dosemu-freedos on woody / using glibc from woody+sid?

2003-06-28 Thread Felix Natter
hi,

the dosemu packages in woody says that there is no freedos-package and
that I should get the freedos binary package from www.dosemu.org
(and that I should read README.Debian for instructions on how to 
install it)
However, these instructions don't work with dosemu-freedos-b8p-bin.tgz
(I get something like "no os found").

So I tried the dosemu-freedos package from testing mixed with the
dosemu-package from stable. This doesn't work ("bad or missing command
interpreter" (command.com)).

Now it looks like I have to use the dosemu and dosemu-freedos packages
from testing or sid (it works at a friend's who runs sid).
How can I do this if dosemu depends on glibc-2.3.1-1?:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dosemu:
 dosemu depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.1-1); however:
  Version of libc6 on system is 2.2.5-6.

Is there a way (apt-pinning?) that I can use these packages
without compromising my woody system?

thanks!,

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Re: How to make the debian system shut down with power off?

2003-06-28 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi,

* James Ng Yuen Sum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030627 11:11]:
> I have installed the debian system several times. In the first time,
> after the installation, the computer can shut down automatically.(that
> means the computer can shut down with the power off automatically when
> you switch "shut down the computer" in the kdm.
> 
> However, in the second time, the computer cannot do the same jobs, so I
> want to ask how to set the computer automatically shut down with power off
> 
> I have asked the same questions in www.debianhelp.org, and a viewer said
> that it has to be done by configuring the modules, but he/she cannot
> remember how to set it.

This is done by apm. It sounds like you run a fairly stock set up, so
you should be able to get this working fairly easily.

Add the following line to your /etc/lilo.conf and then run lilo (both
must be done as root).

append="apm=on"

You may also need to add apm to the list of modules to be loaded at
boot:

echo apm >> /etc/modules

HTH,

Nick.

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Kernel 2.5.44

2003-06-28 Thread Oki DZ
Hi,

Are there any issues I should aware of in installing the Kernel version
2.5.44 on Sid? Would there any problem with modutils?

TIA,
Oki



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woody laptop hangs at various init scripts

2003-06-28 Thread Levi Waldron
I have an elderly Compaq Presario 1020 P120 laptop running Woody with icewm 
window manager, tetex, emacs, gnumeric, and not much else.  One day, out of 
the blue as far as I can tell, it hangs during the boot process at:

Initializing random number generator

so I boot from a rescue CD and put exit 0 at the top of /etc/init.d/urandom.  
Then it hangs at:

Configuring network interfaces:  SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
SIOCSINETMASK: No such device

So from the rescue CD I disable /etc/init.d/networking.  Then it hangs at:

Cleaning: /tmp /var/lock /var/run

Losing patience, I reformat and install the base system, since I have a full 
backup from when the machine was working.  The base system boots just fine, 
but then I restore from backup with:

mount /cdrom ; cd / ; tar -xvzf /cdrom/fullbackup.tar.gz

I fix lilo.conf and run lilo for the newer kernel, change fstab to stick with 
ext2 so that copying .journal from backups won't cause problems, reboot, and 
the system goes back to hanging at various startup scripts.  (Now at netenv, 
which I had disabled after the backup, then at Cleaning:  /tmp /var/lock 
/var/run again.)  Note that I don't use a display manager, I used to use 
'startx' to start icewm.

This seems very odd to me.  Any ideas what might be going on?  Or how to go 
about restoring just configuration from backup, preferably without losing the 
ability to boot?  Otherwise I will just start over from the base system, and 
maybe restore only a few important files like xf86Config and modules.conf.

The computer has a pcmcia network card, cdrom, floppy, sb16 sound, neomagic 
video driver.  Sleep and hibernate never worked properly, I did some 
remapping of the keyboard.  That's about all the configuration I can 
remember.


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Re: fs_passno (was Re: GRUB problem)

2003-06-28 Thread cr
On Friday 27 June 2003 08:44, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * cr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030626 12:52]:
> > # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> > #
> > #
> > /dev/hda1   /boot   ext2errors=remount-ro   0   0
> > /dev/hda5   /   ext2errors=remount-ro   0   1
> > /dev/hda6   noneswapsw  0   0
> > /dev/hdd5   /cr2ext2defaults0   0
> > /dev/hdd6   /cr4ext2defaults0   0
> > /dev/hdc2   /cr3ext2defaults0   0
> > /dev/hdc1   /mnt/DosC   msdos   defaults0   0
> > /dev/hdd1   /mnt/dosD   msdos   defaults0   0
> > proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
> > /dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0   0
> > /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
> >
> > I actually inserted the line for /boot before the line for / , so it had
> > to have a newline character.I'm not sure what the significance of the
> > dump & pass numbers is  (I just copied the 0 0 of all the drives except /
> > )
>
> Those numbers are described in fstab(5).  The short of it is that all of
> your filesystems except / should have "0 2" and / should have "0 1".
> Well, when I say "all" of them, I really mean the ones that are
> regularly mounted as part of your linux system.  In your case, that
> would mean /boot, /cr2, /cr3, /cr4.  All of your disk-based (not
> /proc, not tmpfs) filesystems.
>
> good times,
> Vineet

Thanks.   I just amended /etc/fstab as suggested.

cr


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Re: Activating vim color?

2003-06-28 Thread Igor Stroh
On Don, 2003-06-26 at 07:36, Miranda, Joel Louie M wrote:
> Im using vi and I switch to vim, I was wondering what r the syntax to active
> the color codes? Its just black n white. Im coding and I wasn hoping I can
> activate the colors.

Make your choice:
- type ":syntax on" in a vim session
- edit $HOME/.vimrc and add 'syntax on' (without quotes)
- edit /etc/vim/vimrc and remove the double-quotes in the line that 
  says '" syntax on'

You might need to :set syntax=$COMMON_LANGUAGE_ABBREVIATION as well in
case vim can't determine the right type of syntax...
Check /usr/share/vim/vim61/filetype.vim for available file types.

HTH,
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Re: Activating vim color?

2003-06-28 Thread Joerg Johannes
On Thursday 26 June 2003 07:36, Miranda, Joel Louie M wrote:
> Im using vi and I switch to vim, I was wondering what r the syntax to
> active the color codes? Its just black n white. Im coding and I wasn
> hoping I can activate the colors.

Have a look at the online help:

:help Q_sy

will jump to the right place and show you which options you have. Just 
to turn it on, type

:syntax-on

Or switch to gvim, which has syntax-highlighting enabled by default...

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Backup XP box to Debian system

2003-06-28 Thread Carl Fink
Question:  I have a Windows-based laptop. (I need to run Windows
software for business, no harassment please.)  I would like to back
it up, before converting it to dual boot Debian/XP.

Can anyone recommend a backup package from the Debian (Testing)
archive that can back up an XP-based system, with provision for a
full recovery?

Thanks.
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Recent dist-upgrade in Sarge

2003-06-28 Thread arief_mulya
Dear all,

I've recently done apt-get --fix-missing --fix-broken 
dist-upgrade on debian-testing (Sarge). Lots of package got 
thrown out but I see some of them got thrown back in.

After the process done. I can see I'm in GNOME2 now. Being 
experienced with GNOME2 in previous lifetime, I remove 
sawfish, install metacity*, gtk2-engines*, and do some other 
things to make my lovely GNOME2 became prettier.

But I still found some troubles. For example:

1. When first logged in, I got Settings-Daemon failed to 
start. And then something that said Gnome-Mixer also failed 
to load.

2. If I'm not mistaken, There's also a version of nautilus, 
galeon, and some other packages for GNOME-2, right? But I 
still can't find it.

I figure, is it because the transition still ongoing? So I 
just need tobe patient a little while. Or is it I'm missing 
something?

Thanks for any clues.

Best Regards,
arief_mulya
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Re: Activating vim color?

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:36:49PM +0800, Miranda, Joel Louie M wrote:
> Im using vi and I switch to vim, I was wondering what r the syntax to active
> the color codes? Its just black n white. Im coding and I wasn hoping I can
> activate the colors.

Add

syntax o

to your ~/.vimrc

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Re: Evolution 1.4 bug?

