Re: Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:07:04AM -0400, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> I am running Woody, and loading some packages I want from backports I've
> found on the web.
> 
> It seems that installing the Gnome 2 backport removes my KDE desktop. 
> I've even found a KDE 3.1 site, but the Gnome 2 install threatens to
> remove KDE without replacement.

I don't think that should be a problem any more in unstable, now that
libfam0c102 provides libfam0. You'd really need to ask whoever maintains
the backports, though, or at least tell us which backports you're using.

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Unbootable FastTrak TX2 100

2003-06-04 Thread Chad Walstrom
[[[ Please "Cc:" me, as I'm not subscribed to the list. ]]]

I admit it.  I'm spoiled.  I have come to expect Linux setups to just
"work", so when they don't I'm quite tenacious in trying to fix things.
Currently, I'm trying to get an APPRO 1124i system
(http://www.appro.com) to work using the Linux 2.4.18 native ataraid
support.  This PC Class server is using the Tyan Thunder K7 motherboard,
dual AMD MP2400+ processors, 1GB DDRAM, and the Promise FastTrak TX2 100
PCI card.  I have the 4 disk Array Configured in "Security" mode or
Mirror/Stripe.

I'm booting with LordSutch's Debian Woody 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel, which has
ataraid support compiled in (yes, I know this is a Red Hat list).  The
machine boots successfully off of CD and recognizes the ataraid device
correctly.  I've been able to partition and format the ataraid device
with a working Debian install.  What I cannot seem to accomplish is to
boot the system off this raid device: /dev/ataraid/d0. 

Grub simply won't ackowledge the ataraid device as useable and instead
just lists the four physical drives as being available.  lilo 22.2-3
installs into the MBR, but fails with "L 01 01 01 01...".  lilo 22.5.4
installs, but instead fails at boot time with "L 99 99 99 99 99".
Apparently something was fixed between 22.2 and 22.5 to allow lilo to
see the device correctly, but now it doesn't seem to want to accept the
detected geometry as correct.

I've compared the geometry as reported by the Promise card at boot time
with the geometry from the lilo diagnostic disk (compiled from 22.5.4
source), and they match perfectly.

I have not touched the /dev/hd[e-h] devices as directed by the FAQ's,
etc.

I honestly don't know what else to do.  I don't know if this problem is
isolated to lilo or if it's influenced by what the initial kernel is
reporting to lilo.  Should I be upgrading the installation kernel to
2.4.20?  2.4.21-preX?  Does the ataraid driver support the mirror/stripe
configuration I'm using, or am I being naieve?  Advice? Flames? Etc.

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Re: /bin/bash: Permission denied

2003-06-04 Thread Dan Dofton
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:32:46 +0200
"gabriel meier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >> So login is possible at the moment only for root.   
> > >> I checked all the user rights of / /bin /bin/bash and its dependend

A few ideas come to mind:

Did your non-root logins ever work?
When did the problem start happening?

What are the permissions of your home directory and the dot files in it?

Try login in as root and
root# strace su gmeier -c /bin/bash
and see if anything is revealed.

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Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote:
} On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote:
[...]
} > How odd. I'm using sawfish from testing (i.e. sarge, i.e. version 1:1.3-2)
} > with GNOME2 and it works just fine. A version or two ago they broke the
} > configuration tool (sawfish-ui), but it works now and it uses GTK2. My
} > bound keystrokes work every time. GNOME2 has also gotten pretty solid and
} 
} It is only whn I run an external command (eg xterm, galeon) that cause a
} problem. Internal commands (next work-space, shade etc) all work
} perfectly.
} 
} Can you binding say Galeon to a key and see if it works for you?

I have several shell commands bound to keys (e.g. xscreensaver-command
-lock), and they work fine. I have had some path issues on occasion, so try
giving the full path rather than just the command.

} > stable, and now that gaim is GTK2 everything I use plays nice together
} > (well, okay, it can't remember anything about xterms and I refuse to use
} > any other terminal emulator, but that's a personal problem).
} 
} How can you live without a terminal!?!?!?!?

You misunderstand. I use xterm. I use many xterms. But I only use xterm.

[...]
} rgh
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Re: Local copy of mails in IMAP folder?

2003-06-04 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente

> Joerg Johannes wrote:
> > I use kmail/IMAP protocol to read mails for one of my accounts. Today I
> > recognized that I can only read the mails when I am connected to the
> > net. I see the folder contents, but the message bodies are not
> > displayed. Is there a way to get a local copy of those mails, so that I
> > can read them weh I'm offline, too (and archive them on a backup CD)?
>
> offlineimap?
>
> (don't know if KMail supports Maildir, though)

>From KDE 3.x on , it does. 2.x versions do not.


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Re: Local copy of mails in IMAP folder?

2003-06-04 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
> > Joerg Johannes wrote:
> > > I use kmail/IMAP protocol to read mails for one of my accounts. Today I
> > > recognized that I can only read the mails when I am connected to the
> > > net. I see the folder contents, but the message bodies are not
> > > displayed. Is there a way to get a local copy of those mails, so that I
> > > can read them weh I'm offline, too (and archive them on a backup CD)?
> >
> > offlineimap?
> >
> > (don't know if KMail supports Maildir, though)
>
> It does.  What about courier-imap ?

I didn't get it how you'ld solve the problem with courier-imap:
Courier is a imap server. Are you suggesting to run it locally?
And how would you fetch/synchronize from the remote server? Via IMAP
aswell?


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[SOLVED] Re: Q: Pointers to configure SMTP AUTH

2003-06-04 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi Alexander and Gregory,

thanks for your help, using cram-md5 authentifacation and encrypting the
transfer over ssl works now.

Ciao,
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Re: DriveStatusError

2003-06-04 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 03:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 11:58:09PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> > hdc: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hdc: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
>
> Drive is dead.  Expect serious problems to develop quickly from this
> point, don't expect good things after a reboot or power down.  Time to
> get a new drive.

That's exactly the point. Error 0x04 does NOT necessarily mean this. If 
there's BadCRC or anything other than DriveStatusError alone, things are 
different, but DriveStatusError alone seems to be more or less harmless. The 
thing that irritated me was that nobody seemed to know what those messages 
were about, and the link I posted was the _only_ halfway authoritative thing 
I found about it in two hours worth of googling.

After I activated SMART, the drive went through 'mke2fs -c -c' without a 
hitch, BTW.

> > Got Backup?
>
> Do you?  That's also a good idea right now.

Believe me, I do. After a 9GB SCSI drive blew up without any warning, I 
installed an 80GB mirrored RAID on a machine and rsync regularly.

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Re: Local copy of mails in IMAP folder?

2003-06-04 Thread Dan Dofton
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:36:52 +0200
Joerg Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a way to get a local copy of those mails, so that I 
> can read them weh I'm offline, too (and archive them on a backup CD)?

I use fetchmail to dump my imap mail into my local spool via exim.  I then
have it locally available to sort with Sylpheed's filters .

Here's how I do it:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ cat .bash_profile

if [[ `pgrep fetchmail` == "" ]]; then fetchmail -d 30; fi
. .bashrc

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ cat .fetchmailrc
poll mail.4cls.org with proto IMAP
user 'ddofton'
password '*'
folders main ipswitch
keep
 


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USB Epson scanner problem

2003-06-04 Thread Andrew Perrin
Greetings-

I've been trying to move my scanner (an Epson 1640SU) from SCSI to USB in
preparation for a new machine which will not have a SCSI card.  I've got
USB working (it mounts a USB memory stick fine) and the scanner module
installed, as well as hotplug. Hotplug notices the scanner and assigns it
to the usbscanner driver. sane-find-scanner finds the scanner. But xsane
and scanimage don't. Any advice?

Debian 3.0 (woody)
Kernel 2.4.20

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sane-find-scanner
# Note that sane-find-scanner will find any scanner that is connected
# to a SCSI bus and some scanners that are connected to the Universal
# Serial Bus (USB) depending on your OS. It will even find scanners
# that are not supported at all by SANE. It won't find a scanner that
# is connected to a parallel or proprietary port.

# You may want to run this program as super-user to find all devices.
# Once you found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access
# permissions as necessary.

sane-find-scanner: found USB scanner (vendor = 0x04b8, product = 0x010a)
at device /dev/usbscanner
sane-find-scanner: found USB scanner (vendor = 0x04b8, product = 0x010a)
at device /dev/usbscanner0





[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ scanimage
scanimage: no SANE devices found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ scanimage --list-devices

No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).




Thanks-
Andy

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Root RAID with Debian supplied kernels?

2003-06-04 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hello,

Has anyone succeeded in making Debian boot a root RAID array
with a stock kernel?  I've gone through this twice now and cannot figure
out how why the initrd I'm making isn't working.  For now I've punted
and gone back to compiling custom kernels, but I was surprised to see
that google doesn't really turn up any links on the subject.

So if anyone has a setup like this working, I'd greatly
appreciate a description of how you managed it.

PS: Please, CC me any responses since I do not subscribe - much
appreciated.

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Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Heycock
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:51, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote:
> } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> [...]
> } > How odd. I'm using sawfish from testing (i.e. sarge, i.e. version 1:1.3-2)
> } > with GNOME2 and it works just fine. A version or two ago they broke the
> } > configuration tool (sawfish-ui), but it works now and it uses GTK2. My
> } > bound keystrokes work every time. GNOME2 has also gotten pretty solid and
> } 
> } It is only whn I run an external command (eg xterm, galeon) that cause a
> } problem. Internal commands (next work-space, shade etc) all work
> } perfectly.
> } 
> } Can you binding say Galeon to a key and see if it works for you?
> 
> I have several shell commands bound to keys (e.g. xscreensaver-command
> -lock), and they work fine. I have had some path issues on occasion, so try
> giving the full path rather than just the command.

Tried that. The same. To recapitulate. I've tried it:

* not using a path
* using the full path
* using the inbuilt Xterm command.

All the same. I don't even know how to go about debugging it. Having
said that I just tried strace'ing sawfish and guess what it works every
time. I hate stuff like this.

So does this mean that it's not sawfish at fault, is it one of the
libraries? Mutter, Mutter...

