Re: why procmail?

[John Galt]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Jeff Maxson wrote:

>
>relative newbie question: If I use pine (or any other filter-capable
>mail reader) why use procmail to filter the messages?  Pine does that on
>its own, if you tell it too...just wondering the benefits

None now.  Filtering in pine is a recent addition, so some of us use
procmail by inertia.

>Jeff
>
>

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Re: How to stop some system services?

[ktb]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:52:46PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> How can I stop the system services I dont want them to run?
> Forexample, I don't want zope to run, but is starts when I turn on my 
> cumputer.
> In redhat, I use "ntsysv" .
> How can I do in debian?

Some possibilities:

1. Remove the service if not needed.
   # apt-get remove service_name

2. # /etc/init.d/service_name stop
   To stop the service.

3. See "man update-rc.d"
   To remove the start scripts.

4. Comment out services in /etc/inetd.conf
   and
   # /etc/init.d/inetd restart
 
hth,
kent

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Re: How to stop some system services?

[Jimmy Richards]

Hi Tao,

You can shut it down with '/etc/init.d/zope stop' and to keep it
from starting again during bootup you can use the update-rc.d command
like so 'update-rc.d -f zope remove'. You might want to check out the
man page for that command.

Hope that helps,

Jim Richards



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> How can I stop the system services I dont want them to run?
> Forexample, I don't want zope to run, but is starts when I turn on my 
> cumputer.
> In redhat, I use "ntsysv" .
> How can I do in debian?
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Re: kernel 2.4.7 doesn't work

[Tao Liu]

Yes! The problem is resolved!
I am using 2.4.7 now.
Thank you!

But what does initrd mean?
Is it new for 2.4?

On Sunday 29 July 2001 22:50, you wrote:
> have you got the line
>
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.7-686
>
> after the vmlinuz stanza in lilo.conf?
>
> that fixed my trouble with that one
> add the run lilo and boot
>

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Re: How to stop some system services?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:52:46PM +0800, Tao Liu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> How can I stop the system services I dont want them to run?
> Forexample, I don't want zope to run, but is starts when I turn on my 
> cumputer.
> In redhat, I use "ntsysv" .
> How can I do in debian?

To stop a service:

$ /etc/init.d/

Re: kernel 2.4.7 doesn't work

[John Griffiths]

Bigger brains than mine will have to answer that

I experienced this trauma myself ast week and someone suggested it and it works.

shame the kernel packagers haven't automated that one.

At 01:13 PM 7/29/01 +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
>Yes! The problem is resolved!
>I am using 2.4.7 now.
>Thank you!
>
>But what does initrd mean?
>Is it new for 2.4?
>
>On Sunday 29 July 2001 22:50, you wrote:
>> have you got the line
>>
>> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.7-686
>>
>> after the vmlinuz stanza in lilo.conf?
>>
>> that fixed my trouble with that one
>> add the run lilo and boot
>>
>
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Setting up your hostname and your ISP domain as two different thins in sendmailconf

[hzi]

Hi-
I believe everyone will face this problem, one day ;-)
Everybody's got a hostname. This hostname is not necessarily the same as 
your e-mail domain. It won't be, if you use dial-up to log to an ISP.
But when you send mail via the console, how to you set the MTA (sendmal, 
in my case) to send the mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What do you have to do in sendmailconf?
Thanks,
Henry

OT-Pronunciation of Gnome

[Kent West]

Gnome: Is it "nome" or "guh-nome"?
GNU: Is it "new" or "guh-new"?

Thanks!

Kent

Re: OT-Pronunciation of Gnome

[Nathan E Norman]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:51:24AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Gnome: Is it "nome" or "guh-nome"?

The latter (http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/index.html#AEN38)

> GNU: Is it "new" or "guh-new"?

The latter (says so on the opening blurb at http://www.gnu.org)

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[OT] Pinging and traceroute

[Hall Stevenson]

Any ideas why I'm unable to run a traceroute to an IP address without
first pinging it ?? If I try and trace a site, it does little to
nothing. Here's what a trace to www.debian.org shows after 15 seconds:

traceroute www.debian.org
traceroute to www.debian.org (198.186.203.20), 30 hops max, 38 byte
packets
 1  * * *

Now if I ping the same site...

ping www.debian.org
PING www.debian.org (198.186.203.20): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 198.186.203.20: icmp_seq=0 ttl=241 time=126.3 ms
64 bytes from 198.186.203.20: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=123.6 ms
64 bytes from 198.186.203.20: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=123.1 ms

... a traceroute should work right away.

It does. More or less right away, I get this:

traceroute www.debian.org
traceroute to www.debian.org (198.186.203.20), 30 hops max, 38 byte
packets
 1  user-xxx.dsl.mindspring.com (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 31.413 ms  27.102
ms  32.104 ms
 2  cisco-f0-0-0.cle.mindspring.net (207.69.222.193)  22.466 ms  22.808
ms *
 3  cisco-h2-0-1.chi.mindspring.net (207.69.130.10)  43.143 ms  57.928
ms  49.438 ms

I do have an IPTABLES firewall running. Pinging a site does nothing to
the firewall's logs. Using traceroute does. This is the relevant
firewall rule, I think:

#Allowing all ICMP
$IPT -t filter -A INPUT -p icmp -s 0/0 -d $NET -m limit --limit 1/s -j
ACCEPT

I also have this one:
#Allow ICMP Output
$IPT  -A OUTPUT -p icmp -s $NET -d 0/0 -j ACCEPT

(I use Firestarter to make the bulk of it and have modified it myself
very little) 

Any ideas or help ?? I'd appreciate it...

Hall

Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Tao Liu]

how to convert / or /usr to reiserfs?


On Sunday 29 July 2001 09:51, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 03:58:24PM -0700, Shriram Shrikumar 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > does anyone know an easy way of converting a ext2 partition to
> > resierfs and is it worth it ?
>
>   - Back up ext2fs partition.
>   - mkreiserfs on the partition.
>   - Restore data to partition.
>
> It's called the reiserfs shuffle.

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Freeing up lost memory

[Damon Muller]

Hi gang,

I foolishly left Opera 5 overnight last night. It seems that it leaks
memory like a sieve, as when I woke up this morning, I had only about
50M of my 512M of RAM free. This is after a reboot last night (installed
2.4.7-ac2), which pretty much nothing else running.

Anyway, I'm wondering if there is any way to get the RAM back without a
reboot. While a reboot wouldn't kill me, know if it's possible may be
able to help me (or someone else) in the future.

I tried shutting pretty much everything down, and it didn't seem to help
significantly. Even resorting to "telinit 1", which left only the
following processes running:

USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 1  0.0  0.0  1252  456 ?SJul28   0:04 init [
root 2  0.0  0.0 00 ?ZJul28   0:00 [kpnpbios
]
root 3  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul28   0:00 [keventd]
root 4  0.0  0.0 00 ?SWN  Jul28   0:00
[ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 5  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul28   0:02 [kswapd]
root 6  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul28   0:00
[kreclaimd]
root 7  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul28   0:00 [bdflush]
root 8  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul28   0:04
[kupdated]
root 9  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul28   0:00
[scsi_eh_0]
root10  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul28   0:00
[kreiserfsd]
root 17557  0.0  0.0  1252  472 tty1 S16:36   0:00 init [
root 17558  0.0  0.2  2368 1436 tty1 S16:36   0:00 bash
root 17571  0.0  0.2  3272 1468 tty1 R16:37   0:00 ps auxw

But still, all my precious RAM is nowhere to be seen:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:513464 359332 154132  0   6332 131384
-/+ buffers/cache: 221616 291848
Swap:   264996   5192 259804

Now, maybe this is something not worth worring about, but I really am
curious as to where it's all going.

cheers,

damon

PS. I'm tracking testing, if it's relevant.

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Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 02:27:04PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> On Sunday 29 July 2001 09:51, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 03:58:24PM -0700, Shriram Shrikumar 
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > does anyone know an easy way of converting a ext2 partition to
> > > resierfs and is it worth it ?
> >
> >   - Back up ext2fs partition.
> >   - mkreiserfs on the partition.
> >   - Restore data to partition.
> >
> > It's called the reiserfs shuffle.
> how to convert / or /usr to reiserfs?
1. Build a knew kernel with reiserfs Support build-in
2. Boot with a rescue system and mount a NFS share.
3. mkreiserfs the partion and restore the data
4. edit your /etc/fstab
5. reboot and hope that this was the right order to do it ;-)

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Only binaries?

[Gurusami Annamalai]

Hello All,

I am very new to the debian distribution.  I have bought the Debian 2.2
distribution which contains
three CDs.

When I read the README.html file of all the three CDs it says that each of
them is labeled as

Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 "Potato" - Official i386 Binary-1
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 "Potato" - Official i386 Binary-2
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 "Potato" - Official i386 Binary-3

Does this mean that only binaries are distributed in the CDs?   I was
looking for the kernel sources and its not available in /usr/src.  When I
looked in the CDs I felt like a person lost in some maze.

BTW,  what does this "Potato" signify?  Is it like each distribution release
will have such a name and that
saying "Potato" release will mean 2.2 r0?  Or is there any other
significance for this?

Thank you all for your time.

Cheers,
anna

Re: kernel 2.4.7 doesn't work

[Martin Rowe]

On Sunday 29 July 2001 06:13, Tao Liu wrote:
> Yes! The problem is resolved!
> I am using 2.4.7 now.
> Thank you!
>
> But what does initrd mean?
> Is it new for 2.4?

Initial Ram Disk. It's been there for sometime as I needed it to get 
ide-scsi emulation going for my cdburner back on Mandrake 6.0 (2.0.36 or 
early 2.2). I *think* it's the equivalent of the debian root disk you use 
on a floppy install after the rescue disk - but I could be way out on 
this one ;-) It didn't seem to be required in later versions, and I don't 
currently need one for 2.4.4-ac6 (I recompile for hardware support so I 
don't use stock debian kernels). 

