Re: MOUSE won't function
OK for everybody - I was *still* not sure about the mouse so I asked my dad who has all the hardware info (he did the buying so he has the info :-S) The mouse is a Logitech MouseMan(r) Wheel, 3 buttons with wheel USB I hope this will make things clear! --- Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > During the installation I entered the following > data > > about the mouse: > > > > Driver: mousedev (this one should have been > loaded) > > Device: /dev/mice/input > > For USB that should be /dev/input/mice and not the > other way around. > > > Most people with standard mice should use > /dev/psaux. > > For PS/2 mice. But USB mice use /dev/input/mice. > > Bob > Thanks I changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to use /dev/input/mice again. > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:46:34PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > But anyways, started out on Slackware in... Hmm. I remember 1.2.x kernels > more than the actual version. Something like version 3.0, which puts > it in 1996? I started getting interested in Linux when my buddy Tabor was going on about how damn cool Debian 1.3.1 (bo) was. I started with hamm, which shipped with Linux 2.0.36 and remember the hype for 2.4 starting *right after* 2.2 came out. I think it was PC Magazine ran a cover article extolling the virtues and hyping 2.4 heavily before 2.3 opened up. I think this started the whole, "When's 2.4 gonna come out" bitching weeks after 2.2 came out. It got old. Bitching about when 2.2 was coming out was acceptable before it happened, mostly because when 2.2 was supposed to take over, 2.0.37 and then .38 came out. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg24585/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
Hi everybody, I've just found cdroms won't mount - and the "zip" drives don't work either. These are the drives, according to the kern.log : hda: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK Drive hdb: Maxtor 2F040J0, ATA DISK Drive hdc: CRD-8482B, ATAPI CDROM drive hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive hda: the first hard disk - which is in use by windows hdb: the second hard disk - which is where Debian Linux lives hdc: the cdrom drive hdd: ? this should be the zip drive I don't know how to get them mounted; I included the /etc/fstab file maybe something is wrong Thanks in advance, Joris Huizer __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com fstab Description: fstab
Re: MOUSE won't function
Joris Huizer wrote: OK for everybody - I was *still* not sure about the mouse so I asked my dad who has all the hardware info (he did the buying so he has the info :-S) The mouse is a Logitech MouseMan(r) Wheel, 3 buttons with wheel USB I hope this will make things clear! --- Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html Follow this link. I used all the info listed here to set up my usb Logitech scroll mouse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
Hi, On Friday 17 January 2003 01:19 am, Joris Huizer wrote: > I've just found cdroms won't mount - and the "zip" > drives don't work either. What exactly happens when you try to mount them? > These are the drives, according to the kern.log : > > hda: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK Drive > hdb: Maxtor 2F040J0, ATA DISK Drive > hdc: CRD-8482B, ATAPI CDROM drive > hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive In your fstab you have /dev/cdrom listed instead of /dev/hdc, is cdrom a symlink to hdc? I don't know why the zip drive doesn't work... please be a little more specific about what happens when you try to mount Cam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
"Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. To some extent it goes with the OS. Maybe a liking for the Under-the-bonnet approach goes with a certain kind of personality? Certainly in the bad onld days of Winders 95, it was _easier_ to use Linux than to be constantly facing the "blue screen of death". I'm told that things are better there now, but having got accustomed to this way of working, I see no reason to change. Glyn -- Debian Home http://www.debian.org Debian Planet http://www.debianplanet.org/ For the children http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/ In a hurry??? http://qref.sourceforge.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi! I´m a new user of Linux. I don´t know program it. I´ve a LCDPC with SIS M650. How could I work with Debian? Could I work with my LCDPC? Is it possible to see Linux with SIS M650? Thank you so much for your investigation.
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: > "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers > > Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! And I was a Dutch Reformed minister for 22 years using Linux on my desktop for the last 5 years of that 22. After my church could not afford a minister any longer I had to look for something different and now I am a system administrator. Regards. Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be." Revelation 22:12 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MOUSE won't function
--- Nick Lidakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joris Huizer wrote: > > >OK for everybody - I was *still* not sure about the > >mouse so I asked my dad who has all the hardware > info > >(he did the buying so he has the info :-S) > > > >The mouse is a Logitech MouseMan(r) Wheel, 3 > buttons > >with wheel USB > > > > > http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html > > Follow this link. I used all the info listed here to > set up my usb > Logitech scroll mouse. > > :-( I tried and followed the instructions - but it doesn't make a difference - maybe I forgot something or misunderstood but I really have no idea what that would be - the only diff is I had /dev/input/mice allready; I changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and I have used gpm, and set settings to the logitech mouse; Any idea what's wrong ? Thanks in advance __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
Joris Huizer wrote: I don't know how to get them mounted; I included the /etc/fstab file maybe something is wrong Your fstab file should contain: /dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 for the cdrom drive. Make sure that: -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: append=" hdc=ide-scsi") - /cdrom is an existing directory -There's a cdrom in the drive :=) /dev/hdb4 /zip auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 for the zip drive. Make sure that: -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: append=" hdd=ide-scsi") - /zip is an existing directory -There's a filesystem on the zip disk. Note that your mount points (/cdrom, /zip) might be different. Zip disks are usually partitioned (don't know why) so that there is one partition (number 4) with all space assigned. Any output from command would help. hth, /johan Thanks in advance, Joris Huizer -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Windows? No... I don't think so." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
--- Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 17 January 2003 01:19 am, Joris Huizer > wrote: > > I've just found cdroms won't mount - and the "zip" > > drives don't work either. > > What exactly happens when you try to mount them? > > > These are the drives, according to the kern.log : > > > > hda: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK Drive > > hdb: Maxtor 2F040J0, ATA DISK Drive > > hdc: CRD-8482B, ATAPI CDROM drive > > hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive > > In your fstab you have /dev/cdrom listed instead of > /dev/hdc, is cdrom a > symlink to hdc? I don't know why the zip drive > doesn't work... please be a > little more specific about what happens when you try > to mount > > Cam > Changin /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdc solved the prob for cdroms ! :-) When I say mount /zip I get the the message mount: mount point /zip does not exist Maybe it's important to know I added the line of /dev/hdd to get it to mount myself - debian didn't add it automatically so I thought I had to add myself - maybe I have to edit more ? Thanks in advance! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qpopper timeout and automount expiration
Hi
I'm having a strange problem in one of my customers mail servers. the
mail server (woody, qpopper) is part of a NIS and gives pop3 services.
the home directories are mounted through automount from Network
Appliance machine. at the moment it's being tested by a few users
(client is outlook) and I'm experiencing some strange problem.
every once in a while (it differs from one user to another) they get a
timeout connecting to the pop server. in the mail server's syslog there
is an entry:
"Jan 16 06:31:42 mail in.qpopper[25914]: lior at lior (192.168.150.16):
-ERR POP timeout from mail.wintegra.co.il [popper.c:817]"
this happens for one user every hour for another 3 times a day and for
some it never happens.
I've noticed that in all cases (with the exception of 3 times) 3-4
minutes after the timeout error there is an "autofs expiration" entry:
Jan 16 06:34:54 mail automount[25947]: running expiration on path
/users/lior
Jan 16 06:34:54 mail automount[25947]: expired /users/lior
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[335]: attempting to mount entry
/users/lior
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: lookup(yp): looking up lior
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: lookup(yp): lior ->
winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: parse(sun): expanded entry:
winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: parse(sun):
dequote("winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior") ->
winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: parse(sun): core of entry:
options=nobrowse, loc=winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: parse(sun): mounting root /users,
mountpoint lior/, what winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior, fstype nfs
, options nobrowse
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: mount(nfs): root=/users
name=lior/ what=winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior, fstype=nfs,
options=nobrow
se
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: mount(nfs): calling mkdir_path
/users/lior/
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: mount(nfs): calling mount -t nfs
-s -o nobrowse winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior /users/lior/
Jan 16 06:39:42 mail automount[25983]: mount(nfs): mounted
winfiler:/vol/vol0/users/lior on /users/lior/
I'm not sure if it's connected but it's strange that it happens almost
every time.
Anyone has any ideas?
thanx
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Multiple dhcp client interfaces
Howdy! Has anyone tackled this problem: Two NICs on a computer get their addresses (and nameservers, routers and so on) by dhcp. This causes two problems: 1. The dhclient pid file only shows the pid of the last instance of dhclient. Consequently, doing ifdown -a always leaves one dhclient running, and it's interface still up. 2. The interface which is started later, doesn't get a route to a gateway (the same for both NICs). Both should be available for outbound traffic at the same time. 'route' output: 80.186.64.0 * 255.255.240.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 80.186.64.0 * 255.255.240.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 default ua1d64.elisa.om 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 If anyone's got an idea of how to solve this in a clean way, I'd be happy to hear. Otherwise I'll just script something funny to do the job. /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Windows? No... I don't think so." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squirrelmail users can't login after 1.3.2 update
I am also having trouble with squirrelmail under Debian. As a new user, I am puzzled about what happens when stable contains a broken package. Since the package doesn't seem to work, will a bug fix be released into security.debian.org or do we have to wait until 3.0.0r2? Steve On Thursday 16 January 2003 06:16, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:56:24 +0100 > > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you read the second message to that bug? > > Actually, no, I hadn't. My apologies. Odd considering that I > submitted the original bug. I've not gotten any updates to that bug in my > mailbox so I had falsely presumed there had been none. > > > Commenting that line doesn't do it for me. Leaving that line in > > produces empty pages. > > Ok. Have you tried isntalling 1.4.0rc1 and throwing away your > config.php? After 1.4.0rc1 was packaged up conf.pl has a complaint that the > 1.2.0 config.php may not be completely compatible. It will still load and > modify it but it will complain every time that you load it up. I copied > the config.php aside to refer to and created a new one from scractch with > conf.pl. Squirrelmail worked from that point on. Well, aside from the fact > that it doesn't recognize any of the themes. This prevents the users from > choosing a theme but they are able to log in. > > I'm sorry if this has been gone over already. I just joined the list a > day or so ago and didn't see the beginning of this thread. Just trying to > help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem setting up a local network
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:14, Tommaso Moroni wrote: > Hugh Saunders wrote: > > "a" is 192.168.1.2 which is on another subnet to "B" which appears to be > > on 192.168.100.1 ?? > > is B's IPaddr 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.100.1?? > > That's a difficult question, because actually I've never understood what > happens with the ADSL drivers I use! > Anyway, when I connect to internet with B I get a ppp0 interface (the > ADSL modem is USB so no ethernet interfaces used) and the routing table > setted up as I wrote. Actually I don't know where 192.168.100.1 IPaddr, > I only know that it appears also when I do "ifconfig": > > > loLink encap:Local Loopback >inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 >UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 >RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >TX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 >RX bytes:948 (948.0 b) TX bytes:948 (948.0 b) > > ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol >inet addr:80.116.138.85 P-t-P:192.168.100.1 > Mask:255.255.255.255 >UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 >RX packets:7 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 >RX bytes:417 (417.0 b) TX bytes:180 (180.0 b) > > > The 192.168.1.1 IPaddr should be the address of B in the local network > I'd like to install. > > I hope to have been clearer! If ppp0 is used to connect to the ADSL modem, where is the eth0 used to connect to B? Can you attach /etc/network/interfaces, and the output from lspci and lsmod? (Presuming that your ethernet driver is in a module, and not built-in.) -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | || | "Basically, I got on the plane with a bomb. Basically, I | | tried to ignite it. Basically, yeah, I intended to damage | | the plane." | |RICHARD REID, who tried to blow up American Airlines| | Flight 63 | ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
80 80 80 80 80 80 ... after new install reboot with SCSI
Hi,
can someone please guide me?! I have a new install with SCSI.
