Re: Sid vs unstable
Stephen Boulet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can someone tell me (who's new to Debian) what the difference > between sid and unstable is? Debian distributions have a 'code-name': (the current) stable -> Potato (the current) testing -> Woody (the current) unstable -> Sid Later, Woody will be the new stable and Sarge will be the new testing. Unstable will be always Sid. moritz -- Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.chaosdorf.de/moritz/ Debian/GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ GPG fingerprint = 3A14 3923 15BE FD57 FC06 B501 0841 2D7B 6F98 4199
Re: Win4Lin
Ok... yeah I just check and it seems that they are writing patch for 2.4 kernel but nothing comes out yet. and until I figure out if my UMAX usb scanner and usb logitech webcam pro works under win4lin, I will not buy it. Edwin Lau On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:03:02 stephen wrote: > > You wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Just wondering if Win4Lin works under kernel 2.4.2. > > > > > I have no idea. I'm running 2.2.18. You can check out the support > section at http://www.win4lin.com. > > Thanks for everyone's pointers on this. I've now managed to get it set > up > and working. I do appreciate the assistance. > -- > steve > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Edwin Lau ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems with CD-writer in 2.4.2
At 03:42 PM 3/27/2001 +1000, Price, Tim wrote: >Hi all, > >I've just upgraded to kernel 2.4.2 and am having trouble using >cdrecord/cdrdao. > >They are both complaining that there are no valid scsi devices. > >I have compiled in the appropriate (advansys.o) driver & am able to mount & >read data CDs. Just not write. got your SCSI emulation running?
Re: my left arrow key doesn't work!
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:54:44AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > when typing at an xterm, my backspace key works (it rubs out the last > character) but my left arrow key doesn't (it doesn't move the cursor to the > left by one). > > i know there's a way to fix this, but searching man pages turned up nothing. > can someone help me out? this is very annoying! Not the solution you want, but you can use "ctrl-B" (think "B"ack). I used to have problems with my Meta keys acting funny when I had the NumLock on in X, but never an arrow key. Rob -- Dinner is ready when the smoke alarm goes off.
RE: Problems with CD-writer in 2.4.2
> At 03:42 PM 3/27/2001 +1000, Price, Tim wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >I've just upgraded to kernel 2.4.2 and am having trouble using > >cdrecord/cdrdao. > > > >They are both complaining that there are no valid scsi devices. > > > >I have compiled in the appropriate (advansys.o) driver & am > able to mount & > >read data CDs. Just not write. > > got your SCSI emulation running? > I didn't need scsi emulation in the 2.2 kernels - it's a scsi cd-writer. Has this changed? CAUTION This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressee. The confidentiality and/or privilege in this e-mail is not waived, lost or destroyed if it has been transmitted to you in error. If you have received this e-mail in error you must (a) not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it; (b) please notify Australia Post immediately by return e-mail to the sender; and (c) please delete the original e-mail.
RE: Problems with CD-writer in 2.4.2
>> >I have compiled in the appropriate (advansys.o) driver & am >> able to mount & >> >read data CDs. Just not write. >> >> got your SCSI emulation running? >> > >I didn't need scsi emulation in the 2.2 kernels - it's a scsi cd-writer. Has >this changed? Whoops guess its not that then.
Re: (OT) - Static electricity grounding device?
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 12:22:56PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Rick Rezinas writes: > > For low voltage work (like with static ectricity),... > > "Static Electricity" is _high_ voltage. To quantify: air conducts electricity (draws a spark) when the electric field is stronger than 3x10^6 volts/meter. If a spark jumps one millimeter from your finger to something else, it crossed a potential difference of 3x10^6 V/m * 10^-3 m = 3,000 Volts. (There's not much current involved, though, which is why it doesn't hurt.) This large potential, however, is due to a relatively small amount of charge and the fact that your fingertip is sharply curved (ever notice how the palm of your hand never draws a spark, only the fingertip?). This charge can be harmlessly dissapated, as noted, by touching the metal part of your box's case. Rob -- The young lady had an unusual list, Linked in part to a structural weakness. She set no preconditions.