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Hardware OpenGL not working in full screen

[Damon Muller]

Hi folks,

It's seems that ever since I did my last dist-upgrade on testing, I've
got something weird happening with my hardware graphics rendering.

I'm running a 32M Matrox G450 (with X 4.03, I think - whatever's in
testing at the moment), and usually the gl screensavers (the only
programs I think I have which do hardware gl) look fantasic and smooth.
Since I've done my last upgrade, however, they don't. It seems to be
doing software rendering - they aren't nearly as smooth and they use
well over two thirds of the CPU. 

Interestingly, however, X seems to report that DRI/DRM is enabled and
working (both from xdpyinfo and /var/log/XFree86.log). When running the
xscreensaver-gl hacks manually, they work fine. For example running
pulsar, I get between 60 and 90 fps both as a window, and running on the
root window. Running it from xscreensaver-demo gives me less than 10fps.

I checked bugs.debian.org, and there doesn't seem to be any bugs filed
against xscreensaver-gl (or xscreensaver), so I'm wondering if I'm the
only one seeing this, or if it's just xscreensaver-gl specific. FWIW,
Quake3 still runs fantastically, and is obviously using hardware 3d.

If there any other simple, full-screen gl programs that I might be able
to use to test?

cheers,

damon

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Re: Setting up your hostname and your ISP domain as two different thins in sendmailconf

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:46:25PM -0300, hzi wrote:
> But when you send mail via the console, how to you set the MTA (sendmal, 
> in my case) to send the mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> What do you have to do in sendmailconf?

Buy "Bat" book from O'reiley for "semdmail" :-)  (I did and never read
it)

Seriously, use "exim" instead of "sendmail" and set /etc/email-addresses.

"exim" has same configuration file and it is default in Debian.

My perseption of MTA:

sendmail: one SUID daemon, cryptic configuration, old
exim: one SUID daemon, sane configuration, (new improved smail)

qmail: many small daemons for security minded, insane featues, old
postfix: many small daemons for security minded, sane featurs and easy
config, new

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Re: Freeing up lost memory

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 04:48:05PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote:
> Hi gang,
> 
> I foolishly left Opera 5 overnight last night. It seems that it leaks
> memory like a sieve, as when I woke up this morning, I had only about
> 50M of my 512M of RAM free. This is after a reboot last night (installed
> 2.4.7-ac2), which pretty much nothing else running.

Did you set lilo.conf right before reboot?  

append="mem=512M"

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Re: mp3 players?

[tempsch]

On 28 Jul, Michael Perry wrote:
> You can now get a 20g (!) version or get one you bought earlier
> upgraded.  All it has in it is a laptop hard drive and a usb
> connection.  

Why limit yourself to a measly 20G? ;-) There are 48G laptop drives
available now... There's a guy with 2x48G in his empeg (now Rio) car
player... not cheap in any way...

OB Debian related content - the empeg (Rio car) runs Debian 

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Re: Only binaries?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:25:01PM +0530, Gurusami Annamalai wrote:
> I am very new to the debian distribution.  I have bought the Debian
> 2.2 distribution which contains three CDs.

You bougt from distributor who only sells binary one with the price you
paid.  Debian is available in source and there is source CD rom images
for those vender to make CD.

You need to read debian site.

http://www.debian.org

> BTW,  what does this "Potato" signify?  Is it like each distribution
> release will have such a name and that saying "Potato" release will
> mean 2.2 r0?  Or is there any other significance for this?

It comes from Toy story. 2.2rx are all called POTATO

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Re: Only binaries?

[Sam Varghese]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:25:01PM +0530, Gurusami Annamalai wrote:
> BTW,  what does this "Potato" signify?  Is it like each distribution release
> will have such a name and that
> saying "Potato" release will mean 2.2 r0?  Or is there any other
> significance for this?

All releases of Debian are named after characters from Toy Story.
Potato is Mr Potatohead. The earlier release @.1) was named Slink,
the previous one Hamm etc. The forthcoming one (3.0) is Woody and
the one after that Sid.

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Re: keyboard death

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 07:55:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i just tried to install debian ver2.2r3 on comp. with asus a7v133
> w/1.2ghz athlon, usb opt. mouse, ps/2 keyboard, agp graphics. keyboard
> works fine during install, but when debian reboots and prompts for
> root password, keyboard goes haywire. cursor function keys work, but
> alpha numeric keys do not.  ie. can navagate menu, but cannot type
> password.

It is tough.  I had similar experience when installing to TOSHIBA note
PC.  It was PCMCIA intialize/gpm initialize conflict which could be
solved by changing init script order.

My suggestion to you is "Try installing with simpler configuration.  PS2
KB/MOUSE (NO USB)."

> first attempt at linux. don't know what to try next.

Hardware autodetection in Potato is not great, IMHO.  Try other distro
until WOODY is released.  Lern Linux first if this can not be solved
easily.  (I bet it can be solved but it is not trivial for first install
experience.)

Osamu
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Information

[Abraham Gustin]

To whom it may concern
 
I am looking for a software that I can use inside 
our site for making a searching engine that allow  all the visitors to find 
any word inside the page. Could you be so kind to recomend  us what could 
be the appropiate software for this target, and how can we installe 
it.
 
Our page is a site of Art & Culture in Spanish  
and we want to offer a service for the public that allow them to access all the 
information in terms of links & information inside the site.
 
Thank you before hand for your help,
 
Sincerely
Abraham Gustin


 
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what does "cramfs" mean?

[Tao Liu]

Hi,
I use kernel 2.4.7 , when I turn on my computer, I can see
...
VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem)
Waiting for 5 seconds, press Enter to obtain a shell

if I press Enter, it says
9: Terminated
sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

# exit

cramfs: wrong magic
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount rootfs on 03:02

if I do not press Enter, it says
...
cramfs: wrong magic
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly
change_root: old root has d_count = 2

What does the information mean?


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How to setup network?

[Tao Liu]

How to change an interface's ip, and the default gateway, etc,
and save them, do not need to type ifconfig everytime ?

Thanks.

Tao Liu


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Re: How to setup network?

[Dmitriy]

Just edit /etc/network/interfaces

For more ifo see `man 5 interfaces`

Hope that helps.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:54:35PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> How to change an interface's ip, and the default gateway, etc,
> and save them, do not need to type ifconfig everytime ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tao Liu
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Re: How to setup network?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:54:35PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> How to change an interface's ip, and the default gateway, etc,
> and save them, do not need to type ifconfig everytime ?

For desktop PC, set:

/etc/network/interfaces

For note PC (PCMCIA), set:

/etc/pcmcia/network.opts

Good luck :-)

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Re: Freeing up lost memory

[Damon Muller]

Quoth Osamu Aoki, 
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 04:48:05PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote:
> > Hi gang,
> > 
> > I foolishly left Opera 5 overnight last night. It seems that it leaks
> > memory like a sieve, as when I woke up this morning, I had only about
> > 50M of my 512M of RAM free. This is after a reboot last night (installed
> > 2.4.7-ac2), which pretty much nothing else running.
> 
> Did you set lilo.conf right before reboot?  
> 
> append="mem=512M"

Sorry, perhaps I was unclear.

Linux sees the memory, but some unknown, unseen application seems to
have gobbled it all up, and I want it back.

cheers,

damon

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about packages

[Tao Liu]

When I type dselect,  and select, it shows some Obsolete/local packages.
Does that mean all these packages can be removed, if I have no local packages?

Thanks.

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fixed frequency monitors

[Sam Varghese]

i managed to get two 20" monitors today - but
both are fixed frequency.
does anyone have any experience in getting a
monitor of this kind to work with linux?

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data recovery startup service

[JNF Stoffels]

hi there
 
how u guys doin'?
 
well I hope.
 
i've just recently acquired a copy of debian 2.2 r3 and was 
wondering whether or not i can use it to start an inedxpensive data recovery 
business.
 
i live in south africa , and being one of the previously 
disadvantaged it's still hard to find work.
 
that i swhy i would like to start something that is fairly 
uncommon around here.
 
if you could point me to some open source software or even 
some documentation so that i can understand how such software is supposed to 
work and write it (it would be opensource of course) , i would greatly 
appreciated.
 
cronus (unemployed self starter)

Re: fixed frequency monitors

[JakeCatfox]

If you're referring to XFree86, you can configure a precise scanrate in 
xf86config. However, I do not know about the console .. I don't have any 
experience with fixed freq. monitors, but if you can manage to get the 
console and X to use that frequency you should be golden.

Maybe you can find a HOWTO ..

-- Deven


In a message dated 7/29/01 3:57:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< i managed to get two 20" monitors today - but
 both are fixed frequency.
 does anyone have any experience in getting a
 monitor of this kind to work with linux?
 
 am >>

Re: Free WP9 editor

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Aidan Christian O'Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Other than getting WordPerfect, are there any options available
> > (preferably free as in speech)?  
> 
> There's Corel's WPO2K/Linux, although it's unstable and buggy.
> There's Corel's WP8 free download, or used to be... but it probably
> won't support all the formatting in WP9, and you can't install any

AFAIK WP uses the same file format since v. 6 upward. WP8 should be
able to read/write WP9 files without any problems.

Greetings,
joachim

Quake II GL

[JakeCatfox]

To run Quake 2 or 3 in OpenGL mode, do you really NEED a VooDoo card? Or can 
it just be any mesa-compliant card? I'm hoping it's the latter, because I 
have an S3 Savage card ..

-- Deven

RE: fixed frequency monitors

[Ted Harding]

On 29-Jul-01 Sam Varghese wrote:
> i managed to get two 20" monitors today - but
> both are fixed frequency.
> does anyone have any experience in getting a
> monitor of this kind to work with linux?