2003-06-28 Thread Gavrila
Il ven, 2003-06-27 alle 02:06, Oki DZ ha scritto:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:55:45AM +0200, Gavrila wrote:
> > It works fine with me.
> 
> Your environment please.

Sid, Gnome2 , Metacity, Xfree4.3, kernel 2.4.20, all with gcc 3.2 , and
nvidia driver :)

> I use Sid, Gnome2, Sawfish 1.3, kernel 2.4.18, libc6 2.3.1

Almost the same.

> I think I forgot to mention that it was used remotely; the config of
> the server was about the same (it runs no X though).

What do you mean with "it runs no X"? 


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Re: Evolution 1.4 bug?

2003-06-28 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:06, Oki DZ wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:55:45AM +0200, Gavrila wrote:
> > It works fine with me.
> 
> Your environment please.
> I use Sid, Gnome2, Sawfish 1.3, kernel 2.4.18, libc6 2.3.1.
> I think I forgot to mention that it was used remotely; the config of the 
> server was about the same (it runs no X though).

also works for me

sid, gnome2, metacity, 2.4.18

on two seperate systems

Bijan



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Re: Debian lilo won't boot Redhat

2003-06-28 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Friday 27 June 2003 03:57, Ross Boylan wrote:
> I got a system with Red Hat 9 preinstalled, booting with lilo.  After
> making some space, I installed Debian (testing) on it.  I thought it
> would be good to preserve the ability to boot into RH, so I mounted
> its partitions under /red in linux, and modified its lilo.conf to use
> these new paths.  (That is, I created /etc/lilo.conf under Debian
> based on the lilo conf from RH).
>
> Surprisingly, I find I'm unable to start RH doing this.  I get
> Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init= option to the kernel
> (it is already getting that option).

I have the same problem with booting Mandrake 9.1 using Debian Lilo. I 
can boot other distros OK (like slack) but I get the same kernel panic 
message when booting mandrake 9.1

I don't have RedHat, so I can't verify that, but it seems we have the 
same problem.

Any suggestions anyone?

I can post my lilo.conf and fstab if you want

Cheers

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Re: Debian lilo won't boot Redhat

2003-06-28 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:57, Ross Boylan wrote:
> I got a system with Red Hat 9 preinstalled, booting with lilo.  After
> making some space, I installed Debian (testing) on it.  I thought it
> would be good to preserve the ability to boot into RH, so I mounted its
> partitions under /red in linux
this is the wrong thing to do, don't mount the redhat partition there,
just use root=/dev/hdXX for redhat, where hdXX is the red hat root
partition, 
you want redhat to use that partition as / not as /red

> , and modified its lilo.conf to use these
> new paths.  (That is, I created /etc/lilo.conf under Debian based on the
> lilo conf from RH).
> 
> Surprisingly, I find I'm unable to start RH doing this.  I get 
> Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init= option to the kernel
> (it is already getting that option).

> On the other hand, if I chroot to /red and run lilo -b /dev/fd0, I get
> something I can boot off.
that's right because the systen expects everything to be under / and not
under /red

Bijan



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Re: debian

2003-06-28 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 00:04, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
> Quoting "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 03:21:39PM -0700, John Sunderhaus wrote:
> > 
> > > But your point is well taken; you can productively run X on an
> > > underpowered machine - but I'll bet you aren't happy. 
> > 
> > I'd bet quite the contrary.  Chances are they use it because they *are*
> > happy with it.  I much prefer my Blackbox based X configuration to
> > anything else available for Windows, Mac, or Linux.  Why?  Because it's
> > what *I* chose.  Not what someone else decided I should use.  Does it
> > have all the latest eye candy?  Hell *no*.  That's one of the main
> > reasons I use it.  I don't want all that extra overhead (and yes, my
> > system has more than enough processor power to spare).  The point is,
> > it's all about choice.
> 
> 
> Ditto.  My PII-366 ThinkPad with 128MB RAM runs Fluxbox on X like a champ.  So
> does my Athlon 1.2Ghz desktop with 768MB RAM; I don't feel the need to run a
> bloated desktop environment simply because my hardware can handle it.
> 
> M. Kirchhoff

I ran FVWM (back when it was FVWM2) on my first generation Pentium/90MHz
in 80 MiB of RAM and nine desktops loaded with programs (top, system
monitors, diald's dctrl gui, Netscape 4, several xterms, emacs) with
reasonable comfort and response - only slow aspects were the full hard
drives and that I was on dial-up back then.

The big consideration is what sort of load are you placing on the
hardware and what is it honestly capable of. The Pentium/90MHz system
started straining when load pushed much over 2, while my PIII-800MHz
with 512 MiB RAM now handles a load of 4-5 comfortably, and only starts
to slow as it approaches 7, and crawls at 10. I have seen it hit 12+,
but I remember a VAX 11/780 I used a couple decades back hitting a load
in excess of 40 at one time when a university course had an assignment
due on that machine. That VAX was good up to a load of 10 for
interactive functions, and it wasn't until it moved past 15 that it
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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Clive Menzies
On (26/06/03 14:22), Paul E Condon wrote:
> 
> I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
> list, my message would be returned to me from the server at 
> the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
> Now that is not happening. Now, when I post, I see nothing
> on the list, but my message is showing up in the archives.
> Which is the correct behavior of the list?
> 
> I would like to see my message show up. The message in my
> inbox is a nice anchor for collecting replies. But if policy
> is to not echo the message, what is recommended as a way to
> collect in one place the replies to a request for advice?
> 
> Sorry for the several test messages. I had a question about
> exim that I posted, and from my vantage point, it never 
> showed up on the list (and I never got replies). I thought
> maybe I had messed up my email config while poking at the
> exim issue. Now I know that I'm simply not getting an echo
> of my message, but why?
>
It sounds as though you've been unsubscribed or else list messages are
being filtered off somewhere.  You could try resubscribing if you are
sure that you haven't got filtering implemented.

HTH

Clive

What is strange is that in using "reply to all" to make sure you get
this, your address wasn't cc'd - odd?


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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Thursday 26 June 2003 23:22, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
> list, my message would be returned to me from the server at
> the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
> Now that is not happening. Now, when I post, I see nothing
> on the list, but my message is showing up in the archives.
> Which is the correct behavior of the list?
>
> I would like to see my message show up. The message in my
> inbox is a nice anchor for collecting replies. But if policy
> is to not echo the message, what is recommended as a way to
> collect in one place the replies to a request for advice?
>
> Sorry for the several test messages. I had a question about
> exim that I posted, and from my vantage point, it never
> showed up on the list (and I never got replies). I thought
> maybe I had messed up my email config while poking at the
> exim issue. Now I know that I'm simply not getting an echo
> of my message, but why?

Wierd problem. My messages always show up. Everybody else I guess also 
does. 

It is a problem with you MTA I guess.


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Re: another traffic shaper

2003-06-28 Thread Gabriel Granger
I've used traffic shaping, which required  re-compiling and using tc 
from iproute, and it works a real treat.  I'm able to control bandwidth 
out of my linux router independently of what bandwidth is used coming 
into the network.

	- Regards -

		Gabe

On Thursday, Jun 26, 2003, at 11:56 Europe/London, LeVA wrote:

Hi!

I need a program to control my download/upload speed, independently 
from what program I am using to download/upload. Is there a software 
for this, or I have to use the kernel's traffic shaper?

Thanks!

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Re: mozilla 1.3.1 java plugin

2003-06-28 Thread CaT
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 05:15:32PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> I have a javaplugin_oji.so in whatever directory I'm supposed to have it in 
> according to the mozilla dev website.
> 
> Nothing works.  I get that stupid busted puzzle piece.

Try http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml

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Re: Activating vim color?

2003-06-28 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 07:36, Miranda, Joel Louie M wrote:
> Im using vi and I switch to vim, I was wondering what r the syntax to active
> the color codes? Its just black n white. Im coding and I wasn hoping I can
> activate the colors.