"Fist stage" install goes fine. Linux finds my two SCSI devices
and I make my partitions. Store LILO at /dev/sda.
I make the root partition bootable. Install tells me to reboot
to the continue the install.
I do that ("Second stage").
What I then get is "LILO" promt cut off to "LI" or "L" and then
it starts printing "80" in an endless cycle.
What can I do? Do I have an error in lilo.conf?
I'm new to SCSI. Should I have given any parameters or added
any specific modules?
Yours
Emil
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Re: MOUSE won't function
--- Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Nick Lidakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joris Huizer wrote: > > > > >OK for everybody - I was *still* not sure about > the > > >mouse so I asked my dad who has all the hardware > > info > > >(he did the buying so he has the info :-S) > > > > > >The mouse is a Logitech MouseMan(r) Wheel, 3 > > buttons > > >with wheel USB > > > > > > > > > http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html > > > > Follow this link. I used all the info listed here > to > > set up my usb > > Logitech scroll mouse. > > > > > > :-( I tried and followed the instructions - but it > doesn't make a difference - maybe I forgot something > or misunderstood but I really have no idea what > that > would be - the only diff is I had /dev/input/mice > allready; I changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file > and > I have used gpm, and set settings to the logitech > mouse; Any idea what's wrong ? > > Thanks in advance I checked now - the kern.log still reports the 2nd USB device is not claimed by any active device ( ??? ) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
--- Johan Ehnberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joris Huizer wrote: > > I don't know how to get them mounted; I included > the > > /etc/fstab file maybe something is wrong > > Your fstab file should contain: > > /dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > for the cdrom drive. Make sure that: > -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: > append=" hdc=ide-scsi") > - /cdrom is an existing directory > -There's a cdrom in the drive :=) > > > /dev/hdb4 /zipautorw,user,noauto 0 0 > > for the zip drive. Make sure that: > -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: > append=" hdd=ide-scsi") > - /zip is an existing directory > -There's a filesystem on the zip disk. > > > Note that your mount points (/cdrom, /zip) might be > different. > Zip disks are usually partitioned (don't know why) > so that there is one > partition (number 4) with all space assigned. > > Any output from command would help. > > hth, > /johan > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Joris Huizer > > > > > > -- > Johan Ehnberg > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Windows? No... I don't think so." > > > -- Cool that did it - I only had to edit on the line and add the folder - hehe these days it feels like every gets hard - thank you for helping :-) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
x keeps throwing getmodeline
hello all i typically keep x running but work mostly in console. every now and then x keeps throwing lines saying getmodeline something something on pressing control l these messages disappear. is there a way to suppress it? lastly, when i start screen, i cant start x. how to enable it? tia -- regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** "Plaese porrf raed." -- Prof. Michael O'Longhlin, S.U.N.Y. Purchase -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 80 80 80 80 80 80 ... after new install reboot with SCSI
Emil Hägerlund wrote:
Hi,
can someone please guide me?! I have a new install with SCSI.
"Fist stage" install goes fine. Linux finds my two SCSI devices
and I make my partitions. Store LILO at /dev/sda.
I make the root partition bootable. Install tells me to reboot
to the continue the install.
I do that ("Second stage").
What I then get is "LILO" promt cut off to "LI" or "L" and then
it starts printing "80" in an endless cycle.
What can I do? Do I have an error in lilo.conf?
I'm new to SCSI. Should I have given any parameters or added
any specific modules?
Yours
Emil
You might have to use the global 'linear' option in /etc/lilo.conf.
hth,
/johan
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package's version
Hello, when launching "apt-get remove -s ipchains", I get the list of packages it proposes to remove, and then detailed information about them. For example, I get the line: Remv gpppon (0.2-3 Debian:testing, Debian:3.0r1a/stable) As in my /etc/apt/sources.list there is _no_ reference to testing, only to woody, I do not understand why there is the word "testing" in the above message. Can anybody explain the meaning of it ? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
I'm a newbie and seem to be hooked on Linux I had exactly the same question come up last night on my newly installed system. My question is: how come is this all so complicated? When I shove a Knoppix CD into my system it mounts almost everything (except the zip drive) automatically. I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a newly installed system to list all data devices it finds and ask me whether I want to mount them. Or not?? BTW try to find the line "/dev/hdb4 /zipautorw,user,noauto 0 0" which I need to mount my zip drive in the documentation. I couldn't find it in the instalation manual, or was I looking in the wrong places? But I'm learning... Christof Dr.-Ing. Christof Hurschler (Ph.D.) Labor fur Biomechanik und Experimentelle Orthopadie Orthopadische Klinik der MHH Anna-von-Borries-Str. 1-7 D-30625 Hannover +49-0511-5354-647 Voice +49-0511-5354-343 Fax +49-172-5946-909 Mobile mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Ursprungliche Nachricht- > Von: Johan Ehnberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Januar 2003 10:34 > An: Joris Huizer > Cc: debian user > Betreff: Re: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount > > > Joris Huizer wrote: > > I don't know how to get them mounted; I included the > > /etc/fstab file maybe something is wrong > > Your fstab file should contain: > > /dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > for the cdrom drive. Make sure that: > -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: append=" hdc=ide-scsi") > - /cdrom is an existing directory > -There's a cdrom in the drive :=) > > > /dev/hdb4 /zipautorw,user,noauto 0 0 > > for the zip drive. Make sure that: > -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: append=" hdd=ide-scsi") > - /zip is an existing directory > -There's a filesystem on the zip disk. > > > Note that your mount points (/cdrom, /zip) might be different. > Zip disks are usually partitioned (don't know why) so that > there is one > partition (number 4) with all space assigned. > > Any output from command would help. > > hth, > /johan > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Joris Huizer > > > > > > -- > Johan Ehnberg > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Windows? No... I don't think so." > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
probing memorex-telex display -- LOCKUP!
i'm still hoping to find a way to boost my display -- and `get-edid` really BORKS my system, down to its toes. ouch! i'm still trying to get enough pixels displayed on my monitor so that if i decide to start up mozilla, i can see the entire window. :) 800x600 (that's all i've got) doesn't seem to be in the X-app designer's lexicon! alas... and googling for "memorex telex cds-4583" (manufactured in july 1993) doesn't come up with much that's helpful. (nor does browsing at memorex-telex.com.) Rob Weir wrote: > Install 'discover', 'mdetect' and 'read-edid' before X and debconf will > be able to autodetct most things for your X config. This is noted in > both the xserver-xfree86 Suggests:, and the install documentation. i tried "get-edid" from the "read-edid" package and this shows up* on screen -- right before the BIG HAIRY LOCKUP: > # get-edid get-edid: get-edid version 1.4.1 Performing real mode VBE call Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f00 bx=0x0 cx=0x0 Function supported Call successful VBE version 200 VBE string at 0xc7659 "Matrox Graphics Inc." VBE/DDC service about to be called Report DDC capabilities Performing real mode VBE call Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x0 cx=0x0 Function supported Call successful Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC2 transfers 0 seconds per 128 byte EDID block transfer Screen is not blanked during DDC transfer Reading next EDID block VBE/DDC service about to be called Read EDID Performing real mode VBE call Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x1 cx=0x0 Function supported Call failed The EDID data should not be trusted as the VBE call failed EDID claims 255 more blocks left EDID blocks left is wrong. Your EDID is probably invalid. < *i say "shows up" because i did saw something like it flash by briefly before my screen went whole-hog dead -- i can run it from a remote ssh session and i can see (and cut and paste) the whole thing. (this is generated on stderr, of course); i try piping get- into parse- like so # get-edid | parse-edid > edid.out and it yields very suspicious stuff: > # EDID version 255 revision 255 Section "Monitor" Identifier "___:" VendorName "___" ModelName "___:" # DPMS capabilities: Active off:yes Suspend:yes Standby:yes Mode"4095x4095" # vfreq 9.770Hz, hfreq 80.018kHz DotClock655.35 HTimings4095 4350 4605 8190 VTimings4095 4158 4221 8190 Flags "Interlace" "+HSync" "+VSync" EndMode Mode"4095x4095" # vfreq 9.770Hz, hfreq 80.018kHz DotClock655.35 HTimings4095 4350 4605 8190 VTimings4095 4158 4221 8190 Flags "Interlace" "+HSync" "+VSync" EndMode Mode"4095x4095" # vfreq 9.770Hz, hfreq 80.018kHz DotClock655.35 HTimings4095 4350 4605 8190 VTimings4095 4158 4221 8190 Flags "Interlace" "+HSync" "+VSync" EndMode Mode"4095x4095" # vfreq 9.770Hz, hfreq 80.018kHz DotClock655.35 HTimings4095 4350 4605 8190 VTimings4095 4158 4221 8190 Flags "Interlace" "+HSync" "+VSync" EndMode EndSection < not bloody likely! this most aggravating thing is that IT BORKS MY SYSTEM, including locking up the monitor (all x displays gone, sometimes i get a blinking text/console cursor at top left, sometimes not) and my keyboard (typing "reset" or "ctl-alt-backspace" or "ctl-alt-del" do nothing)... i can generate new ssh sessions and do an orderly shutdown, but killing various processes (such as X) do no good. reboot seemed the only salve to put on the wound. much frown, here. # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 5 model : 7 model name : AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions stepping: 0 cpu MHz : 267.276 cache size : 64 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no sep_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 10 mmx bogomips: 532.48 any ideas how i can probe my hardware without killing may hardware? (the aforementioned 'mdetect' is for mice, and i've got no troubles there; also 'discover' as mentioned above make
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote:
> I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is
> why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking
> all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so
> long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these
> levels that all of you are at?
