Re: Latest woody upgrade to causes fonts in X to disappear

2001-09-11 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:13:04AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> I did an 'apt-get upgrade' to my testing system yesterday and got > 50
> MB of upgraded packages(!)
> 
> This upgrade included version 4.10 of X. I notice now that on a large
> number of applications, such as the Gnome desktop and applications
> which have pop-up or drop-down menus, that the text has been replaced
> by squares (in fact, this makes Gnome essentially unusable; switching
> to kde restored much of the functionality).  I assume this means that a
> particular font got messed up by the upgrade, but I really don't know
> where to look.  Has anyone else seen this (and found a solution)?

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I found the answer in another thread
which suggested changing the order of the "fonts" section in
XF86Config-4.

Bob



Re: VIM Behavior Modification

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
> > I am using vim and am having problems pasting content into a file while
> > using vim. vim is "auto-indenting" based on the previous line, so the
> > pasted text is quickly mauled and tabbed out more and more every line
> > (for large chunks of text, this is completely unmanageable).
> > 
> > However, when I am programming, I make use of this feature. How can
> > I selectively turn this feature on and off?

You might consider something similar to the following in your .vimrc:

:autocmd!   " clears autocommands

:autocmd FileType * set noai" default is not auto-indent

:autocmd FileType c,cpp,cc set ai   " auto-indent in program code

Chris 
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Netgear FA311 driver from Scyld

2001-09-11 Thread Rob Hudson
Hi,

I recently got the natsemi.c driver for my Netgear FA-311 card
working.  I compiled the .o files for both natsemi and pci_scan
separately and inserted them and brought up my network card.

I'd like to compile this driver into the kernel.

I've done this with a Linksys LNE-100TX card, which is tulip based.
How the Netgear card differs is that there is no prior natsemi.c file
to overwrite and select in the kernel configuration.  

How do I get the kernel to 'see' the natsemi.c file and compile this
driver into the kernel?

Thanks,
Rob


Random Quote:

It took the computational power of three Commodore 64s to fly to the moon.
It takes a 486 to run Windows 95.
Something is wrong here.



kernel 2.2.17 -> 2.2.19

2001-09-11 Thread Maciej Bobrowski


Hi,

I have debian potato with kernel 2.2.17. there is a kernel-image-2.2.19 at
http://packages.debian.org/ and some mirrors. I have the deb file.
Can I simply upgrade my kernel image to 2.2.19 by dpkg program ??. I mean:
dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.19_2.2.19-2.deb ??

Or I can use apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19 or something like that
after apt-get update and adding one mirror with the kernel image v. 2.2.19
??

best regards,
Maciek Bobrowski



Re: "Webwasher" alternatives (was Re: Web banner blocker)

2001-09-11 Thread Robert Waldner

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:48:32 EDT, Jason Boxman writes:
<...>
>> As far as tracking your surfing, I'm chatting with a guy who's pointed
>> me to a site that gets direct logs from ISPs, on claim was they had
>> about 35% of the market in their service area.  Ties full demographics
>> (they've got your ISP) with traffic patterns.  Lesson:  you can't trust
>> anyone to see both ends of your connection.

>> The company involved is:   http://www.hitwise.com.au/methodology/

>Is there any way to defeat that?  If they've the ISP's logs, down they own 
>you?  Or is it only effective if you combine it with logs from sites where I 
>provide valid personal information?

>From their FAQ:

.-.-.
9. What parts of an ISP Network are analysed by Hitwise?
Hitwise currently monitors the proxy servers of ISP networks. Proxy
 servers produce log files that are analysed by Hitwise to calculate
 website visits and page requests made through the ISPs network.
.-.-.

Don´t use your ISPs proxy servers if you´re concerned about privacy in 
 that regard. For the even more paranoid, some anon-proxy might be of 
 value.

cheers,
&rw
-- 
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-- A: Not enough sand.





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Re: X-windows hosed! Solved

2001-09-11 Thread Erik Steffl
Dale Morris wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:
> 
> > Dale Morris wrote:
> > >
> > > Yesterday I built the 2.4-9 kernel. The box crashed for no apparent
> > > reason and now I just did an apt-get upgrade and destroyed Xwindows.
> > > Here's what I think is wrong. I was trying to get true type fonts
> > > working a while back and had problems with XF86Config. So I went to
> > > the XFree86 download site and ran ./install -check script and
> > > downloaded and installed all the necessary files to upgrade me to
> > > 4.0.3. Everything worked fine until today when I tried to upgrade
> > > (have done so successfully in the past) and apt tried to install
> > > XServer and Xserver-svga and numerous other Xpackages I don't
> > > remember. Then it exited with an error. I tried removing (didn't work)
> > > Xwindows and installing x-window-system (didn't work) and ended up
> > > with lots of error messages. Any way out of this short of a reinstall?
> >
> >   well, check the error messages.
> It worked after I removed the offending files I did option to install
> the package maintainers version of all the new .deb configuration
> files. Only thing is now the menus don't work properly..

  not work in what way?

  did you try update-menus?

  try to check at least few window managers to see if all of them or
just some of them are screwed up.

> >   btw why would you run install scripts from XFree86 download site? The
> > X 4.x is in debian and you can use the ttf straight out of the box
> > (don't even need the font server (if you don't want to serve fonts for
> > other machines))
> I don't remember now, for some reason it wouldn't work and I was in a
> try anything mode. It seems I have to have a certain amount of
> frustration in my life.

  well, ok.

erik



Re: kernel 2.2.17 -> 2.2.19

2001-09-11 Thread Susumu Takuwa
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:15:48 +0200 (CEST)
Maciej Bobrowski writes:

MB> Can I simply upgrade my kernel image to 2.2.19 by dpkg program ??. I mean:
MB> dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.19_2.2.19-2.deb ??
MB> 
MB> Or I can use apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19 or something like that
MB> after apt-get update and adding one mirror with the kernel image v. 2.2.19
MB> ??

In that case, 

$ apt-get update
$ apt-cache search --names-only kernel-image-2.2
kernel-image-2.2.17 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.2.17.
kernel-image-2.2.19 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.2.19.
kernel-image-2.2.17-compact - Linux kernel binary image.
(snip)

You can find out kernel-2.2.19 packages when you search them
by apt-cache. You can install/upgrade kernel like this,

$ apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19


Susumu Takuwa





Re: kernel 2.2.17 -> 2.2.19

2001-09-11 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 07:15:48AM +0200, Maciej Bobrowski wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have debian potato with kernel 2.2.17. there is a kernel-image-2.2.19 at
> http://packages.debian.org/ and some mirrors. I have the deb file.
> Can I simply upgrade my kernel image to 2.2.19 by dpkg program ??. I mean:
> dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.19_2.2.19-2.deb ??
> 
> Or I can use apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19 or something like that
> after apt-get update and adding one mirror with the kernel image v. 2.2.19
> ??

Either method will work.



Re: seeing umlauts in mutt (works okay in vim, not mutt)

2001-09-11 Thread Danie Roux
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:29:12PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> i was referring to vim operations ^K-keystroke-keystroke and :dig
> (:digraph). very cool. i could learn a new feature about vim
> every hour and i bet it'd take ten years to finish.

Did you know about :set digraph?
To type ê, you then just need to type > backspace and e. Really cool.

Head over to vim.sf.net. The official Vim homepage.

They have a tips section there, and a scripts section

-- 
Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix



Re: Super slow NFS

2001-09-11 Thread Anthony Lau
Thanks to those that responded.

I didn't realize that my router was not passing packet
fragments. Updating the firmware has got NFS working
much faster now. Still not as fast as FTP or SSH, but
not too bad.

--
Anthony



Re: VIM Behavior Modification

2001-09-11 Thread Danie Roux
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:27:07PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote:
> I am using vim and am having problems pasting content into a file while
> using vim. vim is "auto-indenting" based on the previous line, so the
> pasted text is quickly mauled and tabbed out more and more every line
> (for large chunks of text, this is completely unmanageable).
> 
> However, when I am programming, I make use of this feature. How can
> I selectively turn this feature on and off?
> 
> BTW - I am not subscribed to debian-user due to the high traffic, so 
> please CC me in the response. Thanks.
> 
> -- 
>   Nick Jennings
 
:help autocmd
and 
:help paste

Get Vim 6, currently in beta stage. It has automatic indenting for all
sorts of languages via plugin scripts (previously only C was explicitly
supported).

Thanks to Wichert:

deb http://people.debian.org/~wakkerma/vim ./
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~wakkerma/vim ./

An apt-get upgrade will get you the newest beta.

-- 
Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix



[cls@truffula.sj.ca.us: xlibs vs xlib6g ?]

2001-09-11 Thread Branden Robinson

-- 
G. Branden Robinson|The basic test of freedom is
Debian GNU/Linux   |perhaps less in what we are free to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |do than in what we are free not to
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |do.  -- Eric Hoffer
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When I tried to install licq_1.0.3-3_i386.deb on potato,
I ran into a maze of dependencies, and upgrading
dependent libraries ended with a deadlock between
xlibs and xlib6g.  Each seems to require the other
already be there.
And I couldn't find anything about it on debian.org.

Where should I have looked to find out how this upgrade
path is supposed to work?  Is there an upgrade roadmap
someplace? I couldn't find anything in the FAQ.

TIA


Cameron
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DHCP over cable

2001-09-11 Thread G. Crimp
Hi,

I need help setting up a dhcp client. I have recently been told by
[EMAIL PROTECTED], my cable ISP, that they will be moving to an entirely dynamic
setup from a hybrid dynamic/static one.  I tried setting up dhcpcd once
several months ago when I suddenly found myself with no DNS.  They had
changed the IPs of the servers, given to me as part of my static setup,
without giving any notice.  I figured I would move to a dynamic
configuration to avoid this in the future, but I couldn't get it to work. 
Now I have no choice.

If anyone is connected via cable, especially if you are a Shaw
customer (Vancouver, BC), I'd love to hear how you are setup.  Which dhcp
client do you use (pump, dhcpcd, etc) ?  What does your configuration file
look like ?

Thanks,

G



Re: Anyone ever printed RECTANGLES under GNOME?

2001-09-11 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:31:28 +1200, Adam Warner wrote:
> I tried a number of the recommendations without success (e.g. rearranging
> XF86Config-4, checking out locales, locales-gen). I hope what appears to
> be a bug in gnome-print is resolved.

Have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/111782 . Greg reports his problems
were fixed by adding "/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts" to the
"@default_paths" of
"/usr/share/doc/libgnomeprint-data/run-gnome-font-install" and then running
"sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnomeprint-data.postinst configure".

HTH,
Ray
-- 
ART  A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. 
I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking 
his name in vain. 
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Re: multiple monitors, i810 & ???

2001-09-11 Thread Emil Pedersen
Adam McDaniel wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 11:40:07PM +0200, Emil Pedersen wrote:
> > Adam McDaniel wrote:
> > >
> > > My personal experience in having a dual-headed system is that you must mix
> > > the types. IE, One AGP and one PCI, or one PCI and one MDA, etc... When 
> > > you
> >  ^^^
> > What type is the MDA?
> 
> Heh, MDA has been described in the kernel source as 'pre-dinosaur hardware'.

Ah, not to interesting in my case ;-)


> side. Neat idea to create a headless machine... Basically you could monitor
> everything including the bios via a serial port.

Cool.   I'll look around a bit to see if I can find anything.  On the
other hand, it probably got the "special hardware" feature expensive. 
The idea was not to spend a lot of money, and if I do anyway I probably
just grab a dual head Matrox.

Anyway, thanks for your time.