The command is 'syntax enable'. To make colorization permanent, insert
the following line in your .vimrc :

syntax on




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Re: mozilla 1.3.1 java plugin

2003-06-28 Thread Joris
talliso verraste ons met de boodschap:

> 
>> Get the version of the Java plugin from Blackdown that's compiled with
>> gcc 3.2.
>>
> 
> Where?
> 
> I couldn't find it.

http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html
in the ftp archive near you, it's JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/*-gcc3.2.bin

I've got unofficial debian packages for it at
http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian/
though that location may change in the near future. The packages contain
exactly the same binaries as the blackdown .bin's, but mozilla plug-in,
alternatives and so forth should work out of the box.

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Re: KDE uninstallable in unstable?

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:35:40AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> I run unstable since I upgraded a couple of days ago and I am unable to
> install the kde metapackage. After following a lot of dependencies, I
> noticed that some dependencies are not set right. For example, kuickshow
> depends on imlib2. I think that libimlib2 should do the job, but how do

No.  It needs to be rebuilt.  This shouldn't stop you using or
installing KDE, though, it just means you can't install kuickshow.  Just
install everything else the 'kde' metapackage Depends on.

> BTW, is this a known problem expected to be fixed soon? (There are more
> dependency problems, like libsensor1 instead of libsensor-1debian1 for
> ksysguardd on which kdebase depends...)

This is also a known problem, which is unfortunately not easily worked
around.  I guess you'll either have to wait for ksysguardd to be
rebuilt, or go to http://snapshot.debian.net/ and get KDE as it was a
few weeks ago, before this bug made it uninstallable.

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Re: Debian PPC

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:28:30PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> presenting. I assume you're mostly just experimenting at this phase, so 
> what I'd suggest is that you add the "unstable" lines to 
> "/etc/apt/sources.lst" (just duplicate the "stable" lines, except for 
> the "security" entry, probably two lines, and change "stable" to 
> "unstable"), and then upgrade your box via "apt-get update" and "apt-get 
> dist-upgrade". This should get you a newer version of X that's easier to 
> install.

Sorry to jump in so late, but you can get a version of XFree86 4.2 for
(which is the version in Sid) for woody from
http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/.  This'll save you from upgrading
all the way to sid, and the hassles that entails.

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Re: viewcvs + svn for Debian unstable

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:46:41PM +0200, Magnus Therning wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I had some problems getting the version of viewcvs that is available in
> Debian unstable with the python2.2-subversion package that is in there
> too... The attachment contains a diff of the changes that I made... It
> seems to work except for the fs.FileDiff on line 116 in
> vclib/svn/__init.py__, I am not sure what to replace it with and it
> seems that the CVS HEAD of viewcvs still uses it... Any help would be
> most useful.

It would probably be a lot more useful to send this patch to the BTS so
the viewcvs maintainer can look it over for possible inclusion in the
viewcvs package itself.  You can find the relevant bug number at
http://bugs.debian.org/viewcvs

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Re: eth0/1

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 08:49:37AM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:35, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
> > In /etc/modules.conf you can assign whatever you like to whatever module.
> > For example:
> > 
> > alias eth0 8139too
> > alias eth1 eepro100
> > 
> > you get the gist I hope.
> > 
> 
> how would you do it if you wanted it compiled into the kernel, or can it
> not be done?

I think it depends on the order in which the cards are initialised.  I'm
not sure of the exact algorithm, but it will be the same every boot,
provided the kernel, machine and slot for each card remains constant.

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Re: Unresolved symbol erros, just compiled 2.4.21

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 05:37:58PM +0200, Z_God wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm using Debian 3.0 Woody and I just compiled 2.4.21 according to this page:
> http://www.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=158
> When I load certain modules using modprobe, I get unresolved symbol errors 
> though:
> # modprobe ipv6
> /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o: unresolved symbol nf_hooks
> /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o: unresolved symbol nf_setsockopt
> /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o: unresolved symbol nf_getsockopt
> /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o: unresolved symbol nf_hook_slow
> /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o: insmod 
> /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o: insmod ipv6 failed
> 
> Does anyone know how to fix these or maybe a better way to install a kernel 
> with Debian? Thanks in advance.

I can't say I've read the above guide (and I'm offline now), but here's
the quick'n'nasty Debian Way of building a kernel:

0) Install 'build-essential' (required to build anything with the C
   compiler) and 'kernel-package' (generates kernel-image .debs from
   your kernel source) and 'fakeroot' (required to build .debs as a
   normal user).

1) get and untar your kernel source.  From kernel.org or a
   kernel-source- package, it doesn't matter.  

2) run 'make menuconfig' (which requires libncurses5-dev to be
   installed) or 'make xconfig' (which requires tcl and tk to be
   installed) to configure your kernel just as you like it.  Make sure
   you select the correct CPU type, or it will not boot.  Don't forget
   to include support for your root filesystem (ext2, reiserfs,
   whatever) AND support for your root hard disk (and IDE controller or
   SCSI card or whatever) or the kernel will fail to boot.

3) run 'make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot kernel_image kernel_headers'.

4) install the kernel-image and kernel-headers .debs that appear in ../

Note, you only need to be 'root' for step (4).

After you've done all that, your new kernel should be installed and
ready to go.  Just reboot and you should be in your brand spanking new
kernel.  'uname -r' lets you check this.  Enjoy!

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Re: can't upgrade libpam-modules

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:02:47PM -0500, John Hawley,,, wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've got a system running unstable and got this problem when trying to 
> update the packages today.  Is there a fix, or is it a problem with the 
> package that will get fixed in the course of things?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:txt# apt-get install libpam-modules
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   libpam0g
> The following held packages will be changed:
>   libpam-modules libpam0g
> 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
> Need to get 216kB of archives.
> After unpacking 165kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org sid/main libpam-modules 0.76-12 [144kB]
> Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org sid/main libpam0g 0.76-12 [71.6kB]
> Fetched 216kB in 1s (137kB/s)
> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on 
> libpam-modules
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:txt#

Install both libpam-modules and libpam0g at the same time with dpkg.
The .debs will be in /var/cache/apt/archives.

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Re: long delays switching from consoles to x with nvidia

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:22:05PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> my gazillionth post this week...
> 
> Now that I have a second debian system at home (yay!), I notice a
> problem at the work machine.  At work I have an NVidia GeForce
> something/or/other video card, and use the nonfree nvidia drivers to
> run it.  When I switch form console to X, it takes about 30/45 seconds
> for X to come up (this is for an already-running X session).  Now at 
> ome that doesn't happen, even though my home computer is zillions of
> time slower.  

Are you using the non-Free drivers at home, too?  Maybe you should just
ask nvidia for a bug fix ;-)

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Re: Adding more files to a iso image?

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:01:32PM +0100, Mark C wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've finally managed to get my debian system (Woody/Sarge/Sid) configured
> and working perfectly with not a single problem.
> 
> Anyway, I have created a image of /dev/hda1 using partimage and currently
> storing this on a nfs partition.
> 
> I'm using a live cd that consists on partimage, so I can boot up and mount
> the nfs directory with the partimge file in and restore the complete image
> (just incase I completely manage to mangle my system or I need to install
> the image on another computer).
> 
> Basically the image is small enougth to fix on the extra space on the live
> cd,
> how would I go about add this image to the cd?
> 
> I would use dd to image to cdrom to my harddrive, then would I use to
> loopback interface to mount the iso image as rw, copy the partimage file
> to the mounted  iso and then umount the iso and reburn using cdrecord.
> 
> i.e:
> 
> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/livecd-image.iso
> 
> mount -t iso9660 -o loop,rw /tmp/livecd-image.iso /cdrom

The Linux iso9660 filesystem driver doesn't support writable images.
You'll have to dump it to a writable filesystem, modify it, and then
regenerate the image with mkisofs.