Yeah, the later -- a hobby ...
For me, it first began when a good friend of mine introduced me to
LaTeX and installed a version for DOS onto my computer. Back then,
it's been some years now, I used to consider my simple documents as
"real programs" and wanted to try it all out! 8-) So I got Linux
and started scripting, ending up with Perl. That used to be my
biggest wish -- besides, of course, publishing my first book of poetry!
Well, I've achieved both and have to start thinking about writing a
new one soon. Just that my scripting gets in the way sometimes. It's
a funny mixture, that. Seems like my alter-ego is a hacker!
I'm a student of comparative literature and literature stays
my priority.
andrej
NB: Have you noticed how good such a thread feels (since we've
had one before), turning hackers into people?
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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
andrej hocevar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>cc: Subject: Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related 01/17/03 careers/schooling? 11:40 AM On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > levels that all of you are at? Just a hobby for me too, I'm Virologist by day. I'm not even into bioinformatics in a *huge* way.. But, by night I hack away at my code tying to make things more elegant with my various programming projects. Been mucking about with computers since my ZX81! Cheers, Kevin The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)1980 612100. Please also destroy or delete the message from your computer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 04:14, Johann Spies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: > > "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers > > > > Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! > > And I was a Dutch Reformed minister for 22 years using Linux on my > desktop for the last 5 years of that 22. After my church could not > afford a minister any longer I had to look for something different and > now I am a system administrator. > > Regards. > Johann > -- > Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 > Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch > > "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, > to give every man according as his work shall be." >Revelation 22:12 Ah, but when you wire the pulpit for a laptop and remove the paper Bible and set up a Karaoke system for the hymn texts, you *might* be *too* interested in the technology ;) -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
On 16/01/03 Lloyd Zusman did speaketh: > So to me, the differences between Windows and Linux fall into three > categories: > > 1. Quality -- Unix and its descendants such as Linux are robust, > 2. Religion -- Many people in the Linux world (me included) are > 3. Fun -- For a programmer, working under Unix tends to be I'd have to say that those are the main reasons why I use it. My degrees are in Physics and Computer Science. I've loved computers ever since my Dad brought home a 286 with a massive 20Meg harddrive, running at a blistering 12MHz, with a CGA monitor running DOS. He told me what not to do with it, and within a week I knew it far better than he did. I suffered with windows 95 for long enough to know that software just didn't have to be so crappy. At University I was introduced to Unix in the form of Solaris boxes in our lab, and I loved it. When I ended up on an internship with a major Telecommunications Co., working in a Unix development environment full time, I finally decided to put RedHat 5.1 on my PC. After ignoring the moron at Future Shop who told me that you couldn't dual boot a PC, I dual booted it just fine between Linux and '95. It didn't take long before I was using the Linux partition more and more. I work mostly in Perl, writing system and web-based code, so I'm mostly Unix agnostic, but I prefer Linux. Even the proprietary Unixes have lagged too far behind, and I constantly found myself building open-source software on them just to have a comfortable environment. I work strictly on Linux now, which is a dream come true. I converted to Debian a while back because I found RedHat far too sloppy, and Debian had a reputation of being the best. It hasn't failed in that, even if there are many elements of it that require a major overhaul. My wife is a programmer as well, and while she's not quite the hacker that I am, she's become very happy with Debian, which she finally tried after cursing at her NT box and looking at my Linux box happily humming along with 3 digit uptimes. She won't even use RedHat now if offered, because she says she can't live without apt-get. I agree. Debian and it's policies have an integrity to them, an attention to detail and workmanship that is so lacking everywhere else in the world today, where everything we use was made in some sweat-shop by children in a third-world country. Most companies don't seem to care about quality anymore. I'm proud to advocate Linux, and especially Debian, as an example of what a product should be, and of what all products could be if people cared enough about doing a good job. I tried some of the latest windows offerings a little while ago, just to make sure that I was still making the right decision, as if reading /. wasn't enough to convince me of the morality of the choice to fight M$. Within two days I'd downloaded every ported *nix app I could find, and practically turned it into Unix because the native tools on winblows suck that badly. I'm quite happy to just use Unix, which, while it may have improvements to make on ease of learning, 3rd party support, standards for the desktop, etc., is at least a solid foundation to build upon. To all those hackers out there working on Linux, I say thank you. Please continue to add to it, as I strive to myself. Just don't subtract. As long as I can give a fancy interface to my parents to use, but still fire up IceWM and bunch of xterms for myself, I'll be happy. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix HTML Email Considered Harmful: http://expita.com/nomime.html msg24611/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Can Linux run on LCPDC with SIS M650?
Hi! I´m a new user of Linux. I don´t know program it. I´ve a LCDPC with SIS M650. How could I work with Debian? Could I work with my LCDPC? Is it possible to see Linux with SIS M650? Thank you so much.
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
Reading the posted messages to this list, all these replies, you come closer to an understanding of the beauty of life. This mailing list is a poem. I am a Cuban-Russian-Ukrainian-Canadian-American Mathematics College professor. I have had technical education, I suppose, since this is what I do for living. What attracts me to Debian is not the technicality -you can get that in many other places-, but the underlying ideas beneath the structure. As humans we should not make the mistake of converting the thought world into another market place. Equilibrium in life will never be achieved that way. Many of us intuitively know that: Who hasn't been shaken after reading "Les miserables"? - Original Message - From: "John Hasler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling? > Scott writes: > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why > > you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this > > stuff. > > I board and train horses and grow hay for a living. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VIA bug?
Hi all, After a fresh install on a newish PC, I get an error like this: probable hardware bug: clock timer configuration lost - probably a VIA686a probable hardware bug: restoring chip configuration This machine also had problems such as the mouse freezing, and sound playback (and recording) was slow, under WinXP - that's part of the reason for switching, but I'm not sure if it's relevant. Anyway, I've discovered that that message does not exist in the 2.4.18 kernel source - does that mean that kernel avoids the problem, and therefore all my problems will be over once I upgrade? Is this something I should be able to get a warranty replacement on? Thanks, Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a basic aptitude question - how to install a virtual package
hello all i am really sorry to ask such a basic question. but i could not locate the help resources. how do i install a 'virtual' package in aptitude? for instance, i can see latex as a package in aptitude. when i hit +, it does not get marked. thanks in advance for help -- regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** BOFH excuse #167: excessive collisions & not enough packet ambulances -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding ethernet driver to install??
I am installing Linux to a machine with a new and obscure ethernet card. I could not find it in the Install Kernel and Driver Modules section. However I went to the manufacturer website and downloaded a linux driver (it is a .tar.gz file). How do I put this on the driver diskettes or get it into the Install Kernel and Driver Modules section? Thanks, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
"Joris" == Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joris> When I say mount /zip I get the the message mount: mount Joris> point /zip does not exist Does 'ls /zip' say zip does not exist too? In that case, just create it. 'mkdir /zip' and go. Joris> Maybe it's important to know I added the line of /dev/hdd Joris> to get it to mount myself - debian didn't add it Joris> automatically so I thought I had to add myself - maybe I Joris> have to edit more ? The mount points must exist for you to mount a device. The device file must exist, and the device must be available, for you to mount a device to a mount point. Pretty simple once you get the hang of it ;-) Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: CDRom and "zip" drive don't mount
"Christof" == hurschler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christof> My question is: how come is this all so complicated? Christof> When I shove a Knoppix CD into my system it mounts Christof> almost everything (except the zip drive) automatically. Christof> I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a newly Christof> installed system to list all data devices it finds and Christof> ask me whether I want to mount them. Or not?? Yes and no. Some people like automatic detection, they chose distributions like Knoppix, Mandrake, Lindows etc. Some people prefer not to have the automatic detection because (a) it makes it impossible to install on some hardware and (b) it does not detect some hardware correctly. Debian seems designed to better support the second class of users. It is all about choices, and the observation that you can't keep all people happy all the time ;-) Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 80 80 80 80 80 80 ... after new install reboot with SCSI
"Emil" == Emil Hägerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Emil> I do that ("Second stage"). What I then get is "LILO" promt
Emil> cut off to "LI" or "L" and then it starts printing "80" in
Emil> an endless cycle.
Hi Emil,
I can't tell you how to fix it, but you can find the error description
in /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz
L ... The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started,
but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error
codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section "Disk error
codes".) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry
mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section "Disk geometry").
LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a
geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map
installer.
0x80 "Disk timeout". The disk or the drive isn't ready. Either the
media is bad or the disk isn't spinning. If you're booting from a
floppy, you might not have closed the drive door. Otherwise, trying to
boot again might help.
Emil> What can I do? Do I have an error in lilo.conf? I'm new to
Emil> SCSI. Should I have given any parameters or added any
Emil> specific modules?
I have not used a SCSI disk since 1997 so I can't really give you a
better idea. I am presuming that your system BIOS does allow booting
from the SCSI drive, and you have booted some OS from this disk in the
past? Hopefully some of the other folks on this list can clue
you in
Cheers!