The best,
Emil



Re: eth0 doesn't work under 2.4.9

2001-09-11 Thread Vittorio
Marc Becher [debian-user] <10/09/01 20:34 +0200>:
> hum, appears a little strange, as I do not have any problem with
> the eepro100, but with the 8139too (I used rtl8139 with 2.2.19) I have exactly
> the same problem, but ifconfig does not really bring the interface up. It is
> shown, but I can't ping it.
> 
> Any hints are welcome -- marc

As a further check (but I don't know if it is relevant!),in
/var/log/messages I find the following:
 

PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0478, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent
PCI: Discovered primary peer bus 04 [IRQ]
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.


Vittorio



Re: Evolution

2001-09-11 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2001-09-10 at 21:24, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> 
>   Is anyone working with Evolution and IMAP?  I'm trying to get mine 
> working with an exchange server.  Windows admin says IMAP is up and on
> but I'm not having much luck.  I say to check mail, it asks for a pass
> but doesn't show me my inbox.  I'm not getting any errors either.

Evolution and IMAP works very well for me, connecting to my local IMAP
server, my ISP IMAP server and the work IMAP server.

The problem is Exchange...  :(  It's version of IMAP is... interesting?
and some releases of Evolution are broken when connecting to MS
servers.  And the recent snapshots have been broken, period.

I suggest you pop over to #evolution on irc.gimp.net and ask in there,
most of the developers appears during the EST day and are willing to
answer questions.

Ross Burton




Re: ide-smart and proactive drive monitoring

2001-09-11 Thread Andrew Pollock
To answer my own question, the ucsc-smartutils package provides a SMART
monitoring daemon and another tool for also retrieving SMART statistics. I
guess I just need to employ one of the log watching tools to look for
errors from the daemon.

I still wouldn't mind a better understanding of the actual output,
smartctl produces something similar but in a different format:

Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
Revision Number: 11
AttributeFlag Value Worst Threshold Raw Value
(  1)Raw Read Error Rate 0x0029   100   253   020   
(  3)Spin Up Time0x0027   057   057   020   153f
(  4)Start Stop Count0x0032   100   100   008   0015
(  5)Reallocated Sector Ct   0x0033   100   100   020   
(  7)Seek Error Rate 0x000b   100   100   023   
(  9)Power On Hours  0x0012   094   094   001   10af
( 10)Spin Retry Count0x0026   100   100   020   
( 11)Unknown Attribute   0x0013   100   100   020   
( 12)Power Cycle Count   0x0032   100   100   008   0015
( 13)Unknown Attribute   0x000b   100   093   023   
(199)UDMA CRC Error Count0x001a   200   200   000   
(196)Reallocated Event Count 0x0010   100   253   020   
(197)Current Pending Sector  0x0032   100   100   020   
(198)Offline Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   253   000   

regards

Andrew

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Andrew Pollock wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It just crossed me as being a good idea (tm) to monitor my hard drives in case
> of imminent failure, and sure enough the ide-smart package exists. Cool. One
> problem, I have no idea how to read the output:
> 
> daedalus:/usr/doc/ide-smart# ide-smart /dev/hda
> Id=  1, Status=41 {PreFailure , OffLine}, Value=100, Threshold= 20, Passed
> Id=  3, Status=39 {PreFailure , OnLine }, Value= 57, Threshold= 20, Passed
> Id=  4, Status=50 {Advisory, OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold=  8, Passed
> Id=  5, Status=51 {PreFailure , OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold= 20, Passed
> Id=  7, Status=11 {PreFailure , OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold= 23, Passed
> Id=  9, Status=18 {Advisory, OnLine }, Value= 94, Threshold=  1, Passed
> Id= 10, Status=38 {Advisory, OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold= 20, Passed
> Id= 11, Status=19 {PreFailure , OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold= 20, Passed
> Id= 12, Status=50 {Advisory, OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold=  8, Passed
> Id= 13, Status=11 {PreFailure , OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold= 23, Passed
> Id=199, Status=26 {Advisory, OnLine }, Value=200, Threshold=  0, Passed
> Id=196, Status=16 {Advisory, OffLine}, Value=100, Threshold= 20, Passed
> Id=197, Status=50 {Advisory, OnLine }, Value=100, Threshold= 20, Passed
> Id=198, Status=16 {Advisory, OffLine}, Value=100, Threshold=  0, Passed
> OffLineStatus=0 {NeverStarted}, AutoOffLine=No, OffLineTimeout=0 minutes
> OffLineCapability=27 {Immediate Auto SuspendOnCmd}
> SmartRevision=11, CheckSum=189, SmartCapability=3 {SaveOnStandBy AutoSave}
> 
> Does anyone know how to decipher it, or of any good SMART references?
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
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RE: Network unreachable....

2001-09-11 Thread Andy Laurence
> First, try 'ifconfig eth0'.  If you get something then the
> device is at least present.

'eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found'

> If you don't get anything, then next step is
> to check that
> you have the correct modules loaded.  Try a 'lsmod' command and see if
> anything familiar comes up.

I get lockd, sunrpc, unix come up.

> You can then use 'modconf' to
> load the modules or use 'insmod'.
> Once the modules are in you can do a
> '/etc/init.d/networking restart' to get the interfaces up
> easily.

Just did this to get at error messages 

Reconfiguring network interfaces: eth0: unknown interface: No such device
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
... it continues reporting no such device.

> If you still have nothing and it's and ISA card, you'll then need to
> check your
> isapnp.conf to see if everything is kosher there.  If none of
> this works,
> read someone else's reply.

OK, cheers.  It's a PCI card, so I will!

--

> type lspci on command prompt
> it will give u r networkcard name

eepro100

> modprbe 
> update-modules

ok, done.

> /etc/passwd
> at end of line
>
> +::/bin/bash

not sure what this means???

> later
> do networking restart

this worked, but now a ping results in 'Operation not permitted'

---

> Post execution and output of the following commands:
>
>$ lsof

as I'm typing this by hand (no network connection - cannot E-Mail from box)
this is *way* too long to do by hand!

>$ ifconfig

eth0Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 
inet addr:10.0.0.90 Bcast 10.0.0.255Mask 255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:240 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd000

lo is as normal and can ping 127.0.0.1

>$ route

localnet*   255.255.255.0   U   0   0   0   eth0
default 10.0.0.40.0.0.0 UG  0   0   0   eth0

> Sounds like your network cards aren't installed or configured.

That's what it seems like to me, but it's weird as no-one has used it (I'm
the only one with root).  It just stopped working.

--

>try ifconfig eth0 up

yup, no difference.

--

just to recap, when I ping I now get

'Operation not permitted'

I cannot ping from another machine on the network, so I deduce the
networking is not responding to requests.  Maybe I've lost priveleges to
transmit packets?!

Cheers for the help so far,
Andy



Hanging cron.daily

2001-09-11 Thread BeerBong
Hello all!

Please help to understand where can be a problem.
I had a following process list at the morning.
Such things happened from time to time.

22799 ?SW 0:00  \_ /USR/SBIN/CRON
22801 ?S  0:00  \_ /bin/sh -c test -e /usr/sbin/anacron ||
run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily 2>&1 | mail -s "[Log]"
22808 ?S  0:00  \_ run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
23051 ?Z  0:00  |   \_ [exim ]
22809 ?S  0:00  \_ mail -s [Log] Daily report from Maul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

/etc/crontab:

SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin

 # m h dom mon dow user  command
00 9* * *   roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.daily 2>&1 | mail -s "[Log] Daily report from Maul" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


cron.daily contains following scripts:

maul:/etc/cron.daily# ls
backup  calendar  exim  find  logrotate  logrotate-webalizer  man-db
modutils  netbase  proftpd  quota  samba  standard  sysklogd


non-standart scripts -
backup - makes incremental backup  (166 serious web sites)
(20Mb of gziped changes daily) and copy archive to another computer via
samba

I think other scripts does not matter, because they should be executed after
exim.
exim is a standart script:

maul:/tmp/test# cat /etc/cron.daily/exim
#!/bin/sh

# Cycle logs
if [ -x /usr/bin/savelog ]; then
  for i in mainlog rejectlog paniclog; do
if [ -e /var/log/exim/$i ]; then
  savelog -u mail -g mail -p -c 10 /var/log/exim/$i >/dev/null
fi
  done
fi

Machine has all neccessary resources:

maul:/usr/backup# df -k
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda193309 31955 56537  36% /
/dev/sda5   577096155436392344  28% /var
/dev/sda6  7850996   5840544   1611640  78% /usr
maul:/usr/backup# free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:255900 253796   2104  0  14200  91592
-/+ buffers/cache: 148004 107896
Swap:   511132 102488 408644

Logs are clean.
When I start exim script manually it executes normally.
Where problem ?
---
Sergey "BeerBong" Polyakov
chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru)




Re: moving '/' to a new disk

2001-09-11 Thread George Karaolides

Easy.  First mount /dev/md0 somewhere remporary like /mnt, then do

root# tar cplf - -C / . | tar xvpf - -C /mnt

the "l" option will make sure tar only archives the local root filesystem,
not mounted filesystems.  This takes care of /proc as well.

Check that the /tmp permissions are 1777, which will break the manpages
among other things; I seem to recall they were changed once when I did
this, though it might have been me forgetting to include the "p" option to
tar.

You need to change fstab and lilo.conf to reflect the changes, but since
you're not asking I suspect you know about this. 

Additionally, for reference:

If you want your system to survive a disk crash, you will be wanting to
swap on RAID1 as well.  Make two equal-size partitions on your two RAID
disks, make a RAID1 out of them, make a swap area out of them, and put
it in the fstab.

root# mkswap -v1 /dev/mdX

With /boot on one disk and everything else on RAID1,  your system will
survive a disk crash but if the disk that died was the one with /boot on
it, you won't be able to reboot.  It's not too hard to put /boot in a
RAID1 as well.

The same goes for the bootloader.  If the disk that dies is the one with
the bootloader in its MBR, you won't be able to reboot.  With /boot in a 
RAID1, you can install the bootloader on the MBR of both /dev/sda and
/dev/sdb so you can boot from either disk, selecting the boot device from
your SCSI bios.   This makes sure your system remains functional no matter
which disk dies.  You can't do this unless /boot is in a RAID1.

I also notice you seem to be using a "sacrificial disk", /dev/sdc, which
won't be a part of your array in the end.  This is not necessary. With the
new raidtools, you can include partitions on the disk with your initial
non-RAID system on it in any RAID array, even if they don't exist yet,
i.e. even if you will be re-partitioning the disk before adding it to the
RAID.  You include these partitions in any arrays as failed-disk entries
to start with.  Then once you have made sure everything is OK and you can
boot into the RAID system, you can, if necessary, re-partition the disk
with the non-RAID system, change the raidtab to show the failed-disk
partitions as raid-disk, and raidhotadd them to the arrays they belong to. 

Since implementing all the above on the servers at work, my life has been
a lot easier.

Best regards,

George Karaolides   8, Costakis Pantelides St.,
tel:   +35 79 68 08 86   Strovolos, 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Nicosia CY 2057,
web:   www.karaolides.com  Republic  of Cyprus

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, tim wrote:

> I currently Have:
> Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on 
> /dev/sdc1  2064144 16892   1942372   1% /  
> /dev/sda115522  2943 11778  20% /boot 
> /dev/md1   4001600965072   3036528  25% /usr 
> /dev/md2   3356180325708   3030472  10% /var 
> 
> I want:
> Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on 
> /dev/md0  2064144 16892   1942372   1% /  
> /dev/sda115522  2943 11778  20% /boot 
> /dev/md1   4001600965072   3036528  25% /usr 
> /dev/md2   3356180325708   3030472  10% /var
> 
> where raidtab will be:
> #/ 
> raiddev /dev/md0 
> raid-level 1 
> nr-raid-disks 2 
> persistent-superblock 1 
> chunk-size 16 
> device /dev/sda3 
> raid-disk 0 
> device /dev/sdb3 
> raid-disk 1 
> 
> #/usr 
> raiddev /dev/md1 
> raid-level 0 
> nr-raid-disks 2 
> persistent-superblock 1 
> chunk-size 16 
> device /dev/sda5 
> raid-disk 0 
> device /dev/sdb5 
> raid-disk 1 
> 
> #/var 
> raiddev /dev/md2 
> raid-level 0 
> nr-raid-disks 2 
> persistent-superblock 1 
> chunk-size 16 
> device /dev/sda6 
> raid-disk 0 
> device /dev/sdb6 
> raid-disk 1 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Latest woody upgrade to causes fonts in X to disappear

2001-09-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:07:35PM -0700, Bob Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:13:04AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> > I did an 'apt-get upgrade' to my testing system yesterday and got > 50
> > MB of upgraded packages(!)
> > 
> > This upgrade included version 4.10 of X. I notice now that on a large
> > number of applications, such as the Gnome desktop and applications
> > which have pop-up or drop-down menus, that the text has been replaced
> > by squares (in fact, this makes Gnome essentially unusable; switching
> > to kde restored much of the functionality).  I assume this means that a
> > particular font got messed up by the upgrade, but I really don't know
> > where to look.  Has anyone else seen this (and found a solution)?
> 
> Thanks for all the suggestions.  I found the answer in another thread
> which suggested changing the order of the "fonts" section in
> XF86Config-4.