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Re: can't get a cdrom "configured" with apt-cdrom

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:41:31AM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> I've attempted to create an "update" cdrom, by using;
> 
> dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null > Packages
> 
> which created a "Packages" file.
> 
> With this method, the cd I created has everything in the "root"
> directory.
> 
> I've been trying to get "apt-cdrom" to add the contents to the
> listing, so I don't have to re-download the files, and to help a few
> people convert to debian.
> 
> When I run apt-cdrom, I get the following;
> 
> sudo apt-cdrom -a add
> Using CD-ROM mount point /cdrom/
> Unmounting CD-ROM
> Please insert a Disc in the drive and press enter 
> Mounting CD-ROM
> Identifying.. [ffb907fd618f7a4beeae842981cf6e0e-2]
> Scanning Disc for index files..  Found 1 package indexes and 0 source indexes.
> This Disc is called:
>  'Debian Update Disk 1'
> Reading Package Indexes... Done
> Wrote 0 records.
> Writing new source list
> Source List entries for this Disc are:
> deb cdrom:[Debian Update Disk 1]/ /
> Repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set.
> W: No valid records were found.
> 
> 
> Any help would be apprciated.

I don't know how to fix this, but I've used 'debian-cd' to produce CDs
from piles of .debs, and they've always worked fine for me.  Perhaps
have a look at that, if it's not too late.

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Re: screenshot of mplayer-movie?

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:20:22PM +, Matthias Leopold wrote:
> hi
> 
> although this isn't debian-specific, i hope someone can help me (i AM using 
> debian). how can i make screenshots of playing videos(maybe fullscreen)? 
> i've tried to do this using the import program from ImageMagick, but it 
> obviously doesn't work. somewhere i read that i should disable the xvideo 
> extension to make screenshots of movies, but i don't know how to do this. 
> im using the commercial nvidia driver and the mplayer debs from 
> http://marillat.free.fr/ on a (mostly) testing system. everything works 
> fine, except i can't make screenshots to brag with...

'mplayer -vo x11 file.blah' should let you take screenshots, but you
should read more about the '-vo' option in the manpage; mplayer will
dump directly to .png files, which you can convert into any format you
like.

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Re: Help on configure plex86

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 11:51:52PM -0300, Savio Ramos wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I want to configure plex86. I make this:
> 
> apt-get -t unstable install plex86 kernel-headers_2.4.18 bochs
> cd /usr/src
> tar zxpvf plex86.tar.gz
> cd /usr/src/modules/plex86
> ./configure
> 
> 
> When I try to rum make this happened:
> 
> debian:/usr/src/modules/plex86# make
> make: *** Nenhum alvo indicado e nenhum arquivo make encontrado.  Pare.
> 
> (no make file find. Stop)

There's no documentation/instructions in /usr/share/doc/plex86/?

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Re: grip & ide-scsi & ripping

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:57:21PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> A very strange is happening to me when I try to rip a CD: 
> 
> - I can read the CD, i.e. grip can display all the tracks and can play
>   the sound
> 
> - but I cannot make grip rip the CD -- why?
> 
> I make use of ide-scsi which leads to /dev/scd0 to be the DVD/CD
> devices.
> 
> If anyone knows why I cannot rip the CD, I would be more than
> grateful!

What level of access does your user have to /dev/scd0?  I seem to be
able to use my cd-rom as a cd player with grip with just read access to
that file (well /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target2/lun0/cd, which is the
devfs-equivalent, afaict).  Adding yourself to the 'cdrom' group (and
logging out and back in again for the change to take effect) should fix
this.

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Re: How to make the debian system shut down with power off?

2003-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:04:08PM +0800, James Ng Yuen Sum wrote:
> I have installed the debian system several times. In the first time,
> after the installation, the computer can shut down automatically.(that
> means the computer can shut down with the power off automatically when
> you switch "shut down the computer" in the kdm.
> 
> However, in the second time, the computer cannot do the same jobs, so I
> want to ask how to set the computer automatically shut down with power off
> 
> I have asked the same questions in www.debianhelp.org, and a viewer said
> that it has to be done by configuring the modules, but he/she cannot
> remember how to set it.

You need to load the 'apm' module.  Either select it with 'modconf' or
add the word 'apm' to end of /etc/modules on a new line.

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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
Paul E Condon wrote:

I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
list, my message would be returned to me from the server at
the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
Now that is not happening. Now, when I post, I see nothing
on the list, but my message is showing up in the archives.
Which is the correct behavior of the list?
I would like to see my message show up. The message in my
inbox is a nice anchor for collecting replies. But if policy
is to not echo the message, what is recommended as a way to
collect in one place the replies to a request for advice?
Me too! This is a new problem, I just noticed it for the first time 
yesterday, when I posted two messages that never got echoed to me. 
Fortunately I still had them in my 'Sent' folder, so I could move them 
into the appropriate place for, as you put it 'a nice anchor for 
collecting replies'

Both messages showed up in the list archive on the web, but neither of 
them came back to me :-(. Is this maybe a new policy, or just a bug?

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Re: mozilla 1.3.1 java plugin

2003-06-28 Thread Graham Williams
Received Thu 26 Jun 2003 11:03am +1000 from Tom Allison:
> OK, I'm confused.
> 
> I have a javaplugin_oji.so in whatever directory I'm supposed to have it in 
> according to the mozilla dev website.
> 
> Nothing works.  I get that stupid busted puzzle piece.

Have a read of

 http://togaware.com/linux/survivor/Mozilla_Java.html 

Perhaps it will help.


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Ouch... kernel-image-2.4.21 - now all I get is LIL at boot

2003-06-28 Thread Graham Williams
Installed kernel-image-2.4.21-1-686. Updated lilo.conf to use this as
default. Ran lilo.  Now all I get when I reboot is "LIL" and it then
hangs.

What's the next step.. no boot floppy for this machine :-(

This is an uptodate "unstable" installation.

Regards,
Graham


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Configure plex86 (send again)

2003-06-28 Thread Savio Ramos
Sorry,
I am sending again cause problems in my email account.


I am trying to configure plex86. I made this:

apt-get -t unstable install plex86 kernel-headers_2.4.18 bochs
cd /usr/src
tar zxpvf plex86.tar.gz
cd /usr/src/modules/plex86
./configure


After the command ./configure no makefile was created.
What can I do?

[]'s
Sávio Ramos.


P.S. the output of ./configure is above:

debian:/usr/src/modules/plex86# ./configure

checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for X... no
checking for inline... inline
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for unsigned char... yes
checking size of unsigned char... 1
checking for unsigned short... yes
checking size of unsigned short... 2
checking for unsigned int... yes
checking size of unsigned int... 4
checking for unsigned long... yes
checking size of unsigned long... 4
checking for unsigned long long... yes
checking size of unsigned long long... 8
checking for select... yes
checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes
checking for instrumentation support... yes
checking for CDROM support... yes
checking for Sound Blaster 16 support... no
checking for split hard disk image support... yes
checking for NE2000 support... no
checking for i440FX PCI support... no
checking for VBE support... yes
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating kernel/Makefile
config.status: creating kernel/emulation/Makefile
config.status: creating kernel/dt/Makefile
config.status: creating kernel/iodev/Makefile
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: config.h is unchanged


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screwed up permissions for whole filesystem

2003-06-28 Thread Shri Shrikumar
Hi All,

I did something very stupid - 

cd /root
chmod go-r .* -R

thinking that it would change just the permissions on the files inside
the root folder. Now all my permissions are screwed up.

Is there an easy way to rebuild the permissions on the files in the
system.

Thanks,


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gstreamer problems

2003-06-28 Thread Torquil Macdonald Sørensen
Does anybody know why I only get silence when I play a soundfile in 
gst-player. The time display on gst-player showes that it is playing the 
file. The following command works fine to play music:
'gst-launch filesrc location=/path/to/file.mp3 ! mad ! alsasink'

I only use pure ALSA (OSS emulation drivers are not loaded) together with 
linux 2.5.73 and Debian Sid, and alsa is the only gstreamer audiosink 
installed. Also, I have set alsasink to be the default audiosink in the gconf 
registry. As you can see from the messages from gst-player below, gst-player 
does use the alsa audiosink. The last line of the messages from gst-player is 
very suspicious. 

