cron, won't change time !

[David selby]

OK Ive looked into this, but I can't get it to work ...
my /etc/cron.daily executes at 7:35 AM +- a couple of mins.
I need it to execute at 1:30AM +-, no problem I thought .. I enterd 
/etc/crontab

# /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab
# Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab'
# command to install the new version when you edit this file.
# This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs do.
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
MAILTO=web
# m h dom mon dow user  command
25 1* * *   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report 
/etc/cron.daily
47 6* * 7   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report 
/etc/cron.weekly
52 61 * *   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report 
/etc/cron.monthl
y
#

& changed cron.daily to 1:25 ... guess what 7:35 it executed ! I did a 
/etc/init.d/cron restart, 7:35, I did a system re-boot, 7:35 !

I checked out anacron, I don't see how this can have an effect

Any Ideas what I am doing wrong ?
Dave


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Re: java 1.4 issue

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:53:39AM -0400, Stephen wrote:
> Thanks John, fixed that issue, still won't install. Dependency on what I
> can't seem to figure out, seems circular:

Could you avoid wrapping your error messages, please? This ...

> Setting up j2re1.4 (1.4.0.99beta-1) ...  update-alternatives: unable to
> make /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins/javaplugin_oji.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink
> to /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so: No such file or
> directory dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--configure): subprocess
> post-installation script returned error exit status 2 dpkg: dependency
> problems prevent configuration of j2sdk1.4: j2sdk1.4 depends on j2re1.4
> (= 1.4.0.99beta-1); however: Package j2re1.4 is not configured yet.

... is much harder to read than the original, which would have been
something like this:

> Setting up j2re1.4 (1.4.0.99beta-1) ...
> update-alternatives: unable to make 
> /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins/javaplugin_oji.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to 
> /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so: No such file or directory
> dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of j2sdk1.4:
>  j2sdk1.4 depends on j2re1.4 > (= 1.4.0.99beta-1); however:
>   Package j2re1.4 is not configured yet.

Anyway, this has been reported to the Blackdown people as a bug several
times, I think. 'mkdir -p /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins' should work
around the problem and allow all the packages to configure.

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apm power_off hangs system

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

After 8 years of running Debian, I've never had Linux crash on me 
before, not once! Until now that is...

I've just upgraded my wife's PC from OS/2 to Woody. No real problems, 
other than I found it a bit tricky getting X 4.3 installed, so that I 
could use the GLX drivers for her nVidia GeForce2 video card. But thanks 
to http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/ for sorting that out, now it's 
all installed OK and running nicely.

I sold the idea of going over to Linux by booting the Knoppix CD, and 
showing off OpenOffice.org, and all the great stuff that's on that CD. 
One of the nice things that Knoppix does is to turn the computer right 
off when you shut down Linux. My wife wanted this functionality, so I 
thought I had better start brushing up on apm.

I added the required line:

append="apm=on apm=power-off"
... in etc/lilo.conf, and ran lilo OK
I also added the single line:

apm power_off=1

...to /etc/modules, then rebooted the system. No problems logging in, 
lsmod showed that apm was loaded, so time to try this thing out!

I logged out of Gnome, expecting to get back to the gdm login greeter 
(which I have set up to show the shutdown menu). The screen first went 
blank, as it usually does when the nVidia driver restarts itself, but 
instead of the nVidia splash screen, it came back with a pastel-coloured 
screen with a one-centimetre horizontal stripe across the middle. At 
this point the whole system was hard locked - no keys worked, I couldn't 
get to a console, nothing! I hadn't seen this kind of behaviour since my 
Windoze NT days! I pressed the hard reset switch and thanked my stars 
that I had chosen ext3 as the filesystem, so that fsck could run a bit 
more swiftly.

OK, time to chase this one down! I had only changed two things (the two 
lines mentioned above), so start by removing them, running lilo, 
rebooting and checking that all is well. No problem. I then added the 
/etc/lilo.conf line, ran lilo and rebooted (wow, 4 reboots in one day - 
more shades of Windoze). No problems there, OK to log out back to the 
greeter, log back in again, switch to virtual terminal and back to 
Gnome. So the problem must lie in the apm module itself, or it's 
interraction with some other part of the system.

Next, _don't_ modify /etc/modules, just load the thing manually with this:

# modprobe apm power_off=1

... and check that it is loaded with lsmod - no problem. Time to log out 
again, but first be a bit sneaky and do a quick sync, as I expect things 
to go belly-up again. Sure enough, same problem as before, Crash!. Hard 
reset, fsck, log in again. What next?

Maybe this is a problem between apm and the video driver? Load the apm 
module and do a . Yep, that breaks it.

Now I don't know what to try, other than see if I can just load and 
unload the apm module. So after next reboot:

# modprobe apm power_off=1
# rmmod apm
Crash!

So now, I am stumped :-( . Other than a vague feeling that this has to 
do with the nVidia driver, I really don't know what to try next. Any 
ideas anyone?

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/(   )\
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Re: SCO, IBM, and cladistics

[Paul Johnson]

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:29:17PM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> Unfortunately, though, in this case relatedness is not the same thing as
> ancestry - one of the possible histories here is that SCO stole code from
> GPLed code bases, not the reverse. In that case relatedness is high, but
> directionality is the other way.

I've been operating on the assumption that if there is any code in
common, Linux to SCO is the way it went, not SCO to Linux.  SCO has a
lot in common with the punch-happy trailer trash you see on COPS and
that I occasionally have to deal with at work:  Can't keep their story
straight, suspecious claims, withholding important details.

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Re: how to have a gpg public key?

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 12:41:47PM +0800, Louie Miranda wrote:
> How can i have a gpg public key?

See gnupg documentation.  I think kgpg is a clicky interface for KDE
GnuPG users, which might help you out if you're new as well.

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make-kpkg fails on changelog with wrong name after patch

[Mark C]

Hi,

I have just downloaded and installed on woody the following:

kernel-source-2.4.18
kernel-patch-grsecurity-2-4

I untared the source, and then cd'ed into the top level directory, used a
default config (make menuconfig and Save), just applied the grsecurity
option (wanted to make sure it compiles ok, before I start customising the
config file)

then ran:

make-kpkg --added-patches=grsecurity_2_4 --append-to-version=-grsec-1.9.4
--initrd kernel-image

It builds ok, up until the very end, it keeps failing with:

/usr/bin/make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/rules real_stamp_image
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18'

The changelog says we are creating 2.4.18-grsec-1.9.4, but I thought the
version is 2.4.18-grsec-1.9.4-grsec-1.9.4

make[1]: *** [real_stamp_image] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18'
make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 2

No matter what I enter on the '--append-to-version' lor if I leave it out,
it keeps stopping at this level and complaining about the changelog
version.

I'm pretty sure something has been missed out somewhere.

Any help would be appresiated.

Yes everttime I retry it, I completely remove the kernel-source-2.4.18
directory.
Cheers

Mark

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Re: Replying by email to the newsfeed

[Anthony Rowe]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:30:08PM +0200, Alan Connor wrote:
> 
> Am working on a sed script that will remove most of the headers and put > in
> front of the lines in the body, etc

That sed script (or the way it is used) still needs some tweaking it
seems.  While you can strip out headers it is probably impossible to 
write in the missing ones if any, and threading may remain iffy.

Still, why not just browse saved articles using mutt and reply to them
by pressing 'r' in the usual way as I mentioned earlier?  Doing this
looks after the quoting as well.  Perhaps improvements could yet be
made by doing some of the things you are trying to do, but it's fairly
simple to use mutt to browse your slrn directory, and all the e-mail
functionality you need is already in place.

In any case, if I was going to participate regularly on debian-user, I
would subscribe to the mailing list.  Surely that is the best way to
handle the list anyway?  Usually I am read-only and the newsfeed is 
great for that...

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Re: how to have a gpg public key?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 11:08:53PM -0700, Jeff Wiegley, Ph.D. wrote:
> 1st: A problem with this list is its huge signal to noise ratio.
>  If you don't have an answer to give jokes are less than helpful.

Looking at lists.debian.org, I see this is a list for debian users,
not topic specific, nor are there gaurantees that you won't get your
leg pulled if you ask a silly/obvious question.  8:o)  Seems like a
better solution to this feature instead of bitching about it is to
steer users towards asking better questions.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Or for the ones who absolutely refuse to put forth any effort
whatsoever on their part, just expect us to send them the Magic
Answer:

http://www.debian.org/consultants/

> basically you have two keys A and B. If you encrypt with
> key A you need to know only key B to decrypt it. GPG, RSA, PGP
> take this a bit further they also support the fact that if
> you encrypt with B you can decrypt the message with A.
> (not all asymmetric systems do B->A)

We'll assume A is private and B is the public key.

Not quite.  In the above example, the first scenario (encrypting with
private, decrypting with public key) is highly improbable (though the
odds get better with the more computing power and time you have,
consider a supercomputer and several (dozen?) years), AFAIK, otherwise
why not just use symettrical keys?

> (we
> could have called either one private it wouldn't matter.) Nobody,
> and I mean nobody, else should ever know the private key other than
> the owner (i.e. you).  But *everybody* can/should/may be
> allowed to have complete knowledge of the "public" key.

x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu/ and other Keyservers are your friend.

> Now if they want to send you a message that only you can
> read they encrypt the message with your public key knowing
> that only you possess the private key necessary to decrypt
> the message and other people who also know the public key
> still can't decrypt it because the public key won't decrypt
> that which was encrypted using the public key. (If you want
> to send encrypted messages to them you need to know *their*
> public key and encrypt with that. (that part is a bit
> unintuitive to security beginners who are use to using the
> same set of secrets to both send and receiver messages.)

Basically, what's going on here is you're standing in a public
hallway.  You want to give something to your friend.  It's
valuable/personal, and you're not comfortable leaving it taped to the
door for everybody/anybody to see/steal.  So you slip it under the
door into his private apartment.  If you've got a public key for
someone, you're standing in the hallway outside their apartment.
Encrypt it with their public key and send off the encrypted message
and you've slid it under the door.

It's fairly safe to assume, however, that unlike at Initech, your
coworkers are extremely unlikely to go off on a grand-theft-stapler-
induced rage, break into the recipient's office
and use your message to burn the building down.[1]

> But now you can also digitally sign messages. You simply encrypt
> the message with your private key. people know your public key
> and only the public key will decrypt the message is if it was
> encrypted with your private key. AND *only* you know the private
> key. Therefor if the public key successfully decrypts the message
> then it must have been you that wrote it.

Actually, to sign a message, you don't need to encrypt it.  Though in
an encrypted message, it's good to also sign it so the recipient knows
for sure who the sender is (though you can not sign it to remain
anonymous, though the practicality of this is limited).

> This is glossing over a lot of the problems associated with
> two sticky points:
>   1) how do you reliably distribute your public key?

Keyservers, ascii-armored in your .pgpkey file (if you run fingerd or
equiv) and on your website tend to be the big three ways of doing it.

>   These are why Veri$ign charges $75 per year to maintain
> certificates on their distribution system.

Not that Verisign is trustworthy.  This is a contributing factor as to
why S/MIME email is extremely rare.

> keysize of 1024 is ok, but some recent work in the area of
> number theory indicates that somebody with about 10 billion
> dollars can create a specialized computer capable of cracking
> such keys in a not-unreasonable period of time.