Re: SourceForge binaries
francisco m . neto wrote: > I one does so, and installs the package using dpkg, won't the > apt-get database get dependency problems when one tries to install > some other package that depends on the first package? Well, no. Apt wouldn't have caught on very well or even been accepted into debian at all if it had such a fundamental design flaw. -- see shy jo
kernel panic
hi all,
hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
i got a whole bunch of these this morning and then our debian 2.2.17 system
crashed with the following:
kernel panic LFS: VRU block list corrupted
i cant seem to find out what that means anywhere? i rebooted and changed the
drive in question, but can anyone explain what this is about?
Regards,
Marc-Adrian Napoli
Network Administrator
Connect infobahn Australia
+61 2 92120387
Re: SourceForge binaries
"francisco m . neto" wrote: > I one does so, and installs the package using dpkg, won't the > apt-get database get dependency problems when one tries to install > some other package that depends on the first package? The apt-get database and the dpkg database are one and the same. Actually, apt-get is just a front end to dpkg. Matthew
Re: I want to StartX Manually
Dan wrote: > To Whom It May Concern, > > > I want to start the XServer Manually and not on boot. How do I do > this. I have looked in the lilo.conf, xfree86.cong, and the inetd.cong > thinking it was in there, but couldnt find anything. Where is it loacted? > > Any help will be honored. > > Thanks, > Dan Andrew wrote: >Get rid of /etc/rc*/*xdm . > >Alternatively, edit /etc/init.d/xdm to avoid starting xdm. > >ap Here's how I edited /etc/init.d/xdm to avoid auto-launch of xdm, the X display manager: 24a25,29 > echo -n "Start X display manager with: /etc/init.d/xdm sstart" > echo "." > ;; > > sstart) In other words, those lines are inserted immediately after the "start)" pattern within the case statement. Does two things: - renames "start" to "sstart" - causes "start" to simply print a message about using "sstart" And a third side-effect is: At end of boot-up, those echoed messages appear immediately above "login:" prompt where they are easy to notice (why, because xdm is the last step in boot-up). To summarize, with that edit, starting X can be done one of two ways: - startx - /etc/init.d/xdm sstart * * *
Hylafax fax user
After having read all the documentation and a detailed, long article in a linux magazine, I've installed hylafax server & client under potato. If I launch faxsetup it simply tells, among other non-essential things,that not an fuser (fax user ???) is defined and exits regularly. Using sendfax -d -n # file I'm presented with a "password:" which I haven't been able to set up. So the first problem is there! How can I set up an hylafax user & password? Ciao Vittorio - messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva http://www.supereva.it -
X and S3 trio 3d/2x
Hi, I use a S3 trio 3d/2x video card, which is not supported by X (even with X4.0.2) with other han 640*480 in 256 colors mode (just annoying for a 8mo card) Does someone knows if a driver was recently released for this card or knows a solution (except changin my card) to the problem? Thanks in advance Fred
Re: Problems with CD-writer in 2.4.2
Have you enabled Scsi Generic support in your kernel config. It should give you a module called (IIRC) sg.o which is used to send specific scsi commands for cd writting. And you should have a /dev/sg too. Christophe On mar, 27 mar 2001 07:42:40 "Price, Tim" wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just upgraded to kernel 2.4.2 and am having trouble using > cdrecord/cdrdao. > > They are both complaining that there are no valid scsi devices. > > I have compiled in the appropriate (advansys.o) driver & am able to mount & > read data CDs. Just not write. > > Anyone else have this trouble? > > Cheers > > -tim > CAUTION > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are privileged and confidential > information intended for the use of the addressee. The confidentiality and/or > privilege in this e-mail is not waived, lost or destroyed if it has been > transmitted to you in error. If you have received this e-mail in error you > must (a) not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it; (b) > please notify Australia Post immediately by return e-mail to the sender; and > (c) please delete the original e-mail. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 www.lineo.com
ld and php4pl1 - what is my problem?
