas

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Re: No such handler: db2

2004-01-29 Thread Thomas Lundqvist
Ivan wrote:
> Hi everyone, I've been using phpwiki (the name should tell you most of
> what it does) for a while.  I didn't touch my wiki for a while, and when
> I tried to access it again I got a "No such handler: db2" error.  If I

I had the same problem. I changed to db4 instead:

 change db2 to db4 in /etc/phpwiki/index.php

 cd /var/lib/phpwiki
 mv phpwiki_pagedb.db2 phpwiki_pagedb.db4
 db4.1_upgrade phpwiki_pagedb.db4

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Re: BIND DNS

2004-01-29 Thread Todd Pytel
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:54:39 -0800
"Brian C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a single machine running BIND and Apache. I've never used
> either before. I've just upgraded this box from stable to testing. I
> have never been able to get the web site to show up using its domain
> name. I can type my static IP address into a web browser and it will
> show up, and I just noticed tonight that I can type in
> nameofmachine.domainname.org and the web site will show up. BUT, if I
> just type www.domainname.org or domainname.org then I get NOTHING. 

Do you have CNAME's for www.domainname.org and domainname.org in your
forward zone file? 

> Is it not possible for one and the same machine to be the primary DNS
> server of the website it hopes to serve for?

It's perfectly possible.

> Is this a problem with my domain name registrar? (I've been to their
> site and told them my primary dns is nameofmachine.domainname.org and
> I picked some free service to be the secondary dns. This was all
> months ago.) 

No, it's a problem with your BIND configuration.

> Anyone have suggestions? I'm uncertain which config files would be
> helpful and wonder how smart it is to post such files, containing my
> IP address, to a big archived list like this. Thanks for any guidance.
> I appreciate being CC'd. 

Have you read the BIND Administrator's Manual? Do you understand the
structure of a zone file, and how CNAME's should resolve to A records?
Basically, what homework have you done? A public BIND server is not
something you should run if you don't understand it.

I'd be happy to look at your zone files and see if anything is obviously
wrong. But the phrasing of your questions implies that you're missing
out on some key concepts of how DNS and BIND work. I'd recommend reading
the DNS/BIND section in O'Reilly's TCP/IP Network Administration for a
good introduction.

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Re: Installing Debian Unstable From Scratch

2004-01-29 Thread Chavdar Videff
Thank you guys for all the hints.
I guess I put them right because now it started downloading files.
Best regards,

Chavdar


On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:43, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 11:16:04AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 04:35:11PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote:
> > > pretty simple. Your start is good :). Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and
> > > replace woody or testing to sarge or unstable, or better, add an
> > > unstable line to it, like:
> > >
> > > deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > > deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
> > > deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free
> >
> > I was wondering the other day if you just want to run unstable can you
> > just use one deb line for unstable?  Or do you need all three?
>
> You just need the one. The other two are convenient for mixing
> distributions (advanced topic)
>
> --
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sound-juicer won't run in sarge

2004-01-29 Thread Lex Hider
when I try to run sound-juicer in sarge it comes up
with an empty window, takes up all the cpu cycles and
doesn't do anything else.

Help!

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Re: Another Dumb Question About deb.conf

2004-01-29 Thread Katipo
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:31:55 +0100
John Gilger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been searching through the Debian docs and can't find anything that 
> tells me what deb.conf is for or how to modify it. Can anyone explaint 
> it, please?
> 
> TIA
> 
Hello John,

Take the fullstop (period) out, turn it into all one word, as in debconf, and you 
should have a more successful search.
Try 'man debconf' in a terminal also, for a further source of info.
Regards,

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BIND 9 with DHCP-DNS and PPPD Demand Dial

2004-01-29 Thread Peter A. Cole
Hi there,

I'm currently running Debian Woody 3.0 r1 on my home Internet gateway box,
and I've just removed DNSMasq and put BIND 9 in place instead.

This was working fine, DNS lookups are happy, the other PC's can surf the
net and all that with correct name resolution and local name resolution is
authoritative and doesn't cause the modem to dial to do a DNS lookup to my
ISP's DNS servers.

However, I installed the dhcp-dns package and made a modification that I
found somewhere on the net to work with BIND 9. The fix was replacing a
variable in the script for BIND 8 with rndc reload or something to that
effect.

Now, after doing this, it dials of its own accord with no other PC's turned
on whatsoever, and a tcpdump shows the address 10.64.64.64 (ppp0 interface
IP address before being assigned one by my ISP) performing a DNS lookup to
the ISP's DNS servers.

Any ideas why this may be? I'm probably doing something stupid, but I'm not
sure what's going on and hopefully someone out there has experienced this
previously.

Oh, and I have pppd active filters in place to restrict what causes it to
dial and the only things that will are ports 25, 53, 80, 110, and 8080.

And, if I remove port 53 from the active filters, then it never dials
because the client PC's have to perform DNS lookups before they send any
other traffic such as http or pop3 requests etc...

Any ideas?

Pete


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Need help with ALSA problem

2004-01-29 Thread Bjorn Johansson

Hello!

I'm running Debian woody + a 2.6 kernel and I'm experiencing problems with 
the sound. If I do:
mpg123 -o alsa song.mp3 the sound sounds very bad. It's a little hard to 
explain, but it sounds like you have increased the bass for 500% and the 
speakers gives a very noisy output. I guess the problem "could" be the sound 
server. I've tried Jack, but it seems that the programs are not using it.

I have a Sound Blaster Live 5.1.


Björn Johansson


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Few Questions...

2004-01-29 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
Hello Debian User,

Q1:
I am using GNOME and Debian woody updated from unstable distro. When I
right click on the date and time (displayed at the right-top of the
GNOME) I got error:

"Failed to locate a program for configuring the date and time. Perhaps
none is installed?"

What kind of program should I install? Because my computer date is more
advance 1 day...


Q2:
I try install GAIM-gnome. At the unstable ver, it wont allow me to
install because there is unresolve dependency taht has not been fixed. 
I change my apt to get stable ver and install GAIM-gnome allong with its
dependencies, installation completed without error. But when I run
"gnome_applet" from terminal, I got this error:

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
** WARNING **: Cannot activate a panel object
** WARNING **: Cannot start CORBA 
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Is there any way I can use/recompile propper GAIM? What alternative I
have except GAIM (for msn, yahoo and ICQ together)


Q3:
I got an Ricoh SCSI CD-RW, old version. The 'discover' program
succesfully detect the hardware and load the propper modules for it. But
in GNOME, any cd (cd audio or files) wont auto-load even I instaled
software for auto mounting (discover)

What should I do to make my scsi cdrw auto load?


Thanks,

Phillip.


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Re: script to list installed packages

2004-01-29 Thread Nick Hastings
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040129 15:24]:
> 
> 
> Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> >On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:27:11AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>I know that somewhere there is a command to list all installed packages 
> >
> >
> >Perhaps "dpkg --get-selections" would be a good starting point?

I'd recommend that too.

> Doh!
>  I completely forgot about dpkg, I'm so used to apt.
> This seems great for the purposes of the script. Running that returns 
> 480 package names, same as how many synaptic says are installed. I'm 
> going to write a script up, test and rework it, then post it here for 
> feedback. Any other ideas are welcome in the meantime.

Careful, dpkg --get-selections doesn't always list only installed
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dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | cut -f1

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Re: Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-29 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Both Debian and Win2k will boot from a 2nd disk, but the difference is
this:

Debian can be installed to any drive, but if Debian is installed to hda
and then you later move that drive to hdb, you'll need to change the
/etc/fstab entry for the root partition from hda to hdb. BIOS swapping
or remapping in Grub won't work because the kernel ignores these once it
takes over on the boot.

Win2k can't be installed (directly and completely) to any drive other
than hda, but once you do that, that drive can then be moved to the hdb
position and then Win2k will boot from that position if you swap the
drives in the BIOS or with Grub. 