Shyamal
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Re: ISO Images
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 13:18, Kevin Smith wrote: > I'm slightly confused > > The ISO images provided for Woody, once you have them burned on a CD hwo on > earth do you us it to install Woody? > > I have a beige G3, so need to but from floppy disk drivers. Can I still > install from the CD? > > Thanks. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # dd bs=2x80x18b if=/cdrom/install/bf24.bin of=/dev/fd0 I'm pretty sure bf24.bin is the correct file. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Craig Jackson -- __ Wildnet Group LLC 103 North Park, Suite 110 Covington, Lousiana 70433 985-875-9453 __ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fonts and Initial Install
Hi All, Why is it when Debian is first installed the fonts look marvellous and in proportion. Yet, when I reboot after the install, the fonts look bloody awful and the Konsole font is large and spaced unevenly and so characters overlap each other. Also the menu fonts look crap, what happens when you reboot for it to change these font settings? How do I restore my fonts that when the system was first installed? Thanks, Kevin
X11
I still can't start X with and Ati 9000 (on a desktop). I'd try: ati, atimisc, radeon, vesa and vga. If I use the vga driver, I can start X, but ... I dont need 3D, only 2D 24 color bits. Tanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new... I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these levels that all of you are at? I do electronics design as work, but electronics is also a hobby. There seems to be no line between them;) I wanted linux for the compiler tools (for micro-controllers). I tried mandrake 7 for 6 months but ditched linux altogether for a few years because i could get no help on how to configure all the various things such as X, desktops, etc, and couldn't even find how linux worked (boot process, etc). Installing/uninstalling stuff was a nightmare with rpm dependency problems. I had another go at linux a few months ago and tried debian because it was 'odd', and could be installed over a dialup line. The debian web site was strange with its basic text look and the odd post about the apt-get system seemed interesting. I'd always hated unix users because every single one i've talked to outside of the linux community was a totally arrogant shit. I could smell proprietry unix users from a mile away. I'd rather have win95 anyday just to piss off the unix types that made it so hard for me to do anything useful on the HPUX boxes i used to use at the previous job. Since being on this debian list and getting a bunch of cheap unix/linux books, i know a fair bit of how to use and configure linux usefully. This list is the best;) My biggest interest on linux is as a development system for micro- controllers, and writing electronics CAD programs. I'm learning gnome/gtk+/gdk, and will master lex and yacc. You can drown in too many things to learn. Just configuring a windows manager like fvwm2 or learning vim is not a 10minute job. The best thing i did was to install debian over the net, because then i could install it bit by bit, understanding it a piece at a time. IMHO, it's not good for a newbie to install the whole works and kitchen sink at once if they want to find out how to configure things well without a gui. Think that's enough. Rant off;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim and pipe aliases?
If I execute the script manually it works great. If I execute it via pipe with exim I get this: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.0/LWP/Protocol.pm line 87, <> line 20 (#1) Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/Pager.pl line 60, <> line 20 (#1) My pipe section of my exim.conf looks like this: address_pipe: driver = pipe path = /sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin user = mail environment="http_proxy=http://proxy.rdlg.net:3128"; use_shell = true home_directory = /var/mail return_output (If I don't include the proxy statement I time out on the network connection. Odd because I'm not requiring proxy...) I'm attaching the script. Thus spake Shyamal Prasad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > "Robert" == Robert L Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Robert> This hit the nail on the head. Only one problem now. If > Robert> I save an email to a "file" and do a: > > Robert> cat |/usr/local/bin/pager as user "nomad" it works > Robert> great. > > Robert> If I set this to use user nomad and try to run it my logs > Robert> show: > > Robert> [deleted much output] > Robert> Child process of a ddress_pipe transport returned 255 > Robert> (could mean shell command ended by signal 127 (Unknown > Robert> signal 127)) fr om command: /usr/local/bin/Pager.pl > > I am not familiar with this pager application. Does it produce > anything on standard output? Does it return 0 on exit? > > Otherwise pay attention to this part of exim.conf > > # This transport is used for handling pipe addresses generated by > # alias or .forward files. If the pipe generates any standard output, > # it is returned to the sender of the message as a delivery error. Set > # return_fail_output instead if you want this to happen only when the > # pipe fails to complete normally. > > address_pipe: > driver = pipe > path = /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin > return_output > > > If you say return_output, any output results will cause delivery to > fail. Also, the manual specifically says that the return value is > checked. > > These are just ideas, I have not run exim like this. > > Best regards, > Shyamal :wq! --- Robert L. Harris | PGP Key ID: FC96D405 DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' Pager.pl Description: Perl program msg24624/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Question relating regexp
This is a example one can find on one of the links
discribed in the deb HOWTO package:
=Section Multipliers(text just pasted):
"
An example from the phone list:
1248 Kate 634
1548 Kerry 534
To match a line that starts with a 1,
has some digits, at least one space
and a name that starts with a K we can write:
grep '^1[0-9]\{1,\} \{1,\}K' phonelist.txt
or use * and repeat [0-9] and space:
grep '^1[0-9][0-9]* *K' phonelist.txt
"
=Why, in the first example, has the author
prefaced the char 'K' with the one or more
times multiplier? He only wants to find a
name beginning with 'K'(!)
Then, in the snd grep command he doubled
'[0-9]', wouldn't only '^1[0-9]*'be
sufficent? Again, 'K' is prefaced with the
asterisk which doesn't seem necessary to me.
I hope one day all would agree on one standard.
Robert
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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
* Scott --sidewalking-- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030117 02:00]: > All, > > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning > horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on Good choice, the packaging system is amazing. > this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, > but I am still taking general ed classes in college, and am hoping I > can survive the math classes to pursue a CS degree. There is a > class or two on Unix essentials or Unix internals, but that is all. > Some programming, of course, is involved. > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. I am working in the field mostly in web applications. I have recently moved over to linux permanently (I have windows running in an emulator when I need to have windows for work related stuff), and it has been a lot of fun, and frustration. Ultimately, very rewarding, and this mailing list as well as google groups has been critical to me achieving anything with linux. That said now that the learning curve is cresting a bit I would never go back to a windows type platform and for my work it kicks ass.:) I use the packaging facility extensively to install software, and although I do compile from source, that is a matter of untarring the tar ball looking for the README and INSTALL files and reading them thoroughly following the instructions and praying. If something goes wrong I have been getting better at debugging the problem, or asking for help in an appropriate forum. I rarely have problems, but when I do I usually have no idea what to do, so look for something else.:) > Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > levels that all of you are at? I have been interested in unix-type systems as I quickly became more unhappy with windows, especially as each release hid the command-line more and more. I have recently made the plunge, and I have to say that this is the only way to do it, just as you have probably spent hours and hours trying to figure out problems in windows, you need to do the same with linux, and you will be amply rewarded with a fast responsive system, that can be configured to an amazing degree. Good luck in your adventures, and hope you come to love *nix systems as much as I do. rohan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
Hi,
This perhaps is a general font problem. I am using gaim for msn. But when
I use it to send Chinese characters warning messages appears as
below:
Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1
Gdk-WARNING **: GB2312.1980-0
My locale is set to zh_CN.
$ locale
LANG=zh_CN
LC_CTYPE=zh_CN
LC_NUMERIC="zh_CN"
LC_TIME="zh_CN"
LC_COLLATE="zh_CN"
LC_MONETARY="zh_CN"
LC_MESSAGES="zh_CN"
LC_PAPER="zh_CN"
LC_NAME="zh_CN"
LC_ADDRESS="zh_CN"
LC_TELEPHONE="zh_CN"
LC_MEASUREMENT="zh_CN"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="zh_CN"
LC_ALL=
$ cat /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_CN
style "gtk-default-zh-cn" {
fontset = "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--17-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\
-*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb2312.1980-0"
}
class "GtkWidget" style "gtk-default-zh-cn"
xlsfonts ouput indicating I have both fonts installed. Any idea what's
the reason? Thanks.
Qian
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Re: 80 80 80 80 80 80 ... after new install reboot with SCSI
On 1/17/03 6:58 AM, "Shyamal Prasad" wrote:
> "Emil" == Emil Hägerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Emil> I do that ("Second stage"). What I then get is "LILO" promt
> Emil> cut off to "LI" or "L" and then it starts printing "80" in
> Emil> an endless cycle.
We had the same thing happen to a HP Vectra box. Thought the HD went out and
slew of other things. Went to HP site and found it as an error code. We went
into the bios and reset it. Rebooted and been fine ever since. Not sure what
happened that day and probably never will. May have been some type of power
surge, but we run all the boxes on UPS's so go figure.
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Re: a basic aptitude question - how to install a virtual package
"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh writes: Sandip> hello all i am really sorry to ask such a basic Sandip> question. but i could not locate the help resources. Sandip> how do i install a 'virtual' package in aptitude? for Sandip> instance, i can see latex as a package in aptitude. when i Sandip> hit +, it does not get marked. I don't use aptitude, but I can't believe things are that much different there. You need to install a package that provides latex. For example, tetex-base gives you the teTeX implementation of TeX/LaTeX. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squirrelmail users can't login after 1.3.2 update
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Re: X11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 January 2003 14:20, Vanilla wrote: > I still can't start X with and Ati 9000 (on a desktop). > I'd try: ati, atimisc, radeon, vesa and vga. > If I use the vga driver, I can start X, but ... > I dont need 3D, only 2D 24 color bits. Here's what you might try: - Install XFree 4.2.1 from testing. It's got a whole load of drivers that just aren't there in 4.1.0 from stable/woody, but I don't know whether it recognizes the 9000 properly. - If that doesn't work, have a look at the "Downloads" section at http://dri.sourceforge.net, the package they provide should support what you need. I didn't have muck luck in installing those on a woody system, so you might want to update to 4.2.1 anyway. - -- Embedded Linux -- True multitasking! TWO TOASTS AT THE SAME TIME! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+KBWZeOF0+zcVdv8RAhyGAJ9Y/W9vK8mEKVu1UrDKq2N5Or/hfgCfad1p lvUJgb8g4CjqbgUaX16Mqhs= =ofle -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which 2.4 kernel and patch(es) to avoid IDE disk corruption when DMA on?
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* nate [Thu, Jan 16 2003, 10:53:16AM]:
> the problem is probably easier resolved by using another IDE controller,
> I highly reccomend the Promise ATA/100 and ATA/66 series(have not tried
> the ATA/133). DMA problems are most often caused by buggy IDE controllers
SO GO AND TRY before you make such naive recommendations. Promise gives
a FSCK on supporting Linux, many new series are only supported with AC
kernel (experimental) only.
