Re: Apache/DSL Modem/Port Forwarding

2003-09-03 Thread Elizabeth Barham
eric writes:

> > If so, then you may be experiencing a problem related to your DSL
> > modem.
> 
> welcome any softer soln so I can save a little money to rent static
> ip.  actiontec tech support told me port 80 be used by that
> dsl/router

You mentioned Port Forwarding in your original email so if your DSL
modem is capable of doing that then it may work.

Keep in mind, however, that the reverse action from your side of the
modem may not be what others see; it may be working but you can't see
it. After you set up port forwarding on your DSL modem then you may
want to ask a friend or someone with a different net IP address to try
and report what he or she sees.

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RE: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-03 Thread Joyce, Matthew

there are some really petty people on this list.

which is a shame.


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> 
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> > There have been computer games for as long as there have been 
> > computers.
> 
> [quibble]
> 
> The first computers were not driven by electricity.
> 
> Why don't you take a history lesson first before commenting 
> on computers and computer games?
> 
> [/quibble]
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Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-03 Thread David Palmer
I'm not a gamer myself. Occasionally I might play a game of chess on the net, 
and on an install the first things I get rid of are games. They just take up 
too much space, because they simply aren't condusive to the direction I'm 
heading in. BUT:-
The lad has a point. If it wasn't for gaming, graphics cards, processor 
development, and a number of other computor applications would be stuck at a 
stage not all that far advanced from the point of electricity invention 
Gaming has been , if not the foremost innovating force, at least in the top 
two.
Regards,

David.


On Wednesday 03 September 2003 13:49, Jesse Meyer wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> > There have been computer games for as long as there have been computers.
>
> [quibble]
>
> The first computers were not driven by electricity.
>
> Why don't you take a history lesson first before commenting on computers
> and computer games?
>
> [/quibble]


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PPTPD server troubles

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Maas




Hi All,
 
I've been trying to get the pptp server (vpn 
server) working.
And I think I succeeded!
 
I can connect from outside to the server, my login 
is validated and the connection is established.
Syslog excerpt:
 

  Sep  2 18:45:15 debian pptpd[3313]: MGR: Manager process 
  startedSep  2 18:45:24 debian pptpd[3314]: CTRL: Client 24.132.28.xxx 
  control connection startedSep  2 18:45:24 debian pptpd[3314]: CTRL: 
  Starting call (launching pppd, opening GRE)Sep  2 18:45:24 debian 
  pppd[3315]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0Sep  2 18:45:24 debian 
  pppd[3315]: Using interface ppp0Sep  2 18:45:24 debian pppd[3315]: 
  Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/2Sep  2 18:45:24 debian 
  pptpd[3314]: CTRL: Ignored a SET LINK INFO packet with real 
  ACCMs!Sep  2 18:45:24 debian pppd[3315]: Couldn't set pass-filter in 
  kernel: Invalid argumentSep  2 18:45:24 debian pppd[3315]: CHAP peer 
  authentication succeeded for markSep  2 18:45:25 debian pppd[3315]: 
  found interface eth1 for proxy arpSep  2 18:45:25 debian pppd[3315]: 
  local  IP address 192.168.8.5Sep  2 18:45:25 debian pppd[3315]: 
  remote IP address 192.168.8.6Sep  2 18:47:17 debian pppd[3315]: LCP 
  terminated by peer (ZM-R8S^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@)Sep  2 
  18:47:17 debian pppd[3315]: Modem hangupSep  2 18:47:17 debian 
  pppd[3315]: Connection terminated.Sep  2 18:47:17 debian pppd[3315]: 
  Connect time 1.9 minutes.Sep  2 18:47:17 debian pppd[3315]: Sent 645 
  bytes, received 11207 bytes.Sep  2 18:47:17 debian pppd[3315]: 
  Exit.Sep  2 18:47:17 debian pptpd[3314]: GRE: read error: Bad file 
  descriptorSep  2 18:47:17 debian pptpd[3314]: CTRL: PTY read or GRE 
  write failed (pty,gre)=(-1,-1)Sep  2 18:47:17 debian pptpd[3314]: 
  CTRL: Client 24.132.28.145 control connection 
finished
But something is 
wrong, I can ping the inside nic (eth0 or 192.168.8.5) and the outside nic 
(eth1)
but I 
cannot ping (or reach) any of the inside computers, for instance 
192.168.8.50
 
Or when I 
try to ping google.nl after connection has been established I can see that DNS 
IS working! the name "google.nl" is perfectly resolved to 
216.239.39.100
The result 
of pinging google.nl via the vpn is this:
 

  Q:\>ping google.nl
   
  Pinging 
  google.nl [216.239.39.100] with 32 bytes of data:
   
  Request 
  timed out.Request timed out.Request timed out.Request timed 
  out.
   
  Ping 
  statistics for 216.239.39.100:    Packets: Sent = 4, 
  Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
DNS works, but the ping request's 
fail...
 
What am I doing wrong?
 
Mark
 
I've attached the main PPTPD config 
files, and the modules loaded on boot time.
 
 


chap-secrets
Description: Binary data


modules
Description: Binary data


modules.conf
Description: Binary data


pptpd.conf
Description: Binary data


pptpd-options
Description: Binary data


Re: remove Debian

2003-09-03 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:33:36PM -0700, Yu Sun wrote:
> I have installed Debain with Windows 98 on my notebook.

Wow, that's kinda creepy.  I'm curious, why would you want to do that?

> Now I want to remove Debian, make this notebook dedicated to
> Windows. How should I do it?

Stick it in, turn it on.

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Re: Cd manufactor

2003-09-03 Thread Carlos Sousa
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:12:08 -0400 Johann Koenig wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 15:52:18 -0300
> Savio Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > How can discover the media manufacturer of cd or cd-rw?
> 
> If your looking to find out about the actual cd / cd-rw (the little
> round thing), I don't think that it is possible. I do not believe that
> manufacturers stamp their name on the cd and/or that it is possible to
> read that kind of data.

cdrecord -v reveals the CD media manufacturer code, so it seems it
really is stamped on the media.

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Re: remove Debian

2003-09-03 Thread Frédéric Aliotti
A 15:47 02/09/03 -0400, vous avez écrit :
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:33:36PM -0700, Yu Sun wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
> Maybe this question is easy. However I cannot find answers from
> manuals.
>
> I have installed Debain with Windows 98 on my notebook. Now I want to
> remove Debian, make this notebook dedicated to Windows. How should I
> do it?
This is easy. You can do it from either Windows or Debian.

In windows simply run fdisk, delete your linux partitions and replace
them with Windows partitions (fat32 I guess). Then reboot.
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 if a boot loader is used to boot win98 and debian (lilo), then, removing 
the deb partition will remove the lilo.conf and all the lilo stuff. I think 
that the HD won't be bootable after that. Is it wrong ?

Cordialement, Frédéric Aliotti.

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Re: insmod usb-uhci ->No such device

2003-09-03 Thread Niels L. Ellegaard
csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> At 02 Sep 2003 22:19:32 +0200,
> Niels L. Ellegaard wrote:
> > I have some trouble loading the module usb-uhci into my kernel
> > (It is a 2.4.21 and I am using Sarge). I would be very grateful
> > for a hint of what I am doing wrong. Where should I look to
> > gain further knowledge?
> [...]
> Are you sure you need usb-uhci?  There are two other USB Host
> Controller Drivers.  How'bout "modprobe ehci-hcd" (USB 2.0
> version) or "modprobe usb-ohci"?

I have a logitech 4000 camera and I can use it with camstream and
usb-ohci. However after a while it freezes with a v4l
timeout. (Details will follow in a later post)

I decided to try to follow the the installation instructions of the
drivers precisely, before asking too many questions, and the website
of my camera drivers (pwc and pwcx) tells me to use usb-uhci.

Are usb-ohci and  usb-uhci equally good for an usb webcam?

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Samba

2003-09-03 Thread Oliveira, Jose Da Silva
 Hi LIST

 I wish I could know how to configure samba to force the automatical
password changing every 30 days. Thanks!!!


PS.: We are free... at least to think!




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Re: Best approach for SAMBA server with ACLs?

2003-09-03 Thread Hans Wilmer
Mark Roach wrote:
more information about the current state of development? 
google?
... gives many results concerning ACLs, ext3 and such, but I wasn´t 
successful in finding what I was looking for. It´s a difficult topic to da 
a search on ...

I have been using ext3 + acls with good results on a samba server that
serves profiles and home dirs for ~300 users for the past 8-9 months.
sounds good :)

How does SAMBA interact with ACLs?


There is no short/simple answer. Samba can use ACL's, for info on
exactly how to do so, first understand acls. Next understand winbind (if
you are on an NT domain). That should do it. The samba documentation is
pretty good.
THX, I´ll check it out. Currently, we´re using a rather old Novell Netware 
server which runs Netware 3.2, and some Linux servers and an NT server are 
set up besides. The NT server and on of the Linux servers operates as PDC, 
but most clients are still W95; some are NT, some W2k, a few W98.

Running those different types of servers creates unneccessary problems, and 
the plan is to migrate the Novell and NT servers to a new Linux server.

http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.html
THX!

GH

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Traction (was Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?)

2003-09-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 02:19:39AM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:44:43AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..2 reason diesel-electric locomotives are popular; they are 
> > about as clean as your average power utility, and they dont 
> > put heavy loads on the power grids.
> 
> Nope, and nope.  Diesel electrics are popular because they give the
> most bang for the buck.  Vastly more efficient than gasoline engines
> and mechanical transmissions (it's 2003, why can't I get a diesel
> electric car?, with fewer moving parts than the steam engines it
> replaced.  This makes them dirt cheap and bloody reliable.  The
> railroads really couldn't give a damn about how much electric they're
> using since they're not having to string thousands apon thousands of
> miles of overhead lines (another costly expense railroads don't bother
> with unless they can get economic benefit from the typically heavier
> and faster trains that electrified lines run).

Electric traction offers a few benefits:

  - Quieter.
  - Less (near zero) right-of-way (RoW) pollution.
  - Better high-speed performance.
  - Fewer ventilation issues for tunnels or enclosed operations (e.g.:
RR terminals).
  - Ability to power all axels.  
  
This last provides several benefits.  One is to reduce the amount of
slam between cars as the train accelerates or decellerates.
Ordinarially, cars pack into the locomotive as the train slows, and
start moving incrementally as the train starts (incidentally
distributing the startup load).  More significantly though, for long
trains, is the elimination of the stringlining problem.  This is the
result of having all your motive force at one end of a long line of
cars, while drag is distributed through the train.  On a long curve (or
series of curves), the tendency is for the string to straighten out.
This has resulted in several derailments in mountainous regions,
notabily Dunsmuir in northern California (near Mt. Shasta, just south of
the Oregon border).

Downsides of electrification are notably the cost of electrifying the
RoW, and aquisition of stock.

Also, back in my intern days at SMUD, I recall that the city's light
rail system operated in power blocks seperated (though not fully
independent of) the city grid, largely because of the acceleration and
deceleration power draws and surges.

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Re: how to broadcast web, if dsl modem block port 80

2003-09-03 Thread Wolfgang Fischer
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 06:00:11 +0200, eric lin wrote:

> Dear debian linux user:
> 
>   My isp qwest.net assigned dsl modem actiontec R1524SU, accord tech 
> support said it use port 80, he said If I am going to broadcast website,
>  I need to configure webserver to use other port and config modem to 
> forward that port, so I use port 70
> Listen 70
> in httpd.conf
> I tried http://(FQDN) or (public ip):70it reponse connection refused-if
>  no appendix 70, then it show the modem 's configure page
> 
>  my apache test page still can be accessed by , http://localhost, 
> http://127.0.0.1, or http://192.168.0.2(shown in my ifconfig)

If this (and not http://localhost:70) is still possible, you have to
restart apache. Changes in httpd.conf are used after restarting apache.
> 
> looking for any advanced advice
> sincere eric, 
> 
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Re: Traction (was Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?)