Tom


Dhiraj wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>   Thanks for your reply. I now see some possibility that it might work.
> However, for the problem you are facing, that even when you setup the
> second(slave ?) HDD as the first one in BIOS, that drive ends up as hdb
> instead of hda. That I think is because, Linux ignores the BIOS and
> finds out info about the disks on its own, so it knows that hd0 is not
> the first hard disk but the second one. I think windows 2000 also
> functions like this. So, I need to know whether your hard disk was hda
> or hdb at the time of installation of Debian. If the disk name changes
> will debian still boot or will it refuse to boot ?
> I want a separate grub on both hard disks and I will load the second
> grub from the first one when I want to boot an OS on the second disk, I
> will remap hd0 and hd1 to fake the BIOS change. Hope I can fool them !
> Why don't you too try this out instead of making changes in BIOS
> everytime you want to boot from the second hard disk. Just write map
> (hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0). This should swap your HDD's without
> making changes to the BIOS everytime. Then you load the grub on the
> second disk using chainloader just like we load windows bootloader.
> thanks a lot
> Dhiraj
> 
> Rosenstrauch, David wrote:
> >>If I add entries like (hd1,0) and (hd1,1), will the
> >>grub on my first disk be able to boot the win2K and Debian on
> >>the second
> >>HDD. I don't mind if it won't boot win2K but will atleast
> >>Debian 3.0r2
> >>boot ?
> >
> >
> > Short answer:  yes.  Grub on the first disk should be able to boot either of
> > the 2 OS's on the second disk.
> >
> >
> > I just went through this whole issue myself (trying to get 2 drives in my box
> > both able to be booted) which is how I know.  I set up my second drive as a
> > fail-safe:  I can always boot off that even if I mess up the first one.  All I
> > need to do now is go enter the Dell BIOS setup and switch the order of the
> > drives listed and that switches the machine to boot off the second drive.  In
> > other words, each drive can function as a stand-alone.  It's a complete
> > bootable system complete with its own grub installation.
> >
> > In the above context, by the way, by "boot" I mean "run grub off of".
> >
> > So you can config the 2 drives the way I have them.  Or you could have grub
> > only exist on 1 of the drives and always boot (run grub) off of that drive.
> > From that point on grub completely takes over, and you can instruct it which
> > drive and sector you want to load the kernel from (e.g., "root (hd0,0)" or
> > "root (hd1,0)"), which drive and sector contain the root file system (e.g.,
> > "vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1" or "vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1"), etc.
> >
> > So bottom line is that grub is completely configurable that way.
> >
> >
> > FYI - the only significant issue I had when setting it up my way is that when
> > I switch the order of the drives in the BIOS, I was surprised to find that the
> > drive that's first to boot winds up always being assigned (hd0) to grub, but
> > when the kernel finally loads it may turn out that that drive is actually
> > /dev/hdb.  This confused me for a while till I figured out what was going on,
> > as I assumed that grub's drive assignment should have matched the kernel's.
> >
> > Hope this helps.  Email back if you need more clarification.
> >
> >
> > DR
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Dhiraj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:18 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Installing Debian on second hard disk
> >>
> >>
> >>Hello,
> >>  My motherboard has two IDE channles. I have  two optical drivers on
> >>one channel and my HDD on the second.
> >>I have win98SE and Red Hat 7.2 on my current HDD. I am
> >>planning to buy a
> >>second HDD and install win 2000 and Debian on it. When
> >>installing Debian
> >>3.0r2 and win 2000, I would like to take out my first hard
> >>disk and put
> >>in the blank second one. This is because I am paranoid about
> >>something
> >>breaking the original hard disk(I spent a lot of time making
> >>many things
> >>work and installing stuff on my RHL). I fear that if not
> >>Debian, atleast
> >>win 2K will destroy my first hard disk somehow.
> >>Now, when I put in the second hard disk and the first is out,
> >>the second
> >>  one will become /

Re: SATA + debian

2004-01-29 Thread David Purton
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 04:13:18PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote:
> David Purton wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm looking at purchasing a funky shuttle xpc SB62G2.
> >
> >Amongst other things this box supports Serial ATA drives.
> >
> >Are there likely to be any troubles installing debian on a box with a
> >SATA hard drive?
> >
> >The chipsets are:
> >North Bridge: i865G
> >South Bridge: iCH5-R
> >
> >Can anyone point me to some good documentation relating to SATA and
> >linux?
> 
>   not sure what R in ICH5-R means (I have intel D865-PERL motherboard 
> with ICH5, at least I think it's ICH5 and SATA works)

maybe raid?  Apparently it supports onboard raid(0) - though hopefully
it will function as an ordinary iCH5 with only one disk.

> 
>   you need fairly recent kernel (2.4.22 or something like that). Note 
> that if you are using HD that's above 130GB you might need even newer 
> kernel.
> 
>   I use 2.4.21-ac4 with libata5 patches (ac4 for SATA, libata5 for 
> >130GB support)
> 
>   SATA disks can be seen as ide of scsi, I have only had success with 
> scsi (kernel config CONFIG_SCSI_ATA_PIIX=y), otherwise the syustem 
> freezes right after the disks are detected
> 
>   erik
> 
> 

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Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-29 Thread Richard Hoskins
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2004-01-29, Richard Hoskins penned:
>> Stephen Rueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Conclusion: Stop using low level tools if you can't handle them and
>>> don't complain about them if you don't understand them. Get yourself
>>> a proper package management frontend like dselect or aptitude.
>>
>> I wasn't complaining.
>
> What part of the phrase "dependency hell" doesn't imply complaint?

What part of it does?  It's a common enough humorous idiom for
dependency problems.

Asking questions about and discussing a problem with something does
not constitute complaining about it, any more than using a tool that
hides the problem from a user makes the problem go away.

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Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-29 Thread Richard Hoskins
Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote:
>> Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > RPM == DEB are of nearly equal capacity. It is the Packaging that
>> > Debian Uses and the Proper dependency checking it does.
>> 
>> Yes.  Whatever.  
>
> Flippancy doesn't make people more inclined to help you in future...

Yes. That was rude of me.  I apologize.  

>
>> If package A needs package B, and package B needs package A, why in
>> the world are they two separate packages?
>> 
>> But thanks to you and everyone else who pointed me to the solution.
>
> Perhaps they are maintained by seperate people, and seperate uploads
> / version hikes etc. are convenient.

Well, that makes sense.  It's unfortunate that the development process
could introduce bugs for the convenience of developers, but it's
inevitable, I guess, and probably the lesser of evils.

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Re: Kernel 2.6: bootup errors not logged?

2004-01-29 Thread Stef
Kristian Niemi mentioned :
=> They're not in /var/log/boot.
=> I don't believe it's "unresolved symbol" that is printed on the screen, 
=> but not sure either.

You know what I mean :) 
The message isn't the same in 2.6 kernel 

=> Pretty sure the errors have something to do with modules from previous 
=> kernel trying to load.
=> 
=> Tried to grep FATAL in all logs (in /var/log), but that didn't return 
=> anything, so I assume it's not there; i.e. those errors aren't logged at 
=> all?

Now that you mention it like this, I remember quite a few modules 
that changed, and might have given that exact message at boot time.
Check in /etc/modules for any old modules that 
aren't working anymore, and change them in that file.
Otherwise, just run modconf. I think modconf works with 
.ko modules nowadays.

Cheers
Stef


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Getting Firewire working

2004-01-29 Thread Ben Edwards
I am running Debian (2.4.18-bf2.4) with a pyro firewire card.  lspci
comes back with:-

02:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 IEEE-1394
Controller (Link)

With this I wish to use a Lacie 60GB firewire drive.

Could someone please point me in the correct direction as to how to do
this.

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Re: sound weirdness

2004-01-29 Thread Andrew Schulman
> What might cause xmms to go from audibly playing a song to seemingly
> playing a song (progress bar moving, lines bouncing up and down as the
> song plays) without producing any actual sound?
> 
> I was fiddling with installing/deinstalling alsa, esd, and other fun
> toys at the time, so I'm not exactly sure what I did.  It seems like
> alsa "shouldn't" affect the situation, as I never specified any sound
> modules for it, and as near as I can tell, esd's only effect is to cause
> xmms to squawk that /dev/dsp is busy.
> 
> This is on a brand spanking new debian install -- used a netinstall cd
> and upgraded to unstable from there.