...to what?

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Re: How

2001-09-11 Thread F Zimmermann



On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, rg2k1 wrote:

> Hi
>
> Have been trying my darndest to download Debian from the net. But evidently I
> don't understand how to do it. And can't find any "How to" references. I go to
> download with FTP/ USA and get the Parent list. ?? I'm a newbi to Linux, with 
> a great interest in learning all I can. But tell me please, How in the heck 
> do I download from the net?? I've gone everywhere on your site to no avail. 
> Or is the
> Linux OS just beyond me, and I should stick with Microsoft.  Thanks for your 
> help!
>
> Ronald Goodwin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

I am not sure if I understand you. What are you looking for? the Debian
iso files or do you want to install Debian via ftp? It's all on the Debian
homepage explained in evry detail. Tell us what you want and we will be
able to help you.
Frank




fetchmail

2001-09-11 Thread F Zimmermann


Hi,

I have a strange problem with fetchmail. It worked all fine but I was
wondering why i was not getting any mails in the past weeks. So I sent a
messeage from my account at university and I didn't recieve it. I usually
run fetchmail automatically when I go online with pon. this is my
fetchmail-up script:

#!/bin/sh
export LOGNAME=root
export HOME=root
test -r /etc/fetchmailrc && \
/usr/bin/fetchmail --invisible -v -a --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc

and here is my fetchmailrc:

set syslog
set postmaster "frank"
set nobouncemail
set properties ""
set daemon 900
poll mail.uklinux.net proto pop3
user xx there  with password  is frank here warnings
3600

I copied it to ~/.fetchmailrc and run the test option in fetchmailconf
(after sending a mail to an echo server). everything looks fine. Fetchmail
says it fetching the mail and the deleting it from the server. But i can't
find them on my system, neither in /var/spool/mail/frank nor in my home
directory.

Any hints on where to look for them and what might go wrong??

Thanks,
Frank



Re: fetchmail

2001-09-11 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:41:17AM +0100, F Zimmermann wrote:
> 
> I copied it to ~/.fetchmailrc and run the test option in fetchmailconf
> (after sending a mail to an echo server). everything looks fine. Fetchmail
> says it fetching the mail and the deleting it from the server. But i can't
> find them on my system, neither in /var/spool/mail/frank nor in my home
> directory.
> 
> Any hints on where to look for them and what might go wrong??

Do you have a .procmailrc file? 

Look in your mail logs to see where your MTA delivered the mail.

Mike

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Question about "screen"

2001-09-11 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
Hi,

I'm using screen on 1 machine with 2 windows, 1 of the windows is used to
ssh to another machine. Now I would like to start a new screen session on
that other machine, and be able to create new virtual windows in that
session (normally ctrl-a ctrl-c).

Unfortunately, I can start that new screen session, but pressing the
abovementioned keycombination starts a new virtual window on the first
machine.

Any ideas if it's possible to circumvent this problem?

-- 

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Re: GUI in Debian 2.2r3

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

On Monday Sep 10 22:40 Helmut Trinkl wrote:

> ** Now, Timo, why confuse it all here?! The user originally requesting 
> ** help, "recently installed Debian" on his/her computer. He/she "can't 
> ** seem to get the GUI to show up",  t h e  GUI, not some GUI. 

Yes! And that's the fact cause i suggested him/her to install something
like Gnome or KDE! I think this is anough for help cause there is not
t h e GUI on a Debian system, but several GUI's. So don't let's quarrel 
about the best explanation for GUI.

However! Thank you for your postings. May be possible it was bad from
me, to forget to tell something about XFree86.

Timo

--
Wer Käse mag, der futtert auch Füsse!

 :-)



gmc: fonts for desktop

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy
Hi!

My font on desktop is very small. I found no file of gmc where i could
change this font. What can i do to get an other font on desktop?

Timo

--
Wer Käse mag, der futtert auch Füsse!

 :-)



Re: Evolution

2001-09-11 Thread Adam Warner
On Tue, 2001-09-11 at 19:45, Ross Burton wrote:
> On Mon, 2001-09-10 at 21:24, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > 
> >   Is anyone working with Evolution and IMAP?  I'm trying to get mine 
> > working with an exchange server.  Windows admin says IMAP is up and on
> > but I'm not having much luck.  I say to check mail, it asks for a pass
> > but doesn't show me my inbox.  I'm not getting any errors either.
> 
> Evolution and IMAP works very well for me, connecting to my local IMAP
> server, my ISP IMAP server and the work IMAP server.
> 
> The problem is Exchange...  :(  It's version of IMAP is... interesting?
> and some releases of Evolution are broken when connecting to MS
> servers.  And the recent snapshots have been broken, period.

BTW I have been using Evolution to access my Linux IMAP mailbox and all
the recent Evolution releases for Debian since about 0.10 have been
great (We are now up to 0.13-2). No secure IMAP support yet.

Over this time I have also been accessing my University mail (using
IMAP) which is an Exchange server so I know Exchange version 5.5 SP3 and
5.5 SP4 works with Evolution. I have heard some bad things about
Exchange 2000. See what Eric Raymond thinks of it standards
implementation:

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html

---Begin Quote---

It's been reliably reported that Exchange 2000's POP3 support is so
broken that it's unusable. One symptom is that messages without a
terminating newline get the POP3 message termination dot emitted -- you
guessed it -- right after the last character of the message, with no
terminating newline added. This will hang fetchmail or any other
RFC-compliant server. IMAP is alleged to work OK, though.

[Great about the IMAP bit]

...

But, the best option involves a tactical nuclear weapon (an old ASROC
will do), pissing off a lot people who live downwind from Redmond, and
your choice of any Linux, NetBSD, FreeBSD, or Solaris CD. 

---End Quote---

Regards,
Adam Warner



Re: Anyone ever printed RECTANGLES under GNOME?

2001-09-11 Thread Adam Warner
On Tue, 2001-09-11 at 18:59, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:31:28 +1200, Adam Warner wrote:
> > I tried a number of the recommendations without success (e.g. rearranging
> > XF86Config-4, checking out locales, locales-gen). I hope what appears to
> > be a bug in gnome-print is resolved.
> 
> Have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/111782 . Greg reports his problems
> were fixed by adding "/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts" to the
> "@default_paths" of
> "/usr/share/doc/libgnomeprint-data/run-gnome-font-install" and then running
> "sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnomeprint-data.postinst configure".

THAT'S IT! THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH FOR PERSISTING :-) !!! :-)

Note that I had no problem with gnumeric starting plus I had checked
that my fontmap2 was populated so I had ignored the advice that Greg was
given!

Many thanks,
Adam



Re: seeing umlauts in mutt (works okay in vim, not mutt)

2001-09-11 Thread dman
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:29:12PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
| On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 05:08:48PM -0400, dman wrote:
| > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 03:01:41PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
| > | > on Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 06:28:19PM +0100, Oliver Elphick 
(olly@lfix.co.uk) wrote:
| > | > > Using vim as the editor, I can type Ctrl-k U " or Ctrl-k u "
| > | > > 
| > | > > :dig shows all currently-defined digraphs.
| > | 
| > | (i didn't know about that one, either. vim's got so much i
| > | wonder if even the /author/ knows everything that's in there.)
| > 
| > I don't get this.

Actually, as I read the quoting right now I don't know why I didn't
get this.  I must not have read closely enough last night.

| i was referring to vim operations ^K-keystroke-keystroke and :dig
| (:digraph). very cool. i could learn a new feature about vim
| every hour and i bet it'd take ten years to finish.

Yeah, vim has *lots* of great features, and even some really obscure
ones that I'm sure are useful to someone.

| > | now, who can tell us newbies how to make MUTT dislpay the 8-bit
| > | chars correctly? (i see lots of ? in mutt, but in vim all is
| > | lovely.)
| > 
| > What pager do you use with mutt?
| 
| i've got it defaulting, which i presume is the mutt internal
| pager. 8-bit chars come up as ? instead of ? or ? or ?.  (in vim,
| i occasionally see =D5 =E7 [just made these up; i don't have any
| in front of me to refer to for replication] but most of them look
| fine.)

I don't know how to use the built-in pager.  If I start mutt in a new
account that hasn't yet been configured to use less I get screwed up
because it switches messages when all I wanted to do was scroll down.
(IOW it has different key bindings from less and I haven't learned
them)

-D



Re: kernel 2.2.17 -> 2.2.19

2001-09-11 Thread dman
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 07:15:48AM +0200, Maciej Bobrowski wrote:
| 
| 
| Hi,
| 
| I have debian potato with kernel 2.2.17. there is a kernel-image-2.2.19 at
| http://packages.debian.org/ and some mirrors. I have the deb file.
| Can I simply upgrade my kernel image to 2.2.19 by dpkg program ??. I mean:
| dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.19_2.2.19-2.deb ??
| 
| Or I can use apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19 or something like that
| after apt-get update and adding one mirror with the kernel image v. 2.2.19
| ??

Yep,
apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19

then update your bootloader, try it out, and when you feel confident
that there are no problems on your system you can remove the old
kernel.

-D



Exim questions, inc. use Exchange Server?

2001-09-11 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
I'm trying to send mail from my linux box to the outside world. Our
office's mail server is MS Exchange on NT4 on address 10.0.0.6. My linux
user name is 'rory' whereas my office mail address is 'rory.cl'.

Previously I had Exim sending mail out to the web, but the headers
showed that the mail came from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of '[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]'.
Is it possible to rewrite the headers?

I now have Exim pointed to send through the Exchange Server. However I
get the following error message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: lookup of host "10.10.10.6" failed in smarthost router.

Am I trying to send mail to Exchange over SMTP, and Exchange rejecting
it? My Macintosh client sends mail through 10.10.10.6 fine, including
mail with the "from" address not in our local domain!

Clearly I'm in need of an Exim setup tutorial. I'd be grateful for
pointers.

Cheers!
Rory



Re: fetchmail

2001-09-11 Thread F Zimmermann


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:41:17AM +0100, F Zimmermann wrote:
> >
> > I copied it to ~/.fetchmailrc and run the test option in fetchmailconf
> > (after sending a mail to an echo server). everything looks fine. Fetchmail
> > says it fetching the mail and the deleting it from the server. But i can't
> > find them on my system, neither in /var/spool/mail/frank nor in my home
> > directory.
> >
> > Any hints on where to look for them and what might go wrong??
>
> Do you have a .procmailrc file?
>
> Look in your mail logs to see where your MTA delivered the mail.
>
> Mike

No I don't have a .procmailrc yet. I checked /var/log but could not find
any hint on where they might have gone. As I said, the strange thing is
that it did work and than suddenly I did not recieve an mails and checked
what fetchmail is doing.