I've done this with Hewlett Packard A1079C monitors.

These have a 3-line input with separate cables for
Red, Green and Blue, the synchronisation signal
goes on the Green channel, and the resolution is
fixed at 1280x1024. In this case the main issue is
coping with the sync-on-green.

The only way I found was to install a Matrox Millennium
board (though maybe there are others that support
sync-on-green, but I haven't found them). Then you have
to edit your XF86Config file so as to

a) Get the monitor frequency, etc., right;

b) Ensure that the device section has the sync-on-green
   option set.

In the case of the HP A1079C and the Millennium (4MB)
board, the relevant sections of XF86Config are:

  Section "Monitor"
  Identifier "HP 1280x1024-72Hz"
  VendorName "Hewlett-Packard"
  ModelName "A1097A"
  BandWidth 135
  HorizSync 78.125
  VertRefresh 72.008
  Mode "1280x1024"
  DotClock 135.00
  HTimings 1280 1344 1536 1728
  VTimings 1024 1027 1030 1085
  EndMode
  EndSection

  Section "Device"
  Identifier  "Matrox Millennium"
  VendorName  "Matrox"
  BoardName   "MGA"
  Option  "sync_on_green"
   EndSection


  Section "Screen"
  Driver  "svga"
  Device  "Matrox Millennium"
  Monitor "HP 1280x1024-72Hz"
  Subsection "Display"
  Depth   24
  Modes   "1280x1024"
  ViewPort0 0
  EndSubsection

  EndSection

That's all that's needed, and I find it works fine in X (those
ancient monitors have a great display: sharp, undistorted,
steady, good colours, and lots of pixels).

If your monitor is not the same, you will have to find the
right settings for the Section "Monitor" -- these are fairly
critical. And if the resolution is different, you will have
to also change Section "Screen". You may well be able to
locate the appropriate parameters by doing a Web search
on monitor make/model plus "linux". For instance, I got a lot
of useful stuff with a Google search on

  "HP-A1079C" AND "linux"

You may even find suitable settings tucked away in the "monitors"
database in XFree86, which in my case was in the file

  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/Monitors

where you find

  #Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 23:16:32 -0700
  #From: "Leonard N. Zubkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Section "Monitor"
  Identifier "HP 1280x1024-72Hz"
  VendorName "Hewlett-Packard"
  ModelName "A1097A"
  BandWidth 135
  HorizSync 78.125
  VertRefresh 72.008
  Mode "1280x1024"
  DotClock 135.00
  HTimings 1280 1344 1536 1728 VTimings 1024 1027 1030 1085
  EndMode
  EndSection

NOTE: As I say, it works fine in X. However, it won't work in text
mode since it's not getting the sync-on-green (which isn't started
up until X starts). All I get in text mode is shimmering horizontal
lines, and I suspect one is stuck with that in Linux (though I believe
there are drivers, but not for Linux, which can set the sync-on-green
for all modes). So in that case I either boot up with the monitor
switched off, start X "blind", and then switch it on; or I can telnet
in from another machine.

Possibly some other card may allow sync-on-green to be set by jumpers.

The other thing to bear in mind is that the Apple Mac monitor works
exactly the same (sync-on-green), but you can buy PC->Mac adapters
(plug the adapter into the PC video port, and then the monitor cable into
the adapter) which route the PC sync output onto the Mac green line, and
then it should work in all modes. Could be worth a try for your monitor.

Hoping this helps,
Ted.


E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972
Date: 29-Jul-01   Time: 11:02:48
-- XFMail --

Re: Problems loading the hisax isdn driver on Debian 2.2r3

[Philipp Lehman]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Helen McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

>I then rebooted 2.2.19pre17 on the machine with the ISA card properly
>configured under 2.2.17, and got a kernel crash:
>
>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 81009f8c
>
>And other such paging errors bringing the kernel tracing into play.
>
>There seems to be something inherantly broken about the
>kernel-image-2.2.19pre17 and kernel-image-2.2.19 on Debian 2.2r3

I can't comment on the kernel-image-* packages as I've never used
kernel images for anything but the basic install. I have been
succesfully running various kernel releases from 2.2.9 through 2.2.19
with my ISDN card (switched to DSL now, but it's still working), all
built from kernel-source-* debs. ISDN support was flaky very early in
the 2.2.x cycle, but that's not a Debian issue.

>> Can't help with the certificate, although I'm getting the same message
>> with kernel 2.2.19 and an Elsa card. I believe that this is a legal
>> issue, though, and that it won't affect the driver's functionality.
>
>I think this is again something to do with the broken nature of the kernel
>in Debian 2.2r3. I have got the Debian source for 2.2.19, and also the
>source from the kernel project, and I will compare them next week if I can
>find the time to compare and compile both sources. This has been the first
>time in many years of using Debian that I have found a fundamental
>instability in a "stable" release.

I recommend building 2.2.19 from a kernel-source-* deb, that works
fine for me.

[...]

>For the time being I have got the ISDN firewall router running properly on
>kernel 2.2.17 which I know from past experience is a very stable kernel.
>I am also quickly changing the default kernel on this workstation to use
>2.2.17 until I can figure out what is wrong with 2.2.19 and 2.2.19pre17.
>
>Now of course I am going to have to learn how to submit a Debian bug
>report, because this is the first time I have needed to, and I have been
>using Debian since version 1 (I was using Slackware before that).

It's straightforward, just see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ and follow
the instructions.

>I might try 2.4.7 on the workstation, and leave 2.2.17 on the firewall
>router. I don't want 2.4.x on the firewall because I have a good set of
>ipchains definitions for that machine, and I don't want to mess around
>converting it all to iptables until I have some free time to learn the new
>system.

The late 2.2.x kernels have been very stable for me. I'd recommend
sticking with that and give 2.4.x some more time.

-- 
Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: freenet port conflict with wwwoffle... what to do

[Philipp Lehman]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Freenet's default port for fwproxy is 8081 but I already
>have wwwoffle on that port (it's primary proxy is on 8080
>and its control connection at 8081).

wwwoffle will use pretty much any port you tell it to use. Take a look
at /etc/wwwoffle/wwwoffle.conf:

StartUp
{
  http-port = 8080
  wwwoffle-port = 8081
}

-- 
Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: KDE2 X display security

[Philipp Lehman]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Karsten M. Self  wrote:

>emacs also runs in a non-X mode, though damned if I can remember the
>arguments.

It's emacs -nw...

-- 
Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: fixed frequency monitors

[Sam Varghese]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 11:02:48AM +0100, Ted Harding wrote:
> On 29-Jul-01 Sam Varghese wrote:
> > i managed to get two 20" monitors today - but
> > both are fixed frequency.
> > does anyone have any experience in getting a
> > monitor of this kind to work with linux?
> 
> I've done this with Hewlett Packard A1079C monitors.
> 
> These have a 3-line input with separate cables for
> Red, Green and Blue, the synchronisation signal
> goes on the Green channel, and the resolution is
> fixed at 1280x1024. In this case the main issue is
> coping with the sync-on-green.

Thanks very much for taking the trouble to reply in so
much detail.

I probably will look for the adaptor which you mentioned
as these monitors are both Mac monitors - Supermac STD9782-E.

I've managed to find the vertical and horizontal sync rates.

Does the sync on green mean that you can't use a terminal
while in X?

Sam
-- 
(Sam Varghese)
http://www.gnubies.com

Re: Information

[John Foster]

> Abraham Gustin wrote:
> 
> To whom it may concern
> 
> I am looking for a software that I can use inside our site for making
> a searching engine that allow  all the visitors to find any word
> inside the page. Could you be so kind to recomend  us what could be
> the appropiate software for this target, and how can we installe it.
> 
> Our page is a site of Art & Culture in Spanish and we want to offer a
> service for the public that allow them to access all the information
> in terms of links & information inside the site.
> 
> Thank you before hand for your help,
> 
> Sincerely
> Abraham Gustin
> --
> 
> http://www.galerianavegante.com/

Try htdig.

Re: How to setup network?

[ktb]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:54:35PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> How to change an interface's ip, and the default gateway, etc,
> and save them, do not need to type ifconfig everytime ?

As mentioned edit /etc/network/interfaces
then
# /etc/init.d/networking restart
to make the changes take effect.
hth,
kent

-- 
 From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted
 First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke

Re: Freeing up lost memory

[ktb]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 06:42:54PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote:
> Quoth Osamu Aoki, 
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 04:48:05PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote:
> > > Hi gang,
> > > 
> > > I foolishly left Opera 5 overnight last night. It seems that it leaks
> > > memory like a sieve, as when I woke up this morning, I had only about
> > > 50M of my 512M of RAM free. This is after a reboot last night (installed
> > > 2.4.7-ac2), which pretty much nothing else running.
> > 
> > Did you set lilo.conf right before reboot?  
> > 
> > append="mem=512M"
> 
> Sorry, perhaps I was unclear.
> 
> Linux sees the memory, but some unknown, unseen application seems to
> have gobbled it all up, and I want it back.

It was probably some jave script at some site you visited that ate your
memory up.  Sometimes after closing out the browser the process is still
going on.  Check with "ps ax | grep opera" and make sure opera is dead.
If not use "kill -12 pid" which probably won't work so "kill -9 pid" to
finish the job.

As to regaining your memory, a reboot should have killed the runaway
process.  One thing when using "free" to check your memory add the
"buffers/cache" section to your "free" section as that will be used by
programs if needed.  

If adding the two columns in "free" still doesn't look right run "top"
and hit "shift + M".  Take a look at what's eating your resources.
hth,
kent  

-- 
 From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted
 First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke

Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Shriram Shrikumar wrote on Sat Jul 28, 2001 um 03:58:24PM:

> does anyone know an easy way of converting a ext2 partition to
> resierfs and is it worth it ?