2003-09-03 Thread Russell Shaw
Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 02:19:39AM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:44:43AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

..2 reason diesel-electric locomotives are popular; they are 
about as clean as your average power utility, and they dont 
put heavy loads on the power grids.
Nope, and nope.  Diesel electrics are popular because they give the
most bang for the buck.  Vastly more efficient than gasoline engines
and mechanical transmissions (it's 2003, why can't I get a diesel
electric car?, with fewer moving parts than the steam engines it
replaced.  This makes them dirt cheap and bloody reliable.  The
railroads really couldn't give a damn about how much electric they're
using since they're not having to string thousands apon thousands of
miles of overhead lines (another costly expense railroads don't bother
with unless they can get economic benefit from the typically heavier
and faster trains that electrified lines run).
Electric traction offers a few benefits:

  - Quieter.
  - Less (near zero) right-of-way (RoW) pollution.
  - Better high-speed performance.
  - Fewer ventilation issues for tunnels or enclosed operations (e.g.:
RR terminals).
  - Ability to power all axels.
The track maintenance is less with electrics because there's no
pulsing action like with steam that pounds the tracks.
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Re: insmod usb-uhci ->No such device

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Chambers
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 10:03:15AM +0200, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote:
> I have a logitech 4000 camera and I can use it with camstream and
> usb-ohci. However after a while it freezes with a v4l
> timeout. (Details will follow in a later post)
> 
> I decided to try to follow the the installation instructions of the
> drivers precisely, before asking too many questions, and the website
> of my camera drivers (pwc and pwcx) tells me to use usb-uhci.
> 
> Are usb-ohci and  usb-uhci equally good for an usb webcam?

The uhci and ohci are for different USB controllers on your PC.  The
uhci is for VIA chipsets (and a few others - I not sure which though)
and the ohci covers the rest.

Only one will work with your PC.  If you use lspci -vv to see the
details of your USB controller it should show either UHCI or OHCI.

There's also ehci for USB 2.0 devices (still need ohci/uhci for slower
devices though).


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Re: Cd manufactor

2003-09-03 Thread Johann Koenig
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 09:05:47 +0100
Carlos Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > If your looking to find out about the actual cd / cd-rw (the little
> > round thing), I don't think that it is possible. I do not believe
> > that manufacturers stamp their name on the cd and/or that it is
> > possible to read that kind of data.
> 
> cdrecord -v reveals the CD media manufacturer code, so it seems it
> really is stamped on the media.

Interesting, I did not know that. Thanks.
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zmodem file transfer w/ minicom over serial connection

2003-09-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
I'm still trying to debug my file transfers between two Debian GNU/Linux 
systems using zmodem file transfers from within minicom, over a serial
connection.

I'm running minicom over a null-modem serial cable settings: 57600 8N1.

File transfer setting is:  

zmodem  /usr/bin/sz -vv -be YUN   Y   Y

I've played with that a bit, the default is /usr/sbin/sz -vv -b.


When initiating a transfer, I do:

$ rz# on the remote side of the link.

Remote side shows:

rz waiting to receive.**B010023be50

^AS # in minicom to start the transfer.

Select protocol and file to transfer.

The zmodem dialog shows:

+---[zmodem upload - Press CTRL-C to quit]+
|t TIMEOUTB010023be50Retry 0: Got TIMEOUTCRetry 0: Got TIM|
|EOUT |
|CRetry 0: Got TIMEOUT|
| |
|Transfer incomplete  |
| |
| READY: press any key to continue... |
+-+

And back on the remote side I have:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tmp]$ rz -vvv
Retry 0: Got TIMEOUTe.**B010023be50
C   **B010023be50
Transfer incomplete

Both sides have the lrzsz package installed.

I'm stumped.  This doesn't appear to be a frequently used configuration
;-)


I've tried setting the blocksize ("-k") and escape control chars ("-e")
on send side, as well as connection baud rates of 9600, 19200, 38400,
and 57600.  None of these appears to make a difference.

Assistance appreciated.

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Your Understanding And Cooperation

2003-09-03 Thread H B
Harrison Bello
Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please do not be apprehensive by this mail as I humbly seek YOUR PATIENCE,
UNDERSTANDING and COOPERATION in regard to my below plight. Once again, do
not
be apprehensive considering its magnitude and the fact that we have not
meet before.
I am contacting you in confidence believing that you will not turn down my
humble 
request of you, which I intend for our mutual benefit.

I am Mr. Harrison Bello, an accountant with Fountain Trust Finance House. I
am
the account manager of Mr. Fredrick Coleman, an Australian, who used to be a
civil contractor in Nigeria. In 1999, Mr. Fredrick Coleman was involved in a
car accident along Sagamu express road and unfortunately his live. Since
then I
have made several enquiries through his country’s embassy to locate any
of his extended relatives without successful. 

Hence, I am contacting you to assist in retrieving the money and property
left
behind by my client before they get confiscated or declared unserviceable by
this firm.Mr. Fredrick Coleman’s an account is valued 18.7 million dollars.
The
company has issued me a notice to provide his next of kin or have the
account
confiscated within the three months. Since I have been unsuccessful in
locating
his relatives for over 4 years now. I am therefore seeking your consent to
present you as the next of kin to the Mr. Coleman so that the proceeds of
this
account can be paid to you.

I intend to use part of this money for investment and charity outreach
while we
shall use part of it for our effort. For your assistance you will be
entitled
to 30% and I 65%. While 5% shall be used to reimburse expenses that might
be incurred 
during the process. I have all necessary data to facilitate success.

All I require is your honest co-operation and support to enable us see this
deal through.
I guarantee you that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement
will prevent any
breach of the law.

Please, if its okay with you, get back to me at this email
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to enable us 
discuss further.

Best regards,
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Re: verifying a Debian package

2003-09-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:20:40PM -0700, Paul Yeatman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi, just curious if anyone knows how to "verify" a package with
> Debian.  This has proved to be useful with some Red Hat machines I
> administer ("rpm {-V|--verify} ").  Such a command will
> check that all the files and their attributes are as expected for that
> package.  I've check the manual page for dpkg a few times but have
> not come up with an equivalent command for Debian yet.

Debian packages aren't signed.  There are authentication requirements
for uplaoding packages to distribution servers.

There are various reasons for this.  Joey Hess is probably closest to
the authoritative source.

Many files within many debian packages _do_ have MD5 sums.  The debsums
package allows you to validate installed files against an md5sum
database.  Think through what it is you're trusting when you do this.

There's some interestign online discussion of this issue.  See:

FROM: Anthony Towns
DATE: 04/04/2000 01:59:57
SUBJECT:  Packages and Signatures, a summary
http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/216/2000/4/1550/3549735/

Subject: Re: ITP: mini-dinstall -- daemon for updating Debian
packages in a repository
From: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:37:11 -0400
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200208/msg01172.html

Subject: Checking Signatures and Checksums
From: Aurelio Turco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:18:08 +
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/user/2002/09/msg00339.html

There's also a debsig-verify package, which I just learned about
researching this question ;-)

This is a FAQ, but I'm not coming up with a definitive answer at the
Debian FAQ:  http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/


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Re: strace pppd: open("/dev/ttyS1", O_RDWR

2003-09-03 Thread Shaul Karl
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:49:15AM +0200, Andrea Tasso wrote:
> hi all,
> pppd does not connect any more (to another pc with null modem cable), it used to 
> work perfectly.
> the command
> 
> pppd -detach debug crtscts 192.168.6.1:192.168.6.2 lock /dev/ttyS1 38400
> 
>  gives no output, and finally exits
> 
> if I strace it
> 
> the last string is
> open("/dev/ttyS1", O_RDWR 
> 
> my libc version is 2.3.2-3
> and ppp 2.4.1.uus-5
> 


  What is written in the log file? Are you trying to run it as root?
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Re: Traction (was Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?)

2003-09-03 Thread cr
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 21:18, Russell Shaw wrote:

> >
> > Electric traction offers a few benefits:
> >
> >   - Quieter.
> >   - Less (near zero) right-of-way (RoW) pollution.
> >   - Better high-speed performance.
> >   - Fewer ventilation issues for tunnels or enclosed operations (e.g.:
> > RR terminals).
> >   - Ability to power all axels.
>
> The track maintenance is less with electrics because there's no
> pulsing action like with steam that pounds the tracks.

Not necessarily so.Axle-hung (and hence unsprung) electric motors are far 
harder on the tracks than steam locomotives are.(This would apply to any 
diesel-electrics with axle-hung motors as well, of course). The Southern 
Railway in Britain found this out when it extended its suburban 
electrification to its main lines.   Axle-hung motors are fine at lower 
speeds but when speeds get over the 60mph mark, the track starts to suffer.

As to steam, the 'hammer-blow' is caused by the balance weights used to 
balance out the weight of the pistons in a fore-and-aft direction.It was 
found that three- and four-cylinder steam locomotives often needed very 
little or no balance at all, and hence caused no hammer-blow.

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Bug (proposed) - lockd_down: lockd failed to exit

2003-09-03 Thread Frans Pop
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Below the contents of a bug report I plan to submit against sysvinit.
The bug concerns an error message on console during poweroff when unmounting 
NFS-shares.

Any comments/suggestions welcome.

Frans Pop


From: Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: umountnfs.sh: lockd_down: lockd failed to exit
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.84-2woody1

This bug also concerns package nfs-common, version 1:1.0-2woody1.

During poweroff I always get the following message on console:
unmounting remote filesystems... \
  lockd_down: lockd failed to exit, clearing pid \
  done

This is on a desktop client for a Debian Woody NFS-server.
I have NFS-kernel support compiled in the kernel, so when the system is up I 
have (from ps alx):
  F   UID   PID  ... WCHAN  STAT ... COMMAND
140 1   129  poll   S/sbin/portmap
040 0   135  rpciod SW   [rpciod]
040 0   136  svc_re SW   [lockd]
140 0   214  select S/sbin/rpc.statd

It seems to me the problem could be the order in which scripts from 
/etc/init.d are run.
K81nfs-common  - stops /sbin/rpc.statd
S10portmap - stops /sbin/portmap
S19devfsd
S20sendsigs
S31umountnfs.sh- runs umount -tnfs -f -a -r; causing the error message

By the time umountnfs.sh is run, only [rpciod] and [lockd] are still running.

Part of the problem could be that, because I have NFS-kernel support, 
rpc.lockd is not run on my system and umount thinks it should be running. I 
think this may be part of the problem because it looks like umountnfs.sh 
tries to remove a PID (for rpc.lockd?).

I am running /devfs. This could also be part of the problem as it is stopped 
(S19devfsd) before umountnfs.sh is run.

System information
==
Debian Woody with Linux 2.4.20 (i686)
libc6 Version: 2.2.5-11.5
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Mysql --with-innodb

2003-09-03 Thread Evgeny Boksha
hi2all

does Mysql in .deb pacet in stable debian woody 3.0.r1
compiled --with-innodb options?
thx2all

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MySql --with-innodb

2003-09-03 Thread Evgeny Boksha
hi2all

does Mysql in .deb packet in stable debian woody 3.0.r1
compiled --with-innodb options?

thx2all 


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Re: PPTPD server troubles

2003-09-03 Thread Rene Cunningham
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:28:50AM +0200, Mark Maas wrote:
> But something is wrong, I can ping the inside nic (eth0 or 192.168.8.5) and the 
> outside nic (eth1)
> but I cannot ping (or reach) any of the inside computers, for instance 192.168.8.50

You have a route for 192.168.8.5/32 on the PPTP client but do you have a
route for 192.168.8.0/24 aswell?

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Re: Mysql --with-innodb

2003-09-03 Thread Shyamal Prasad

"Evgeny" == Evgeny Boksha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Evgeny> hi2all does Mysql in .deb pacet in stable debian woody
Evgeny> 3.0.r1 compiled --with-innodb options?

I believe it does. From the Debian readme file:


* INNOBASE:
===
To enable innobase support take a look at the example configs in
/usr/share/doc/mysql-server/examples. You have to specify at least 
some of those variables. Take a look at /var/log/mysql/mysql.err and 
of course the docs.


I don't use MySQL much at all (PostreSQL is my poison) so that is all
I know about it.

Cheers!
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keep files up-to-date (mirror?)

2003-09-03 Thread francois mounier
Hi, 


I am using Debian woody 3.0r1 with the standard kernel (2.4.17-32)
I have setup an LVS load balancing httpd (apache) with php...this LVS
can connect to a Db (mysql) for the use of the intranet web site...

My problem is that, when I update the static content of the web site
on one of the webserver, I need it to be replicated on all the other
web server...i mean replication of the /var/www/...(only the modified
files).

I was thinking of a mirror site..
Do you knw which package I should use...
I ve checked a bit and I have found "only" mirror

But cant find any howto or any thread about itDoes anybody know
about this package and have some info for me..

Thanks
Francois


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Re: keep files up-to-date (mirror?)

2003-09-03 Thread Rus Foster
>
> I am using Debian woody 3.0r1 with the standard kernel (2.4.17-32)
> I have setup an LVS load balancing httpd (apache) with php...this LVS
> can connect to a Db (mysql) for the use of the intranet web site...
>
> My problem is that, when I update the static content of the web site
> on one of the webserver, I need it to be replicated on all the other
> web server...i mean replication of the /var/www/...(only the modified
> files).
>

Look at rsync. It will be perfect for this job

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RE: keep files up-to-date (mirror?)

2003-09-03 Thread Anand Raman
Rsync..
http://rsync.samba.org/ 

anand

-Original Message-
From: francois mounier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: keep files up-to-date (mirror?)