Frank



Re: moving '/' to a new disk

2001-09-11 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:16:52PM +0300 or thereabouts, George Karaolides 
wrote:
> 
> Easy.  First mount /dev/md0 somewhere remporary like /mnt, then do
> 
> root# tar cplf - -C / . | tar xvpf - -C /mnt
> 
> the "l" option will make sure tar only archives the local root filesystem,
> not mounted filesystems.  This takes care of /proc as well.
> 
i see.  i've been using the "--exclude-from FILE" option of tar to avoid
copying /proc and /mnt itself.

> Check that the /tmp permissions are 1777, which will break the manpages
> among other things; I seem to recall they were changed once when I did
> this, though it might have been me forgetting to include the "p" option to
> tar.
> 
<...snipped...>

> With /boot on one disk and everything else on RAID1,  your system will
> survive a disk crash but if the disk that died was the one with /boot on
> it, you won't be able to reboot.  It's not too hard to put /boot in a
> RAID1 as well.
> 
why is that?  isn't that with raid1 (mirroring) all contents of hd1 gets
copied to hd2 including /boot?

<...snipped...>

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Re: VIM Behavior Modification

2001-09-11 Thread Rino Mardo
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:12:13PM -0800 or thereabouts, Christopher S. 
Swingley wrote:
> > > I am using vim and am having problems pasting content into a file while
> > > using vim. vim is "auto-indenting" based on the previous line, so the
> > > pasted text is quickly mauled and tabbed out more and more every line
> > > (for large chunks of text, this is completely unmanageable).
> > > 
> > > However, when I am programming, I make use of this feature. How can
> > > I selectively turn this feature on and off?
> 
> You might consider something similar to the following in your .vimrc:
> 
> :autocmd!   " clears autocommands
> 
> :autocmd FileType * set noai" default is not auto-indent
> 
> :autocmd FileType c,cpp,cc set ai   " auto-indent in program code
> 
i tried this on vim 5.6.70 and it doesn't work.  reading the vim help
file i found this:

NOTE: Although a mapping is installed for a specific file type, it will
be used for all buffers.  There are no mappings local to a buffer yet.

so i guess you are using a much later vim version?

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Re: Bug in crontab? Won't work here

2001-09-11 Thread christophe barbé
How is set your visual editor ?
If you use vim, you need to use the -f option (no fork)
otherwise crontab will ever seen empty file.

Christophe

Le lun, 10 sep 2001 20:47:58, Anthony Campbell a écrit :
> On 10 Sep 2001, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > * Anthony Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > > I'm using the current testing distribution. Crontab doesn't work for
> me;
> > > at least it won't create a new crontab file, either as user or as
> root
> > > (although it has removed my own crontab!).
> > > 
> > > Is this a known bug or should I submit it?
> > 
> > Obvious question: is your VISUAL (and/or EDITOR) set?
> > I'm on testing as well, and crontab -e creates new files just fine, as
> > root and as ordinary user.
> > 
> > FWIW, I've seen this happen a couple of times on slowaris, but I never
> > bothered to investigate. Just touch /var/spool/cron/crontabs/,
> and 
> > then crontab -e will work (or at least it does for me).
> > 
> > Dima
> > -- 
> > We're sysadmins. Sanity happens to other people.   --
> Chris King
> > 
> > 
> 
> No, the problem isn't with editing crontab. I can do this and save it,
> but when I exit from the editor it says that no changes have been made
> to the file so I'm back where I started. The rewritten crontab is saved
> to ~/tmp/ but then it just disappears. I know I could edit the file in
> /var/spool/cron/crontab/ but you are not supposed to do that.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
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Re: XML Tool Server problem

2001-09-11 Thread Hamma Scott

--- Jan Ulrich Hasecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Thanks for the quick answer!
> 
> But ... :-( 
> Danie Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Wild shot in the dark. Do you have a jdk
> installed? If not, put a line
> > like this in your sources.list
> > 
> > # Blackdown Java
> > deb
>
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/debian
> woody non-free
> > 
> > and 
> > 
> > apt-get install j2sdk1.3
> 
> I installed jdk1.1 then xae
> I installed j2sdk1.3 then xae
> 
> But no success.
I think that's the right direction. type 
%java -version 
This is to verify you can get to 1.3. If you can't see
it, you might want to try setting JAVA_HOME to the
main subdirectory you installed 1.3 to (probably
/usr/jdk1.3 but check on your system)
and JAVA_PATH set to the bin subdirectory under
JAVA_HOME. Setting environment variables on the fly
(as an exercise for myself) is done by typing the
following:
%export JAVA_HOME=/usr/jdk1.3

Hope this helps

Scott Hamma

P.S. Thanks for the info on an XML editor for emacs.
I'll try to set it up at home and let you know the
outcome. 

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Re: Question about "screen"

2001-09-11 Thread Marc Becher
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:10:30PM +0200, Frederik Vanrenterghem wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using screen on 1 machine with 2 windows, 1 of the windows is used to
> ssh to another machine. Now I would like to start a new screen session on
> that other machine, and be able to create new virtual windows in that
> session (normally ctrl-a ctrl-c).
> 
> Unfortunately, I can start that new screen session, but pressing the
> abovementioned keycombination starts a new virtual window on the first
> machine.
> 
> Any ideas if it's possible to circumvent this problem?
>

hi,

do you ssh from within your screen-session? I guess it won't work then.

For me it works, when I use a blank xterm(or whatever) to ssh and on the
remote machine I have "setenv TERM xterm" in my .cshrc.

hope that helps -- marc



[OT] Re: Evolution

2001-09-11 Thread oivvio polite
This is in no way a debian specific question, but since we're talking about 
Evolution I wonder how it's doing these days. I tried it some six months ago 
and found it a bit to shaky. What's the status today? Is the Palm Pilot sync 
working yet? Does is handle very large folders (like the one for this list) 
any faster then say kmail or other other agents that use simple mbox files? I 
think that I remember some talk about MySQL integration that was supposed to 
make searching gigs of old emails  really snappy. Did that ever happen? Etc 
etc

oivvio

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mozilla support for Java?

2001-09-11 Thread Brian May
Hello,

Does Mozilla support Java or does it not?

>From the description:

 Mozilla is a sophisticated graphical World-Wide-Web browser, with a
 large number of various browser features like support for HTML 4.0,
 CSS 2, JavaScript and Java. Of course, besides the network option, it
 can also be used as a standalone HTML viewer.

Included in the package:

/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-US.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/comm.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/toolkit.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/embed.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/US.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/classic.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/modern.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-unix.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-win.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-mac.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/content-packs.jar
/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/help.jar

however, when I try to view a simple HTML page with
an  tag, I get the following message:

"This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-vm) that
can only be viewd with the appropriate Plug-In. Click OK to download
Plugin."

and:

Java 2 Plug-in Version 1.3

Download the Java Run Time Environment (JRE) v1.3 Plug-in with Java 2
support, for your platform, either Windows or Linux. The plug-in will
take approximately 19 minutes to download with a 56K modem. After the
installation completes, restart the browser, then return to the page
to enjoy all it has to offer.

So, I am feeling a bit confused is it supported, or isn't it? Do I
need this plugin? Will it even work?

a few other issues I have recently encountered with Java on Debian:

- isn't jdk1.1 meant to contain the nonfree Java *.jar files? I
thought so... jdk doesn't seem to like the Kaffe for some unknown
reason). 

[506] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >echo $CLASSPATH
/usr/share/kaffe/Klasses.jar:mm.mysql-2.0.4-bin.jar:.
[507] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >java trial.java  
Can't find class java.lang.System
[508] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >unset CLASSPATH
[509] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >java trial.java
Can't find class java.lang.System


- as a result I have been using jikes to compile instead.

- applets that are compiled with jikes do not seem to run, with either
netscape or kaffe's applet viewer:

/usr/lib/kaffe/bin/appletviewer index.html 
java.lang.ClassFormatError: Bad magic number 0x696d706f
at 
kaffe.lang.SystemClassLoader.findClass0(SystemClassLoader.java:native)
at kaffe.lang.SystemClassLoader.findClass(SystemClassLoader.java:93)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:87)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:76)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:59)
at kaffe.applet.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:301)
at kaffe.applet.AppletViewer.(AppletViewer.java:261)
at kaffe.applet.AppletViewer.main(AppletViewer.java:418)

Netscape reports:

# Applet exception: error: java.lang.ClassFormatError: Bad magic number
java.lang.ClassFormatError: Bad magic number
  at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:250)
  at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:620)
  at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:805)
  at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass1(AppletClassLoader.java:688)
* at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:652)
  at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:629)
  at 
netscape.applet.DerivedAppletFrame$LoadAppletEvent.dispatch(DerivedAppletFrame.java:438)
  at 
java.awt.EventDispatchThread$EventPump.dispatchEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:81)
  at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:135)
  at 
netscape.applet.DerivedAppletFrame$AppletEventDispatchThread.run(DerivedAppletFrame.java:911)

So perhaps I should just download jdk1.2 (assuming 1.3 isn't yet
available for Linux)? Where is the best place to get this from?
-- 
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: Exim questions, inc. use Exchange Server?

2001-09-11 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:53:10AM +0100 or thereabouts, Rory Campbell-Lange 
wrote:
> I'm trying to send mail from my linux box to the outside world. Our
> office's mail server is MS Exchange on NT4 on address 10.0.0.6. My linux
> user name is 'rory' whereas my office mail address is 'rory.cl'.
> 
> Previously I had Exim sending mail out to the web, but the headers
> showed that the mail came from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of '[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]'.
> Is it possible to rewrite the headers?
> 
> I now have Exim pointed to send through the Exchange Server. However I
> get the following error message:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: lookup of host "10.10.10.6" failed in smarthost router.
> 
> Am I trying to send mail to Exchange over SMTP, and Exchange rejecting
> it? My Macintosh client sends mail through 10.10.10.6 fine, including
> mail with the "from" address not in our local domain!
> 
> Clearly I'm in need of an Exim setup tutorial. I'd be grateful for
> pointers.
> 
looks like you need an exchange setup tutorial. :-)

have you already rewrote your headers from your linux box to the right one?
it's in "/etc/email-addresses".

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Re: mozilla support for Java?

2001-09-11 Thread Marc Becher
ho,

you can download j2sdk1.3 (for example) at blackdown.org.
For me this works fine and also the plugin for mozilla
(depends on mozilla-version, some like java and some do not).
You should have java-common and gsfonts-X11 installed for the .deb.
Just make a link from /usr/lib/j2sdk1.3/jre/plugins/i386/javaplugin.so
to your mozilla/plugins directory and most applications should work fine.