Are you looking for an fast journaling file system? Try ext3 - the only
thing you have to change is

- patch the kernel:
  http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/ext3-usage.html (2.4.x) or
  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/sct/ext3/ (2.2.x)
- change ext2 to ext3 in /etc/fstab
- create the journal file (with newer tune2fs, e2progs from woody should
  be sufficient)

Learn also the usage of tricks like:
lilo: Linux init=/bin/bash
and
mount / -o remount,rw

umount /

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard. 
-- 
C: Ich möchte nicht länger "Junge" genannt werden. Ich finde den Ausdruck
   demütigend und sexistisch.
   H: Wie möchtest Du dann genannt werden?  [aus "Calvin and Hobbes"
   C: "Genetisch bevorzugter Jugendlicher".by Watterson]

Re: debian 2.2 rel 3 and wvdial

[Rajesh Fowkar]

Rajesh Fowkar saw fit to inform me that: 
>Hi,
>
>Since I installed debian 2.2 r.3 I am facing this problem. Earlier on 2.2 it 
>was
>working fine.
>
>Problem is. I am using wvdial to connect to the net.
>When I first time connect to the net using wvdial DNS is not working. However 
>if
>I disconnect and than reconnect again everything seems to work fine. Can 
>anybody
>point out where the problem lies. I have to daily connect twice now. Otherwise
>since DNS is not working I can not send mail nor can I browse.
>
>I have put the following in /etc/ppp/options
>
>usepeerdns
>
>it works fine. After connecting it creates /etc/ppp/resolv.conf. I have created
>a link /etc/resolv.conf which points to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf.
>

I forgot to mention one thing. Now I am on 2.4.7 kernel and I have upgraded my
ppp and modutils from sid.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep ppp
ii  ppp2.4.0f-1   Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon.
ii  pppconfig  2.0.5  A text menu based utility for configuring pp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep modutils
ii  modutils   2.4.1-1Linux module utilities.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

Thanks in advance.

Warm Regards

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--
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Kurtarkar Nagari,Bldg-C,T4, http://rajesh.computers.webjump.com
Santacruz,Ponda-Goa-403401-INDIAPowered By : Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 R-3
Kernel 2.4.7,Mutt 1.3.19i,IceWM 1.0.8-6
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Re: Freeing up lost memory

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Sunday, July 29, Damon Muller did write:

> Quoth Osamu Aoki, 
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 04:48:05PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote:
> > > Hi gang,
> > > 
> > > I foolishly left Opera 5 overnight last night. It seems that it leaks
> > > memory like a sieve, as when I woke up this morning, I had only about
> > > 50M of my 512M of RAM free. This is after a reboot last night (installed
> > > 2.4.7-ac2), which pretty much nothing else running.
> > 
> > Did you set lilo.conf right before reboot?  
> > 
> > append="mem=512M"
> 
> Sorry, perhaps I was unclear.
> 
> Linux sees the memory, but some unknown, unseen application seems to
> have gobbled it all up, and I want it back.

Killing that application should do the trick.  I couldn't tell from your ps
dump exactly which process has grabbed all the memory.  To find this out,
run top, then hit M (must be uppercase!) to sort your processes by memory
usage.  Then start killing the offending ones.

Richard

Re: why procmail?

[Alan Shutko]

John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Jeff Maxson wrote:

>>relative newbie question: If I use pine (or any other filter-capable
>>mail reader) why use procmail to filter the messages?  Pine does that on
>>its own, if you tell it too...just wondering the benefits
> 
> None now.  Filtering in pine is a recent addition, so some of us use
> procmail by inertia.

Procmail is also probably more powerful than Pine's filtering, since
procmail can run arbitrary commands.  If you want to filter out
WINMAIL.DAT, or autorespond to Sircam, you can do it with procmail,
but probably not Pine.  (Well, maybe you can... I don't know what its
filtering is like.)

-- 
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors!
There's just something I don't like about Virginia; the state.

Re: Only binaries?

[Mart van de Wege]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:24:37 +1000
Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:25:01PM +0530, Gurusami Annamalai wrote:
> > BTW,  what does this "Potato" signify?  Is it like each distribution
> release
> > will have such a name and that
> > saying "Potato" release will mean 2.2 r0?  Or is there any other
> > significance for this?
> 
> All releases of Debian are named after characters from Toy Story.
> Potato is Mr Potatohead. The earlier release @.1) was named Slink,
> the previous one Hamm etc. The forthcoming one (3.0) is Woody and
> the one after that Sid.
> 
I understood that Sid was never meant to be a release name, but always the
codename for the current unstable distribution? IIRC this policy was
instituted together with the testing distribution (currently Woody).
If I have it all correct, this would mean that after the release of Woody
as the new stable distribution, the new testing will get another codename,
not Sid, right?

Mart

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Re: Only binaries?

[ktb]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 11:14:29AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:24:37 +1000
> Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:25:01PM +0530, Gurusami Annamalai wrote:
> > > BTW,  what does this "Potato" signify?  Is it like each distribution
> > release
> > > will have such a name and that
> > > saying "Potato" release will mean 2.2 r0?  Or is there any other
> > > significance for this?
> > 
> > All releases of Debian are named after characters from Toy Story.
> > Potato is Mr Potatohead. The earlier release @.1) was named Slink,
> > the previous one Hamm etc. The forthcoming one (3.0) is Woody and
> > the one after that Sid.
> > 
> I understood that Sid was never meant to be a release name, but always the
> codename for the current unstable distribution? IIRC this policy was
> instituted together with the testing distribution (currently Woody).
> If I have it all correct, this would mean that after the release of Woody
> as the new stable distribution, the new testing will get another codename,
> not Sid, right?

See -
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-codenames
and
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-sid
kent

-- 
 From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted
 First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke

Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Andrew Agno]

Sven Hoexter writes:
 > > how to convert / or /usr to reiserfs?
 > 1. Build a knew kernel with reiserfs Support build-in
 > 2. Boot with a rescue system and mount a NFS share.
 > 3. mkreiserfs the partion and restore the data
 > 4. edit your /etc/fstab
 > 5. reboot and hope that this was the right order to do it ;-)

You forgot stuff like:
0: back up!
1.4: run mkinitrd with appropriate args (just in case you have
reiserfs as a module instead of built in)
1.5: run /sbin/lilo after copying kernel to /boot

Re: Only binaries?

[Mart van de Wege]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 10:57:57 -0500
ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 11:14:29AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:24:37 +1000

> > I understood that Sid was never meant to be a release name, but always
> the
> > codename for the current unstable distribution? IIRC this policy was
> > instituted together with the testing distribution (currently Woody).
> > If I have it all correct, this would mean that after the release of
> Woody
> > as the new stable distribution, the new testing will get another
> codename,
> > not Sid, right?
> 
> See -
> http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-codenames
> and
> http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-sid
> kent
> 
Thanks,

It appears that my memory is not as bad as I usually think it is :)

Mart


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RE:Quake II GL

[Andrew Agno]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > To run Quake 2 or 3 in OpenGL mode, do you really NEED a VooDoo
 > card? Or can it just be any mesa-compliant card? I'm hoping it's
 > the latter, because I have an S3 Savage card ..

Check out http://dri.sourceforge.net/status.phtml for a list of
supported chipsets.

Andrew.

Re: Detecting Ethernet on Compaq Presario 5280

[dude]

yes, when you run redhat

type "lspci" as root and it will give you a list of your pci hardware
and hoefulle that will tell you what kind of card you have

G



On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Speakeasy wrote:

> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:12:40 -0700
> From: Speakeasy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Detecting Ethernet on Compaq Presario 5280
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> While installing Debian 2.2r2 on my Compaq Presario 5280. But it does not
> seem to detect ethernet.
>
> I gives a huge list of drivers to pick from but of course I have no idea
> which to choose.
>
> In Windows it says I has a Intel 21143/2 based 10/100mbps Ethernet
> Controller.
>
> Also I installed Red Hat 7.1 on my computer and it found ethernet. Anyway I
> could figure out what driver it is using and apply that to Debian?
>
> Steve
>
>
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Re: Only binaries?

[dude]

YOu need to look at the debian FAQ at debian.org

It will answer all your questions very well,

if it doesnt you can ask me too

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Gurusami Annamalai wrote:

> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:25:01 +0530
> From: Gurusami Annamalai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: GNU Debian User 
> Subject: Only binaries?
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am very new to the debian distribution.  I have bought the Debian 2.2
> distribution which contains
> three CDs.
>
> When I read the README.html file of all the three CDs it says that each of
> them is labeled as
>
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 "Potato" - Official i386 Binary-1
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 "Potato" - Official i386 Binary-2
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 "Potato" - Official i386 Binary-3
>
> Does this mean that only binaries are distributed in the CDs?   I was
> looking for the kernel sources and its not available in /usr/src.  When I
> looked in the CDs I felt like a person lost in some maze.
>
> BTW,  what does this "Potato" signify?  Is it like each distribution release
> will have such a name and that
> saying "Potato" release will mean 2.2 r0?  Or is there any other
> significance for this?
>
> Thank you all for your time.
>
> Cheers,
> anna
>
>
>
>
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Re: about packages

[Joost Kooij]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 04:25:46PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> When I type dselect,  and select, it shows some Obsolete/local packages.
> Does that mean all these packages can be removed, if I have no local packages?