Hi guys, I tried to compile Apache and php myself and what it got was this message: ---schnipp make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1' /bin/sh /usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1/libtool --silent --mode=link gcc -I. -I/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1/ -I/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1/main -I/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1 -I/usr/local/apache/include -I/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1/Zend -I/home/sven/imap-2000a//c-client -I/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1/ext/mysql/libmysql -I/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1/TSRM -DLINUX=22 -DUSE_HSREGEX -DUSE_EXPAT -DNO_DL_NEEDED -g -O2 -o libphp4.la -rpath /usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1/libs -avoid-version -L/home/sven/imap-2000a//c-client -R /home/sven/imap-2000a//c-client stub.lo Zend/libZend.la sapi/apache/libsapi.la main/libmain.la regex/libregex.la ext/calendar/libcalendar.la ext/ftp/libftp.la ext/imap/libimap.la ext/mysql/libmysql.la ext/pcre/libpcre.la ext/posix/libposix.la ext/session/libsession.la ext/standard/libstandard.la TSRM/libtsrm.la -lc-client -ldl -lresolv -lm -ldl -lcrypt -lnsl -lresolv /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgd collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [libphp4.la] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/php-4.0.4pl1' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 --schnapp--- I just tried to execute ld -lgd and I got the same error: polarbear:/# ld -lgd ld: cannot find -lgd On all my other machines I got this: pioneer:/# ld -lgd ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; not setting start address What's the problem??? I compiled Apache + php a several times on diverent *nix and it worked. This box is a Debian 2.2 System (Intel based) I tried the ld -lgd command on Mandrake, SuSE, other Debian 2.2 boxes and Solaris. The Version of the ld command is on all the Debian boxes GNU ld 2.9.5. The other boxes are running something older. Any hints? CU, Sven
Re: X connection
on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:12:21PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I know xhost and xauth to get X connected from remote site. xhost > is insecure and xauth is complicated. I see ssh has portforwarding > (-X) for X. Can anyone pont me to how to do remote connection > using ssh. Client side: $ ssh -X host Note that syntax has changed. Older clients may use a '+/-x' syntax. Check your system. On the server side, you have to enable X11 forwarding. This may be disabled by default. See /etc/ssh/sshd_config. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpQrroVKUe4Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sid vs unstable
On 27 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Debian distributions have a 'code-name': > > (the current) stable -> Potato > (the current) testing -> Woody > (the current) unstable -> Sid > > Later, Woody will be the new stable and Sarge will be the new > testing. Unstable will be always Sid. There must be reason or a story behind these names - can anyone explain or point me to an explanation - just curious ;-) Glyn M -- so here we are then http://members.tripod.co.uk/Christchurch2000uk Running Debian/Gnu Linux 9:18am up 9 min, 2 users, load average: 1.19, 0.86, 0.43
Re: Sid vs unstable
>> Debian distributions have a 'code-name': >> >> (the current) stable -> Potato >> (the current) testing -> Woody >> (the current) unstable -> Sid >> >> Later, Woody will be the new stable and Sarge will be the new >> testing. Unstable will be always Sid. > >There must be reason or a story behind these names - can anyone explain >or point me to an explanation - just curious ;-) *Gasp* sure you've seen "Toy Story" 1 & 2 I have heard there was a conneciton between debian and people who worked on the first film (others here would know better than I).. you could do worse with an afternoon than renting and watching both.
compile err
hi, i was trying to compile the 2.4.2 kernel and this error was the result of make bzImage. i would really appreciate if some one could tell me where i am goign wrong. thnaks in advance harsha
Re: [OT] running a PIII with no fan?