Hi, 


I am using Debian woody 3.0r1 with the standard kernel (2.4.17-32)
I have setup an LVS load balancing httpd (apache) with php...this LVS
can connect to a Db (mysql) for the use of the intranet web site...

My problem is that, when I update the static content of the web site
on one of the webserver, I need it to be replicated on all the other
web server...i mean replication of the /var/www/...(only the modified
files).

I was thinking of a mirror site..
Do you knw which package I should use...
I ve checked a bit and I have found "only" mirror

But cant find any howto or any thread about itDoes anybody know
about this package and have some info for me..

Thanks
Francois


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Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Eicke
Hi folks,

I have a machine with 6Gb of memory. I installed the last version of Debian
and linux kernel 2.4.21.
I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version
1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but the
following error occurs:
Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.
Then I test another application all_align.pl (perl script text executable),
and when the script reach 3.0 Gb the following error occours:
out of memory

In the first case I think is a software problem but in the second I guess
there is something in Operating System or Kernel configuration. I ran as
root and as common user in both cases.


Could you help me ?
Regards.
Eicke.


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Re: Cd manufactor

2003-09-03 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:33:22AM -0400, Johann Koenig wrote:
   > On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 09:05:47 +0100
   > Carlos Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   > 
   > > > If your looking to find out about the actual cd / cd-rw (the little
   > > > round thing), I don't think that it is possible. I do not believe
   > > > that manufacturers stamp their name on the cd and/or that it is
   > > > possible to read that kind of data.
   > > 
   > > cdrecord -v reveals the CD media manufacturer code, so it seems it
   > > really is stamped on the media.
   > 
   > Interesting, I did not know that. Thanks.

As per the help page,

   -verbose,-v increment general verbose level by one

But, you can use this to get all the necessary info, including the
quality, of the media:

   cdrecord -atip

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IDE hard drive failure

2003-09-03 Thread Paladin
Hi,

One of my drives (the least important, thank God!) failled recently.
Since I can't afford taking it to some company that recovers data I
was thinking of using software to try to recover the best I could.
I found a very good program named my_rescue that does some of the dd
work, but if it founds a bad cluster skips it a continues to get the
rest of the data. It also saves the status of it's work so you can
try at a latter time to recover that data that you didn't get the
first time. The problem now is that BIOS doesn't always recognize
the drive. :/
And that brings me to the question:

Do you know of any program that allows access to a drive bypassing
the BIOS?

BTW, would you recommend RAID5 using an entire disk and two
partitions of another? (If it's even possible to do that...)


Thanks everyone,

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Re: XFree86 Version 4.3.0 Configuration- No DFP detected

2003-09-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:54:17 +0900, 
Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> * Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030902 17:23]:
> 
> > Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 
> > > Ok, X could not find your mouse. There seems to be no /dev/psaux.
> > 
> > ...nor /dev/gpmdata
> 
> Actually the log XF86Config-4 was set up to look for /dev/psaux. There
> was nothing in the log/config file that indicated anything about
> /dev/gpmdata.

..correct, using /dev/gpmdata is an _alternate_ method.

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Re: Keyboard detection failure during installation of debian unstable.

2003-09-03 Thread Paul Galbraith
This is a bug in the unstable snapshot.  See this message:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200308/msg00478.html

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Yeatman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Harley Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Keyboard detection failure during installation of debian
unstable.


> It's been awhile since I've done a Debian install so I'm not sure what
> you mean by "trying to detect the keyboard layout" but I'd certainly
> give a generic keyboard choice, ie. 104 key keyboard, a try.
>
> Paul
>
> ->>In response to your message<<-
>   --received from Harley Peters--
> >
> > I am new to debian and have been trying to install the unstable version.
> > But everytime i try i get the following error when trying to detect the
> > keyboard layout.
> >
> > Segmentation fault kbd-chooser's postinst exited with the status 35584.
> >
> > There is nothing special about my keyboard and i also tried another
> > keyboard (both PS2) with the same results.
> >
> > This doesn't happen with Woody but i would rather try the unstable Sid
> > version.
> >
> > Motherboard = MSI k7t266 pro2 (Via kt266a chipset)
> >
> > Tried both a Microsoft and Acer keyboards.
> >
> > Harley
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Nagios on Debian

2003-09-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:48:40 -0700, 
"Jeremy T. Bouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> top posted in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Nagios itself is necessary... Also I've worked out the dependencies so
> that Nagios can be setup in a distributed fashion as documented in the
> Nagios docs where you only need the central server to have a web
> server installed... It didn't make sense to have it "recommend" the
> plugins but "depend" on the web server which meant you couldn't
> install nagios as a probe-only server with no web interface and
> installing Nagios without the plugins doesn't make much sense at
> all...

.."a web server" == "an Apache webserver"?  There are _several_ out 
there, even some lightweight...

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Re: verifying a Debian package

2003-09-03 Thread David Z Maze
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Many files within many debian packages _do_ have MD5 sums.  The
> debsums package allows you to validate installed files against an
> md5sum database.  Think through what it is you're trusting when you
> do this.

I've found debsums very useful in recovering from hardware corruption;
it gives me a list of packages where things on the hard drive are
missing or not what's expected.  I wouldn't trust it for trying to
recover a cracked machine, though (it's easy enough for a rootkit to
regenerate the md5sum files if it wants to).

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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Eicke
I forgot to say that in both cases there were 5.5 Gb of free Memory.

- Original Message -
From: "Eicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Memory


> Hi folks,
>
> I have a machine with 6Gb of memory. I installed the last version of
Debian
> and linux kernel 2.4.21.
> I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
version
> 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but the
> following error occurs:
> Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
> I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.
> Then I test another application all_align.pl (perl script text
executable),
> and when the script reach 3.0 Gb the following error occours:
> out of memory
>
> In the first case I think is a software problem but in the second I guess
> there is something in Operating System or Kernel configuration. I ran as
> root and as common user in both cases.
>
>
> Could you help me ?
> Regards.
> Eicke.
>
>
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Re: IDE hard drive failure

2003-09-03 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 16:39, Paladin wrote:
> Do you know of any program that allows access to a drive bypassing
> the BIOS?

You can try to disable the drive in the BIOS, the Linux kernel ignores those 
settings anyway. Chances are though that this won't improve the situation.

> BTW, would you recommend RAID5 using an entire disk and two
> partitions of another? (If it's even possible to do that...)

This kind of defeats the prupose of RAID5, but it is certainly possible using 
the kernel's software RAID feature. Failure of the disk with the two 
partitions on it will kill *all your data* because in a RAID5 array only one 
disk may fail.

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Re: libc.so.6

2003-09-03 Thread Mental Patient
Philip Clark wrote:

Hi there,

I have managed to delete /lib/libc.so.6 and since the whole system
depends on it eg. I can't even create a new link or new file. Also
booting from a boot disk doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas? I am
presuming a rescue disk is the way to go. How do I make one?
 

Last time I did that I wound up booting off a knoppix cd, mounting the 
root partition and unpacking a deb of libc by hand.

You can unpack a deb file with ar. Just run "ar x ". You'll 
wind up with 3 files. control.tar.gz (control/install scripts) 
data.tar.gz (what you want to unpack in your root partition to get libc 
back) and debian-binary (text file).

After rebooting I did an apt-get --reinstall install libc6 just to make 
sure everything was back the way it was supposed to be.  It worked for 
me, good luck.

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Re: Nagios on Debian

2003-09-03 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:55:53PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:48:40 -0700, 
> "Jeremy T. Bouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> top posted in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Nagios itself is necessary... Also I've worked out the dependencies so
> > that Nagios can be setup in a distributed fashion as documented in the
> > Nagios docs where you only need the central server to have a web
> > server installed... It didn't make sense to have it "recommend" the
> > plugins but "depend" on the web server which meant you couldn't
> > install nagios as a probe-only server with no web interface and
> > installing Nagios without the plugins doesn't make much sense at
> > all...
> 
> .."a web server" == "an Apache webserver"?  There are _several_ out 
> there, even some lightweight...
>

Well it's put as "apache | apache-ssl | httpd" which should
allow any web server package to be used however the packaging at this
time only knows how to try and configure itself to run on apache or
apache-ssl...

By changing debian/control so that it "Suggests" the web server
rather than depends on it you could setup a distributed monitoring
system with Nagios as listed on the Nagios documentation[1]. Also it
made more sense to change the "Depends" to "nagios-plugins |
netsaint-plugins (>= 1.2.9.4-7)" rather than as a "Suggests" or
"Recommends" as Nagios doesn't make much sense without them... 

Regards,
Jeremy

[1]http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/1_0/distributed.html 

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Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread jserrachinha
if i login with ROOT (UPPERCASE in ttyx)
and password, the chars are all in uppercase.
Is this a feature!?
Tanks.



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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread jserrachinha
Eicke wrote:

I forgot to say that in both cases there were 5.5 Gb of free Memory.

- Original Message -
From: "Eicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Memory
 

Hi folks,

I have a machine with 6Gb of memory. I installed the last version of
   

Debian
 

and linux kernel 2.4.21.
I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
   

version
 

1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but the
following error occurs:
Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.
Then I test another application all_align.pl (perl script text
   

executable),
 

and when the script reach 3.0 Gb the following error occours:
out of memory
In the first case I think is a software problem but in the second I guess
there is something in Operating System or Kernel configuration. I ran as
root and as common user in both cases.
Could you help me ?
Regards.
Eicke.
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I'm using Debian sid 2.4.21-5
Since the last upgrade (today), the same is happen to me.
# tar xvf linux-2.6.0-test4
in another term
# procinfo -Dn1
All the memory is gone in few seconds!!


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Re: Voodoo Graphics still supported?

2003-09-03 Thread Mental Patient
Russell Shaw wrote:

markus koller wrote:

Hi,
I've got an old Voodoo1 (Diamond Monster 3D) and I'd like to use it
with X4.2. It worked without problems with X3.3 and Mesa, but I can't
figure out how to get it to work again. I googled around a bit, and
got only more confused, so I thought maybe I'd find help here.


XFree86 -configure
will generate a config file with available options.

Actually, no it wont. It'll generate a config file for the 2d card. The 
voodoo1/2 cards were 3d only passthrough pci cards completely unrelated 
to drawing the desktop. In fact IIRC, there was no IRQ or interrupt or 
anything other than a memory address that showed up indicating the 
card's presence.

Its been AGES since I used one, but when I did I think I used it on 
console with glide/mesa compiled for svgalib.

I'm not even sure the voodoo1/2 were ever properly supported in X. Then 
again at the time the only real thing to run on them was quake/quake2 
which (at the time) were written using svgalib for mouse/keyboard input.

The only thing I can really say is look for an older howto. You may very 
well need to do some digging. If I had to hazard a guess I'd imagine 
that maybe when X was upgraded, mesa also was upgraded and is no longer 
compiled with glide suppport?

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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Gary Hennigan
Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a machine with 6Gb of memory. I installed the last version of Debian
> and linux kernel 2.4.21.
> I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version
> 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but the
> following error occurs:
> Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
> I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.
> Then I test another application all_align.pl (perl script text executable),
> and when the script reach 3.0 Gb the following error occours:
> out of memory
>
> In the first case I think is a software problem but in the second I guess
> there is something in Operating System or Kernel configuration. I ran as
> root and as common user in both cases.

In general you're not going to be able to allocate more than 2GB of
RAM on a 32-bit system like the Pentium. While Intel played some
tricks with the hardware and actually implemented a 36-bit address bus
(I think it's 36 bits anyway), applications generally use 32-bit
pointers on a 32-bit CPU and they're assumed to be signed so that
limits you to 2^31 bytes of memory, or 2048MB (2GB). What the 6GB of
RAM buys you is that you could run 3 separate processes each using 2GB
of RAM and never hit your swap space, but a single application can't
use more than 2GB at a time, in general.

There may be low-level things in the kernel that would allow you to
use more than 2GB of RAM, but I'm not familiar with them and it
certainly wouldn't be portable.

If you need an application to have access to more than 2GB of RAM then
you need to get a 64-bit system like an Alpha, Sparc or Itanium.

Gary


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Re: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread David Z Maze
jserrachinha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> if i login with ROOT (UPPERCASE in ttyx)
> and password, the chars are all in uppercase.
> Is this a feature!?

Yes.  I don't remember what exactly it's intended to correct against,
but I can try to log in as DMAZE (with the normal
mixed-case-and-symbols password) and get an all-uppercase display.
Color ls doesn't seem to work here (directory names show up in
black-on-black, not blue-on-black).  Running 'reset' brings the world
back to normal.

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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Eicke
Everything occours with the following environment:

Mem:   6082588K total,   679752K used,  5402836K free

> and when the script reach 3.0 Gb the following error occours:
> out of memory

 >I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
>version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but
the
>following error occurs:
>Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
>I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.