It means that these packages are listed in the dpkg status database,
but not in the available database.  It is usually caused by packages
being removed from the Packages file in the debian archive.  If you
build your own kernel-image.deb and install it, it will also be listed
as obsolete/local, because your homebuilt deb is not known to the debian
archive Packages file.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: Maestro3 Won't Work

[Christopher S. Swingley]

Deven,

> I've compiled a new kernel with support for the Maestro3 .. I turned that on, 
> turned off all other sound cards, and turned ON Sound card support, but my 
> system doesn't find anything at boot related to sound. I can't run ESD (it 
> tells me there's no /dev/dsp.) I know I have a Maestro because when I 
> originally installed Debian, I chose Maestro3 as a driver and it worked fine. 
> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Which kernel version?  And did you compile the Maestro3 driver as a
module or build it into the kernel?

Chris
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fail updating kernel to 2.4.5

[fg007]

Hello all,
   I attempted to use "deselect" to update kernel from 2.2.19 to
   2.4.5,but failed.

   As rebooting,the last four rows of error messages are:
   "request_module[block-major-3]:Root fs not mounted
VFS: Cannot open root device "hda16" or 03:10
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
kernel panic:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 03:10"

   The system can boot with vmlinuz.old
 With "dselect" ,I had successed updating kernel from 2.2.17 to 2.2.18
 and 2.2.19 before.
 Why failed 2.4.5 this time?

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Re: about packages

[Joost Kooij]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 06:32:53PM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 04:25:46PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> > When I type dselect,  and select, it shows some Obsolete/local packages.
> > Does that mean all these packages can be removed, if I have no local 
> > packages?
> 
> It means that these packages are listed in the dpkg status database,
> but not in the available database.  It is usually caused by packages
> being removed from the Packages file in the debian archive.  If you
> build your own kernel-image.deb and install it, it will also be listed
> as obsolete/local, because your homebuilt deb is not known to the debian
> archive Packages file.

I'm sorry, that was not a complete answer to your original question.

Any packages that you did not build yourself can probably safely be 
removed.

Cheers,


Joost

Kernel compile error?

[Christopher S. Swingley]

Debian users --

Last night I tried to recompile a 2.4.1 kernel with make-kpkg, and
got the following errors:

gcc -E -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -D__BIG_KERNEL__ 
-traditional -DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA  bootsect.S -o bbootsect.s
as -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
bbootsect.s: Assembler messages:
bbootsect.s:253: Warning: indirect lcall without `*'
ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x0 -s -oformat binary bbootsect.o -o bbootsect
ld: cannot open binary: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [bbootsect] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
make[1]: *** [bzImage] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2

It looks like the problem is the 'ld' step, where it uses '-oformat binary'
instead of '--oformat binary'.  I edited the Makefile in 
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot, and it worked.  Is this a bug with the
2.4.1 kernel Makefile, or has 'ld' changed very recently in it's behavior?

The system was upgraded to the latest sid on Thursday or Friday.
Here's some version info:

ii  libc6  2.2.3-7GNU C Library: Shared libraries and 
ii  gcc2.95.4-5   The GNU C compiler.
ii  binutils   2.11.90.0.24-1 The GNU assembler, linker and binary 
ii  bin86  0.15.4-1   16-bit assembler and loader
ii  kernel-package 7.54   Debian Linux kernel package build 
ii  make   3.79.1-8   The GNU version of the "make" utility.

Thanks!

Chris
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Re: Backup strategey? (Was: Preventing windows from scr...)

[Cormac McGuinness]

On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:49:47PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> hi ya cormac
> 
> two synchronized copies???  am assuming that mean that if you erased
> foo.txt on the master... it erases it on the other disk too???

Eh - no - the erasure on my laptop occured when I booted into windows, so 
there was no synchronising at that point. 

Besides I don't synchronise in real time, but rather use unison to rsync
between my laptop and my desktops at home and at work.
(hence the two copies) - I had synchronised before rebooting the laptop
into windows
> 
> - if you lost your files/data on the master... it wasn't
>   mirrored/synchronized to the other set  hummm
>   - curious to see how/why you lost the data/files in the first place
>   - it should have erased it on the other set too depending on
>   failure mode
As I explained in response to another poster, the problem occurred with 
windows overwriting the partition table in an extended partition. The
data I had was the second partition in the extended partition and was
totally unaffected except that I had to 'find' it again which I did
using gpart. Having found the correct position of the partition I 
discovered it was totally unaffected. Thankfully - but as I said I 
wasnt overly worried about the data, just annoyed about the whole affair.

> ...
> 
> - automated backup...
>   - use cron...
> 
> - free backup scripts...
>   http://www.Linux-Backup.net/app.gwif.html

Thanks, I'll look at these
> 
> 
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Paul Mackinney wrote:
> 
> > Cormac McGuinness muttered:
> > > All my files/data were gone  (I had two synchronised copies though, so I
> > > wasnt really worried  :)  )

Re: data recovery startup service

[Tim Moss]

JNF Stoffels wrote:




i've just recently acquired a copy of debian 2.2 r3 and was wondering 
whether or not i can use it to start an inedxpensive data recovery business.


i live in south africa , and being one of the previously disadvantaged 
it's still hard to find work.


that i swhy i would like to start something that is fairly uncommon 
around here.


if you could point me to some open source software or even some 
documentation so that i can understand how such software is supposed to 
work and write it (it would be opensource of course) , i would greatly 
appreciated.




You might want to check out http://www.lnx-bbc.org/. It's a mini-distro 
on a business card sized, bootable CD-ROM (with some debian in it's 
lineage). Amongst its many uses, system and data recovery are probably 
two of the most common.

Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Hall Stevenson]

* Eduard Bloch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010729 10:35]:

> > does anyone know an easy way of converting a ext2 partition to
> > resierfs and is it worth it ?

> Are you looking for an fast journaling file system? Try ext3 - the
> only thing you have to change is

> - patch the kernel:
> http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/ext3-usage.html (2.4.x) or
> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/sct/ext3/ (2.2.x)
> - change ext2 to ext3 in /etc/fstab
> - create the journal file (with newer tune2fs, e2progs from woody
> should be sufficient)

Anyone with opinions on ext3 vs reiserfs, IBM's journaling fs, or others
?? This one sounds the "easiest"... Also, how soon might this be
implemented in Linus' kernel instead of requiring a patch ?? 

I'll check Alan Cox's AC to see if he includes it already.

Hall

Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Ajay Dudani]

hi all

well, if ur not keen of the COOL debian ..
the latest versions of mandrake already have reiserfs...

i did switch to resiserfs some time back but then i am having some problems 
with some features the existing applications have thats only for ext2.. like 
midnight commander (mc) now having support for undeleting files on 
resierfs..its just on ext2.

ajay


PS : me new to debian world :)

> * Eduard Bloch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010729 10:35]:
> 
> > > does anyone know an easy way of converting a ext2 partition to
> > > resierfs and is it worth it ?
> 
> > Are you looking for an fast journaling file system? Try ext3 - the
> > only thing you have to change is
> 
> > - patch the kernel:
> > http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/ext3-usage.html (2.4.x) or
> > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/sct/ext3/ (2.2.x)
> > - change ext2 to ext3 in /etc/fstab
> > - create the journal file (with newer tune2fs, e2progs from woody
> > should be sufficient)
> 
> Anyone with opinions on ext3 vs reiserfs, IBM's journaling fs, or others
> ?? This one sounds the "easiest"... Also, how soon might this be
> implemented in Linus' kernel instead of requiring a patch ?? 
> 
> I'll check Alan Cox's AC to see if he includes it already.
> 
> Hall
> 
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rpc.statd puzzle

[Eugene Tyurin]

Hello,

I found this in my syslog:

Jul 29 13:50:39 daBox rpc.statd[25571]: my_svc_run() - select: Bad file 
descriptor

I don't have any NFS services running, nor do I mount any NFS
filesystems.  Any ideas and/or suggestions?

I have nfs-common version 0.3.2-2 and 2.2.19 kernel with the reiserfs patch.

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Re: Maestro3 Won't Work

[JakeCatfox]

Well, I doubt the dmesg would be terribly helpful. There's no mention of 
Allegro/Maestro hardware at all.

-- Deven


In a message dated 7/29/01 6:31:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< can you post your dmesg to us?
 
 additionally, are you making sure that you have sound support built into the 
 kernel, and if you are using modules, make sure that they are loaded 
 properly,  (in this case, please stay away from using modules, beucase they 
 are just going to complicate the problems).
 
 Sunny Dubey
  >>

Re: Maestro3 Won't Work

[JakeCatfox]

Kernel version 2.4.7. I compiled it in.


In a message dated 7/29/01 11:34:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Which kernel version?  And did you compile the Maestro3 driver as a
 module or build it into the kernel?
 
 Chris >>

Re: fixed frequency monitors

[Ted Harding]

On 29-Jul-01 Sam Varghese wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 11:02:48AM +0100, Ted Harding wrote:
>> On 29-Jul-01 Sam Varghese wrote:
>> Red, Green and Blue, the synchronisation signal
>> goes on the Green channel, and the resolution is
>> fixed at 1280x1024. In this case the main issue is
>> coping with the sync-on-green.
> 
> Thanks very much for taking the trouble to reply in so
> much detail.
> 
> I probably will look for the adaptor which you mentioned
> as these monitors are both Mac monitors - Supermac STD9782-E.
> 
> I've managed to find the vertical and horizontal sync rates.
> 
> Does the sync on green mean that you can't use a terminal
> while in X?

No -- it's rather the other way round: in XF86Config you can
set 'Option "sync_on_green"' so that you get it when X is
running (the X driver sends some magic signals to the card so
that it generates a sync signal on the green channel), whereas
when you're in text mode that hasn't happened (or has been reset)
so the monitor doesn't get the sync signal.

Since these really are Mac monitors, I'd guess that the ideal
solution would be the adaptors: then you should get the sync
signal in every case because it's physically wired across in
the adaptor, and these adaptors are supposed to be made
precisely for the job of connecting a Mac monitor to a PC.