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 11:19:19PM -0800, Krzys Majewski wrote: > Noise. > -chris You might want to look at http://www.quietpc.com . They claim their CPU fans are practically inaudible. I ordered a SilentDrive enclosure from them and I'm very happy with it. Oliver
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RE: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #172
You have requested that the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] be deleted from the debian-user mailing list. You have NOT yet been unsubscribed from the list. To unsubscribe you need to confirm your unsubscription request by sending email to the address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the Subject string: CONFIRM u012508394619268 ??? > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : mardi, 27. mars 2001 08:20 > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : debian-user-digest Digest V101 #172 > > << Message: ATT00216.eml (1.53 Ko)>><< Message: Setting up internet w/ > Sygate Server (919 octets)>><< Message: correct fonts in console (669 > octets)>><< Message: Re: Running X apps when logged as su'd as root (1.47 > Ko)>><< Message: Re: I want to StartX Manually (1.11 Ko)>><< Message: > enlightenment deb repository? (286 octets)>><< Message: Re: Printer > reccommendation (1.33 Ko)>><< Message: Re: (OT) - Static electricity > grounding device? (1023 octets)>><< Message: Re: pon and user in debian > (382 octets)>><< Message: Re: pon and user in debian (1.09 Ko)>><< > Message: Re: (OT) - Static electricity grounding device? (1.02 Ko)>><< > Message: Re: Win4Lin (1.10 Ko)>><< Message: Re: problems in mounting cdrom > (1.12 Ko)>><< Message: Re: Win4Lin (519 octets)>><< Message: cups drivers > via kups not there (423 octets)>><< Message: Sid vs unstable (304 > octets)>><< Message: Re: GPM and XF86 (1.15 Ko)>><< Message: Re: (OT) - > Static electricity grounding device? (1.30 Ko)>><< Message: Re: Win4Lin > (451 octets)>><< Message: Problems with CD-writer in 2.4.2 (846 > octets)>><< Message: Re: Sid vs unstable (654 octets)>><< Message: Re: > Win4Lin (950 octets)>><< Message: Re: Problems with CD-writer in 2.4.2 > (513 octets)>><< Message: Re: my left arrow key doesn't work! (678 > octets)>><< Message: Re: (OT) - Static electricity grounding device? (945 > octets)>><< Message: RE: Problems with CD-writer in 2.4.2 (975 octets)>> <>
re : Re: Sid vs unstable
Hi, the story is very simple: every debian release has the name of a character from the movie Toy Story: Slink Woody Mr Potato Sid Buzz fred >> Debian distributions have a 'code-name': >> >> (the current) stable -> Potato >> (the current) testing -> Woody >> (the current) unstable -> Sid >>> >> Later, Woody will be the new stable and Sarge will be >>the new >> testing. Unstable will be always Sid. > >There must be reason or a story behind these names - can >anyone explain >or point me to an explanation - just curious ;-) > >Glyn M
3dfx & openGL? what do I need? (kernel 2.4, X 4.x)
I checked the debian planet, newsgroups etc and it looks like it should be working but it's not, here's the message that I get when I run glxinfo (or some GL program, e.g. atlantis of xscreensaver fame): jojda:~>glxinfo gd error (glide): Can't find or access Banshee/V3 board fx Driver: ERROR no Voodoo1/2 Graphics or Voodoo Rush ! display: :0.0 screen:0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: Brian Paul here's what I have installed: kernel modules: jojda:/home/erik# lsmod|grep tdfx tdfx 52656 0 libraries: un libglide-dev(no description available) un libglide2 (no description available) un libglide2-dev (no description available) ii libglide2-v3 2.60-6 Graphics library for Voodoo Banshee and Vood pn libglide2-vg(no description available) ii libglide3 2001.01.26-1 Graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards ii libglide3-dev 2001.01.26-1 development files for libglid for some reason I cannot uninstall libglide2 because: jojda:/home/erik# apt-get remove libglide2-v3 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: xpp The following packages will be REMOVED: gltron glutg3 gtkglarea4 kdebase libfltk1 libglide2-v3 mesag3-glide2 mozilla quake-3dfx space-orbit vncserver vreng wmanager xbase-clients xdm xf86setup xfonts-intl-european xfonts-jmk xlockmore-gl xscreensaver-gl xt mesa: un mesa-dev(no description available) pn mesa-doc(no description available) pn mesag-dev (no description available) un mesag-glide-de (no description available) un mesag2-dev (no description available) pn mesag3 (no description available) un mesag3+ggi (no description available) un mesag3-glide(no description available) ii mesag3-glide2 3.2.1-1A 3-D graphics library which uses the OpenGL looks like this one uses glide2, why do I have glide3 then? what's the deal? also: is 3dfx.o now obsolete? TIA erik
Re: gs : no output
christophe barbe wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to use pdq (a print spooler system) under potato. It uses > ghostscript to convert postscript to printer format file. > First I thought there was a problem with pdq but know I'm sure the problem > comes from gs. > I've tried a lot of command and the result is always the same : I obtain no > output. > I've tried gs and gs-aladin : same result. > > So the following command give me no output (and the output are redirected in > th standard output) > gs -sDEVICE=jpeg -sOutputFile=- test.ps > > The same command works pretty good on an other system (a RH one, boo ...). > I think the redirection on the standard output with the above command is the correct behavior, if you want to send it to the printer connected to your parallel port you should use something like "gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=jpeg -sOutputFile=/dev/lp0 test.ps". (the important part is the OutputFile option) Hope this could hep. Andrea