Well, theory and practice are two different things.  When the FBI
seized Kevin Mitnick's machines, there were some PGP encrypted files.
Mitnick refused to cough up the password.  For the five years or so
the FBI had his hardware, they couldn't crack his files.  I know at
least before the government accountants started saying on CNN that war
could easily drive the US to bankruptcy before Bush is out of office
that they probably had some decent hardware at their disposal.[2]

> last tip... "evolution" is apretty good graphical 

Re: how to have a gpg public key?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:38:27PM +0800, Louie Miranda wrote:
> webdev:~# gpg --list-keys
> /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
> 
> pub  ***
> sub  ***
> 
> I wonder whats the sub ? I also see other users have gnupgpid: x9374483
> (whatever)
> Is that all related to the pub section?

public key complete with a single name/email address.  I think you
have to have at least one subkey on your public key, but I could be wrong.

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Re: how to have a gpg public key?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:48:23PM +0800, Louie Miranda wrote:
> I mean, for ex this one.
> 
> > GPG/PGP ID:   26384A3A
> > Fingerprint:  D9FF DF4A 2D46 A353 A289  E8F5 AA75 DCBE 2638 4A3A
> 
> Is this different from the one that i generated?

Yes, it should be.  If it's not, something's wrong.

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Re: how to have a gpg public key?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:56:16PM -0700, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> What do you do when you switch systems? E.g. I heve
> done the key-gen thing and all, but now I want to gen
> a new Debian Sarge from scratch. What do you have to
> copy to have what you had before?

If you need to copy your PGP data someplace else, you want to copy
your ~/.gnupg directory.

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Re: First mail from my Linux

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:20:58AM +, Jianan Huang wrote:
> 1) xdm-log showed an error msg about not being able to open Xwrapper.config 
> because it was not found. This that a red-herring since everything seemed 
> to be working fine?

Yup.  Your log-fu will get better with time.

> 2) I have to open a Bash window to 'pon' before entering Mozilla and leave 
> Mozilla to do a 'poff'. Can these be done from within Mozilla?

Go check out the PPP howto (or possibly an option in pppconfig) on how
to enable on-demand dialing.  I would strongly recommend looking into
using fetchmail and your local MTA unless you've got some bizarre
issues like Mr Lamb does that requires a weird setup like Mozilla's if
you're on a dailup.  It'll reduce your odds of dailing out when you
don't need to.  Debian versions of fetchmail and exim will try to
fetch mail off remote servers and deliver queued outgoing mail as soon
as a PPP connection is established, so being online is pretty
irrelevant.  Combine it with squid running in offline mode and
adzapper, and your web browsing will also become insanely more
convienent after initial configuration (no ads, cached objects will
always load as fast as your proxy server and ethernet will allow).

> 3) Font size of characters in text windows such as Bash, Xterm etc. are too 
> small. How to adjust them ?

For xterm (and most other x-terminal-emulator alternatives) check the
x-terminal-emulator manual, there's an X resource to set.

> 4) Is there a GUI for the Linux file system such as window-xplorer for 
> MS-Window?

Literally?  XPDE (though it hasn't been packaged for Debian AFAIK, I
think it probably scares the locals too much...  http://www.xpde.com)

Most people coming from Windows will find KDE to be a comfortable
transition in.

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Re: Graphic boot...

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:30:20PM +, Vittorio wrote:
> I've tailored my 2.4.20 kernel quitting the boxed 2.4.18-bf24. Now at
> boot time I don't have that nice graphical penguin and a graphical
> display any longer as with the previous kernel.

I think this is the default kernel behavior if you use the
framebuffer.  Linus Torvalds recommends that you avoid using the
framebuffer except as a last resort when you can't get decent video
any other way.

I'd really reconsider if it's really worth spending the time and
effort on a feature that gets a vote of no confidence from the
maintainer.

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Why pppoe bothers to bring the interface up?

[Shaul Karl]

  /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot.dsl has the following lines:

# Bring the interface up
/sbin/ifconfig $INTERFACE up

Why bother? Isn't /etc/rc0.d/S35networking guaranteed to run before the
pppoe has a chance to bring the interface up?
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Re: bash: can I cd from a script

[David selby]

Dave Carrigan wrote:

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 07:36, David Z Maze wrote:

 

Depending on how complicated the script is, rewriting it as a shell
function might be appropriate.  You could add to your .bashrc file
something like
 cdls() { cd "$1"; ls; }

and then "cdls foo" would change directories to foo and list it.
   

If your script is really complicated, alter it a bit so it prints out
the directory to change to and you can still do it as a function:
mycd() {
 cd `my-big-script "$*"`
}
my-big-script:
#! /bin/sh
# Do lots of stuff
echo /the/new/directory
 

It works ... !, I had in desperation defined an alias
alias test='source script' which also worked but was very messy,  I 
prefer your idea, and it is now in situ !

Dave

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Re: Help needed with router vs Apache problem

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:54:31PM +, Daniel Lesage wrote:
> I then configured the router to forward requests to port 81 to the debian 
> box.

Why?  Your ISP is blocking connections to port 80.  Have your router
redirect incoming connections from the outside world on port 81 to
your webserver's port 80 on the internal network.

If you were using Linux as a router, this would be accomplished with:

# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 81 -j DNAT --to-destination 
192.168.0.4:80

This assumes eth0 is your external interface and eth1 is your
internal.  Also assumes your webserver is listening on the default
port (80/tcp) and is located at 192.168.0.4.  Change these details as
necissary.

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:33:53PM -0700, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> You may not want to hear this, but I far prefer
> Midnight Commander (mc) on a virtual console. I think
> it looks better and is easier to use than a GUI file
> manager.

You may be interested to know that mc appears to be a clone of
Microsoft DOSSHELL that came with IBM and MS-DOS 4.0 through IBM and
MS-DOS 6.22.  It was dropped in IBM-DOS 7.0 and MS Windows95.

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Re: Graphic boot...

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

Vittorio wrote:

I've tailored my 2.4.20 kernel quitting the boxed 2.4.18-bf24. Now at
boot time I don't have that nice graphical penguin and a graphical
display any longer as with the previous kernel.
How could I set lilo (or the kernel?) to have that penguin at boot
time?
Ciao
Vittorio
Easiest way to do this is to copy the config file from the bf24 kernel 
to /usr/src/linux/.config, then make oldconfig before you start 
configuring your new kernel. That way you get all the options that were 
set in the bf24 kernel, and can start turning off the ones you don't need.

Just leave everything alone that has to do with framebuffer, console, 
video etc and it should just work (that's what I did, and it worked for me).

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Re: Install problem

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 04:33:09PM -0400, Philip Juels wrote:
> I'm attempting to install version 3.0r1 on an AlphaServer 800 via ftp 
> and when I get to the Base installation it bombs out complaining it 
> couldn't download the libpcre3 package.  I'm booting off the rescue and 
> root floppies.

Give it another go.  Your mirror just didn't have that package the
moment you tried it.

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bootcd2disk

[Yildiz, Murat]

Hi,
I have successfully created a bootcd and booted with it.
When I run bootcd2disk I get the following error : 
Why do I get this error?

(woody 3.0 bf2.4 , bootcd 2.32)

test:/var#bootcd2disk
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
/usr/bin/bootcd2disk: P: unbound variable
test:/var# more /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
--- /usr/bin/bootcd2disk 24.07.2003 ---
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
auto SFDISK=<
,50
,1001,S
;
>

bootcd2disk.conf :

ERRLOG=/var/log/bootcd2disk.log
DISK="/dev/sda"
SFDISK="auto"
EXT2FS="auto"
EXT3="auto"
SWAP="auto"
MOUNT="auto"
UMOUNT="auto"
FSTAB="auto"
LILO="auto"
SSHHOSTKEY=no


test:/etc/bootcd# fdisk -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 8714 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1 1  2930   3000304   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  2931  2978 49152   83  Linux
/dev/sda3  2979  3955   1000448   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda4  3956  8714   48732165  Extended
/dev/sda5  3956  8714   4873200   8e  Linux LVM
test:/etc/bootcd#


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Re: error upgrading debconf in debian unstable - python2.2: invalidoption -- O

[johan]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 01.26, Joey Hess wrote:
> johan wrote:
> > Hello! I have problems upgrading to debconf 1.3.4. I get the following
> > error message:
> >
> > Setting up debconf (1.3.4) ...
> > python2.2: invalid option -- O
> > Try `python2.2 --help' for more information.
> > dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure):
> >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> >
> > It's been like this for a week now, and it causes a lot of trouble
> > because all packages that depends on debconf complains that debconf isn't
> > configured yet.
> >
> > Does anyone else have this problem or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Do you perhaps have a local install of python that is broken and does
> not understand the -O flag? The -O flag is documented on python's man
> page.

I reinstalled python and that seems to have solved the problem. I don't know 
what the problem was, but I should have tried this before asking for help. 
Thanks for taking your time!

/Johan


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Re: Network speed

[Paul Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 07:44:13PM -0400, Dan Jones wrote:
> Is there a straightforward way to determine what speed (10 or 100mbs) a
> NIC is running?  How about to determine if it is in half or full duplex
> mode?

If it's running at 10Mbit, it will never be full duplex.  If you're
running at 100, then it could be full or half.  If your network cables
only have four leads connected, you're using 10.

Other than that, cram it in a (decent quality or better (read: NetGear
or cisco) ethernet switch and see what the lights tell you.

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Re: New packages

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 01:08:59AM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I've found a rather useful little app that doesn't appear to be in the
> distribution yet.  How can I go about getting it in there?  I have
> looked through the Debian policy page, but couldn't find what I was
> looking for.

Start following debian-devel and go search through the new maintainer
documentation over on the website. 

Not to discourage you if you want to make a real effort, but if
finding this info sounds hard you might want to stick around until
you're better acquainted with the distro before making Debian
packages, much less applying to maintain your own packages as an
official part of Debian.

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NFS Problem

[Bart Lenoir]

Hi,

I'm running an NFS server on Red Hat.
Connected to the Red Hat I have a Debian 
which I want to use as an NFS client.
Ping, Ftp, Telnet, ... all seems fine.
Mount and Umount is working well, however
I don't have access to the selected directory.
"Permission denied". The only way I can have
access to this directory is to set Red Hat 
/etc/exports to (rw,sync,no_root_squash).
Logging in as root on Debian I'm having access 
but that is not what I want. Why do I get 
Permission refused as regular user?

On another Red Hat I do have access as regular user.

rpcinfo -p on Debian

# rpcinfo -p
   program vers proto   port
102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
1000241   udp867  status
1000241   tcp870  status
3910021   tcp  32768  sgi_fam
3910022   tcp  32768  sgi_fam
1000211   udp  32769  nlockmgr
1000213   udp  32769  nlockmgr
1000214   udp  32769  nlockmgr

Thanks,
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grub-install can't find BIOS drive

[Amy Tanner]

I'm trying to install grub on a Compaq DL360 G1 with 2 9GB drives doing
RAID 0.  I get this error:

# grub-install --recheck /dev/ida/c0d0
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
/dev/ida/c0d0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.

I'm running grub 0.91-2.  Any ideas?  Thanks.
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RE: bootcd2disk

[SCHUMACHER,BERND (HP-Germany,ex1)]

Hi Yildiz,

seems you have found a bug.

P will only be set if DISK=auto is defined. But it 
should be set in each case.