I've seen the javaplugins of Netscape6.1 and IBM working with
mozilla too, if you prefer one of those.

hth -- marc



On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 09:02:46PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Does Mozilla support Java or does it not?
> 
> >From the description:
> 
>  Mozilla is a sophisticated graphical World-Wide-Web browser, with a
>  large number of various browser features like support for HTML 4.0,
>  CSS 2, JavaScript and Java. Of course, besides the network option, it
>  can also be used as a standalone HTML viewer.
> 
> Included in the package:
> 
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-US.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/comm.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/toolkit.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/embed.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/US.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/classic.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/modern.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-unix.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-win.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/en-mac.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/content-packs.jar
> /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/help.jar
> 
> however, when I try to view a simple HTML page with
> an  tag, I get the following message:
> 
> "This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-vm) that
> can only be viewd with the appropriate Plug-In. Click OK to download
> Plugin."
> 
> and:
> 
> Java 2 Plug-in Version 1.3
> 
> Download the Java Run Time Environment (JRE) v1.3 Plug-in with Java 2
> support, for your platform, either Windows or Linux. The plug-in will
> take approximately 19 minutes to download with a 56K modem. After the
> installation completes, restart the browser, then return to the page
> to enjoy all it has to offer.
> 
> So, I am feeling a bit confused is it supported, or isn't it? Do I
> need this plugin? Will it even work?
> 
> a few other issues I have recently encountered with Java on Debian:
> 
> - isn't jdk1.1 meant to contain the nonfree Java *.jar files? I
> thought so... jdk doesn't seem to like the Kaffe for some unknown
> reason). 
> 
> [506] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >echo $CLASSPATH
> /usr/share/kaffe/Klasses.jar:mm.mysql-2.0.4-bin.jar:.
> [507] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >java trial.java  
> Can't find class java.lang.System
> [508] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >unset CLASSPATH
> [509] [snoopy:unstable:bam] /home/photos/java >java trial.java
> Can't find class java.lang.System
> 
> 
> - as a result I have been using jikes to compile instead.
> 
> - applets that are compiled with jikes do not seem to run, with either
> netscape or kaffe's applet viewer:
> 
> /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/appletviewer index.html 
> java.lang.ClassFormatError: Bad magic number 0x696d706f
>   at 
> kaffe.lang.SystemClassLoader.findClass0(SystemClassLoader.java:native)
>   at kaffe.lang.SystemClassLoader.findClass(SystemClassLoader.java:93)
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:87)
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:76)
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:59)
>   at kaffe.applet.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:301)
>   at kaffe.applet.AppletViewer.(AppletViewer.java:261)
>   at kaffe.applet.AppletViewer.main(AppletViewer.java:418)
> 
> Netscape reports:
> 
> # Applet exception: error: java.lang.ClassFormatError: Bad magic number
> java.lang.ClassFormatError: Bad magic number
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:250)
>   at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:620)
>   at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:805)
>   at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass1(AppletClassLoader.java:688)
> * at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:652)
>   at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:629)
>   at 
> netscape.applet.DerivedAppletFrame$LoadAppletEvent.dispatch(DerivedAppletFrame.java:438)
>   at 
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread$EventPump.dispatchEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:81)
>   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:135)
>   at 
> netscape.applet.DerivedAppletFrame$AppletEventDispatchThread.run(DerivedAppletFrame.java:911)
> 
> So perhaps I should just download jdk1.2 (assuming 1.3 isn't yet
> available for Linux)? Where is the best place to get this from?
> -- 
> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
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Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Clark
I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
messages across my many mail folders. I know  works
within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
unread messages.

Is there an easier way?

-- 
Paul Clark



exim

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

Does anybody knows what i have to do, to deliver a local written mail
to exim?

Timo

--
Wer Käse mag, der futtert auch Füsse!

 :-)



Re: mozilla support for Java?

2001-09-11 Thread Hall Stevenson
>  Mozilla is a sophisticated graphical World-Wide-Web
> browser, with a large number of various browser features
> like support for HTML 4.0, CSS 2, JavaScript and Java...

It has *support* for Java, it just doesn't include it with the
package. As someone's already mentioned, you have to download
it seperately and install it. It does work though.

Hall



Re: XML Tool Server problem

2001-09-11 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Hi Hamma,

I think j2sdk1.3 is correctly installed.

% java -version
java version "1.3.1"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS, mixed mode)

But I've discovered some strange pathes in xae.el

For example in 
(defmethod xae-start ((this xae-xml-tool-server) &optional display-buffer-p)
  "Start the XML tool server."
[snipped]
  (expand-file-name "xsl-engines/saxon/saxon.jar" 
[snipped]

My saxon.jar is in /usr/share/java

OK, I am not an lisp-expert. But it looks strange. 

Hamma Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> %export JAVA_HOME=/usr/jdk1.3

I'll fiddle around with this.
 
> P.S. Thanks for the info on an XML editor for emacs.
> I'll try to set it up at home and let you know the
> outcome. 

I hope you will succeed!

Ciao!
juh

-- 
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Re: procmail syntax problem

2001-09-11 Thread John Ericson
Thank you! 

That solved it and thanks again for the profound help.

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* web: http://john.pp.se



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread ktb
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote:
> I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
> messages across my many mail folders. I know  works
> within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
> unread messages.
> 
> Is there an easier way?

I start mutt with "mutt -y" which shows what folders contain new
messages.  Then iterate through them with "c + enter"
hth,
kent

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Re: fetchmail

2001-09-11 Thread Hall Stevenson

> I copied it to ~/.fetchmailrc and run the test option in
> fetchmailconf (after sending a mail to an echo server).
> everything looks fine. Fetchmail says it fetching the
> mail and the deleting it from the server. But i can't find
> them on my system, neither in /var/spool/mail/frank
> nor in my home
> directory.
>
> Any hints on where to look for them and what might go
> wrong??

Make sure you have an MTA (exim, sendmail, etc) running. A
fetchmail log file would help you out also, but you don't have
one defined in your .fetchmailrc file. Check the manual on the
proper syntax for it. It's probably something simple like
this:

set logfile "~/.fetchmail.log"


Regards
Hall



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Danie Roux
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote:
> I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
> messages across my many mail folders. I know  works
> within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
> unread messages.
> 
> Is there an easier way?
> 
> -- 
> Paul Clark

c changes to a folder with new mail in it.

Anyone know how to make that little delay between folders changing
dissapear?

-- 
Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix



Re: exim

2001-09-11 Thread Marc Becher
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
> 
> Does anybody knows what i have to do, to deliver a local written mail
> to exim?
> 
> Timo

hum, nothing than configuring exim (have a look at eximconfig) and writing
emails (you should try mailx or mutt or whatever you did not configure to
send email otherwise).

-- marc



Re: printing

2001-09-11 Thread Brian Stults

Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:


Firstly, is there a recommended way of doing printing with Debian? I
see various mentions of LPD, LPRng, CUPS, PDQ and printtool, and there
are a large number of printer-related packages in the archive, many of
which conflict with one another, but I can't find a document to help
me decide what to install.

I tried printtool, but it says it can't find my parallel port. Well,
the printer does react when I do "modprobe parport_pc" or "echo foo >
/dev/lp0", so there is some kind of physical connection.

My printer's a Canon BJC-4300 and it has worked with Debian before,
but it was years ago and I can't remember how I did it. Chances are
everything will have changed by now, anyway.

Yes, I did look at The Printing HOWTO, but it doesn't say very much
about parallel ports and I can't have much confidence in a document
that talks about "kernels >= 2.1.33" when I'm running 2.4.8.




I used lprng for years, but switched to cups about 6 months ago.  I much 
prefer it, but I'm sure others might disagree.  If you decide to go with 
cups, I have some instructions that might be useful.  They are here:


http://mumford1.dyndns.org/~bs7452/linuxhelp/cups.html

Keep in mind that I wrote this for a friend, so it is by no means a 
complete HOWTO or anything.  It is also no substitute for the CUPS 
documentation which is very complete.  However, my instructions are 
specific to debian, and IMHO easier to follow.  You can ignore the stuff 
about samba since you will be using the parallel port (which is what I 
use at work).  My friend and I both run sid, so it's possible things may 
be slightly different for stable or testing.


Good luck!



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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Paul Clark (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:37:28PM +0100):
> I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
> messages across my many mail folders. I know  works
> within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
> unread messages.

list your mailboxes in .muttrc with the mailboxes command, then use
the letter 'c' to switch mailboxes - it'll switch to the next mailbox
with unread messages.

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 we elect a six-pack of presidents.
 each one serves until they screw up,
 at which point they rotate."
  -- dennis miller



Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Hall Stevenson
> I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to
unread
> messages across my many mail folders. I know  works
> within folders but that means I have to try every folder to
find
> unread messages.
>
> Is there an easier way?

Look into mutt's 'mailbox' setting. When properly setup, you
can start mutt with 'mutt -y' (Paul Clark's already mentioned
most of this), and you'll get something a list of your
mailboxes. Ones with new mail in them will be flagged with an
'N'. Cursor to that mailbox, hit enter, and read the messages.
When you're done in the mailbox, hit the letter 'c' and mutt
will default to the 'next' mailbox with new mail in it. Simply
hit enter to go to it. Repeat endlessly (depending on how fast
you read, how much mail you get, and how you check for mail).

Hall



AW: mail server

2001-09-11 Thread Christian Schoenebeck


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Martin F Krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2001 17:44
An: Christian Schoenebeck
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: mail server


> also sprach Christian Schoenebeck (on Mon, 10 Sep 2001 04:32:37PM +0200):

:)) verrückt!

> use postfix (always use postfix :->) and add
>
> defer_transports = smtp
>
> into the main.cf file, then your mailq will be emptied only when you
> execute `sendmail -q` or `postfix flush`, which you can conventienly
> run from /etc/ppp/ip-up.d

Ok, I can configure postfix to send all outgoing users' mails to one
smtp relay host of an ISP, but I can't see a way to get postfix to
fetch mails from several ISPs or have I overseen something?
Again, do I have to use fetchmail for this???

Christian



Network Printer

2001-09-11 Thread Olivier Billet
Hi,

I'm trying to configure a printer (parallel device) on a box (say
box1) connected to another box via ethernet (say box2).

Now, I would like to print from box2 ! I added the hostname of box2 in
the /etc/allow.lpd and have IP accounting in the kernel.

By the way, I'm using apsfilter on box2 and magicfilter on box1, and
set both the rigth way (just as described in the LP-HOWTO).
Now I'm able to print from box1 but not from box2 and seeking in
/var/log/syslog revealed to me that there was a connection attempt
that was refused...


So what should I do ?


Thanks,
Olivier.




PS: please CC me as I'm not currently on the list.



Re: moving '/' to a new disk

2001-09-11 Thread George Karaolides

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Rino Mardo wrote:

> i see.  i've been using the "--exclude-from FILE" option of tar to avoid
> copying /proc and /mnt itself.

No, way too much trouble and too easy to get wrong.  The "l" option is
what you want.

> > With /boot on one disk and everything else on RAID1,  your system will
> > survive a disk crash but if the disk that died was the one with /boot on
> > it, you won't be able to reboot.  It's not too hard to put /boot in a
> > RAID1 as well.
> > 
> why is that?  isn't that with raid1 (mirroring) all contents of hd1 gets
> copied to hd2 including /boot?

In Linux Software RAID, the RAID arrays are made up of partitions, not
disks.  The person who originally asked the question has /boot in a
separate partition outside of any RAID array.  

In the following, RAID means "Linux Software RAID".  Hardware RAID makes
the array (of disks, not partitions) appear as one disk to Linux and none
of this applies. 

It used to be that you couldn't boot off RAID, so you used to actually
have to have /boot in a partition outside of any RAID array.  If you
wanted redundancy you had to make another /boot partition on another
disk and mirror it manually every time you installed a new kernel image
or otherwise changed /boot.

Newer versions of lilo can boot off RAID1, so you can have the root
filesystem on RAID1 without a separate /boot filesystem.  If you want to
have the root fs on RAID5, you have to have /boot in its own RAID1; lilo
can't (yet?) boot off RAID5.

As I observed before, even with everything including /boot in RAID arrays,
if the bootloader is installed in the MBR of only one disk and that disk
dies, your system becomes unbootable.

If anyone wants a blow-by-blow account of how to set up Linux so that
everything from the MBR on is redundant, please start by searching the
May, June and July archives of this list for "RAID"; I started a thread
when I was trying to do it.  Most of the answers should be in there.

George Karaolides   8, Costakis Pantelides St.,
tel:   +35 79 68 08 86   Strovolos, 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Nicosia CY 2057,
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Galeon problem solved!

2001-09-11 Thread Richard Cobbe
First, I'd like to thank Karsten Self & Steven Yap for their help in
getting Galeon up and running.  I must say, I'm quite impressed with this
particular browser.

Also, apologies for the length of time between last posting and this
message, and apologies that I didn't follow up in-thread.

