sources.list for people.debian.org/~elphick?

[will trillich]

On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:31:11AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 04:14, will trillich wrote:
> > couldn't get the ~elphick/postgresql apt thingie to work, so i'm
> 
> I think that is now fixed.  Please, let me know.

i can't figure out what to put in my sources.list file --
anything i try with "apt-get" seems to insist on there being a
point in the remote repository path that includes a "dists"
directory, and browsing around

http://people.debian.org/~elphick/repository/

i don't find any such "dists/" directory that would make my
apt-get happy. i do find

debian/
stable/
woody/
contrib/
installed/
main/
non-free/

but no "dists/" which my apt seems rather persistent about.
(there's probably some setting i can change, tho, right?)

suggestions (and blitheringly simple pointers i've overlooked)
are welcome. :)

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Trying to CREATE A CRONTAB FOR THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH?  Best
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woody! i made it!

[will trillich]

after a few speed bumps, I'M FINALLY RUNNING WOODY -- and on my
primary server, no less. awesome!

thanks for y'all'uns patience and help. :)

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Trying to LEARN ABOUT DEBIAN? Check out the links here:
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Re: initializing linux partitions after installation

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Thu, 02 Jan 2003 07:56:36AM +, Karsten M. Self insinuated:
> on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:24:40AM -0500, Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
>wrote:
> > so, i did it!  i installed debian from scratch, woo-hoo!  it's now
> > installed, but not configured, so i still have half the work ahead
> > of me ... but thanks to y'all and to debian, it was much easier
> > than i'd expected it to be.
> > 
> > now my question is: during setup and installation, i partitioned
> > off my hard drive into a swap partition /, /usr, /var, /tmp, and
> > /home.  i initialized the swap and the first three of the others,
> > but then i stopped, and moved on to the rest of the installation.
> > now i don't have /tmp or /home initialized or mounted.  how do i
> > go back and do this?
>
>1.  Create the partition (you've done this apparently).
> 
>2.  Create a filesystem on it.  E.g.:  if /dev/hda6 is /home:
> 
>  mke2fs /dev/hda6
> 
>3.  Add an entry to /etc/fstab.
> 
>4.  Mount the filesystem.

perfect, that works like a charm.  google hadn't been any help on this
one ... guess i'd just been phrasing my question wrong.  thanks!

> > what's weirding me out is, having created a user account for
> > myself and logging in, `pwd` says i'm in /home/nori.  how can this
> > be, if i didn't initialize a /home partition?  
> 
> You don't need to create a partition for given mountpoints, you
> *can* do so if you like.  /home/nori is probably on your root
> partition (/).  You can check this with:
> 
> $ cd /home/nori; df .

yup, that's exactly what it was.

> > i mean, i'm going to go back and initialize it and /tmp just as
> > soon as i figure out how, but i'm kind of confused.
> 
> You're doing fine.  The confusion is permanent, its focus shifts
> with time.

:) so i'm seeing.  thanks!



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Re: users and x/gdm

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 03:47:08PM -0500, George Georgalis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Something seems wrong with the archives at the moment...
> 
> 
> I just finished walking remote hands through a not so simple x
> configuration. whew.
> 
> now a user can 'startx' and use the session, but with gdm the session   
> starts then immediately returns to the gdm login.   
> 
> I presume there is a permissions problem here... how do I enable users
> with console access (or users in a group) to access (run) the xserver?

In /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config:

allowed_users=console

You should be able to manage this setting with:

# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common

man 5 Xwrapper.config for more information.

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Re: initializing linux partitions after installation

[Gerald Livingston]

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:56:36 +
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No, but it means you're going to want to move the directory and copy
> its contents to the new mountpoint once you've created it:
> 
> $ sudo bash
> # cd /
> # mv home home-bak
> # mount /home
> # cp -pdR home-bak/* /home
> 

I never created a separate /home partition -- made a 27G /. Decided last
night to clean up and rearrange drives. I've been using /home for all
kinds of storage -- mp3, ogg, local copy of hosted web site, etc. Ended
up having to move 22G of files and put /home on its own 40G drive. 

Don't feel like re-partitioning so now I'm using the extra space in /
for things like /tmp and /var/cache/apt.  

My current drive mess looks like this:

FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdc7 ext3 27G  898M   25G   4% /
/dev/hdc3 ext39.2G  4.8G  4.0G  55% /debian
/dev/hdc1 ext3 19M  4.7M   13M  27% /boot
/dev/hdc5 ext3 14G  6.4G  6.7G  49% /usr
/dev/hdc6 ext34.6G  246M  4.2G   6% /var
/dev/sda1 ext3 17G   33M   17G   1% /scsi
/dev/hda2 ext3 28G   15G   12G  58% /mp3.mov
/dev/hdb1 ext3 37G   22G   14G  62% /home

hda is 40G, hdb is 30G, hdc is 60G, and sda is 18G. Still have some
re-arranging to do, just haven't decided what to move where. I like
having most of my free space in one area. With these drives I suppose I
should go to LVM -- does it allow free space to be concatenated across
physical drives?

Gotta figure out what the heck is sucking up /var too since I have
/var/cache/apt sitting elsewhere.

G

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Re: ArgoUML

[Tom Badran]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 6:05 am, Hanasaki JiJi wrote:
> ArgoUML-0.12 Runs fine on this:
> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.1-b21)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.1-b21, mixed mode)
>
> downloaded and installed directly from java.sun.com

Also works fine with the blackdown debian packages. You might need to edit 
/usr/bin/argouml to set which jvm to use if you have things like gij or kaffe 
installed.

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configuring X with 3D Prophet

[Alberto Stracuzzi]

Hi to everyone.
I know that it isn't fair to send the first mail to a list imploring help... 
but

I installed Debian on my laptop and everything was perfect... So I decided to 
install it on the office dsktop pc (it isn't mine so I can't decide which 
kind of components to use) but I wasn't able to start X.
The pc uses a Hercules 3d Prophet 4500 64MB Ram graphic board.
I tried everything: writing to Hercules and SGS, installing drivers they 
showed me (drivers are not certificated by Hercules and SGS), manually 
configuring the XF86Config with values of Bus PCI... Nothing happened: "No 
screen found"...
I could attach the log file but I don't hate you and I didn't want to bore 
the list...

Simply: anyone did it with success and did he/she write me?

Alberto


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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[Kevin]

- Original Message -
From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0


> on Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 10:32:20PM -0800, Kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
> >
> >
> > > on Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:35:02PM -0800, Kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> > > > Please can you help with this error?
> > > > Below is the log, env and .bashrc
> > > >
> > > > DISPLAY=debian:0.0;export DISPLAY
>
> <...>
>
> > > More useful information:
> > >
> > >   - What command are you running?
> > >   - What is the *exact* error message?
> > >   - How is your root session executing?
>
> You didn't answer this question.  Are you logged in directly as root, or
> did you run 'su' or 'sudo' from another userid?
>
> > >   - Are you local or remote on this box?
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are logged in as a nonprivileged user, are 'su'd or 'sudo'd to
> > > root, and are attempting to run an X client, try specifying the local
> > > display *and* merging xauth records, as root:
> > >
> > > # export DISPLAY=
> > > # xauth merge ~//.Xauthority
>
> > make xconfig
> > cannot open display: debian:0.0
> > root
> > local
>
> That's a bit terser than is useful.
>
> Are you *logged in as root, directly, on an X display?*  I doubt it.
>
> The solution I suggested previously should work.  Try it and report
> results.
>
> Peace.
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make xconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts kconfig.tk
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/scripts'
cat header.tk >> ./kconfig.tk
./tkparse < ../arch/i386/config.in >> kconfig.tk
echo "set defaults \"arch/i386/defconfig\"" >> kconfig.tk
echo "set ARCH \"i386\"" >> kconfig.tk
cat tail.tk >> kconfig.tk
chmod 755 kconfig.tk
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/scripts'
wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
Application initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
"10.100.4.2:0.0"
Error in startup script: invalid command name "button"
while executing
"button .ref"
(file "scripts/kconfig.tk" line 51)
make: *** [xconfig] Error 1

Yes I was login directly as root

Kevin


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[no subject]

[Kevin . Bewley]

Hi,
   I know this is an old one but I can't find anything on Google. I have an
old S3 Aurora64V+ Videocard in my laptop and wish to use the vesafb to get
the lovely penguin and a 800x600 console. I'm pretty sure the card doesn't
support VESA 2.0 (only VESA 1.2) but I was told that there was a patch I
could apply to the kernel source prior to compilation that will sort this
out.

Is this true?

Where can I get the patch and some instruction on how to apply it?

Oh yes, I'd need a patch for Kernel version 2.4.20 if possible as that is
what I'm running at the moment. If it's any help the laptop I'm using is a
Compaq Armada 7350MT.

Cheers,
Kevin



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Re: initializing linux partitions after installation

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi, 

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:56:36AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> No, but it means you're going to want to move the directory and copy its
> contents to the new mountpoint once you've created it:
> 
> $ sudo bash
> # cd /
> # mv home home-bak
> # mount /home
> # cp -pdR home-bak/* /home

It works for /home since it usually does not have any filename starting
with "." period in it.

For the the last line of the example, I would use a command line:

# cp -pdR home-bak/. /home

or using equivalent and easy to remember "archive" option:

   # cp -a home-bak/. /home

This ensures that everything gets copied including file names starting
with period.

Cheers :)

Osamu
PS: without "/." after home-bak, /home/home-bak/is created.
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Re: Unofficial Debian package management

[Frank Copeland]

On 26 Dec 02 15:00:22 GMT, David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been using mini-dinstall to maintain a small private repository
> (mostly with my custom-compiled kernels).  You can add other things to
> it, but it wants a full source package with a .changes file, which
> means pretending to be a developer and building the package from
> source yourself.

How are you creating custom kernel packages with .changes files? I've
been unable to work out how to do it with kernel-package and make-kpkg.

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Timing a program run?

[Gerald Livingston]

OK -- dumb question that I can't remember the answer to and can't find
by googling.

How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?

I've searched the archives and google and apropos and apt-cache on all
kinds of variations of "time" (timing, timer, etc) and can't find
anything.

Do I need to write a 'date +%s' in to the beginning and end of the
script and do the math when it finishes?

Another dumb bash question later if I can't figure it out.

G

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Re: Timing a program run?

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?

This isn't shell specific.  And you're probably going to have to get a
surgeon to remove your hand from your forhead from hitting it so
hard.  8:o)

time 


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Re: Timing a program run?

[Thomas Krennwallner]

Hi!

On Thu Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, the boisterous
Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote to me:
> How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?

$ time app

so long
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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[Kevin]

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0


>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
>
>
> > on Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 10:32:20PM -0800, Kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
> > >
> > >
> > > > on Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:35:02PM -0800, Kevin
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Please can you help with this error?
> > > > > Below is the log, env and .bashrc
> > > > >
> > > > > DISPLAY=debian:0.0;export DISPLAY
> >
> > <...>
> >
> > > > More useful information:
> > > >
> > > >   - What command are you running?
> > > >   - What is the *exact* error message?
> > > >   - How is your root session executing?
> >
> > You didn't answer this question.  Are you logged in directly as root, or
> > did you run 'su' or 'sudo' from another userid?
> >
> > > >   - Are you local or remote on this box?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you are logged in as a nonprivileged user, are 'su'd or 'sudo'd
to
> > > > root, and are attempting to run an X client, try specifying the
local
> > > > display *and* merging xauth records, as root:
> > > >
> > > > # export DISPLAY=
> > > > # xauth merge ~//.Xauthority
> >
> > > make xconfig
> > > cannot open display: debian:0.0
> > > root
> > > local
> >
> > That's a bit terser than is useful.
> >
> > Are you *logged in as root, directly, on an X display?*  I doubt it.
> >
> > The solution I suggested previously should work.  Try it and report
> > results.
> >
> > Peace.
> >
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> make xconfig
> rm -f include/asm
> ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
> make -C scripts kconfig.tk
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/scripts'
> cat header.tk >> ./kconfig.tk
> ./tkparse < ../arch/i386/config.in >> kconfig.tk
> echo "set defaults \"arch/i386/defconfig\"" >> kconfig.tk
> echo "set ARCH \"i386\"" >> kconfig.tk
> cat tail.tk >> kconfig.tk
> chmod 755 kconfig.tk
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/scripts'
> wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
> Application initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
> "10.100.4.2:0.0"
> Error in startup script: invalid command name "button"
> while executing
> "button .ref"
> (file "scripts/kconfig.tk" line 51)
> make: *** [xconfig] Error 1
>
> Yes I was login directly as root
>
> Kevin
>
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FYI
If I try xhost +localhost
xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"

Kevin


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Re: Timing a program run?