However, I'm no expert on Mac monitors (once I briefly used
one, of old vintage, with such an adaptor), so rather than
trust me in every detail do enquire carefully about the
combination of adaptor and model of monitor. The situation
is subtly different from a sync-on-green generated from the
card itself, since that has somewhat different voltage and
timing characteristics from the sync signal which comes down
the sync lines on a PC (actually there are two, vertical sync
and horizontal sync, and the adaptor uses electronics to drop
one of them onto the green line).

Once again, good luck!
Ted.


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Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Hoexter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 02:27:04PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> > On Sunday 29 July 2001 09:51, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 03:58:24PM -0700, Shriram Shrikumar 
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> > > > does anyone know an easy way of converting a ext2 partition to
> > > > resierfs and is it worth it ?
> > >
> > >   - Back up ext2fs partition.
> > >   - mkreiserfs on the partition.
> > >   - Restore data to partition.
> > >
> > > It's called the reiserfs shuffle.
> > how to convert / or /usr to reiserfs?
>
> 1. Build a knew kernel with reiserfs Support build-in
> 2. Boot with a rescue system and mount a NFS share.
> 3. mkreiserfs the partion and restore the data
> 4. edit your /etc/fstab
> 5. reboot and hope that this was the right order to do it ;-)

That's one way.

I think I used the LinuxCare BBC, a bootable, linux-on-a-disk system, v.
1.5 has reiserfs support ;-)  This allowed me to boot, mount my root
partition under the BBC system, backup, make filesystem, and restore.

You may also want to create a separate /boot partition (20-30 MB is
sufficient, probably more than), and park your kernels there.

If you're thinking ahead, you might also create a second boot partition,
and make sure it's kept up-to-date with your main root partition.  This
makes tricks such as repartitioning easier (boot backup, repartition
main, then boot main and repartition backup).  This can also come in
handy if there are problems with the main partition.

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Re: why procmail?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 01:22:44AM -0400, Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Jeff Maxson wrote:
> 
> >>relative newbie question: If I use pine (or any other filter-capable
> >>mail reader) why use procmail to filter the messages?  Pine does that on
> >>its own, if you tell it too...just wondering the benefits
> > 
> > None now.  Filtering in pine is a recent addition, so some of us use
> > procmail by inertia.
> 
> Procmail is also probably more powerful than Pine's filtering, since
> procmail can run arbitrary commands.  If you want to filter out
> WINMAIL.DAT, or autorespond to Sircam, you can do it with procmail,
> but probably not Pine.  (Well, maybe you can... I don't know what its
> filtering is like.)

Additionally, procmail is independent of pine.  In the Unix tradition
(do one thing, do it well), using procmail modularizes your mail
handling:

  - Receive (exim, fetchmail, etc.).
  - Filter (procmail)
  - Read/compose (pine, mutt, etc.)
  - Send (exim, qmail, postfix, sendmail, etc.)

If you don't like procmail (and it can get ugly), there are
alternatives.  If you decide to switch mailers, you can take your rules
with you.

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Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Craig Dickson]

Hall Stevenson wrote:

> Anyone with opinions on ext3 vs reiserfs, IBM's journaling fs, or others
> ?? This one sounds the "easiest"... Also, how soon might this be
> implemented in Linus' kernel instead of requiring a patch ?? 

I've been reading up a bit on jounaling filesystems lately. Here's what
I have learned:

1. Most journaling fs's currently journal only the metadata (information
about inode allocation and so on -- internal structural information
about the state of the filesystem), but do NOT actually journal the
contents of files. This means that despite the journaling, it IS
possible to lose some data if you have, say, a loss of power (although
it is NOT possible to actually corrupt the filesystem itself). I believe
only ext3 journals the file content data. The ext3 developers claim this
is not only better protection for your files, but also a performance
boost, since all synchronous file writes are made to the journaling file
only, and written out to the "real" files asynchronously.

2. Another plus for ext3 is that it is fully backward- and
forward-compatible with ext2. You can convert ext2 to ext3 in place
(once you have a kernel that supports ext3) just by creating the journal
file. An ext3 filesystem can always be mounted as ext2, as well, which
is useful for rescue diskette boots or downgrading (if you decide, for
some reason, to stop using ext3).

3. ReiserFS handles very small files (< 1k) by storing the file data
with the directory entry rather than in a separate place (as most
filesystems do, and as ReiserFS does for larger files). This makes
accessing those files very, very fast. It can also save space by
combining the tails of files, i.e. the last sector of file A may also
contain the last sector of file B if the combined size of the two tails
will fit into a single sector. This is a space-vs-speed tradeoff; you
can disable tail sharing if you prefer speed.

4. SGI's XFS is not recommended for the typical home desktop system. It
makes much greater demands on the system than ext3, ReiserFS, or IBM
JFS. It comes into its own on multi-processor file servers.

5. I see no particular reason to use IBM JFS. It does not seem to have
the speed of ReiserFS, the SMP benefits of XFS, or the ext2-compatiblity
of ext3. My reading has not turned up any particular pluses of JFS that
make it a strong competitor to the others. If anyone knows better, please
let us all know!

I have never actually used a journaling filesystem, but I'm going to try
ext3 with my 2.4.7 kernel and see how it goes.

Craig

Re: OT-Pronunciation of Gnome

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:56:12AM -0500, Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:51:24AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > Gnome: Is it "nome" or "guh-nome"?
> 
> The latter (http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/index.html#AEN38)

"Covenant with death", if you ask Nick Petreley.

> > GNU: Is it "new" or "guh-new"?
> 
> The latter (says so on the opening blurb at http://www.gnu.org)

"Cancer", if you ask Steve Ballmer.

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Re: what does "cramfs" mean?

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,

CramFS is an FS that lets you execute programs in-place (meaning that
instead of using RAM, it just uses more space on the FS), my old Agenda
VR3 used to use it.  It sounds like you may have forgotten to enable
Ext2 or something in your kernel...

Cameron Matheson


On 29 Jul 2001 15:44:44 +0800, Tao Liu wrote:
> Hi,
> I use kernel 2.4.7 , when I turn on my computer, I can see
> ...
> VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem)
> Waiting for 5 seconds, press Enter to obtain a shell
> 
> if I press Enter, it says
> 9: Terminated
> sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
> 
> # exit
> 
> cramfs: wrong magic
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount rootfs on 03:02
> 
> if I do not press Enter, it says
> ...
> cramfs: wrong magic
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly
> change_root: old root has d_count = 2
> 
> What does the information mean?
> 
> 
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Re: rpc.statd puzzle

[Joost Kooij]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 02:14:32PM -0400, Eugene Tyurin wrote:
> I found this in my syslog:
> 
> Jul 29 13:50:39 daBox rpc.statd[25571]: my_svc_run() - select: Bad file 
> descriptor
> 
> I don't have any NFS services running, nor do I mount any NFS
> filesystems.  Any ideas and/or suggestions?
> 
> I have nfs-common version 0.3.2-2 and 2.2.19 kernel with the reiserfs patch.

If you don't have a need for any rpc services such as nfs, remove the
portmapper package and all other packages that depend on it in dselect.

Alternatively, remove the /etc/rc2.d/S*portmap* symlink and the same
for the other rpc and nfs related services in runlevel 2.  That way, you
can selectively enable these services with "telinit 3", but you won't be
running them by default, which is runlevel 2.

Generally, it's best to not install packages if you don't need them, and
that goes especially for network services.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: (newbie from RH) How can i create a .deb package, or compile a source .deb package ?

[Joey Hess]

Irger Armin wrote:
> how can i create a .deb package ?

You can use dh_make on a previously undebianized source tree, and it
will set up the skeleton of a debian source package in files in debian/.
You then have to modify them so they actually work, though.

> And how can i compile a .deb source package ?

Assuming the source package is in debian and you have appropriate
deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, just:

apt-get source --build package

Or, if you already have files of the source package downloaded, you may
manually unpack them with:

dpkg-source -x package.dsc

And then cd into the directory it creates and build the package with:

debian/rules binary (as root or use fakeroot)

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raw mail archives

[harsha]

hi,
   Where can i get the raw mail archive of debian-user. the previous months say 
from Jan. I would like to do somthing like mutt -f . I 
checked the debian site. It has the html versions.  
 
   A link to similar format of hurd mailing lists archives will also be nice.
 
regards
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Re: Adaptec Raid

[Rich Puhek]

Michael,

You need to patch your kernel to add the necessary drivers that support
the Adaptec card. Adaptec hasn't gotten the message that "Linux" is not
"RedHat", so it's not a trivial process. See:
http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gibbs/linux/  for the necessary patches for
the kernel.

If you're trying to boot off of the array you'll need to create a custom
boot floppy. If your boot partition (and probably your root partition)
are running off of the other SCSI controller, you can start the install,
then patch the kernel. That part (custom disk) gets tricky, but it's
doable. Basicly, you'll compile the kernel on another box, make a copy
of your boot disk, and replace the kernel image on the boot disk with
your new image.

I've got the 2100S running fine for the last few months on a box I did
this too. Once I get off my lazy butt I'll post images of my boot disk
somewhere to save the headache of creating your own.

Good luck!

--Rich


Michael Blood wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am attempting to install Debian 2.2 on a box with an Adaptec 2100s Raid 5
> Controller.
> After creating the disk array using the utilities that come with the adaptec
> card.
> All that being done I run the debian installation.
> 
> When using the default installation the process reports that it can not find
> any hard drives to partition.  when I view the script it shows that it can
> find another scsi adapter that I also have in the box but it does not find
> the raid controller.
> I have already tried to run at the boot prompt
> boot: linux aha152x=iobase
> 
> but I get the exact some results.
> 
> Does any one have suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael Blood
> 
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Re: Adaptec Raid

[Rich Puhek]

Err... Sorry, wrong Adaptec-related web site. The correct site is:
http://www.aurore.net/source/

The dpt patches are the ones you need.