Two possiblities come to mind:

- The standard advice is to open KMix and make sure you don't have 
whatever channel xmms uses turned all the way down.

- You don't say if you're running KDE, but on my KDE box I have a choice 
at any time between aRts and non-aRts sound.  Usually I leave aRts on, 
and then I get sound from my KDE apps.  But if I want sound from a non-
aRts app, I have to go into the Control Center and turn aRts off (Sound 
& Multimedia -> Sound System -> aRts -> Start aRts sound server on KDE 
startup).  It's pretty annoying, but there you have it.

Good luck,
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Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread Andrew Schulman
> I am a moron.  That is all.

Ah well.


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Re: Mail Delivery System

2004-01-29 Thread Sandra Bastians
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Re: Bug#230121: ITP: metalog -- a modern replacement for syslogd and klogd

2004-01-29 Thread Florian Attenberger
Adam Byrtek wrote:

- unmaintained
I'll try to maintain it better then the previous maintainer...
I'm a user of debian unstable on the desktop.
I'm glad to see this, I was slightly confused that one day i saw this
package removed, checked bug reports and didn't find anything reasonable
about the 'why'.
The reason why I tried this one at all was that gentoo describes it as
fastest. Reason I kept it was that I liked the default log file naming
scheme of metalog better than default syslog style.
I guess that behaviour could be replicated with syslog(-ng), but I don't
really want to bother doing that.
Cheers,

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Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread Kent West
Monique Y. Herman originally wrote:

What might cause xmms to go from audibly playing a song to seemingly
playing a song (progress bar moving, lines bouncing up and down as the
song plays) without producing any actual sound?


Then she said to disregard that post, and wrote:

I am a moron.  That is all.

 

But in what way? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Ssh hangs

2004-01-29 Thread Brent Zeiben
Hi,

I've been having problems ssh'ing into one of my debian "woody" 3.0r2
boxes.   I can ssh into the box and move around somewhat but if I do a
long listing like ls -l on /usr/lib or bring up a top in a ssh window
the ssh connection seems to hang and won't free itself.  Some times if I
create another ssh connection to the box the previous one will give me
back a prompt.  But it seems after a bit of time I'll have a ssh
connection hang.  Other debian distro boxes seem to have no problem just
wondering why this one would give me trouble.

I previously had RH8.0 on this box and had no problems with ssh.

Not quite sure what could be causing the problem?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Brent


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Evolution error

2004-01-29 Thread Darrell
I have Debian running great in Damn Small Linux and see an error message
in the terminal-evolution-summary _WARNING**message failed:403
forbidden.  I ma running fluxbox as window manager but did not install
the full GNOME desktop. Could it be that the errors are because I did
not install all of GNOME- Desktop and Control Panel?

Darrell


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Re: UT2003/OpenGL/unstable Issues

2004-01-29 Thread Ryan Mackay
Sometime near Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 11:57:20PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> Just curious... a patched v5328, or a patched v5336?  I'd be interested in
> this "patch" in either case, but v5336 was supposedly released to fix "AGP
> issues".
 
I aint to sure, i renamed the file and it aint on ma comp atm so yeah
:\. It would probably be the one patched to fix those AGP issues, i
would have downloaded it about 1 1/2-2 weeks ago from a non nVidia site.
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Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC

2004-01-29 Thread Mike M
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:09:57PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Mike M wrote:
> >I am not going to defend .gov's oil policy.  My point is there has to be
> >an oil policy.  You can't disengage and think things will just turn out
> >alright.
> 
> Why does there have to be one that includes invasion?

I don't know.
> 
> >They are in front of the line.  My vote is all of the above.  
> 
> Even if, by and large, they are ignorant?  Sure hope you didnt buy Nike 
> a few years back.

See how hard it is to disengage?  Things are just too connected.  So if
you stopped buying Nike to protest crappy working conditions of their
suppliers then you help promote their unemployment.  Damned if you do
and damned if you don't.  You can't say "I quit". 

So if the world hates the US, then we ask why, and we listen, and we
think, and then we act.  Disengagement is impossible so don't use it as
a rebuttal to some poll indicated the popularity of US government.
> 
> >There's blood on all their hands. Some more than others. A lot of people
> >each with a speck of blood on their hands or a few with it dripping from
> >their's, regardless, the crime is done.
> 
> But the question is, what is the appropriate response by the government?

What is the appropriate response of the people in the US who _can_ control their
government?
> 
> >Who's Bob?  I'm Mike.
> 
> Bob Barker.

Oh. Him. Game show host. I didn't ask the price of anything. :-)
> 
> >My concept of "local" and "nation" are changing.  I'm pretty sure we're
> >not going to see eye-to-eye on this one.
> 
> So you believe that any time any nation has a problem with out we 
> (meaning your nation) does something it is perfectly OK for them to invade?

Quite to the contrary.  Phones and Intenet make the entire US seem like
one big city.  I've talked to folks all over the world for business since the
mid-90's.

It's never perfectly OK to invade. It's the worst course of possible. It's 
against everything Sun-Tzu
teaches.  I would like to have US leaders review the master's work and
be required to take a quiz on it.

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Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-29 Thread Adam Aube
On Thursday 29 January 2004 12:47 am, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 08:50:38PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote:
> > Migrating them to a new OS won't help - only education will.
>
> No, but it'll likely go a long way in limiting damage if they're not
> root.

It may limit the damage - but it will not completely alleviate the 
problem. For example, imagine a technically clueless user receives a 
message similar to this:

"Check out this great game! It requires root access to install, though, so 
when prompted, enter your root password to install the game!"

If a user will open a random zip file they received in their email and run 
its contents, they will certainly enter their root password when prompted 
to do so.

Adam


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Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC

2004-01-29 Thread Mike M
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 01:04:43AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:43:56AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > invites the same to be done to it.  And if we don't want people messing 
> > with the US they why the hell do we put up with the US messing with other 
> > nations.  It's called a double-standard, really pissy things.
> 
> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/07/isolationism.html
> 
> Definition of Isolationism
> 
>1. involvement without commitment - "advantages without obligations"

Impossible.

>2. no permanent, entanglinq alliances

Impossible.

>3. keep U.S. sovereign, free, at peace


Not unique to isolationism.

>4. emphasis on legalism, not force
>   * a "law-bound" world of Great Powers keeping order

How do you keep order and maintain your isolated position?

>5. continue the Open Door concept

Isolated with an Open Door confuses me.  
> 
> I watch the History channel and C-Span when I'm not scratching my balls.

Stay with History and CS/CS2.

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Re: Few Questions...

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Miller
>"Failed to locate a program for configuring the date
>and time. Perhaps none is installed?"
>
>What kind of program should I install?
Maybe ntp-simple would do it.

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Re: Hi

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Re: different hard drive size showing

2004-01-29 Thread Adam Aube
On Thursday 29 January 2004 12:57 am, SEAN KIM wrote:
> Someone asked me a really challenging question regarding a hard drive
> size. Why there are 2 different sizes showing on a same hard drive when
> someone looks for its hard drive size through its BIOS and through its
> Window Operating System?

(Odd question to be asking on a Debian list)

I can think of a few possibilities:

1) Unformatted vs formatted size
2) k=1000 vs k=1024 (and M=1000^2 vs M=1024^2)
3) Often when a disk is partitioned a bit of unused space is left before 
and after the partitioned space. The BIOS can count it, but the OS (which 
really sees the partition(s), not the drive itself) cannot.

What kind of discrepancy are you seeing?

Adam


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Cloning

2004-01-29 Thread Pedro Hernandez
Hello all!

I'm about to install Debian on 12 computers (i*86). They will use the
same setup regarding software, but the hardware differs somewhat
between them.