[sean finney]

heya,

how about... "time"?  i think it outputs the timing information
to stderr after it has finished running the app.  it's funny
all your searching didn't show that up :)  for future reference,
"man -k keyword" is another good place to look.


sean

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> OK -- dumb question that I can't remember the answer to and can't find
> by googling.
> 
> How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?
> 
> I've searched the archives and google and apropos and apt-cache on all
> kinds of variations of "time" (timing, timer, etc) and can't find
> anything.
> 
> Do I need to write a 'date +%s' in to the beginning and end of the
> script and do the math when it finishes?
> 
> Another dumb bash question later if I can't figure it out.
> 
> G
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Re: Timing a program run?

[Elijah]

> > How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?
> 
> $ time app

Oh, sorry about that. I suggested 'cron'. my mistake. I thought you want
to schedule that script of something ^o^

Elijah


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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[James Tappin]

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
"Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> FYI
> If I try xhost +localhost
> xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"
> 

3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
xhost +debian # as the original user
or:
export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
or even:
ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su

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Re: Timing a program run?

[Gerald Livingston]

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:07:03 -0800
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> > How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?
> 
> This isn't shell specific.  And you're probably going to have to get a
> surgeon to remove your hand from your forhead from hitting it so
> hard.  8:o)
> 
> time 

Where the heck is that documented, and where is the "time" command *AT*?

I typed 'time' at the prompt and got a "syntax error near unexpected
token `newline'" 

I did a "locate n/time" looking for "time" in a "*bin/" directory --
not there.

I searched "man bash-builtins" -- not there.

AHHH -- there it is, in "man bash" buried in "SHELL GRAMMAR -->
Pipelines", where it doesn't stand out at all. 



I knew it was simple, just brain dead at 0400.

Thanks

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PCAnywhere and IPCHAINS

[Simon Tneoh Chee-Boon]

Hello all,
   Thanks in advance for any helps.
I've searched through the internet to find information on how to allow
PCAnywhere connection from external interface into an internal server
under ipchains' control.
   The server running the ipchains has MASQ running on it already, the
internal servers are able to communicate with external SMTP and DNS
servers.
   I've executed the following commands:
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L externalip 5631 -R internalip 5631
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L externalip 5631 -R internalip 5631
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L externalip 5632 -R internalip 5632
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L externalip 5632 -R internalip 5632
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 5631 5632 -h internalip
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r udp 5631 5632 -h internalip
   And for ipchains, I've allow 5631 and 5632 connection from the
external
interface, I even log it and able to see the connection accepted in the
syslog.
   But I keep getting timeouted in PCAnywhere when try to connect to
the external IP, I'm not sure how to check whether the connection being
redirected to the internal server or not.
   What else did I miss out here?

Thanks.

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Re: Timing a program run?

[bda]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> OK -- dumb question that I can't remember the answer to and can't find
> by googling.
> 
> How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?
> 
> I've searched the archives and google and apropos and apt-cache on all
> kinds of variations of "time" (timing, timer, etc) and can't find
> anything.

`time '

It's a bash built-in, at least for 

bda@eos:~$ bash --version
GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu)

This is the second hit I get from googling for `bash time built-in':
http://www.ss64.demon.co.uk/bash/time.html

...

bda@eos:~$ time ls -lF
total 32
drwxr-xr-x   15 bda  bda  4096 Jan  1 05:41 Endymion/
drwx--2 bda  bda  4096 Dec 17 08:21 Mail/
drwxr-xr-x6 root root 4096 Dec 21 17:39 Media/
drwxr-xr-x3 bda  bda  4096 Dec 17 16:37 bin/
drwx--3 bda  bda  4096 Dec 30 02:52 etc/
drwxr-sr-x7 bda  bda  4096 Dec 25 22:03 img/
drwxr-xr-x6 bda  bda  4096 Jan  2 05:01 tmp/
drwxr-sr-x   13 bda  bda  4096 Dec 28 16:31 txt/

real0m0.005s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.010s

...

Other shells, YMMV.
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Re: Timing a program run?

[Eric G. Miller]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:31:39AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:07:03 -0800
> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> > > How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to run?
> > 
> > This isn't shell specific.  And you're probably going to have to get a
> > surgeon to remove your hand from your forhead from hitting it so
> > hard.  8:o)
> > 
> > time 
> 
> Where the heck is that documented, and where is the "time" command *AT*?
> 
> I typed 'time' at the prompt and got a "syntax error near unexpected
> token `newline'" 
> 
> I did a "locate n/time" looking for "time" in a "*bin/" directory --
> not there.
> 
> I searched "man bash-builtins" -- not there.
> 
> AHHH -- there it is, in "man bash" buried in "SHELL GRAMMAR -->
> Pipelines", where it doesn't stand out at all. 

No. You probably want the time program in package "time".  It'll live at
/usr/bin/time.

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[OT] Cleaning up the output of a multiple file rename (bash)

[Gerald Livingston]

OK, I asked about timing my script because I'm renaming multiple files
using "date +%s" as the base for the new name. I was using a "sleep 1"
in the script to keep the filenames unique because it runs through them
much faster than 1 per second. Too slow if I get a LOT of files. So I
dug around and figured out how to add an incrementing integer as the
last part of the filename.

My problem is that if a particular file extension does NOT exist there
is output to the screen indicating this fact. The new filenames are
being sent to a text file and the output goes there too. I would like to
know how to suppress all output when there is no file to rename.

What I am doing is setting up a script so that HTML/FTP "dumb" users on
an auto-related mailing list that I'm on can send photos as attachments
to a specific email address I have set up. The attachments are split out
by procmail/metamail into a temp directory. The script I'm writing will
rename all the attachments, ftp them to a web folder I will set up, then
generate an email back to the list containing the original TEXT body of
the message accompanying the images plus links to the images themselves.

I also need to figure out how to drop the leading directory name from
the filename when I echo it out to the "links" file though I can script
around that too and clean it up with search/replace after it's
generated. Suppose I could delete the *.xxx lines that way too -- but I
should be able to do it cleanly from the start, right?

The script plus the output and what is echoed to my "links" text file
are below, any assistance appreciated.

Forgive the wrapping, all of the for...done commands are actually on a
single line for each.

G

$username$:cat names
#!/bin/bash

typeset -i a=1
for i in /home/username/metatemp/*.{jpg,JPG}; 
do mmv "$i" /home/username/metatemp/`date +%s`-$a.jpg; 
a=a+1; done

a=1
for i in /home/username/metatemp/*.{gif,GIF}; 
do mmv "$i" /home/username/metatemp/`date +%s`-$a.gif; 
a=a+1; done

a=1
for i in /home/username/metatemp/*.{bmp,BMP}; 
do mmv "$i" /home/username/metatemp/`date +%s`-$a.bmp; 
a=a+1; done

for i in /home/username/metatemp/*.{jpg,JPG,gif,GIF,bmp,BMP}; 
do echo "http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage/$i"; >>
/home/username/metatemp/links; done

**
$username$:time ./names
/home/username/metatemp/*.JPG ->
/home/username/metatemp/1041504285-6.jpg : no match. Nothing done.
/home/username/metatemp/*.gif ->
/home/username/metatemp/1041504285-1.gif : no match. Nothing done.
/home/username/metatemp/*.GIF ->
/home/username/metatemp/1041504285-2.gif : no match. Nothing done.
/home/username/metatemp/*.bmp ->
/home/username/metatemp/1041504285-1.bmp : no match. Nothing done.
/home/username/metatemp/*.BMP ->
/home/username/metatemp/1041504285-2.bmp : no match. Nothing done.

real0m0.102s
user0m0.020s
sys 0m0.040s
**
$username$:cat links
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/1041504285-1.jpg
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/1041504285-2.jpg
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/1041504285-3.jpg
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/1041504285-4.jpg
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/1041504285-5.jpg
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/*.JPG
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/*.gif
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/*.GIF
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/*.bmp
http://www.phorce1.com/hvwcimage//home/username/metatemp/*.BMP

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Re: bash guru wanted

[Michael Naumann]

02.01.2003 00:52:05, Thorsten Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>* Michael Naumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-02 00:33]:
>>I want my bash to obey eof (^D) only if there are no jobs in the background.
>
>I can't help you with the Bash, but I recommend the Zsh. The Zsh warns
>you if you have running jobs, and only exits if you give the command a
>second time. You may also disown the process running in the background
>and exit anyway.

Thanx for your tip,
But this would not help me. As I stated, the warning is also issued by bash
and disowning jobs is also possible.

Thanx anyway, Michael



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Re: Timing a program run?

[Gerald Livingston]

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:46:19 -0800
"Eric G. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:31:39AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:07:03 -0800
> > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:57:10AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> > > > How the heck do I time how long it takes a certain script to
> > > > run?
> > > 
> > > This isn't shell specific.  And you're probably going to have to
> > > get a surgeon to remove your hand from your forhead from hitting
> > > it so hard.  8:o)
> > > 
> > > time 
> > 

> > AHHH -- there it is, in "man bash" buried in "SHELL GRAMMAR -->
> > Pipelines", where it doesn't stand out at all. 
> 
> No. You probably want the time program in package "time".  It'll live
> at/usr/bin/time.

No, I don't have the 'time' package installed (which is why 'locate'
didn't find it) and using "time command" works fine. It's listed in "man
bash" as mentioned above as "The reserved word 'time'".

G

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which files can be safely deleted?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

hello all

my debian computer is doing fine. every day i am rediscovering more
efficient ways of using the resources available.

after doing the installation, i ran deborphan and removed all
unnecessary packages. then i checked in /home/sandip and deleted all
unwanted stuff in terms of configuration files, etc.

i know that /tmp and /var/run is cleared every time i boot up.

i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i
can delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim
keeps a log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?

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Re: which files can be safely deleted?

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:51:14PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i
> can delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim
> keeps a log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?

Install deborphan and run it every once in a while.  Every few months
it probably doesn't hurt to have it scrap the keeper file.  This will
trim the fat among debian packages.

On my system at least, /usr/src occasionally bloats to ungodly
proportions if I've been doing a lot of stuff by hand.

/usr/local/ will get up there, too, if you install commercial software
(like games from id Software or Loki Linux Entertainment[1]).

If /var/log is building up larger than you are comfortable with, check
out the logrotate documentation to automate trimming things down a bit
more.


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servers running.  http://www.lokigames.com/ has thier old website
frozen in time and ftp://ftp.lokigames.com/ has the Linux binaries for
many games.  Might want to check with them if you've got a game
published by someone other than id that's more than about 15 months
old as of the time of this writing and see if it's there.  If it is,
download the appropriate version and buy the Windows version; be sure
to tell the publisher you're purchasing it to run on Linux when you
send in the registration card to help them gauge demand.