Gruss/Regards,
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WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(
Steve Juranich said: > I eventually converted to Mandrake, since it was easier to maintain > (they had that rudimentary up2date-like system a couple of years > before RH). I then met another friend who basically called me a > little girl for running Mandrake, and he introduced me to the > beauty of 'apt'. Crap! I wussed out last night after not being able to set my damn sound card working in Debian Woody. I have put it on and removed it twice now in the past couple of weeks, and the last experience was the most positive of all of my distros tried: Slack 8.1, RH 7.2 and 8.0, Libranet 2.0, and then the Knoppix Live CD, which rocks, but is more of a demo (I have made a few converts at work with that disc!). My sound card os one of those generic VIA AC97 onboard cards, on a Shuttle AK32 board w/Athlon 1.1. I searched the archives of this list and there were many issues and posts with that card, and worse yet, it seems to be a fairly generic description. I did the lsipc list and it showed on there, I tried modprobe, sndconfig, and kudzu, but nothing. Then I remembered that when I tried Mandrake 9.0 last week to play with it, it picked up the sound mod and initialized it. I actually threw a disc in and got to listen to it. The Knoppix is basically Debian and I got the same error from it, and the ONLY other distro that picked up the soundcard all right was the other Deb-based one: Libranet 2.0. However, I botched that install somehow and GRUB didn't load right. I didn't care to retry it as I wanted to try a couple of others that night (LONG NIGHT, but exciting to see all of those!). Anyway, I searched and searched and frankly, didn't even understand what the answers were that were being provided. Since I saw that it had come up so often here, I was a little gunshy of posting to this list. I will research it later and I know I will be back to Debian soon -- maybe even tonight or tomorrow :) Mandrake 9.0 has GNOME 2 on it, which is cool, and it still has development tools that I can learn on. Aside from the bad taste that RPMS leave in peoples' mouths, is Mandrake really THAT bad? I need more of the basics to understand this stuff. Need to spend more time in the CLI, and Mandrake can let me do that when I want, yet give me a functional GUI when I want it. I can't help but feel like a bastard, though. I want Debian, Slack, or Gentoo to work for me, but need to break myself in or I won't even survive the install. By the way: I am a MASTER patitioner, at least now! ;0} Scott --sidewalking-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Drive errors
I have been running the same woody box for more then 2 years, and I
just got the following message:
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hda: DMA disabled
ide0: reset: success
I seem to remember (the archives were no help) that someone had
suggested that this may be a bad drive? Everything seems to be working
now, but if this drive is on it's way out, I would rather replace it
now before it's completely dead...
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Re: Question relating regexp
Robert Land wrote:
> An example from the phone list:
>
> 1248 Kate 634
>
> 1548 Kerry 534
>
>
> To match a line that starts with a 1,
> has some digits, at least one space
> and a name that starts with a K we can write:
>
> grep '^1[0-9]\{1,\} \{1,\}K' phonelist.txt
> or use * and repeat [0-9] and space:
> grep '^1[0-9][0-9]* *K' phonelist.txt
> "
>
> =Why, in the first example, has the author
> prefaced the char 'K' with the one or more
> times multiplier? He only wants to find a
> name beginning with 'K'(!)
Actually, the one or more times multiplier is applied to
the space that it follows, not to the K that it precedes.
> Then, in the snd grep command he doubled
> '[0-9]', wouldn't only '^1[0-9]*'be
> sufficent? Again, 'K' is prefaced with the
> asterisk which doesn't seem necessary to me.
the example means this:
A line starting with a 1, then a digit, then zero or more
digits, then a space, then zero or more spaces, then a K.
Again, the star refers to the space that it follows, not to
the K that it precedes.
So as far as I can see, the examples give the same result.
> I hope one day all would agree on one standard.
>
> Robert
I personally prefer the second version, but I guess it's a
matter of taste :-)
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Re: problem setting up a local network
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:14, Tommaso Moroni wrote: Hugh Saunders wrote: "a" is 192.168.1.2 which is on another subnet to "B" which appears to be on 192.168.100.1 ?? is B's IPaddr 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.100.1?? That's a difficult question, because actually I've never understood what happens with the ADSL drivers I use! Anyway, when I connect to internet with B I get a ppp0 interface (the ADSL modem is USB so no ethernet interfaces used) and the routing table setted up as I wrote. Actually I don't know where 192.168.100.1 IPaddr, I only know that it appears also when I do "ifconfig": loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:948 (948.0 b) TX bytes:948 (948.0 b) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:80.116.138.85 P-t-P:192.168.100.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:417 (417.0 b) TX bytes:180 (180.0 b) The 192.168.1.1 IPaddr should be the address of B in the local network I'd like to install. I hope to have been clearer! If ppp0 is used to connect to the ADSL modem, where is the eth0 used to connect to B? That's my fault! eth0 wasn't up when I did "ifconfig". Here's the output with eth0: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:60:97:CA:2F:41 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:948 (948.0 b) TX bytes:948 (948.0 b) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:80.116.139.226 P-t-P:192.168.100.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:41 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:29 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:2432 (2.3 KiB) TX bytes:1442 (1.4 KiB) Can you attach /etc/network/interfaces, and the output from lspci and lsmod? (Presuming that your ethernet driver is in a module, and not built-in.) abulafia:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 abulafia:~# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev c4) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] 00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Mobile South] (rev 23) 00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 10) 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 11) 00:04.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 Power Management (rev 30) 00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 2 (rev 02) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c900 Combo [Boomerang] 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 08) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G100 [Productiva] AGP (rev 02) abulafia:~# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted ppp_synctty 5248 1 (autoclean) ppp_generic18592 3 (autoclean) [ppp_synctty] slhc4400 0 (autoclean) [ppp_generic] usb-uhci 22156 0 (unused) usbcore55808 1 [usb-uhci] apm 9000 2 (autoclean) ipt_state632 80 (autoclean) ipt_REJECT 2872 4 (autoclean) ipt_limit 1080 6 (autoclean) ipt_LOG 3288 6 (autoclean) ip_conntrack_ftp3920 0 (unused) ip_conntrack_irc3184 0 (unused) ip_conntrack 18304 3 [ipt_state ip_conntrack_ftp ip_conntrack_irc] iptable_filter 1732 1 (autoclean) ip_tables 10552 5 [ipt_state ipt_REJECT ipt_limit ipt_LOG iptable_filter] nls_c
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > levels that all of you are at? I've been working as a support technician (in one form or another) for the last 7 years. I started using Linux about 3 (late '99) years ago. At first it was just to satisfy my curiousity. I had a small home network consisting of about 5 systems all running MS OSes. Periodically, the system we used for file storage would simply stop (lock up, BSOD, etc). Additionally, it had become almost routine to reinstall our personal systems almost monthly. All of this led to a general sense of frustration with our current situation. My room mate at the time picked up RH 6.1 and we began experimenting with it. Shortly there after, RH 6.2 was released and we continued with it. I borrowed an old laptop from my employer at the time and started testing different ideas and configurations. Eventually, I found that I could do almost everything I needed (both professionally and personally) in Linux. I converted the system we were using as a file store to Linux and the mysterious lockups stopped (exact same hardware only the OS changed). Then I began migrating my personal system and company laptop to RH. With the addition of VMWare, I had everything I needed. VMWare was needed due to a proprietary development environment our product used. I then switched employers to a smaller company (my current employer) and began using Linux to solve a myriad of problems around the office from revision management (CVS, SVN), to scanner access (XSane and GIMP), to sharing our Internet connection (iptables). Throughout this time, I was constantly downloading other Linux releases and installing them on my home systems. I was restlessly searching for a distribution that fit my ideals and usage. I eventually found Crux and it seemed to have most of what I wanted, but everything in it was optimized for the 686 and my new notebook (Sony C1VN) wasn't happy with it. I wanted one distribution for all my systems. So, I began with Crux as a base and started recompiling the packages and making my own distribution. Right about the time I finished work on the first crude revision of my home-brewed distro, a user of the firewall script I'd put together asked why I was going through so much trouble when Debian seemed like a good fit. I had previously looked at Debian, but been turned off by it's use of a 2.2.x kernel and older packages. I didn't "get" how Debian was structured at the time. He explained the differences between the various releases and suggested I give "testing" a try. I did, and within a month had begun the migration of my home network (by now ~12 systems) to Debian. I've been using it ever since. I'm now working on becoming a Debian Developer and am the current maintainer for the Jabber package. So, yea, I'm a geek. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to make a DSL Internet Connectioo? Thanks
Thanks to all. My problem was that pump was not installed and I didn't know I needed it. I had installed Woody from a CD set some months ago. Once I knew I needed it, I was able to install pump from the CD set and then route set the gateway. Bingo, I was online! Apt-get dist-upgrade ran in 15 minutes! Again, thanks for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mac-fdisk
Might I recommend, http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook c 2p -Original Message- From: Kevin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mac-fdisk I'm having a really bad day, I managed to do this the first time but cannot do it the second time I need to partition my hard drive for the Linux partitions. In mac-fdisk I type I to initialise the parition map. Now when I try to create a new partition it says: "requested base and length is not within an existing free partition" Hello This is what my partition map looks like at the moment.. /dev/hda1Apple_partition_mapApple63@1(31.5K) Partition map /dev/hda2Apple_FreeExtra40132438@64(19.1G)Free space So if I enter the command: c2, this doesn't comes up with the error about. How on earth to I create a partition? Help! Please. :) Thanks, Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to make a DSL Internet Connectioo? THANKS
The problem was that pump was not installed and I didn't know I needed it. Woody was installed from a CD set several months ago. Once I understood it was needed, I was able to install pump from the CD set and then route set the gateway. Bingo, I was on line. Apt-get dist-upgrade ran in 15 minutes! Great! Again, thanks to all for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question relating regexp
Robert Land wrote:
> An example from the phone list:
>
> 1248 Kate 634
>
> 1548 Kerry 534
>
>
> To match a line that starts with a 1,
> has some digits, at least one space
> and a name that starts with a K we can write:
>
> grep '^1[0-9]\{1,\} \{1,\}K' phonelist.txt
> or use * and repeat [0-9] and space:
> grep '^1[0-9][0-9]* *K' phonelist.txt
> "
>
>
> Why, in the first example, has the author
> prefaced the char 'K' with the one or more
> times multiplier? He only wants to find a
> name beginning with 'K'(!)
You're misreading it. The quantity applies to the _preceding_ character,
not the _subsequent_ character.
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Re: Question relating regexp
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 03:03:33PM +0100, Robert Land wrote:
> "
> An example from the phone list:
>
> 1248 Kate 634
>
> 1548 Kerry 534
>
>
> To match a line that starts with a 1,
> has some digits, at least one space
> and a name that starts with a K we can write:
>
> grep '^1[0-9]\{1,\} \{1,\}K' phonelist.txt
> or use * and repeat [0-9] and space:
> grep '^1[0-9][0-9]* *K' phonelist.txt
> "
>
>
> =Why, in the first example, has the author
> prefaced the char 'K' with the one or more
> times multiplier? He only wants to find a
> name beginning with 'K'(!)