Could you check that these are the same:

librep.so.9 => /usr/lib/librep.so.9 (0x40012000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x4007)
libgmp.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 (0x4009d000)
libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0 =>
/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0 (0x400c5000)
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
(0x400d4000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x400e5000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x40106000)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x40136000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4013a000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x4013d000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x4019f000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401a7000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x401bc000)
libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40278000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40289000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x402d9000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x402e6000)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x402ed000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40312000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4032)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40333000)
libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x40443000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

I'm running out of ideas here.


> } > stable, and now that gaim is GTK2 everything I use plays nice together
> } > (well, okay, it can't remember anything about xterms and I refuse to use
> } > any other terminal emulator, but that's a personal problem).
> } 
> } How can you live without a terminal!?!?!?!?
> 
> You misunderstand. I use xterm. I use many xterms. But I only use xterm.

A. I tried gnome-terminal for a while but I reverted back to xterm
(uxterm actually). 

rgh

> 
> [...]
> } rgh
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Ethernet lockup

2003-06-04 Thread David List
I have noticed a thread on this list around a week ago that dealt with
the ethernet lockup with the Linux hme driver.
There was a posting by Joshua Uziel that pointed to a patch to this
driver. I'm new to Debian so my question may seem strange to some here,
but I cannot see how to use this patch since the 2.4.18 kernel that
comes with my 3.0_r1 installation seems to be monolithic, and vanilla
kernel source does not build on my system.

How does one go about this?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
David List


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Problem: want x-window-system without xdm

2003-06-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I have installed x-window-system in order to use gnopernicus for gnome
accessibility. But I do not want X to start at boot.
I was advised to change my runlevel from 2 to 3 in my /etc/inittab but that did
not solve my problem. finally I removed xdm using
--ignore-dpendency=x-window-system. My installation works fine, including
gnopernicus/gnome. However, now apt-get won't let me upgrade or add packages; it
just keeps complaining about how i should run 'apt-get -f install" because of
the unmet dependencies.
I am using debian unstable; in earlier distributions you could install
x-window-system without xdm; I'm not sure when or why that changed. Is there
anything I can do about this?

thanks.

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cron

2003-06-04 Thread kevin
 How do I fix this cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?
 
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Was Sie nicht wissen sollten

2003-06-04 Thread Marcel
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03. Juni 2003
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Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:52:46AM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote:
} On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:51, Gregory Seidman wrote:
} > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote:
} > } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote:
[...]
} > I have several shell commands bound to keys (e.g. xscreensaver-command
} > -lock), and they work fine. I have had some path issues on occasion, so try
} > giving the full path rather than just the command.
} 
} Tried that. The same. To recapitulate. I've tried it:
} 
}   * not using a path
}   * using the full path
}   * using the inbuilt Xterm command.
} 
} All the same. I don't even know how to go about debugging it. Having
} said that I just tried strace'ing sawfish and guess what it works every
} time. I hate stuff like this.
} 
} So does this mean that it's not sawfish at fault, is it one of the
} libraries? Mutter, Mutter...
} 
} Could you check that these are the same:
[...]

Other than the hex in parens, they are the same. I don't know what the hex
numbers signify but, with the exception of librep and /lib/ld-linux.so.2,
yours are all higher than mine. In fact, they are all higher by either
0x1000 or 0x3000. I have no idea what that signifies.

} I'm running out of ideas here.

I don't have any better ideas either, I'm afraid. Try apt-get install
--reinstall on sawfish and those various libraries?

[...]
} rgh
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Re: Problem: want x-window-system without xdm

2003-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:21:44AM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> I have installed x-window-system in order to use gnopernicus for gnome
> accessibility. But I do not want X to start at boot. I was advised to
> change my runlevel from 2 to 3 in my /etc/inittab but that did not
> solve my problem.

That was wrong advice from somebody used to Red Hat or similar. You can
do something like 'mv /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm /etc/rc2.d/s99xdm' on Debian.

> finally I removed xdm using --ignore-dpendency=x-window-system. My
> installation works fine, including gnopernicus/gnome. However, now
> apt-get won't let me upgrade or add packages; it just keeps
> complaining about how i should run 'apt-get -f install" because of the
> unmet dependencies. I am using debian unstable; in earlier
> distributions you could install x-window-system without xdm; I'm not
> sure when or why that changed. Is there anything I can do about this?

Yes, remove x-window-system. It's only a metapackage for convenience, to
install a more or less complete X Window System; if it's not convenient,
remove it.

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Re: Local copy of mails in IMAP folder?

2003-06-04 Thread Mark Roach
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 06:36, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> I use kmail/IMAP protocol to read mails for one of my accounts. Today I 
> recognized that I can only read the mails when I am connected to the 
> net. I see the folder contents, but the message bodies are not 
> displayed. Is there a way to get a local copy of those mails, so that I 
> can read them weh I'm offline, too (and archive them on a backup CD)?

Try archivemail, it's great for keeping archives and auto-cleaning you
mailing list folders. It can read from imap, mbox, and maildir, and save
as compressed or uncompressed mbox files suitable for reading with your
favorite mail client.

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Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Heycock
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 01:54, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:52:46AM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote:
> } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:51, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> } > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote:
> } > } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> [...]
> } > I have several shell commands bound to keys (e.g. xscreensaver-command
> } > -lock), and they work fine. I have had some path issues on occasion, so try
> } > giving the full path rather than just the command.
> } 
> } Tried that. The same. To recapitulate. I've tried it:
> } 
> } * not using a path
> } * using the full path
> } * using the inbuilt Xterm command.
> } 
> } All the same. I don't even know how to go about debugging it. Having
> } said that I just tried strace'ing sawfish and guess what it works every
> } time. I hate stuff like this.
> } 
> } So does this mean that it's not sawfish at fault, is it one of the
> } libraries? Mutter, Mutter...
> } 
> } Could you check that these are the same:
> [...]
> 
> Other than the hex in parens, they are the same. I don't know what the hex
> numbers signify but, with the exception of librep and /lib/ld-linux.so.2,
> yours are all higher than mine. In fact, they are all higher by either
> 0x1000 or 0x3000. I have no idea what that signifies.

It's the address of where it resides in memory.

> 
> } I'm running out of ideas here.
> 
> I don't have any better ideas either, I'm afraid. Try apt-get install
> --reinstall on sawfish and those various libraries?

I think you probably right I'll give it a go.

rgh


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Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Proulx
John Hasler wrote:
> Deryk Barker writes:
> > Actually it's mainly the hard drive manufacturers.
> And the ISO.

In the digital world we had this nice system of binary powers of two.
But the non-digital side of life claims prior art in this area.

  http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

I feel like I am in a dispute over which end of the egg to break open!
[Do they really expect their "pronunciation" suggestions to catch on?
Looks more like a not so obvious attempt to squash the binary terms.]

Sigh.

Bob

P.S. Note that the coreutils and other support your choice to decide
for yourself by --human-readable versus --si in 'ls' for example.


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Re: Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread James Strandboge
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 09:07, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> It seems that installing the Gnome 2 backport removes my KDE desktop. 
> I've even found a KDE 3.1 site, but the Gnome 2 install threatens to
> remove KDE without replacement.
> 
Which gnome2 backport?  The gnome2.2 I maintain coexists with kde from
woody, but I don't know about kde 3.1.

Mine uses this line in sources.list:
deb
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody 
gnome2.2/

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Re: Intel 82562ET NIC on Intel D845GEBV2

2003-06-04 Thread Nick Lidakis
ourclan wrote:

Hello

I am trying to install Debian using a Debian CD (just
downloaded latest stable ISO) to a Intel D845GEBV2
Motherboard. This motherboard as an integrated Intel
82562ET NIC. 

So I try to have it install the eepro100 module, but
it doesn't install. I did check and the NIC is enabled
in BIOS.
Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks.

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I noticed that there are 2 verison of this kernel driver in kernel 
2.4.19 and above (I'm not 100% about that),  the standard version (by 
Donald Becker IIRC) and Intel's version. You might want to try compiling 
one of these kernel's on another machine perhaps? Intel's module goes by 
the name of e100.

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ergonomic laptop keyboard?

2003-06-04 Thread Nori Heikkinen
hello geeks,

i'm about to begin work at a new job.  the shop is really chill, to
such a degree that everyone hangs out on couches and beanbag chairs
and works on laptops.  this is awesome, but for one factor -- i can't
type on a laptop for longer than about 20 minutes without severe wrist
pain.  this isn't usually a problem, as i have a desktop system at
home and in the lab where i've been, and work on ergonomic keyboards
(e.g., the Micro$oft Natural).

what would be ideal for me i don't think exists yet, and google isn't
helping.  I would love to see a normal laptop, but with a keyboard
whose two halves could pop up in the middle, and then rotate inwards
to whatever degree the user wanted, kind of like [1], except built
into a laptop, and without the numerical keypad, obviously.

does such a thing exist?  if not, could i build one myself somehow?
how can i get whoever makes laptops to design one?  could i patent it?
(heh heh ...)  whatever; i just want a laptop that I can type on ...

any tips would be appreciated.



[1] http://www.maenad.net/geek/split_keyboard.jpg

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Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package?

2003-06-04 Thread J F

Is there a trusted place to apt-get
Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package?

I really like Netscape better than Mozilla since
it seems to work with more websites
(like flash) and has a spell checker already
built in.


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Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Deryk Barker writes:
> > Actually it's mainly the hard drive manufacturers.
> 
> And the ISO.
> 
> > To them 1GB = 1,000,000,000 as you note above.
> 
> Correct.  Giga -> 10^9 = 1,000,000,000.
> 
> > Of course, most software does the right thing and report in terms of
> > powers of 2, where 1GB = 1,073,741,824.
> 
> Incorrect.  Gibi -> 2^30 = 1,073,741,824.

Which, unless my eyes are far worse than my optician thinks, is
*precisely* the number I entered above. 

Evidently I'm missing your point.

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Re: Inserting a into sed's replacement string

2003-06-04 Thread bob parker
On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:16, Vineet Kumar wrote:

> > Attempting to actually type a tab key in the place of the '\t' in the
> > replacement string just has the xterm barfing and I get the same result
> > if I log on in a real terminal. So does attempting to insert Ctrl-I.
>
> Try typing ctrl-v before the tab.  The ctrl-v allows you to insert the
> next character you type literally, be it tab, newline, backspace,
> whatever.
>
Thanks,
The ctrl-v seems to work the best.
Thanks to all who replied.