Please set P="" at the start of the bootcd2disk skript for now.

If it works it will be fixed in the next Version.
Please tell me if it works.

Regards
Bernd

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Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 13:50
To: 'Thomas Krennwallner'; Debian-User
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: bootcd2disk




Hi,
I have successfully created a bootcd and booted with it.
When I run bootcd2disk I get the following error : 
Why do I get this error?

(woody 3.0 bf2.4 , bootcd 2.32)

test:/var#bootcd2disk
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
/usr/bin/bootcd2disk: P: unbound variable
test:/var# more /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
--- /usr/bin/bootcd2disk 24.07.2003 ---
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
auto SFDISK=<
,50
,1001,S
;
>

bootcd2disk.conf :

ERRLOG=/var/log/bootcd2disk.log
DISK="/dev/sda"
SFDISK="auto"
EXT2FS="auto"
EXT3="auto"
SWAP="auto"
MOUNT="auto"
UMOUNT="auto"
FSTAB="auto"
LILO="auto"
SSHHOSTKEY=no


test:/etc/bootcd# fdisk -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 8714 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1 1  2930   3000304   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  2931  2978 49152   83  Linux
/dev/sda3  2979  3955   1000448   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda4  3956  8714   48732165  Extended
/dev/sda5  3956  8714   4873200   8e  Linux LVM
test:/etc/bootcd#


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Re: Graphic boot...

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

Gilles Missonnier wrote:

->Easiest way to do this is to copy the config file from the bf24 kernel
->to /usr/src/linux/.config, then make oldconfig before you start
->configuring your new kernel. That way you get all the options that were
->set in the bf24 kernel, and can start turning off the ones you don't 
need.

how do you get the config file when you start from in image bf24 + net
install, so you do not have any kernel source ?
*cp /boot/config-2.4.18-bf2.4 /usr/src/linux/.config*

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Solved: bootcd2disk

[Yildiz, Murat]

Hi,
should I report the bug :)
I haven't thought that the bootcd Skripts were shell Skripts.
Anyway I was able to bootcd2disk and to boot from the disk after setting
P="" at the start of the bootcd2disk skript.
Thankx

Murat

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 14:29
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Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Betreff: RE: bootcd2disk


Hi Yildiz,

seems you have found a bug.

P will only be set if DISK=auto is defined. But it 
should be set in each case.

Please set P="" at the start of the bootcd2disk skript for now.

If it works it will be fixed in the next Version.
Please tell me if it works.

Regards
Bernd

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From: Yildiz, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 13:50
To: 'Thomas Krennwallner'; Debian-User
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: bootcd2disk




Hi,
I have successfully created a bootcd and booted with it.
When I run bootcd2disk I get the following error : 
Why do I get this error?

(woody 3.0 bf2.4 , bootcd 2.32)

test:/var#bootcd2disk
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
/usr/bin/bootcd2disk: P: unbound variable
test:/var# more /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
--- /usr/bin/bootcd2disk 24.07.2003 ---
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
auto SFDISK=<
,50
,1001,S
;
>

bootcd2disk.conf :

ERRLOG=/var/log/bootcd2disk.log
DISK="/dev/sda"
SFDISK="auto"
EXT2FS="auto"
EXT3="auto"
SWAP="auto"
MOUNT="auto"
UMOUNT="auto"
FSTAB="auto"
LILO="auto"
SSHHOSTKEY=no


test:/etc/bootcd# fdisk -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 8714 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1 1  2930   3000304   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  2931  2978 49152   83  Linux
/dev/sda3  2979  3955   1000448   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda4  3956  8714   48732165  Extended
/dev/sda5  3956  8714   4873200   8e  Linux LVM
test:/etc/bootcd#


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Re: First mail from my Linux

[Jacob S.]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:31:49 -0700
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:33:53PM -0700, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > You may not want to hear this, but I far prefer
> > Midnight Commander (mc) on a virtual console. I think
> > it looks better and is easier to use than a GUI file
> > manager.
> 
> You may be interested to know that mc appears to be a clone of
> Microsoft DOSSHELL that came with IBM and MS-DOS 4.0 through IBM and
> MS-DOS 6.22.  It was dropped in IBM-DOS 7.0 and MS Windows95.

apt-cache show mc
...
Description: Midnight Commander - A powerful file manager. - normal
version Midnight Commander is a feature-rich file manager. It has mouse
support in a linux console and in an xterm. It started as a Norton
Commander clone but now it is far superior to it. Among other things it
can do FTP, includes a hex editor, comes with an internal editor which
can be invoked separately as 'mcedit' and lets you do most system
administration tasks.

Dosshell was more likely another example of Microsoft's way of finding
new features for Dos/Windows - find a feature/program that you like
and imitate it.

Best regards,
Jacob

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Re: cron, won't change time !

[Shawn Lamson]

On Thu, July 24 at  8:13 AM EDT
David selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

># /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab
># Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab'
># command to install the new version when you edit this file.
># This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs
>do.
>
>SHELL=/bin/sh
>PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
>MAILTO=web
>
># m h dom mon dow user  command
>25 1* * *   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
>
>/etc/cron.daily
>47 6* * 7   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
>
>/etc/cron.weekly
>52 61 * *   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
>
>/etc/cron.monthl
>y
>#
>
>& changed cron.daily to 1:25 ... guess what 7:35 it executed ! I did a 
>/etc/init.d/cron restart, 7:35, I did a system re-boot, 7:35 !
>
>I checked out anacron, I don't see how this can have an effect
>
>Any Ideas what I am doing wrong ?

I think if you man 5 crontab it says in a comment in the ample file that
the directory /etc/cron.d is now used for anachron.  Edit the file
/etc/cron.d/anachron... to me this system is doubled up and I would
comment out the lines in the system wide crontab - maybe this is wrong
and someone can point out why?

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incomplete shutdown?

[Richard Lyons]

I managed to eliminate the graphic login by unlinking the k, x, and g 
desktops in /etc/rc2.d.  That did what I expected, and allowed me to 
login at the terminal.  But 'shutdown now' seems to only partly shut 
down, leaving me with a 'Enter root password... or ctl-D for...' 
message.  Is it okay to power down from that state?  Sorry if that is 
a dumb question, but I'm new to debian.

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ports and www.debian.org

[Andreas von Heydwolff]

Hello,

with an iptables firewall set to a default REJECT I can load almost 
every web site but www.debian.org which gives me timeouts. Opening ports 
7 echo/icmp or 113 auth doesn't make a difference. When I open all ports 
for 192.25.206.10 the pages load immediately.

What ports would I have to open specifically if I don't want make a hole 
for the whole IP address? I was cracked a few months ago and spoofed 
kernel.org packages (checked with their sysadmin) keep appearing now and 
then, so I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Regards,

Andreas

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Re: incomplete shutdown?

[Shawn Lamson]

On Thu, July 24 at  2:09 PM EDT
Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I managed to eliminate the graphic login by unlinking the k, x, and g 
>desktops in /etc/rc2.d.  That did what I expected, and allowed me to 
>login at the terminal.  But 'shutdown now' seems to only partly shut 
>down, leaving me with a 'Enter root password... or ctl-D for...' 
>message.  Is it okay to power down from that state?  Sorry if that is 
>a dumb question, but I'm new to debian.

Did you "unlink" the K as well as the S links?  The K links would be the
ones killing the processes.  I would log in as root again, manually kill
them, then shutdown -h now or shutdown -r now.  Hopefully they won't
restart on boot and you won't have that problem again.  I think a
preferred way is to rename the gdm to gdm.old in /etc/inittab and then 
#update-rc.d gdm remove
Likewise for the others.

HTH,
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RE: Solved: bootcd2disk

[SCHUMACHER,BERND (HP-Germany,ex1)]

Hi,

I will upload the next bootcd version at the beginning of august.
The bug is already fixed in my cvs sources. For people using
bootcd meanwhile, it could be good if you report the bug.

Thanks
Bernd

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To: 'SCHUMACHER,BERND (HP-Germany,ex1)'
Cc: 'Thomas Krennwallner'; Debian-User
Subject: Solved: bootcd2disk



Hi,
should I report the bug :)
I haven't thought that the bootcd Skripts were shell Skripts.
Anyway I was able to bootcd2disk and to boot from the disk after setting
P="" at the start of the bootcd2disk skript.
Thankx

Murat

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 14:29
An: 'Yildiz, Murat'; 'Thomas Krennwallner'; Debian-User
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Betreff: RE: bootcd2disk


Hi Yildiz,

seems you have found a bug.

P will only be set if DISK=auto is defined. But it 
should be set in each case.

Please set P="" at the start of the bootcd2disk skript for now.

If it works it will be fixed in the next Version.
Please tell me if it works.

Regards
Bernd

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From: Yildiz, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 13:50
To: 'Thomas Krennwallner'; Debian-User
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: bootcd2disk




Hi,
I have successfully created a bootcd and booted with it.
When I run bootcd2disk I get the following error : 
Why do I get this error?

(woody 3.0 bf2.4 , bootcd 2.32)

test:/var#bootcd2disk
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
/usr/bin/bootcd2disk: P: unbound variable
test:/var# more /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
--- /usr/bin/bootcd2disk 24.07.2003 ---
To see full output: tail -f /var/log/bootcd2disk.log
auto SFDISK=<
,50
,1001,S
;
>

bootcd2disk.conf :

ERRLOG=/var/log/bootcd2disk.log
DISK="/dev/sda"
SFDISK="auto"
EXT2FS="auto"
EXT3="auto"
SWAP="auto"
MOUNT="auto"
UMOUNT="auto"
FSTAB="auto"
LILO="auto"
SSHHOSTKEY=no


test:/etc/bootcd# fdisk -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 8714 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1 1  2930   3000304   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  2931  2978 49152   83  Linux
/dev/sda3  2979  3955   1000448   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda4  3956  8714   48732165  Extended
/dev/sda5  3956  8714   4873200   8e  Linux LVM
test:/etc/bootcd#


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Re: NFS Problem

[Zhao You Bing]

Bart Lenoir wrote:
Hi,

I'm running an NFS server on Red Hat.
Connected to the Red Hat I have a Debian 
which I want to use as an NFS client.
Ping, Ftp, Telnet, ... all seems fine.
Mount and Umount is working well, however
I don't have access to the selected directory.
"Permission denied". The only way I can have
access to this directory is to set Red Hat 
/etc/exports to (rw,sync,no_root_squash).
Logging in as root on Debian I'm having access 
but that is not what I want. Why do I get 
Permission refused as regular user?

On another Red Hat I do have access as regular user.

rpcinfo -p on Debian

# rpcinfo -p
   program vers proto   port
102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
1000241   udp867  status
1000241   tcp870  status
3910021   tcp  32768  sgi_fam
3910022   tcp  32768  sgi_fam
1000211   udp  32769  nlockmgr
1000213   udp  32769  nlockmgr
1000214   udp  32769  nlockmgr
Thanks,
Bart

I think nfs requires u have same user id on both the system if u want to 
have full rights (very dangerous I think)

so u need to change /etc/passwd to have same user id. Redhat starts user 
id from 500 while Debian starts from 1000, I did manually changed the 
user id to have nfs access.

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Re: incomplete shutdown?