Messages from gst-player:
INFO ( 3952: 0) Initializing GStreamer Core Library version 0.6.2 
INFO ( 3952: 0) CPU features: (0c040843) MMX SSE 
INFO ( 3952: 0) registry: loaded global_registry in 1.124908 seconds
  (/var/lib/gstreamer/0.6/registry.xml)
Opening alsa device "default" for playback...
Preparing channel: (null) 44100Hz, 2 channels

(gst-player:3955): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstprops.c: line 1001 
(gst_props_get_entry): assertion `props != NULL' failed

(gst-player:3955): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstprops.c: line 1164 
(gst_props_entry_get_safe): assertion `entry != NULL' failed
Opening alsa device "default" for playback...
Preparing channel: (null) 44100Hz, 2 channels

(gst-player:3955): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstprops.c: line 1001 
(gst_props_get_entry): assertion `props != NULL' failed

(gst-player:3955): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstprops.c: line 1164 
(gst_props_entry_get_safe): assertion `entry != NULL' failed
Opening alsa device "default" for playback...
Preparing channel: (null) 44100Hz, 2 channels

(gst-player:3955): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstprops.c: line 1001 
(gst_props_get_entry): assertion `props != NULL' failed

(gst-player:3955): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstprops.c: line 1164 
(gst_props_entry_get_safe): assertion `entry != NULL' failed
audio_queue: waiting for the app to restart source pad elements

**Messages from gst-launch command:
INFO ( 3958: 0) Initializing GStreamer Core Library version 0.6.2 
INFO ( 3958: 0) CPU features: (0c040843) MMX SSE 
INFO ( 3958: 0) registry: loaded global_registry in 1.121846 seconds
  (/var/lib/gstreamer/0.6/registry.xml)
GStreamer-INFO: 0 live buffer(s)
GStreamer-INFO: 0 live bufferpool(s)
GStreamer-INFO: 0 live event(s)
RUNNING pipeline
Opening alsa device "default" for playback...
Preparing channel: (null) 44100Hz, 2 channels
Opening alsa device "default" for playback...
Preparing channel: S16_LE 44100Hz, 2 channels

If you are wondering why I do not use rhythmbox, I get millions of these 
messages when I press play:
** (rhythmbox:4016): WARNING **: GstAlsaSink: got an unknown event (Type: 14)

** (rhythmbox:4016): WARNING **: GstAlsaSink: got an unknown event (Type: 14)

** (rhythmbox:4016): WARNING **: GstAlsaSink: got an unknown event (Type: 14)

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Abiword dependency problem in testing?

2003-06-28 Thread Jakob Sandholm
Hello

Before submitting a bug report (I've never done that before), I want to
know if I am doing something wrong here.

If this should be reported as a bug, what package should then get the
report?

I am running Debian testing.

Here is the output when I try to install abiword:

---
gnu:~# aptitude install abiword
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree   
Reading extended state information... Done
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
Some packages had unmet dependencies.  This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  abiword: Depends: abiword-gtk (= 1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1) but it is not
installable or
abiword-gnome (= 1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1) but it is
not installable
gnu:~# aptitude install abiword-gnome
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree   
Reading extended state information... Done
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
Some packages had unmet dependencies.  This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  abiword-gnome: Depends: libpspell4 (>= 0.12.2-5) but it is not
installable
gnu:~# aptitude install libpspell4
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree   
Reading extended state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
  aspell-doc 
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
  abiword-common aspell aspell-bin aspell-da bluefish gaim gedit 
  libaspell15 libgtkspell0 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  aspell-doc libpspell4 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abiword-common aspell aspell-bin aspell-da bluefish gaim gedit 
  libaspell15 libgtkspell0 
0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 284kB of archives. After unpacking 28.3MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] n
Abort.
gnu:~# 
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How to apply no-debianized kernel patch to debianized kernel-source?

2003-06-28 Thread Joerg Johannes
Hello everybody

I (like many others in the last few days) have a problem with kernel 
2.4.21. I have downloaded the kernel-source-2.4.21 deb, and want to 
apply the acpi patch from acpi.sf.net to it. So here we go:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux$ zcat ../acpi-20030619-2.4.21.diff.gz | patch -p1
patching file arch/i386/config.in
Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] n
# loads of files produced or patched OK, but also some errors.

No matter which option I choose, I cannot apply the acpi patch to the
debian kernel-source. Or, when forced, compile fails (surprise, surprise).
Unfortunately I am no programmer and can't look into the source and fix
the problems myself. Is there a chance to get acpi working on debian
kernel-source, or will I have to switch to a kernel.org source-tree?

thanks

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Re: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig'

2003-06-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:27:54AM -0400, nori heikkinen wrote:
> on Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:04:20PM -0500, Nathan Poznick insinuated:
> > Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > However, I *do* have libncurses5 installed, as well as every other
> > > packages which matched a search for ncurses on my dselect. My
> > > sources for apt are set as
> > 
> > libncurses5-dev
> 
> this makes me wonder why make menuconfig doesn't tell you to install
> this particular package!  it's completely non-intuitive ...

'make menuconfig' is part of the Linux kernel. libncurses5-dev is
distribution-specific. The Linux kernel isn't generally in a position to
give you advice on things that differ between distributions.

Debian kernel-source packages suggest libncurses-dev (which
libncurses5-dev provides).

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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:22:21PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I think that it used to be that when I posted to this list, my message
> would be returned to me from the server at the time that it was sent
> out to everyone else on the list. Now that is not happening. Now, when
> I post, I see nothing on the list, but my message is showing up in the
> archives. Which is the correct behavior of the list?

murphy, a.k.a. lists.debian.org, has been having some major problems
over the last day or two. Just wait a while for things to clear.

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Re: weird tcpdump dependency on libaviplaydha

2003-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.06.26.1908 +0200]:
> 0c558a84f5eba114dd31878fd4fd3e18  /usr/sbin/tcpdump

this is identical.

but:

diamond:~# ldd /usr/sbin/tcpdump  [307]
libpcap.so.0.7 => /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.7 (0x42aa7000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x42aaa000)
libaviplaydha-0.7.so.0 => not found
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x42bba000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x42bdb000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x42bee000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x42a8a000)

how weird is that???

> Did you ever have libaviplaydha-0.7.so.0 installed?

not that i know. i also just can't find it anywhere in the archives.

> Maybe if it was removed "uncleanly" you just need to run ldconfig?
> That's just a guess, though, and I don't think that's it.  I'm
> leaning more towards your tcpdump having been replaced with
> something else... =/

no way. the md5sum is identical, and the system as secure as it can
get.

puzzled...

is there someone with libaviplaydha-0.7.so.0 on the system? which
package is it from?

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Re: debian on notebooks

2003-06-28 Thread Arthur H. Johnson II
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, GARGIULO Eduardo GESI wrote:

> Hi all
>
> is there a list for debian on notebooks or is this list
> the right place to post questions regarding debian configuration
> on laptops/notebooks ?
>
> TIA
>
> -ejg
>

http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/

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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread M. Kirchhoff
Quoting Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
> list, my message would be returned to me from the server at 
> the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
> Now that is not happening. Now, when I post, I see nothing
> on the list, but my message is showing up in the archives.
> Which is the correct behavior of the list?
> 
> I would like to see my message show up. The message in my
> inbox is a nice anchor for collecting replies. But if policy
> is to not echo the message, what is recommended as a way to
> collect in one place the replies to a request for advice?
> 
> Sorry for the several test messages. I had a question about
> exim that I posted, and from my vantage point, it never 
> showed up on the list (and I never got replies). I thought
> maybe I had messed up my email config while poking at the
> exim issue. Now I know that I'm simply not getting an echo
> of my message, but why?
> 

I'm having similar issues.  The last few messages I've sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] do not show up on the email list, yet appear in the
archives, which makes it seem like my messages aren't being echoed, as Paul
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Kernel 2.4.20

2003-06-28 Thread Abrasive
Hi all.  I downloaded the file: kernel-source-2.4.20_2.4.20-8_all.deb
then ran dpkg -i kernel-source-2.4.20_2.4.20-8_all.deb

Ran dselect, and selected the new kernel and told it to configure and install.
However, I'm still loading the kernel 2.2.x

Did I skip a step, or did I miss something entirely?