I would like to know if there is possible to, for example, install and
configure one box and then somhow "copy" the install to the others. Or
is the debian installer maybe scriptable?

Well, I have never done anything similar before- suggestions, anyone?


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RE: Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-29 Thread Rosenstrauch, David


> -Original Message-
> From: Dhiraj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:43 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Installing Debian on second hard disk
> 
> 
> Hello,
>   Thanks for your reply. I now see some possibility that it 
> might work. 
> However, for the problem you are facing, that even when you setup the 
> second(slave ?) HDD as the first one in BIOS, that drive ends 
> up as hdb 
> instead of hda. That I think is because, Linux ignores the BIOS and 
> finds out info about the disks on its own, so it knows that 
> hd0 is not 
> the first hard disk but the second one. I think windows 2000 also 
> functions like this. So, I need to know whether your hard 
> disk was hda 
> or hdb at the time of installation of Debian. If the disk 
> name changes 
> will debian still boot or will it refuse to boot ?


It's not really a problem for me at all - anymore at least.  It just caused a
bit of grief for me when I was setting up grub on both drives, as I didn't
initially realize that grub labels drives differently than the kernel does.

In any case, in answer to your question:

I initially installed Debian on the hda drive that came with the box - a 30GB
drive, which is a bit old and slow by today's standards.  So a few months
later, I bought a newer, faster 120GB drive (hdb) and copied (using dd) the
contents of hda to it.  I then changed the BIOS so that it would boot off of
hdb (which it did) and I figured I was done.

Recently, though, when I tried to install an upgraded kernel on hdb, I
discovered that the configuration I had created was actually booting grub and
the kernel from off of hda instead of hdb like I intended.

That's when I started playing around with grub to straighten it all out, and
learned about how grub and the kernel handle drive labels while booting.


> I want a separate grub on both hard disks and I will load the second 
> grub from the first one when I want to boot an OS on the 
> second disk, I 
> will remap hd0 and hd1 to fake the BIOS change. Hope I can 
> fool them !
> Why don't you too try this out instead of making changes in BIOS 
> everytime you want to boot from the second hard disk. Just write map 
> (hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0). This should swap your HDD's without 
> making changes to the BIOS everytime. Then you load the grub on the 
> second disk using chainloader just like we load windows bootloader.
> thanks a lot
> Dhiraj


The reason I didn't want to do this is so that I could have a "backup drive"
for disaster recovery purposes.  I wanted to make it so that either drive
would be able to boot completely independently of the other.  More
specifically, I wanted a setup whereby if I messed up something in my config
on the main drive (the fast, new, 120GB hdb) in such a way that I couldn't
boot off of that drive, I wanted to be able to just tweak the bios and boot
off of hda, so that I could then fix whatever was wrong on hdb.  Basically
this is the equivalent of having a knoppix/rescue disk pre-installed in the
PC.

Why don't I just use knoppix instead of hda as a backup?  I don't know.  hda
was already there and not doing anything, so this seemed like a good use for
it.  I also use to hold backups of some files from hdb, in case hdb gets
whacked somehow.


FYI - you should make sure to read the other response on this thread from Tom
Pfeifer:

> Debian can be installed to any drive, but if Debian is 
> installed to hda
> and then you later move that drive to hdb, you'll need to change the
> /etc/fstab entry for the root partition from hda to hdb. BIOS swapping
> or remapping in Grub won't work because the kernel ignores 
> these once it
> takes over on the boot.


He makes a good point here.  This is an argument for you not moving the drives
around in your machine too much while you're doing these installs, since
you'll have to keep updating the /etc/fstabs on the machines to reflect their
new drive label.


Hope this helps, and answers your questions.

Good luck with the setup!

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Re: music maker

2004-01-29 Thread Stephen Turner
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 23:36, Roy Pluschke wrote:
> On January 28, 2004 09:12 am, Stephen Turner wrote:
> 
> > Hi R.J.P,
> >
> > I got the message:-
> >
> > midia.cfg no such file or directory
> >
> > timidity can't read any configuration file
> >
> > pleae check /etc/timidity.cfg
> >
> > I have alsa installed. I shall read the noteedit website in the
> > meantime.
> >
> 
> It seems that in testing/unstable the timidity-patches are missing, perhaps 
> there was some licencing issue.
> 
> I installed timidity a long time ago -- probably on Ham. At that time the 
> patches that came with timidity weren't very good so I installed the 
> "eawpats" myself. They are available here 
> 
> http://www.stardate.bc.ca/eawpatches/eawpats12_full.rar
> 
> You will need to "unrar" them (apt-get install unrar)
> 
> I placed them in /usr/share/timidity/eawpats/
> 
> my timidity.cfg file looks as follows
> 
> # start
> dir /usr/share/timidity/eawpats/
> source gravis.cfg
> source gsdrums.cfg
> source gssfx.cfg
> source xgmap2.cfg
> # end
> 
> That should get you running :)
> 
> R.J.P.
Hi R.J.P,

Ok. thanks. but i install the unrar. tried unrar eaqpats12_fullxyz, but
i get a huge list of options. i tried -e -y but i keep getting the list
of options. This being the first i have even heard of unrar, what should
i do next?

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RE: Bruce Perens !!

2004-01-29 Thread rlx
Please

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

These discussions are tiresome and is leading nowhere,

Can yall go to another forum to continue this sort of word slinging.

Let's talk about Debian !!

Thanks a lot

rlx36

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Re: Cloning

2004-01-29 Thread John Schmidt
On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:00 am, Pedro Hernandez wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I'm about to install Debian on 12 computers (i*86). They will use the
> same setup regarding software, but the hardware differs somewhat
> between them.
>
> I would like to know if there is possible to, for example, install and
> configure one box and then somhow "copy" the install to the others. Or
> is the debian installer maybe scriptable?
>
> Well, I have never done anything similar before- suggestions, anyone?
>
>
> Thanks,
> --ph
Look into replicator.  Not used it, but did apt-cache show replicator and it 
may be what you want.

John


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Re: script to list installed packages

2004-01-29 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 07:58:36PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote:

> Careful, dpkg --get-selections doesn't always list only installed
> packages
> Try:
> 
> dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | cut -f1

To be pedantic, this will fail if a package has the string "install" in
its name and is in a non-installed state. Also, this will miss held
packages. Better would be

  dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 ~ "install|hold" {print $1}'

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Re: Re: resolv.conf file

2004-01-29 Thread Richard Black
The following change in /etc/dhclient-script will strip the \000 from 
the domain line in resolv.conf

make_resolv_conf() {
#  echo search $new_domain_name >/etc/resolv.conf
 echo search $new_domain_name | sed -e 's/\\000$//' >/etc/resolv.conf
Sincerely,
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http://www.cpqlinux.com/sitemap.html
This email is in regards to:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200308/msg05196.html
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:06, Victory wrote:
I setup my machine as a dhcp client, once in a while 
it add 000 to the end of search entry in "resolv.conf" file 
i.e "search mydomain.com\000" and it causing machine can not
ping other machine by name,
Where're these number 000 come from and how do to protect it
from doing it again ???
You're probably on a network that has a Windows machine running as the
DHCP server. If that's the case I know that pump (apt-get install pump)
will handle the information correctly and strip the \000 from the end.
dhclient may have some way of getting around it, but I just use pump if
I'm in a Windows environment.


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Re: Cloning

2004-01-29 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:00:23PM +0100, Pedro Hernandez wrote:
} Hello all!
} 
} I'm about to install Debian on 12 computers (i*86). They will use the
} same setup regarding software, but the hardware differs somewhat
} between them.
} 
} I would like to know if there is possible to, for example, install and
} configure one box and then somhow "copy" the install to the others. Or
} is the debian installer maybe scriptable?
} 
} Well, I have never done anything similar before- suggestions, anyone?