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Re: which files can be safely deleted?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:33:15AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:51:14PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> > i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i
> > can delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim
> > keeps a log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?
> 
> Install deborphan and run it every once in a while.  Every few months
> it probably doesn't hurt to have it scrap the keeper file.  This will
> trim the fat among debian packages.

oh sure. i am already doing that.

> On my system at least, /usr/src occasionally bloats to ungodly
> proportions if I've been doing a lot of stuff by hand.

i do not do any programming. /usr/src is empty! or compilation, etc.

> /usr/local/ will get up there, too, if you install commercial software
> (like games from id Software or Loki Linux Entertainment[1]).

i do not do this either. :)

> If /var/log is building up larger than you are comfortable with, check
> out the logrotate documentation to automate trimming things down a bit
> more.

sure. i will do this. i had been manually trimming my logfiles so far.


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Re: Which to upgrade first?

[ajlewis2]

In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> 
> 
>   Quick question.  I have been slowly (but surely) fine tuning my install
> of Debian (Woody stock--not the upgrade...yet).  I finally redid my
> kernel to 2.4.18 to enable various things (like sound).  But I have an
> nvidia card (yea, here we go again).  
> 
>   Should I upgrade to XFree86 4.2 unstable or testing *before* I mess
> with the nvidia kernel stuff?  Also, will the upgrade to 4.2 mess with
> the rest of my stable Woody install?
> 
>   Thanx.
> 

I just did this and it worked fine.  I have 2.4.7 kernel, but Woody.  I put
in a new video card - nvidia and needed the driver.  Someone told me to get
X4.2.  I used 'apt-get xfree86-common xserver-xfree86' after 'apt-get
update' with testing in sources.list.  Then I installed the nvidia kernel
and glx.  I don't think it would matter, but I did it after upgrading X.
This process didn't mess up the rest of my install.

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Re: bash guru wanted

[Thorsten Haude]

Hi,

* Michael Naumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-02 12:12]:
>02.01.2003 00:52:05, Thorsten Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[Zsh]
>
>Thanx for your tip,
>But this would not help me. As I stated, the warning is also issued by bash
>and disowning jobs is also possible.

Ah, sorry, I didn't read the details you wrote about the bash, because
I rerely use it.


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Re: IDE SCSI Emulation and USB problem

[ernst]

You could try something like this in your modules.conf:

pre-install ide-scsi modprobe imm

/ernst


On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Martin McCormick wrote:

>   I have been doing some further tests about my usb
> problems and I found out that my testing procedure is flawed.
> Every new kernel I built was built using bzdisk as the last step
> in the process so I left the kernel on my boot drive alone and
> was using a new kernel built on a floppy disk.  I believe that
> that kernel uses a different lilo.conf file because that was part
> of the reason why I see no SCSI emulation for the IDE CDROM.
>
>   I bit the bullet and built a new kernel with the IDE SCSI
> emulation as before and the usb port mass storage driver support.
>
>   This time, I still have the CDROM as /dev/sr0 or
> /dev/scd0 so that is good.  What I still don't seem to have is
> anything happening with the usb port and mass-storage driver.
>
>   The syslog shows that the usb drivers installed,
> registered and initialized, but there are no new devices.
>
>   I am testing a new Maxtor 5000 LE external drive with
> this system so I have the two unknowns of the new usb
> installation plus the new drive which may or may not work with
> Linux.  The drive works with Windows and Mac OSX so it is not
> known whether or not it will work here.
>
>   Shouldn't there be some kind of dialog regarding the usb
> activity when the system boots besides the simple fact that the
> usb support is there?
>
>   I even temporarily took out the append command in
> lilo.conf that maps /dev/hdc to scsi and the SCSI did go away.
> The usb support, however, does not appear to have added any new
> devices with the only thing at all being a usb directory in
> /proc/bus which is empty.
>
>   Does it matter which usb port I connect to on the
> mother board?
>
>   Many thanks.
>
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Sony USB streaming digital cameras and Debian

[mody]

Hello!
As happy Debian user, I would like to capture videos from my new Sony
digital camera. It supports USB streaming. When I plug the camera, hotplug
founds it and says:

kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 2
kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x54c/0x45) is not claimed by any active driver.
/etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup audio for USB product 54c/45/0
kernel: usb.c: registered new driver audio
kernel: usbaudio: device 2 audiocontrol interface 1 has 1 input and 0 output
AudioStreaming interfaces
kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 16000
kernel: usbaudio: device 2 interface 2 altsetting 1: format 0x8010 sratelo
16000 sratehi 16000 attributes 0x00
kernel: usbaudio: registered dsp 14,35
kernel: usbaudio: constructing mixer for Terminal 2 type 0x0101
kernel: usbaudio: no mixer controls found for Terminal 2
kernel: usb_audio_parsecontrol: usb_audio_state at d6c15440
kernel: audio.c: v1.0.0:USB Audio Class driver
/etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usbcam for USB product 54c/45/0

I googled a lot, but found nothing. Can anyone help?

Of course I can buy TV capture card, but why when there is easy USB connection.

Thanks

Patrik



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Re: which files can be safely deleted?

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 06:39, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:33:15AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:51:14PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> > > i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i
> > > can delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim
> > > keeps a log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?
> > 
> > Install deborphan and run it every once in a while.  Every few months
> > it probably doesn't hurt to have it scrap the keeper file.  This will
> > trim the fat among debian packages.
> 
> oh sure. i am already doing that.
> 
> > On my system at least, /usr/src occasionally bloats to ungodly
> > proportions if I've been doing a lot of stuff by hand.
> 
> i do not do any programming. /usr/src is empty! or compilation, etc.
> 
> > /usr/local/ will get up there, too, if you install commercial software
> > (like games from id Software or Loki Linux Entertainment[1]).
> 
> i do not do this either. :)
> 
> > If /var/log is building up larger than you are comfortable with, check
> > out the logrotate documentation to automate trimming things down a bit
> > more.
> 
> sure. i will do this. i had been manually trimming my logfiles so far.
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
>  
> sandip p deshmukh
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I'd also add one package: cruft

This takes a while to run, but it goes through the entire system and
reports stuff that wasn't put on the machine as part of the currently
installed packages - things such as outdated configuration files,
misplaced files and the like. It doesn't complain about what is in
/home, so users' stuff shouldn't be part of the list (unless it is
grotesquely misplaced.) Now, if you are installing stuff outside the
apt-get/dpkg/alien package management, those will show up on this list.
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Re: Automatic timeout in enlightenment?

[Larry Hunsicker]

Thanks to Colin Watson and others.  I think that the "automatic timeout"
was a bug.  Now that I have recompiled the kernel and gotten nVidia
working properly on my system, the "automatic timeout has disappeared.
I have no idea, of course, what the bug was, or where.  But it's gone
with a kernel recompile.

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Re: Another query on NVIDIA under linux 2.4.20

[Dave W]

On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 23:46, Larry Hunsicker wrote:
> We have NVIDIA working now under linux 2.4.20 as I described in an
> earlier message.  But there remains one glitch.   When we reboot, the
> NVIDIA drivers are never loaded, and NVIDIA won't run, until we
> reinstall the NVIDIA kernel by hand.
> 
> I suppose that we could force the loading of NVIDIA using modprobe
> somewhere in one of the inti.d files.  But it would have seemed that
> this should have been done by the NVIDIA kernel install process or
> kmod.  Any comments about this?

Only that it sounds really familiar.  The same thing happened to me.  I downloaded 
tar.gz files, did make clean / make install / changed XF86Config-4 and made sure 
nvidia was in /etc/modules, and it STILL requires that I make install the kernel
driver each boot.  I wish I knew the solution for those of us who are used to doing
the NVidia driver the make-install way.

dave w


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Getting nVidia to load

[Larry Hunsicker]

Thanks to Sean Finney and Bill Moseley;

Indeed, adding the single line "nvidia" to the /etc/modules file gets
the module loaded at boot time.

An alternative, if one only wants to load nvidia at certain times, is to
run:
/sbin/modprobe nvidia

I am not sure why, in my setup, the nvidia kernel "make install" didn't
add the line to /etc/modules.  The nVidia folks may not have wanted to
force this at boot up.  But their documentation probably should note
that one needs to add this line to get the module loaded automatically.

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Re: Re jigdo files for 3.0r1

[Johann Spies]

On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 01:41:23AM +1100, bob parker wrote:
> Anybody know where I can find the jigdo files for 3.0r1?

http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/current/jigdo/

Regards.
Johann
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Re: sources.list for people.debian.org/~elphick?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:14:19AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:31:11AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 04:14, will trillich wrote:
> > > couldn't get the ~elphick/postgresql apt thingie to work, so i'm
> > 
> > I think that is now fixed.  Please, let me know.
> 
> i can't figure out what to put in my sources.list file --
> anything i try with "apt-get" seems to insist on there being a
> point in the remote repository path that includes a "dists"
> directory,

If you omit the components (main, contrib, non-free, etc.) and end the
distribution part of the sources.list line with a slash, then apt will
not try to add 'dists'.

>   debian/
>   stable/
>   woody/
>   contrib/
>   installed/
>   main/
>   non-free/

For example:

  deb http://people.debian.org/~elphick/repository/debian woody/main/

It might do no harm for Oliver to add a 'dists' symlink pointing to
'debian' there, though, since the repository is laid out with
components. Otherwise you're going to need several sources.list lines if
you want contrib and non-free as well.

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gkrellm & /dev/isdninfo

[mody]

Hi,
got strange problem. Gkrellm can't read /dev/isdninfo when I'm connected
through my ISDN line.

I've found that:
- head -n 6 /dev/isdninfo works connected or not.
- cat /dev/isdninfo works only when not connected.
- gkrellm's net builtin reads /dev/isdninfo only when not connected.

code from gkrellm's net.c that fails when connected:

for (i = 0; i < 5; i++)
{
if (fgets (buffer, BUFSIZ, f) == NULL)
{
fclose (f);
return FALSE;
}
}

It fails reading the first line.

I remember, that not long time ago gkrellm worked well...

Patrik



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Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks why?

[Walter Tautz [MFCF]]

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 05:53:41PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > "After nearly two years of development, we are happy to announce the
> > release of GNU Mailman 2.1."
> >
> > How soon can be expect it to show up in testing?
>
> A while from now.  If you want the bleeding edge, go to unstable.
>
> Oh, by the way, I know everybody's heard me knock Gnome and KDE for
> the last few years, but Gnome 2.0 rocks the house.  It actually got me
> to convert away from afterstep.
>
> KDE still sucks.

I'd love to hear an analysis of why gnome2 rocks and kde does not. Perhaps
others would like to read about it :-)

Walter

>
> --
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Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks why?

[CaT]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 09:24:10AM -0500, Walter Tautz [MFCF] wrote:
> > KDE still sucks.
> 
> I'd love to hear an analysis of why gnome2 rocks and kde does not. Perhaps
> others would like to read about it :-)

Oh for the love of god! Should I put this thread in my twitfilter now?

-- 
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But some are more equal then others.
- George W. Bush Jr, President of the United States
  September 21, 2002 (Abridged version of security speech)


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Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks why?

[Walter Tautz [MFCF]]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, CaT wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 09:24:10AM -0500, Walter Tautz [MFCF] wrote:
> > > KDE still sucks.
> >
> > I'd love to hear an analysis of why gnome2 rocks and kde does not. Perhaps
> > others would like to read about it :-)
>
> Oh for the love of god! Should I put this thread in my twitfilter now?
>
> --
> All people are equal,
> But some are more equal then others.
> - George W. Bush Jr, President of the United States
>   September 21, 2002 (Abridged version of security speech)
>
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The intent was to get an analysis of the differencesalas this probably was
a bad idea since these kind of things usually don't end up being an analysis
but a contest who sucks least sigh


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I can't install KDE3 on debian sarge

[Richard PAVY]

I added

ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5a/Debian/woody/

 

In the sources.list
file but “apt-get install kde” with root privileges
(I’m using debian sarge,
it shouldn’t be any harder than that???)