[Zhao You Bing]

Richard Lyons wrote:
I managed to eliminate the graphic login by unlinking the k, x, and g 
desktops in /etc/rc2.d.  That did what I expected, and allowed me to 
login at the terminal.  But 'shutdown now' seems to only partly shut 
down, leaving me with a 'Enter root password... or ctl-D for...' 
message.  Is it okay to power down from that state?  Sorry if that is 
a dumb question, but I'm new to debian.

On Debian, for the default only root can use shutdown,
I don't know why u have such a message for ordinary user.
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Re: Network speed

[Mike Dresser]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Paul Johnson wrote:

> If it's running at 10Mbit, it will never be full duplex.  If you're
> running at 100, then it could be full or half.  If your network cables
> only have four leads connected, you're using 10.

Actually, you can have full duplex on 10BaseT.
100BaseT runs on only 4 wires as well.

Mike


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Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

[Andrew Perrin]

Well said. There's simply "no there there" - SCO has no plausible claim
against anyone on these grounds. Given that, there's no excuse for playing
it "safe" as they try to steal one.

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:

> Please stop worrying and educate yourself.  This is just muddying up the
> mail list and the topic.
>
> All this angst is easily dispelled.  Consider this quote from the
> article  below:
>
> "SCO/Caldera's claim to own the scalability techniques certainly cannot
> be supported from the feature list of its own SCO OpenServer, a genetic
> Unix. The latest version[43] advertises SMP up to only 4 processors (a
> level which SCO's complaint dismisses as inadequate), no LVM, no NUMA,
> and no hot-swapping. That is, SCO/Caldera is alleging that IBM
> misappropriated from SCO technologies which do not appear in SCO's own
> product."
>
> How can IBM steal something SCO doesn't have?
>
> Here is the article:
> http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html
>
> A couple of other good items to look at:
> http://www.cybersource.com.au/users/conz/linux_vs_sco_matrix.html
> http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_v._IBM_Linux_lawsuit
>
> "From the moment that SCO distributed that code under the GNU General
> Public License, they would have given everybody in the world the right
> to copy, modify and distribute that code freely," ... "From the moment
> SCO distributed the Linux kernel under GPL, they licensed the use.
> Always. That's what our license says."
>
> "I allege that SCO is full of it, and that the Linux process is already
> the most transparent process in the whole industry. Let's face it,
> nobody else even comes close to being as good at showing the evolution
> and source of every single line of code out there." - Linus
>
> "As to its trade secret claims, which are the only claims actually made
> in the lawsuit against IBM, there remains the simple fact that SCO has
> for years distributed copies of the kernel, Linux, as part of GNU/Linux
> free software systems. [...] There is simply no legal basis on which SCO
> can claim trade secret liability in others for material it widely and
> commercially published itself under a license that specifically
> permitted unrestricted copying and distribution."
>
>
> And a very comprehensive (not for the faint of heart or the
> un-obssessive):
> http://sco.iwethey.org/
>
> Not taking time to understand the issue contributes to the FUD.  Please
> take the time to read these resources.  I'd be pleased if others on this
> list can provide better insight or knowledge than these articles, but
> I'd also be very surprised.  RTFM, please.
>
> Cheers,
> Bret
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:20, Jody Grafals wrote:
> >  I make a living (a meager one) building Linux server with debian for
> > small businesses. I have never needed to build a multi CPU system so I
> > always remove the systematic multiprocessing stuff from the kernel when
> > I build, shouldn’t this be good enough ? Going back to 2.2 would be a
> > nightmare. :-(
> >
> > Any thougths ?
> >
> >
> > Brian McGroarty wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:26:49AM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I guess I'll be going back to 2.2 until this nonsense blows
> > >>oversigh.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >For a business, I'd just check to be sure that 2.2 will be okay for
> > >your needs. But I wouldn't step back to 2.2 until SCO actually makes
> > >the claims public.
> > >
> > >If you're an individual, I'd definitely wait. I'd expect a long period
> > >of SCO waving its paper swords and grandstanding before they get to
> > >showing the specific alleged violations.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: SCO, IBM, and cladistics

[Andrew Perrin]

True enough - but in that case there's no use in identifying similarities
to begin with.

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Paul Johnson wrote:

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> > Unfortunately, though, in this case relatedness is not the same thing as
> > ancestry - one of the possible histories here is that SCO stole code from
> > GPLed code bases, not the reverse. In that case relatedness is high, but
> > directionality is the other way.
>
> I've been operating on the assumption that if there is any code in
> common, Linux to SCO is the way it went, not SCO to Linux.  SCO has a
> lot in common with the punch-happy trailer trash you see on COPS and
> that I occasionally have to deal with at work:  Can't keep their story
> straight, suspecious claims, withholding important details.
>
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Re: root device name w/kernel-image

[Drew Scott Daniels]

On 23 Jul 2003, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 16:45, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
> > With the kernel image from a disk (2.4.20-bf2.4) and the root device set
> > to /dev/hda1 my "computer" boots up fine. With newer 2.4 kernel images
> > (kernel-image-2.4-386, kernel-image-2.4.21-1-386
> > kernel-image-2.4.21-2-386) I can't seem to boot.
> >
> > I've tried:
> > root=/dev/hda1
> > root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
> > root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1
> >
> > I tried these with and without the devfsd package installed and there
> > didn't seem to be a difference.
> >
>
> What filesystem is on your root and does the new kernel have built-in
> support for it ? I dont think having a module is adequate since the
> kernel wont be able to access the filesystem to load the module
>
ext2. I would hope that the Debian distributed kernel would have built in
support for ext2.

 Drew Daniels


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Re: incomplete shutdown?

[David Z Maze]

Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I managed to eliminate the graphic login by unlinking the k, x, and g 
> desktops in /etc/rc2.d.  That did what I expected, and allowed me to 
> login at the terminal.  But 'shutdown now' seems to only partly shut 
> down, leaving me with a 'Enter root password... or ctl-D for...' 
> message.  Is it okay to power down from that state?

No.  The default action of shutdown(8) is to drop down to single-user
mode; if you pressed C-d here, your system would come back up
(probably in runlevel 2).  While most of the system daemons have been
shut down, you haven't done things like unmount filesystems that are
important for a clean shutdown.  You probably mean 'shutdown -h now';
type 'man shutdown' for more information.

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crack traces in /var ?

[Andreas von Heydwolff]

Hi all,

Google didn't yield anything specific, so does anyone know what sort of 
crack my desktop machine (NAT behind an up to date woody stable iptables 
firewall) seems to have suffered? Symptoms are

a dir named /var/bobsdata, containing "admin.pwd" with a string like 
$1$WmspYkT9$POV... and subdirs current/process, containing "cmdloop" and 
"check_loop". I also found a crontab entry

0-59/5 * * * * root /var/bobsdata/current/process/check_loop

My firewall sometimes displays packets to ports that are used by trin00 
and subseven with a DST address of my internal network.

chkrootkit reported nothing unusual.

Tiger gives me about 30 messages about standard binaries such as

--WARN-- [sig004w] None of the following versions of /usr/bin/passwd
 (-rwsr-xr-x) matched the /usr/bin/passwd on this machine.
 >> Linux 2.0.35
Therefore I cleaned the deb cache, did an apt-get install --reinstall of 
all mentioned packages and still am getting this set of warnings. 
Considering earlier experiences with tiger I wonder if this is a 
Debian-specific tiger problem and a false positive just as the 
complaints about

--FAIL-- [pass009e] Login daemon has a user id of 1.
--FAIL-- [pass009e] Login daemon has a group id of 1.
(Debian default, no?)

and a trace of Hylafax:

--FAIL-- [pass009e] Login faxmaster has more than 8 characters.
--FAIL-- [pass009e] Group faxmaster has more than 8 characters.
Would you think with deleting the /var/bobsdata dir, the crontab entry 
and my --reinstall I have stopped being a DDoS client and can skip a new 
install of my machine? Any ideas appreciated...

Andreas

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Re: Some shell's problem

[Johannes Zarl]

> >
> > look in
> >
> > ~/.kde/Autostart
> >
> > Make a file
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> > export ...
> >
> > Change its permissions to executable,
> >
> > This should work

No, it shouldn't.

Whenever you put something into ~/.kde/Autostart, it gets _executed_ on KDE 
startup. That means all exports in the script are only valid for the 
script itself and its child-processes.

If you want to change your environment for more than just this script, you 
have to have your instructions sourced by bash (or your favourite shell). 
For bash, this means you should write your exports into your 
~/.bash_profile, some other shells use ~/.profile (i think).

If you want to make your export global, then you may wish to put it into 
your /etc/profile, wich is the system-wide .profile for bourne-shell and 
compatibles.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Difference between dhcp clients

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:14:46PM -0400, Nicolas wrote:
> Which of the dhcp client is the best for a router/firewall?
> dhcp-client, dhcp3-client, dhcpcd or udhcpc?

I go with dhcp3-client because it's the current version and it works.

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Re: ATI releases update Linux drivers for Xfree 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 10:25:23PM -0500, Nick Lidakis wrote:
> I thought someone on the list might want to know that ATI released 
> updated drivers for their Radeon Fire GL and consumer 8500 series and 
> above video cards.

Anything's gotta be better than what I've got right now...anybody know
the ETA of seeing this in Debianized form?

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Re: flphoto program to deb?

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 09:28:49AM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
   > 
   > BTW, I have not yet tried flphoto's rotation. Will come back after some
   > more experiments :-)
   > 
Am back after my trials with flphoto. It rotates in a lossless fashion
and has an option of storing the exif data. Checked it and it tallied
exactly with the original.

A fall out of this, I do not have to go to the other os to rotate my
images losslessly retaining the exif data. 

If only, I could get the gphoto2 cvs debs, then my Canon A70 would be
easily recognised.

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Re: root device name w/kernel-image

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:52:52AM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2003, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 16:45, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
> > > With the kernel image from a disk (2.4.20-bf2.4) and the root
> > > device set to /dev/hda1 my "computer" boots up fine. With newer
> > > 2.4 kernel images (kernel-image-2.4-386, kernel-image-2.4.21-1-386
> > > kernel-image-2.4.21-2-386) I can't seem to boot.
> > >
> > > I've tried:
> > > root=/dev/hda1
> > > root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
> > > root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1
> > >
> > > I tried these with and without the devfsd package installed and
> > > there didn't seem to be a difference.
> >
> > What filesystem is on your root and does the new kernel have
> > built-in support for it ? I dont think having a module is adequate
> > since the kernel wont be able to access the filesystem to load the
> > module
> 
> ext2. I would hope that the Debian distributed kernel would have built
> in support for ext2.

It may well expect you to use an initrd for that.

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updates *always* updating same three (3) packages ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

Recently, apt-get update updates the same three (3) packages -- to
themselves -- since that version to which they update is already
installed, and functioning ;>

# sudo dpkg -l po-debconf spamassassin spamc
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  po-debconf 0.7.1  Manage translated Debconf templates files wi
ii  spamassassin   2.55-3 Perl-based spam filter using text analysis
ii  spamc  2.55-3 Client for perl-based spam filtering daemon


# sudo apt-get -u --fix-missing dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  aptitude debconf kdeartwork libsane synaptic w3m 
The following packages will be upgraded
  po-debconf spamassassin spamc 
3 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6  not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/591kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 98788 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace po-debconf 0.7.1 (using
.../po-debconf_0.7.1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement po-debconf ...
Preparing to replace spamc 2.55-3 (using
.../archives/spamc_2.55-3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement spamc ...
Preparing to replace spamassassin 2.55-3 (using
.../spamassassin_2.55-3_all.deb) ...
Stopping SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: spamd.
Unpacking replacement spamassassin ...
Setting up po-debconf (0.7.1) ...