--Rich

Rich Puhek wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> You need to patch your kernel to add the necessary drivers that support
> the Adaptec card. Adaptec hasn't gotten the message that "Linux" is not
> "RedHat", so it's not a trivial process. See:
> http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gibbs/linux/  for the necessary patches for
> the kernel.
> 

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Re: Maestro3 Won't Work

[Christopher S. Swingley]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kernel version 2.4.7. I compiled it in.

Hmm.  One thing you could try is to compile it as a module, and then
see what (if any) messages you get when you try to insert it as a
module.  You might also try turning off some of the hardware you're
not using in the BIOS (like the serial port, parallel port, etc.)
in case you've got an interrupt conflict.  This is really unlikely,
though, unless the BIOS is doing something stupid.

If you compile it as a module, you can also pass the
'debug' option to it when you load it.  According to
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/Maestro3 this will print some
debugging information, although it's not clear whether this is when
it's loading it, or when you're trying to play sounds.  I know there
are ways to pass this information to the drive when it's built into
the kernel, but I'm not sure how to do this.

Chris
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How toinstall Linux source ??

[Giri X]

hi
I recently installed Debian GNu/Linux on my system. I used the Debian CDs to 
do that. After the installayion I found that the /src/linux directory is not 
there. I thought that I had to install the source separately and tried using 
dselect. I did find Linux source in the listing but there 4 different 
packages with diff version numbers. Is this the right way of 
installing/downloading the source code??

TIA
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How to install Linux source code - part 2

[Giri X]

Also when I use dselect , the first option Access does not list CDROMS in 
it. It says that it can be used only for http, ftp and APT. How do I install 
from the CDS.

Thak you again
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reiserfs question

[Kevin C. Smith]

Maybe this is a stupid question but:

I plan to try the reiserfs, but an curious about the fsck.
In particular, about when it runs after so many boots.
Do I have to disable this somehow. I suspect a e2fsck on a reiserfs
would be bad.

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Re: How toinstall Linux source ??

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:40:37PM +, Giri X ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> hi
> I recently installed Debian GNu/Linux on my system. I used the Debian CDs to 
> do that. After the installayion I found that the /src/linux directory is not 
   ^^
/usr/src/linux

/usr/src exists.  'linux' is a symlink to the appropriate source
directory.

$ apt-get install kernel-source-

...untar the resulting file, and link to the version you want (if you
have multiple versions).

> there. I thought that I had to install the source separately and tried
> using dselect. I did find Linux source in the listing but there 4
> different packages with diff version numbers. Is this the right way of
> installing/downloading the source code??

Yes.

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Re: How to install Linux source code - part 2

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:43:33PM +, Giri X ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Also when I use dselect , the first option Access does not list CDROMS in 
> it. It says that it can be used only for http, ftp and APT. How do I install 
> from the CDS.

$ man sources.list

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Re: Kernel compile error?

[Eric G. Miller]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:53:44AM -0800, Christopher S. Swingley wrote:
[snip]
> It looks like the problem is the 'ld' step, where it uses '-oformat binary'
> instead of '--oformat binary'.  I edited the Makefile in 
> /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot, and it worked.  Is this a bug with the
> 2.4.1 kernel Makefile, or has 'ld' changed very recently in it's behavior?

ld changed about a month or so ago.  Apparently to avoid confusion with
the -o flag.

-- 
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Re: reiserfs question

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:52:24PM -0500, Kevin C. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Maybe this is a stupid question but:
> 
> I plan to try the reiserfs, but an curious about the fsck.
> In particular, about when it runs after so many boots.
> Do I have to disable this somehow. I suspect a e2fsck on a reiserfs
> would be bad.

This behavior is dictated by your /etc/fstab.  ext2fs filesystems will
fsck on some count of mounts (with appropriate mount options).  By
specifying 'reiserfs' as the filesystem type, which is necessary to
mount the reiserfs filesystem(s), you'll avoid this behavior.

Compare, e.g.:  vfat, minix, iso9660, and other filesystem types, which
don't run automatic filesystem checks on mount counts.

e2fsck on a non-ext2fs filesystem will exit with errors, no harm done
(not sure in case of ext3fs).

Cheers.

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RE: Adaptec Raid

[Michael Blood]

Rich,
I am unfamiliar with applying patches, recompiling kernels or otherwise
messing with the "Guts of the installation process".  I have, however, been
working on a debian 2.2 box for about 8 months though.  If you happen to
have the image of the root disk would you be able to send it to me in an
email?  In return I will "post images of my boot disk somewhere to save the
headache of creating your own".

I would be very grateful.

Micahel Blood

-Original Message-
From: Rich Puhek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 1:52 PM
To: Michael Blood; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Adaptec Raid


Err... Sorry, wrong Adaptec-related web site. The correct site is:
http://www.aurore.net/source/

The dpt patches are the ones you need.

--Rich

Rich Puhek wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> You need to patch your kernel to add the necessary drivers that support
> the Adaptec card. Adaptec hasn't gotten the message that "Linux" is not
> "RedHat", so it's not a trivial process. See:
> http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gibbs/linux/  for the necessary patches for
> the kernel.
>

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Re: (newbie from RH) How can i create a .deb package, or compile a source .deb package ?

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 04:59:53PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 09:37:34PM +0200, Irger Armin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > how can i create a .deb package ?
> 
> Short (and incomplete) answer:
> 
> $ dpkg --build
> 
> See the Debian Policy Manual (available from the Debian Documentation
> Project website or as a package) for more information on structure.  You
> can also pick apart an existing package to see how it's put together.
> 'man dpkg' for more info.
> 
> I'm not sure how the dependency information is built.

Some of it is specified manually in debian/control, but the rest comes
from tools like dpkg-shlibdeps (dh_shlibdeps, which is often used, is a
wrapper for it). That tool scans the contents of the package build
directory, checking what shared libraries are used, and uses the
contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.shlibs to work out what the correct
library dependencies are.

If you see ${shlibs:Depends} in a control file, the intent is to use
that mechanism. Similarly, ${perl:Depends} and dh_perl do some automatic
computation of Perl dependencies.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Adaptec Raid

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:34:47PM -0600, Michael Blood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Rich,
> I am unfamiliar with applying patches, recompiling kernels or otherwise
> messing with the "Guts of the installation process".  I have, however, been
> working on a debian 2.2 box for about 8 months though.  

I'd start learning.  It's a useful skill, and not as daunting as you may
think.

For patches:  download appropriate patch (ask if you need a specific URL
pointer) to /usr/src, apply it with the 'patch' command, usually:

$ patch -p0 < patchfile

Naturally, you need your Linux kernel image:

$ apt-get install kernel-source-
$ cd /usr/src
$ tar -xjvf kernel-source-.tar.bz2
$ ln -sf kernel-source- linux   # removes any existing link 
# patch now:
$ patch -p0 < patchfile
$ cd linux
$ less README   # RTFM!
$ make mrproper

The next part is the interesting one:  you configure your kernel.
Options are 'config', 'menuconfig', 'xconfig', and 'oldconfig'.  I tend
to like menuconfig.  Here you get to select options for your kernel --
the key is that you *only* need to select the options you're going to
use -- but it helps to select *all* the options you need.  Following the
guidance provided in the accompanying help usually works, as does the
"when in doubt, compile as module" doctrine.

$ make menuconfig

When done, save your changes.  I like to keep my configurations in
/usr/src as config-MMDD-, that is, timestamped, by kernel
version.  This convention is strictly for your convenience, it has no
significance for your system.

$ make dep

At this point, the Debian method departs from the traditional GNU/Linux
kernel configuration.  Under Debian, the make-kpkg package allows you to
create your own Debian package, of your own kernel, 

$ make-kpkg 

...the options bit varies, I tend to use:

$ make-kpkg --bzimage --revision custom.. binary modules

e.g.: 

$ make-kpkg --bzimage --revision custom.1.0 binary modules

...the '--revision' option allows you to differentiate between different
configurations of the same kernel version.

To install a given kernel, e.g., all of the packages produced by the
above make-kpkg command:

   $ cd /usr/src
   $ dpkg -i kernel-*_custome.1.0*.deb

You might also want to refer to http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html 

Corrections appreciated, I think I've got most of that about right.

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Re: ext2 -> reiserfs

[Hall Stevenson]

> * Eduard Bloch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010729 10:35]:

>> does anyone know an easy way of converting a ext2 partition to
>> resierfs and is it worth it ?


Someone asked today about how fsck automatically runs and how to avoid
it with ext3 partitions. The website with the ext3 patch says this:

==

A feature of e2fsck is that it will regularly force a check of a
filesystem even if the filesystem is marked clean. Typically, this
happens on every twentieth mount or every 180 days, whichever comes
first. This still happens with ext3, and is quite possibly not what
you want to happen - one of the reasons you chose ext3 was to avoid
the downtime which is caused by a long fsck. So it is a good idea to
turn this feature off for ext3. 

Use the command  

tune2fs -i 0 -c 0 /dev/hdxx 

To disable the checking.

=

I've just patched my 2.4.7 kernel to enable ext3 filesystems. We'll see
how it goes...

Hall

Warning to non-i386 unstable users (sysvinit)

[Colin Watson]

If you're running any architecture except i386 and have upgraded
sysvinit recently (to 2.80-2 or possibly 2.80-1), beware that execute
permissions were inadvertently removed from /etc/init.d/rc and
/etc/init.d/rcS. I'm not sure exactly what will happen, but at the very
least it's probably bad karma to reboot before you've fixed that on your
system. As I said, i386 is not affected.

See http://bugs.debian.org/107018 for more information.

-- 
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Re: pdf editor

[Leonard Stiles]

Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Not?  Debian uses GhostScript, a reverse-engineered clone of
> PostScript that involves zero payment to Adobe.