Regards
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cdrecord: behaves as if not suid root when it is, sorta.

2003-06-04 Thread Chris Metzler

Hi.  I've used cdrecord lots of times, but I've just recently run into
an odd problem.  When I use cdrecord as a non-root user, I get warning
messages that are not present if I use cdrecord as root:

cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.

>From searching the web/newsgroups, I can see that this is fairly
common -- cdrecord needs to be run as root, or as suid root.  However,
there are a few important differences.  First, I *don't* also get the
warning message of:

cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2).

which usually comes with trying to run cdrecord as non-root and
without suid root access.  Second, cdrecord *does* proceed to the
write -- it doesn't say:

cdrecord: Read-only file system. Cannot open '/dev/cdrom'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.

and quit like it normally does if you try to run it as non-root and
without suid root access.  And finally, and most importantly,
my cdrecord *is* suid root:

stax:/usr/src-789> ls -al /usr/bin/cdrecord
-rws--s---1 root cdrom  314476 May 14 05:28 /usr/bin/cdrecord*

Other potentially useful info:

stax:/usr/src-790> groups
cmetzler cdrom floppy audio dip src video users

stax:/usr/src-791> ls -al /dev/scd0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   0 Aug 27  2002 /dev/scd0

stax:/usr/bin-805> dir /usr/bin/cdrdao
-rwsr-xr-x1 root root   532292 Oct 15  2002 /usr/bin/cdrdao*

Does anyone have a clue why I'm getting these warning messages?  What
have I missed?

Thanks much.

-c



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Re: Compiling 2.4.18-BF from apt-get source

2003-06-04 Thread Ben Kal
On 2 Jun 2003 Jesse Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003, Kevin McKinley wrote:
>
> That being said, then how do you then remake the kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 
> package?  I could just replace the kernel image without telling  dpkg, but
> that doesn't seem to be a good idea.  Life's easier when I don't  go
> behind the package manager's back.

One more tip for dealing with Debian packages of custom kernels and other
home-brewn 'Debianized' software: it is possible to maintain a local archive
of Debian packages, on your hard disk, from which you can install packages
with apt-get just like from a cd or an ftp site. If the directory you put
such a local arhive in were
  /var/lib/deb
you would have to specify it in /etc/apt/sources.list as
  deb file:/var/lib/ deb/
man dpkg-scanpackages provides more information on setting up a local Debian
archive.

It takes some trouble to add packages to (or remove them from) a local
archive. In particular, after every addition or removal one has to run
dpkg-scanpackages with the right parameters, and apt-get update, to update
the list of available packages. I have automated this with two scripts and
since then it has been very easy to work with my local Debian archive.

Regards,
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Re: More dist-upgrade problems on stable

2003-06-04 Thread Ben Kal
On 2 Jun 2003 stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency 
> Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 76%Building 
> Dependency Tree... Done
> Calculating Upgrade... Failed
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held 
> packages.

> What can I do to fix this?

What I have done when I got messages like this was: trying an install of
the packages that were reported to not going to be installed or to be
not installable. Not in the expectation that they might nevertheless
be installed, but to see what error messages that would generate.
Generally, these say something about the cause of the 'uninstallibility'.
If that cause was that the uninstallable packages depend on one or more
other packages that were uninstallable, I repeated the procedure for those
other packages. Up to now, I always pretty soon found some 'root cause' of
the problem that could be solved by installing / upgrading / removing
packages in the right sequence.

But I admit I never had to do this during a dist-upgrade  The chain
of dependencies you will encounter when trying this method may be
very long. Just try if no one offers you a better solution.

Regards,
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Re: xscreensaver not starting with Gnome

2003-06-04 Thread Ben Kal
On 2 Jun 2003 Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do I make xscreensaver start when I log into Gnome? Currently I have
> to  right click on the lock applet > Restart Daemon before I can lock my
> screen.
>
> I have xscreensaver-gnome 3.34 with Gnome 1.4 on Woody.

Then you probably have to deal with the problem that the Gnome screensaver
configuration tool messes things up. Read
  http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#gnomecc

If you don't want to upgrade to versions of xscreensaver and
gnome-control-center that do not have this problem, then configure
xscreensaver by editing
  /etc/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver-nogl  for system-wide defaults,
  ~/.xscreensaver (suppose 3.34 has that file) for user customization
and never touch the Gnome screensaver configuration tool.

To make xscreensaver start on every login to Gnome, put the line
  xscreensaver &
into
  ~/.xsession
before the line
  gnome-session

Read
  http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man1.html
for more info about xscreensaver.

Regards,
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Re: Where is $MAIL set? (login process)

2003-06-04 Thread Ben Kal
In a message of 1 Jun 2003 Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  This time I decided to start using xdm to manage logins.
>
> This caused icewm to no longer display the little mailbox icon, so it 
> turned out that the problem was that MAIL was not being set when logging 
> in with xdm.
>
> From what I gather, login(1) sets MAIL, but xdm bypasses login.

Bypass is not the right word here, xdm *replaces* login.

> So, I'm wondering why MAIL is not being set with xdm (seem like it 
> should) 

So it seems to me, but more knowledgeable people may be able to explain
the good reason why it does not. It is not hard to have MAIL set in X
sessions started by xdm, you can insert a statement like
  export MAIL=/var/mail/$LOGNAME
in one of:
  /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession  called by xdm to start the user's X session, calls
  /etc/X11/Xsession  the general script to start an X session
  /home/*/.xsession  each user's customization of an X session
unless the more knowledgeable people I referred to before warn us that that
is a bad idea.

>  and I'd also like to understand how it gets set normally when  using
> login -- e.g. is it read set in a startup script?  I assume  there's a
> setting to say mail is in /var/mail/$USER.

'man login' tells me that login constructs MAIL from the information in
/etc/passwd. Exactly how is not stated; my guess is that login appemds the
user name of the user who has just logged in to the home directory of user
'mail', so that with the following lines in /etc/passwd
  mail:x:8:8:mail:/var/mail:/bin/sh
  ben:x:1001:100:Ben Kal,,,:/home/ben:/bin/bash
for user ben MAIL is assigned the value
  /var/mail/ben

> Secondly, is there a simple explanation of the boot and login process for
> Debian?  Something that explains the order of programs and scripts run.

The boot process:

I am afraid that a really *simple* explanantion would not add much to what
you already know, while a valuable explanation would be quite a long story
and requires knowledge of some details of your system, for instance what
boot loader you use and whether your kernel uses the 'hotplug' facility or
not.

My advice is to study the documentation of your boot loader and search the
web for descriptions of the boot process. I suppose there must be some.


The login process:

The man pages of
- login
- xdm
- bash or tcsh or any other shell you use
are pretty clear about what happens (mostly what startup scripts they
execute) under what circumstances. Issues to be aware of are:
- xdm replaces login but does not set up the environment in exactly the same
  way as login does, in particular it does not set MAIL as you have found
- the shell of an X terminal is not a login shell (the user is already
  logged in through xdm) so the startup scripts for login shells,
  /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile in the case of bash, are not executed!
  This easily causes the environment of shells on virtual consoles to be
  radically different from the environment of shells in X terminals.
- environment variables have to be set only once and are inherited by all
  processes that are children of the login shell or the X session,
  but things like aliases and shell options have to be set every time
  a shell is started.

To ensure that:
- the environment is the same in all shells
- on startup shells do not read more startup scripts than necessary
I did the following:
- put all settings of environment variables in /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile
- put all aliases and shell options in /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bahsrc
- made /etc/profile source /etc/bash.bashrc
- made ~/.bash_profile source ~/.bashrc
- made ~/.xsession source both /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile,
  after setting an environment variable that to /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile
  signals that they have been sourced by ~/.xsession;
  in that case they do not need to source /etc/bash.bashrc resp. ~/.bashrc,
  and instead unset that environment variable.

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xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
Is there a way to boot into a "safe-mode" instead of having xdm start? I
didn't configure it properly. When it starts up I get a totally useless
screen of junk. I need a way to boot the computer to the prompt instead of
having xdm start. Is it possible?

I tried running my install CD with "rescue" instead of install, but it
boots and uses xdm, which does'nt help me.

thanks!

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Re: Ethernet lockup

2003-06-04 Thread David List
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, David List wrote:

>I have noticed a thread on this list around a week ago that dealt with
>the ethernet lockup with the Linux hme driver.
..

Oops, that was on the debian-sparc list. Sorry.

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Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:55:33PM -0400, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 02:59:23 +0200 (CEST)
> Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > That is true only in the technical sense.  I.e., the spec sheet for my
> > laptop says it has a 20GB harddrive (and in 2 pt. font, at the bottom,
> > they define a GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes).  So, in the technical sense, my
> > drive is only 18.6 GB (20e9/1024^3).  Leave it up to the marketing types
> > to cloud the issue.
> 
> Actually the term for 1024^3 bytes is mebibyte, and 1024 of them is a
> gibibyte:

Gibidigibidibigigidigibigidibigidibibigibi

Human language isn't amenable to standardisation. In common usage,
kilo, mega etc. in the computer context refer to the power of 2 which
is closest to the power of 10 to which they refer in decimal contexts.
So a megabyte *is* 1048576 bytes, etc, and I don't think this usage is
particularly likely to change.

Of course, a megabyte is also 1024000 bytes, eg. when some program
gives you an output of a figure quoted in kilobytes and you mentally
shift it three places to the right to get the megabytes.

If only Ug in his cave had counted on his fingers in binary, we'd
never have had the problem...

It is interesting that SCSI hard drive specs do not attempt to mislead
you by exploiting this confusion. A gigabyte on a SCSI drive is a
real, honest, binary-context, 2^30 bytes gigabyte. If the same drive
mechanism is available with both SCSI and IDE interfaces, the IDE one
will be sold as (say) a 20GB drive and the SCSI version as 18.6GB.