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3c59x.o && kernel 2.4.18

2003-06-28 Thread gutza36
I'm running debian woody on a AMD Athlon and compiled a new kernel (2.4.18)
from kernel.org
Menuconfgig goes fine, and so does the compilation process. When I boot up
the new kernel, everything seems to be working except for my NIC. I have a
3Com 3C905B-TX (3c59x.o) and it does work with my 2.2 kernel. 
I've tried compiling support for the card into the kernel: Network Device
Support --> Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) --> 3Com cards --> 3c590 > 3c5900 series
... "Vortex Boomerang" Support
I've tried installing it staticly to the kernel (y) but also tried using it
as a module (m), but each time, when I boot up into the completed kernel, the
same thing. Module loads fine during startup, but cant ping anything, eth0
gets no ip from DHCP, and the static IP config fails also.
Tried just going ifdown then ifup, made sure module loads, took module off
etc etc etc a few times, nothing. 
Is there something I should be enabling that I'm not?
What is it I'm not checking ?! 
please help me before i'm loosing my mind;-)

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3c59x.o && kernel 2.4.18

2003-06-28 Thread gutza36
I'm running debian woody on a AMD Athlon and compiled a new kernel
(2.4.18) from kernel.org
Menuconfgig goes fine, and so does the compilation process. When I boot
up the new kernel, everything seems to be working except for my NIC. I have
a 3Com 3C905B-TX (3c59x.o) and it does work with my 2.2 kernel. 
I've tried compiling support for the card into the kernel: Network
Device Support --> Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) --> 3Com cards --> 3c590 >
3c5900
series ... "Vortex Boomerang" Support
I've tried installing it staticly to the kernel (y) but also tried using
it as a module (m), but each time, when I boot up into the completed kernel,
the same thing. Module loads fine during startup, but cant ping anything,
eth0 gets no ip from DHCP, and the static IP config fails also.
Tried just going ifdown then ifup, made sure module loads, took module
off etc etc etc a few times, nothing. 
Is there something I should be enabling that I'm not? What is it I'm not
checking ?! 
please help me before i'm loosing my mind;-)

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Re: Activating vim color?

2003-06-28 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:37:45 -0400
> The default setting for 'background' is "light".  If you use a
> terminal with a dark background, also run 
 
> :set bg=dark

Now if only there was a way to get the same color set between vim and
gvim.  That always boggled me.  I haven't installed or altered the default
color sets for terminal or GUI yet they are different.  I like the defaults
for the terminal.  You'd think the GUI would match for consistency.  :/

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How to resize Pictures

2003-06-28 Thread Jake Johnson
Hello,
I need to know a fast way to convert 1600x1200 to 800x600 pictures from
the command line.  Any ideas on how to do this?



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Re: this odd --MARK-- filler

2003-06-28 Thread i'll teach you to turn away .
Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
VK> Syslog MARKs every 20 minutes (by default).  These MARKs give you an
VK> easy visual cue that (a) it's still running, and (b) how often messages
VK> are coming in.  When you're scanning through the logs, it's an easy way
VK> to tell when events are clumped together, or how far apart, without
VK> having to look over and find the timestamp.

oh, yeah, because it's SO difficult to read a timestamp. :>

thanks! worked keen.

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Info: documentation on Using Samba as a PDC (mainly for starters)

2003-06-28 Thread breno . moiana

About the whole Samba thing:

Some time ago, when looking for Samba information, I got to this very nice
document by IBM, freely downloadable from their site, which explains,
step-by-step, how to set up a Samba server.
I have deployed it on a client as a windows server for win2000 clients, and it
works pretty well.
The documentation is very easy to follow up and explains the issues with
accounts and passwords pretty well.
These are the URLs:

Online version:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/tutorials/samba/

PDF version:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/tutorials/samba/samba-ltr.pdf

It's a little outdated, but it's still fairly useful.

I hope it helps.

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[OT] Virus homur

2003-06-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I just read this on slashdot.  I know it is totally OT, but it is so funny that
*literally* fell out of my chair.

-Roberto

(These were posted in the thread about the new [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm going
around)

SUBJECT: To be honest...

 I can't really see how it's microsofts fault. Reading about it, it comes in a
zip file, the user has to get the zip, extract it and then execute the payload.

Is it just me or is this more like social engineering than a real problem with
the system?

[This is the reply)

SUBJECT: MOD PARENT UP + read my insightful comments ;-)

As the parent poster said, a malicious person trying to do maximum damage would
write for Windows. The Mac is the next best choice because, like Windows, you
don't have big binary compatability problems.

Linux is tougher to write this kind of thing for because it would require that
the user perform so many steps. First the user would have to extract the tar 
file from the gzip file. Then he would have to expand the tar archive onto his 
hard drive, which would put the source there. Then the user would cd to the 
location where the source extracted. Then he would probably have to set various

environment variables. Then he would have to run gmake. Then he would need to 
interpret the error messages to determine why the build didn't work. Then he 
would have to find and add various development tools and libraries to his 
system, adding any environment variables that they needed. Then he could try 
building again. When he finally got the build to work, he could then run the 
resulting executable, which would tell him to to type "man {trojan/worm name}. 
The man page would show various command line switches for specifying the e-mail

client being used and various network options. Then the user would construct 
the proper command line to run the program and WHAM! Just like that, his system

is infected.

I may have left out a few steps or so, but you get the idea...


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Re: ssh

2003-06-28 Thread Hubert Chan
X forwarding must also be enabled on the server side.  Check with your
sysadmin to see whether that has been done.

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Re: Trouble compiling 2.4.21 kernel

2003-06-28 Thread Travis Crump
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:31:12AM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

This is line 43 from /usr/src/linux/crypto/Configure.in:

"$CONFIG_INET6_ESP" = "m" ]; then

I can't figure out what the problem is.  Any ideas?


I'm thinking either something is wrong with the kernel config you gave
it, or your source archive was dead on arrival.  What happens if you
refetch the source and try again?
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Re: GRUB problem

2003-06-28 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:28:11 -0400 (EDT)
Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The other thing to check is in your menu.lst
> It says:
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.2.20-idepci root=/dev/hda1 ro
> 
> Is that where that kernel is or is it /boot/vmlinuz-2...  ?

Yes, that's right.

I'm embarrassed I missed that.

Sheesh.

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Re: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'makemenuconfig'

2003-06-28 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:27:54 -0400
nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> this makes me wonder why make menuconfig doesn't tell you to install
> this particular package!  it's completely non-intuitive ...

Probably because menuconfig works for every Linux distribution, and there's
no way to know whether the required functions will be in libnurses5 or
libncurses5-dev, or libncurses5-devel, or some other package.

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Re: dual booting

2003-06-28 Thread Clive Menzies
On (26/06/03 22:41), Armin Catovic wrote:
> From: "Armin Catovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: dual booting
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:41:43 +1000
> 
> Hi,
> Just got a quick question. How do I dual boot my Debian 3.0 with Windows XP 
> Professional with SP1. I would like to have the boot up screen when I start 
> my PC so I can select between XP and the beautiful Debian.
>
You can use LILO but many would favour GRUB. FWIW  I've used both but think
that GRUB is better for multiboot systems

HTH

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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 16:22, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
> list, my message would be returned to me from the server at 
> the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
> Now that is not happening. Now, when I post, I see nothing
> on the list, but my message is showing up in the archives.
> Which is the correct behavior of the list?
> 
> I would like to see my message show up. The message in my
> inbox is a nice anchor for collecting replies. But if policy
> is to not echo the message, what is recommended as a way to
> collect in one place the replies to a request for advice?
> 
> Sorry for the several test messages. I had a question about
> exim that I posted, and from my vantage point, it never 
> showed up on the list (and I never got replies). I thought
> maybe I had messed up my email config while poking at the
> exim issue. Now I know that I'm simply not getting an echo
> of my message, but why?

I think you should get a copy. If you don't and you want to have your
messages in your inbox you can simply just bcc every post to yourself.

Bijan



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OT, Novell Linux survey

2003-06-28 Thread Greg Madden
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Re: dual booting

2003-06-28 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 08:41, Armin Catovic wrote:
> Hi,
> Just got a quick question. How do I dual boot my Debian 3.0 with Windows XP 
> Professional with SP1. I would like to have the boot up screen when I start 
> my PC so I can select between XP and the beautiful Debian.

Add an entry in /etc/lilo.conf for windows XP. Then rerun lilo.

These lines should be all you need:
other=/dev/hda1
label = Windows(XP)

Note: replace hda1 with whatever partition windows is on.