Doesn’t seen to work. It says :

 

server:~# apt-get install kde

Reading Package Lists... Done

Building Dependency Tree... Done

Some packages could not be
installed. This may mean that you have

requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
unstable

distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

or been moved out of Incoming.

 

Since you only requested a
single operation it is extremely likely that

the package is simply not installable and a bug report
against

that package should be filed.

The following information may
help to resolve the situation:

 

Sorry, but the following
packages have unmet dependencies:

  kde:
Depends: kdelibs3 but it is not going to be installed

   Depends: libarts
or

    libarts-alsa but it is not going to be installed or

   
libarts-bin but it is not installable

   Depends: libkmid
or

    libkmid-alsa but it is not going to be installed or

    libkmid-bin but it is not
installable

   Depends: kdebase
but it is not going to be installed or

    kdebase3
but it is not installable

   Depends: kdebase-audiolibs
but it is not going to be installed or

    kdebase3-audiolibs
but it is not installable

   Depends: kdebase-libs
but it is not going to be installed or

    kdebase3-libs
but it is not installable

   Depends: kdebase-doc
but it is not going to be installed or

    kdebase3-doc
but it is not installable

   Depends: kab
but it is not going to be installed

   Depends: kpm
but it is not going to be installed

   Depends: koffice
but it is not going to be installed

E: Sorry, broken packages

server:~#

 

but what’s more, an “apt-cache showpkg kde” says I’m
installing kde 2.2.25 or so while I need kde3. Anyone
help me ??!!

 

Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks why?

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 09:24:10AM -0500, Walter Tautz [MFCF] wrote:
> I'd love to hear an analysis of why gnome2 rocks and kde does not. Perhaps
> others would like to read about it :-)

KDE gets in my way in all the same ways Windows does.  This is a Bad
Thing.  This has nothing to do with what theme or wm I'm using in KDE,
KDE just seems to be overly grandious about providing a freaking
desktop environment.  The KDE menu is also organized very bizarrely
(for someone coming from straight-out AfterStep).  

I've been using computers since I was 8, and I started on a VAX where
my father was the sysadmin.  I, of all people, should not be
overwhelmed by KDE.  Simplify it, folks!  KDE is so baroque, it
wouldn't surprise me if it pisses off Windows users, and you've seen
what kind of interfacial abuse they subject themselves to.

There is very little I can't change in sawfish or gnome as far as
sawfish or gnome are concerned in more than five mouse clicks.

However, one thing that tweaks me about both DEs, still, is that they
go out and clone xterm.  Uuh, why?  And why make it as ugly and only
slightly more useful than Windows Telnet?  I realise that DE's are
supposed to be most helpful for newbies, but *jeeze*, I have to wonder
if anybody stopped for a moment and thought that maybe unleashing
something as garish and stubborn as Windows Telnet on the Linux
community isn't the right thing to do.

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Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]

[Elijah]

Hi!

It took me awhile to download new modutils, binutils, 2.4.20 kernel
sources, etc. etc. .compile etc .. .. none worked for me. 

Then I searched all over forums, /usr/share/docs/, sites, etc. and found
a suggestion to use the kernel-headers. I downloaded the
kernel-headers.2.4.18.deb, untarred itself to /usr/src/, 'make install'
the nvidia-kernels .. and it WORKED! ahhh that felt good ^.^ ... 

Compiling the kernel-source didn't help much so using the kernel-headers
did it for me ... wow ... I've lost a ton of sleep on this one.


Thanks very much to those who helped :)
Elijah


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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[Kevin]

- Original Message -
From: "James Tappin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0


> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
> "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > FYI
> > If I try xhost +localhost
> > xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"
> >
>
> 3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
> xhost +debian # as the original user
> or:
> export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
> or even:
> ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su
>
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   --  \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering
> http://www.tappin.me.uk/with data loss in it I fancy"
>
>
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Same on all 3

unable to open display


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Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks why?

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:53, Walter Tautz [MFCF] wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, CaT wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 09:24:10AM -0500, Walter Tautz [MFCF] wrote:
> > > > KDE still sucks.
> > >
> > > I'd love to hear an analysis of why gnome2 rocks and kde does not. Perhaps
> > > others would like to read about it :-)
> >
> > Oh for the love of god! Should I put this thread in my twitfilter now?
> >
> > --
> > All people are equal,
> > But some are more equal then others.
> > - George W. Bush Jr, President of the United States
> >   September 21, 2002 (Abridged version of security speech)
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> 
> The intent was to get an analysis of the differencesalas this probably was
> a bad idea since these kind of things usually don't end up being an analysis
> but a contest who sucks least sigh

My own observation is that each desktop environment and window manager
is built with its own philosophy and design values, traded off with
programming and design ability extended to the development. Peoples'
preferences as to what they themselves use draws from their own
priorities of what matters to them individually - be it speed, size,
visual strengths or weaknesses, intuitive functionality, and choice of
tools. Those that don't fit as much with one's own relative weighting of
these values might be seen to be of increased "suckiness" ;)

That means twm may be the cat's meow for some, while someone else wants
Gnome on KDE with XPWE. Me, I run Gnome2 rather than KDE simply because
I prefer the look and feel, and the ability to load up panels with
applets - and since I run many gtk applications, many of the libraries
that Gnome calls upon are already loaded. Some non-Gnome applications
also call on gtk libraries, while I'm not familiar as yet of any non-KDE
program calling on KDE libraries, outside of the QT toolkit (which isn't
*really* KDE specific.) If I did use KDE applications, I'd probably be
of a moderately different view, but currently, none of them are on my
"favorites" list - that may change in the future.

Does that mean it sucks? Nah - not to someone like me that still likes
OpenWindows and FVWM in their own ways ;)
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Re: PCAnywhere and IPCHAINS

[nate]

Simon Tneoh Chee-Boon said:
>
>I've executed the following commands:
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L externalip 5631 -R internalip 5631
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L externalip 5631 -R internalip 5631
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L externalip 5632 -R internalip 5632
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L externalip 5632 -R internalip 5632
> ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 5631 5632 -h internalip
> ipmasqadm autofw -A -r udp 5631 5632 -h internalip


why are you doing both autofw and portfw? I would just use portfw.

Also be sure when your connecting to externalip you do so from
OUTSIDE the NAT network. my experience is that you cannot connect to
the external interface of a port forwarded system from behind the
same NAT that forwards it. Nor can you connect to the port forwarded
system on the external ip from the NAT box itself.

nate






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Re: mrtg and snmpd

[nate]

James Vahn said:
>  What misfortune has befallen these previously fine packages?
> Snmpd has become so confusing and hogtied that it no longer performs any
> function at all.. Does anyone know why?


not really, but when was snmp NOT confusing and hogtied ? I've never known
it not to be confusing.

interesting command though, never heard of it myself, I usually just edit
the .conf file directly.

since you mention MRTG I'll mention my MRTG howto:

http://howto.aphroland.de/HOWTO/MRTG

nate




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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:20:24AM -0800, Kevin wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "James Tappin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:27 AM
> Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
> > "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > FYI
> > > If I try xhost +localhost
> > > xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"
> > >
> >
> > 3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
> > xhost +debian # as the original user
> > or:
> > export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
> > or even:
> > ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su
> >
> > --
> > James Tappin, O__  "I forget the punishment for using
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   --  \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering
> > http://www.tappin.me.uk/with data loss in it I fancy"
> >
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> Same on all 3

try DISPLAY=:0
(localhost==127.0.0.1==IP, while :0 uses unix sockets; and debian defaults
to not listen on IP ports)

Frank
> 
> unable to open display
> 
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Re: which files can be safely deleted?

[nate]

Sandip P Deshmukh said:

> i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i can
> delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim keeps a
> log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?

if your that tight on space you may not need documentation, so I
would say remove any *doc packages you have as well as manpages then
erase /usr/share/man and /usr/share/doc that is 74MB worth of data on
my system here. It would be better to remove this then to remove log files.
You could also configure logrotate to rotate logs out of existance faster.
Also /usr/share/info can go (remove any info related packages first)

use dpkg -S /path/to/file to find packages that are associated with
certain files.

but the documentation is the best stuff to delete, most of it is
available online anyways. a quick search reveals that debian manual
pages are available here:
http://www.math.u-szeged.hu/dwww/

looks like general docs from /usr/share/doc are there as well. I don't
know if this is a private site or public, or if it may go away in
the future though.

nate




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Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]

[Elijah]

Hi!

It took me awhile to download new modutils, binutils, 2.4.20 kernel
sources, etc. etc. .compile etc .. .. none worked for me. 

Then I searched all over forums, /usr/share/docs/, sites, etc. and found
a suggestion to use the kernel-headers. I downloaded the
kernel-headers.2.4.18.deb, untarred itself to /usr/src/, 'make install'
the nvidia-kernels .. and it WORKED! ahhh that felt good ^.^ ... 

Compiling the kernel-source didn't help much so using the kernel-headers
did it for me ... wow ... I've lost a ton of sleep on this one.


Thanks very much to those who helped :)
Elijah


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Re: Getting nVidia to load

[Bill Moseley]

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Larry Hunsicker wrote:

> I am not sure why, in my setup, the nvidia kernel "make install" didn't
> add the line to /etc/modules.  The nVidia folks may not have wanted to
> force this at boot up.  But their documentation probably should note
> that one needs to add this line to get the module loaded automatically.

It doesn't need to be added, at least on my setup.

$ /sbin/lsmod | fgrep nvidia
nvidia   1467456  10 (autoclean)

$ fgrep nvidia /etc/modules

But I've installed the nvidia drivers twice now -- once via the debian
source packages and once from using the tarballs from nvidia and following
their instructions.  So maybe when I used the Debian sources it added the
file to modutils to demand load.

  $ cat /etc/modutils/nvidia-kernel-2.4.18-xfs-athlon 
  alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia
  alias char-major-195 nvidia

How module loading works is one of those unanswered questions I've posted
to the debian-user list before.  I think I understand insmod, and that
modprobe uses modules.dep to load dependencies, but I don't really
understand modules.conf and how it works with modproble.

I've read the "alias" part of the man page for modules.conf but still
don't understand what those "alias" lines above do.

My *guess* is that the X nvidia_drv.o module opens /dev/nvidia* and that
causes a demand load of the nvidia driver.  But if that's the case I'm
curious at what point the modules.conf file is parsed -- if that happens
at boot or when /dev/nvidia* is accessed.

Doesn't seem likely that it happens each time a device is accessed as that
would be a lot of parsing of modules.conf.

So if it happens at boot time then what loads that info into the kernel?

Of course, I may have it all wrong.  It probably works by magic.


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how do i get removed from this?