Setting up spamc (2.55-3) ...
Setting up spamassassin (2.55-3) ...
Starting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: spamd.



I agree, this does not appear to indicate broken functionality; but, I
am quite curious how this can happen.

If dpkg -l knows a package is at a given level, how can apt-get update
even try to install that same package level?

What do you think?

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OT: Four leads = 10Mbit? (was: Network speed)

[breno . moiana]

>If it's running at 10Mbit, it will never be full duplex.  If you're
>running at 100, then it could be full or half.  If your network cables
>only have four leads connected, you're using 10.

I´ve noticed that some of the most recent 100Mbit cards I've been buying (Genius
low end cards, model GF100TXR4) have only four connection points on the RJ45
slot. However, the cards *do* work at 100Mbits. Anybody with the technical
knowledge on the subject could please explain that? Why do 3Coms have all 8
leads, while low-end use only 4? how does it affect the quality of connection?
Are all 8 leads really used?

Regards,

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x-pstn header?

[Steve Lamb]

Does anyone know what puts the x-pstn header into mail

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make menuconfig

[john gennard]

Normally, I've used make config for kernel recompiling.

I've decided to move a Woody installation to the 2.4.x
kernels (2.4.21 in fact) and use make menuconfig so
that I can 'go back' to alter mistakes.

The compilation went fine (I thought), but when I looked 
at the config file I see menuconfig has changed two of
my selections (my own fault for not checking before
'make dep' and 'make-kpkg').

How can I re-use menuconfig to alter just the two 
selections. I tried to run it again, but it uses the
original defaults and not the selections I have already
made.

I recollect someone asking the same question some time
ago, but I can't find the answer in the archives.

Can anyone help, please.

John.


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Re: make-kpkg fails on changelog with wrong name after patch - SOLVED

[Mark C]

I have now managed to solve it, it seems a bit weird way, but it works,
and I've tried it around 6 times now
(after each time rm -rf kernel-source-2.4.18).

1. extract kernel-source
2. copy over .config to kernel-source top level directory
3. make-kpkg --added-patches=grsecurity_2_4
4. hit CTRL-C after the patch has been applied to stop it.
5. make-kpkg clean
6. make-kpkg --append-to-version=-686-grsec-1.9.4 --initrd kernel-image

I have read the man pages from top > bottom and this seems the only other
way to get it to work.

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Re: OT: Four leads = 10Mbit? (was: Network speed)

[Jamin W. Collins]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:50:48AM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> 
> >If it's running at 10Mbit, it will never be full duplex.  If you're
> >running at 100, then it could be full or half.  If your network
> >cables only have four leads connected, you're using 10.
> 
> I?ve noticed that some of the most recent 100Mbit cards I've been
> buying (Genius low end cards, model GF100TXR4) have only four
> connection points on the RJ45 slot. However, the cards *do* work at
> 100Mbits. Anybody with the technical knowledge on the subject could
> please explain that? Why do 3Coms have all 8 leads, while low-end use
> only 4? how does it affect the quality of connection?  Are all 8 leads
> really used?

No, only 4 leads are needed for both 10 and 100 Mbit connections:

   http://www.makeitsimple.com/how-to/dyi_crossover.htm
   
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Re: flphoto program to deb?

[christophe barbe]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 07:47:47PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> If only, I could get the gphoto2 cvs debs, then my Canon A70 would be
> easily recognised.

It's your lucky day. You can find gphoto2 packages from the last release
candidate at:
   http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/gphoto2/
Please report any problem to me.

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Re: make-kpkg fails on changelog with wrong name after patch -SOLVED

[Benedict Verheyen]

Op do 24-07-2003, om 16:58 schreef Mark C:
> I have now managed to solve it, it seems a bit weird way, but it works,
> and I've tried it around 6 times now
> (after each time rm -rf kernel-source-2.4.18).
> 
> 1. extract kernel-source
> 2. copy over .config to kernel-source top level directory
> 3. make-kpkg --added-patches=grsecurity_2_4
> 4. hit CTRL-C after the patch has been applied to stop it.
> 5. make-kpkg clean
> 6. make-kpkg --append-to-version=-686-grsec-1.9.4 --initrd kernel-image
> 
> I have read the man pages from top > bottom and this seems the only other
> way to get it to work.
> 
> Mark

You can also use patch -p1 path_to_path in the /usr/src/linux directory
to apply the patch and then use steps 5 & 6.
That's what i did to apply the debian-logo patch. It also didn't work
when using the --added-patches switch so i had to apply the patch
manually via the patch command. That worked like a charm.

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Re: x-pstn header?

[Nathan Poznick]

Thus spake Steve Lamb:
> Does anyone know what puts the x-pstn header into mail

I believe it's Trend Micro Spam Prevention Service


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error trying to upgrade gzip

[Rodney D. Myers]

I'm trying to upgrade gzip, but it keeps aborting with this error
message;

sudo aptitude install gzip
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  apache apache-common attr automake1.7 bash cpp cvs debhelper dialog
  efax-gtk enigma enscript flex foomatic-bin foomatic-db-engine
fortune-mod  fortunes-min g++ gaim gawk gcc gconf2 gettext gettext-base
gettext-el  gnupg initrd-tools kernel-package libacl1 libart-2.0-2
libart-2.0-dev  libattr1 libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libc6-dev
libdate-manip-perl  libgconf2-4 libgd-gif1 libgdbmg1 libgnome2-0
libgnome2-common  libgtkxmhtml1 libldap2 libmysqlclient12 libnessus2
libntfs4 liborbit2  libpam-modules libpam-runtime libpam0g libpam0g-dev
libpng12-0  libsdl-image1.2 libwine libwine-print libwine-twain make
man-db mkisofs  mysql-client mysql-common mysql-server nessus-plugins
ntfstools python  python-tk python2.2 python2.2-tk reportbug ssh stunnel
tetex-extra  urlview wine wine-utils xfig xmms-modplug
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gzip
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 77 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/68.7kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Y
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] y
Writing extended state information... Done
(Reading database ... 86566 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace gzip 1.3.5-6 (using
.../archives/gzip_1.3.5-7_i386.deb) .../var/lib/dpkg/info/gzip.prerm:
line 4:  8497 Segmentation fault  install-info --quiet --remove
/usr/share/info/gzip.info dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script
returned error exit status 139 dpkg - trying script from the new package
instead .../var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/prerm: line 4:  8499 Segmentation fault 
install-info --quiet --remove /usr/share/info/gzip.info dpkg: error
processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gzip_1.3.5-7_i386.deb (--unpack):
subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 139 Errors
were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/gzip_1.3.5-7_i386.deb E: Sub-process
/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Ack!  Something bad happened
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Re: First mail from my Linux

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:31:49AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
   > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:33:53PM -0700, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
   > > You may not want to hear this, but I far prefer
   > > Midnight Commander (mc) on a virtual console. I think
   > > it looks better and is easier to use than a GUI file
   > > manager.
   > 
   > You may be interested to know that mc appears to be a clone of
   > Microsoft DOSSHELL that came with IBM and MS-DOS 4.0 through IBM and
   > MS-DOS 6.22.  It was dropped in IBM-DOS 7.0 and MS Windows95.
   > 
Are you sure? Is it not a clone of Norton Commander for DOS?

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Logging into gdm as root

[Bill K]

Hi. I just installed debian woody and have gdm installed along with gnome
(and sawfish).  For some reason I cannot log into X as the root user.
Furthermore, I cannot use pon to establish a ppp connection as the non-root
user. Does anyone have any solutions to either of these problems. Thanks.


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do I need to re-install from scratch?

[Richard Lyons]

Can anyone advise me?  I installed Woody from CD on a laptop without 
an internet connection.  Now, when I plug in the NIC (PCcard), I 
cannot get any connection - when I try 
# ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.7 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
I get
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device

If I hot-plug it while the system is up, it says
cs: cb_alloc(bus 7): vendor 0x10ec, device 0x8139
so it knows it is there.
I have configured /etc/hosts, /etc/network/interfaces, and so on.

Do I need to redo the whole install, or configure something else?

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OT: card catalog system for public library?

[Henry House]

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My local public library wants to replace its antiquated card catalog system
with something completely modern. Unfortunately, their response to my local
LUG's offers of help is that they want software that is off-the-shelf and
used by other libraries, not something new or homebrewish. So my question is
whether there is any Free package that meets the needs of a typical community
library AND is alreadt in use somewhere and is proven bug-free.  Surely there
must be something of the soft in the world? Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Re: do I need to re-install from scratch?

[Nicos Gollan]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 18:14, Richard Lyons wrote:
> Can anyone advise me?  I installed Woody from CD on a laptop without
> an internet connection.  Now, when I plug in the NIC (PCcard), I
> cannot get any connection - when I try
> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.7 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> I get
> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>
> If I hot-plug it while the system is up, it says
> cs: cb_alloc(bus 7): vendor 0x10ec, device 0x8139
> so it knows it is there.
> I have configured /etc/hosts, /etc/network/interfaces, and so on.
>
> Do I need to redo the whole install, or configure something else?

In /etc/pcmcia should be some file called network.options or similar. That's 
where PCMCIA/PCCard network config goes.

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Re: ATI releases update Linux drivers for Xfree 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3

[Harshwardhan Nagaonkar]

Paul Johnson wrote:
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I thought someone on the list might want to know that ATI released 
updated drivers for their Radeon Fire GL and consumer 8500 series and 
above video cards.


Anything's gotta be better than what I've got right now...anybody know
the ETA of seeing this in Debianized form?
Well, they do have an rpm of the driver. I just convert it into a .deb 
with alien and then I installed it (incidentally, ATI recommended alien 
for debian users in their "Release Notes" readme.

You also need a kernel module. And the drivers are proprietary right 
(?). Is it possible to make a debian package that goes to ATI's website 
and download stuff??

I've got it working here with not much hoo-haa. I did the same thing as 
when I first got the older driver in april...

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Re: Logging into gdm as root

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

Bill K wrote:

Hi. I just installed debian woody and have gdm installed along with gnome
(and sawfish).  For some reason I cannot log into X as the root user.
This is the normal default behaviour, as you would normally never need 
to do this. If you feel you must, there is a setting in the gdm 
configuration file (not difficult to find), which will allow root to log in.

Furthermore, I cannot use pon to establish a ppp connection as the non-root
user. Does anyone have any solutions to either of these problems. Thanks.
As root, do this (assuming your user id is "bill"):

# adduser bill dip

Then log all the way out and back in again, and you will be able to use pon.

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Re: Logging into gdm as root

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:46:10AM -0400, Bill K wrote:
> Hi. I just installed debian woody and have gdm installed along with
> gnome (and sawfish).  For some reason I cannot log into X as the root
> user.

Good, that's by design. Don't use X as root, really. (There's a flag in
/etc/gdm/gdm.conf to change this if you have to, but please don't ...)

> Furthermore, I cannot use pon to establish a ppp connection as the
> non-root user.

Add your non-root user to the 'dip' group (using 'adduser' as root),
then log out and back in.

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All-in-One flash card reader.