If the system has 5402836K of free memory Why it crash?
Regards.
Eicke.

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From: "john" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Eicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Memory


> You need at least 9Gb of memory to run Debian :-)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:12 AM
> Subject: Memory
>
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I have a machine with 6Gb of memory. I installed the last version of
> Debian
> > and linux kernel 2.4.21.
> > I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
> version
> > 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but the
> > following error occurs:
> > Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
> > I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.
> > Then I test another application all_align.pl (perl script text
> executable),
> >
> > In the first case I think is a software problem but in the second I
guess
> > there is something in Operating System or Kernel configuration. I ran as
> > root and as common user in both cases.
> >
> >
> > Could you help me ?
> > Regards.
> > Eicke.
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-03 Thread csj
At Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:41:05 +1000 ,
Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> 
> 
> > Uh, no, what's keeping Linux away from the desktop is the
> > lack of APPLICATIONS.  Joe Public couldn't care less about X,
> > or anything else, as long as it works.  The idiot gamers
> > aside, X is plenty for what Joe Public needs in a graphical
> > environment as long as he can move windows around and open
> > and close them when he needs to.
> 
> Computer games have consistantly pushed harware and programming
> to the limit.  There have been computer games for as long as
> there have been computers.
> 
> Idiot gamers ?  How rude.

Idiocy has been known to test the limits of a system ;-).


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Jabber Client can't register

2003-09-03 Thread Tim Grogan
Hello all,

I've just installed Jabber 1.4.2 and the server seems to be working but I
can't register/connect.  I've read the thread bout making sure
mod_auth_plain is loaded and I think it is (see part of jabber.xml)  I'm
sure it's something I've overlooked.  For info I'm running Debian 2.4.20
and have the files in /usr/local/jabber with root as the owner.

Thanks

Tim


 
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
   ./jsm/jsm.so
 


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Re: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:45:31PM +0100, jserrachinha wrote:
> if i login with ROOT (UPPERCASE in ttyx)
> and password, the chars are all in uppercase.
> Is this a feature!?

I think I read somewhere that this is something left over from UNIX.

Rudy
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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 11:05, Gary Hennigan wrote:
> Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have a machine with 6Gb of memory. I installed the last version of Debian
> > and linux kernel 2.4.21.
> > I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version
> > 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but the
> > following error occurs:
> > Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
> > I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.
> > Then I test another application all_align.pl (perl script text executable),
> > and when the script reach 3.0 Gb the following error occours:
> > out of memory
> >
> > In the first case I think is a software problem but in the second I guess
> > there is something in Operating System or Kernel configuration. I ran as
> > root and as common user in both cases.
> 
> In general you're not going to be able to allocate more than 2GB of
> RAM on a 32-bit system like the Pentium. While Intel played some
> tricks with the hardware and actually implemented a 36-bit address bus
> (I think it's 36 bits anyway), applications generally use 32-bit
> pointers on a 32-bit CPU and they're assumed to be signed so that
> limits you to 2^31 bytes of memory, or 2048MB (2GB). What the 6GB of
> RAM buys you is that you could run 3 separate processes each using 2GB
> of RAM and never hit your swap space, but a single application can't
> use more than 2GB at a time, in general.
> 
> There may be low-level things in the kernel that would allow you to
> use more than 2GB of RAM, but I'm not familiar with them and it
> certainly wouldn't be portable.
> 
> If you need an application to have access to more than 2GB of RAM then
> you need to get a 64-bit system like an Alpha, Sparc or Itanium.

I get the impression, though, that these are existing apps, that
only broke after upgrade to .21.

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RE: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread Pim Bliek | PingWings
>> if i login with ROOT (UPPERCASE in ttyx)
>> and password, the chars are all in uppercase.
>> Is this a feature!?
>
>I think I read somewhere that this is something left over from UNIX.

Sh! SCO might think this is *proof*!

LOL :P

Pim


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Re: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:58:15PM +0200, Rudy Gevaert wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:45:31PM +0100, jserrachinha wrote:
> > if i login with ROOT (UPPERCASE in ttyx)
> > and password, the chars are all in uppercase.
> > Is this a feature!?
> 
> I think I read somewhere that this is something left over from UNIX.

Once upon a time, long, long ago, there were character terminals that
knew *only* uppercase. They were not able to display lowercase. If there
were no lower case letters in your login, the system assumed that you
were on one of those terminals.

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Re: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:45:31PM +0100, jserrachinha wrote:
> if i login with ROOT (UPPERCASE in ttyx)
> and password, the chars are all in uppercase.
> Is this a feature!?

Yes, it is. It's a historical relic of very old terminals which only had
upper-case alphabetical characters. See, for instance:

  http://www.cs.rit.edu/~hpb/Man/_Man_SunOS_4.1.3_html/html8/getty.8.html

If you find yourself logged in this way and don't want to log out and
back in with a lower-case username to fix it, type:

  stty -lcase

(Of course, it'll appear as 'STTY -LCASE' while you're typing it.)

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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Eicke
Hi Gary I appreciate your response.
My machine is a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz 64-bit.
Should be happens the errors anyway?

Regards.
Eicke.
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From: "Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Memory


> Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have a machine with 6Gb of memory. I installed the last version of
Debian
> > and linux kernel 2.4.21.
> > I am trying to run the cap3 (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
version
> > 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped), but the
> > following error occurs:
> > Ran out of memory: -874931512 bytes requested
> > I monitored and when the software reach 1.9 Gb the error occours.
> > Then I test another application all_align.pl (perl script text
executable),
> > and when the script reach 3.0 Gb the following error occours:
> > out of memory
> >
> > In the first case I think is a software problem but in the second I
guess
> > there is something in Operating System or Kernel configuration. I ran as
> > root and as common user in both cases.
>
> In general you're not going to be able to allocate more than 2GB of
> RAM on a 32-bit system like the Pentium. While Intel played some
> tricks with the hardware and actually implemented a 36-bit address bus
> (I think it's 36 bits anyway), applications generally use 32-bit
> pointers on a 32-bit CPU and they're assumed to be signed so that
> limits you to 2^31 bytes of memory, or 2048MB (2GB). What the 6GB of
> RAM buys you is that you could run 3 separate processes each using 2GB
> of RAM and never hit your swap space, but a single application can't
> use more than 2GB at a time, in general.
>
> There may be low-level things in the kernel that would allow you to
> use more than 2GB of RAM, but I'm not familiar with them and it
> certainly wouldn't be portable.
>
> If you need an application to have access to more than 2GB of RAM then
> you need to get a 64-bit system like an Alpha, Sparc or Itanium.
>
> Gary
>
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Re: Voodoo Graphics still supported?

2003-09-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:12, markus koller wrote:
> Hi,
> I've got an old Voodoo1 (Diamond Monster 3D) and I'd like to use it
> with X4.2. It worked without problems with X3.3 and Mesa, but I can't
> figure out how to get it to work again. I googled around a bit, and
> got only more confused, so I thought maybe I'd find help here.
> 
> So can anybody tell me:
> 
> 1. Which packages do I need to have installed?
> 
> 2. Is it possible to use the original Mesa library (which I think still
>supports the V1) with X instead of xlibmesa?
> 
> 3. I found out that the debian libglide2-package doesn't support the V1
>anymore, but I could compile my own version which would include this
>support. Is this right? And would I have to recompile Mesa, too?
> 
> 4. Does the glide driver from X4.2 support 3D acceleration? I read the
>manpage and it seems like this is a 2D-only driver.
> 
> 5. Has anybody got his V1 working with X4.2 or is it impossible?
> 
> 
> I'd appreciate it if anybody could give me some hints.

Module is called == tdfx

For Three Dee eFf eX.

It is just fine with OpenGL.

I have one acting as a secondary monitor. Works really cool.


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Re: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread John Hasler
David Maze writes:
> I don't remember what exactly it's intended to correct against

It's for compatibility with single-case terminals.
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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Gary Hennigan
Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi Gary I appreciate your response.
> My machine is a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz 64-bit.
> Should be happens the errors anyway?

Clear up some things for us Eicke. First, I may be behind on my Intel
marketing, but aren't the Xeon line of processors just good ole
Pentium 4's (32-bit) with extra cache? Is Intel marketing the Itanium
(64-bit) under the Xeon name?

Second, did these applications ever work under Linux on your system?

If indeed Intel is selling 64-bit Xeons(TM) using Itanium processors
then I'll have to pass on answering your questions as I have no
experience with Linux on the Itanium processor. My no-experience guess
would be that you'd need to compile the kernel with Itanium support,
which I don't see as an option in my 2.4.21 kernel configuration, and
install 64-bit Itanium versions of the applications you're trying to
use.

Gary


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..dead ext3 journals, was: Nagios on Debian

2003-09-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:22:22 -0700, 
"Jeremy T. Bouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:55:53PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:48:40 -0700, 
> > "Jeremy T. Bouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> top posted in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > Nagios itself is necessary... Also I've worked out the
> > > dependencies so that Nagios can be setup in a distributed fashion
> > > as documented in the Nagios docs where you only need the central
> > > server to have a web server installed... It didn't make sense to
> > > have it "recommend" the plugins but "depend" on the web server
> > > which meant you couldn't install nagios as a probe-only server
> > > with no web interface and installing Nagios without the plugins
> > > doesn't make much sense at all...
> > 
> > .."a web server" == "an Apache webserver"?  There are _several_ out 
> > there, even some lightweight...
> >
> 
>   Well it's put as "apache | apache-ssl | httpd" which should
> allow any web server package to be used however the packaging at this
> time only knows how to try and configure itself to run on apache or
> apache-ssl...

..ah, so with boa or monkey webservers I just have to figure out 
config stuff myself.  ;-)

>   By changing debian/control so that it "Suggests" the web server
> rather than depends on it you could setup a distributed monitoring
> system with Nagios as listed on the Nagios documentation[1]. Also it
> made more sense to change the "Depends" to "nagios-plugins |
> netsaint-plugins (>= 1.2.9.4-7)" rather than as a "Suggests" or
> "Recommends" as Nagios doesn't make much sense without them... 
> 
>   Regards,
>   Jeremy
> 
> [1]http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/1_0/distributed.html 

..thanks, while I got your attention:  there _are_ ways to monitor 
ext3 and other journalling fs'es for journalling failures?  Had a 
few ext3 go ro on /var and /home and trigging a kernel panic is 
usually overkill, especially on raid-1, I would have expected the 
"journal demon" bail out the "bad disk" and do fsck and restart 
the journal and resync etc, but with Red Hat 7.3-9 and Debian, it's 
"at best" "errors=remount-ro".

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Re: IDE hard drive failure

2003-09-03 Thread paul
Paladin declaimed:
> Hi,
> 
> One of my drives (the least important, thank God!) failled recently.
> Since I can't afford taking it to some company that recovers data I
> was thinking of using software to try to recover the best I could.
> I found a very good program named my_rescue that does some of the dd
> work, but if it founds a bad cluster skips it a continues to get the
> rest of the data. It also saves the status of it's work so you can
> try at a latter time to recover that data that you didn't get the
> first time. The problem now is that BIOS doesn't always recognize
> the drive. :/
> And that brings me to the question:
> 
> Do you know of any program that allows access to a drive bypassing
> the BIOS?
> 
> BTW, would you recommend RAID5 using an entire disk and two
> partitions of another? (If it's even possible to do that...)
> 
Putting on my "ten years of experience working for a backup software
company" hat, here's my take:

1. If the BIOS doesn't always recognize the drive, then you have one of
three problems: bad BIOS, bad cable, bad drive. Since the drive has
already failed once, you're pretty sure it's the third reason. Try
swapping/re-seating the cables or reconfiguring the master/slave
relation on your IDE bus. If the problem persists then it's time to
start using that drive for a doorstop, bookend, or other purpose
suitable to its proven reliabilty.

2. No inherent problems with using RAID 5 as you describe, but if the
performance and reliability benefit gained by using a RAID is worth the
extra work setting it up and recovering when things really go wrong,
then it should be worth plunking down a few hundred $ for two brand new
identical high-performance, high reliability drives. Unless you just
want to set up a RAID for the practice, of course.

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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread David Z Maze
"Eicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Gary I appreciate your response.
> My machine is a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz 64-bit.

What does this mean?  I thought "Xeon" was Intel's brand name for
"server-grade Pentium", which still implies a 32-bit ISA and a 36-bit
physical memory address.  Maybe you mean that there's a 64-bit
physical memory address?  This would make it possible for the kernel
to see up to 2^64 bytes of RAM, but applications internally still only
have the 32-bit addresses.