[M4sK]

At 04:31 02-01-2003 -0600, you wrote:

debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2003 : Issue 10

Today's Topics:
  sources.list for people.debian.org/~  [ will trillich 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  woody! i made it! [ will trillich 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: initializing linux partitions af  [ Nori Heikkinen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: users and x/gdm   [ "Karsten M. Self" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: initializing linux partitions af  [ Gerald Livingston 

  Re: ArgoUML   [ Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  configuring X with 3D Prophet [ Alberto Stracuzzi 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Unidentified subject! [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: initializing linux partitions af  [ Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Unofficial Debian package manage  [ Frank Copeland 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Timing a program run? [ Gerald Livingston 

  Re: Timing a program run? [ Paul Johnson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: Timing a program run? [ Thomas Krennwallner 

  Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Timing a program run? [ sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Timing a program run? [ Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ James Tappin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:14:19 -0600
From: will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: sources.list for people.debian.org/~elphick?
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:31:11AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 04:14, will trillich wrote:
> > couldn't get the ~elphick/postgresql apt thingie to work, so i'm
>
> I think that is now fixed.  Please, let me know.

i can't figure out what to put in my sources.list file --
anything i try with "apt-get" seems to insist on there being a
point in the remote repository path that includes a "dists"
directory, and browsing around

http://people.debian.org/~elphick/repository/

i don't find any such "dists/" directory that would make my
apt-get happy. i do find

debian/
stable/
woody/
contrib/
installed/
main/
non-free/

but no "dists/" which my apt seems rather persistent about.
(there's probably some setting i can change, tho, right?)

suggestions (and blitheringly simple pointers i've overlooked)
are welcome. :)

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DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #103 from Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Trying to CREATE A CRONTAB FOR THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH?  Best
to put all the logic within the crontab itself (a Good Thing,
since you then only have to look in one place to find it):
1 0 28-31 * * [ "$(date +%d -d +1day)" -eq "1" ] && 
/path/to/script args

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:16:11 -0600
From: will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: woody! i made it!
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after a few speed bumps, I'M FINALLY RUNNING WOODY -- and on my
primary server, no less. awesome!

thanks for y'all'uns patience and help. :)

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DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #102 from Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Trying to LEARN ABOUT DEBIAN? Check out the links here:
http://pub13.ezboard.com/fiwetheylinux.showMessage?topicID=649.topic&index=39

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:15:35 -0500
From: Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: initializing linux partitions after installation
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on Thu, 02 Jan 2003 07:56:36AM +, Karsten M. Self insinuated:
> on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:24:40AM -0500, Nori Heikkinen 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > so, i did it!  i installed debian from scratch, woo-hoo!  it's now
> > installed, but not configured, so i still have half the work ahead
> > of me ... but thanks to y'all and to debian, it was much easier
> > than i'd expected it to be.
> >
> > now my question is: during setup and installation, i partitioned
> > off my hard drive into a swap partition /, /usr, /var, /tmp, and
> > /home.  i initialized the swap and the first three of the others,
> > but then i stopped, and moved on to the rest of the installation.
> > now i don't have /tmp or /home initialized or mounted.  how do i
> > go back and do this?
>
>1.  Create the partition 

Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian sarge

[Alan Chandler]

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On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 2:53 pm, Richard PAVY wrote:
> I added
> ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5a/Debian/woody/
>
> In the sources.list file but "apt-get install kde" with root privileges
> (I'm using debian sarge, it shouldn't be any harder than that???)
> Doesn't seen to work. It says :
>
> server:~# apt-get install kde

Several things, 

1)  you need to do an apt-get update after adding the line
2)  I think, that this particular archive (which is not the official debian 
one) does not have the task kde defined.  You'll have to apt-get the 
individual groups of packages (kdelibs4 kdebase, kdeadmin etc) separately.
3) You may need to remove all existing kde packages before trying this.

You might find it easier whats happening if you use dselect or aptitude.




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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[Hanasaki JiJi]

Ran into this sometime back myself.. it was related to gdm options. 
something about a -nolisten option

James Tappin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
"Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



FYI
If I try xhost +localhost
xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"




3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
xhost +debian # as the original user
or:
export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
or even:
ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su



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Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]

[Bill Moseley]

On 3 Jan 2003, Elijah wrote:

> It took me awhile to download new modutils, binutils, 2.4.20 kernel
> sources, etc. etc. .compile etc .. .. none worked for me. 
> 
> Then I searched all over forums, /usr/share/docs/, sites, etc. and found
> a suggestion to use the kernel-headers. I downloaded the
> kernel-headers.2.4.18.deb, untarred itself to /usr/src/, 'make install'
> the nvidia-kernels .. and it WORKED! ahhh that felt good ^.^ ... 
> 
> Compiling the kernel-source didn't help much so using the kernel-headers
> did it for me ... wow ... I've lost a ton of sleep on this one.

I'm glad you got it working!

The above doesn't make sense to me.  If you compiled your kernel you have
your kernel headers.  /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz
describes this.

If you look at the Nvidia tarball file NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191/Makefile it
uses

  KERNDIR=/lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)

  ifeq ($(shell if test -d $(KERNDIR)/build; then echo yes; fi),yes) 
KERNINC=$(KERNDIR)/build/include
  else
KERNINC=/usr/src/linux/include
  endif

And on my machine:

$ ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   29 Aug  7 22:07
/lib/modules/2.4.18-xfs-laptop/build -> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18

points back to the kernel source directory.

I've never used a kernel-headers package.  I assume it creates a similar
symlink.

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Preferred procedure for getting extra php4 functionality?

[Lloyd Zusman]

I noticed that the standard debian php4 package doesn't seem to be built
with the "--enable-mime-magic" option, and therefore, it doesn't provide
the capability to use the mime_content_type() function.

What's the preferred debian procedure for getting extra php
functionality like this?  Download the php4 source packages and rebuild
them myself?  Send a message to the package maintainer(s)?  Or ... ???

Thanks.

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Re: Unofficial Debian package management

[David Z Maze]

Frank Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 26 Dec 02 15:00:22 GMT, David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I've been using mini-dinstall to maintain a small private repository
>> (mostly with my custom-compiled kernels).  You can add other things to
>> it, but it wants a full source package with a .changes file, which
>> means pretending to be a developer and building the package from
>> source yourself.
>
> How are you creating custom kernel packages with .changes files? I've
> been unable to work out how to do it with kernel-package and make-kpkg.

Instead of 'make-kpkg kernel-image', I use 'make-kpkg buildpackage'.
I wind up with redundant -source, -headers, etc. packages, but hey,
disk is cheap.  Similarly, 'make-kpkg modules' instead of
modules-image.  (And to get this to work, you need to generate a GPG
key, which is probably a good idea anyways, and make sure that you
have the right name and email in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf.)

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Re: Preferred procedure for getting extra php4 functionality?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 11:43:42AM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote:
> I noticed that the standard debian php4 package doesn't seem to be built
> with the "--enable-mime-magic" option, and therefore, it doesn't provide
> the capability to use the mime_content_type() function.
> 
> What's the preferred debian procedure for getting extra php
> functionality like this?

File a wishlist bug report against php4. See
.

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Debian

[Larry Stallings]

Yes, I have a question.  Can I 
get a CD with the Debian updates on it or do I have to download them from the 
Web?  I live in a very small town and have a slow modem.  I hope there 
is some other way of receiving updated info.  I just ordered Debian 3 so it 
should be a fairly new version, but I understand there are updates already out 
there.
 
Thank You;
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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[David Z Maze]

"Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> make xconfig
...
> Application initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
> "10.100.4.2:0.0"
...
> Yes I was login directly as root

*Why*?  Building a kernel isn't the sort of essential system
administration task that requires root access; you're much less likely
to shoot yourself in the foot if you do it as a normal user.  (You
only need to be root to do the final install-the-kernel step; in a
kernel-package world, that's the 'dpkg --install' invocation.)

It sounds like your essential problem is that you're setting $DISPLAY
by hand when you don't need to.  If you really are logged in directly,
DISPLAY should come pre-set to :0.0, which is the right setting.
Similarly, if you're logged in remotely, ssh X forwarding should
correctly set DISPLAY for you.

These days, unless you're dealing with remote work on really crufty
machines with recalcitrant administrators who won't install ssh, you
have no reason to ever put anything before the colon in an X display
setting.  (Exception: ssh uses localhost:10.0 or so rather than a Unix
socket.)  Similarly, you should probably forget the xhost command ever
existed; it's useless on a Debian box with default settings.

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Re: Debian

[nate]

Larry Stallings said:
> Yes, I have a question.  Can I get a CD with the Debian updates on it or
> do I have to download them from the Web?  I live in a very small town and
> have a slow modem.  I hope there is some other way of receiving updated
> info.  I just ordered Debian 3 so it should be a fairly new version, but I
> understand there are updates already out there.


I don't think there are any official cds with security updates on them.
You should be able to get revision updates on CD (r1 is the current
for woody I think).

you could do something like apt-get -s upgrade, to see what packages will
be downloaded and download them manually from security.debian.org on another
machine, and install them manually (dpkg) though.

if the machine is firewalled or protected in some other way you may not
need security updates, and you may only need or want to upgrade to the
minor revisions. This assumes your systems are on a trusted network.

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Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]

[Elijah]

> I'm glad you got it working!
> 
> The above doesn't make sense to me.  If you compiled your kernel you have
> your kernel headers.  /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz
> describes this.
> 
> If you look at the Nvidia tarball file NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191/Makefile it
> uses
> 
>   KERNDIR=/lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)
> 
>   ifeq ($(shell if test -d $(KERNDIR)/build; then echo yes; fi),yes) 
> KERNINC=$(KERNDIR)/build/include
>   else
> KERNINC=/usr/src/linux/include
>   endif
> 
> And on my machine:
> 
> $ ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
> lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   29 Aug  7 22:07
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-xfs-laptop/build -> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
> 
> points back to the kernel source directory.
> 
> I've never used a kernel-headers package.  I assume it creates a similar
> symlink.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

As I remember from unpacking the kernel-headers it unloads a directory
kernel-header>include> it seems to only have the 'include' directory
(I'm not sure though). Then I do: (from the nvidia-kernel)

make SYSLINUX=/usr/src/kernel-header/include/

it compiles after that (no need to compile the headers, as I didn't but
still worked). 

After all that excitement I think I also remember symlinking the
headers:
ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers /usr/src/linux

then compile the nvdia-kernel

(I can't remember much of which method I used but I assume both worked
since they seem all the same to me as it points to my kernel-headers)


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ogg123 segmentation fault

[David H. Clymer]

for some reason, ogg123 is acting up. when I try to play an .ogg file, i
get the message the following:



woody:/home/david/share/audio/speeches# ogg123 rms-mit*.ogg

Device:   OSS audio driver output 
Author:   Aaron Holtzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Comments: Outputs audio to the Open Sound System driver.

Playing: rms-mit2001.ogg
Error: Cannot open device oss.

Segmentation fault



this happens no regardless of which account it is run under. mpg321
works just fine. 

any ideas?

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real player plugin only as root

[John Kerr Anderson]

Hello,

I recently tried installing Real Player 8 plugin for Netscape 7.0.
NS7.0 recognises the plugin for all users, but when I try to listen to
Netscape radio, only root can hear the sound.

Can anyone tell me how to get the sound to work for other users?  Any
advice would be helpful...

Thanks in advance!  :-)

John Kerr Anderson


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Re: Debian

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 09:11:09AM -0800, Larry Stallings wrote:
> Yes, I have a question.  Can I get a CD with the Debian updates on it or do I have 
>to download them from the Web?  I live in a very small town and have a slow modem.  I 
>hope there is some other way of receiving updated info.  I just ordered Debian 3 so 
>it should be a fairly new version, but I understand there are updates already out 
>there.

There are some updates, but (depending on your installation size), it
should not be more than 20 or 30 MB

Frank

> 
> Thank You;
> Larry Stallings
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Re: real player plugin only as root

[ernst]

you scould check the rights

(chmod a+rw /dev/dsp)

# ls -la /dev/dsp
crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14,   3 Nov  4  2001 /dev/dsp
#

/ernst

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, John Kerr Anderson wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently tried installing Real Player 8 plugin for Netscape 7.0.
> NS7.0 recognises the plugin for all users, but when I try to listen to
> Netscape radio, only root can hear the sound.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get the sound to work for other users?  Any
> advice would be helpful...
>
> Thanks in advance!  :-)
>
> John Kerr Anderson
>
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Re: ogg123 segmentation fault

[Stephan Seitz]

Hi!