Though I don't have an immediate need for this, I expect to in the
future. This means that I've been playing with ideas in my head, but
haven't tested anything. Here are a few ideas, starting from the
assumptions that you have configured a "master" and that your machines
are x86 and identical:

1) dpkg --get-selections | grep '\' | cut -f1 | xargs dpkg-repack

   This will produce .debs of everything installed, including any
   changes you have made to config files, which you can use to recreate
   the system on a new machine once it has gone through a base install.
   Note that this will not capture additional config files, and that it
   can cause some issues with new versions overwriting modified config
   files later. See the dpkg-repack man page for details. Note that this
   still requires an install on each machine.

2) Get an external disk identical to all the internal disks. This isn't
   as hard as it sounds; get the disk, then get a USB or Firewire
   external enclosure for it. Boot with Knoppix and use dd to copy the
   master disk (entire disk, including MBR, e.g. /dev/hda not /dev/hda1)
   onto the external. Boot other machines with Knoppix and external
   drive connected and dd from external to internal. This preserves
   partitioning and everything, but can be expected to be slow for large
   disks.

3) Variant of #2. Instead of using an external disk, both the master and
   the clone with Knoppix, then use dd over netcat (you'll need a named
   pipe on each side). It may be possible to use UDP multicast or
   broadcast with netcat (this might require modifying the netcat
   source) to do more than one clone at a time. This requires a fast
   network (probably disconnected from everything else temporarily
   because it will completely fill the bandwidth) and many Knoppix CDs.
   It can be expected to be even slower than #2 for large disks, but
   if the multi-/broadcast trick works then it is amortized over the
   multiple concurrent installs.

4) Get an extra disk large enough to hold the full install (need not be
   identical to other disks, need not be external, only needed
   temporarily). Between installing and configuring the master,
   duplicate the master onto the external disk. After configuring, boot
   Knoppix and produce a diff -ur of the roots of the two disks. Get the
   output of dpkg --get-selections. Install the base system on a clone.
   Armed with the dpkg selections (named selections) and the diff output
   (name clone.patch), load the selections into dpkg (dpkg
   --set-selections < selections), install the selected packaged
   (apt-get dselect-upgrade), then boot into Knoppix and patch the
   system (patch < clone.patch). This needs refining, but it should work
   pretty dependably, especially with a local repository mirror.

5) Refinement of #4. No need for an extra disk, just keep a backup of
   each config file you change and produce patches for each one
   separately.

} Thanks,
} --ph
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Re: script to list installed packages

2004-01-29 Thread Michael D Schleif
* "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:01:29:00:27:11-0500] scribed:
> Hi all,
> 
> I know that somewhere there is a command to list all installed packages 
> (I even remember using it way back when...), but I can't seem to find it.
> I've looked at the various apt utility man pages and have not found 
> anything, even for apt-cache.  I'm trying to write a script to run the 
> command daily (with cron), and dump the list to a file. This should be a 
> useful tool to keep track of package installs and removals. Just by 
> running diff on two files, one can tell what got 
> install/removed/upgraded that day.

   dpkg -l | grep ^i

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Re: unable to load e1000 driver

2004-01-29 Thread Bernd Prager
- Original Message - 
From: "Sebastiaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:43 AM
...

> High,
>
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Bernd Prager wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> 
>
> > But insmod e1000 complains:
> > Using /lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/drivers/net/e1000.o
> > /lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/drivers/net/e1000.o: init_module: No such
device
> >
...
> haven't got experience with e1000, but 2 simple things pop up my mind:
> - does the e1000 driver belong to kernel 2.4.24 (since you mention version
> 4.3.15 explicitly). If not, why not use the driver from kernel 2.4.24?

That did it! Since I started with 2.4.18 I did not even notice that it had
become
a part of the kernel.

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jigdo question

2004-01-29 Thread kegwasher
just finished downloading sarge via jigdo.  the first three produced iso
images.  The other 9 end with iso.temp.  What do I do to make them into
iso's


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Re: Books for Debian.

2004-01-29 Thread Pedro M.
Scarletdown wrote:
Katipo wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:11:00 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Over a year ago I tried to install Debian, but did have the
time to play with the installation. I'm thinking of giving it
another try and was wondering if there are any current
books on the installation procedure.


Debian GNU/Linux Bible by Steve Hunger. ISBN 0-7645-4710-0. Highly 
recommended. Then if you have any change left over, Linux Power Tools 
by Roderick W. Smith. ISBN 0-7821-4226-5 to follow it up.
Those two in combination, you can't go wrong.


Or alternatively, pop in a Knoppix CD, then at the boot prompt enter:

knoppix lang=us 2

Once you are at the command prompt...

knx-hdinstall

After creating your partitions, Knoppix will be installed onto your hard 
drive (Debian Unstable, IIRC).  From there, you can use KPackage to 
uninstall stuff you don't need and install other packages you might 
want...Or instead of KPackage, you can use apt-get install.

That is one of the easiest ways to get a fully functional Debian system 
up and running.  :D



I suggest try http://www.morphix.org with Gnome. The installation is 
automatic ( I only have to add a SiS graphics card controller ).

And you can get ( and write ) a lot of help from the Morphix wiki ;)

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Re: script to list installed packages

2004-01-29 Thread Pedro M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,

I know that somewhere there is a command to list all installed packages 
(I even remember using it way back when...), but I can't seem to find it.
I've looked at the various apt utility man pages and have not found 
anything, even for apt-cache.  I'm trying to write a script to run the 
command daily (with cron), and dump the list to a file. This should be a 
useful tool to keep track of package installs and removals. Just by 
running diff on two files, one can tell what got 
install/removed/upgraded that day.

Thanks,
PaulNM

Good work, This is interesting to include in Debian .

It's a necessary and userfriendly tool.

Regards.

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RE: Cloning

2004-01-29 Thread Preston Boyington

> Subject: Cloning
> 
> 
> Hello all!
> 
> I'm about to install Debian on 12 computers (i*86). They will use the
> same setup regarding software, but the hardware differs somewhat
> between them.
> 
> I would like to know if there is possible to, for example, install and
> configure one box and then somhow "copy" the install to the others. Or
> is the debian installer maybe scriptable?
> 
> Well, I have never done anything similar before- suggestions, anyone?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> --ph
> 
 One of the best things about using Debian is the ability to make a list of
installed packages and have the computer install them on a system with a
simple command. This is great for loading a new computer. I use a dpkg
command to make a list of my installed packages which I archive. That way I
can install all my packages that I want on a system with just a few
keystrokes.

I use this sequence of commands (found on Debian Planet to my best
recollection)

Do this command on the source system to create a list of packages:

dpkg --get-selections > list.txt

Do this command on the target system to load the list of packages:

dpkg --set-selections < list.txt

Do this to install the packages:

dselect install

Also, you can name the list whatever you want and direct the output to
wherever you want. I just showed it as "list.txt" and have it going to my
"/" directory instead of "/home/foo/documents/list.txt"

you may also want to look into having the target systems "apt-get" from your
source machine's cache.  that way only one system is downloading from the
internet and the rest look to it for updates and such.

others may give better or more automated answers, but this is what i have
used in the past when we roll out a new workstation that has different/newer
hardware, but the same software.

preston


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Re: Cloning

2004-01-29 Thread Tim Ruehsen
Just to add a point to #2:
Instead of dd'ing you could cpio one or more archives onto a NFS (or SMB) 
drive, partition all your drives and play back the cpio archives. This seems 
to bee good if you have a big HD but little space used (e.g. 80GB drive, but 
just 3GB data). AND you could start the copy on each of your clones at 
(nearly) the same time and go to lunch... ;-)

Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2004 17:12 schrieb Gregory Seidman:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:00:23PM +0100, Pedro Hernandez wrote:
> } Hello all!
> }
> } I'm about to install Debian on 12 computers (i*86). They will use the
> } same setup regarding software, but the hardware differs somewhat
> } between them.
> }
> } I would like to know if there is possible to, for example, install and
> } configure one box and then somhow "copy" the install to the others. Or
> } is the debian installer maybe scriptable?
> }
> } Well, I have never done anything similar before- suggestions, anyone?
>
> Though I don't have an immediate need for this, I expect to in the
> future. This means that I've been playing with ideas in my head, but
> haven't tested anything. Here are a few ideas, starting from the
> assumptions that you have configured a "master" and that your machines
> are x86 and identical:
>
> 1) dpkg --get-selections | grep '\' | cut -f1 | xargs dpkg-repack
>
>This will produce .debs of everything installed, including any
>changes you have made to config files, which you can use to recreate
>the system on a new machine once it has gone through a base install.
>Note that this will not capture additional config files, and that it
>can cause some issues with new versions overwriting modified config
>files later. See the dpkg-repack man page for details. Note that this
>still requires an install on each machine.
>
> 2) Get an external disk identical to all the internal disks. This isn't
>as hard as it sounds; get the disk, then get a USB or Firewire
>external enclosure for it. Boot with Knoppix and use dd to copy the
>master disk (entire disk, including MBR, e.g. /dev/hda not /dev/hda1)
>onto the external. Boot other machines with Knoppix and external
>drive connected and dd from external to internal. This preserves
>partitioning and everything, but can be expected to be slow for large
>disks.
>
> 3) Variant of #2. Instead of using an external disk, both the master and
>the clone with Knoppix, then use dd over netcat (you'll need a named
>pipe on each side). It may be possible to use UDP multicast or
>broadcast with netcat (this might require modifying the netcat
>source) to do more than one clone at a time. This requires a fast
>network (probably disconnected from everything else temporarily
>because it will completely fill the bandwidth) and many Knoppix CDs.
>It can be expected to be even slower than #2 for large disks, but
>if the multi-/broadcast trick works then it is amortized over the
>multiple concurrent installs.
>
> 4) Get an extra disk large enough to hold the full install (need not be
>identical to other disks, need not be external, only needed
>temporarily). Between installing and configuring the master,
>duplicate the master onto the external disk. After configuring, boot
>Knoppix and produce a diff -ur of the roots of the two disks. Get the
>output of dpkg --get-selections. Install the base system on a clone.
>Armed with the dpkg selections (named selections) and the diff output
>(name clone.patch), load the selections into dpkg (dpkg
>--set-selections < selections), install the selected packaged
>(apt-get dselect-upgrade), then boot into Knoppix and patch the
>system (patch < clone.patch). This needs refining, but it should work
>pretty dependably, especially with a local repository mirror.
>
> 5) Refinement of #4. No need for an extra disk, just keep a backup of
>each config file you change and produce patches for each one
>separately.
>
> } Thanks,
> } --ph
> --Greg


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Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-29, Kent West penned:
> Monique Y. Herman originally wrote:
>
>> What might cause xmms to go from audibly playing a song to seemingly
>> playing a song (progress bar moving, lines bouncing up and down as
>> the song plays) without producing any actual sound?
>
>
> Then she said to disregard that post, and wrote:
>
>>I am a moron.  That is all.
>
> But in what way? Inquiring minds want to know.
>

Fine, drag my shame out into the light of day.

You know that red line that goes through the speaker icon on the gnome
panel?  Yeah, apparently that means it's set to "mute," and clicking it
fixes the problem, and gets rid of the ugly line.  Shocking, I know.

I had previously been getting error messages and been trying various
things to fix them.  It eventually dawned on me that my user needed to
be in the audio group.  Anyway, I had some vague notion that the red
line might indicate "stuff not working" rather than simply mute ...
until I clicked on it ...

I still haven't figured out how sound drivers, alsa, and esd interact.
Apparently I don't need alsa *or* esd running to get sound, which is
probably a good thing, as alsa doesn't seem to support my onboard sound.
Still, there must be a reason that alsa and esd exist ... so ... back to
the docs for me.

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CUPS & Brother HL-1450: junk page appearing before every printout.

2004-01-29 Thread Adam
I'm running Debian testing with the following packages installed (from dpkg
-l):

ii  cupsomatic-ppd20040102-1
ii  cupsys1.1.20candidate6-6
ii  cupsys-client 1.1.20candidate6-6
ii  cupsys-driver-gimpprint   4.2.5-6
ii  lpr   2000.05.07-5

I used the CUPS browser interface to install a Brother HL-1450 laser
printer on the parallel port with the driver "Brother HL-1450 Foomatic
hl1250 (recommended)".  I've also tried the others relevant drivers and
replacing lpr with cupsys-bsd, and I always get the same problem: every
printout is preceded by a sheet with some letters (usually "d a b") spread
across the page near the top.  This also happens with printouts from
another computer over Samba.

Is this a bug or have I misconfigured something?

Thanks,
Adam


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Resposta Automática

2004-01-29 Thread bestbsb
Obrigado por entrar em contato!!!

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-29 Thread Pedro M.
s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Scarletdown:

How's about something like this?

Dear Linux user,

Please find the NEW LINUX Virus program called HONOR. Since this


Scenario 1:
"Hey Boss; the mailserver's hosed again."
"How did that happen?"

"Someone checked their mail."

Scenario 2:
"Hey Boss; the mailserver's hosed again."
"How did that happen?"

"su -c '/bin/rm -rf /'"

Who says everything's easier in Windows?


Nor easier, nor free.

See http://www.seedwiki.com/page.cfm?wikiid=4149&doc=UserFriendlyLinux

(on monday / tuesday ).

We can help making Linux more user-friendly ;)

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Re: 256-color xterm

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Price
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:55:51PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > can anyone tell me how to build  an xterm with 256 colors using the
> > debian source package?  I'd just like a bit more flexibility -- and
> > I'd like to have the off-the-shelf values for emacs highlighting work
> > when I'm in a terminal.  
> 
> The simplest way is to use the configure script which is part of the
> sources (see the INSTALL file for a summary of options).
> 
> The XFree86 xterm supports ANSI color and VT220 emulation
> There's an faq at
>   http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html
>   ftp://invisible-island.net/xterm/
> 

thanks for this...  I'm a bit confuseed about the deb-src package for
xterm.  As you probably know, apt-get source xterm downloads files
named xfree86-4.2.1*.  The implication is that one needs to build the
whole of xfree86 in order to make a debian package; and following the
instructions from the debian reference manual, namely:  

dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc

from within the directory
xfree86-4.2.1 

results in an attempt to build xfree86 (which fails, I suppose
because not all the sources are really present).  

I am, however, able to use the configure script in the
/xfree86-4.2.1/upstream/archives/xc/programs/xterm 
directory to turn on the --enable-256-colors switch.  

sooo... should I now just make, make install a custom xterm -- or is
there in fact a way to make a .deb of xterm without building the whole
xfree86 suite?  

Since I rely heavily on jdpkg/apt form anagingm y system, I'd really
rather build a .deb than just install porgrams willy-nilly.

Thanks,

matt


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Web server with PHP setup & mod-ssl

2004-01-29 Thread Danny O'Brien

I'm rebuilding a web server with a home-grown PHP site that allows users to log in securely, to view, upload, and download files. This is my first real foray into Debian.

Here's the spec:

Kernel2.4.18-bf2.4
Apache1.3.26-0woo
openssl0.9.6c-2.wo
postgres7.2.1-2wood
php4.1.2-6wood

My questions:

- does "apt-get upgrade" always provide the most secure versions? The reason I ask is:

- Apache 1.3.26 seems ancient -- is this an OK version to run? I have executed apt-get upgrade, and apt.conf is set for "stable."

- also, openssl is up to 0.9.6 "l" -- 0.9.6 "c" also seems ancient.

- My previous build ran mod-ssl. However, there is no mod-ssl package in Debian. Has anyone installed mod-ssl under Debian, or is there a better program for this function?

TIA

- Danny O'Brien

Re: Cloning

2004-01-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Gregory Seidman said on Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:12:51AM -0500:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:00:23PM +0100, Pedro Hernandez wrote:
> } Hello all!
> } 
> } I'm about to install Debian on 12 computers (i*86). They will use the
> } same setup regarding software, but the hardware differs somewhat
> } between them.
> } 
> } I would like to know if there is possible to, for example, install and
> } configure one box and then somhow "copy" the install to the others. Or
> } is the debian installer maybe scriptable?
> } 
> } Well, I have never done anything similar before- suggestions, anyone?