>
> Then, in the snd grep command he doubled
> '[0-9]', wouldn't only '^1[0-9]*'be
> sufficent? Again, 'K' is prefaced with the
> asterisk which doesn't seem necessary to me.
In both cases, you're assuming that modifiers like \{...\} and * modify
the atom following them. This is not true; they modify the atom
*preceding* them. So / \{1,\}K/ and / *K/ both mean "at least one space
followed by a K".
With regard to /1[0-9][0-9]*/ versus /1[0-9]*/, it appears that the
author requires there to be at least two digits in any number. /1[0-9]*/
would match, among other things, the simple "1".
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Re: KDE questions
> 2) What's with konqueror not hanging on to cookies between sessions on >some sites (namely, slashdot)? Are you sure you're accessing the same way? SlashDot's cookie configuration is a little strange. www.slashdot.org and slashdot.org have different cookie sets for some things, and if you access www.slashdot.org instead of slashdot.org, it'll eventually kick you over to it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question relating regexp
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 03:03:33PM +0100, Robert Land wrote:
> grep '^1[0-9]\{1,\} \{1,\}K' phonelist.txt
> or use * and repeat [0-9] and space:
> grep '^1[0-9][0-9]* *K' phonelist.txt
>
> =Why, in the first example, has the author
> prefaced the char 'K' with the one or more
> times multiplier? He only wants to find a
> name beginning with 'K'(!)
Sure, but the multipliers don't affect the following expression;
the work for the preceding one. That means, the first expression
says "1, one or more numbers, one or more spaces, K".
>
> Then, in the snd grep command he doubled
> '[0-9]', wouldn't only '^1[0-9]*'be
> sufficent? Again, 'K' is prefaced with the
> asterisk which doesn't seem necessary to me.
No, it wouldn't. You want the "1" at the beginning to be followed
by _at least_ one more number. The "*" means "zero or more",
so [0-9]* matches either some digits or none. It translates to
"there might as well be digits, but not necessarily". So the
second expression means "1, any number, possible number(s), space,
more possible space, K".
Thus: [0-9] = a number;
[0-9]* = either no number, exactly one, or some numbers;
[0-9]\{2,4\} = between two and four numbers;
[0-9]\{0,\} = zero or more; equals [0-9]*
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Rate limit exim
Hi, I've setup a free shell account server and so far so good. One thought that has come to me though it that I want to try to limit the chance of someone spamming from the service. As a first step I want to try to rate limit exim (then I will look at iptables). Looking over the config I can't see anything obvious and a google doesn't chuck up anything. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Cheers Rus -- http://www.65535.net | MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lifetime UNIX logins - Web Hosting - Free Shell Accounts Offsite Backups - Remote System Monitoring -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MOUSE won't function
Hi everybody, First of all, sory about the number of mails I allready have sent about this subject - I just want to get debian working as soon as possible and it seems the *only* problem right now is the lame mouse... I had a look at the page. However, it says I have to run: gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t imps2 (which doesn't do anything as gpm is allready running) - and it says I can make this default by editing the "initialisation file named sumething like rc.d" - however it doesn't tell were that is in Debian - can you tell me where I should edit ? Thanks in advance --- Nick Lidakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joris Huizer wrote: > > >OK for everybody - I was *still* not sure about the > >mouse so I asked my dad who has all the hardware > info > >(he did the buying so he has the info :-S) > > > >The mouse is a Logitech MouseMan(r) Wheel, 3 > buttons > >with wheel USB > > > >I hope this will make things clear! > > > >--- Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html > > Follow this link. I used all the info listed here to > set up my usb > Logitech scroll mouse. > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
* Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [ ... ] > > > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > > levels that all of you are at? > > > > Just curious... > > Well, as for me, I wrote my first computer program in 1969, and we all > used puchcards and paper tape and printouts, as well as console entry > switches on the computer itself. We programmed in Assembly Language, > FORTRAN, PL/I, and some people used a new, state-of-the-art experimental > language called Basic, which actually ran on an interactive terminal (a > 10 character-per-second teletype that also accepted paper tape). I can top that by a couple of years, since I started in 1965, but didn't have the pleasure of working with Unix, since I shifted into psychology (I'm now an Industrial-Organizational Psychologist, and I won't explain because the explanation is proportionately as long as the label). I'd hardly consider myself a hacker, but I guess it's all relative. One of the things I particularly enjoy about this list is that relatively-unlearned guys like me have an opportunity to offer help to someone else. If you've had to solve a problem, the odds are that someone else will shortly have the same problem. You help them with it, and get to look like a genius. Just for the record, I encountered Windows 1.0 at work, hated it, and haven't used it willingly since, unless you count having to install it so OS/2 could deal with M$-centric software. Cheers Cam -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. From Roberts Creek on B.C.'s incomparable Sunshine Coast [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sensor chipset
Hi all, I've a brand new P4T533-R board. And want to setup the sensors package. Is there anyone use this board and can tell me what sensor chip it have ? Thanks for your help. mess-mate -- Computers are like air conditioners, they are useless when you open Windows. msg24650/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
xdm error
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Konqueror - help please
Hi all, for some reason konqueror keeps starting as a plain window, without any menus. There is no problem with open location from bookmarks, no problem with browsing the web, but I cannot use any item from menu, because of its disappearance. I use unstable/testing Debian with KDE 3.1 from Ralf's debs. I tried Googling, but didn't find anything, I tried to find configuration file - I think it's konqueror.rc, but in vain. Please, any idea? Vlada -- Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:00:56AM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > Mandrake 9.0 has GNOME 2 on it, which is cool, and it still has > development tools that I can learn on. Aside from the bad taste > that RPMS leave in peoples' mouths, is Mandrake really THAT bad? Each distro has it's niche. It's really a matter of matching your tastes and desires with that of a distro. For some that means that Mandrake is a good fit, for others Slackware, for still others Debian, etc... Is one "good" and the others "bad", not really. > I need more of the basics to understand this stuff. Need to spend > more time in the CLI, and Mandrake can let me do that when I want, yet > give me a functional GUI when I want it. This can become a bit of a catch-22. Some people can do it and eventually learn the CLI options and tools. Many others fall back on the GUI tools because they are there, and never get around to using the CLI tools. But again, it's a matter of preference. If the GUI works for you and you like it, use it. > I can't help but feel like a bastard, though. I want Debian, Slack, > or Gentoo to work for me, but need to break myself in or I won't even > survive the install. Don't be afraid to ask. Everyone has to start somewhere. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terrifying compile
This probably should go to Debian Curiosa. But since this
involves an important Debian package, here goes:
I did an "apt-get source python2.3" this evening and merrily
typed "debuild -b -uc -us" within the build tree. Midway thru
what should be an uneventful compile (after I had hacked thru a
number of build dependencies), the speakers attached to my box
suddenly spouted something like "No one expects the Spanish
Inquistion!"
Boy, that scared me! Two things came to my mind: (1) I was being
haunted (2) I was hacked by a joker. But being somewhat of a
rationalist, I decided to investigate. My initial suspicion was
that it was tied to the python build. I grep'ped the source for
"Spanish Inquisition" and sure enough, there was a file that
contained the words:
$ grep -ir "Spanish Inquisition" python2.3-2.2.97/
python2.3-2.2.97/Demo/pdist/cmdfw.py: print "Nobody expects the Spanish
Inquisition!"
python2.3-2.2.97/Mac/Lib/test/tte.py:t = TETextBox("Nobody expects the SPANISH
inquisition", r, 1)
Without so much as scanning the source I thought that I might
have heard some sort of test of, say, python's built-in speech
synthesis. A reasonable supposition at the time. So I changed the
whimsical words to something saner like "This is a test of
python's [blah]." I still heard the malediction. I concluded
that perhaps the voice was a pre-recorded or pre-sythensized
audio sample. I did a search for "*wav", the most likely
suspect. Failing to find such a file, and thinking that Debian
won't allow its sources to be polluted by an mp3, I next searched
for "*au". There I put the mystery to rest.
The offending audio file?
"python2.3-2.2.97/Lib/test/audiotest.au"
Play it and be terrified.
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Re: Question relating regexp
On Fri 17 Jan 2003 15:03:33 +(+0100), Robert Land wrote:
>
> To match a line that starts with a 1,
> has some digits, at least one space
> and a name that starts with a K we can write:
>
> grep '^1[0-9]\{1,\} \{1,\}K' phonelist.txt
> or use * and repeat [0-9] and space:
> grep '^1[0-9][0-9]* *K' phonelist.txt
> "
>
>
> =Why, in the first example, has the author
> prefaced the char 'K' with the one or more
> times multiplier? He only wants to find a
> name beginning with 'K'(!)
He/she hasn't. The "one or more times multiplier" applies to the preceding element (a
space). Let's break this regular expression down:
^ matches start of line
1 matches a '1'
[0-9]\{1,\} matches one or more digits
\{1,\} matches one or more spaces
K matches a 'K'
>
> Then, in the snd grep command he doubled
> '[0-9]', wouldn't only '^1[0-9]*'be
> sufficent? Again, 'K' is prefaced with the
> asterisk which doesn't seem necessary to me.
Again, the asterisk applies to the preceding, not following, element.
The example can be written more simply with egrep:
egrep '^1[0-9]+ +K' phonelist.txt
+ means one or more of the preceding element. It's extended regular expression syntax.
+See "man 7 regex" for basic vs. extended regular expressions.
I hope this helps.