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help: APT - locked

2003-06-04 Thread Guilherme Viebig
Hi all,

I was remote updating my system with ssh when the connection was lost, all
packages were downloaded.

Now, when i try to redo apt-get upgrade, i get this message

40 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded.
E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource
temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the download directory

Any hints?

thks..


Guilherme B. Viebig



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Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Deryk Barker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030603 10:38]:
> Thus spake John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > Deryk Barker writes:
> > > Actually it's mainly the hard drive manufacturers.
> > 
> > And the ISO.
> > 
> > > To them 1GB = 1,000,000,000 as you note above.
> > 
> > Correct.  Giga -> 10^9 = 1,000,000,000.
> > 
> > > Of course, most software does the right thing and report in terms of
> > > powers of 2, where 1GB = 1,073,741,824.
> > 
> > Incorrect.  Gibi -> 2^30 = 1,073,741,824.
> 
> Which, unless my eyes are far worse than my optician thinks, is
> *precisely* the number I entered above. 

Look at the unit, not the number.

> Evidently I'm missing your point.

I think his point was that 1073741824 is a gibibyte, commonly (?)
abbreviated as GiB.  GB is the abbreviation for gigabyte, 10
bytes.

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kdm init files and xmodmap

2003-06-04 Thread Tal Eisenberg
Hi, I bought a logitech cordless keyboard and I have been running xmodmap 
manualy on every startup for making the extra buttons work with X. As this is 
quite annoying to do everytime I want to put the xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc line on 
some init script that runs on X startup (I'm using KDM). The problem is I 
just can't find any file that will actually execute that line and add the new 
buttons. Where should I put it?

TIA, Tal


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Is mkboot bugged? Need another pair of eyes.

2003-06-04 Thread Chris Metzler

Hi.  mkboot (part of the debianutils package) appears to be bugged to me,
both in use and in looking at the code.  But I've looked in BTS and in
/usr/share/doc/debianutils, and have searched web, usenet, and mailing
list archives, and haven't turned up anything.  Since I'm almost always
not the first person to spot a bug, I suspect I'm just missing something.
So I'd like someone else to look at it, if they can.

There are two issues that I see; both involve the use of mkboot to create
a floppy off which one can boot.

1.  The man page for mkboot indicates that it uses the kernel /vmlinuz
by default, but that you can specify a different kernel on the command
line.  However, it doesn't say that when you supply the pathname for a
kernel to use, that pathname *can't* be the actual path to the kernel,
and that it *must* be a symbolic link instead.  But that appears to be
the way mkboot functions; if you supply a symbolic link to the kernel
you want, it works ok, while if you supply a full pathname to the actual
kernel file, it bombs.  It makes an ext2 filesystem on the floppy,
copies the kernel over, and then quits there, without doing anything
with a bootloader to make the floppy bootable.

Looking at the mkboot script, the problem appears to me to be in the
function "makelilo", and occurs just after the kernel is copied over,
in the following lines of code:

# if a symbolic link, look for the real file
kfile=`readlink $1`
# see if we need an "initrd=" line in lilo.conf
kdir=`dirname $kfile`
 
$1 is the command-line argument that carries the kernel path to use.
If a symbolic link is supplied, readlink returns the file that it
links to (which could itself be a symbolic link, by the way; did the
author of this script mean to use "readlink -f"?).  But if the kernel
path supplied *isn't* a symbolic link, readlink returns a null string.
In that case, the next line sees dirname not having enough arguments,
and the script bombs.

Or am I missing something?


2.  For the purposes of making a boot floppy, mkboot completely
assumes the use of lilo; if you do not have lilo around, the
script will bomb in one of two places.  This is not documented
in the man page, and the debianutils package doesn't have a
dependency on lilo.

There are functions present in the script for checking whether lilo
and/or grub are in use; but from my read of the main portion of the
script, those functions are only called in the case where mkboot is
being run as part of the new kernel installation process (that is,
with the "-i" flag), and they're only called to determine whether to
update your hard drive's MBR or whether to suggest updating grub's
menu.lst.  They're not used in the portion of the script that
involves making a boot floppy.

Instead, when making a boot floppy, the machine simply assumes the
use of lilo.  It attempts to construct a sensible lilo.conf for the
floppy, and then runs lilo on the floppy.  In my case, I don't even
have lilo installed; I use grub exclusively.  Since the attempt to
construct a sensible lilo.conf starts by reading in and parsing
/etc/lilo.conf, this fails because the file isn't present, and so
the script bombs there.  If the file *is* present but lilo itself
is not (say, you had lilo once upon a time, but replaced it with
grub; but the /etc/lilo.conf is still around), the script will instead
bomb when it tries to run lilo on the floppy.

Am I right about these?  Are these bug-report worthy?

Thanks.

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Re: PPPOE / ADSL fails

2003-06-04 Thread mark
Hi All,

What package contains 'adsl-start'? I couldn't find it...

I too can't connect with my new PPPoE/DSL setup.

Thanks,
Mark 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 04 Apr 2003 12:04:18 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian P. Flaherty) wrote:

Both of you should try adsl-start as an alternative.  I had been using
pppd at boot-time to get my DSL connection up and it has worked for
months.  However, about a week ago, it stopped working.  I fought with
it for a while.  Just to see what happened, I tried adsl-start and it
worked immediately.  I have not had time to figure out why this is,
but it worked for me.  I have been using that for the past week or so,
until I can figure out why.

Thanks for that. I'll give it a try.


By the way, I haven't been able to access news.verizon.net either
since this happened.  It doesn't respond to ping or anything.  I also
cannot ping it from other machines, so it seems down to me.  But it
seems strange that this occurred with the other change.  HTH.



That's weird. I waited to send you that server name until I had connected to
it and updated my list of newsgroups.

Today I can't ping either news servers.

FWIW, Verizon's mail servers have been like yo-yo's the past few days -- up
and down.


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Re: Apache mod-ssl HOWTOs?

2003-06-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
* ScruLoose ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030602 21:22]:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I've got apache 1.3 installed and running pretty much "straight out of
> the box", and I have mod-ssl installed but not configured yet.  
> On a Woody box, that is.
> 
> I want to have regular http access to most of the stuff on my server,
> but also a "private" area that would require https *and* some sort of
> user authentication (I assume auth-basic over https would be fine).
> 
> I have a single, dynamic IP address; so my domain is accessed through
> dynDNS.  According to the mod-ssl manual, I canNOT solve this using
> virtualhosts... https virtualhosts won't work without having separate IP
> addresses, apparently.

Have you read this?

http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/

Specifically,

http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_howto.html#ToC10

> So I *think* what I need to do is to have two separate invocations of
> apache running all the time: one listening for http on port 80 and the
> other listening for https on port, umm... 443 I think it was.

If you want to do this, don't use mod_ssl.  Just install apache and
apache-ssl; the two packages do precisely this: run a non-ssl webserver
and an ssl-only webserver that coexist independently.

good times,
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modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread john gennard
Some months ago I bought a modem as a spare for the wife.
At the time she ran W98 only. Now I've got her interested 
in Linux and she runs Knoppix as well as W2000.

I think the original modem is starting to give trouble, so
if possible I'd like to replace it with the spare, but I'm
not clear exactly what I have and the wealth of literature
seems to confuse me.

The modem is an external one made by (?for) Microcomputer
Research UK Ltd, uses a serial port and has a model No 1456 
EVS. The main chip inside the case shows:-
Conextant
Smart SCM/56
CX 88168-11
E73197.1
0035   TAIWAN

MRI does not support Linux and staff are unable to say if it 
will work with Koppix. They were not disinterested, just 
unable to help.

Is anyone conversant with this modem and able to help. (I
can't find out what 'SCM' means - there's a lot of talk of
'HCF' and 'HSF' but I don't understand exactly what is 
involved there). 

Grateful for any assistance or pointers.

John.



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Re: Compiling 2.4.18-BF from apt-get source

2003-06-04 Thread David Z Maze
Ben Kal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> One more tip for dealing with Debian packages of custom kernels and
> other home-brewn 'Debianized' software: it is possible to maintain a
> local archive of Debian packages, on your hard disk, from which you
> can install packages with apt-get just like from a cd or an ftp
> site.

The mini-dinstall package (not in stable, I don't think) is great for
this.  I think it does check that you have GPG-signed changes files
for everything, though, which can be a slight pain.  (The normal
Debian package build process does give you these, and make-kpkg has
good hooks for it, but individual kernel module packages don't
necessarily support it well; I keep meaning to file bugs but never get
around to it.)

> It takes some trouble to add packages to (or remove them from) a local
> archive. In particular, after every addition or removal one has to run
> dpkg-scanpackages with the right parameters,

'dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9 > Packages.gz' is actually
sufficient for a single directory with just a bunch of packages.

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Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread David Z Maze
"Emma Jane Hogbin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a way to boot into a "safe-mode" instead of having xdm start? I
> didn't configure it properly. When it starts up I get a totally useless
> screen of junk. I need a way to boot the computer to the prompt instead of
> having xdm start. Is it possible?

You might be looking for single-user mode; have your boot loader add
'single' as a parameter to the kernel.  (Probably type 'linux single'
if you're using LILO, edit the 'boot' line appropriately in GRUB.)
This starts you up with almost no services at all, but sometimes this
is what you want.

If you want, you can also set up a runlevel to start without xdm;
remove the appropriate symlink in /etc/rc3.d for runlevel 3, for
example.  'telinit 3' from the single-user boot prompt would then send
you into this runlevel; adding '3' to the kernel command line would
boot straight into it.

If your video card isn't that hosed by the abortive X startup, you
might also be able to switch to a text console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 after
you boot up normally.

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Re: help: APT - locked

2003-06-04 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Guilherme Viebig:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was remote updating my system with ssh when the connection was lost, all
> packages were downloaded.
> 
> Now, when i try to redo apt-get upgrade, i get this message
> 
> 40 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded.
> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource
> temporarily unavailable)
> E: Unable to lock the download directory

That specific error looks suspiciously like you're running out of file
descriptors on the system...

What does
 cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
return?