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:40:23PM -0500, David H. Clymer wrote:
> for some reason, ogg123 is acting up. when I try to play an .ogg file, i
> get the message the following:

> Playing: rms-mit2001.ogg
> Error: Cannot open device oss.
 
Seems the oss device is used by another programm. Maybe esd or artsd?

> this happens no regardless of which account it is run under. mpg321
> works just fine. 

And what output device is mpg321 using?

Try ogg123 -d esd or -d arts.

Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

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OpenGL

[Chris Burns]

Hey everyone,

I'm having trouble getting a simple OpenGL window running here wiht the 
GLX lib.  it's a tutorial i downloaded from NeHe's website, renders 
almost nothing, it's just to illustrate how to use the libraries to get 
a rendering window up and running. here's the error i'm getting:

XF86VidModeExtension-Version 2.1
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Only Singlebuffered Visual!
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
glX-Version -1073743316.64971124
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Segmentation fault

I was under the impression that XF86 4.0 and Debian would have all the 
standard OpenGL libraries already installed.  

how do i get the GLX extension?

Chris~


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Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Library

[Hal Vaughan]

I used apt-get to install a few games -- most not ably, Enigma, and Mirror 
Magic.  Whenever I try to run either from the console, I get:

error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open shared 
ojbect file: No such file or directory

I do have /usr/libs/libvorbisfile.so.3, but not .so.0.  I thought apt-get was 
supposed to resolve dependency problems like this.

So what do I do to get these programs running?  I did apt-cache search 
libvorbisfile and the only package listed had libvorbisfile.so.3.

Thanks!

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Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian sarge

[Greg Madden]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 05:53 am, Richard PAVY wrote:
> I added
> ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5a/Debian/woody/
>
> In the sources.list file but "apt-get install kde" with root privileges
> (I'm using debian sarge, it shouldn't be any harder than that???)
> Doesn't seen to work. It says :
>
> server:~# apt-get install kde
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
>
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kde: Depends: kdelibs3 but it is not going to be installed
>Depends: libarts or
> libarts-alsa but it is not going to be installed or
> libarts-bin but it is not installable
>Depends: libkmid or
> libkmid-alsa but it is not going to be installed or
> libkmid-bin but it is not installable
>Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3 but it is not installable
>Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
>Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3-libs but it is not installable
>Depends: kdebase-doc but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3-doc but it is not installable
>Depends: kab but it is not going to be installed
>Depends: kpm but it is not going to be installed
>Depends: koffice but it is not going to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> server:~#
>
> but what's more, an "apt-cache showpkg kde" says I'm installing kde
> 2.2.25 or so while I need kde3. Anyone help me ??!!

Alan is rigtht about the task 'kde' Sarge has a task kde based on kde2.2.x so 
I would expect kde2.2.x to get installed with that command. Dselect/aptitude 
is a preffered way, and be carefull to not select ay kde2.2.x stuff, only the 
kde3.0.5a. packages, both sets of packages will be listed.
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Re: Linux and Intel's Hyperthreading

[mess-mate]

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:16:03 -0800 (PST)
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| nick lidakis said:
| > I was looking to replace my 1Ghz P3 and motherboard with  a stable,  but
| > fast mb/cpu combo that was fully supported by a recent linux kernel. I
| > was looking a an Intel 845PE motherboard with a 3.0Ghz cpu. My question
| > is, how is Hyperthreading supported under linux? Is it a matter of
| > enabling SMP in the kernel? Anyone playing with one of these CPU's?
| 
| 
| it is supported by default. the system will see double the cpus there
| actually are. the kernel isn't tuned to fully take advantage of the
| hyperthreading yet though. I think newer 2.5.x kernels can do it, perhaps
| theres a patch for 2.4.x.. but last I read the current breed of stable
| kernels are not optimized for it.
| 
| If I had a system with hyperthreading I would disable the hyperthreading
| in the bios(one mailing list thread mentioned there is an option to do
| so, at least on some systems). Because the kernel would get confused and
| think there are 4 processors on a 2 processor system it might try to get
| smart by loading stuff up on processor #2, not knowing its the same physical
| processor as #1, before loading stuff on #3. I don't remember any benchmark
| numbers but I seem to recall there being very little if any difference
| in performance on hyperthreaded systems with hyperthreading on vs. off
| on the stock kernels(performance can go way up on the newer 2.5.x which
| are tuned to take advantage of it in some cases).
| 
| I've read one post on the redhat list recently, some guy was asking why
| top showed 4 cpus on his dual p4, since it was a dual cpu system, a guy
| responded because it was hyperthreading ...
| 
| so it should work, just not very optimal.
| 
| nate
| 
Well, ASUS suggest to compile with the Hyper-Threading compiler ???
What about this compiler ?
Thanks
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Re: gqview and pgm

[Lourens Steenkamp]

Lourens replying to Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  >  On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:17, Dave W wrote:
  >  > On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 18:27, Michael Naumann wrote:
  >  > 
  >  > > Is this reproducable elsewhere or is this something special
  >  > > to me?
  >  > 
  >  > Works fine on my box, for what it's worth.  
  >  
  >  Works for me, too.  I'm running
  Works for Ron  not for me
  >  gqview   1.0.21.0.2-1
  >  gnome   1.4.2not installed 
  >  libc6   2.3.1-5 2.2.5-14.3
  >  libgdk-pixbuf2  0.21.0-1   0.17.0-2
  >  libglib1.2 1.2.10-6   1.2.10-4
  >  libgtk1.2 1.2.10-14  1.2.10-11
  >  libpng2   1.0.12-6   1.0.12-3
  >  xlibs   4.2.1-3 4.1.0-16
  >  zlib1g 1.1.4-6 1:1.1.4-1
  >  

Does not work for me.
I have added my versions to the above, you may be able to figure
something out.

HTH


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Unidentified subject!

[Jason Pepas]

I don't know what to file a bugreport against, checkinstall, man, groff or lp?

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff 
-mand
:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space 
after

gv displays nothing

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff 
-mand
:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space 
after
(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ gv /tmp/foo.ps

gv displays the page correctly

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff 
-mand
:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space 
after
request id is epson-197 (1 file(s))

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ man -t checkinstall | lp
/tmp/zman8FWIIT:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space after 
`
request id is epson-199 (1 file(s))

these both print the man page, but appear to start from the second page.

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ man checkinstall | lp
Reformatting checkinstall(1), please wait...
/tmp/zmanySH7Iv:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space after 
`
request id is epson-198 (1 file(s))

this also prints the man page, and also starts on the second page, but starts
from a different spot.

your opinions are welcome.

-jason pepas


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Re: real player plugin only as root

[Aryan Ameri]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 21:37, ernst wrote:
> you scould check the rights
>
> (chmod a+rw /dev/dsp)
>
> # ls -la /dev/dsp
> crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14,   3 Nov  4  2001 /dev/dsp
> #
>

Well, I have RealPlayer, and all the permissions are correct and the mozilla 
plugin is loaded, but I can't use it. Mozilla doesn't bring the program up 
when needed, and when I run the program itself, I get an error message 
telling me that cannot open audio device, another program might be using it.

Cheers
Aryan


> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, John Kerr Anderson wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently tried installing Real Player 8 plugin for Netscape 7.0.
> > NS7.0 recognises the plugin for all users, but when I try to listen to
> > Netscape radio, only root can hear the sound.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me how to get the sound to work for other users?  Any
> > advice would be helpful...
> >
> > Thanks in advance!  :-)
> >
> > John Kerr Anderson
> >



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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #13

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> Subject:
>
> debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2003 : Issue 13
>
> Today's Topics:
>   Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks  [ Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED] [ Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks  [ "Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: PCAnywhere and IPCHAINS   [ "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: mrtg and snmpd[ "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: which files can be safely delete  [ "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED] [ Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Getting nVidia to load[ Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>
>   -
>
> Subject: Re: kde still sucks and gnome2 rocks why?
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:11:39 -0800
> From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 09:24:10AM -0500, Walter Tautz [MFCF] wrote:
> > I'd love to hear an analysis of why gnome2 rocks and kde does not. Perhaps
> > others would like to read about it :-)
>
> KDE gets in my way in all the same ways Windows does.  This is a Bad
> Thing.  This has nothing to do with what theme or wm I'm using in KDE,
> KDE just seems to be overly grandious about providing a freaking
> desktop environment.  The KDE menu is also organized very bizarrely
> (for someone coming from straight-out AfterStep).
>
> I've been using computers since I was 8, and I started on a VAX where
> my father was the sysadmin.  I, of all people, should not be
> overwhelmed by KDE.  Simplify it, folks!  KDE is so baroque, it
> wouldn't surprise me if it pisses off Windows users, and you've seen
> what kind of interfacial abuse they subject themselves to.
>
> There is very little I can't change in sawfish or gnome as far as
> sawfish or gnome are concerned in more than five mouse clicks.
>
> However, one thing that tweaks me about both DEs, still, is that they
> go out and clone xterm.  Uuh, why?  And why make it as ugly and only
> slightly more useful than Windows Telnet?  I realise that DE's are
> supposed to be most helpful for newbies, but *jeeze*, I have to wonder
> if anybody stopped for a moment and thought that maybe unleashing
> something as garish and stubborn as Windows Telnet on the Linux
> community isn't the right thing to do.
>
> --
>  .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : :'  :proud Debian admin and user
> `. `'`
>   `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system
>
>   -
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>
>   -
>
> Subject: Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]
> Date: 02 Jan 2003 23:29:44 +0900
> From: Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi!
>
> It took me awhile to download new modutils, binutils, 2.4.20 kernel
> sources, etc. etc. .compile etc .. .. none worked for me.
>
> Then I searched all over forums, /usr/share/docs/, sites, etc. and found
> a suggestion to use the kernel-headers. I downloaded the
> kernel-headers.2.4.18.deb, untarred itself to /usr/src/, 'make install'
> the nvidia-kernels .. and it WORKED! ahhh that felt good ^.^ ...
>
> Compiling the kernel-source didn't help much so using the kernel-headers
> did it for me ... wow ... I've lost a ton of sleep on this one.
>
> Thanks very much to those who helped :)
> Elijah
>
>   -
>
> Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:20:24 -0800
> From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Tappin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "James Tappin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:27 AM
> Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
>
> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
> > "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > FYI
> > > If I try xhost +localhost
> > > xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"
> > >
> >
> > 3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
> > xhost +debian # as the original user
> > or:
> > export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
> > or even:
> > ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su
> >
> > --
> > James Tappin, O__  "I forget the punishment for using
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   --  \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering
> > http://www.tappin.me.uk/with data loss in it I fancy"
> >
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> unable to ope