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RE: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
| I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is | why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking | all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so | long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these | levels that all of you are at? | | Just curious... Well, yes and no. I have sort of a round about computer history. I got my first computer when I was 10, a TI-99/4A -- that should date me properly, and I liked it a lot. I got a Commodore 128 a few years later and learned assembly. I went to college to become a musician and later sold out my art for money, I changed to a business major. Got BBA and an MBA, I'm also a CPA. I'm addicted to college, so I came back to computing and am working on a MS in CS with 9 hours to go! I've been on debian since bo, and I like to program in plain old C (if you can't do it in C, it can't or shouldn't be done). I work as an accountant/systems admin for a manufacturing company. Brooks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(
> My sound card os one of those generic VIA AC97 onboard cards, on a > Shuttle AK32 board w/Athlon 1.1. I searched the archives of this > list and there were many issues and posts with that card, and worse > yet, it seems to be a fairly generic description. Yes, this little beast has been the subject of much discussion. I myself fell victim to its wiles when I brought my new computer home in March. It's really not that complicated. All you'll need to do is install an alsa package that matches your kernel. Actually, the 2.4.19 and above kernels are supposed to support this card out of the box, but I haven't tried it yet. After installing an alsa package, you'll want to run the alsa configurator (I think it's called alsacfg or something like that). Unfortunately, automatic detection and configuration of peripheral devices like soundcards and joysticks is much more advanced in the "commercial" distributions. But these are usually just frills on most peoples boxes, and the problems get solved eventually. If you're dependent on regularly being able to process a lot of audio, then by all means, use the distro that's right for you. Also, there's nothing really wrong with Mandrake (except that it uses RPMs). I used to love RPMs, until I started using apt. That RPM stuff is for monkeys. It's (usually) not much more difficult to just build from source. Having said that, I haven't used Mandrake in a long time (around 3 years) and I'm sure things have changed. I installed a RH 7.3 box a while ago and I was SUPREMELY impressed with the ease and smoothness of the installation. Everything (including my cdrw) just worked(!). It's just been my experience, however, is that RPM-based distros are more concerned with system installation than system maintenance (which you will probably be doing for much longer). It sounds like you're on the right path. I remember when I first started I was probably making a new installation about every couple of months or so, until I figured out that's not how you fix things on a Unix box. ;-) Whatever you decide to do, have fun with it. If you choose Mandrake, we wish you well. If you need some help with Debian, well, you know where to come. -- Stephen W. Juranich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electrical Engineering http://students.washington.edu/sjuranic University of Washingtonhttp://ssli.ee.washington.edu/ssli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: sensor chipset
There's a script "sensors-detect" that comes with the lm-sensors software, it'll probe through all the modules you have and tell you what and what modules you need. I seriously recomend installing from source and not the deb packages unless you always use debian packaged kernels. Thus spake mess-mate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi all, > I've a brand new P4T533-R board. > And want to setup the sensors package. > Is there anyone use this board and can tell me > what sensor chip it have ? > Thanks for your help. > mess-mate > > -- > Computers are like air conditioners, they are useless when you open > Windows. :wq! --- Robert L. Harris | PGP Key ID: FC96D405 DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' msg24659/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X11
I had a similiar problem with an ATI AIW 8500dv. I ended up upgrading to xfree86 4.2 from 4.1, (which necessitated an upgrade from "Woody" to "Testing") this fixed the problem, I specified the radeon driver. Here is a link to the ATI website where they provide instructions on how to install a binary module in the kernel to support the 9000. http://mirror.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html This however involves an rpm package - the process looked to fraught with danger to me so I chose to upgrade to Xfree86 4.2 instead. Xfree86 4.3 will contain better support for accelerated 3D, but if all you need is 2d Xfree86 4.2 will work fine. Paul Winkler On Friday 17 January 2003 07:20 am, Vanilla wrote: > I still can't start X with and Ati 9000 (on a desktop). > I'd try: ati, atimisc, radeon, vesa and vga. > If I use the vga driver, I can start X, but ... > I dont need 3D, only 2D 24 color bits. > > Tanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave upand went back to Mandrake :-(
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: Steve Juranich said: I eventually converted to Mandrake, since it was easier to maintain (they had that rudimentary up2date-like system a couple of years before RH). I then met another friend who basically called me a little girl for running Mandrake, and he introduced me to the beauty of 'apt'. Crap! I wussed out last night after not being able to set my damn sound card working in Debian Woody. I have put it on and removed it twice now in the past couple of weeks, and the last experience was the most positive of all of my distros tried: Slack 8.1, RH 7.2 and 8.0, Libranet 2.0, and then the Knoppix Live CD, which rocks, but is more of a demo (I have made a few converts at work with that disc!). My sound card os one of those generic VIA AC97 onboard cards, on a Shuttle AK32 board w/Athlon 1.1. I searched the archives of this list and there were many issues and posts with that card, and worse yet, it seems to be a fairly generic description. I did the lsipc list and it showed on there, I tried modprobe, sndconfig, and kudzu, but nothing. Then I remembered that when I tried Mandrake 9.0 last week to play with it, it picked up the sound mod and initialized it. I actually threw a disc in and got to listen to it. The Knoppix is basically Debian and I got the same error from it, and the ONLY other distro that picked up the soundcard all right was the other Deb-based one: Libranet 2.0. However, I botched that install somehow and GRUB didn't load right. I didn't care to retry it as I wanted to try a couple of others that night (LONG NIGHT, but exciting to see all of those!). Anyway, I searched and searched and frankly, didn't even understand what the answers were that were being provided. Since I saw that it had come up so often here, I was a little gunshy of posting to this list. I will research it later and I know I will be back to Debian soon -- maybe even tonight or tomorrow :) Mandrake 9.0 has GNOME 2 on it, which is cool, and it still has development tools that I can learn on. Aside from the bad taste that RPMS leave in peoples' mouths, is Mandrake really THAT bad? I need more of the basics to understand this stuff. Need to spend more time in the CLI, and Mandrake can let me do that when I want, yet give me a functional GUI when I want it. I can't help but feel like a bastard, though. I want Debian, Slack, or Gentoo to work for me, but need to break myself in or I won't even survive the install. By the way: I am a MASTER patitioner, at least now! ;0} Scott --sidewalking-- Holler when you get ready to install Debian again. I have that exact same MB with that sound chipset here. I got it working just last week, although it was not obvious. Hint: use 0.9 version of ALSA and the "snd-via82xx" driver module. It has to be manually configured...I never found an auto-detect program that would handle it correctly, but once configured, it works AOK. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installation date
Is there a way to find out which packages were installed / re-installed recently, to find out which packages were updated after a certain date, or to get a list of installed packages sorted by installation date/time? Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
Thus spake Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... > Linux is a version of Unix that first came out in the mid-1990's. > So by now, it's part of the nearly 30-year evolution of the original > Unix. I think it's worth pointing out that the "original" unix was very seriously based on (concepts of) the Multics operating system. Even the original spelling (Unics) was a punning reference. Richie and Thompson both worked on the Multics project while Bell Labs was still part of it (they withdrew in 1969). The system began development in 1965, went live in 1969 and the last system was shut off in October 2000... There's much more information on the greatest OS ever at http://www.multicians.org/ -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
Hi, On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > levels that all of you are at? I am not an software engineer nor an EE engineer who thinks Debian as my hobby. (Material science in training, technical sales liaison as my proffession.) It takes time to get used to it especially when you want to do complex staff. But this hobby took me to here. If you want instant-Linux with passive attitudes and expectations that evrything is configured by GUI, Debian may not be ready to address needs of you yet. Debian does not require user to compile anything. It requires users to "configure" things right. Relax and read some documentations. I hope you like my "Debian Reference" http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, at the gateway server + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
This problem is caused in Debian by a mismatch between the defoma setup and the Xfree86 setup. In XF86Config-4 there is a line Load "freetype". defoma must now also know that we are working with freetype (not xtt). This is set by running dpkg-reconfigure x-ttcidfonts-conf (as root) and setting the "backend" to freetype. Regads, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(
Steve Juranich said: All you'll > need to do is install an alsa package that matches your kernel. > Actually, the 2.4.19 and above kernels are supposed to support > this card out of the box, but I haven't tried it yet. After > installing an alsa package, you'll want to run the alsa > configurator (I think it's called alsacfg or something like > that). Thanks Steve, I will have to do some searching on this "alsa" you speak of so I can be ready for my 3rd go at Debian, which really could be any day. Having Debian Woody on my computer for nearly a week has been my record so far! I have frankly gone overboard in LinuxLand and just wanted to try everything. I am REALLY liking GNOME 2.0, so Debian Sid is going to be very welcome in my home when it shows up as a stable release! > Also, there's nothing really wrong with Mandrake (except that it > uses RPMs). I used to love RPMs, until I started using apt. That > RPM stuff is for monkeys. It's (usually) not much more difficult > to just build from source. I need to learn how to compile from source anyway, but I should still be able to learn this on Mandrake, but not be forced to do it until I have time to learn, you know? > Whatever you decide to do, have fun with it. If you choose > Mandrake, we wish you well. If you need some help with Debian, > well, you know where to come. Settling on THE distro will not be anything but Debian, Slackware, or Gentoo, but I have to pay my dues before I even can consider trying a Gentoo install. Mandrake is a temporary boot camp to learn and move on to bigger and better things. Overall, Debian has been my favorite, if I can just learn a little more about what makes it tick. Thanks again for your input, Steve. This list is more friendly than some others, and certainly moreso than some of the forums. :o} Scott -sidewalking- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
error running apt-get update
Hello. Yesterday I got the following error when running apt-get update: ... Fetched 77.4kB in 33s (2284B/s) Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing libscrollkeeper0 (NewFileVer1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. My system is a mixed bag of woody and sid. I'm not sure what other information would be useful here. My version of libscrollkeeper0 is Version: 0.3.6-3.1. Any suggestions how to deal with this would be great. Oh, and I get the same error when I run apt-get upgrade, which isn't too surprising. -- David Roundy http://civet.berkeley.edu/droundy/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with tv card
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:44:27AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > On 8 Jan 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > You have a PC dedicated to displaying TV > > Actually, a lot of people do. > > They're called TiVo's and ReplayTv's and Dishplayers and stuff like that > > :) That's nothing. I have a 600MHz/128Mb PC, dedicated to running a DOS program that copies everything it receives on COM2 to COM3, and vice versa. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question relating regexp
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On Friday 17 January 2003 15:03, Robert Land wrote:
> grep '^1[0-9]\{1,\} \{1,\}K' phonelist.txt
> or use * and repeat [0-9] and space:
> grep '^1[0-9][0-9]* *K' phonelist.txt
> "
>
>
> =Why, in the first example, has the author
> prefaced the char 'K' with the one or more
> times multiplier? He only wants to find a
> name beginning with 'K'(!)
>
> Then, in the snd grep command he doubled
> '[0-9]', wouldn't only '^1[0-9]*'be
> sufficent? Again, 'K' is prefaced with the
> asterisk which doesn't seem necessary to me.