A couple of notes to those who might be interested in checking this out.
(These are mostly geared toward those who will be compiling Galeon from
source, rather than installing the pre-packaged .debs.  Due to what I think
is a misconfiguration in my company's external firewall, I don't appear to
be able to connect to remote FTP sites reliably.)

1) Galeon tends to be quite sensitive to your Mozilla install.  Upgrading
   mozilla will likely break Galeon, requiring at the least a rebuild.

2) This can cause some difficulties if you rely, as I do, on Ximian's
   Mozilla packages.  (I tried downloading Mozilla 0.9.1 from mozilla.org
   yesterday; it didn't work.)  I destroyed my galeon 0.11.5 build
   yesterday by upgrading to mozilla 0.9.3.  It would appear that galeon
   0.11.5 won't even build against mozilla 0.9.3, let alone run, but I'm
   not entirely sure of this---I was fairly frustrated yesterday morning as
   I was attempting to rebuild things.

3) Galeon versions 0.12 and (presumably) later use the gconf system to
   manage configuration details.  Unfortunately, the documentation doesn't
   explain how to set up the necessary config file hierarchy to allow
   Galeon to start the first time.

   Steven Yap suggested running
gconftool --install-schema-file /etc/gconf/schemas/*
   to provide Galeon with the stuff it needs.  This was close, but not
   quite correct.  On my system, at least, I had to specify
gconftool --install-schema-file /usr/local/etc/gconf/schemas/*
   Presumably, it depends on where you've installed Galeon.

Hope this proves useful,

Richard
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Re: mail server

2001-09-11 Thread 'Martin F Krafft'
also sprach Christian Schoenebeck (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:51:19PM +0200):
> Ok, I can configure postfix to send all outgoing users' mails to one
> smtp relay host of an ISP, but I can't see a way to get postfix to
> fetch mails from several ISPs or have I overseen something?
> Again, do I have to use fetchmail for this???

sorry if i missed your question about that... the only mailserver i
know that can do this is MDaemon for windoze. with any of exim,
postfix, qmail, sendmail, fetchmail is what you'll need to use to get
mail from a pop account into the server.

or, if you know that you'll be connected at least once in three days,
then get dynamic dns going so that whenever you are online, your
machine is known with a name globally over the net, then ask your ISP
to set up forwarding for the entire domain to that dynamic host name,
and whenever you come back up, send an ETRN to the isp and all the
queued mail will trickle in... no passwords, failproof, beautiful.

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
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it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'ok' first.


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RE: fetchmail

2001-09-11 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
> Hi,
>
> I have a strange problem with fetchmail. It worked all fine but I was
> wondering why i was not getting any mails in the past weeks. So I sent a
> messeage from my account at university and I didn't recieve it. I usually
> run fetchmail automatically when I go online with pon. this is my
> fetchmail-up script:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> export LOGNAME=root
> export HOME=root
> test -r /etc/fetchmailrc && \
> /usr/bin/fetchmail --invisible -v -a --fetchmailrc
> /etc/fetchmailrc
>
> and here is my fetchmailrc:
>
> set syslog
> set postmaster "frank"
> set nobouncemail
> set properties ""
> set daemon 900
> poll mail.uklinux.net proto pop3
> user xx there  with password  is frank here warnings
> 3600
>
> I copied it to ~/.fetchmailrc and run the test option in fetchmailconf
> (after sending a mail to an echo server). everything looks fine. Fetchmail
> says it fetching the mail and the deleting it from the server. But i can't
> find them on my system, neither in /var/spool/mail/frank nor in my home
> directory.
>
> Any hints on where to look for them and what might go wrong??
>
> Thanks,
>   Frank

Greetings,
I had a similar problem and could not work out a resolution, so I 
deleted
the daemon reference in my .fetchmailrc and used a crontab to run it.  It's
not the best thing to do, but it's practical.

HTH,

Brooks



Re: Bug in crontab? Won't work here

2001-09-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Sep 2001, christophe barb? wrote:
> How is set your visual editor ?
> If you use vim, you need to use the -f option (no fork)
> otherwise crontab will ever seen empty file.
> 
> Christophe
> 

No, that isn't it. What I have found is that if vim has a .vimrc file
crontab -e doesn't work. Even an empty .vimrc has this effect. 

Anthony

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Re: Galeon problem solved!

2001-09-11 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2001-09-11 at 14:18, Richard Cobbe wrote:
> 1) Galeon tends to be quite sensitive to your Mozilla install.  Upgrading
>mozilla will likely break Galeon, requiring at the least a rebuild.

Correction - Galeon is extremely sensitive to Mozilla versions.  Mozilla
change the embed API frequently which breaks the source, and two C++
modules which link (galeon -> mozilla) must both be compiled wit the
same C++ compiler which complicates matters more.

> 3) Galeon versions 0.12 and (presumably) later use the gconf system to
>manage configuration details.  Unfortunately, the documentation doesn't
>explain how to set up the necessary config file hierarchy to allow
>Galeon to start the first time.

Interesting.  I've found the default "make install" rules to work fine,
but then again I do have GConf in /usr.  May I suggest trying the galeon
packages from unstable?  They work very well for me.

Ross




Re: exim

2001-09-11 Thread Marc Becher
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:47:06PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday Sep 11 14:42 Marc Becher wrote:
> 
> > ** On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
> > ** > 
> > ** > Does anybody knows what i have to do, to deliver a local written mail
> > ** > to exim?
> > ** > 
> > ** > Timo
> > ** 
> > ** hum, nothing than configuring exim (have a look at eximconfig) and 
> > writing
> > ** emails (you should try mailx or mutt or whatever you did not configure to
> > ** send email otherwise).
> 
> Damned! I mean an exim option. Sorry for my short statemant.
> 
> Timo
>

Excuse me for being so stupid.
You mean an exim option to deliver a local written mail to exim?
^^
Sorry, that seems a little hard to understand.

-- marc



exim II

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

Hi!

While i'm trying to deliver any mail file to exim i get the idea that

# exim -bS 

could do this. but after some minutes i only get this error message:

421 SMTP command timeout
Transaction started in line 0
Error detected in line 0

What does this mean? And which line 0 of which file or what?

Timo

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 :-)



Re: exim

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

On Tuesday Sep 11 14:42 Marc Becher wrote:

> ** On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
> ** > 
> ** > Does anybody knows what i have to do, to deliver a local written mail
> ** > to exim?
> ** > 
> ** > Timo
> ** 
> ** hum, nothing than configuring exim (have a look at eximconfig) and writing
> ** emails (you should try mailx or mutt or whatever you did not configure to
> ** send email otherwise).

Damned! I mean an exim option. Sorry for my short statemant.

Timo

--
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 :-)



Trying to install on Sparc

2001-09-11 Thread mark damerell
Sparcstation 2 ROM rev 2.0, 2nd hand, 2 disks & no root PW.

I downloaded from

ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-sparc
/current/sun4cdm/images-1.44

First try: downloaded rescue.bin and
rawrite2 (from /debian/tools) to a PC, unpacked rawrite,
ran

rawrite2 rescue.bin  A:

no visible error. Put the disk into the sparc,
did
b floppy

and got the error:

boot device /fd  file & args vmunix
cant read disk label
cant open Sun disk label package
cant open boot device

2nd try: tftp

Downloaded  tftpboot.img  into another machine's /tftpboot
setup symbolic links pointing to that file, put data into
/etc/ethers  &  /etc/hosts  rebuilt the NIS , did

boot net

and got
file and args: vmunix
receive failed
file just loaded not executable

but I suspect this is a deceptive message, I saw no sign
that anything got downloaded. Unfortunately the  tftpd
on the server (an old sun3/60 ) seems to have no provision
to log.

Please any advice?





Re: fetchmail

2001-09-11 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:29:48AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
>   I had a similar problem and could not work out a resolution, so I 
> deleted
> the daemon reference in my .fetchmailrc and used a crontab to run it.  It's
> not the best thing to do, but it's practical.

I've found fetchmail buggy if you leave it up too long, so I also run it
on a crontab. After a while it just wouldn't download mail anymore, unless
I killed it and restarted it. 

Mike

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bad adverts (was Re: Web banner blocker)

2001-09-11 Thread Wendell Cochran
Karsten M. Self wrote:

> My PoV isn't that all advertising is evil (though the vast majority is),
but that *evil* advertising is evil.

Much advertising nowadays meets the definition of _spam_.

Advertising can sell.  Alas, most Web advertising UNsells.



Re: fetchmail

2001-09-11 Thread Peter S Galbraith

"Michael P. Soulier" wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:29:48AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > I had a similar problem and could not work out a resolution, so
> I deleted
> > the daemon reference in my .fetchmailrc and used a crontab to run it.
> It's
> > not the best thing to do, but it's practical.
> 
> I've found fetchmail buggy if you leave it up too long, so I also
> run it
> on a crontab. After a while it just wouldn't download mail anymore,
> unless
> I killed it and restarted it. 

My mileage varies from yours.  I leave it up for over a month at
a time without incident, fetching mail every 30 seconds.



Re: PPC Problems

2001-09-11 Thread Sebastiaan
High,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Jamie McLaughlin wrote: 

> I have a question regarding the installation of Linux on an Apple
> PowerBook running a G3. 
> 
> I read through the "Installing on a PowerPC" but did not find any
> information on how to make Linux the ONLY OS on the computer.  I do not
> want OS9.x on it, I need Linux.  I have had many problems with booting
> to a different OS.  Once the boot disk is gone there is no way to get it
> back. 
> 
> I guess my question would be "How do I install Linux on a PowerBook G3
> without having to dual boot?" 
> 
> I hope there is some good news for this. 
> 

Please wrap your lines at 72 chars. Thanks.

I have done this with an 'old style' power mac, but the new style work
somewhat different. I found the answer in the Yellow Dog Linux
documentation (www.ydl.com, chapter 6.9-6.10). This is more ore less what
you  should do:
use yaboot as your boot loader, and boot into the open firmware of your
mac (command+option+o+f during bootup). There type:
setenv boot-device hd:,\\yaboot

(you can view the other variables by typing 'printenv'). Then type 'boot'
to boot into yaboot and from there into Linux. Be aware that every time
MacOS is loaded, the OF resets to default (damned mac's). You can also
reset it manually by pressing command+option+p+r.
Also, by default the input/ouput for OF is serial, so you need a program
that runs under MacOS to redirect the i/o to keyboard/screen. More info
about OF and Linux can be found at www.netbsd.org->powerpc.

There is also some info at:
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ybin/

It is also a good idea to subscribe to debian-powerpc. There are the
people with powerpc experience.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan




RE: Web banner blocker

2001-09-11 Thread Wayne Brown
Check out Adzapper, there is an extension for squid too. you can use a web
browser to configure or hack the config files yourself, sorry I dont have
the url with me. (Not a Deb though)
You could also look at Junkbuster.

Regards
Wayne.


-Original Message-
From: Ross Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 September 2001 20:42
To: Debian Users
Subject: Web banner blocker


Hi,

I'm looking for a good web cache/banner remove program for Debian
unstable.  Previously I've used Squid + Sleezeball, but Sleezeball
hasn't been updated since November 1999.  :-(

Can anyone recommend a good banner blocker?  I don't want entire pages
blocked so SquidGuard is an overkill, but the banner adverts removed.

Thanks,
Ross Burton


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of the Business Objects, how can the si\-mi\-larity (at the

2001-09-11 Thread Bas van Gils

Hi everyone,

just recently I installed gpg on my machine (that is, after reading the
article in Linux Journal). It works together with mutt brilliantly. No
problem there. 

Now, I read a lot of debian mailinglists and noticed that a lot (all ?)
of people in the Debian-organization post with a PGP-signature. Mutt
"complains" that it can't verify the signatures because it doesn't have
the public-keys in my key-ring. Makes sense ;-) 

I was wondering: is there an (easy) way of importing the keys of these
people in my key-ring? Or do I have to look-up these keys at a
key-server and import them 1 by 1 

yours

Bas

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Re: DHCP over cable

2001-09-11 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi G,

I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well,
When I did my Debian install, the network config part
asked if I wanted a static or dynamic IP. I said dynamic
and it worked fine.
I believe at this point, pump gets installed. I don't know for sure.
Anyway, My /etc/network/interfaces looks like this:

iface lo inet loopback
iface eth0 inet dhcp

I would guess you need to install pump.