sendmail 8.9.3-23 woes
Hi! I have a stable box running sendmail 8.9.3-23 as a mailhub. Cleaning all masquerade-options off the .mc-file and re-running sendmailconfig still leaves DMdomain.net in the .cf. ka:/etc/mail# egrep domain sendmail.mc #Cwdomain.net #MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(ka.domain.net ka)dnl #MASQUERADE_AS(domain.net)dnl ka:/etc/mail# sendmailconfig Configure sendmail with the existing /etc/mail/sendmail.mc? [Y] Updating sendmail databases ... Checking sendmail.cf and databases. Scanning /etc/mail/sendmail.mc Creating /etc/mail/Makefile. done. Generating /etc/mail/sendmail.cf ... Informational: confUSERDB_SPEC file empty: /etc/mail/users /etc/mail/aliases: 160 aliases, longest 173 bytes, 4455 bytes total Reload the running sendmail now with the new configuration? [Y] Reloading sendmail ... ka:/etc/mail# egrep domain sendmail.cf # built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue Mar 27 10:26:08 CEST 2001 CMka.domain.net ka DMdomain.net ##Cwdomain.net Which means I had to fix the .cf by hand, defeating the purpose of sendmailconfig and the .mc-file. All other options make it to the .cf just fine, though. Anybody else noticed this? Should I file a bug-report against sendmail? tia, &rw -- -- As folks might have suspected, not much survives except roaches, -- and they don't carry large enough packets fast enough... -- About the Internet and nuclear war.
Re: [jimg@cray.com: X can't find font 'fixed' and I'm going nuts!]
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 12:23:50AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' same problem here, but purging xfonts-pex and xfonts-jmk packages solved the problem. ciao, andrea
Re: (OT) - Static electricity grounding device?
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:25:49 PDT, Jason Gunthorpe writes: > >On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Roberto Diaz wrote: > >> I really doubt very much that to connect your electric installation to >> your pipes installation is even legal.. ask an insurance company. > >It's common practice around here.. The pipe going out of the house is an >excellent ground. However, if you do it wrong, or the pipe is the wrong >sort you can do all sorts of nasty things to yourself. I've never seen >this sort of connection done using solder, I doubt it wold work. There are >special press connectors that are generally used. Be sure to use green >wire :> It depends solely on your country´s common practices and local laws. Here in .at it´s forbidden since beginning 2001 to use the plumbing and/ or water systems for grounding since many of the pipes have been replaced by plastic tubes. And yes, that way I myself experienced electric shocks in the shower :( *Not* a nice experience. >That said. Your house should already be well earthed. The 3rd prong on a >plug (the roundish one) is a path the grounding block in a fuse box which >then goes to either a metal pipe (water) or a metal stake. The third prong is afaik a .us-thingie anyway, other countries have other types. >A well built computer should connect all the metal case parts directly to >the ground prong on the outlet, so to dissipate static it is usually >sufficient to touch metal on a computer. Out of experience this isn´t always the case, but the power supply itself is always grounded, so touch the _power supply_ to be on the safe side, not just any metal. cheers, &rw -- -- Echte Maenner (tm) pfeifen in den Telefonhoerer. -- Nikolaus Rath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, DASR
Re: sendmail 8.9.3-23 woes
Robert Waldner wrote: > > Hi! > > I have a stable box running sendmail 8.9.3-23 as a mailhub. Cleaning > all masquerade-options off the .mc-file and re-running sendmailconfig > still leaves DMdomain.net in the .cf. > > ka:/etc/mail# egrep domain sendmail.mc > #Cwdomain.net > #MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(ka.domain.net ka)dnl > #MASQUERADE_AS(domain.net)dnl i don't think "#" counts as a comment in this case. i tried doing something similar and it did not work(on a source version of sendmail. looking at the mc file i think comments have something to do with the "divert" statement at the top of the file don't think it's a bug, its just how it is. m4 probably doesn't care or something nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3dfx & openGL? what do I need? (kernel 2.4, X 4.x)
Erik Steffl wrote: > looks like this one uses glide2, why do I have glide3 then? what's the > deal? simple. 3dfx cards support GLIDE v3 under Xfree86 4.x 3dfx cards support GLIDE v2 under Xfree86 3.x 3dfx cards support OPENGL under Xfree86 4.x virtually all games/apps that use glide use glide v2(i've yet to hear of one that uses glide 3) at one point i heard that 3dfx planned to support glide2 in xfree4 but that never happened and probably never will now. im a happy 3dfx user with xf86 3.3.6 on kernel 2.2.18 nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ld and php4pl1 - what is my problem?