It's searching for one or more space character, the asterisk is a "none
or more" suffix for the preceding space. AFAIK there are no prefix
multipliers in regexps. An equivalent notation would probably be
'^1[0-9]+ +K' or, according to REGEX(7)
'^1[:digit:]+ +K' (can't really use [:space:] since it would match
newlines) or even better to also accept tabs as separator:
'^1[:digit:]+[ \t]+K'
but I'm not that good with POSIX/extended regexps. There _is_ a standard
for that stuff, but it's weird enough to leave a lot of freedom.
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Re: Drive errors
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On Friday 17 January 2003 16:06, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> I have been running the same woody box for more then 2 years, and I
> just got the following message:
>
> hda: timeout waiting for DMA
> hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> hda: timeout waiting for DMA
> hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hda: DMA disabled
> ide0: reset: success
>
> I seem to remember (the archives were no help) that someone had
> suggested that this may be a bad drive? Everything seems to be
> working now, but if this drive is on it's way out, I would rather
> replace it now before it's completely dead...
This could mean that the drive is developing a hardware problem while
reading data from the disk (head positioning finishes, but no data is
delivered). Depending on the type of the drive and on how hard it's
been used, it probably has reached its best-before date. If you've been
using it for two years now, that's probably the case. Most consumer
drives are not meant to last this long (they're selling 'em cheap but
in volume... figure out the rest for yourself...)
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Re: (OT) Worst night ever. WAS Adding a ide drive to an all scsi comp uter
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 02:58:45AM -0600, Michael Kahle wrote: > > In a moment of "ah-ha" I carefully > removed two of the pressed on connectors to the ribbon cables, and then just > as carefully pressed them back on with the help of a vice and a micrometer. Coo, precision engineering! I do this with a pair of mole grips. > my face... A 1 INCH SPARK ARCED FROM ONE OF THE CONVERTERS... Then... My AARGH! THAT'S where it went! Been looking for that for ages. How did it get to America? Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suggestions for a fast web browser?
On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 12:36:54PM -0800, nate wrote: > Sandip P Deshmukh said: > > > > any suggestions? for both console based as well as gui based browsers are > > welcome. > > > I'm sure you'll hear a lot about phoenix. I use it, it works well, loads > pretty fast. Opera still blows it away in startup time, though opera isn't > as standards compliant(v6 anyways). Both opera and phoenix though seem to > have massive memory leaks, I haven't been able to track down what triggers > them but sometimes I come to my machine and see either of them(they are both > loaded 24/7 on my main machine) using up to 400MB of memory. Opera is > especially buggy on SSL sites. Netscape 4.x in windoze has an unpleasant habit of requesting 400MB of memory about 90% through loading certain web pages. Windoze being what it is, this involves 400MB of disk transfers to the swap file. It may be endemic in mozilla-based browsers. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question for PPP Users
On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 07:58:22PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Pppconfig creates a resolv.conf file in /etc/ppp/resolv for each provider. > The /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0dns-up script moves /etc/resolv.conf out of the way > and the appropriate file from /etc/ppp/resolv in when a ppp connection > comes up. /etc/ppp/ip-down.d moves the original resolv.conf back when ppp > goes down. You can edit the files in /etc/ppp/resolv, customising them by > adding search directives, etc. This allows you to have a resolv.conf > suitable for use when ppp is down, and one customized for each provider > when ppp is up. > > Does anyone use this feature? Would you have used it if you had known > about it? I have /etc/ppp/resolv/ukonline (empty) (DDNS) and /etc/ppp/resolv/waitrose with the waitrose static DNS server addresses in it. Automatically set up by pppconfig. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim and pipe aliases?
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 07:01:28PM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote: > Users don't need to exist. In case exim understands the command line to pipe the mail to as usernames, the mail cannot be delivered to those users if they do not exist. > There's a setting in /etc/exim/exim.conf that tells it what user to > execute the process as. If I put a long sleep in the script I can > see user "mail" or even "robert" executing the script. I've put > some touch commands and debug commands as well in the script and > they get created and with the right ownership. Hm, does that work even in case you get the error message? The message was: > Neither the system_aliases director nor the address_pipe transport > set a uid for local delivery of | /usr/local/bin/Pager.pl 6787586413 Searching for 'address_pipe' in the exim documentation, I've found the following statements (Node: The pipe transport): > The "pipe" transport is used to deliver messages via a pipe to a > command running in another process. This can happen when when a > director explicitly directs a message to a "pipe" transport, and > also when an address is expanded via an alias, > [...] > As "pipe" is a local transport, it is always run in a separate > process, normally under a non-privileged uid and gid. In the common > case, these are the uid and gid belonging to the user whose > `.forward' file directed the message at the pipe. In other cases the > uid and gid have to be specified explicitly, either on the transport > or on the director or router that handled the address. Current and > `home' directories are also controllable. See chapter "Environment > for running local transports" for details of the local delivery > environment. Considering that, my guess is that you either didn't specify the user to run the script as correctly (though you seem to see it running) in the director in the exim configuration, or that the specification is correct, but doesn't work for some reason. Afaics, the user to run the script as *must* exist. If that user does not exist, exim won't be able to find out his UID, what would correspond to the error message you get. Also, it is a possible reason why the specification of the user to execute the script as doesn't work. The first thing I'd try is quoting the command in /etc/aliases as described in my previous mail. The second thing would be to create a ~/.forward file for an existing user as '# Exim filter' and have it pipe all mails sent to that user to your script. You could output some variables from that ~/.forward file to check what becomes of the command, so to get a clue of what happens. What setting did you use to specify the user to run your script as in the exim configuration? In my case, it looks like that: system_aliases: driver = aliasfile file_transport = address_file pipe_transport = address_pipe file = /etc/aliases search_type = lsearch user = listar There's only a user specified in that director, but no group (user 'listar' is in group 'listar'). Nevertheless it works fine. > If I execute the command from CLI by hand everything works the same > except I don't get the failures such as the undefined scheme in > Protocols.pm. I tried setting the scheme, I can even read it and > it's set. Hm? GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave upand went back to Mandrake :-(
> Mandrake 9.0 has GNOME 2 on it, which is cool, and it still has > development tools that I can learn on. Aside from the bad taste > that RPMS leave in peoples' mouths, is Mandrake really THAT bad? I > need more of the basics to understand this stuff. Need to spend > more time in the CLI, and Mandrake can let me do that when I want, > yet give me a functional GUI when I want it. As a former Mandrake user, I would say no it isn't that bad. But, like you, I hate the whole RPM way of dealing with installing programs, so I found Debian to be a perfect match. However, maybe you could try apt-rpm while you're using Mandrake? http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/ It says it's for RedHat, but I've heard of Mandrake users being successful with it. It could make things more bearable for you until you either (a) get a new sound card or (b) figure out how to make your current one work. > I can't help but feel like a bastard, though. I want Debian, Slack, > or Gentoo to work for me, but need to break myself in or I won't > even survive the install. Question: Why are you picking the more advanced distro's automatically? There is no reason to feel bad. You have to get a fundamental knowledge base (as well as have the right hardware.) Do you want them to work for bragging rights or something? Mandrake/RedHat/SuSE *are* user friendly (more so than any of the 3 distro's you listed) but that doesn't mean they're for complete idiots. Take your time ;) Erinn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rate limit exim
This one time, at band camp, Rus Foster said: > Hi, > I've setup a free shell account server and so far so good. One thought > that has come to me though it that I want to try to limit the chance of > someone spamming from the service. As a first step I want to try to rate > limit exim (then I will look at iptables). Looking over the config I can't > see anything obvious and a google doesn't chuck up anything. Can anyone > point me in the right direction? > > Cheers > > Rus Take a look at the various smtp_accept options in /usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz - some combination of those ought to do what you're looking for. It's a long read, but well worth it in the long run. HTH, -- -- | Stephen Gran | "It's not just a computer -- it's your | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ass." -- Cal Keegan | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | | -- msg24676/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
mother board
Dear all, I would like to buy the ASUS A7N8X mother board with an AMD2100, I would like to know if some of you have experience with this board Thanks for your inputs Raymond -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?
"Brooks R. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > | why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > | all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > | long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > | levels that all of you are at? > | > | Just curious... > > Well, yes and no. I have sort of a round about computer history. I got my > first computer when I was 10, a TI-99/4A -- that should date me properly, > and I liked it a lot. I got a Commodore 128 a few years later and learned > assembly. I went to college to become a musician and later sold out my art > for money, I changed to a business major. Got BBA and an MBA, I'm also a > CPA. I'm addicted to college, so I came back to computing and am working on > a MS in CS with 9 hours to go! I've been on debian since bo, and I like to > program in plain old C (if you can't do it in C, it can't or shouldn't be > done). I work as an accountant/systems admin for a manufacturing company. That doesn't sound at all like the Brooks Robinson I'm familiar with ... -- My secret to happiness... is that I have a heart of a 12-year-old boy. It's over here in a jar. Would you like to see it? msg24679/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X11
Paul Winkler wrote: I had a similiar problem with an ATI AIW 8500dv. I ended up upgrading to xfree86 4.2 from 4.1, (which necessitated an upgrade from "Woody" to "Testing") this fixed the problem, I specified the radeon driver. Here is a link to the ATI website where they provide instructions on how to install a binary module in the kernel to support the 9000. http://mirror.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html This however involves an rpm package - the process looked to fraught with danger to me so I chose to upgrade to Xfree86 4.2 instead. Xfree86 4.3 will contain better support for accelerated 3D, but if all you need is 2d Xfree86 4.2 will work fine. Paul Winkler I thought so also, until I read ATI's HOWTO. The RPM converted easily with alien, then I performd a dpkg -i --force-ovrwrite, ran 2 scripts and then their Xfree setup utility. I had my 8500 running in less than 20 min, and that was with compiling a custom module for my 2.4.20 kernel. They are currently supporting X 4.1 and 4.2. I'm using the Radeon 8500 on testing with Xfree 4.2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to Mount Second CDROM Drive?
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Re: Question for PPP Users
Pigeon writes: > I have /etc/ppp/resolv/ukonline (empty) (DDNS) and > /etc/ppp/resolv/waitrose with the waitrose static DNS server addresses in > it. Automatically set up by pppconfig. Yes. I am interested in hearing from people who have edited such files to customize them by adding 'search' lines and the like. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