I'd look into FAI, or systemimager.

M


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Re: recompilation and optimalization

2004-01-29 Thread David Z Maze
Karol Czachorowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there any way I could recompile existing packages in my system?
> apt-build has no documentation and seems not to work...

You might look through some of the generic Debian developer
documentation...

> And if I use apt-get source and build manually, in many packages, I can't
> add optimalization flags to gcc/g++ (CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS aren't pass to
> compiler). Is there any (universal) way to pass flags to compiler while
> building debian packages?

No, there isn't.  You can edit debian/rules in each source package by
hand, or possibly build using something like pentium-builder.

Historically, though, Debian's position has generally been that
processor-specific optimizations would add a lot of space to the
archive and take up developer time, at very minimal performance gain
for most users.  There are exceptions, and things like crypto
libraries and linear algebra packages *do* have optimized versions
(I have a couple of files in /usr/lib/i686/cmov, for example).  Search
the list archives of debian-user and debian-devel for more information.

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Re: Evolution install

2004-01-29 Thread Pedro M.
Darrell wrote:
I am using flonix ( a small debian distro) and want to run Evolution.  I did apt-get install evolution and about 5-6 different packages needed to be installed. I thought apt-get and even synaptic would solve these?

I need to install a groupware program ( or a good alternative contact manager app0 for 
business- need email- calendar and scheduling all in one if another linux app is 
available.
Copy of source.list
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main contrib non-free 
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main contrib non-free 
#deb http://www.modularity.org/knoppix ./
#deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main 
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable contrib

I don't want to get another distro just for a good PIM.

Any ideas

Darrell  


Look for information at http://morphix.tuxfamily.org

Did you install it in a bootable USB-stick  ???.

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Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 12:59:06PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Does this mean that the volunteer list maintainer who has limited time 
> to maintain the list is a Debian Developer,

Yes.

> I am under the impression that recently there is NO maintenance of
> this list, judging by the amount of crap that is appearing...

That's rubbish, I'm afraid; the amount of crap you see is a tiny portion
of the amount of crap that gets filtered before you ever see it. (I
don't administer lists.debian.org, but I administer bugs.debian.org and
know that that statement holds true for us; I also know that
lists.debian.org has rather better filtering than the bug tracking
system currently does.)

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Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote:
> If package A needs package B, and package B needs package A, why in
> the world are they two separate packages?  

Separate libraries frequently need to be in separate packages, because
all hell breaks loose otherwise if the soname of library A changes while
the soname of library B stays the same.

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Re: features in galeon-1.2.5 vs 1.3.11+, was: Status of Galeon intesting?

2004-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:01:37 +0100, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erich Waelde) wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I use Galeon 1.3.11a with mozilla 1.5-3 underneath (testing?)
> 
> 
> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On 24 Jan 2004 13:14:06 +0100, 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels L. Ellegaard) wrote in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > > ..how about cookies?  I generally want "allow these cookies" ban
> > > > these cookies" and "ban this spam site", should take 3 buttons
> > > > only, but is a major hassle with all browsers I've used, you get
> > > > "accept" or "ban" and "these cookies only" or "all cookies".
> > > 
> > > Right click on picture and chose "ban pictures from this site"
> > > 
> > > In the menu you can choose
> > > "web" -> "cookies" -> "ban cookies from this site"
> > > "web" -> "popups" ->  "ban popups from this site"
> > > (These menu item took me a while to find :)
> > 
> > ..not good enough IMO, entering a new site, I like to decide how to
> > treat the first few cookies before I make up my mind on the site,
> > that required going back and forth between the "these few" and "all
> > sites" menus, I decide to ban or not depending on how I like each
> > site's cookie policy.
> 
> I have choosen Edit > Preferences > Privacy
>   [*] accept all cookies
> but also
>   [*] warn before accepting a cookie.
> That present a dialog every time cookies from a new (=unvisited) site
> appear. Then I can look at the cookie details and reject/accept it/or
> all following as well.

..your choise is fine for you.  Is my choise _possible_?

..another grudge of mine, is I often get bombarded with cookies on
entering new sites.  I like to take a look _first_, _then_ decide
whether or not cookies are warranted.  Is this possible in any browser?
I'm the "You push me, I ban your cookies." kinda fella.

> > > They have made a nice personal data manger with the following
> > > tabs:
> > > 
> > > Cookies : Which cookies do you have
> > > Cookie sites : Who can/cannot set cookies
> > > Image sites : Who can/cannot show images
> > > Passwords : Which passwords do you remember
> > > Password sites : For which sites don't you wish to remember
> > > passwords Popup sites : Which sites cannot make popups
> > 
> > ..here I miss "Which spam sites to firewall to death."
> > 
> > > > ..is it still possible to drag tabs across each other?  Or
> > > > between Galeon instances?
> > > 
> > > You can drag tabs from one Galeon window to another Galeon
> > > window. (Window == instance?). This works very nicely. 
> > 
> > ..uh, between windows, no longer sure if I ever have moved tabs
> > between instances.  
> > 
> > > My only grudge is that if a Galeon window only has one tab, then
> > > the drag handle disappears. This means that I cannot drag the last
> > > remaining tab into another window. In other words I cannot empty a
> > > window for all tabs. Galeon 1.2.5 had a very nice menu item for
> > > this but sadly this menu item has not been reimplemented.
> 
> Sure, it's there:
> Edit > Preferences > Tabs
>   [*] Show tab bar if only one tab is open

..is this tab possible to move to another window or instance?

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Re: Derivative effects.

2004-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:46:24 -0800, 
Day Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Al Davis wrote:
>  
> > At the time, I believed like the majority, that Henderson was just
> > jealous of his competition, because he couldn't keep up.  In
> > hindsight, now I see it Henderson's way.
> > 
> > How is this case different from GPL violations today?
> > 
> > http://www.esva.net/~thom/philkatz.html
> > http://www.was-ist-fido.de/doks/fnews/fido540.txt
> Whatever history decides what the details were, the future looks like
> we are going to return to the Greek tradition, which was to view ideas
> as the gifts of the Muses. Therefore not patentable. 

..I take it you guys here discuss the US "Software Patents" and not real
life patent such as say, Orville and Wilbur Wright wing twist patent?

..patent was conceived as a legal instrument to promote industry and
the advance of technology, by allowing the innovator a 20 year monopoly
to exploit his idea commercially, _provided_ the idea is new, provides a
technical and tangible effect that is reproducible, and can be exercized
by anyone with average knowledge of the state of art in the relevant
field of technology.

..it is right there, that the US has failed.

> The complexity of software is such now that the judges and juries who
> decide case law cannot possibly understand what they are doing, and-
> as the PKzip case suggests, we'll find ways around the court decisions
> to make them trivial.


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Re: libmemoize-perl/testing: Broken package?

2004-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 01:29:43PM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote:
> I then update /etc/apt/sources.list to look like this:
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
> deb http://cedar-solutions.com/ftp/debian stable main
> deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian woody mythtv
[...]
> # apt-get install libmemoize-perl
> 
> libmemoize-perl: Depends: perl (>= 5.6.0-16) but it is not going to be 
> installed
> E: Broken packages
> 
> Oddly enough, I can install perl, but once I do, I now get a different 
> error message:
> 
> # apt-get install perl
> # apt-get install libmemoize-perl
> 
> libmemoize-perl: Conflicts: perl (>= 5.8.0) but 5.8.2-2 is to be installed
> E: Broken packages
> 
> Suggestions?

libmemoize-perl doesn't appear to be part of Debian. It probably comes
from one of the third-party sources listed above; I suggest you use
'apt-cache policy libmemoize-perl' to find out which, then use
'apt-cache show libmemoize-perl' to find out who the maintainer is and
ask him/her about it.