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #14

[Clay Trotter]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Subject:
debian-user-digest Digest  
Volume 2003 : Issue 14
Today's Topics:
  how do i get removed from this?  
[ M4sK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
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Subject: how do i get removed from this?
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:11:37 +0100
From: M4sK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 04:31 02-01-2003 -0600, you wrote:
>debian-user-digest Digest  
Volume 2003 : Issue 10
>
>Today's Topics:
>   sources.list for people.debian.org/~  [ will trillich
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   woody! i made it!
[ will trillich
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: initializing linux partitions af  [ Nori Heikkinen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: users and x/gdm  
[ "Karsten M. Self"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: initializing linux partitions af  [ Gerald Livingston
> >   Re: ArgoUML  
[ Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ "Kevin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   configuring X with 3D Prophet
[ Alberto Stracuzzi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Unidentified subject!
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: initializing linux partitions af  [ Osamu Aoki
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Unofficial Debian package manage  [ Frank Copeland
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Timing a program run?
[ Gerald Livingston
> >   Re: Timing a program run?
[ Paul Johnson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Timing a program run?
[ Thomas Krennwallner
> >   Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ "Kevin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Timing a program run?
[ sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Timing a program run?
[ Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0   [ James
Tappin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:14:19 -0600
>From: will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: sources.list for people.debian.org/~elphick?
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Disposition: inline
>
>On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:31:11AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 04:14, will trillich wrote:
> > > couldn't get the ~elphick/postgresql apt thingie to work, so
i'm
> >
> > I think that is now fixed.  Please, let me know.
>
>i can't figure out what to put in my sources.list file --
>anything i try with "apt-get" seems to insist on there being a
>point in the remote repository path that includes a "dists"
>directory, and browsing around
>
> http://people.debian.org/~elphick/repository/
>
>i don't find any such "dists/" directory that would make my
>apt-get happy. i do find
>
> debian/
>
stable/
>
woody/
>
contrib/
>
installed/
>
main/
>
non-free/
>
>but no "dists/" which my apt seems rather persistent about.
>(there's probably some setting i can change, tho, right?)
>
>suggestions (and blitheringly simple pointers i've overlooked)
>are welcome. :)
>
>--
>I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0;
>Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown
>
>DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #103 from Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>:
>Trying to CREATE A CRONTAB FOR THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH?  Best
>to put all the logic within the crontab itself (a Good Thing,
>since you then only have to look in one place to find it):
> 1 0 28-31 * * [ "$(date
+%d -d +1day)" -eq "1" ] &&
> /path/to/script args
>
>Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/
...
>Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:16:11 -0600
>From: will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: woody! i made it!
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Disposition: inline
>
>after a few speed bumps, I'M FINALLY RUNNING WOODY -- and on my
>primary server, no less. awesome!
>
>thanks for y'all'uns patience and help. :)
>
>--
>I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0;
>Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown
>
>DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #102 from Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>:
>Trying to LEARN ABOUT DEBIAN? Check out the links here:
>http://pub13.ezboard.com/fiwetheylinux.showMessage?topicID=649.topic&index=39
>
>Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/
...
>Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:15:35 -0500
>From: Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: initializing linux partitions after installation
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Disposition: inline
>
>on Thu, 02 Jan 2003 07:56:36AM +, Karsten M. Self insinuated:
> > on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:24:40AM -0500, Nori Heikkinen
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > so, i did it!  i installed debian from scratch, woo-hoo! 
it's n

adding ssl to apache1.3?

[Robert L. Harris]

  I've got an apache1.3 server up and running.  I've been thinking for a
while of adding ssl for the heck of it (nothing important on it, just
something I've wanted to to do).  I added libapache-mod-ssl to my
debian unstable server.  There's no doc/readme on configuring and
activating the openssl implementations.

  Anyone got a good HOWTO or link?

Robert


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Re: OpenGL

[nate]

Chris Burns said:

> how do i get the GLX extension?

be sure all opengl libraries that you need are installed(most likely
one/more of the mesa* packages), and turn on glx in the X config file
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4

sample from my nvidia setup:

Section "Module"
Load"dbe"   # Double buffer extension
Load"extmod"
SubSection  "extmod"
EndSubSection
Load"type1"
Load"freetype"
Load   "glx"
EndSection

once that is done, restart X and/or your display managers so the new
config file can take effect. once done try running the command glxinfo.

sample output:
[aphro@aphro:~]$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.2
[..]
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce3/PCI/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 1.3.1 NVIDIA 28.80
[..]
(bunch more stuff snipped)


nate




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Re: Unidentified subject!

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:56:25PM -0600, Jason Pepas wrote:
> I don't know what to file a bugreport against, checkinstall, man,
> groff or lp?
> 
> (pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff 
> -mand

What's -mand? Perhaps you mean -mandoc.

> :106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space 
> after

What's on line 106 of that file?

It looks like a broken man page to me. I can rule out man and lp from
your list above; it could be either checkinstall or groff at fault.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #15

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Today's Topics:
  Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian s  [ Alan Chandler  ]
  Preferred procedure for getting extr  [ Lloyd Zusman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Unofficial Debian package manage  [ David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Preferred procedure for getting   [ Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Debian    [ "Larry Stallings"  ]
  Re: Debian    [ "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED] [ Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  ogg123 segmentation fault [ "David H. Clymer"  ]
  Re: real player plugin only as root   [ ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: ogg123 segmentation fault [ Stephan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  OpenGL    [ Chris Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Lib  [ Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian s  [ Greg Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Linux and Intel's Hyperthreading  [ mess-mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: gqview and pgm    [ Lourens Steenkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]


Subject: Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian sarge
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:23:32 +
From: Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 2:53 pm, Richard PAVY wrote:
> I added
> ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5a/Debian/woody/
>
> In the sources.list file but "apt-get install kde" with root privileges
> (I'm using debian sarge, it shouldn't be any harder than that???)
> Doesn't seen to work. It says :
>
> server:~# apt-get install kde

Several things, 

1)  you need to do an apt-get update after adding the line
2)  I think, that this particular archive (which is not the official debian 
one) does not have the task kde defined.  You'll have to apt-get the 
individual groups of packages (kdelibs4 kdebase, kdeadmin etc) separately.
3) You may need to remove all existing kde packages before trying this.

You might find it easier whats happening if you use dselect or aptitude.




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Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 10:25:57 -0600
From: Hanasaki JiJi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ran into this sometime back myself.. it was related to gdm options. 
something about a -nolisten option

James Tappin wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
> "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>FYI
>>If I try xhost +localhost
>>xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"
>>
> 
> 
> 3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
> xhost +debian # as the original user
> or:
> export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
> or even:
> ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su
> 

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Subject: Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:35:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3 Jan 2003, Elijah wrote:

> It took me awhile to download new modutils, binutils, 2.4.20 kernel
> sources, etc. etc. .compile etc .. .. none worked for me. 
> 
> Then I searched all over forums, /usr/share/docs/, sites, etc. and found
> a suggestion to use the kernel-headers. I downloaded the
> kernel-headers.2.4.18.deb, untarred itself to /usr/src/, 'make install'
> the nvidia-kernels .. and it WORKED! ahhh that felt good ^.^ ... 
> 
> Compiling the kernel-source didn't help much so using the kernel-headers
> did it for me ... wow ... I've lost a ton of sleep on this one.

I'm glad you got it working!

The above doesn't make sense to me.  If you compiled your kernel you have
your kernel headers.  /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz
describes this.

If you look at the Nvidia tarball file NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191/Makefile it
uses

  KERNDIR=/lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)

  ifeq ($(shell if test -d $(KERNDIR)/build; then echo yes; fi),yes) 
    KERNINC=$(KERNDIR)/build/include
  else
    KERNINC=/usr/src/linux/include
  endif

And on my machine:

$ ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root root   29 Aug  7 22:07
/lib/modules/2.4.18-xfs-laptop/build ->

pdf2ps Segmentation fault

[Sven Heinicke]

On some pdf files pdf2ps Segmentation faults on stable Debian.  While on
Red Hat 8.0 the don't.  I see that the testing version has a closer
version to that of Red Hat.  Anybody have luck with running testing
gs-common and/or gs debs on stable?

  Sven



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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #14

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On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:16:31PM -0600, Clay Trotter wrote:
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Audio Video digital capture / playback

[Hanasaki JiJi]

Any recommendations on Audio Video digital capture / playback hardware 
and software woking on Woody / Sarge?
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RE: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #15

[Scott (sidewalking)]

Title: Message



http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe
 
Just 
check the box that says to unsubscribe from the debian-user-digest and put 
your email in the box at the bottom.  This list is run by a computer, so 
replying repeated with a request will not work.
 
Hope 
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Today's Topics:
  Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian s  [ Alan Chandler  ]
  Preferred procedure for getting extr  [ Lloyd Zusman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Unofficial Debian package manage  [ David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Preferred procedure for getting   [ Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Debian    [ "Larry Stallings"  ]
  Re: Debian    [ "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED] [ Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  ogg123 segmentation fault [ "David H. Clymer"  ]
  Re: real player plugin only as root   [ ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: ogg123 segmentation fault [ Stephan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  OpenGL    [ Chris Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Lib  [ Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian s  [ Greg Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
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Subject: Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian sarge 
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:23:32 + 
From: Alan Chandler 
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On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 2:53 pm, Richard PAVY wrote:
> I added
> ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5a/Debian/woody/
>
> In the sources.list file but "apt-get install kde" with root privileges
> (I'm using debian sarge, it shouldn't be any harder than that???)
> Doesn't seen to work. It says :
>
> server:~# apt-get install kde

Several things, 

1)  you need to do an apt-get update after adding the line
2)  I think, that this particular archive (which is not the official debian 
one) does not have the task kde defined.  You'll have to apt-get the 
individual groups of packages (kdelibs4 kdebase, kdeadmin etc) separately.
3) You may need to remove all existing kde packages before trying this.

You might find it easier whats happening if you use dselect or aptitude.




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Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0 
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 10:25:57 -0600 
From: Hanasaki JiJi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ran into this sometime back myself.. it was related to gdm options. 
something about a -nolisten option

James Tappin wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
> "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>FYI
>>If I try xhost +localhost
>>xhost:  unable to open display "debian:0.0"
>>
> 
> 
> 3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
> xhost +debian # as the original user
> or:
> export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
> or even:
> ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su
> 

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Subject: Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED] 
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) 
From: Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: Elijah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3 Jan 2003, Elijah wrote:

> It took me awhile to download new modutils, binutils, 2.4.20 kernel
> sources, etc. etc. .compile etc .. .. none worked for me. 
> 
> Then I searched all over forums, /usr/share/docs/, sites, etc. and found
> a suggestion to use the kernel-headers. I downloaded the
> kernel-headers.2.4.18.deb, untarred itself to /usr/src/, 'make install'
> the nvidia-kernels .. and it WORKED! ahhh that felt good ^.^ ... 
> 
> Compiling the kernel-source didn't help much so using the kernel-headers
> did it for me ... wow ... I've lost a ton of sleep on this one.

I'm glad you got it working!

The a

Re: real player plugin only as root

[David Raeker-Jordan]

Are you a member of the audio group?

Aryan Ameri wrote:


On Thursday 02 January 2003 21:37, ernst wrote:
 

you scould check the rights

(chmod a+rw /dev/dsp)

# ls -la /dev/dsp
crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14,   3 Nov  4  2001 /dev/dsp
#

   


Well, I have RealPlayer, and all the permissions are correct and the mozilla 
plugin is loaded, but I can't use it. Mozilla doesn't bring the program up 
when needed, and when I run the program itself, I get an error message 
telling me that cannot open audio device, another program might be using it.

Cheers
Aryan
 



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Re: Unidentified subject!

[Jason Pepas]

> What's -mand? Perhaps you mean -mandoc.

hmm, looks like I didn't copy / paste that correctly.  lets try that again:

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff 
-mandoc - | gv
:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space 
after `sp')

gv displays nothing

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff 
-mandoc - > /tmp/foo.ps 
:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space 
after `sp')
(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ gv /tmp/foo.ps 

gv displays the page correctly

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff 
-mandoc - | lp
:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space 
after `sp')
request id is epson-197 (1 file(s))

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ man -t checkinstall | lp
/tmp/zman8FWIIT:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space after 
`sp')
request id is epson-199 (1 file(s))

these both print the man page, but appear to start from the second page.

(pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ man checkinstall | lp 
Reformatting checkinstall(1), please wait...
/tmp/zmanySH7Iv:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space after 
`sp')
request id is epson-198 (1 file(s))

this also prints the man page, and also starts on the second page, but starts
from a different spot.



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KDE weirdness

[Deryk Barker]

I wonder if somebody can help with this odd problem...

Just installed my new system (unstable) and most things are working
satisfactorily, except...

When I log in under KDE sound stops working. TO be precise, any
applicatino that tries to send sound  (to /dev/dsp?) hangs - it looks
very much as if something has created a lock and won't let it go.