> From: "Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> In general you're not going to be able to allocate more than 2GB of
>> RAM on a 32-bit system like the Pentium. While Intel played some
>> tricks with the hardware and actually implemented a 36-bit address bus
>> (I think it's 36 bits anyway), applications generally use 32-bit
>> pointers on a 32-bit CPU and they're assumed to be signed so that
>> limits you to 2^31 bytes of memory, or 2048MB (2GB).

I think the actual limitation here is the way the kernel partitions
the application address space; some memory needs to be reserved for
the program code, shared libraries, to interface to the kernel, and so
on.  This would bring about the 3 GB limit the OP is seeing.  It might
be possible to tweak the kernel (as in, modify the kernel source in
somewhat non-trivial ways) to get closer to 4 GB, but that 4 GB really
is a hard limit that you're not going to get around without a full
64-bit CPU.

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Libranet-2.7-classic -> Pure Debian/sid kde broken

2003-09-03 Thread Bradley M Alexander
Ok, I ventured out in a new direction. My (nongeek) wife got tired of the
whole windows/virus/worm thing and asked me to put Linux on her machine. I
figured she would need a more "refined" user experience than I (who
prefers the heavy eye-candy of Enlightenment), so I went with KDE. A friend
of mine suggested I try Libranet, assuring me that I could go to straight
Debian after install, and raving about how nice the installer was (which I
agree with...Its a very nice installer).

So I got Libranet installed, copied /etc/apt/sources.list from one of my
sid boxes, apt-get updated and dist-upgraded to sid. So far so good.

The problem I'm having is that now when I log into this box, kde isn't
available. I did a dpkg -l grepping for kde, and had to install the
packages (which were in varying states of uninstalled) manually. Currently
I have the following packages installed but it still won't start kde (or
or even offer it in the gdm2 menu.

[proxima /home/storm]# dpkg -l | grep kde
ii  kdeartwork-mis 3.1.3-1various multimedia goodies released with
KDE
rc  kdeartwork-scr 3.0.3-1screen savers released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.1.3-1Dummy upgrade package for official KDE
deskt
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.1.3-1icon themes released with KDE
ii  kdebase-bin3.1.3-1KDE Base (binaries)
ii  kdebase-data   3.1.3-1KDE Base (shared data)
rc  kdebugdialog   3.0.3-1KDE Debug Settings
ii  kdeedu-data3.1.2-1shared data for KDE educational
applications
ii  kdelibs-bin3.1.3-1KDE core binaries
ii  kdelibs-data   3.1.3-1KDE core shared data
ii  kdelibs4   3.1.3-1KDE core libraries
ii  kdepasswd  3.1.3-1KDE password changer
ii  kdeprint   3.1.3-1KDE Print
ii  kdesktop   3.1.3-1KDE Desktop
ii  kdewallpapers  3.1.3-1wallpapers released with KDE
ii  libkdenetwork2 3.1.3-1KDE Network (common libraries)

What am I missing here?

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Re: how to broadcast web, if dsl modem block port 80

2003-09-03 Thread eric lin

thanks your reply
I let httpd.conf all back to port 80, and lease a static ip from qwest.net(my isp)
contact actiontec tech support, it ask me to change modem configuration at DMZ hosting 
to my local ip, 192.168.0.2

then I try my static ip again on the browzer, and it response time out

he also recommand me to upgrade dsl modem 1524's firmware from my current 1.60.10.0.50 
to 1.60.10.0.69

after I unzip the new firmware file, it generate

[EMAIL PROTECTED] recover]# ls
product.ini  R1520SU.bin  R1520SU.bmp  R1524SU-1.bin  R1524SU-1.bmp  R1524SU.bin  
R1524SU.bmp  recover.exe  recover.ini  ver.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] recover]# cat ver.txt
1.60.10.0.69-R1520SU
1.60.10.0.69-R1524SU-1
1.60.10.0.69-R1524SU
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does anyone know how to make this dos configureation file work in linux?

or succesful to use atciontec r1524 old firmware to broadcast web?
like to see your experience

sincere eric


--- Wolfgang Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 06:00:11 +0200, eric lin wrote:
>
>> Dear debian linux user:
>> 
>>   My isp qwest.net assigned dsl modem actiontec R1524SU, accord tech 
>> support said it use port 80, he said If I am going to broadcast website,
>>  I need to configure webserver to use other port and config modem to 
>> forward that port, so I use port 70
>> Listen 70
>> in httpd.conf
>> I tried http://(FQDN) or (public ip):70it reponse connection refused-if
>>  no appendix 70, then it show the modem 's configure page
>> 
>>  my apache test page still can be accessed by , http://localhost, 
>> http://127.0.0.1, or http://192.168.0.2(shown in my ifconfig)
>
>If this (and not http://localhost:70) is still possible, you have to
>restart apache. Changes in httpd.conf are used after restarting apache.
>> 
>> looking for any advanced advice
>> sincere eric, 
>> 
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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:54:58 -0600, 
"Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi Gary I appreciate your response.
> > My machine is a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz 64-bit.
> > Should be happens the errors anyway?
> 
> Clear up some things for us Eicke. First, I may be behind on my Intel
> marketing, but aren't the Xeon line of processors just good ole
> Pentium 4's (32-bit) with extra cache? Is Intel marketing the Itanium
> (64-bit) under the Xeon name?
> 
> Second, did these applications ever work under Linux on your system?
> 
> If indeed Intel is selling 64-bit Xeons(TM) using Itanium processors
> then I'll have to pass on answering your questions as I have no
> experience with Linux on the Itanium processor. My no-experience guess
> would be that you'd need to compile the kernel with Itanium support,
> which I don't see as an option in my 2.4.21 kernel configuration, and
> install 64-bit Itanium versions of the applications you're trying to
> use.

..I thought Intel dropped their 64bit Itanic???  (I only know it 
from the row raised by the Serious Con Operation lawsuit on IBM.)

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Re: Apache/DSL Modem/Port Forwarding

2003-09-03 Thread eric lin

thanks your reply again,

I went to portscan.com, check my httpd header, it response can not find, so I guess if 
I can not see my website powered by my own pc, it also can not be access by outsider.



--- Elizabeth Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>eric writes:
>
>> > If so, then you may be experiencing a problem related to your DSL
>> > modem.
>> 
>> welcome any softer soln so I can save a little money to rent static
>> ip.  actiontec tech support told me port 80 be used by that
>> dsl/router
>
>You mentioned Port Forwarding in your original email so if your DSL
>modem is capable of doing that then it may work.
>
>Keep in mind, however, that the reverse action from your side of the
>modem may not be what others see; it may be working but you can't see
>it. After you set up port forwarding on your DSL modem then you may
>want to ask a friend or someone with a different net IP address to try
>and report what he or she sees.
>
>Elizabeth

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Re: verifying a Debian package

2003-09-03 Thread Paul Yeatman
Ah, thanks so much!  I wasn't aware of 'debsums'.  Not having checked
it out yet, it sounds like what I am inquiring about.  I'm installing
it now.  I'm more interested in the corruption case than the hacker one
so I believe debsums is the answer.  Thanks to both of you for imputs.

Paul


->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Karsten M. Self--
>
> on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:20:40PM -0700, Paul Yeatman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Hi, just curious if anyone knows how to "verify" a package with
> > Debian.  This has proved to be useful with some Red Hat machines I
> > administer ("rpm {-V|--verify} ").  Such a command will
> > check that all the files and their attributes are as expected for that
> > package.  I've check the manual page for dpkg a few times but have
> > not come up with an equivalent command for Debian yet.
> 
> Debian packages aren't signed.  There are authentication requirements
> for uplaoding packages to distribution servers.
> 
> There are various reasons for this.  Joey Hess is probably closest to
> the authoritative source.
> 
> Many files within many debian packages _do_ have MD5 sums.  The debsums
> package allows you to validate installed files against an md5sum
> database.  Think through what it is you're trusting when you do this.
> 
> There's some interestign online discussion of this issue.  See:
> 
> FROM: Anthony Towns
> DATE: 04/04/2000 01:59:57
> SUBJECT:  Packages and Signatures, a summary
> http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/216/2000/4/1550/3549735/
> 
> Subject: Re: ITP: mini-dinstall -- daemon for updating Debian
> packages in a repository
> From: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:37:11 -0400
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200208/msg01172.html
> 
> Subject: Checking Signatures and Checksums
> From: Aurelio Turco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:18:08 +
> http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/user/2002/09/msg00339.html
> 
> There's also a debsig-verify package, which I just learned about
> researching this question ;-)
> 
> This is a FAQ, but I'm not coming up with a definitive answer at the
> Debian FAQ:  http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/
> 
> 
> Peace.
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Re: keep files up-to-date (mirror?)

2003-09-03 Thread Darik Horn
Also try the unison package.

It is based on rsync, but it works in both directions.

francois mounier wrote:

Hi, 

I am using Debian woody 3.0r1 with the standard kernel (2.4.17-32)
I have setup an LVS load balancing httpd (apache) with php...this LVS
can connect to a Db (mysql) for the use of the intranet web site...
My problem is that, when I update the static content of the web site
on one of the webserver, I need it to be replicated on all the other
web server...i mean replication of the /var/www/...(only the modified
files).
I was thinking of a mirror site..
Do you knw which package I should use...
I ve checked a bit and I have found "only" mirror
But cant find any howto or any thread about itDoes anybody know
about this package and have some info for me..
Thanks
Francois
 



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Re: Why ROOT all in uppercase

2003-09-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 18:35:28 +0200, 
"Pim Bliek | PingWings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >> if i login with ROOT (UPPERCASE in ttyx)
> >> and password, the chars are all in uppercase.
> >> Is this a feature!?
> >
> >I think I read somewhere that this is something left over from UNIX.
> 
> Sh! SCO might think this is *proof*!
> 
> LOL :P

..BUT IT IS!!! THEY EVEN BOUGHT IT FROM MICROSOFT!!!  ;-)

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Stopping promiscous mode

2003-09-03 Thread Rus Foster
Hi All,
Beyond running ifconfig eth0 -promisc is there anyway to stop eth0 doing
into promiscous mode?

Cheers

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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Eicke
Sorry!
I was wrong. My processor is Xeon 32 bits.
Regards.
- Original Message -
From: "Arnt Karlsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Memory


> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:54:58 -0600,
> "Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Hi Gary I appreciate your response.
> > > My machine is a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz 64-bit.
> > > Should be happens the errors anyway?
> >
> > Clear up some things for us Eicke. First, I may be behind on my Intel
> > marketing, but aren't the Xeon line of processors just good ole
> > Pentium 4's (32-bit) with extra cache? Is Intel marketing the Itanium
> > (64-bit) under the Xeon name?
> >
> > Second, did these applications ever work under Linux on your system?
> >
> > If indeed Intel is selling 64-bit Xeons(TM) using Itanium processors
> > then I'll have to pass on answering your questions as I have no
> > experience with Linux on the Itanium processor. My no-experience guess
> > would be that you'd need to compile the kernel with Itanium support,
> > which I don't see as an option in my 2.4.21 kernel configuration, and
> > install 64-bit Itanium versions of the applications you're trying to
> > use.
>
> ..I thought Intel dropped their 64bit Itanic???  (I only know it
> from the row raised by the Serious Con Operation lawsuit on IBM.)
>
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>   best case, worst case, and just in case.
>
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Re: ..dead ext3 journals, was: Nagios on Debian

2003-09-03 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 07:00:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:22:22 -0700, 
> "Jeremy T. Bouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:55:53PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:48:40 -0700, 
> > > "Jeremy T. Bouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> top posted in message 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 
> > > > Nagios itself is necessary... Also I've worked out the
> > > > dependencies so that Nagios can be setup in a distributed fashion
> > > > as documented in the Nagios docs where you only need the central
> > > > server to have a web server installed... It didn't make sense to
> > > > have it "recommend" the plugins but "depend" on the web server
> > > > which meant you couldn't install nagios as a probe-only server
> > > > with no web interface and installing Nagios without the plugins
> > > > doesn't make much sense at all...
> > > 
> > > .."a web server" == "an Apache webserver"?  There are _several_ out 
> > > there, even some lightweight...
> > >
> > 
> > Well it's put as "apache | apache-ssl | httpd" which should
> > allow any web server package to be used however the packaging at this
> > time only knows how to try and configure itself to run on apache or
> > apache-ssl...
> 
> ..ah, so with boa or monkey webservers I just have to figure out 
> config stuff myself.  ;-)
>
Well I'm not the official Nagios maintainer I'm just working on
a NMU for it to get the plugins package working since maintainer hasn't
had time to work on it... I also don't run boa or monkey webservers so
I'm the last person you'd want trying to figure out the config stuff :)
 
> > By changing debian/control so that it "Suggests" the web server
> > rather than depends on it you could setup a distributed monitoring
> > system with Nagios as listed on the Nagios documentation[1]. Also it
> > made more sense to change the "Depends" to "nagios-plugins |
> > netsaint-plugins (>= 1.2.9.4-7)" rather than as a "Suggests" or
> > "Recommends" as Nagios doesn't make much sense without them... 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Jeremy
> > 
> > [1]http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/1_0/distributed.html 
> 
> ..thanks, while I got your attention:  there _are_ ways to monitor 
> ext3 and other journalling fs'es for journalling failures?  Had a 
> few ext3 go ro on /var and /home and trigging a kernel panic is 
> usually overkill, especially on raid-1, I would have expected the 
> "journal demon" bail out the "bad disk" and do fsck and restart 
> the journal and resync etc, but with Red Hat 7.3-9 and Debian, it's 
> "at best" "errors=remount-ro".
>
This could be handled by Nagios in theory... I'm not aware of
any plugin at this time that checks journal status but I'm sure one
could be written and with the assistance of a properly written event
handler script auto-correct the solution... In the production systems
I'm runing Nagios in we have some event handlers which restart hung
processes before they cause problems... 