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Re: help: APT - locked

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:40:50PM -0300, Guilherme Viebig wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was remote updating my system with ssh when the connection was lost, all
> packages were downloaded.
> 
> Now, when i try to redo apt-get upgrade, i get this message
> 
> 40 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded.
> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource
> temporarily unavailable)
> E: Unable to lock the download directory

Looks like another process still has the lock. If only the connection
was severed, it is possible that the process is still running (but then,
wouldn't the update be finished by now? but I do not know when 'now'
is...).

The other possibility is that the process died, but could not remove the
lock file in time. If that is the case (check with ps first) you can
safely remove the lock file and try again.

HTH, David


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Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:11:35PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> Is there a way to boot into a "safe-mode"

Don't log in as root :-)

> instead of having xdm start? I
> didn't configure it properly. When it starts up I get a totally useless
> screen of junk. 

You've booted Windoze by mistake :-)

> I need a way to boot the computer to the prompt instead of
> having xdm start. Is it possible?

chmod a-x /etc/init.d/xdm 

or

rm /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm

Don't forget Ctrl-Alt-F[1..6] to get from your garbled X screen to a
console.

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what does rsync do when an input file changes?

2003-06-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
Anybody know OTTOYH how rsync would behave if an input file was changed
while it was doing its thing?  Does it check checksums after syncing a
file?  If it does, does it go back and try again if they don't match?
I'm migrating some huge files over a not-too-fast link, and other users
may write to these files during the rsync operation.  If rsync doesn't
handle this well, any suggestions for something that might?

I've also considered running rsync multiple times, so that on successive
passes it will pick up the changes.  I just hope that the first pass
won't generate inconsistent files on the target side if the file changes
in the middle.

Just thought I'd ask before digging into the code.

thanks,
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Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread Yves Delhaye
Have a look at
http://www.modem-drivers.com/drivers/79/79937.htm
AND
http://www.modem-drivers.com/companies/247.htm
But there is indeed no reference to linux!
YvD
john gennard wrote:
Some months ago I bought a modem as a spare for the wife.
At the time she ran W98 only. Now I've got her interested 
in Linux and she runs Knoppix as well as W2000.

I think the original modem is starting to give trouble, so
if possible I'd like to replace it with the spare, but I'm
not clear exactly what I have and the wealth of literature
seems to confuse me.
The modem is an external one made by (?for) Microcomputer
Research UK Ltd, uses a serial port and has a model No 1456 
EVS. The main chip inside the case shows:-
Conextant
Smart SCM/56
CX 88168-11
E73197.1
0035   TAIWAN

MRI does not support Linux and staff are unable to say if it 
will work with Koppix. They were not disinterested, just 
unable to help.

Is anyone conversant with this modem and able to help. (I
can't find out what 'SCM' means - there's a lot of talk of
'HCF' and 'HSF' but I don't understand exactly what is 
involved there). 

Grateful for any assistance or pointers.

John.





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How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Jürgen A . Erhard
Hi list.

[Please CC: me on list replies, I'm too far behind in ML traffic.
Thank you.]

I've googled every which way I can, but I didn't find it.  "It" being
a list of identifying markers for various mailing lists.

What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to
automatically sort mails from mailing lists.

To be usable with all filtering tools, such a procmail, mailagent,
maildrop etc, we'd need a list of headers, or specific header
contents, that various MLMs add to mails they explode.

For example, this procmail recipe automatically sorts mails coming
from a Mailman ML:

  DEFAULT=${HOME}/Maildir/

  LISTID=`formail -zc -xList-Id|sed 's/.*<\(.*\)>/\1/'|tr / -`
  MM_FOLDER=${DEFAULT}.${LISTID}/

  :0
  * ^List-Id:
  $MM_FOLDER

BTW, List-Id is defined in RFC2919.  I'd love it if all MLMs would use
that, then this whole problem would be solved.

Does such a list exists?  If not, I'd be willing to (try to) assemble
one.  Probably not that easy due to the various versions in use, and
various local hacks applied.

Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add
List-Id?  If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their
respective authors?

Bye, J

PS: This whole problem bothered me for years now... when I found out
about List-Id, I was happy.  Until I found the adoption rate to
be... depressing.

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Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:17:03PM +0100, john gennard wrote:
> Some months ago I bought a modem as a spare for the wife.
> At the time she ran W98 only. Now I've got her interested 
> in Linux and she runs Knoppix as well as W2000.
> 
> I think the original modem is starting to give trouble, so
> if possible I'd like to replace it with the spare, but I'm
> not clear exactly what I have and the wealth of literature
> seems to confuse me.
> 
> The modem is an external one made by (?for) Microcomputer
> Research UK Ltd, uses a serial port and has a model No 1456 
> EVS. The main chip inside the case shows:-
> Conextant
> Smart SCM/56
> CX 88168-11
> E73197.1
> 0035   TAIWAN
> 
> MRI does not support Linux and staff are unable to say if it 
> will work with Koppix. They were not disinterested, just 
> unable to help.
> 
> Is anyone conversant with this modem and able to help. (I
> can't find out what 'SCM' means - there's a lot of talk of
> 'HCF' and 'HSF' but I don't understand exactly what is 
> involved there). 

An external serial modem is as close to guaranteed to work with Linux
as you're likely to get... just try it and see. Do you have any
particular reason to believe it might not work?

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Resizing ReiserFS Partition

2003-06-04 Thread Aryan Ameri
Hi there:

I have a big partition here (8 GB) , which uses the ReiserFS filesystem 
(version 3.6 if I am not mistaking) and is mounted as my /home.

I want to split this partition in to two. I want to make my /home around 
3 GB, and make a new 5 GB partition out of it. currently this partition 
has about 2 GB data in it.

I wonder if such a thing is possible. Can I resize a ReiserFS partition, 
without losing data ? If yes, with what tool ?

Cheers

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Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread John Hasler
ohn gennard writes:
> The modem is an external one made by (?for) Microcomputer Research UK
> Ltd, uses a serial port...

You shouldn't need to do anything special.  Just plug it it in place of the
other one and it will probably work fine.  Most (unfortunately not all, but
most) external modems are fully interchangeable.
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Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:55:33PM -0400, Kevin McKinley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 02:59:23 +0200 (CEST)
> Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > That is true only in the technical sense.  I.e., the spec sheet for my
> > laptop says it has a 20GB harddrive (and in 2 pt. font, at the bottom,
> > they define a GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes).  So, in the technical sense, my
> > drive is only 18.6 GB (20e9/1024^3).  Leave it up to the marketing types
> > to cloud the issue.
> 
> Actually the term for 1024^3 bytes is mebibyte, and 1024 of them is a
> gibibyte:
> 
> http://kerneltrap.com/node.php?id=340&PHPSESSID=cc5d94e5ff669af1a325ba1d5196c985


Or perhaps more authoritatively:

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

See also:

http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SiPrefixesForBinaryMultiples
http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GiB
http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MiB

But oddly enough, not (yet):

http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/KiB

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Re: Problems with fetchmail and exim

2003-06-04 Thread David Härdeman
(I'm not subscribed to the list sp forgive me for not replying to my own message 
properly)

I recently asked for advice on how to make fetchmail + exim not choke on bogus email 
messages. I managed to find the answers by myself (much thanks to two different 
patches on the fetchmail-friends mailing list).

A more verbose explaination can be found in my post in the fetchmail-friends archive 
of June 2003:
http://lists.ccil.org/pipermail/fetchmail-friends/2003-June/thread.html

Hopefully this will help other people...

Regards,
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Re: Resizing ReiserFS Partition

2003-06-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:12:32PM +0300, Aryan Ameri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi there:
> 
> I have a big partition here (8 GB) , which uses the ReiserFS filesystem 
> (version 3.6 if I am not mistaking) and is mounted as my /home.
> 
> I want to split this partition in to two. I want to make my /home around 
> 3 GB, and make a new 5 GB partition out of it. currently this partition 
> has about 2 GB data in it.
> 
> I wonder if such a thing is possible. Can I resize a ReiserFS partition, 
> without losing data ? If yes, with what tool ?

I'd suggest looking at the progsreiserfs and reiserfsprogs packages.
They conflict.  Both claim to have resizers.

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On that note, see:

  http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SCOvsIBM

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Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi John,

> Some months ago I bought a modem as a spare for the wife.

Wow, impressive. No modem can replace *my* wife! ;-)

> The modem is an external one made by (?for) Microcomputer
> Research UK Ltd, uses a serial port and has a model No 1456 
> EVS. The main chip inside the case shows:-
> Conextant

Are you sure it's not "Conexant" (confused by Google's output here)?
Anyway, might be a Rockwell type chipset, so that should work.

> Grateful for any assistance or pointers.

I've found wvdial to be of great use:

 Description: PPP dialer with built-in intelligence.
 WvDial sacrifices some of the flexibility of programs like "chat" in
order
 to make your dialup configuration easier.  When you install this
package,
 your modem will be detected automatically and you need to specify just
 three parameters: the phone number, username, and password.  WvDial
knows
 enough to dial with most modems and log in to most servers without any
 other help.
 .
 In particular, you no longer need a "chat script" to handle the most
common
 situations.

That, and pppconfig.

HTH... Nico


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Re: Where is $MAIL set? (login process)

2003-06-04 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 04:54:46PM +0100, Ben Kal wrote:

> The login process:
> 
> The man pages of
> - login
> - xdm
> - bash or tcsh or any other shell you use
> are pretty clear about what happens (mostly what startup scripts they
> execute) under what circumstances. Issues to be aware of are:
> - xdm replaces login but does not set up the environment in exactly the same
>   way as login does, in particular it does not set MAIL as you have found
> - the shell of an X terminal is not a login shell (the user is already
>   logged in through xdm) so the startup scripts for login shells,
>   /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile in the case of bash, are not executed!
>   This easily causes the environment of shells on virtual consoles to be
>   radically different from the environment of shells in X terminals.

Yes, so now I'm sourcing those in my .xsession file.

> - environment variables have to be set only once and are inherited by all
>   processes that are children of the login shell or the X session,
>   but things like aliases and shell options have to be set every time
>   a shell is started.

Good to know.  (I'm still not clear about variables shown with "set", 
but I'm sure that's just a google away...)