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the usb-storage driver, lsmod and dmesg confirm this.
When I tried to mount the flash card device /dev/sda1,
I got an I/O Error.  My assumption is that it is trying
to read from some other flash chip that I have and not
my compact flash card.  I also tried sd[b-d] and get
no device/bad address errors.  Does linux not support
flash cards with more then one flash bay?

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Re: OT: card catalog system for public library?

[Favio Garcia]

You should check the Koha libray system at www.koha.org

Cheers



On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Henry House wrote:

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> My local public library wants to replace its antiquated card catalog system
> with something completely modern. Unfortunately, their response to my local
> LUG's offers of help is that they want software that is off-the-shelf and
> used by other libraries, not something new or homebrewish. So my question is
> whether there is any Free package that meets the needs of a typical community
> library AND is alreadt in use somewhere and is proven bug-free.  Surely there
> must be something of the soft in the world? Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
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Re: make-kpkg fails on changelog with wrong name after patch -SOLVED

[Mark C]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 16:50, Benedict Verheyen wrote:

> You can also use patch -p1 path_to_path in the /usr/src/linux directory
> to apply the patch and then use steps 5 & 6.
> That's what i did to apply the debian-logo patch. It also didn't work
> when using the --added-patches switch so i had to apply the patch
> manually via the patch command. That worked like a charm.

Thats what I also tried, as well :)

I did try the debian boot logo, but initrd bombed when it tried to load,
but that probably something else (now if only I could get the bootsplash
working correctly).

BTW is it possible to download a pure kernel source and use make-kpkg to
build a .deb ?

I did try this on 2.4.21, but it kept failing on undefined symbols
errors on the modules, right at the end.


Mark


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Re: All-in-One flash card reader.

[Dale Hair]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:38, Loren M Lang wrote:
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> I have a flash card reader which is designed to read
> from 5 different types of flash cards that I'm trying
> to get working with debian.  I plugged it into my
> linux box with a flash card with some data on it and
> linux detected the device being attached and loaded
> the usb-storage driver, lsmod and dmesg confirm this.
> When I tried to mount the flash card device /dev/sda1,
> I got an I/O Error.  My assumption is that it is trying
> to read from some other flash chip that I have and not
> my compact flash card.  I also tried sd[b-d] and get
> no device/bad address errors.  Does linux not support
> flash cards with more then one flash bay?
> 

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Re: flphoto program to deb?

[Antonio Rodr]

Hey Christophe, you seem to be the man.
I have a Sony DVD camcorder (DCR TRV 33). Are there any USB recognitions plans for it? 
I think firewire already works there, I am not sure...
Thanks
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:39:28 -0400
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> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 07:47:47PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> > If only, I could get the gphoto2 cvs debs, then my Canon A70 would
> > be easily recognised.
> 
> It's your lucky day. You can find gphoto2 packages from the last
> release candidate at:
>http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/gphoto2/
> Please report any problem to me.
> 
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Re: OT: card catalog system for public library?

[Andrew Perrin]

I just happened to have the following message still around, because I'm
interested in cataloguing systems.  I haven't tried it at all, but it
might fit your needs:

Date: 03 Sep 2002 19:14:20 +0200
From: tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] a library software toolkit

http://www.tgds.net/lmstk/

Is the toolkit I have developped for art center libraries and
documentary services. I think that it may be easily transformed for most
libraries.

For the moment the user mode only is available. The administration
interface is being translated and upgraded to the 1.1 version.
Eventually the JSP pages and the database schema will be available for
download. The licence will be GPL or LGPL(convince me to use another
licence if you will) for this english language version.  A Paypal
donation button will appear on the site at the same time as the files. A
commercial French version exists and is in constant development and
activly being sold to art centers throughout France.

The application was developped in Dreamweaver and is being maintained in
Dreamweaver MX so that it may be personalized by the end user. Tomcat
4.x app server and Postgresql 7.2.1.

Vital statistics: 8900 artists, 4500 authors, 2100 editors and 5100
books and magazines.

This database has been in use since January. No major bugs have surfaced
to date (touching wood here).

Questions and comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers

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> My local public library wants to replace its antiquated card catalog system
> with something completely modern. Unfortunately, their response to my local
> LUG's offers of help is that they want software that is off-the-shelf and
> used by other libraries, not something new or homebrewish. So my question is
> whether there is any Free package that meets the needs of a typical community
> library AND is alreadt in use somewhere and is proven bug-free.  Surely there
> must be something of the soft in the world? Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
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Re: ATI releases update Linux drivers for Xfree 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3

[Nick Lidakis]

Paul Johnson wrote:



Anything's gotta be better than what I've got right now...anybody know
the ETA of seeing this in Debianized form?
 

Check out the release notes for the driver. They provide specific 
instructions on how to get the RPM install with Debian. I got it going 
ina  few minutes using alien and dpkg.

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Restore a debian backup

[Erhard Schultchen]

Hi,

I'm looking for the right way to restore a backuped debian system: The
main system ist archived by "dar", excluding all binaries in /sbin, /bin
and the complete /usr directory. There is a list of alle installed
packages, retrieved by dpkg --get-selection
The backup medium (harddisk) contains a very fundamental debian/woody
system.

For the moment, I would consider the following to restore the system:

* Boot the backup drive, fdisk & mkfs the new drive and mount it
(/mnt/restore for example).

* copy the running woody system to the new drive, in order to obtain a
runnable system

* restore the backup

* chroot to /mnt/restore

* apt-get update && dpkg --set-selection, apt-get dselect-upgrade and
install

* lilo && reboot

My concern is about restoring the backup before re-installing the
packages. Wouldn't that let dpkg think that all packages are installed
correctly? (Because /var/lib/dpkg/status) Note that the other order,
first install, than restore would not be a lot better: The backup might
contain package versions that might be different from the ones installed

Is it save to exclude
/var/lib/dpkg from the backup as long as a package list is available?

Second question: Is there a (direct) way to re-install a package without
having to remove and install it again? For example, if
/usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE got lost and removing/installing is difficult
because of dependencies.

Regards and TIA,
Erhard




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Re: can't configure authentication in exim (SOLVED!)

[Francesc Oller]

The problem was that Lotus Domino smtp server answers to EHLO AUTH with

250-AUTH=LOGIN

The equal sign (=) is non-standard, should be a blank as per specs, but this 
is common practice in some Windows related MUAs, MTAs.

exim author Philip Hazel (with good reasons) refuses to change exim's code to 
accept above syntax, because it's non standard, but this makes us, poor users 
who have to use whatever smtp server our isp provides us with, to be stuck.

I've patched exim's sources:

change 

if (regex_AUTH == NULL) regex_AUTH =
  regex_must_compile("\\n250[\\s\\-]AUTH\\s+([\\-\\w\\s]+)(?:\\n|$)",
FALSE,TRUE);

by:

if (regex_AUTH == NULL) regex_AUTH =
  regex_must_compile("\\n250[\\s\\-]AUTH(?:\\s+|=)([\\-\\w\\s]+)(?:\\n|$)",
FALSE,TRUE);

in deliver.c effectively changing a sequence of spaces by the same sequence 
OR =. Now it works :-)

Once again advantadges and drawbacks of Linux vs. Windows come into play. I 
cannot tell my mother to configure exim while in Windows she only has to 
check a box. OTOH would I come across a problem like this in Window$ I 
couldn't solve it since its proprietary.

When all else fails use the souce Luke!

Cheers

Francesc Oller


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Re: Need GNU-based live CD [WAS - Re: Important!]

[Patrick Albuquerque]

Sunil wrote up a step by step account of modifying Knoppix at:

http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue87/sunil.html

HTH,
Patrick.
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solved alsa and alsaconf problem with kernel 2.6.0-test1

[Micha Feigin]

This problem came up in the thread concerning kernel 2.6.0-test1 and the
alsa problem.
Apparently alsaconf expects the kernel modules to end with .o but the
ending was change somewhere along the 2.5 kernel line to .ko (don't know
where exactly but certainly appears with 2.5.75 and 2.5.69).
A crude workaround is to change all appearances of .o in the
/usr/sbin/alsaconf script to .ko
This should be really be done with support for both options, if anyone
can point me in the direction of who to contact.

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Re: x-pstn header?

[Steve Lamb]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:54:52 -0500
Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thus spake Steve Lamb:
> > Does anyone know what puts the x-pstn header into mail
 
> I believe it's Trend Micro Spam Prevention Service

That would be it.  Thanks for the help.

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abcde is failing me

[Antonio RodrX]

If I run it as root, it works good. If I run it as user, not so. I've tweaked the 
$HOME/.abcde.conf and have been able to make the list of errors get smaller, but 
still. Next I copy what I keep getting. It seems as if cdparanoia is not working fully 
for the user. However, at the command prompt it works for the user. I tried -v, didn't 
help me much.
Output of abcde:
chat:~/musica$ abcde -a encode
/usr/bin/abcde: cddb,read,encode,tag,move,playlist,clean: command not found
/usr/bin/abcde: encode: command not found
/usr/bin/abcde: tag: command not found
/usr/bin/abcde: move: command not found
/usr/bin/abcde: playlist: command not found
Getting CD track info... Grabbing entire CD - tracks: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
abcde: attempting to resume from /home/tony/musica/abcde.c407e10e..
Grabbing track 1...
cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
(C) 2001 Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Xiphophorus

Report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/


Unable to open cdrom drive; -v will give more information.
The following commands failed to run:
readtrack-1: cdparanoia  returned code 1
Finished. Not cleaning /home/tony/musica/abcde.c407e10e.
chat:~/musica$ 


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Re:Samba Problem

[Don Nash]

I snipped this from the samba How-To at samba.org:

encrypt passwords is necessary unless you need to provide support for
Windows 95/NT computers. It's recommended that you read ENCRYPTION.txt,
WIN95.txt, and WinNT.txt in the Samba documentation. The default is
"no", although most people will want to choose "yes"
(You'll want to edit your smb.conf to include this parameter in
[Global], I think)

You can also edit the Windows registry to use plain text passwords, but
I think the above is easier.

Don Nash



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how do i type my own words

[James]

Creating a patched binary package

[Paul Worrall]

Hi all,

I wish to create and install a patched version of fetchmail.  I would
like to take the source package plus the patch file and produce my own
binary package. What is the best way to do this?

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installation of package installer

[Sam Virgillo]

I have an embedded version of Debian running on an Intel 486 single board
computer.  I cannot find the Apt-get program or the dpkg program to install
packages.  If I download these apps from your site they are in the .deb
package format and I have no way to install them (catch 22).  Can I get just
a .tar or .gz file of these or other apps?



Thanks,

Sam Virgillo
Total RF Marketing, Inc.
215.633.1000 main number
215.633.1022 direct line
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Re: how do i type my own words

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 15:53, James wrote:

What the heck does that mean?  Is it zen?
 
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setting up an openafs server on Debian

[Faheem Mitha]

Dear People,

I just sent the following, rather clueless, and somewhat Debian-specific
message to the openafs-info mailing list. If anyone has any insights to
share they would be welcome. Does anyone here have any experience setting
up an openafs server on Debian and would be willing to share his
experiences? If it is not already obvious, I know almost nothing about
kerberos and precious little about afs. You can cc me if you want, though
I can check replies via gmane. Thanks.

Faheem.