Regards,
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Re: Newbie Hardware/Partitioning

2003-09-03 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:19:57PM -0400, Hershel Robinson wrote:
> > >I have a new machine on order. The more interesting items are:
> > >
> > >Mobo: Gigabyte 7VA KT400 + Sound/AGP8X/DDR400
> > >AMD Athlon XP 2000Mhz
> > >ATI Radeon 7500 64B/Dual Head
> > >UDMA 40Gig 7200RPM
> > >
> > >My first question is will I have any difficulty with these
> > hardware pieces?
> > >
> > You will probably have problems getting X to work if you just
> > use woody,
> > try Sarge (testing) which has a newer version of Xfree and a recent
> > stable kernel 2.4.20 or higher.
> 
> Any further thoughts on this? This is to be my first Debian install. Should
> I indeed use Sarge for the Xfree version?

I use Woody with a backported X 4.3.0. My Radeon 7500 works fine. I
haven't tried it with the standard woody X though.

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Re: libc.so.6

2003-09-03 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:30:59AM -0700, Philip Clark wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I have managed to delete /lib/libc.so.6 and since the whole system
> depends on it eg. I can't even create a new link or new file. Also
> booting from a boot disk doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas? I am
> presuming a rescue disk is the way to go. How do I make one?

You ought to be able to boot a Debian install CD and execute a shell
from that... libc.so.6 is just a symlink so you should then be able to
mount your hard disk and recreate the symlink. Or
'chroot /mnt /sbin/ldconfig'.

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Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-03 Thread Kevin C. Krinke
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 18:02, Neal Lippman wrote:
> I'm just wondering if anyone has any info on why X seems to need so much
> CPU power?

Nope, runs fine here and in production environments.

> Way back when, probably around 1996 or 1997, I first tried to install
> Linux. Back then, I tried distro's from Corel and Redhat. My system was
> a Pentium 133 with 48 (and then 96) MB Ram. This system ran both Win 95
> and Win NT 4.0 reasonably well, but when I made the switch and installed
> Linux, any sort of desktop - eg Gnome or KDE, not a vanilla WM) was just
> so slow as to be unusable. Eventually I gave up for a while and went
> back to WinNT for some time.

I started with RH5.2, Gnome and a P75 w/ 16M of ram. I didn't notice any
"real" ('Reality is relative...') performance difference between win95
and RH5.2 so I stuck with it. (Well at least until I was shown the light
of Debian's Potato :)

> For the past 3 years or so, my workstation has been exclusively Linux,
> first Mandrake on a PIII-800, and for the last year, I've been hooked on
> Debian on an Athlon XP 1700+, and on both of those systems performance
> has been just fine, so I didn't really think about the troubles I
> originally had, and when I did, I figured I must have done something
> wrong on my first install attempts on the Pentium system.

I ran a P3-800 and now run an Athalon XP 1700+ and things have only
gotten better.

> A few months ago, I decided to put debian on my old Laptop, an IBM
> Thinkpad 770ED (PII-266, 64MB Ram). Once again, with KDE running, the
> desktop was so slow and unresponsive as to be really unusable (except in
> an xterm window). This is a system that has run Win95, Win98, and WinNT
> just fine over the years.

I have personally never gotten KDE to run "nice" at any point in my
computing history. Gnome 2.2 on the other hand runs very nicely on my
Celeron 266 Toshiba w/ 64Mb ram (now upgraded to 196M and man it runs
snappy-fast).

> So, my question is: Why does X seem to need so much more CPU power than
> windows - such that systems I have tried to use that worked fine with
> various windows flavors just were unusable with KDE loaded? I assume the
> problem isn't in Linux itself, since my old Pentium 133 was just fine
> with X not running, and enough people have attested to the ability of
> systems with Pentium processors running Linux without X being able to
> handle massive firewall, router, web server duties, etc. Maybe the
> problem is KDE and not X - but I had similar trouble with Gnome, so it
> isn't just a KDE issue.

> I'm just curious and wonder if anyone has any thoughts.
> 
> Thanks.
> nl

Here's a thought: Why does it seem that an orange takes more effort to
eat than a microwave dinner? The microwave dinner is so fast 'cause all
I do is throw it into the nuker, hit a preset and in no time my food's
ready, but that damnable orange just takes so much effort! And I know
it's not a problem with the orange peel 'cause I've tried different
types of oranges and it's still just as tiresome!

(Technically, the microwave dinner took more effort because someone had
to prefab the item first, then market it and sell it to the consumer.
The orange on the other hand didn't need manufacturing and instead only
needed harvesting etc.)

Now to complete the circle of dots...

Windows has it's GUI functions INSIDE the kernel itself, does not
partake in any extended functionality [that can rival XFree86]. Is very
much built for the primary purpose of looking good, and (possibly more
importantly), always looking (and feeling) as fast as possible. When you
want skin-deep responsiveness, _any_ version of windows is good enough.
Windows has baggage ("security" and "privacy" seem to me to be the top
issues amongst other things) that renders the benefits of speed useless
if not counter-productive ("...Look Ma! Outlook can send 6-Billion
emails per second with my new hardware and virii!...").

They have to look good, it's all they've got.

When you want a real solution; use the right tool for the right job. Use
GNU/Linux and all of it's feature-full baggage and do what I do; _Enjoy_
the [debatable] lag because it's FREE!

P.E.A.C.E.
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Chance ihres Einkommen zu Verbessern!!

2003-09-03 Thread Mcloni
>>Spezial für alle Empfänger/in<<  

Einige Wöchen her erhielte ich von jemand, eine Email. Darin wurde ich 
gefragt ob ich mein Lebensunterhalt durch das Internet verdienen. 
Natürlich nicht. Er schreibt:

"Er hatte gerade eine Überraschung erlebt, dass man viel Geld  
verdienen kann ohne fest mit einen Firma gebunden sein zu müssen." 

Da wurde ich Obgleich ich ähnliche email Anzeigen jeden Monat erhalte, 
diesmal überraschend nachdenklich. Meine Neugierde wurde geweckt.

Nach dem ich gesehen hatte das ich etwas unternehmen müssen, was mein / 
Familie-Leben verändern wurden, meldete ich mich an, ohne wenn und aber.

Heute bin ich froh, richtig entschieden zu haben. Nach nur vier(4)Moante, stehe 
ich finanziell besser da als viele meine Freunde. Es war keine leere 
gerede. Nur Neben bei,Zuhause als Hobby. Es funktioniert tatsächlich.

Wenn Sie ganz interessiert sind, schicken Sie eine blanko-email zu 
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<< mit nur "Send Info" im Betreff Linie.

Danke für Ihrer Zeit.

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Re: strace pppd: open("/dev/ttyS1", O_RDWR

2003-09-03 Thread Andrea Tasso
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 03:04:20PM +0300 or thereabouts, Shaul Karl wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:49:15AM +0200, Andrea Tasso wrote:
> > hi all,
> > pppd does not connect any more (to another pc with null modem cable), it used to 
> > work perfectly.
> > the command
> > 
> > pppd -detach debug crtscts 192.168.6.1:192.168.6.2 lock /dev/ttyS1 38400
> > 
> >  gives no output, and finally exits
> > 
> > if I strace it
> > 
> > the last string is
> > open("/dev/ttyS1", O_RDWR 
> > 
> > my libc version is 2.3.2-3
> > and ppp 2.4.1.uus-5
> > 
> 
> 
>   What is written in the log file? Are you trying to run it as root?
> -- 
> 
> Shaul Karl,shaulk @ actcom . net . il

nothing in the log file, I suppose at least (I checked many log in /var/log, the most 
common).
I run pppd as root.

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Sid CD fails as apt source

2003-09-03 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
I'm trying to use a sid iso image as a apt source.  I've successfully 
mounted it and added a file entry to sources.list as:

deb file:/mnt/iso/debian sid main

When I run apt-get update, apt reports it can't find Packages.gz:

Failed to fetch 
file:/mnt/iso/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  File not found

This isn't surprising though since Packages.gz on the iso is in the 
sid/main/binary-alpha directory instead of in sid/main/binary-i386 where 
apt expects it to be.

I could copy the image to my harddisk and rename the directory to 
binary-i386 but I shouldn't have to do this, should I?  I must be 
missing something simple here.

Thanks



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pwc webcam freeze: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

2003-09-03 Thread Niels L. Ellegaard

I have been trying to install a logitech 4000 webcam, but when I use
camstream the picture freezes after a short while and the following
line appears in /var/log/syslog
  
Sep  3 20:30:22 nissefisken kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

I would be very grateful for any advice on how to avoid this problem.

My computer is a x86 with a k7s5a board and Sarge and my own 2.4.21 
kernel (See below). 

Browsing around on Google it looks like my usb ports are getting
overburdened, so tried the closed source pwcx compressor module. This
modules helped a little, I was able to save 10 snapshots before the
timeout appeared, but in the end I still had a freeze.

The following data is from a test with no pwcx module

nissefisken# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: PF 
pwc44748   1  (autoclean)
usb-ohci   20040   0  (unused)
nvidia   1628576  11  (autoclean)
sis900 14412   0  (unused)
i810_audio 25756   2 
ac97_codec 11892   0  [i810_audio]
soundcore   4260   2  [i810_audio]
usbcore73036   0  [pwc usb-ohci]
i2c-proc7344   0  (unused)
i2c-core   13892   0  [i2c-proc]
parport_pc 13732   1  (autoclean)
lp  6592   1 
parport16096   1  [parport_pc lp]
8139too15912   1 
rtc 7464   0  (autoclean)


>From dmesg:

pwc Philips PCA645/646 + PCVC675/680/690 + PCVC730/740/750 webcam
module version 8.10 loaded.
pwc Also supports the Askey VC010, various Logitech Quickcams, Samsung 
MPC-C10 and MPC-C30,
pwc the Creative WebCam 5, SOTEC Afina Eye and Visionite VCS-UC300 and 
VCS-UM100.
usb.c: registered new driver Philips webcam
pwc Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro USB webcam detected.
pwc Registered as /dev/video0.
usb.c: Philips webcam driver claimed interface cf171920
usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout


>From /var/log/syslog

Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken kernel: pwc Philips PCA645/646 +
PCVC675/680/690 + PCVC730/740/750 webcam module version 8.10 loaded.
Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken kernel: pwc Also supports the Askey VC010, 
various Logitech Quickcams, Samsung MPC-C10 and MPC-C30,
Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken kernel: pwc the Creative WebCam 5, SOTEC
Afina Eye and Visionite VCS-UC300 and VCS-UM100.
Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken kernel: usb.c: registered new driver
Philips webcam
Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken kernel: pwc Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro USB 
webcam detected.
Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken kernel: pwc Registered as /dev/video0.
Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken kernel: usb.c: Philips webcam driver
claimed interface cf171920
Sep  3 20:30:16 nissefisken insmod: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more
recent than /lib/modules/2.4.21/modules.dep
Sep  3 20:30:22 nissefisken kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout


Output from camstream:

CCamWindow::CCamWindow()
CWebCamViewer::CWebCamViewer(0x80ab770, 0x0)
CVideoDevice::Init()
Using mmap(), VMBuf.size = 921600
Trying to find video options for Logitech QuickCam Pro
4000:/dev/video0
searching Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000
CSnapshotSettingsDlg::CSnapshotSettingsDlg(...)
QFont::setRawMode(): Invalid XLFD: "system"
CVideoSettingsDlg::SizeChanged(176x144)
CVideoSettingsDlg::FramerateChanged(10)
Philips webcam detected, enabling extensions
CCamPanel::SetSize(176x144)
CCamPanel::SetImageSize(176x144)
CCamPanel::SetVisibleSize(176x144)
CCamPanel::SetSize(176x144)
CCamPanel::SetImageSize(176x144)
CCamPanel::SetVisibleSize(176x144)
RecalcTotalViewSize: resize viewport(176x144)
EnableRGB: +
CVideoDevice::SetPalette picked palette 15 [yuv420p]
CVideoDevice::CreateImagesRGB()
 allocating space for RGB
CVideoDevice::StartCapture() go!