> To ensure that:
> - the environment is the same in all shells
> - on startup shells do not read more startup scripts than necessary
> I did the following:
> - put all settings of environment variables in /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile
> - put all aliases and shell options in /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bahsrc
> - made /etc/profile source /etc/bash.bashrc
> - made ~/.bash_profile source ~/.bashrc
> - made ~/.xsession source both /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile,
>   after setting an environment variable that to /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile
>   signals that they have been sourced by ~/.xsession;
>   in that case they do not need to source /etc/bash.bashrc resp. ~/.bashrc,
>   and instead unset that environment variable.

Thanks, that's very helpful.


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Re: what does rsync do when an input file changes?

2003-06-04 Thread Conrad Newton
>From Vineet Kumar on Tuesday, 2003-06-03 at 12:37:58 -0700:
> Anybody know OTTOYH how rsync would behave if an input file was changed
> while it was doing its thing?  Does it check checksums after syncing a
> file?  If it does, does it go back and try again if they don't match?
> I'm migrating some huge files over a not-too-fast link, and other users
> may write to these files during the rsync operation.  If rsync doesn't
> handle this well, any suggestions for something that might?

I have heard of people successfully using rsync to download
a corrected version of a corrupted CD---only the corrections
were downloaded, not the whole CD.  This was over a modem.
I hope your connection is not any slower than that!

> I've also considered running rsync multiple times, so that on successive
> passes it will pick up the changes.  I just hope that the first pass
> won't generate inconsistent files on the target side if the file changes
> in the middle.

This was the first idea that occured to me, too.  I would guess
that more sophisticated procedures are possible, but I do not
know what they might be.

Conrad

> 
> Just thought I'd ask before digging into the code.
> 
> thanks,
> Vineet


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Re: error from root

2003-06-04 Thread Ernst-Magne Vindal
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:46:18AM +0200, Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote:
> > I keep getting this error:
> > Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts
> > --report /etc/cron.daily
> >
> > /bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found
> >
> > and when I do:
> > web:~# dpkg -l anacron
> > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> > |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
> > uppercase=bad)
> > ||/ Name   VersionDescription
> > +++-==-==-
> > pn  anacron (no description available)
> >
> > I get this.
> > So if I'm not totally off here, someting is running anacron,
> > wich isn't installed?
>
> You're totally off. :) The crontab entry quoted above is malformed; it
> looks to me like you or something else has taken a line from
> /etc/crontab and copied it straight into another crontab file. However,
> /etc/crontab has a special syntax: it has an extra field for the
> username, that is "root" above. When you use lines like that in other
> crontab files you need to remove the username field.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Thanks Collin, and the rest of you replying.

In my crontab I had added some jobs, and I't looked to me that one of the
them was mailformed.

I have edited the file and hope that helps, followed what's in man and
found some examples on the net.


Thanks all.

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Dlink DFE 690 TXD vs. Netgear FA511

2003-06-04 Thread Jonathan Schmitt
Hallo,
I'm currently thinking about a replacement for my defective 3com Officeconnect 
PCMCIA Network Adapter.
I've found two cards available at local stores not using a media converter, 
the netgear FA511 and the dlink dfe 690 txd. 
As the XJack connector on the 3com card was a disappointment, I would like to 
hear some oppinion from someone actually using one of those cards (with 
linux?).
Thanks for Your help,
Jonathan

PS.: For those interested in xjack, it is some form of rj45 socket, where the 
plug has to be inserted vertically. Therefore it has to deal with some 
mechanical stress. Unfortunately (at least at my card) the connector seems 
not to be made strong enough. It is no longer working reliable, losing 
connection whenever the network cable is even touched


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Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Jürgen A. Erhard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030603 13:03]:
> To be usable with all filtering tools, such a procmail, mailagent,
> maildrop etc, we'd need a list of headers, or specific header
> contents, that various MLMs add to mails they explode.

I don't think you'll have much luck with this.  Your best bet is
probably to examine the headers for each list as you subscribe, and
create a new handler for it if necessary each time.

> Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add
> List-Id?  If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their
> respective authors?

You could try this.  I'd bet that most popular MLMs already have
wishlist bugs to support RFC2919, but if you find any that don't it's
probably a good idea to file one.

btw, I filter debian lists via X-Mailing-List: .

good times,
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mailman + postix Debian (sid)

2003-06-04 Thread Davi Leal
Is  mailman + postix  working rightly on Debian (sid)?

Regards,
Davi


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Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Mark C
Hi,

I'm posting this as a last resort, as I'm now at my wits end, after
several hrs googling and reading the man pages, I'm still no closer to
solving this mystery.

My NFS server is running stock woody (with all updates) and exporting
several shares, a few for public access and one for the /home directory
,which clients mount (ok, only me and my wife), I have decided to change
my workstation to woody (was running redhat, due to it having more
cutting edge stuff, but lets not go there), 

I have woody running perfectly, yet it takes an age to read/write any
files from my nfs server, where as redhat is (for nfs clients anyway)
blistering fast, I have tried several wsize and rsize options, but its
still very slow, I'm currently running 2.4.20 kernel 
(hoping this would help, but nope)

Heres my current mount arguments in /etc/fstab:

loki:/nfs-exports/tmp /pub/tmp nfs  
nfsvers=2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,bg  0 0

And I am running lockd and rpc.statd on the client as well

I decided to dual boot with redhat and woody, and do some comparisons, 
Copying 1.2GB of data (a single tarball) from client to server

Redhat: 15 mins
Woody: 55 mins

As I mount my home directory, its causing all programs to slow down to a
crawl, whilst they are reading or writing to the directory.

Please do not take this as a threat (and its not meant by this at all), 
I'm seriously looking at switching back to redhat, not that I want to
but from what I have read I have tried most things, as its now got to
the point of being unbearable ad causing my to do little or no work.






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Re: Dlink DFE 690 TXD vs. Netgear FA511

2003-06-04 Thread Mark C
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:28, Jonathan Schmitt wrote:
> Hallo,
> I'm currently thinking about a replacement for my defective 3com Officeconnect 
> PCMCIA Network Adapter.
> I've found two cards available at local stores not using a media converter, 
> the netgear FA511 and the dlink dfe 690 txd. 

I'm currently using the FA511 on my old, but semi trusty Compaq Presario
laptop, and this pcmcia card has given me no problems at all, and pretty
evenly priced as well, it works out of the box, (they do ship Linux
drivers AFAIK), but I have a nasty habit of putting the cd's that come
with hardware in the bin :(

yenta_socket is the name of the kernel-level PCMCIA driver it uses.

Hope this helps

Mark






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Re: Compiling 2.4.18-BF from apt-get source

2003-06-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Jesse Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030602 22:27]:
> Well, the problem is, I need the pcmcia_cs.o module for my laptop 
> NIC.  The only package that includes that is the
> pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-bf2.4 package, which, as its name implies, 
> requires the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel.
> 
> Unfortunately, the bf2.4 kernel, being an installation kernel, is 
> pretty bloated.  So I want to recompile and reinstall the package 
> 2.4.18-bf2.4, instead of recompiling both 2.4.18-bf2.4 and all 
> the modules for cs-modules.
> 
> Am I nuts for doing this?

Yes ;-)

If your purpose is to end up with a "non-bloated" kernel, you should
just download a kernel-source package (i.e. kernel-source-2.4.20 or
kernel-source-2.4.18, if you want to stick to stable) and build your
own.

Trying to save the work of recompiling the modules and instead
recompiling the kernel is a little silly, IMO.  You'd be better off
downloading a non-bf kernel (i.e. kernel-image-2.4.18-, again
sticking to stable) and the corresponding kernel-headers package and
pcmcia-source and building your own pcmcia-modules package.  That's just
the way I'd do it, anyway (if I wanted to avoid compiling a custom
kernel, that is).

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Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Mark C said on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:40:13PM +0100:
> I have woody running perfectly, yet it takes an age to read/write any
> files from my nfs server, where as redhat is (for nfs clients anyway)
> blistering fast, I have tried several wsize and rsize options, but its
> still very slow, I'm currently running 2.4.20 kernel 
> (hoping this would help, but nope)
> 
> Heres my current mount arguments in /etc/fstab:
> 
> loki:/nfs-exports/tmp /pub/tmp nfs  
> nfsvers=2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,bg  0 0
> 
> And I am running lockd and rpc.statd on the client as well
 
Are you running portmap on the client and server?

Are you sure that portmap knows about the NFS progs (what does pmap_dump tell
you?)

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Re: cdrecord: behaves as if not suid root when it is, sorta.

2003-06-04 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
When cdrecord is run suid root it will work.  However, it won't have
access to the function setpriority() listed below.  If you want to do
away with those errors, you will have to run cdrecord as root (ex: sudo
cdrecord)

- Ryan

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:39:40PM -0400, Chris Metzler wrote:
> 
> Hi.  I've used cdrecord lots of times, but I've just recently run into
> an odd problem.  When I use cdrecord as a non-root user, I get warning
> messages that are not present if I use cdrecord as root:
> 
> cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
> cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
> cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
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Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread David Z Maze
john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The modem is an external one made by (?for) Microcomputer
> Research UK Ltd, uses a serial port

It's almost certainly compatible.  (Serial modems are decades-old
technology now, and don't depend at all on what's inside the box.)
The big compatibility issue is more with internal "modem" cards that
depend on the CPU to do all of the actual DSP work, and generally only
have Windows drivers.

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Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Support
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:09, Mark Ferlatte wrote:

> Are you running portmap on the client and server?

Yes


> Are you sure that portmap knows about the NFS progs (what does pmap_dump tell
> you?)

It would seem so, as her is the output regarding on both the client and
server:

Client:
# pmap_dump
   102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
1000211   udp  32768  nlockmgr
1000213   udp  32768  nlockmgr
1000214   udp  32768  nlockmgr
1000211   tcp  32769  nlockmgr
1000213   tcp  32769  nlockmgr
1000214   tcp  32769  nlockmgr
172   udp729  ypbind
171   udp729  ypbind
172   tcp732  ypbind
171   tcp732  ypbind
3910021   tcp  32771  sgi_fam
3910022   tcp  32771  sgi_fam
1000241   udp  32772  status
1000241   tcp  32788  status 


Server:
#pmap_dump
102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
132   udp   2049  nfs
1000211   udp  32788  nlockmgr
1000213   udp  32788  nlockmgr
1000214   udp  32788  nlockmgr
151   udp  32789  mountd
151   tcp  32821  mountd
152   udp  32789  mountd
152   tcp  32821  mountd
1000241   udp  32802  status
1000241   tcp  32836  status
142   udp992  ypserv
141   udp992  ypserv
142   tcp995  ypserv
141   tcp995  ypserv
172   udp998  ypbind
171   udp998  ypbind
172   tcp   1001  ypbind
171   tcp   1001  ypbind

Yes I'm running it as a nis server as well, the only difference is that
the server is running nfs and mountd, these AFAIK are server related
only.