When I go to control center and test the sound - bing! out comes the
little KDE burble. When I shut down KDE and log in using another WM
everything is just fine.

Sounds like some sort of KDE configuration thing, except that my
about-to-be-decommissioned system is running the same software and
sound works under KDE just fine.

One wrinkle: when I log on as root under KDE the "burble" is played
during the logon process. When I log on as a ormal user it isn't..

Any pointers gratefully received. For all its problems I like and am
used to KDE and don't want to have to make the switch to some other
WM just now.
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[Clay Trotter]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Subject:
>
> debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2003 : Issue 16
>
> Today's Topics:
>   Re: Programs Won't Run -- Can't find  [ Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Unidentified subject! [ Jason Pepas <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: real player plugin only as root   [ Aryan Ameri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003   [ Clay Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   adding ssl to apache1.3?  [ "Robert L. Harris"Re: OpenGL[ "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Unidentified subject! [ Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>
>   -
>
> Subject: Re: Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Library
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:49:37 +0100
> From: Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> On Thursday 02 January 2003 19:26, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I used apt-get to install a few games -- most not ably, Enigma, and
> > Mirror Magic.  Whenever I try to run either from the console, I get:
> >
> > error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open
> > shared ojbect file: No such file or directory
> >
> > I do have /usr/libs/libvorbisfile.so.3, but not .so.0.  I thought
> > apt-get was supposed to resolve dependency problems like this.
>
> This problem already occured some time ago. It should help if you go to
> /usr/lib and create the .so.0 as a symlink to .so.3.
>
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> Subject: Unidentified subject!
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:56:25 -0600
> From: Jason Pepas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I don't know what to file a bugreport against, checkinstall, man, groff or lp?
>
> (pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff
> -mand
> :106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space
> after
>
> gv displays nothing
>
> (pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff
> -mand
> :106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space
> after
> (pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ gv /tmp/foo.ps
>
> gv displays the page correctly
>
> (pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ zcat /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz | groff
> -mand
> :106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space
> after
> request id is epson-197 (1 file(s))
>
> (pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ man -t checkinstall | lp
> /tmp/zman8FWIIT:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space after
> `
> request id is epson-199 (1 file(s))
>
> these both print the man page, but appear to start from the second page.
>
> (pts/3)jason@marsala:~$ man checkinstall | lp
> Reformatting checkinstall(1), please wait...
> /tmp/zmanySH7Iv:106: warning: `spec' not defined (probable missing space after
> `
> request id is epson-198 (1 file(s))
>
> this also prints the man page, and also starts on the second page, but starts
> from a different spot.
>
> your opinions are welcome.
>
> -jason pepas
>
>   -
>
> Subject: Re: real player plugin only as root
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:33:28 +0330
> From: Aryan Ameri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Kerr Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Thursday 02 January 2003 21:37, ernst wrote:
> > you scould check the rights
> >
> > (chmod a+rw /dev/dsp)
> >
> > # ls -la /dev/dsp
> > crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14,   3 Nov  4  2001 /dev/dsp
> > #
> >
>
> Well, I have RealPlayer, and all the permissions are correct and the mozilla
> plugin is loaded, but I can't use it. Mozilla doesn't bring the program up
> when needed, and when I run the program itself, I get an error message
> telling me that cannot open audio device, another program might be using it.
>
> Cheers
> Aryan
>
> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, John Kerr Anderson wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I recently tried installing Real Player 8 plugin for Netscape 7.0.
> > > NS7.0 recognises the plugin for all users, but when I try to listen to
> > > Netscape radio, only root can hear the sound.
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me how to get the sound to work for other users?  Any
> > > advice would be helpful...
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!  :-)
> > >
> > > John Kerr Anderson
> > >
>
>   -
>
> Subject: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #13
> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:17:00 -0600
> From: Clay Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Please remove me from your email
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Subject:
> >
> 

Re: real player plugin only as root

[John Kerr Anderson]

Thank you Aryan!

I changed the permissions and it seems to be working more or less...

One thing I read was sometimes the files  and  must
be manually installed in the netscape or mozilla plugins directory.  Maybe
that is the problem with your setup.  But, you did mention that it is
loaded.  I would just make sure those two files are in your mozilla
*plugins* directory.

Good luck :-)

John

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Aryan Ameri wrote:

> On Thursday 02 January 2003 21:37, ernst wrote:
> > you scould check the rights
> >
> > (chmod a+rw /dev/dsp)
> >
> > # ls -la /dev/dsp
> > crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14,   3 Nov  4  2001 /dev/dsp
> > #
> >
>
> Well, I have RealPlayer, and all the permissions are correct and the mozilla
> plugin is loaded, but I can't use it. Mozilla doesn't bring the program up
> when needed, and when I run the program itself, I get an error message
> telling me that cannot open audio device, another program might be using it.
>
> Cheers
> Aryan
>


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Re: real player plugin only as root

[Aryan Ameri]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 23:27, David Raeker-Jordan wrote:
> Are you a member of the audio group?

Added, but still mozilla asks me wether to save the .ram program or to open it 
using a program, and when I instruct it to open it using realplayer, the 
problem described in my previous email (below).

Cheers
Aryan

> Aryan Ameri wrote:
> >On Thursday 02 January 2003 21:37, ernst wrote:
> >>you scould check the rights
> >>
> >>(chmod a+rw /dev/dsp)
> >>
> >># ls -la /dev/dsp
> >>crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14,   3 Nov  4  2001 /dev/dsp
> >>#
> >
> >Well, I have RealPlayer, and all the permissions are correct and the
> > mozilla plugin is loaded, but I can't use it. Mozilla doesn't bring the
> > program up when needed, and when I run the program itself, I get an error
> > message telling me that cannot open audio device, another program might
> > be using it.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Aryan


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Re: gqview and pgm

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:58, Lourens Steenkamp wrote:
> Lourens replying to Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   >  On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:17, Dave W wrote:
>   >  > On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 18:27, Michael Naumann wrote:
>   >  > 
>   >  > > Is this reproducable elsewhere or is this something special
>   >  > > to me?
>   >  > 
>   >  > Works fine on my box, for what it's worth.  
>   >  
>   >  Works for me, too.  I'm running
>   Works for Ron  not for me
>   >  gqview 1.0.21.0.2-1
>   >  gnome 1.4.2not installed 
>   >  libc6 2.3.1-5 2.2.5-14.3
>   >  libgdk-pixbuf20.21.0-1   0.17.0-2
>   >  libglib1.2   1.2.10-6   1.2.10-4
>   >  libgtk1.2   1.2.10-14  1.2.10-11
>   >  libpng2 1.0.12-6   1.0.12-3
>   >  xlibs 4.2.1-3 4.1.0-16
>   >  zlib1g   1.1.4-6 1:1.1.4-1
>   >  
> 
> Does not work for me.
> I have added my versions to the above, you may be able to figure
> something out.

Maybe you need a partial-sid box, like me???

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irssi-text not working

[Jason Pepas]

irssi-text doesn't seem to be working for me.

issuing the command irssi from the command line simply does nothing.

ii  irssi-text 0.8.5-2text-mode version of the irssi IRC client

any ideas?  perhaps some sort of perl module dependency problem?

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Re: Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Library

[Nicos Gollan]

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On Thursday 02 January 2003 19:26, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I used apt-get to install a few games -- most not ably, Enigma, and
> Mirror Magic.  Whenever I try to run either from the console, I get:
>
> error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open
> shared ojbect file: No such file or directory
>
> I do have /usr/libs/libvorbisfile.so.3, but not .so.0.  I thought
> apt-get was supposed to resolve dependency problems like this.

This problem already occured some time ago. It should help if you go to 
/usr/lib and create the .so.0 as a symlink to .so.3.

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Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:52:25AM -0800, Kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0

<...>

The following is largely irrelevant.

> make xconfig
> rm -f include/asm
> ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
> make -C scripts kconfig.tk
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/scripts'
> cat header.tk >> ./kconfig.tk
> ./tkparse < ../arch/i386/config.in >> kconfig.tk
> echo "set defaults \"arch/i386/defconfig\"" >> kconfig.tk
> echo "set ARCH \"i386\"" >> kconfig.tk
> cat tail.tk >> kconfig.tk
> chmod 755 kconfig.tk
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/scripts'
> wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
> Application initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
> "10.100.4.2:0.0"
> Error in startup script: invalid command name "button"
> while executing
> "button .ref"
> (file "scripts/kconfig.tk" line 51)
> make: *** [xconfig] Error 1
> 
> Yes I was login directly as root

To what?

Rather more important than what you're running is *how* you're running.
None of us here can peek over your shoulder to see what's on your
screen.  You have to provide that information.  You've been less than
helpful, I'm not going to respond further if you don't provide useful
information.

Here's the story:

  - If you're logging in to a GUI session on your GNU/Linux system
(local X11 session), as root, but have mangled your $DISPLAY
variable by hand, there is no display (X11 session) to connect to.
This could be your problem, and fits with the information you've
provided.

  - If you're logging in to a GUI session on your GNU/Linux system
(local X11 session), as a non-root user, and have accessed root via
su or sudo, but have not set, or have incorrectly set, a $DISPLAY
variable, or have not properly configured xauth, there is no display
(X11 session) to connect to.  This could be your problem, and fits
with the information you've provided.

  - If you're logging in to console on your GNU/Linux system (no X11
session), there is no display (X11 session) to connect to.  This
could be your problem, and fits with the information you've
provided.

  - If you're sitting at another system, not running a local X11 server,
and are establishing a shell session to your GNU/Linux box, there is
no X11 session to connect to.  This could be your problem, and fits
with the information you've provided.

  - If you're sitting at another system, running a local X11 server, and
are establishing a shell session to your GNU/Linux box, but have any
of a number of configurations which don't forward the X11
connection, there is no X11 session to connect to.  This could be
your problem, and fits with the information you've provided.


Kevin:  unless you clarify precisely how you're logged into your system,
there's little but educated guesses most of us can provide for you.
Please provide the appropriate information.

Alternatively, you could use a configuration option (e.g.:  make config,
make menuconfig) which doesn't require an X11 display.

Peace.

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Re: irssi-text not working

[Jason Pepas]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 03:28 pm, Jason Pepas wrote:
> irssi-text doesn't seem to be working for me.
>
> issuing the command irssi from the command line simply does nothing.
>
> ii  irssi-text 0.8.5-2text-mode version of the irssi IRC client
>
> any ideas?  perhaps some sort of perl module dependency problem?
>
> -jason pepas

hmm, looks like a bug was files 83 days ago, and hasn't been fixed...

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=164369

-jason pepas


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Re: Timing a program run?

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 08:21:17PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:46:19AM -0800, Eric G. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:31:39AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> 
> <...>
> 
> > > AHHH -- there it is, in "man bash" buried in "SHELL GRAMMAR -->
> > > Pipelines", where it doesn't stand out at all. 
> > 
> > No. You probably want the time program in package "time".  It'll live at
> > /usr/bin/time.
> 
> In bash and other modern shells, 'time' is a builtin.  The 'time'
> package provides 'time' for shells which don't include a time builtin
> function.  Or "reseved word" according to the bash manpage.

Or for use when you need more information than the bash builtin gives

Frank

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> Peace.
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Re: irssi-text not working

[Jason Pepas]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 03:28 pm, Jason Pepas wrote:
> irssi-text doesn't seem to be working for me.
>
> issuing the command irssi from the command line simply does nothing.
>
> ii  irssi-text 0.8.5-2text-mode version of the irssi IRC client
>
> any ideas?  perhaps some sort of perl module dependency problem?
>
> -jason pepas

well, the unstable version seems to be working.  at least that's a workaround.

-jason pepas


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