HTH,
Mike

Quoting "G. Crimp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi,
> 
>   I need help setting up a dhcp client. I have recently been told by
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], my cable ISP, that they will be moving to an entirely 
> dynamic
> setup from a hybrid dynamic/static one.  I tried setting up dhcpcd once
> several months ago when I suddenly found myself with no DNS.  They had
> changed the IPs of the servers, given to me as part of my static setup,
> without giving any notice.  I figured I would move to a dynamic
> configuration to avoid this in the future, but I couldn't get it to
> work. 
> Now I have no choice.
> 
>   If anyone is connected via cable, especially if you are a Shaw
> customer (Vancouver, BC), I'd love to hear how you are setup.  Which
> dhcp
> client do you use (pump, dhcpcd, etc) ?  What does your configuration
> file
> look like ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> G
> 
> 
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Re: Evolution

2001-09-11 Thread Robert L. Harris


Bingo.  I installed the ssl version and I can see my mail, contacts and calendar
entries.  Now if I can figure out how to get contacts and calendar in 
contact/calendar
format...


Thus spake Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> "Robert L. Harris" wrote:
> > 
> > I start it up, do the 'subscribe to folders' and they're all visable, I 
> > select
> > and hit ok.  I can't find the folders.  Go back to the subscription list and
> > they're selected/checked.
> > 
> > Where's the silly "INBOX" and friends?
> 
>   did you enable the folder bar? (in view menu) - you should see the
> Summary, Local Folders, any NNTP (newsgroups) servers you defined and
> all IMAP servers you defined (as well as the folders on those servers).
> 
>   also, check if you need SSL connection (then you need to install
> evolution-ssl, that's recent change, previously the evolution package
> supported ssl)
> 
>   btw you have better chance to get good answers if you send the
> follow-up Qs to the list...
> 
>   erik
> 
> > Thanks,
> >   Robert
> > 
> > Thus spake Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > 
> > > "Robert L. Harris" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Is anyone working with Evolution and IMAP?  I'm trying to get mine
> > > > working with an exchange server.  Windows admin says IMAP is up and on
> > > > but I'm not having much luck.  I say to check mail, it asks for a pass
> > > > but doesn't show me my inbox.  I'm not getting any errors either.
> > >
> > >   I used it successfully with imap server on linux machine (uw-imap).
> > >
> > >   erik
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > :wq!
> > ---
> > Robert L. Harris|  Micros~1 :
> > Senior System Engineer  |For when quality, reliability
> >   at RnD Consulting |  and security just aren't
> > \_   that important!
> > DISCLAIMER:
> >   These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.
> > FYI:
> >  perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'



:wq!
---
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Senior System Engineer  |For when quality, reliability 
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\_   that important!
DISCLAIMER:
  These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.
FYI:
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Voodoo3 on potato with X 3.3.6

2001-09-11 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all,

I've searched the archives, and elsewhere, but all the useful info seems
to be about installing with X 4 (which isn't in potato(?)), or on
redhat, or occasionally on Debian by using redhat packages.

Is there no way to get 3d from this card using standard debian packages
on a stable installation?

Any help appreciated,

Many thanks,

Richard



Solidarity

2001-09-11 Thread gerard robin

Excuse me ,I am of topic with linux but
all my thoughts are with the americains,
specially the innocent victims.
-- 
Gerard



Re: mail server

2001-09-11 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:26:58PM +0200 or thereabouts, 'Martin F Krafft' 
wrote:
> sorry if i missed your question about that... the only mailserver i
> know that can do this is MDaemon for windoze. with any of exim,
> postfix, qmail, sendmail, fetchmail is what you'll need to use to get
> mail from a pop account into the server.
> 
i've heard people talk about how IMAP and how IMAP works even with the
broken POP3 of exchange.  would IMAP be a better alternative to
fetchmail?

> or, if you know that you'll be connected at least once in three days,
> then get dynamic dns going so that whenever you are online, your
> machine is known with a name globally over the net, then ask your ISP
> to set up forwarding for the entire domain to that dynamic host name,
> and whenever you come back up, send an ETRN to the isp and all the
> queued mail will trickle in... no passwords, failproof, beautiful.
> 
just how do you send an ETRN?  is that the command itself?

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Re: mail server

2001-09-11 Thread 'Martin F Krafft'
also sprach Rino Mardo (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:50:07PM +0800):
> i've heard people talk about how IMAP and how IMAP works even with the
> broken POP3 of exchange.  would IMAP be a better alternative to
> fetchmail?

you still need fetchmail unless you are fine with only using IMAP mail
while connected.

> just how do you send an ETRN?  is that the command itself?

man fetchmail.

do you know your way well with the ideas underlying POP3, IMAP, and
SMTP, and do you know the differences between MTA, MDA, and MUA?

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Re: Good mail management techniques?

2001-09-11 Thread Patrick Albuquerque
An interesting approach might be remembrance agents, from

http://www.media.mit.edu/~rhodes/RA/

Remembrance Agents are a set of applications that watch over a
user's shoulder and suggest information relevant to the
current situation.  While query-based memory aids help with
direct recall, remembrance agents are an augmented associative
memory. For example, the word-processor version of the RA
continuously updates a list of documents relevant to what's
being typed or read in an emacs buffer.  These suggested
documents can be any text files that might be relevant to what
you are currently writing or reading. They might be old emails
related to the mail you are currently reading, or abstracts
from papers and newspaper articles that discuss the topic of
your writing.

Has anyone tried this?  It's released under GNU but requires emacs
which I'm not familiar with :-(

Patrick.



RE: Solidarity

2001-09-11 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
> Excuse me ,I am of topic with linux but
> all my thoughts are with the americains,
> specially the innocent victims.
> -- 
> Gerard
Thanks.  We will be in mourning for some time.



Finger Command

2001-09-11 Thread Nick Furman
Can someone tell me where finger gets it's information on the system, when
it displays when the user last checked their email.  I guess it reads
/var/spool/mail/(user) for the date of mail last received, but I am
unclear where it gets the information for when the user last checked mail.

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,

Nicholas K. Furman
Systems & Network Administrator
J-Link Computer & Internet Services
157 West Main Street   Ph:(570)389-6400
Bloomsburg, PA 17815   http://www.jlink.net



Re: Question about "screen"

2001-09-11 Thread Alan Shutko
Frederik Vanrenterghem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm using screen on 1 machine with 2 windows, 1 of the windows is used to
> ssh to another machine. Now I would like to start a new screen session on
> that other machine, and be able to create new virtual windows in that
> session (normally ctrl-a ctrl-c).

The problem is that the C-a you type is captured by the first screen,
and not passed on.  Either set a different escape character on the
second machine, or hit C-a twice, ie C-a C-a C-c.

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PGP

2001-09-11 Thread Bas van Gils
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 05:43:34PM +0200, Bas van Gils wrote:
> [cut]

sorry everyone ... I used the wrong subject-line for my previous
Email... I cut'n'pasted it and something went wrong there...

Bas



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Re: Finger Command

2001-09-11 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Nick Furman (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:50:30PM -0400):
> Can someone tell me where finger gets it's information on the system, when
> it displays when the user last checked their email.  I guess it reads
> /var/spool/mail/(user) for the date of mail last received, but I am
> unclear where it gets the information for when the user last checked mail.

it's either mtime or atime of the inode of that user's mailbox.

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Re: exim

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

On Tuesday Sep 11 16:11 Marc Becher wrote:

> ** Excuse me for being so stupid.
> ** You mean an exim option to deliver a local written mail to exim?
> ** ^^
> ** Sorry, that seems a little hard to understand.

H...  Don't know how i could write this esyer.

Bevore exim is able to send any mail, there must be a mail in exims
queue list...  in exim...  into the exim system...  how you like.

And to put a mail into exims queue list, you can use an exim option.
An option that deliver this mail to exim. To exims queue list.

Or do you think exim produces my mails by himself?

It's great to have a working -q option to send the mails waiting in
queue list. But what do you will do with exim -q, if there is no
option to put a mail into this list? There is no reason to use
option -q if no mail is waiting in exim. So i have to deliver a
mail to exim bevore i can call exim to send this mail out.

Do you understand me now?

Timo

--
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 :-)



Re: exim

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

On Tuesday Sep 11 16:11 Marc Becher wrote:
> ** On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:47:06PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
> ** > 
> ** > On Tuesday Sep 11 14:42 Marc Becher wrote:
> ** > 
> ** > > ** On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
> ** > > ** > 
> ** > > ** > Does anybody knows what i have to do, to deliver a local written 
> mail
> ** > > ** > to exim?
> ** > > ** > 
> ** > > ** > Timo
> ** > > ** 
> ** > > ** hum, nothing than configuring exim (have a look at eximconfig) and 
> writing
> ** > > ** emails (you should try mailx or mutt or whatever you did not 
> configure to
> ** > > ** send email otherwise).
> ** > 
> ** > Damned! I mean an exim option. Sorry for my short statemant.
> ** > 
> ** > Timo
> ** >
> ** 
> ** Excuse me for being so stupid.
> ** You mean an exim option to deliver a local written mail to exim?
> ** ^^
> ** Sorry, that seems a little hard to understand.
> ** 
> ** -- marc
> ** 
> ** 
> ** -- 
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Re: Latest woody upgrade to causes fonts in X to disappear

2001-09-11 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:27:18AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:07:35PM -0700, Bob Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:13:04AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> > > I did an 'apt-get upgrade' to my testing system yesterday and got > 50
> > > MB of upgraded packages(!)
> > > 
> > > This upgrade included version 4.10 of X. I notice now that on a large
> > > number of applications, such as the Gnome desktop and applications
> > > which have pop-up or drop-down menus, that the text has been replaced
> > > by squares (in fact, this makes Gnome essentially unusable; switching
> > > to kde restored much of the functionality).  I assume this means that a
> > > particular font got messed up by the upgrade, but I really don't know
> > > where to look.  Has anyone else seen this (and found a solution)?
> > 
> > Thanks for all the suggestions.  I found the answer in another thread
> > which suggested changing the order of the "fonts" section in
> > XF86Config-4.
> 
> ...to what?
> 

Section "Files"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
EndSection


This is from the mail archives (Re: Weird font problem with gnumeric,
gimp and others):

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user20010109/msg00426.html

I have not found any good explanation of why the problem occurred,
however.

Bob



alsa-modules with 2.4.9 kernel

2001-09-11 Thread Martin F Krafft
some major weirdness. i compile my own kernel, flavour "piper", so i
get kernel-image-2.4.9+piper (this is woody), which installs its
modules in /lib/modules/2.4.9/

when i compile alsa-source or pcmcia-source, the modules get placed
into /lib/modules/2.4.9+piper/{pcmcia,alsa}, which is neither the
right modules tree, nor are modules supposed to go there with 2.4.x.
that's what kernel/drivers/{pcmcia,alsa} would be for.

did anyone ever compile the alsa-modules or pcmcia-modules with a
2.4.9 kernel - the debian way?

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Re: mozilla support for Java?

2001-09-11 Thread Georges Goncalves
Le -09.11.2001 14:04:48-, « Marc Becher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) »
a écrit quelques phrases célèbres sur « Re: mozilla support for Java? »

MB> you can download j2sdk1.3 (for example) at blackdown.org.
MB> For me this works fine and also the plugin for mozilla
MB> (depends on mozilla-version, some like java and some do not).
MB> You should have java-common and gsfonts-X11 installed for the .deb.
MB> Just make a link from /usr/lib/j2sdk1.3/jre/plugins/i386/javaplugin.so
MB> to your mozilla/plugins directory and most applications should work fine.
MB> 
MB> I've seen the javaplugins of Netscape6.1 and IBM working with
MB> mozilla too, if you prefer one of those.