P.S. This assumes you're using lilo, which is the default boot loader in
Debian. If you're using grub then it's a bit different.

Hope that helps,
Bijan



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wxPython not in debian?

2003-06-28 Thread Alfredo Valles
Hi all:

I'm looking for a IDE for python in which I can easly debug my code.
Some one point me to the "boa constructor":

http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

But in their web site they say you need  wxPython. which, as I understand, is 
a module to do X window stuff.
The problem is that there is no wxPython or related package in debian!!!??

Is this true or I'm missing something?


Alfredo


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allow sftp, deny ssh login

2003-06-28 Thread matt zagrabelny
hello,

i would like to allow sftp, but deny ssh login for particular users. how
do i do this?

i have read about people using a commercial version of ssh and that
version provides ssh-dummy-shell. others have written shells that
execute sftp-server.

also is it possible to deny the user from traversing up the directory
tree?

tia

-matt zagrabelny


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release source code

2003-06-28 Thread Fabio Miranda Hamburger
Hi, I would like to know Where Can I get the linux debian source code? All
I can see are binaries. I need the full directory in a ftp serfver (ej:
ftp.debian.org)

By the way, I have found Linux instalation annoy, so much warning and
explication of what is going on, a lot of questions, that should be
optional, I dont know how frequent linux users deal with that. freebsd
style is so polite, brief, direct, coherent.

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automated response

2003-06-28 Thread usguys
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Re: testing

2003-06-28 Thread Russ Pitman
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:26:31PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I seem to have lost the ability to post to this
> list. This is a test to see if I have. 
It works here.
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Configure bochs

2003-06-28 Thread Savio Ramos
Hello,

I installed bochs/testing, run bochsconf and fire bochs. The message above appear:

Context: [  ]
Message: dlopen failde for module 'extfpuirq': file not found


What can I do? Any help?

Thanks,
Sávio Ramos


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ALSA as modules_image

2003-06-28 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
I know that I've had ALSA working on this laptop, unfortunately I can't
find my notes on how I installed it the last time. This time I'm getting
errors that give me no information on how to track down the problem.

Any ideas on where I can look for problems would be much appreciated!!
kernel: vanilla 2.4.20 patched for ACPI
alsa version: 0.9.4
debian: unstable

I've installed:
alsa-base
alsa-utils
alsa-xmms
alsa-source

cd /usr/src/
expanded alsa-driver

dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base and alsa-source to choose my sound card

cd /usr/src/linux
make-kpkg --append-to-version=.currentkernelname modules_image
(no errors at the end of the processing)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ sudo dpkg -i
alsa-modules-2.4.20.030603d_0.9.4-1+10.00.Custom_i386.deb 
Password:
(Reading database ... 53070 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace alsa-modules-2.4.20.030603d 0.9.4-1+10.00.Custom
(using alsa-modules-2.4.20.030603d_0.9.4-1+10.00.Custom_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement alsa-modules-2.4.20.030603d ...
Setting up alsa-modules-2.4.20.030603d (0.9.4-1+10.00.Custom) ...
Configuration file for ALSA 0.9 exists.
Attempting to start.

Shutting down ALSA (unknown version): not running
Starting ALSA (unknown version): failed - ALSA modules not installed
invoke-rc.d: initscript alsa, action "restart" failed.
dpkg: error processing alsa-modules-2.4.20.030603d (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 alsa-modules-2.4.20.030603d


I do have the soundcore module loaded:
soundcore   3492   0 (autoclean)

In the dmesg output I can't find anything that looks like my soundcard
(ALI5451 is what I've been trying to install). The only thing that looks
remotely familar is that acronym ALI:

ALI15X3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 80
ALI15X3: detected chipset, but driver not compiled in!
PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:10.0ALI15X3: chipset revision 196
ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ALI15X3: simplex device:  DMA disabled
ide0: ALI15X3 Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
ALI15X3: simplex device:  DMA disabled
ide1: ALI15X3 Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)



When I try to install the modules for ALSA I get the following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo insmod snd-ali5451
Using /lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_new
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_verbose_printk
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_format_width
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_set_sync
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_lib_free_pages
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_kcalloc
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_ctl_add
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_device_new
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_period_elapsed
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_format_unsigned
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_hw_constraint_minmax
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_set_ops
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_ac97_mixer
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_lib_ioctl
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_card_register
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_ctl_new1
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_ac97_resume
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_lib_preallocate_pci_pages_for_all
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_card_free
/lib/modules/2.4.20.030603d/alsa/snd-ali5451.o: unresolved symbol
snd_card_new


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Re: 2.4.20 => no wireless network

2003-06-28 Thread Kevin McKinley
The message about different versions of card services is a nag, but it
doesn't indicate anything that would keep your card from working or being
recognized.

I don't know what is causing your problem, but I build pcmcia-cs along with
my kernel like this:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html#THIRDPARTY-KERNEL-PKG

and it works just fine (although my Orinoco wireless card is from Lucent).

You might try upgrading pcmcia-source. I use 3.2.2-1.1, which is stuck in
unstable.

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Re: testing

2003-06-28 Thread Levi Waldron
On June 26, 2003 02:26 pm, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I seem to have lost the ability to post to this
> list. This is a test to see if I have.

I seem to have as well, and I'm not receiving much from it either.  Server 
problems perhaps?


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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:22:21 -0600
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
> list, my message would be returned to me from the server at 
> the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
> Now that is not happening. Now, when I post, I see nothing
> on the list, but my message is showing up in the archives.
> Which is the correct behavior of the list?

When I post to the list, I receive my own message back along with everything
else on the list. I didn't do anything special; that's the default behavior.

I doubt it's possible to tell the list server to avoid sending me my own
messages.

Kevin


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make-kpkg: permission denied making modules_image

2003-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
I just configured, then made the kernel_image for a custom 2.4.21
kernel with a couple of patches:

  make-kpkg --append-to-version
  -diamond-grsec-1.9.10+freeswan-ext-1.99+preempt-20030617-2
  --revision 20030627.1726 --rootcmd fakeroot --config oldconfig
  --added-patches grsecurity-2-4,freeswan,preempt configure

  make-kpkg --append-to-version
  -diamond-grsec-1.9.10+freeswan-ext-1.99+preempt-20030617-2 --rootcmd
  fakeroot kernel-image kernel-headers

these worked quite nicely.

Then I tried to compile a module for that kernel:

  make-kpkg --append-to-version
  -diamond-grsec-1.9.10+freeswan-ext-1.99+preempt-20030617-2
  --rootcmd fakeroot --added-modules nvidia modules_image

This fails:

  if [ -f /usr/src/modules/nvidia/debian/control.template ]; then \
cp -a /usr/src/modules/nvidia/debian/control.template
  /usr/src/modules/nvidia/debian/control; \
  fi
  cp: cannot create regular file
  `/usr/src/modules/nvidia/debian/control': Permission denied

which makes perfect sense, because

  diamond:...new/src/linux-2.4.21> id
  uid=1000(madduck) gid=100(users) ...

I consider this a bug, but I can't imagine that this bug exists
because make-kpkg has existed for ages, and this is, after all,
Debian.

So I am wondering: what am I doing wrong? I *should* be able to
compile modules for an existing kernel tree without write privs to
/usr/src/modules/..., right?

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Re: ADI Soundmax 1881 (intel chipset) w/ ALSA Drivers

2003-06-28 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:57:22AM -0500, Michael Kahle wrote:
> Greetings fellow Debianites,
> 
> Sorry, this may be a little long winded.  For the past couple of days I have
> been trying off and on to get the ALSA drivers setup on my Woody box.

 
> Now when I launch XMMS as a user, trying to play a mp3 brings up the
> message:
> Please check that:
> 1. You have the correct output plug-in selected
> 2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard
> 3. Your soundcard is configured properly
> 
> Now when I run XMMS as root, it works just fine, plays my music just fine.
> 
> Is this a permissions issue with the sound card device(s)?  If so, what is
> the best (read most secure) way to enable access for my user account?

If it works as root, I'd say with some confidence that the drivers
*work* and it's a permission problem or xmms config problem or such.