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:45:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Faheem Mitha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: some simple openafs questions


Dear People,

I'm ashamed to admit that I have been administering openafs clients on
Linux for over two years, but still lack a basic understanding of how
openafs actually works. So here are some very simple and probably
rather silly questions. They are regarding things where I find the
online documentation not completely clear. I should say that I use
openafs on Debian (testing), which does so much of the configuration
that it makes it easy to be ignorant, though the choice of course is
mine. In what follows, the documentation refers to that obtained by
following the Documentation link from openafs.org, which seems to be
mostly IBM's own documentation.

Also, I'm using AFS on the University of North Carolina campus.

1) When using an afs client, the command `klog' fetches tokens from
   the campus server. Am I correct in thinking that this fetching
   involves use of kerberos on the campus server? I don't have
   kerberos installed on my client machine, though I have seen
   descriptions which involve installation of kerberos on the client
   machine. Is kerberos not required at the client end?

2) I'm considering trying to install a Openafs server on a Debian
   machine. I am not completely clear from the documentation whether
   it is actually nececssary to install and configure kerberos
   (kerberos 5 seems to be the preferred version). Parts of the
   documentation suggest that one could use the `afs authentication
   system', whatever this is. Adding to my confusion is that the
   openafs debian packages openafs-dbserver and openafs-fileserver do
   not mention kerberos even as a recommends.

   If it is not necessary, is it still desirable to use kerberos?

Does a tutorial for AFS server installation on Debian exist anywhere?
My impression is no.

Thanks in advance. Please cc me on any reply.

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video4linux (quickcam) on unstable - /dev/???

[Chris Searle]

Unstable running the latest unstable devfs.

Just downloaded kernel-source-2.4.21 and qce-source.

Built the kernel with make-kpkg and got two deb files:

kernel-image-2.4.21_10.00.Custom_i386.deb and
qce-modules-2.4.21_0.40d-2+2.4.21+10.00.Custom_i386.deb.

Installed - rebooted.

lsmod shows:

Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
apm10060   2  (autoclean)
mod_quickcam   38096   0  (unused)
videodev6144   1  [mod_quickcam]
keybdev 2116   0  (unused)
usbkbd  3640   0  (unused)
input   3488   0  [keybdev usbkbd]
usb-uhci   23696   0  (unused)
usbcore63340   1  [mod_quickcam usbkbd usb-uhci]

So - videodev is loaded and used by quickcam.

The camera is detected at boot:

kernel: uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1
kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00
kernel: usb.c: registered new driver quickcam
kernel: USB Quickcam Class ff SubClass ff idVendor 46d idProduct 870
kernel: USB Quickcam camera found using: $Id: quickcam.c,v 1.111 2003/01/27 09:41:03 
tuukkat Exp $
kernel: quickcam: probe of HDCS1000 sensor = 10 02 id: 08
kernel: quickcam: probe of BP100 sensor = 00 10 id: 64
kernel: quickcam: probe of VV6410 sensor = 00 10 id: 19
kernel: quickcam: probe of HDCS1020 sensor = 10 10 id: 10
kernel: quickcam: HDCS1020 sensor detected

Here's the options I used in the kernel build.

#
# Video For Linux
#
CONFIG_VIDEO_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT=m

#
# Video Adapters
#
CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_PMS=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_BWQCAM=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_CQCAM=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_W9966=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_CPIA=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_CPIA_PP=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_CPIA_USB=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5249=m
CONFIG_TUNER_3036=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_STRADIS=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN_BUZ=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN_DC10=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN_LML33=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_ZR36120=m
# CONFIG_VIDEO_MEYE is not set


Now - I did this a long while ago (on testing) and IIRC I did the same
things - but that time I got a /dev/video0 etc. This time I have
nothing /dev/vid*

So - where did I screw up or what is the device called now? I need to
use this with camserv.

Any hints appreciated

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Wireless access point association daemon?

[Thomas Hood]

I have a laptop with an 802.11b card.  When I am in the vicinity
of an access point (AP) I can see the AP's details by running
"iwlist IFACE scan".  However, in order to associate to APs 
with encryption switched on I need to set the encryption key
using "iwconfig IFACE enc KEY".

My question is: has someone written a utility that will do this
automatically -- a utility that will set the encryption key 
according to the access points that show up in the scan?  

I have searched the web for a while and what I find are sniffing
and cracking programs.  That is not what I am looking for.   I
am not interesting in collecting packets and I know the
encryption keys I need to access these networks.  I just want
a program that will automate the process of association.

I could write this program myself.  In its simplest form it can
be done in one line of shell script.  However, making the
program work reliably would take more work.  I would like to
know if anyone has already done this work for me.

TIA for any tips you can provide.
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Re: First mail from my Linux

[Alan Connor]

> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 24 13:20:34 2003



> ...
> Description: Midnight Commander - A powerful file manager. - normal
> version Midnight Commander is a feature-rich file manager. It has mouse
> support in a linux console and in an xterm. It started as a Norton
> Commander clone but now it is far superior to it. Among other things it
> can do FTP, includes a hex editor, comes with an internal editor which
> can be invoked separately as 'mcedit' and lets you do most system
> administration tasks.
> 
> Dosshell was more likely another example of Microsoft's way of finding
> new features for Dos/Windows - find a feature/program that you like
> and imitate it.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jacob
> 
> 

mc is a WONDERFUL tool. mc in screen in an xterm is the penquin's honk :-)

Alan


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Running processes unniced as a normal user.

[Mike Mestnik]

I was hoping there was an easy unix(debian,posix) way of doing this.  Running 
processes unniced as
a normal user.  AFAIN I need to be suid0 for this, but I can't find any examples in 
yahoo.

The problem is that I'm using ANDeamon that puts gkrellm at 15(nice:), this is what I 
like.  What
I don't like is an exec xmms from the niced gkrellm.  This causes xmms to be 
unusable(as exec
keeps the nice), it must be not nice and RTS even.  A nice value of 0 is needed for 
xmms ALL WAYS.
 Thankfully you also need to be in group audio to use xmms, so I don't mind uses in 
that group to
initially run xmms suid0.

Problem 1: I can't just use a shell script suid0 to renice and drop privs.  I'm told 
this is
wrong, I have no reason to question this.
Problem 2: There is no util currently available that I know of that deals with this.  
su, nice,
renice, and the like don't touch it.  Non of them have a config like sudo saying who 
and when can
nice what.
Problem 3: I could not find any example of sudo doing this.

Caveats: I only wont to be nice 0, that's all.

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Re: Samba Password Expiration

[Ian Melnick]

Well, all the users in shadow -- their passwords expire in 9 days.
The machine account doesn't have anything specified in the password
expiration field; I assume that must mean that it just does not expire
at all. For the user accounts, in the following field, is a 7,
representing that 7 days before the password will expire, the user will
be warned.

Is it possible that the machine account's expiration time affects the
time that a user must change his password? If there's nothing in that
field, does that imply no expiration, or default expiration period?

Thanks




!  (on Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 10:49:57AM +0200), in 'Re: Samba Password Expiration':
> Hello Ian!
> 
> At Wednesday 23 July 2003 04:00 Ian Melnick wrote:
> 
> > I recently upgraded to sarge, and now my samba passwords expire
> > every couple of weeks (i think). I also think it's using this new
> > password database. How do I turn off password expiration?
> 
> Do only the samba passwords expire, or is it the account passwords
> which expire?
> In the latter case take a look at the /etc/shadow file and man shadow.
> Otherwise I don't know...
> 
> HTH,
> Flo


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Re: make menuconfig

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 20:31, john gennard wrote:
> Normally, I've used make config for kernel recompiling.
> 
> I've decided to move a Woody installation to the 2.4.x
> kernels (2.4.21 in fact) and use make menuconfig so
> that I can 'go back' to alter mistakes.
> 
> The compilation went fine (I thought), but when I looked 
> at the config file I see menuconfig has changed two of
> my selections (my own fault for not checking before
> 'make dep' and 'make-kpkg').
> 
> How can I re-use menuconfig to alter just the two 
> selections. I tried to run it again, but it uses the
> original defaults and not the selections I have already
> made.
> 
> I recollect someone asking the same question some time
> ago, but I can't find the answer in the archives.
> 
> Can anyone help, please.
> 
> John.
> 

make menuconfig (and any config actually) uses the .config file if it
exests. If it uses the default then the .config file was erased.
If you created a deb package (make-dpkg does that) then it will install
the config file you used under /boot/config-.
If you didn't install the package then you can in some temporary
directory do
ar x 
this will create several file. Open data.tar.gz and you will find the
config under boot/config-
copy this file to .config in the kernel source root directory and run
make menuconfig again.
BTW I don't think you need make dep before make-kpkg, I never use it and
never caused a problem.


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Re: root device name w/kernel-image

[Micha Feigin]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 17:23, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:52:52AM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
> > On 23 Jul 2003, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 16:45, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
> > > > With the kernel image from a disk (2.4.20-bf2.4) and the root
> > > > device set to /dev/hda1 my "computer" boots up fine. With newer
> > > > 2.4 kernel images (kernel-image-2.4-386, kernel-image-2.4.21-1-386
> > > > kernel-image-2.4.21-2-386) I can't seem to boot.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried:
> > > > root=/dev/hda1
> > > > root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
> > > > root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1
> > > >
> > > > I tried these with and without the devfsd package installed and
> > > > there didn't seem to be a difference.
> > >
> > > What filesystem is on your root and does the new kernel have
> > > built-in support for it ? I dont think having a module is adequate
> > > since the kernel wont be able to access the filesystem to load the
> > > module
> > 
> > ext2. I would hope that the Debian distributed kernel would have built
> > in support for ext2.
> 
> It may well expect you to use an initrd for that.
> 
> -- 
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> 

If my memory serves me right the packaged debian 2.4 kernels (except the
instelation disk kernel) all or most use an initrd.
The ones I installed did, but I didn't use a stock kernel in a long
time.
This requires adding an initrd line to lilo or whatever bootmanager you
use. I think its a boot option.
If I remeber correctly when you install the kernel it gives you a
message concerning what you need to do to get it working.



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Re: Unable to configure PS/2 Mouse in woody!

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 21:00, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> Hello
> 
> SRIKANTH NS wrote:
> 
> > I installed debian woody (3.0 r0)after wiping RH7.3. Machine Celeron
> > 900MHz, 128 MB RAM, i815e M/B ( Kobian brand ,16MB shared RAM) already
> > having Win98
> > and MDK9.1.
> > 
> > Installation went alright. Only X was the problem.
> > Error message was that unix fontpath having problem.
> > So I commented out the line unixfontpath :7100 in /etc/XF86Config-4
> > file.
> 
> The line is for the X font server xfs. Do 
> 
> apt-get install xfs
> 
> if you want to use it.
> 
> > Again errors, this time mouse goes unrecognised.
> > It is a PS2 Logitech Mouse in a PS/2 port.
> > It was detected without any problem in the earlier redhat and present
> > MDK9.1 and Win98 too.
> > Why it is so in debian?
> > Can anybody point any workaround to get X ?
> 
> Please check your config file and see if the mouse device is set to
> /dev/psaux. You can reconfigure XFree with debconf. Type
> 
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> 
> It would be easier to say what exactly the problem is if you gave us more
> information. The InputDevice section(s) of your XFree86Config(-4) would
> be helpful, as well as information from your XFree log file
> (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) regarding the mouse.
> 
> best regards
> Andreas Janssen
> 
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> 

It may be that the configuration is looking for you mouse under
/dev/mouse instead of the real device. I don't remember the default.
try as root
ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse
and see if it helps.
Also look at the error message and try to see where it looks for the
mouse at.
Is it a usb mouse or serial mouse, if so then if I am not mistaken you
need
/dev/input/mice
and make sure that you have the usb modules loaded.