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Re: Mailbox problem... messgae too large

2004-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:14:13AM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote:
> Seems it's solved, but if your mailbox (thus the file
> /var/spool/mail/X) is in use, check the processes which are using it:
> fuser -av /var/spool/mail/XX

FWIW, Debian's canonical mail spool location has been /var/mail rather
than /var/spool/mail for a while now.

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Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Monique Y. Herman:
> 
> Fine, drag my shame out into the light of day.

  :-)

I'd assumed your volume was just turned way down.  That's often the
problem with sound mis-configuration.

If you ever figure out what esd is there for, I'd like to know.  'Til
now, it seems everyone mentioning it is saying, "Once I killed esd,
$blah started working."


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Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread John Hasler
Monique writes:
> You know that red line that goes through the speaker icon on the gnome
> panel?  Yeah, apparently that means it's set to "mute," and clicking it
> fixes the problem, and gets rid of the ugly line.

Is this documented somewhere that a user is likely to look?  If not the
moron is the programmer who came up with it.  Why should it be considered
obvious that a red line means mute and that clicking it turns it off?
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Re: Web server with PHP setup & mod-ssl

2004-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:03:19PM -0500, Danny O'Brien wrote:
> Here's the spec: 
> 
> Kernel2.4.18-bf2.4 
> Apache1.3.26-0woo 
> openssl0.9.6c-2.wo 
> postgres7.2.1-2wood 
> php4.1.2-6wood 
> 
> My questions: 
> 
> - does "apt-get upgrade" always provide the most secure versions? The 
> reason I ask is: 
> 
> - Apache 1.3.26 seems ancient -- is this an OK version to run? I have 
> executed apt-get upgrade, and apt.conf is set for "stable." 
> 
> - also, openssl is up to 0.9.6 "l" -- 0.9.6 "c" also seems ancient. 

We patch security problems in older versions in the stable suite rather
than upgrading them wholesale. See:

  http://www.debian.org/security/faq#version

You can look in /usr/share/doc//changelog.Debian.gz to find a
record of these changes as applied.

> - My previous build ran mod-ssl. However, there is no mod-ssl package 
> in Debian. Has anyone installed mod-ssl under Debian, or is there a 
> better program for this function? 

That's the libapache-mod-ssl package.

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RE: Email client programs

2004-01-29 Thread Soumyadip Modak
Hi, 

> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Ben Yau wrote:
> 
> > True, but you can do your best to workaround the network issue.  In this
> > case, a mail client that would actually do something akin to
> > 
> > retr 1
> > del 1
> > retr 2
> > del 2
> > retr 3
> > del 3
> > 
> > Instead of retrieving all messages _and then_ deleting which is what outlook
> > express seemes to do .  I don't know of a mail client that will delete as it
> > downloads.
> 

IIRC, Eudora should do the job, if you are so keen on a Windoze client
(i deleted the original post, so i don't exactly remember the actual
requirements). There should be a free adware version. Don't quite
remember the website. 
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lots of zombies with Mozilla, MozillaFirebird or psi

2004-01-29 Thread Roman Joost
I had lots of Zombie processes lastly on my debian sid box and can't
find the problem. Does somebody run into similar problems with wrong
preferences or something?

The following programs causing zombie processes:
Mozilla: 1.6-1
PSI: 0.9-2
MozillaFirebird (Nightly Build): Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
  rv:1.7a) Gecko/20040127 Firebird/0.8.0+
Rhythmbox: 0.6.5-1

Are there some tools, to look what happens with the program and which
causes these zombie processes? Maybe something like: garlic ;)


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Fw: aespipe & encrypted cdroms, not working

2004-01-29 Thread Rodney D. Myers

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:08:40 -0800
From: "Rodney D. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aespipe & encrypted cdroms, not working


I'm trying to get aes to encrypt a cdrom, using the following;


yes "" | dd of=test.iso bs=512 count=16

head -c 2880 /dev/random | uuencode -m - | head -n 65 | tail -n 64 | gpg --symmetric 
-a | dd of=test.iso  conv=notrunc

mkisofs -r /home/rodney/multimedia-graphics/specialty | aespipe -w 10 -K test.iso -O 
16 >>test.iso

When this is done, it appears to have created a valid iso image,
but...

But when I attempt to mount this iso image, with the following, I keep
receiving an error message; [ correct error message below ]

sudo mount -t iso9660 test.iso /cdrom -o 
loop=/dev/loop0,encryption=AES128,gpgkey=test.iso,offset=8192

Password:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
   or too many mounted file systems


I have no idea as to qhat could be wrong. 

Any tips and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

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RE: Web server with PHP setup & mod-ssl

2004-01-29 Thread Rosenstrauch, David



 

  -Original Message-From: Danny O'Brien 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 
  12:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Web 
  server with PHP setup & mod-ssl
   
   

   - does 
  "apt-get upgrade" always provide the most secure versions? The reason I ask 
  is: [Rosenstrauch, David] 
  Debian stable is considered the most secure.  A 
  distro isn't promoted from testing to stable until it's been thoroughly 
  tested.  (See http://www.debian.org/releases/)
  - Apache 1.3.26 seems ancient -- is this an OK version to run? I have 
  executed apt-get upgrade, and apt.conf is set for "stable."[Rosenstrauch, 
  David] 
  That said, the flip side of that is 
  that there can be a *long* time between releases in stable.  The last major release of
stable 
  was on  19th of July, 2002.
  So, yes, the version of Apache in stable
is 
  1.3.26, which is older.  But, as the stable distro is considered the
most 
  stable, that's the one you should run if you're most concerned about 
  security.  Although you certainly could upgrade to the version from 
  testing (1.3.29) if you'd like, you should be aware that testing does
not 
  receive security updates in nearly as timely a fashion as stable.  (See
  http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing) 
  So that might be a bit on the risky side for you, depending on how secure 
  and mission-critical you need this web server to be
  - also, openssl is up to 0.9.6 "l" -- 0.9.6 "c" also seems ancient. 
  [Rosenstrauch, David] 
  Same 
  answer as Apache. 
  - My previous build ran mod-ssl. However, there is no mod-ssl package in 
  Debian. Has anyone installed mod-ssl under Debian, or is there a better 
  program for this function? 
  TIA 
  - Danny O'Brien[Rosenstrauch, David] 
  There's an apache-ssl package under Debian.  
  Try "apt-get remove apache" followed by "apt-get install 
  apache-ssl".
   
  HTH,
  DR
   

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Re: CUPS & Brother HL-1450: junk page appearing before every printout.

2004-01-29 Thread Clive Menzies
On (29/01/04 16:46), Adam wrote:
> I'm running Debian testing with the following packages installed (from dpkg
> -l):
> 
> ii  cupsomatic-ppd20040102-1
> ii  cupsys1.1.20candidate6-6
> ii  cupsys-client 1.1.20candidate6-6
> ii  cupsys-driver-gimpprint   4.2.5-6
> ii  lpr   2000.05.07-5
> 
> I used the CUPS browser interface to install a Brother HL-1450 laser
> printer on the parallel port with the driver "Brother HL-1450 Foomatic
> hl1250 (recommended)".  I've also tried the others relevant drivers and
> replacing lpr with cupsys-bsd, and I always get the same problem: every
> printout is preceded by a sheet with some letters (usually "d a b") spread
> across the page near the top.  This also happens with printouts from
> another computer over Samba.
> 
> Is this a bug or have I misconfigured something?
It looks as though you may be a package or two light ;)  I used the
following very useful guide for setting up printing:

http://excess.org/docs/linux_windows_printing.html

HTH

Clive



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Installing Debian with an Asus A7V333 Motherboard

2004-01-29 Thread Paul Galbraith
I've written up the method I've used to install Debian
on my Asus A7V333 system, which is a buggered process
due to the onboard Promise PDC20276 "raid" controller.

I've stalled in my writing of the document, but I
think there's still enough information to be of use to
anyone who wants to install Debian on this
motherboard. 

You can find the document at
http://www.geocities.com/paul_galbraith/debian-a7v333.html.

Comments are appreciated.

Paul


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