Have you added your user account to the group "audio" yet?
* Note that being added to a group only takes effect on the
  next login (ie, if you're already logged in as that user, you'll
  need to log out completely and then log back in).

If that doesn't do it, take a look at what output plugin you're using
(as per the error message)...

> Any ideas why make-kpkg kernel-image does not work correctly with my
> Ethernet card?  (I realize this is a different post entirely, just thought I
> would bring it up.)

Nope, I'm afraid I haven't got a clue on that issue.

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Re: dual booting

2003-06-28 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:41:43 +1000
"Armin Catovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Just got a quick question. How do I dual boot my Debian 3.0 with Windows
> XP Professional with SP1. I would like to have the boot up screen when I
> start my PC so I can select between XP and the beautiful Debian.

Configure your bootloader to do just that.  My personal preference
is for grub; this should help you to understand grub:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622

Please also read:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Thanks,

-c

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PostgreSQL 7.3 Cron job trouble

2003-06-28 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hello,

My daily dselecting recently lead to a PostgreSQL update to version 7.3 on my debian 
testing box. Everything works fine aside from this error showing up daily:

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /usr/bin/test -x 
> /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/do.maintenance && 
> /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/do.maintenance -a
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 05:02:01 -0700
> Sender: CronDaemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: line 1: /sbin/runlevel: Permission denied

What's wrong here and how to fix it?

Thanks, Joh

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new HOWTO: debian on a dell i8k

2003-06-28 Thread nori heikkinen
i've written a mini-HOWTO about my experiences putting debian woody on
a dell inspiron 8000.  it's up here:
http://www.maenad.net/geek/di8k-debian/, and i would appreciate any
comments / suggestions / improvements people have about it.

thanks!



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Junk mail on the list.

2003-06-28 Thread alex
I'm getting a lot of junk mail that is addressed to this list.  Am I 
  the only one getting this stuff?

alex

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Re: dual booting

2003-06-28 Thread Dan Jones
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 08:41, Armin Catovic wrote:
> Hi,
> Just got a quick question. How do I dual boot my Debian 3.0 with Windows XP 
> Professional with SP1. I would like to have the boot up screen when I start 
> my PC so I can select between XP and the beautiful Debian.

So what are you asking?  Do you want to know how to install both OS's,
which OS loader to use, how to configure LILO or what?


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Re: kernelling the debian way

2003-06-28 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 12:05:21 -0400
Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 11:58:33AM -0400, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> > The .config file won't be overwritten if you use a different
> > --append-to-version value for each new kernel. It's saved as
> > /boot/config-<--append-to-version>.
> 
> It is overwritten then, but it is also saved in another directory.

I didn't understand what you were getting at.

Clarifying/amplifying what I said before:

"There can be only one" /.config, so it is replaced each
time you save and exit menuconfig or xconfig. (The one you started with is
moved to .config.old.)

This is true whether or not you use make-kpkg, and it's true whether or not
you patch the kernel.

make-kpkg puts a copy of .config in the kernel .deb. The config isn't really
saved in /boot as I wrote before; it's written there along with the kernel
and System.map when you install the kernel .deb.

If you want to move a configuration out of harm's way before changing it,
the easiest way is probably to copy it to another name (other than
.config.old).

I'm sorry for the poor wording before; the stuff you already know is for
lurkers. :)

Kevin


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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:22:21PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
> list, my message would be returned to me from the server at 
> the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
> Now that is not happening. Now, when I post, I see nothing
> on the list, but my message is showing up in the archives.
> Which is the correct behavior of the list?
> 
> I would like to see my message show up. The message in my
> inbox is a nice anchor for collecting replies. But if policy
> is to not echo the message, what is recommended as a way to
> collect in one place the replies to a request for advice?
> 
> Sorry for the several test messages. I had a question about
> exim that I posted, and from my vantage point, it never 
> showed up on the list (and I never got replies). I thought
> maybe I had messed up my email config while poking at the
> exim issue. Now I know that I'm simply not getting an echo
> of my message, but why?

I would guess the problem is at your end, as nobody else has posted
that they're having problems with the list.

Have a look in your exim logs, and see if there are any messages from
the list that are being treated differently to the rest. In
particular, make sure you're not bouncing any list mail, or you will
end up being automatically unsubscribed.

Your exim question did get through, and attracted a reply from the
dman himself, which I am quoting below, and also CCing you in case
replies to your posts are also not getting through.

Pigeon

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:42:00PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:18:07PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> | 
> | I have ppp connection to my ISP, peakpeak.com.
> [...]
> | choice 2 in 'eximconfig'
> 
> What is the name for that choice?  I no longer have the script (having
> removed the old debian exim v3 package ages ago).
> 
> [...]
> | 1. I can't send email to my wife, and 
> | 2. I can't send email to ISP support services,
> |   for which the address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | 
> | I think that these two problems are the result of improper
> | configuration of exim.
> 
> You are correct.
> 
> | Exim seems to be attempting to deliver both
> | kinds of email locally rather than sending them out to the smtp
> | service at the ISP, and, of course, it can't deliver because neither
> | address is known locally.
> 
> This is because you told exim that your machine is the handler for
> peakpeak.com.
> 
> | Am I right about this being an exim config problem? And, 
> | what should I change to fix it?
> 
> In /etc/exim/exim.conf find where peakpeak.com is referenced.  Remove
> those references ;-).
> 
> A quick perusal of my old v3 config indicates that the option is named
> "local_domains".
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: ssh

2003-06-28 Thread Arnd Fischer
Oki DZ wrote:

> From man ssh:
> "   X11 and TCP forwarding
>  If the ForwardX11 variable is set to ``yes'' (or, see the "
> 
> It already set.
> 
> " from the local machine.  The user should not manually set DISPLAY.
> For-
>  warding of X11 connections can be configured on the command line or
> in
>  configuration files."
> 
> No, I didn't set it.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh bdg2
> Linux bdg 2.4.18-evms-lkcd #1 Thu Dec 19 10:03:08 WIT 2002 i686 unknown
> unknown GNU/Linux
> ...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY
> localhost:10.0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xterm
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
> 
> What gives?
> 
> Should I tinker with xauth, xhost, etc.?

No. Try ssh -X bdg2

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Linux debian source code.

2003-06-28 Thread Fabio Miranda Hamburger
How can i get the source code of linux debian -stable?
If I want to get it from a ftp mirror, what would be the full directory
to reach it?

thanks.



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Re: I have a problem with this list

2003-06-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
(note: I cc'd this to Paul to avoid the current list delays)

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:22:21PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
| I think that it used to be that when I posted to this
| list, my message would be returned to me from the server at 
| the time that it was sent out to everyone else on the list.
| Now that is not happening.

Are you sure?  Check the Received: headers on some messages.
For example, the message I'm replying to has this :

Received: from murphy.debian.org ([146.82.138.6])
by dman13.dyndns.org (Exim 4.05 #8) protocol: esmtp
id 19VoAp-000324-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 04:01:35 -0400
***>   ^^
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
id 64A521FABD; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:45:13 -0500 (CDT)
Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from gash2.peakpeak.com (mail.peakpeak.com [207.174.178.17])
by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD041F9AB
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:22:57 -0500 (CDT)
***> ^^
Received: from big.lan.gnu (tz0165.peakpeak.com [207.174.69.165])
by gash2.peakpeak.com (8.9.3/8.9.3.1) with ESMTP id OAA23482
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:22:42 -0600
Received: from pecondon by big.lan.gnu with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))
id 19VdGA-0001gT-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:22:22 -0600

So, you sent the message yesterday at 2:22pm (-0600).  I received it
today, at 4:01am (-0400) which is the same as 2:01am -0600.  Murphy
must be really overloaded now because it took about 12 hours for your
message to make the round trip.  I guess the archive pages were
rebuilt in less than those 12 hours, so the message appeared in the
archive before I (and you, presumably) received it.

| Sorry for the several test messages. I had a question about
| exim that I posted, and from my vantage point, it never 
| showed up on the list

I saw it.

| (and I never got replies).

I replied about 6 hours before I received my reply through the list
:-).

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200306/msg04070.html

| I thought maybe I had messed up my email config while poking at the
| exim issue.

It's a reasonable thought.

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