Mark

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About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Hi
I guess it should be nomral to format your hard disk for the 3rd time if 
you are a newbie to Debian.
The last BAD thing I have done is:
I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1) and guess what ? KDE does 
not work any more.
I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no difference.
Still I get the same error message:

"libkdefx.so.4 : undefined symbol: _ZN6QStyle6polishEP12QApplication "

So please help me before I format my drive ;-)

Thanks in advance
Hamid




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Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Support said on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:40:02PM +0100:
> Server:
> #pmap_dump
> 102   tcp111  portmapper
> 102   udp111  portmapper
> 132   udp   2049  nfs
^ ^

Just a guess: I have 4 of these entries... and I'm pretty sure that you're
supposed to have more than one kernel NFS thread on the server.  Are you using
the userspace NFS server?  That would account for the poor NFS performance.
You're also using NFS v2 instead of v3... v3 will probably help you also.

What is the RPCNFSDCOUNT in /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server?  And how many nfsds
are you running? (ps ax | grep nfsd)
 
> Yes I'm running it as a nis server as well, the only difference is that
> the server is running nfs and mountd, these AFAIK are server related
> only.

That's correct.

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can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?

2003-06-04 Thread kevin


 How do I fix this cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?
  
  Kevin


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Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Mark
doh!

sorry for the last post, I sent it from the wrong address, I was
checking the support email at the same time..

Anyway, I have done a bit more investigation, and it seems that I only
get the slowdown if I write TO the nfs server from the client,

As I copied some large binaries across to the nfs share and they took
around 30 mins, I then copied them back locally and it took 6 mins.

Am I correct in that I may have to alter the rsize? on the client end,
or is there a configuration on the server side I can do, but it would
seem very client orientated.

Mark
 

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Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Mark
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 00:01, Mark Ferlatte wrote:

> 
> Just a guess: I have 4 of these entries... and I'm pretty sure that you're
> supposed to have more than one kernel NFS thread on the server.  Are you using
> the userspace NFS server? 

How would I tell that? (sorry to sound silly)
I basically install nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server and set them, up as
pre the man pages.


>  That would account for the poor NFS performance.
> You're also using NFS v2 instead of v3... v3 will probably help you also.

Yes, I removed --no-nfs-version 3 from /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server,. 
but still slow to write to the server (read is fine)
> 
> What is the RPCNFSDCOUNT in /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server?  And how many nfsds
> are you running? (ps ax | grep nfsd)

8

Also ps -ax | grep nfsd reports: 8 threads in use

Thanks for the help :)

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Re: Local copy of mails in IMAP folder?

2003-06-04 Thread Joey Hess
Joao Pedro Clemente wrote:
> > > Joerg Johannes wrote:
> > > > I use kmail/IMAP protocol to read mails for one of my accounts. Today I
> > > > recognized that I can only read the mails when I am connected to the
> > > > net. I see the folder contents, but the message bodies are not
> > > > displayed. Is there a way to get a local copy of those mails, so that I
> > > > can read them weh I'm offline, too (and archive them on a backup CD)?
> > >
> > > offlineimap?
> > >
> > > (don't know if KMail supports Maildir, though)
> >
> > It does.  What about courier-imap ?
> 
> I didn't get it how you'ld solve the problem with courier-imap:
> Courier is a imap server. Are you suggesting to run it locally?
> And how would you fetch/synchronize from the remote server? Via IMAP
> aswell?

The program to do that is offlineimap, in the package by the same name,
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Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote:
> The last BAD thing I have done is:
> I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1) and guess what ? KDE
> does not work any more.

Maybe I'm a little confused here, but you're suprised that install
"beta" software breaks things?  I'm sorry if that sounds a bit harsh,
but if you're not ready for things to break in unknown and new ways,
stick to stable released versions of software.

> I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no difference.

Did you completely remove the 3.2beta1 installation?

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Re: Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread Brian Gonzales
Damn, I thought this was going to be a Gnome v. KDE religous war thread. :)

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 07:07 am, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> I am running Woody, and loading some packages I want from backports I've
> found on the web.
>
> It seems that installing the Gnome 2 backport removes my KDE desktop.
> I've even found a KDE 3.1 site, but the Gnome 2 install threatens to
> remove KDE without replacement.
>
> Does anyone know what the issue is here?  I'd like Gnome 2 primarily so
> I can run a working version of GnomeMeeting, and I'd just as soon keep
> KDE as my desktop.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bret


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Re: Thinkpad and Serial Port

2003-06-04 Thread Kris
Below is from the readme but I am still very new to linux. I have successfully 
recompiled my kernel but below eludes me
what does it mean when it says use make-kpkg to make a module.  Please advise



If you are using Debian, install the thinkpad-base package, then
install the thinkpad-source package and use make-kpkg to make a
thinkpad-modules- package for your kernel and install
that.  You are finished.



- Original Message - 
From: "JG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Thinkpad and Serial Port


> Hi,
>
> "Kris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have an IBM ThinkPad 600e and every once in awhile the bios will
> > reset and the serial port won't work.  Rather the IR
> > port is on and the serial port has been disabled.  I then have to load
> > up windows and use the windows utility to change
> > the IR port to disabled and the Serial Port to enabled.  Is there a
> > debian/Linux app that would allow me the same
> > functionality.  Kris
> >
>
> $ apt-cache search thinkpad
>
> brings to me
>
> thinkpad-base - Configuration files for thinkpad-modules packages
> thinkpad-source - Source code for thinkpad-modules packages
> tpctl - IBM ThinkPad hardware configuration tools
>
> you have to install thinkpad-source and compile and install the kernel
> modules (is not that difficult), and then you might be able to use the
> tpctl instead of the windows utility. Note that not all the options run
> on all thinkpads.
>
> Note also that there is a debian-laptop list, where there might be better
> informed people.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaume
>
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Re: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?

2003-06-04 Thread Chris Metzler
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:11:12 -0700
"kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  How do I fix this can't lock /var/run/crond.pid

Well, one way that you don't fix it is by sending the same question to
the list three times in less than 24 hours.  Please give people who only
read the mailing list once a day, or once every few days, a chance to
actually *see* your message first; and give other people, who've seen
it but can't answer for some reason, a break by not asking them again
and again.  I don't mean this as a flame, I promise; but you might want
to take the time to read:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

It's basically a guide to the etiquette of online tech support; it'll
help you get useful answers to your questions in the future.

As for your question, cron creates that file when it starts.  It
contains the process-ID of crond itself, in text.  This is explained
in the first few entries returned in a Google search on "crond.pid".
(hint!)

You didn't say under what circumstances you got that error message
(which is usually a good idea, btw); so I'll assume it showed up
on your console or in your syslog.  Your message typically means
that when cron started up, it tried to create that file, but was
unable to.  Usually, this is because the file is already present:
either cron is already running (with the process ID contained in
that file); or cron didn't clean up after itself the last time it
quit, and left that file behind for some odd reason.  If the former,
there's nothing to fix; you're getting the error message because
you're trying to run a second instance of cron, which you don't want
to do anyway.  If the latter, you should be able to just remove it
by hand.  All such files are cleaned out of /var/run automatically
during the boot process anyway.

-c

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Re: Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Brian Gonzales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030604 02:08]:

> Damn, I thought this was going to be a Gnome v. KDE religous war thread. :)
Why don't you start one? ;)

Sincerely
  Alexander


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odd `ps` behavior

2003-06-04 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Whenever one of the basic utilities behaves weirdly, I worry I may have
been hacked, but this is on a 2-day old Debian install:

~$ ps
{module_list} {module_list_R__ver_module_list}
Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.20-compact does not match kernel data.

I've made no kernel changes on that system.  Any idea what might be up?

Patrick


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Re: Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 16:07, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> I am running Woody, and loading some packages I want from backports I've
> found on the web.
>
> It seems that installing the Gnome 2 backport removes my KDE desktop.
> I've even found a KDE 3.1 site, but the Gnome 2 install threatens to
> remove KDE without replacement.
>
> Does anyone know what the issue is here?  I'd like Gnome 2 primarily so
> I can run a working version of GnomeMeeting, and I'd just as soon keep
> KDE as my desktop.

I had many problems like this, but since I've put the official kde release in 
sources.list almost everything is ok. here are the relevant entries:

#- KDE 3.1 from kde.org -#
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian stable main
deb-src http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian stable main

#- Gnome 2.2 -#
deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/
deb-src http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/

#- XFree86 4.2.x -#
deb http://people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian woody xfree

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Re: PPPOE / ADSL fails

2003-06-04 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 22:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What package contains 'adsl-start'? I couldn't find it...
I think it's part of the pppoe or pptp source (not the debian package. I don't 
know why but it was taken out). just google for it.

Bye

>
> I too can't connect with my new PPPoE/DSL setup.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 04 Apr 2003 12:04:18 -0500
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian P. Flaherty) wrote:
>
> Both of you should try adsl-start as an alternative.  I had been using
> pppd at boot-time to get my DSL connection up and it has worked for
> months.  However, about a week ago, it stopped working.  I fought with
> it for a while.  Just to see what happened, I tried adsl-start and it
> worked immediately.  I have not had time to figure out why this is,
> but it worked for me.  I have been using that for the past week or so,
> until I can figure out why.
>
> Thanks for that. I'll give it a try.
>
>
> By the way, I haven't been able to access news.verizon.net either
> since this happened.  It doesn't respond to ping or anything.  I also
> cannot ping it from other machines, so it seems down to me.  But it
> seems strange that this occurred with the other change.  HTH.
>
>
>
> That's weird. I waited to send you that server name until I had connected
> to it and updated my list of newsgroups.
>
> Today I can't ping either news servers.
>
> FWIW, Verizon's mail servers have been like yo-yo's the past few days -- up
> and down.