>From /etc/modules.conf

alias char-major-81  videodev
alias char-major-81-0pwc

# The following lines have been commented out
# options pwc size=vga leds=250,250 fps=25 mbufs=3 compression=0
# post-install pwc insmod --force -k 
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/usb/pwcx-2.4.20.o > /dev/null 2>&1 || : 


Random lines from my /usr/src/linux/.config
 
#
# USB support
#
CONFIG_USB=m
CONFIG_USB_DEBUG=y

#
# Miscellaneous USB options 
#
CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
# CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set

#
# USB Host Controller Drivers
#
CONFIG_USB_UHCI=m
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT=m
CONFIG_USB_OHCI=m

#
# USB Multimedia devices
#
# CONFIG_USB_IBMCAM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KONICAWC is not set
# CONFIG_USB_OV511 is not set   
CONFIG_USB_PWC=m
CONFIG_USB_SE401=m
# CONFIG_USB_STV680 is not set

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Re: kdemultimedia: dependent on several non-existent versions ???

2003-09-03 Thread Kevin C. Krinke
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:50, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:09:02:04:28:41-0700] scribed:
> > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:06:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> > > What am I missing?
> > 
> > The fact that this happens in unstable, hence the name.  If you don't
> > want this happening from time to time, avoid unstable and testing, use
> > frozen or stable instead.
> 
> Yes, I know that ;>
> 
> Sorry, to bother you; but, on the "off" chance that I overlooked
> something, I posted -- again, sorry to bother you . . .
> 
> I have several systems running kde v3.1x, and doing quite well, thank
> you.  Now, I install on a new laptop, and do not want the headaches of
> from woody kde, so I want to go straight from nothing to kde v3.1x, and
> it doesn't work!  I searched the archives, and found _nothing_ about
> this, and asked the list if I missed something . . .

If you're willing to use unstable to get KDE 3.1 maybe you'd be up to
using KDE CVS (3.2). My co-worker James maintains an apt repository for
Debian Unstable. All the details can be found at the following URL:

http://opendoorsoftware.com/cgi/http.pl?p=kdecvs

On the other hand, James tells me you could just wait a while for
kdemultimedia 3.1.3 to make it to Sid (as everyone else has mentioned
already) and "apt-get install kde-core" in the meantime.

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Re: pwc webcam freeze: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

2003-09-03 Thread Nicolas
> pwc44748   1  (autoclean)
> usb-ohci   20040   0  (unused)

The problem is right there, pwc and ohci don't realy like each other.  I have 
the same camera as you.  I used a OHCI computer with motion and it always 
stop after 5-10 minutes.  It's a known bug :o) look like nobody wants to fix 
it... On the other hand, it works perfectly with UHCI. I haven't try the 2.6 
kernel on the monitoring box, maybe OHCI is fixed...

Nic Cola

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eroaster not working.

2003-09-03 Thread ZekeVarg
Hi!
I'm trying to get eroaster to work.
When starting it from a shell I get this error message:

$ eroaster
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/eroaster", line 9, in ?
from main import Application
  File "/usr/local/lib/eroaster/main.py", line 31, in ?
from gtk import GtkVBox, GtkNotebook, GtkFrame, GtkLabel, GtkHBox,
GtkTable
  File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line
43, in ?
from _gtk import *
ImportError: /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol:
FT_Seek_Stream

I'm running sid and have tried both apt-get and manual install of
eroaster so it's not eroaster it self.
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Re: eroaster not working.

2003-09-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 15:26, ZekeVarg wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm trying to get eroaster to work.
> When starting it from a shell I get this error message:
> 
> $ eroaster
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/local/bin/eroaster", line 9, in ?
> from main import Application
>   File "/usr/local/lib/eroaster/main.py", line 31, in ?
> from gtk import GtkVBox, GtkNotebook, GtkFrame, GtkLabel, GtkHBox,
> GtkTable
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line
> 43, in ?
> from _gtk import *
> ImportError: /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol:
> FT_Seek_Stream
> 
> I'm running sid and have tried both apt-get and manual install of
> eroaster so it's not eroaster it self.
> Regards
> -- 
> ZekeVarg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So when was you last "dselect update" and "aptitude dist-upgrade" using internet 
sources?

Mainly, I just installed eroaster on a system I just built yesterday.

I did "apt-get install eroaster". here is the output:

<---Included Output--->
king:~# apt-get install eroaster
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  cdda2wav cdrecord libzvt2.0-0 mkisofs python-glade2 python-gnome2 python2.3-glade2 
python2.3-gnome2 python2.3-gtk2
  python2.3-numeric python2.3-pyorbit
Suggested packages:
  mpg321 normalize zinf freeamp
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gimp-python python-gtk
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cdda2wav cdrecord eroaster libzvt2.0-0 mkisofs python-glade2 python-gnome2 
python2.3-glade2 python2.3-gnome2 python2.3-gtk2
  python2.3-numeric python2.3-pyorbit
0 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 2312kB/2407kB of archives.
After unpacking 5542kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main cdda2wav 4:2.0+a16-2 [158kB]
Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main cdrecord 4:2.0+a16-2 [664kB]
Get:3 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main mkisofs 4:2.0+a16-2 [307kB]
Get:4 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main python2.3-gtk2 2.0.0-1 [426kB]
Get:5 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main python2.3-pyorbit 2.0.0-1 [58.9kB]
Get:6 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main libzvt2.0-0 2.0.1cvs20021009-4 [103kB]
Get:7 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main python2.3-gnome2 2.0.0-2 [198kB]
Get:8 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main python-gnome2 2.0.0-2 [13.9kB]
Get:9 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main python2.3-glade2 2.0.0-1 [75.8kB]
Get:10 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main python-glade2 2.0.0-1 [66.8kB]
Get:11 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main eroaster 2.2.0-0.5-6 [240kB]
Fetched 2312kB in 32s (70.1kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 57640 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing gimp-python ...
Removing python-gtk ...
Selecting previously deselected package cdda2wav.
(Reading database ... 57515 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking cdda2wav (from .../cdda2wav_4%3a2.0+a16-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package cdrecord.
Unpacking cdrecord (from .../cdrecord_4%3a2.0+a16-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package mkisofs.
Unpacking mkisofs (from .../mkisofs_4%3a2.0+a16-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python2.3-numeric.
Unpacking python2.3-numeric (from .../python2.3-numeric_23.0-7_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python2.3-gtk2.
Unpacking python2.3-gtk2 (from .../python2.3-gtk2_2.0.0-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python2.3-pyorbit.
Unpacking python2.3-pyorbit (from .../python2.3-pyorbit_2.0.0-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libzvt2.0-0.
Unpacking libzvt2.0-0 (from .../libzvt2.0-0_2.0.1cvs20021009-4_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python2.3-gnome2.
Unpacking python2.3-gnome2 (from .../python2.3-gnome2_2.0.0-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python-gnome2.
Unpacking python-gnome2 (from .../python-gnome2_2.0.0-2_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python2.3-glade2.
Unpacking python2.3-glade2 (from .../python2.3-glade2_2.0.0-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python-glade2.
Unpacking python-glade2 (from .../python-glade2_2.0.0-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package eroaster.
Unpacking eroaster (from .../eroaster_2.2.0-0.5-6_all.deb) ...
Setting up cron (3.0pl1-75) ...
Starting periodic command scheduler: cron.
stripping trailing /
chown: `*:crontab': invalid user
dpkg: error processing cron (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Setting up cdda2wav (2.0+a16-2) ...
Setting up cdrecord (2.0+a16-2) ...
 
Setting up mkisofs (2.0+a16-2) ...
Setting up python2.3-numeric (23.0-7) ...
 
Setting up python2.3-gtk2 (2.0.0-1) ...
 
Setting up python2.3-pyorbit (2.0.0-1) ...
 
Setting up libzvt2.0-0 (2.0.1cvs20021009-4) ...
 
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Re: Libranet-2.7-classic -> Pure Debian/sid kde broken

2003-09-03 Thread Luc Lefebvre
Hi Bradley,

I know that for Woody there is a meta package fore  kde called "kde" which 
Description: The K Desktop Environment
 A metapackage containing dependencies for the core suite of KDE including
 kdelibs, kdebase, kdeadmin, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim,
 koffice, and kdeutils.  Provides Suggests and Recommends for all other
 KDE based packages.

Making sure that all of these are installed might be useful.  Would it be possible to 
install "kde" from stable and the updating to unstable?...  Just a thought, but please 
keep me posted, I'm thinking of trying Libranet and the synching to Debian unstable so 
your experience is of interest to me.

Good luck...

On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:28:47PM -0400, Bradley M Alexander wrote:
> Ok, I ventured out in a new direction. My (nongeek) wife got tired of the
> whole windows/virus/worm thing and asked me to put Linux on her machine. I
> figured she would need a more "refined" user experience than I (who
> prefers the heavy eye-candy of Enlightenment), so I went with KDE. A friend
> of mine suggested I try Libranet, assuring me that I could go to straight
> Debian after install, and raving about how nice the installer was (which I
> agree with...Its a very nice installer).
> 
> So I got Libranet installed, copied /etc/apt/sources.list from one of my
> sid boxes, apt-get updated and dist-upgraded to sid. So far so good.
> 
> The problem I'm having is that now when I log into this box, kde isn't
> available. I did a dpkg -l grepping for kde, and had to install the
> packages (which were in varying states of uninstalled) manually. Currently
> I have the following packages installed but it still won't start kde (or
> or even offer it in the gdm2 menu.
> 
> [proxima /home/storm]# dpkg -l | grep kde
> ii  kdeartwork-mis 3.1.3-1various multimedia goodies released with
> KDE
> rc  kdeartwork-scr 3.0.3-1screen savers released with KDE
> ii  kdeartwork-the 3.1.3-1Dummy upgrade package for official KDE
> deskt
> ii  kdeartwork-the 3.1.3-1icon themes released with KDE
> ii  kdebase-bin3.1.3-1KDE Base (binaries)
> ii  kdebase-data   3.1.3-1KDE Base (shared data)
> rc  kdebugdialog   3.0.3-1KDE Debug Settings
> ii  kdeedu-data3.1.2-1shared data for KDE educational
> applications
> ii  kdelibs-bin3.1.3-1KDE core binaries
> ii  kdelibs-data   3.1.3-1KDE core shared data
> ii  kdelibs4   3.1.3-1KDE core libraries
> ii  kdepasswd  3.1.3-1KDE password changer
> ii  kdeprint   3.1.3-1KDE Print
> ii  kdesktop   3.1.3-1KDE Desktop
> ii  kdewallpapers  3.1.3-1wallpapers released with KDE
> ii  libkdenetwork2 3.1.3-1KDE Network (common libraries)
> 
> What am I missing here?
> 
> -- 
> --Brad
> 
> Bradley M. Alexander|
> gTLD SysAdmin, Security Engineer|   storm [at] tux.org
> 
> Key fingerprints:
> DSA 0x54434E65: 37F6 BCA6 621D 920C E02E  E3C8 73B2 C019 5443 4E65
> RSA 0xC3BCBA91: 3F 0E 26 C1 90 14 AD 0A  C8 9C F0 93 75 A0 01 34
> 
> Of all of the things I have lost, I think I miss my mind the most.

-- 
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In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities,
in the expert's mind there are few. 

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Re: lm-sensors

2003-09-03 Thread Menno
David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I believe unstable's make-kpkg has
> some support for building kernel modules given
I use stable, and there is some kind of support in it. According to the 
docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.modules is should do something 
like this:

make-kpkg --revision number kernel_image
make-kpkg modules_image
But it keeps complaining about version numbers and dependencies not being 
correct when I try to install the .deb file make-kpkg is producing (only 
installing the lm-sensors-..-.deb).

I suspect that I have to chage something in the Makefile of the 
kernel-source to get this right. Should line 4 look like EXTRAVERSION = 
-1-686 ???