I also had lots of problems with Java and I finally installed a JRE (I have 
both Sun JRE and IBM JRE and I can switch easily) and it works most of the time 
! 

BUT, I still have a big problem ! Some sites (mostly online games sites) don't 
work ! For example, a french site doesn't load the applet (which is a JAR 
file). http://www.flipside.fr -> go to the bottom of page and select "Reussite" 
(next to a yellow bubble) -> On the next screen, mostly at top, click on the 
"JOUER" arrow at right. It opens a new window and tries to load the applet (a 
JAR file) and my JRE (IBM, which is quite verbose) just says it is loading the 
JAR file and that's all... nothing more happens :(

I don't know what to try more ! I've played with the HELPERS configuration in 
Mozilla (no succes) and tried everything I could think of

Any idea ?

Greetings,
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Woody hangs sometimes! Why?

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

Dear Woody users!

Do you had seen this too? Sometimes there cames a green line from the left
till the right side on top of the screen while working with Gnome and the
system hangs absolute. Then a reboot is needed.

This system crash not happens by using a determined application. At first 
time it happens while starting xmms. Today by sending a mail with balsa. 
And yesterday by opening a gnome-terminal. So i can say, whenever any new 
process is starting, the system could begin to crash.

I looked into some log files but couldn't find anything. Is this a bug
cause woody isn't stable yet?

Which log files could have informations about this system crash?

Timo

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Re: Woody hangs sometimes! Why?

2001-09-11 Thread Rick Macdonald

Search the archive for a thread "Gnome freezes". A couple of us had
problems of sawfish hanging due to sound effects being turned on for
window open/close events. I turned off gnome sounds _and_ sawfish sounds
and now I'm OK. My i810 sound in the laptop either isn't configured
properly or the sound driver has problems.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Timeboy wrote:

> 
> Dear Woody users!
> 
> Do you had seen this too? Sometimes there cames a green line from the left
> till the right side on top of the screen while working with Gnome and the
> system hangs absolute. Then a reboot is needed.
> 
> This system crash not happens by using a determined application. At first 
> time it happens while starting xmms. Today by sending a mail with balsa. 
> And yesterday by opening a gnome-terminal. So i can say, whenever any new 
> process is starting, the system could begin to crash.
> 
> I looked into some log files but couldn't find anything. Is this a bug
> cause woody isn't stable yet?
> 
> Which log files could have informations about this system crash?
> 
> Timo
> 
> --
> Wer K?se mag, der futtert auch F?sse!
> 
>  :-)
> 
> 
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...RickM...



Re: Netgear FA311 driver from Scyld

2001-09-11 Thread Noah Meyerhans
One more thing:  Note that kernel 2.4.x includes the natsemi driver
already.  It is the "National Semiconductor DP8381x series PCI Ethernet
support" option in the kernel configuration.

It's not same as the file from scyld, but is based on it.

noah

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Re: Netgear FA311 driver from Scyld

2001-09-11 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:12:27PM -0700, Rob Hudson wrote:
> How do I get the kernel to 'see' the natsemi.c file and compile this
> driver into the kernel?
> 

You will need to do some kernel hacking.  Unless you have experience
integrating drivers into the kernel, it is likely to be non-trivial.  It
is possible that the driver is not written in such a way that it can be
integrated into the kernel without modification (i.e. it may be that it
can only be compiled as a module).

Try contacting the author of the driver, Donald Becker.  His address is
on the scyld pages, as well as in the natsemi.c file.  Be sure you tell
him what kernel version you're using.

At the very least, adding the driver to the kernel will involve editing
linux/drivers/net/Config.in.  I'm not sure if there's a way that the
driver hackers auto-generate this file, or if it should be done
manually.  It looks to be manual to me.

HTH,
noah

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Re: alsa-modules with 2.4.9 kernel

2001-09-11 Thread Marc Becher
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 05:01:04PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
> some major weirdness. i compile my own kernel, flavour "piper", so i
> get kernel-image-2.4.9+piper (this is woody), which installs its
> modules in /lib/modules/2.4.9/
> 
> when i compile alsa-source or pcmcia-source, the modules get placed
> into /lib/modules/2.4.9+piper/{pcmcia,alsa}, which is neither the
> right modules tree, nor are modules supposed to go there with 2.4.x.
> that's what kernel/drivers/{pcmcia,alsa} would be for.
> 
> did anyone ever compile the alsa-modules or pcmcia-modules with a
> 2.4.9 kernel - the debian way?
>

hum, yes I do, and my modules are located like yours.
There is no problem with loading the alsa-modules, but I do not use flavours.
You should make sure that /etc/modutils/alsa-path is set correct (if "uname -r"
doesn't give you "2.4.9+piper".

hth -- marc



xserver-xfree86 won't upgrade

2001-09-11 Thread Daniel Toffetti
Hi !

Yesterday I upgraded X in Woody from 4.0.3-1 to 4.1.0-5, but for some 
reason, xserver-xfree86 was not correctly configured and remains in C** 
state. the other X packages, fonts etc. installed fine.
Any idea ?

Daniel
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Re: Mutt Unread Mail

2001-09-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 02:22:43PM +0200, Danie Roux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote:
> > I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread
> > messages across my many mail folders. I know  works
> > within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find
> > unread messages.
> > 
> > Is there an easier way?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Paul Clark
> 
> c changes to a folder with new mail in it.

Search order is specified by the 'mailboxes' section of your .muttrc, so
order priority mailboxes higher.

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apt-get problem workaround... is this a bug?

2001-09-11 Thread Paul D. Smith
Well, I finally fixed, or rather worked around, the problem I've been
having with apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade failing with all sorts of
obscure, bizarre errors for over two weeks now.

Maybe my setup was broken, or maybe something in the latest APT, etc. is
broken... can someone with a deeper understanding of APT tell me which?
I'll be happy to file a bug if it's not my own fault.


Since the new apt 0.5.x came out, I've had my system set up to allow me
to update stable, testing, _and_ unstable, and pick what I wanted with
the -t option or :unstable suffix.  I stick with "testing" almost
exclusively and _very_ rarely make use of this (but it's great when I
really need it), and I don't think I have much if any unstable stuff on
my system.

Here is how I did it; first, I put everything in /etc/apt/sources.list:

  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib 
non-free

  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
non-free

Then, I added this to /etc/apt/apt.conf to say that I wanted to keep
"testing" by default:

  APT {
// Options for apt-get
Default-Release "testing";
  }

Finally, I added this to /etc/apt/preferences to keep it from normally
considering unstable packages:

  Package: *
  Pin: release unstable
  Pin-Priority: -1

Up until the last 2/3 weeks that's worked flawlessly.  I've been very
happy.  But then apt-get started reporting all kinds of weird errors
with dependencies, and they would change every time I ran apt-get
update.  Also, many of the files it complained about aren't even
installable when I try to use "apt-get install" on them directly; it
says the latest version is already installed!

On a whim I just commented out the unstable lines in sources.list and
re-ran "apt-get upgrade" (no update first), and it worked!  It offered
to install all kinds of new packages without giving any errors or
anything.

I know this type of thing is supposed to be supported.  So, obviously
either I've set it up wrong and it just happened to work before, or a
bug has been introduced or uncovered in apt/dpkg.

Anyone have any thoughts on this subject?  Should I repost to
debian-devel?


Some facts: here is what I get when I have the unstable stuff in
sources.list:

  # apt-get -s upgrade
  Reading Package Lists... Done
  Building Dependency Tree... Done
  The following packages have been kept back
cygnus-stylesheets expect5.24 gsfonts gsfonts-x11 libxml-generator-perl 
  274 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5  not upgraded.
  Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
aspell: Depends: libstdc++2.10 but 1:2.95.2-14 is to be installed
docbook-stylesheets: Depends: sgml-data but 1.5.2 is to be installed
 Depends: perl but 5.6.1-5 is to be installed
gtksu: Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but 1.2.10-1 is to be installed
python-rng: Depends: python-numeric but 17.1.2-5 is to be installed
task-c++-dev: Depends: task-devel-common but 0.7 is to be installed
task-c-dev: Depends: task-devel-common but 0.7 is to be installed
ymessenger: Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but 1.2.10-1 is to be installed
  E: Internal Error, InstallPackages was called with broken packages!

  # apt-get -s install aspell gtksu python-rng ymessenger docbook-stylesheets
  Reading Package Lists... Done
  Building Dependency Tree... Done
  Sorry, aspell is already the newest version.
  Sorry, gtksu is already the newest version.
  Sorry, python-rng is already the newest version.
  Sorry, ymessenger is already the newest version.
  Sorry, docbook-stylesheets is already the newest version.
  0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 279  not upgraded.


Now, I remove the unstable lines from sources.list and it agrees to
update all my packages with no worries at all:

  # apt-get -s upgrade
  Reading Package Lists...
  Building Dependency Tree...
  The following packages have been kept back
cygnus-stylesheets expect5.24 gsfonts gsfonts-x11 libxml-generator-perl 
  274 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5  not upgraded.
  Inst libc6-dev (2.2.4-1 Debian:testing) []
  Inst locales (2.2.4-1 Debian:testing) []
  Inst libc6 (2.2.4-1 Debian:testing)
  Conf libc6 (2.2.4-1 Debian:testing)
  Inst mawk (1.3.3-8 Debian:testing)
  Inst base-files (2.2.11 Debian:testing)
  Conf base-files (2.2.11 Debian:testing)
...
  Conf telnet-ssl (0.17.13+0.1-2 Debian:testing)
  Conf telnetd-ssl (0.17.13+0.1-2 Debian:testing)
  Conf tk8.0 (8.0.5-9 Debian:testing)
  Conf xmh (4.1.0-5 Debian:testing)


Something's weird here...

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Re: xserver-xfree86 won't upgrade

2001-09-11 Thread Timeboy

On Tuesday Sep 11 20:17 Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> ** Hi !
> ** 
> ** Yesterday I upgraded X in Woody from 4.0.3-1 to 4.1.0-5, but for some 
> ** reason, xserver-xfree86 was not correctly configured and remains in C** 
> ** state. the other X packages, fonts etc. installed fine.
> ** Any idea ?

You could do

# dselect

and deinstall xserver-xfree86 (C*_). Then again select xserver-xfree86 to 
install the xserver. If then happens the same take a look to the error
messages.

I made the same yesterday and had no problems with upgrading to X 4.1.0-5.
Don't know at which time you made your last upgrade. May be possible that
a tool like dpkg or debconf on your system was too old to handle with the
configuration of xserver-xfree86. If now all packages are the newest from
Woody you should have no problems i mean.

Good luck!

Timo

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 :-)



Re: Woody hangs sometimes! Why?

2001-09-11 Thread Julio Merino
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 07:44:18PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
> 
> Dear Woody users!
> 
> Do you had seen this too? Sometimes there cames a green line from the left
> till the right side on top of the screen while working with Gnome and the
> system hangs absolute. Then a reboot is needed.
> 
> This system crash not happens by using a determined application. At first 
> time it happens while starting xmms. Today by sending a mail with balsa. 
> And yesterday by opening a gnome-terminal. So i can say, whenever any new 
> process is starting, the system could begin to crash.
> 
> I looked into some log files but couldn't find anything. Is this a bug
> cause woody isn't stable yet?

I use woody and haven't had any crash yet. It is pretty stable.
I guess that is a missconfiguration of your kernel... Maybe apm or acpi...
or any module with invalid irqs, dmas etc.

In the worst case, this can also be some memory problems (phisical).

HTH

> 
> Which log files could have informations about this system crash?
> 
> Timo
> 
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> 
>  :-)
> 
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