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python weaver error

2003-06-04 Thread Alfredo Valles
Hi people.

I tried to install de weaver module for python from www.scipy.org.
With this module you can execute c++ code in python at c speed.

Anyway, it didn't work in my debian unstable.

Is someone with experience with this module around?

Alfredo


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Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Hector
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:47:12PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:55:33PM -0400, Kevin McKinley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > Actually the term for 1024^3 bytes is mebibyte, and 1024 of them is a
> > gibibyte:
> > 
> > http://kerneltrap.com/node.php?id=340&PHPSESSID=cc5d94e5ff669af1a325ba1d5196c985
> 
> 
> Or perhaps more authoritatively:
> 
> http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
> 
> See also:
> 
> http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SiPrefixesForBinaryMultiples

Except that as the nist site points out, it's not an SI standard.

Richard


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Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 14:11, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> Is there a way to boot into a "safe-mode" instead of having xdm start? I
> didn't configure it properly. When it starts up I get a totally useless
> screen of junk. I need a way to boot the computer to the prompt instead of
> having xdm start. Is it possible?
There are different runlevels:
6 is reboot
5 is run X and networking
3 is run networking
2 is single user mode
so:
linux 3
is what I would say. Then you can type 'startx' 
are you using:
/usr/sbin/mkxf86config
/usr/X11R6/bin/xf86cfg
/usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config
/usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config-v3
-Kev
> 
> I tried running my install CD with "rescue" instead of install, but it
> boots and uses xdm, which does'nt help me.
> 
> thanks!
> 
> emma
> 
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Re: ergonomic laptop keyboard?

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 13:08, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> 
> I would love to see a normal laptop,
never in a million years. its form factor doesnt allow it.
>  but with a keyboard
> whose two halves could pop up in the middle, and then rotate inwards
> to whatever degree the user wanted, kind of like [1], except built
> into a laptop, and without the numerical keypad, obviously.
I guess you mean those 'natural' keyboards.
> 
> does such a thing exist?  if not, could i build one myself somehow?
> how can i get whoever makes laptops to design one?  could i patent it?
> (heh heh ...)  whatever; i just want a laptop that I can type on ...
> 
> any tips would be appreciated.
> 
> 
So your only choice would be an external keyboard. Natural?  Maybe a
wireless keyboard?
I recall in college putting the keyboard on my knees most of the time.
-K
> 
> [1] http://www.maenad.net/geek/split_keyboard.jpg
> 
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> /V\  http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nori/jnl/
>// \\  @ maenad.net
>   /(   )\   www.maenad.net
>^`~'^
> get my (*new*) key here:
>http://www.maenad.net/geek/gpg/7ede5499.asc
>   (please *remove* old key 11e031f1!)
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Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi,
I was parsing my last 4000 emails and these were some headers with the
word 'list':
  1 X-List-Processor
  1 X-sparklist-type
  2 X-List-Unsubscribe
  2 X-Mailinglist
  4 list-help
  4 list-post
  4 list-unsubscribe
  7 X-List-Administrivia
 15 Mailing-List
581 List-Software
582 List-Owner
   1504 List
   2803 List-Archive
   2970 X-Mailing-List
   3391 List-Id
   5777 List-Subscribe
   6356 List-Post
   6358 List-Help
   6436 List-Unsubscribe
-K
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 17:35, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Jürgen A. Erhard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030603 13:03]:
> > To be usable with all filtering tools, such a procmail, mailagent,
> > maildrop etc, we'd need a list of headers, or specific header
> > contents, that various MLMs add to mails they explode.
> 
> I don't think you'll have much luck with this.  Your best bet is
> probably to examine the headers for each list as you subscribe, and
> create a new handler for it if necessary each time.
> 
> > Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add
> > List-Id?  If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their
> > respective authors?
> 
> You could try this.  I'd bet that most popular MLMs already have
> wishlist bugs to support RFC2919, but if you find any that don't it's
> probably a good idea to file one.
> 
> btw, I filter debian lists via X-Mailing-List: .
> 
> good times,
> Vineet
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Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:56:58 +0100
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Actually the term for 1024^3 bytes is mebibyte, and 1024 of them is a
> > gibibyte:
> 
> Gibidigibidibigigidigibigidibigidibibigibi
> 
> Human language isn't amenable to standardisation. In common usage,
> kilo, mega etc. in the computer context refer to the power of 2 which
> is closest to the power of 10 to which they refer in decimal contexts.
> So a megabyte *is* 1048576 bytes, etc, and I don't think this usage is
> particularly likely to change.

I didn't say I liked it, I just pointed out the "correct" usage.

Kevin


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Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Am I supposed to remove all files and links manually, 'cos Qt does not 
have any make unintsall or make remove ?

Thanks
Hamid
Jamin W. Collins wrote:

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote:
 

The last BAD thing I have done is:
I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1) and guess what ? KDE
does not work any more.
   

Maybe I'm a little confused here, but you're suprised that install
"beta" software breaks things?  I'm sorry if that sounds a bit harsh,
but if you're not ready for things to break in unknown and new ways,
stick to stable released versions of software.
 

I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no difference.
   

Did you completely remove the 3.2beta1 installation?

 





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Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Hi
I am using ICE Windoe Manager and I am not very happy with it.
What is the default window manager for Gnome2.2 ?
Thanks
Hamid
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Re: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?

2003-06-04 Thread Bill Marcum
On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 01:30:16 +0200, kevin 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>  How do I fix this cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?
>   
Does the file /var/run/crond.pid exist?  Can you, as root, create files in
/var/run?  Is it possible that /var is out of space or is not mounted (if you
have a separate /var partition)?

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Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:39:06PM -0400, Hamid wrote:
> Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote:
> >
> > > I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no
> > > difference.
> >
> > Did you completely remove the 3.2beta1 installation?
>
> Am I supposed to remove all files and links manually, 'cos Qt does not
> have any make unintsall or make remove ?

If necessary, yes.  Such are the joys of, IMHO, incomplete makefiles
(since they don't provide for an uninstall) and the risks of beta
software.  If you haven't done this, then it is likely that the 3.2beta1
files are still in your library paths and are conflicting with your
stable libraries.  Thus, your removal and reinstallation of the other
software was useless.

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Re: Sending messages to tty1 after xdm exits

2003-06-04 Thread Bill Marcum
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:50:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using xdm for logging in to my laptop.  I wanted to be able to 
> shutdown so I added buttons to the xdm logging screen[1].
> 
> When the shutdown button is clicked this command is run:
> 
>   exec /sbin/shutdown -h now 2>/dev/console >/dev/console
> 
> The "problem" is that X shuts down and I see my original tty1 screen 
> (with the left-over startup messages).  But the normal shutdown messages 
> are *not* displayed.  I'd like to see those messages.
> 
> xdm normally starts xconsole via /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup so I disabled that 
> in case that was redirecting console messages, which then meant 
> /dev/console was not where it used to be).
> 
> I also tried just running shutdown without redirecting to /dev/console, 
> but that didn't do the trick, either.
> 
Try redirecting to /dev/tty1 ?


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ASUS P4B533

2003-06-04 Thread Bleckie



Hello to all,
 
I do have a hardware issue: I would like to use the ASUS 
P4B533 including the 5.25 " IPanel Multimedia front module extension under 
Debian. Does anybody have experience on how to setup and configure this 
module?
 
 
I appreciate your comprehensive answer very 
much!
 
Regards,
 
Bleckie


Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debianinstallation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:03, Hamid wrote:
> Hi
> I guess it should be nomral to format your hard disk for the 3rd time if 
> you are a newbie to Debian.
> The last BAD thing I have done is:
> I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1) and guess what ? KDE does 
> not work any more.
> I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no difference.
> Still I get the same error message:
> 
> "libkdefx.so.4 : undefined symbol: _ZN6QStyle6polishEP12QApplication "
> 
on my system this is supplied by:
kdelibs4
Do you have:
kdelibs kdelibs3 kdelibs4
installed?
-K 

> So please help me before I format my drive ;-)
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Hamid
> 
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Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Yes I do, I have to do some manual removals :(

Kevin Mark wrote:

On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:03, Hamid wrote:
 

Hi
I guess it should be nomral to format your hard disk for the 3rd time if 
you are a newbie to Debian.
The last BAD thing I have done is:
I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1) and guess what ? KDE does 
not work any more.
I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no difference.
Still I get the same error message:

"libkdefx.so.4 : undefined symbol: _ZN6QStyle6polishEP12QApplication "

   

on my system this is supplied by:
kdelibs4
Do you have:
kdelibs kdelibs3 kdelibs4
installed?
-K 

 

So please help me before I format my drive ;-)

Thanks in advance
Hamid
   





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Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 04:04:47PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> Pigeon wrote:
> > Don't forget Ctrl-Alt-F[1..6] to get from your garbled X screen to a
> > console.
> 
> Tried that, no dice. So i re-installed. I'm so impatient, eh?

Ack, my apologies - I should have mentioned that there's a shell
option on the install disk from which you could have disabled your xdm
login. Go as if to install; on the screen with the scrollable menu
that the installation process walks you through, scroll down the menu
and somewhere near the bottom you'll find "Execute a Shell". So you
just go straight to that without doing any installing, and you can
then mount your HDs by hand and edit the init scripts or whatever.

Bit late now, but might come in useful in future.

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Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Thanks, I have to give it a try

Jamin W. Collins wrote:

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:39:06PM -0400, Hamid wrote:
 

Jamin W. Collins wrote:
   

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote:

 

I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no
difference.
   

Did you completely remove the 3.2beta1 installation?
 

Am I supposed to remove all files and links manually, 'cos Qt does not
have any make unintsall or make remove ?
   

If necessary, yes.  Such are the joys of, IMHO, incomplete makefiles
(since they don't provide for an uninstall) and the risks of beta
software.  If you haven't done this, then it is likely that the 3.2beta1
files are still in your library paths and are conflicting with your
stable libraries.  Thus, your removal and reinstallation of the other
software was useless.
 





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