Reverse engineered?  Postscript is an open language, documented in a
series of books published by Addison-Wesley.  Buy the Red Book (see
http://www.awlonline.com/product/0,2627,0201379228,00.html>) or
read about it online at
http://www.adobe.com/products/postscript/resources.html> (in PDF,
ironically).  Also, I think "implementation" is a better word than
"clone" in this context.

-- 

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setting up an ftp server

[Kalle Hasselström]

Currently, the only service I'm running is ssh, as this meets my
requirements both regarding remote logins and file transfers. However,
ssh clients, especially the file-transfering sort, are not a standard
item on most mac and windows computers, and now and then I find the
need to talk to my computer from the strangest places (for example, I
need to scan a bunch of images, and the only scanners I have easy
access to are hooked up to Macs).

How much of a security risk would it be to run an ftp server? Is the
biggest risk the clear-text passwords (I won't be transferring
confidential files, I just don't want anyone to break in), or are
there other major security holes as well? Would I be reducing the risk
by just running the server while I need it (I'm the sole user on my
box), or might I just as well leave it running?

What server should I install? I found several with apt-cache search
ftpd. I want one that's safe, convenient for a one-user system, safe,
easy to configure (and hard to misconfigure), and safe. Any
recommendations?

-- 
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Re: data recovery startup service

[John Galt]

Package tct may be a good place to start:  The Coroner's Toolkit by Wietse
Venema has quite a few tools that may be used to recreate data if you know
what you're doing.  The only problem is it's in unstable/testing, so you
may have to either jump to testing or wait it out until Woody's over
freeze (prolly christmastime-ish).

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, JNF Stoffels wrote:

>hi there
>
>how u guys doin'?
>
>well I hope.
>
>i've just recently acquired a copy of debian 2.2 r3 and was wondering whether 
>or not i can use it to start an inedxpensive data recovery business.
>
>i live in south africa , and being one of the previously disadvantaged it's 
>still hard to find work.
>
>that i swhy i would like to start something that is fairly uncommon around 
>here.
>
>if you could point me to some open source software or even some documentation 
>so that i can understand how such software is supposed to work and write it 
>(it would be opensource of course) , i would greatly appreciated.
>
>cronus (unemployed self starter)
>

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nVidia users help needed

[John Wheat]

 I am new to Debian and relatively new to Linux and ask your help with this
God forsaken nVidia card.
I initially installed 2.2r0 and upgraded the system to 2.2r3 followed by a
dist-upgrade to Woody (for Xfree4.0.3). When I enter the command xf86cfg the
command is unrecognized. I have never been able to get even a frame buffered
support for this card and subsequently no X! I have tried all that I know of
to do with the dist-upgrades for a more current set-up but all has failed. I
also did a simple package selection which seemingly does not install kernl
headers or source as /usr/src/linux does not contain these items unless
Debian stores them elsewhere. I was going to try and compile the Nvidia-src
files I found on one of the Debian FTP sites that I read of in the archives,
but no kernel-src-headers.
 TIA,
John Wheat

Debian install issues...

[Brad Pillatsch]

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One more time, just with out the HTML Email :) Sorry, im new to the
mailing list.

Here's the problem I am having.  This occurs on all the flavors of
the latest stable release root disks.  Basically when the root disk
loads up into the install menus, specifically the first release notes
window and the driver setup window, if I scroll down with the
keyboard the system will show a black line in the middle of the
window and then *hang* the system up to dry.  I booted off loppies, I
booted off a FAT32 disk with loadlin, and even ran memtest82 to see
if I had memory probs.  I bumped my clock back down to spec(celeron
300a) none of which seems to be working.  I have installed debian in
the past so I am assuming its an issue with the latest release.


Now for the system specs;
ABIT BM6
Celeron 300a OC'ed to 450MHz
128Megs PC100 SDRAM
UDMA66 IDE Controller Card
ATI AGP Rage Fury 32Meg
ATI All in Wonder TV PCI
2 CDRoms
1 HP Travan Tape Drive
SB AWE64 PCI


And now for dmesg;
Linux version 2.2.19pre17-ide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1
Tue Mar 13 23:36:29 EST 2001
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0009e000 @  (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 07f0 @ 0010 (usable)
Detected 463921 kHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 924.05 BogoMIPS
Memory: 126576k/131072k available (1036k kernel code, 416k reserved,
1532k data, 72k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 16384 (order 5, 128k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072 (order 7, 512k)
Page cache hash table entries: 32768 (order 5, 128k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
128K L2 cache (4 way)
CPU: L2 Cache: 128K
CPU: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 05
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error
reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.35a (19990819) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb330
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 131072 bhash 65536)
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks of 4096K size
loop: registered device at major 7
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
PDC20262: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 48
PDC20262: chipset revision 1
PDC20262: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PDC20262: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI
Mode.
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xe400-0xe407, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:DMA
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xe408-0xe40f, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA, hdh:pio
hda: FUJITSU M1638TAU, ATA DISK drive
hdb: HP COLORADO 8GB, ATAPI TAPE drive
hdc: ATAPI 48X CDROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: OTI-975 SOCRATES ATAPI CD-R/RW, ATAPI CDROM drive
hde: WDC WD307AA, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide2 at 0xd400-0xd407,0xd802 on irq 9
hda: FUJITSU M1638TAU, 2452MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=622/128/63
hde: WDC WD307AA, 29333MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=59598/16/63, UDMA(66)
hdc: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
hdd: ATAPI 6X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 1024kB Cache
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2
 hde: [PTBL] [3739/255/63] hde1
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.13)
apm: disabled on user request.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Freeing unused kernel memory: 72k freed
kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.

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history

[Markus Hansen]

hi
how can i clear the history of visited webpages
while using conqueror?
thanks for helping.
markus

PPP hangup

[JakeCatfox]

Hi, I'm having a problem with PPP. I set up my connection to NetZero using 
pppconfig, and then type pon NetZero to connect. After it's done connecting, 
it pauses about 30 seconds, and then hangs up. There's no output to the 
console. I've tried PAP, CHAP, and CHAT, but none of them work. Does anyone 
know what I'm doing wrong?

-- Deven

Re: setting up an ftp server

[Allan M. Wind]

On 2001-07-30 00:44:51, Kalle Hasselström wrote:

> How much of a security risk would it be to run an ftp server?

Make sure you have have restrictive permission on all directories if
you allow anonymous ftp, otherwise you will be staging pirated
software or DVDs fairly quickly.

The ftp servers with most interesting features (proftpd, wu-ftpd and
friends) have had issues in the past, but past performance might not
be any indication of the future.

> Is the
> biggest risk the clear-text passwords (I won't be transferring
> confidential files, I just don't want anyone to break in), or are
> there other major security holes as well?

I would hope that servers with known holes are patched or pulled, but
you might want to check out bugtraq or cert to convince yourself.  For
servers that uses PAM, you should check out if any of the
authentication modules might suit your needs (one-time passwords for
instance).


/Allan
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Re: fixed frequency monitors

[Dave Thayer]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 11:02:48AM +0100, Ted Harding wrote:
> NOTE: As I say, it works fine in X. However, it won't work in text
> mode since it's not getting the sync-on-green (which isn't started
> up until X starts). All I get in text mode is shimmering horizontal
> lines, and I suspect one is stuck with that in Linux (though I believe
> there are drivers, but not for Linux, which can set the sync-on-green
> for all modes). So in that case I either boot up with the monitor
> switched off, start X "blind", and then switch it on; or I can telnet
> in from another machine.

I have a HP 1097C, console is possible 2 ways with a matrox card:

SVGAtextmode supports sync on green with matrox cards, here's what I
have in /etc/TextConfig:

[...]
Chipset "matrox"
clockchip "ti3026"  # for the Millennium
Option "sync_on_green"
HorizSync 78.125
VertRefresh 72.008

"HP80x42" 76 640 700 744 870  512 512 517 542 font 9x12 Doublescan

DefaultMode "HP80x42"
[...]

Or you can use the matrox framebuffer driver. You will probably have to
compile a new kernel that supports this. I have the following line in my
/etc/lilo.conf:

append ="video=matrox:sync:0x28,xres:1280,yres:1024,depth:8,pixclock:7407,
left:192,right:64,upper:55,lower:3,hslen:192,vslen:3"

NB: This is one big long line in my lilo.conf; lilo doesn't seem to like 
split lines.

I prefer the framebuffer approach because you get a stable console
much earlier in the boot sequece. SVGATextMode does not start until
after a lot of the initial fscks, etc, so if your computer gets stuck
doing a slow fsck you can't tell what's going on.

Also, for the original poster, if the monitors require composite sync, 
some ATI cards support this (as well as matrox). 

There are some schematics out on the net for hardware sync combiners if
you are handy with a soldering iron. (I got lazy and bought a $30 matrox
card myself)

HTH

dave t.

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Re: PPP hangup

[Hereward Matthew Lawrence Cooper]

> Hi, I'm having a problem with PPP. I set up my connection to NetZero
> using 
> pppconfig, and then type pon NetZero to connect. After it's done
> connecting, 
> it pauses about 30 seconds, and then hangs up. There's no output to the 
> console. I've tried PAP, CHAP, and CHAT, but none of them work. Does
> anyone 
> know what I'm doing wrong?

what does it say when you do a 'plog'?
It does sound like something that happened to me a while ago, and plog said
I needed ioctl support in the kernel.

Hereward

Re: PPP hangup

[JakeCatfox]

It says:
pppd[420]: Connect scipt failed.
pppd[420]: Exit.


In a message dated 7/29/01 6:29:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< what does it say when you do a 'plog'?
 It does sound like something that happened to me a while ago, and plog said
 I needed ioctl support in the kernel.
 
 Hereward
  >>