> bug 189513 points at 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg01794.html,
> suggests doing this:

Yes, that helped me. In the end I did this, and I was able to installa the 
.deb file:

  cd /tmp
  dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686_2.4.18-11_i386.deb
  dpkg -i kernel-source-2.4.18_2.4.18-13_all.deb
  dpkg -i kernel-headers-2.4.18-1-686_2.4.18-11.deb
  dpkg -i lm-sensors-source-2.6.3-5.deb
  cd /usr/src
  tar xjf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.bz2
  tar xzf lm-sensors.tar.gz
  ln -s kernel-source-2.4.18 linux
  cd /usr/src/linux
  cp /boot/config-2.4.18-1-686 ./.config
  fakeroot debian/rules kdist_image \
 KSRC=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-1-686 \
 KVERS=2.4.18-1-686 KDREV=2.4.18-11
  cd /usr/src;ls -l

  -rw-r--r--  116612 Sep  3 21:10 
lm-sensors-2.4.18-1-686_2.6.3-5+2.4.18-11_i386.deb

  dpkg -i lm-sensors-2.4.18-1-686_2.6.3-5+2.4.18-11_i386.deb

Is this "standard procedure"? Do it again when kernel 2.4.18-14 is released?
Or, will this be easier in the next release of Debian (as in unstable?).
Thanks,
Menno.




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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 13:11, Eicke wrote:
> Sorry!
> I was wrong. My processor is Xeon 32 bits.

All Xeons are 32 bits.  The only 64 bit Intel CPUs are Itanium(-2).

> Regards.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arnt Karlsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Memory
> 
> 
> > On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:54:58 -0600,
> > "Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > Hi Gary I appreciate your response.
> > > > My machine is a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz 64-bit.
> > > > Should be happens the errors anyway?
> > >
> > > Clear up some things for us Eicke. First, I may be behind on my Intel
> > > marketing, but aren't the Xeon line of processors just good ole
> > > Pentium 4's (32-bit) with extra cache? Is Intel marketing the Itanium
> > > (64-bit) under the Xeon name?
> > >
> > > Second, did these applications ever work under Linux on your system?
> > >
> > > If indeed Intel is selling 64-bit Xeons(TM) using Itanium processors
> > > then I'll have to pass on answering your questions as I have no
> > > experience with Linux on the Itanium processor. My no-experience guess
> > > would be that you'd need to compile the kernel with Itanium support,
> > > which I don't see as an option in my 2.4.21 kernel configuration, and
> > > install 64-bit Itanium versions of the applications you're trying to
> > > use.
> >
> > ..I thought Intel dropped their 64bit Itanic???  (I only know it
> > from the row raised by the Serious Con Operation lawsuit on IBM.)


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Re: Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 13:01, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:54:58 -0600, 
> "Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Eicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> ..I thought Intel dropped their 64bit Itanic???  (I only know it 
> from the row raised by the Serious Con Operation lawsuit on IBM.)

What's the purpose of a 32 bit Itanium?  They already have the
P4 & Xeon, which runs rings around the Big I in everything except
floating point ops.

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proftp or wu-ftp?

2003-09-03 Thread Curtis Vaughan
I need to set up an ftp server.   I've looked at wu-ftp and a little at 
proftp.  I'm wondering what people find to be the better, and easiest 
to set up.

Actually, I'm having trouble setting either up.  But let me tell you 
what I want to do.

Right now I need to set up an ftp site that authenticated users can 
only access in order to download files.  Authentication in our network 
is provided by LDAP w/PAM.  I see that proftp has an LDAP package, 
which I have installed right now.  So, it seems at first the better.  
Ultimately, we may be setting up additional Virtual hosts.

Basically, that's it.

Curtis

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Viewing my replies in mutt

2003-09-03 Thread Paul Dersey
Is there an easy way as I am going through a mailbox to jump to my reply?
Or do I have to leave the mailbox, go to my sent-mail folder and search
for the reply?

It would be really convenient if my replies could be viewed as part of
the threaded view in my mailboxes.

Any suggestions?

Paul


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Moving some parts of FS to unpopuplated partitions, mounting during booting, swap...

2003-09-03 Thread Antonio Rodr
I have some unpopulated partitions. The system originally was woody, using a mixture 
of testing installer and woody CDs. Since then I moved my system to sid. Due to 
restrictions in the woody installer, not all 160 gb were recognized. I want to fix 
this, cfdisk and relatives from sid have no problems seeing the whole disk.
So, at this point, all is in /dev/hdb1.
What is the best way to move /home; /usr; to some of these partitions, and have then 
recognized at booting time?
I want to create a swap partition, because I didn't create one, due to the fact that I 
was playing with the netinstaller for testing before using the woody installer, and it 
seems to me now that it didn't ask me then if I wanted one. And having 512 mb of RAM 
didn't make me too worried about it.  However, the time has come for one. What is the 
best procedure to get it going?
I know (??) that I have to make changes in /etc/fstab, some cp, etc, but would prefer 
to hear some opinions before going ahead, would not want to mess up a new machine.


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Re: Newbie Hardware/Partitioning

2003-09-03 Thread TR

> > > >ATI Radeon 7500 64B/Dual Head

> I use Woody with a backported X 4.3.0. My Radeon 7500 works fine. I
> haven't tried it with the standard woody X though.

I have a Radeon 9800 (128mb ddr), no luck in finding what would work for it. Does 
anyone know of any developments?


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Re: Stopping promiscous mode

2003-09-03 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 20:03, Rus Foster wrote:
> Beyond running ifconfig eth0 -promisc is there anyway to stop eth0 doing
> into promiscous mode?

Are you running network monitoring software (like snort)? Try to configure it 
not to set the device tor promisc mode.

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Re: Duplicating installs across the network

2003-09-03 Thread csj
At Wed, 3 Sep 2003 00:35:05 -0400,
Kevin McKinley wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:07:43 +0200 (CEST)
> Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I know that there are a whole host of tools out there that
> > for imagining/backup, but I have no experience with any of
> > them.  Can anyone out there provide some pointers and
> > insight?  What do you all use?  Does it work well?  I really
> > hope that there is an easy way to this, as I do not want to
> > have to reinstall 9 mahines from scratch.
> > 
> > The machines are homogeneous, with the following hardware:
> 
> If you believe you'll need to do this regularly, I'd recommend
> Norton Ghost.  I recently made its acquaintance, and I'm really
> impressed.
> 
> It runs from a single floppy, and can make a self-booting image
> restore CD.  So to recover a workstation to its starting state,
> just insert the CD and boot. Voila!

There's also a Debian package called partimage.  To quote from
the package description:

"Linux/UNIX utility to save partitions in a compressed image file
Partition Image is a Linux/UNIX partition imaging utility: it
saves partitions in the Ext2FS (the linux standard), ReiserFS (a
new journaled and powerful file system), NTFS (Windows NT File
System) or FAT16/32 (DOS & Windows file systems) file system
formats to an image file [...].

"This makes it possible to save a full Linux/Windows system with
a single operation.  In case of a problem (virus, crash, error,
etc.), you just have to restore, and after several minutes, your
entire system is restored (boot, files, etc.), and fully
working."

There's also mondo and mindi, which together can supposedly
create a self-booting rescue + restore system.  Most people will
probably just rely on the old favorite tar.


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Re: Traction (was Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?)

2003-09-03 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 10:07:39AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 02:19:39AM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:44:43AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > ..2 reason diesel-electric locomotives are popular; they are 
> > > about as clean as your average power utility, and they dont 
> > > put heavy loads on the power grids.
> > 
> > Nope, and nope.  Diesel electrics are popular because they give the
> > most bang for the buck.  Vastly more efficient than gasoline engines
> > and mechanical transmissions (it's 2003, why can't I get a diesel
> > electric car?, with fewer moving parts than the steam engines it
> > replaced.  This makes them dirt cheap and bloody reliable.  The
> > railroads really couldn't give a damn about how much electric they're
> > using since they're not having to string thousands apon thousands of
> > miles of overhead lines (another costly expense railroads don't bother
> > with unless they can get economic benefit from the typically heavier
> > and faster trains that electrified lines run).
> 
> Electric traction offers a few benefits:
> 
>   - Quieter.
>   - Less (near zero) right-of-way (RoW) pollution.
>   - Better high-speed performance.
>   - Fewer ventilation issues for tunnels or enclosed operations (e.g.:
> RR terminals).
>   - Ability to power all axels.  

Well, that last is a benefit of multiple-unit stock rather than
electric traction per se. The current trend for passenger stock in the
UK is for diesel-hydraulic multiple units with all axles powered.

> This last provides several benefits.  One is to reduce the amount of
> slam between cars as the train accelerates or decellerates.
> Ordinarially, cars pack into the locomotive as the train slows, and
> start moving incrementally as the train starts (incidentally
> distributing the startup load).  More significantly though, for long
> trains, is the elimination of the stringlining problem.  This is the
> result of having all your motive force at one end of a long line of
> cars, while drag is distributed through the train.  On a long curve (or
> series of curves), the tendency is for the string to straighten out.
> This has resulted in several derailments in mountainous regions,
> notabily Dunsmuir in northern California (near Mt. Shasta, just south of
> the Oregon border).

...and model railways everywhere!

Another benefit is that the locomotives are simpler, being essentially
less than the electric part of a diesel-electric, and the electrical
components also benefit from not having to share accommodation with a
diesel engine, so reliability is greater, and maintenance less
complicated (although the maintenance of the routes gets harder).

> Downsides of electrification are notably the cost of electrifying the
> RoW, and aquisition of stock.
> 
> Also, back in my intern days at SMUD, I recall that the city's light
> rail system operated in power blocks seperated (though not fully
> independent of) the city grid, largely because of the acceleration and
> deceleration power draws and surges.

The London Underground used to maintain their own completely
independent power stations until not all that long ago. Nowadays they
take power from the national grid, using a large number of small
substations supplying fairly short sections of line. The substations
appear to have a fairly high impedance, and the voltage on the rails
can vary over a range of nearly 2:1 as a result, while the effect on
the main grid is reduced. Be funny if all the PCs in the City blew up
when a tube train went past...

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Re: CMI9738 in kernel 2.6

2003-09-03 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 11:46:16AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was just wondering if anyone has noticed availability of support for
> CMI9738 sound chip in the new kernel. I just wanted to find out before I
> download anything.
> 
> Once upon a time a patch was available that would run this chip. I can run
> the chip using i8x0 sound driver using OSS, but I was wondering if a better
> option is now available. I heard ALSA might provide a better support.
> 
> Q3A unfortunately freezes with OSS i8x0 driver with 2.4.21 and CMI9738 on
> my mobo.
> 
> Has CMI9738 made it into 2.6 yet?
> 
> Any thoughts or observations?

Don't you mean CMI8738? Or am I being ignorant?

The CMI8738 support in 2.6 seems to be light years ahead of what's in
2.4. Unfortunately I can't run it because ini9100u is borked so I
wouldn't be able to accesss my hard drives... :-(

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Re: lm-sensors

2003-09-03 Thread David Z Maze
Menno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>  > I believe unstable's make-kpkg has
>  > some support for building kernel modules given
>
> I use stable, and there is some kind of support in it. According to
> the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.modules is should do
> something like this:
>
> make-kpkg --revision number kernel_image
> make-kpkg modules_image

Note that the first step there builds a custom kernel from unpacked
source; see also
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.  The second
step assumes the kernel tree from the first.

> I suspect that I have to chage something in the Makefile of the
> kernel-source to get this right. Should line 4 look like EXTRAVERSION
> = -1-686 ???

You want to add --append-to-version -1-686 to your make-kpkg flags.

>  > bug 189513 points at
>  > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg01794.html,
>  > suggests doing this:
>
> Yes, that helped me. In the end I did this, and I was able to installa
> the .deb file:

<*snip*>

>ln -s kernel-source-2.4.18 linux
>cd /usr/src/linux

(I don't generally recommend doing that: at some point you're going to
boot a different kernel, and the symlink is going to be wrong, and
you're going to compile something that sees the symlink and assumes
it's correct.)

>fakeroot debian/rules kdist_image \
>   KSRC=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-1-686 \
>   KVERS=2.4.18-1-686 KDREV=2.4.18-11

This ignores the kernel-source package you installed entirely,
incidentally.  But if it works, that's good to hear.

> Is this "standard procedure"? Do it again when kernel 2.4.18-14 is
> released?

Yes, sadly, and yes.

> Or, will this be easier in the next release of Debian (as in unstable?).

I'm making a somewhat vague effort to provide precompiled kernel
modules in unstable, but it's tricky keeping up with the current
kernels.  lm-sensors 2.8.0, with precompiled modules for kernel
2.4.21-4, is in the incoming queue waiting for ftpmaster approval, but
kernel 2.4.21-5 is current in unstable now.

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apt-get problem

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Ayliffe
I had a problem updating my two unstable machines this morning. I got the
message "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource
temporarily unavailable)". Looking through the archive of this illustrious
list I found several suggestions that another copy of dselect (or presumably
apt-get) must be running. This was not so, the first instance happened part
way through the installation phase, after the download was complete. It also
recurred after an init 1.

I found that deleting /var/lib/dpkg/lock did not solve the problem and a new
instance was created on each attempt. However deleting that file and
/var/lib/dpkg/methlock allowed the installtion to complete successfully.

HTH

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