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Re: cron, won't change time !

[David selby]

Shawn Lamson wrote:

On Thu, July 24 at  8:13 AM EDT
David selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

# /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab
# Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab'
# command to install the new version when you edit this file.
# This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs
do.
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
MAILTO=web
# m h dom mon dow user  command
25 1* * *   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.daily
47 6* * 7   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.weekly
52 61 * *   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.monthl
y
#
& changed cron.daily to 1:25 ... guess what 7:35 it executed ! I did a 
/etc/init.d/cron restart, 7:35, I did a system re-boot, 7:35 !

I checked out anacron, I don't see how this can have an effect

Any Ideas what I am doing wrong ?
   

I think if you man 5 crontab it says in a comment in the ample file that
the directory /etc/cron.d is now used for anachron.  Edit the file
/etc/cron.d/anachron... to me this system is doubled up and I would
comment out the lines in the system wide crontab - maybe this is wrong
and someone can point out why?
Shawn Lamson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Thanks for the heads up ... So /etc/crontab has ...

25 6 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report 
/etc/cron.daily

ie if anacron don't exist, execute cron.daily as a backup system ...

/etc/cron.d/anacron ...

30 7 * * * root test -x /etc/init.d/anacron && /etc/init.d/anacron start 
>/dev/n
ull

mmm ... and man 5 anacron has

EXAMPLE SYSTEM CRON FILE
This has the username field, as used by /etc/crontab.
# /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab
# Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab'
# command to install the new version when you edit this file.
# This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs do.
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
# m h dom mon dow usercommand
42 6 * * *rootrun-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
47 6 * * 7rootrun-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly
52 6 1 * *rootrun-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly
#
# Removed invocation of anacron, as this is now handled by a
# /etc/cron.d file
Kind of makes sense ...

Dave







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Linux 2.6.0-test1, PCMCIA modem

[Christopher Swingley]

Greetings!

I'm trying to figure out how to get 2.6.0-test1 running on a laptop.  
I've gotten it to run fine on many desktop systems, but on the laptop I 
just can't seem to figure out what I'm supposed to do in order to get a 
PCMCIA modem to work (the laptop has internal eth0, and a Winmodem).

Right now it boots up just fine with the modem card plugged in, but no 
modem.  When I unplug the card and plug it back in, cardmgr (from the 
Debian sid pcmcia-cs package) says:  'Module serial_cs not found'.  I've 
also got the Debian sid hotplug and module-init-tools packages 
installed.

When I try to build the pcmcia-cs-3.2.4 packages the configure fails.  
With 'cardbus = y' it says I must turn this option off.  With it off, 
the configure fails with '2.5.0 and later kernels require that PCMCIA be 
configured in the kernel source tree.'  But:

CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y

is in my /boot/config-2.6.0-test1

Does anyone know how to get a PCMCIA modem to work under 2.6.0-test1?

Thanks,

Chris
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Re: [Fwd: nautilus keeps scanning mount points]

[Micha Feigin]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 02:13, Mark Roach wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 03:10, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > I am running nautilus version 2.2.4 (from unstable) and autofs (ver 4)
> > The problem is that Nautilus keeps probing the mount points which consequently 
> > keeps
> > mounting the floppy and cdrom etc. This in turn occasionally pops up a
> > browsing window (the popping up behavior comes and goes and I don't know
> > what I do to trigger it).
> > How can I stop this behavior, since its quite annoying?
> 
> Hmm, this shouldn't be happening unless you have those mount points
> listed in /etc/fstab as well, I believe nautilus will stat every
> mountpoint in /etc/fstab every so often. It doesn't happen for me
> anyway.
> 
> HTH
> 
> -Mark

Its listed in fstab since I want a regular user to be able to eject the
cdrom. Is there another way to enable that without having it in fstab?
Wouldn't it be better for nautilus to look at /proc/mounts thus not
forcibly mounting those devices?


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Re: installation of package installer

[Sebastian Kapfer]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:10:07 +0200, Sam Virgillo wrote:

> I have an embedded version of Debian running on an Intel 486 single
> board computer.  I cannot find the Apt-get program or the dpkg program
> to install packages.  If I download these apps from your site they are
> in the .deb package format and I have no way to install them (catch 22).
> Can I get just a .tar or .gz file of these or other apps?

You can unpack any .deb file with the "ar" utility. In it, you'll find a
tar.gz archive with the actual files. Alternatively, there should be a
tar.gz with a basic Debian installation somewhere on the FTP.

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Re: ports and www.debian.org

[Andreas von Heydwolff]

ouch - I accidentally had blocked the host which I could unblock 
unknowingly with another rule. Sorry.

A.

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Re: Wireless access point association daemon?

[Jeremy T. Bouse]

For using my Cisco Aironet 350 on my Sony Vaio laptop that goes
between several WiFi networks using WEP I just created a script that I
use in /etc/network/interfaces that handles the mapping for me... The
script basically scans the network and tries to match an ESSID it finds
from scanning to a mapping config line...

What I end up with in the interfaces file is along the lines of:

mapping eth1 wifi0
script /path/to/get-essid.sh
map ESSID-Office wifi-office
map ESSID-Home wifi-home

iface wifi-home inet dhcp
wireless_mode managed
wireless_esside ESSID-Home
wireless_key <10 or 26 hexadecimal key>
wireless_enc on

iface wifi-office inet dhcp
wireless_mode managed
wireless_esside ESSID-Home
wireless_key <10 or 26 hexadecimal key>
wireless_enc on

I am not writing this from the laptop at the moment so I don't
have the get-essid.sh script handy but if there is interest I'll try to
get it posted later...

Regards,
Jeremy

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 10:18:25PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> I have a laptop with an 802.11b card.  When I am in the vicinity
> of an access point (AP) I can see the AP's details by running
> "iwlist IFACE scan".  However, in order to associate to APs 
> with encryption switched on I need to set the encryption key
> using "iwconfig IFACE enc KEY".
> 
> My question is: has someone written a utility that will do this
> automatically -- a utility that will set the encryption key 
> according to the access points that show up in the scan?  
> 
> I have searched the web for a while and what I find are sniffing
> and cracking programs.  That is not what I am looking for.   I
> am not interesting in collecting packets and I know the
> encryption keys I need to access these networks.  I just want
> a program that will automate the process of association.
> 
> I could write this program myself.  In its simplest form it can
> be done in one line of shell script.  However, making the
> program work reliably would take more work.  I would like to
> know if anyone has already done this work for me.
> 
> TIA for any tips you can provide.
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> 
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Re: virtual terminals

[Micha Feigin]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 08:52, Jeff Wiegley wrote:
> The file you probably want is /etc/inittab.
> 
> the lines in my (unstable) setup that control the virtual
> terminals are:
> 
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
> 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
> 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
> 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
> 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
> 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
> 
> But notice that only tty1 is started if I am in run level 5.
> 
> I just migrated to Debian myself. Just installing the
> x-windows-systems metapackage and kdm caused the kdm
> manager to launch and switch to what would be
> virtual terminal 7.  BUT I AM STILL IN RUN LEVEL 2!!
> (I think. at least thats the default run level from
> inittab.)
> 
> So what may have happened is that you may be more use
> to the RedHat way of doing things and you may have
> edited /etc/inittab to fire up at runlevel 5 the way
> RedHat gets X going. If you've done this then you
> accidentally disabled the other virtual terminals.
> 
> I didn't have to change anything in /etc/inittab.
> My basic installation runs at runlevel 2 and
> launchs the graphical login manager with the same
> results as RedHat's system.
> 
> - Jeff
> 
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 22:02, dm wrote:
> > Ok quick question, my girlfriend's system after installing a display manager (gdm, 
> > xdm, or kdm) only starts one virtual terminal.  This was awhile ago when she was 
> > in testing, now she is in unstable, this has been bothering her for a while now, 
> > and I would like to fix it, what config file do I need to change.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you in advance, dm.
> 

Debian unlike redhat doesn't have a different runlevel for graphical
login.
Debian uses runlevel 2 by default and if xdm/gdm/kdm/... are installed
it uses them.
If you wan't to change this behaviour the place to look would be
/etc/inittab
The default is 6 terminals no matter if X login is enabled, so it has
either been changed or something else is a problem, can you post the
file?
Wasn't completely clear, from the message is the only terminal the X
login or is there another text terminal. Just in case, you are aware
that to switch between X and a regular terminal you need Alt-Ctrl-F and between regulat terminals Alt-F.

On the lines as appearing above in /etc/inittab make sure that the
number 2 appears between the first and second : characters (where
marked) for each terminal you want to enable.

  v
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6

And make sure that the default runlevel is actually set to 2 as follows:
id:2:initdefault:



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Re: setting up an openafs server on Debian

[Todd Pytel]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT)
Faheem Mitha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also, I'm using AFS on the University of North Carolina campus.

Much about AFS is specific to your institution. I'll make some guesses,
but you need to talk to your IT department.

> 1) When using an afs client, the command `klog' fetches tokens from
>the campus server. Am I correct in thinking that this fetching
>involves use of kerberos on the campus server? I don't have
>kerberos installed on my client machine, though I have seen
>descriptions which involve installation of kerberos on the client
>machine. Is kerberos not required at the client end?

Kerberos is always required for AFS.  However, AFS works with all major
Kerberos distributions - MIT, Heimdal, MS Active Directory - and also
includes its own.  If you're using klog, that means you're using the AFS
built-in Kerberos.  These days, that's considered to not be the best way
to do things, but switching over to a newer Kerberos from the old is
difficult.  

> 2) I'm considering trying to install a Openafs server on a Debian
>machine. I am not completely clear from the documentation whether
>it is actually nececssary to install and configure kerberos
>(kerberos 5 seems to be the preferred version). Parts of the
>documentation suggest that one could use the `afs authentication
>system', whatever this is. Adding to my confusion is that the
>openafs debian packages openafs-dbserver and openafs-fileserver do
>not mention kerberos even as a recommends.

As stated above, you appear to be using the original "afs authentication
system", as described in the IBM/OpenAFS docs.  I believe Debian has a
separate package you'll need to deal with the old authentication system.
If you hope to join your uni's cell, you'll need to speak with them and
follow procedure - you can't just jump in on your own.  If you just want
to set up your own private cell to play around with, then you're best
off ditching the old AFS Kerberos and using MIT Kerb 5.  But that may
get tricky if you try to use the same machine that's already on the
university network.  If you have a test box that isn't hooked into the
existing AFS cell, that will make your life easier.
 
> Does a tutorial for AFS server installation on Debian exist anywhere?
> My impression is no.

There's a decent write-up in the docs for one of the AFS packages - I
don't remember which one specifically.  Those docs assume that you'll
be setting AFS with MIT Kerb 5, which is recommended these days, so
they won't quite apply to your university network.  But in any case, AFS
isn't something that you'll just pick up in a day, especially if you're
not familiar with Kerberos already.  If you have the machines to spare,
I would strongly recommend setting up a private Kerberos realm before
you get into AFS.

--Todd


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