Sven Hoexter wrote: > What's the problem??? > I compiled Apache + php a several times on diverent *nix and it worked. > > This box is a Debian 2.2 System (Intel based) clearly you don't have the gd library installed. i suggest installing it and the development side of it for compilation. or disable whatever is calling the gd library. package names like (apt-cache and packages.debian.org are your friends, use em) http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libgd&searchon=names&version=stable&release=all nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re : Re: Sid vs unstable
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, the story is very simple: every debian release has the name of a > character from the movie Toy Story: Slink Woody Mr Potato Sid Buzz > fred Right!! Research about to begin - many thanks Glyn M -- so here we are then http://members.tripod.co.uk/Christchurch2000uk Running Debian/Gnu Linux 10:53am up 1:44, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.02
Re: 3dfx & openGL? what do I need? (kernel 2.4, X 4.x)
Nate Amsden wrote: > > Erik Steffl wrote: > > > looks like this one uses glide2, why do I have glide3 then? what's the > > deal? > > simple. > > 3dfx cards support GLIDE v3 under Xfree86 4.x > 3dfx cards support GLIDE v2 under Xfree86 3.x > 3dfx cards support OPENGL under Xfree86 4.x how do I make this work? I have tdfx module (loade), libglide3 and libglide3-dev (like debian planet suggests), X output says that DRI is used etc... yet I get the message: jojda:/home/erik# atlantis gd error (glide): Can't find or access Banshee/V3 board fx Driver: ERROR no Voodoo1/2 Graphics or Voodoo Rush ! > virtually all games/apps that use glide use glide v2(i've yet to hear of one > that uses glide 3) this is confusing - I thought they use mesa (or basically any openGL lib) and mesa was in turn implemented to use glide, so if new mesa supports glide3 then all the games run fine... for example heretic2 says: GL_RENDERER: Mesa X11 GL_VERSION: 1.2 Mesa 3.1 beta GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point... yet it runs so slowly that you don't measure fps but seconds per frame (on pentium 1GH, 128MB RAM, 3dfx) - that's slow for even software rendering! thanks for the response... erik
Network Problems on Debian 2.2 box
Hi, Ok, the problem: I telnet, vnc, etc. (basically connect to the box with some sort of interactive client) and after about 5 mins (not sure couldn't quite time it) the client gets kicked of (Putty 0.51 reports Network error: Software caused connection abort). Now the machine refuses any network connections to for about 15-60 secs and sometimes during this period a subsequent portscan shows up ports that's definitly not on this machine (from which/what machine I don't know as a traceroute shows one hop which is correct and ngrep doesn't show anything usefull - not that I really know what to look for though). After this short period though I can reconnect only to be bumped of later again! The connection abort doesn't kill the telnet/bash session though and when I telnet in again the processes of the apps I was working on is still sitting there. A who shows me still connected (with the current session plus the previous ones shown) and killing the telnet process doesn't seem to refresh who's output. I'm running a 15 second delayed ping to an internet host in a screen session to try and see if the box looses connectivity but it seems fine, the only thing I can see is that it seems to pick up some network lag at intervals; the worst of which seem to conincide with being kicked, but not always! Where do I look to see what settings might control this type of behaviour, is there an app that does this? I've checked cron as well as at and the only jobs scheduled is mrtg and exim each every 30mins. I've attached the package list, process tree and extra info like the modules loaded. Please let me know what other info is required to make the picture clearer. The box has two 3com 905B NIC's sharing IRQ 10, with only one currently up. I want to set the box up as a Firewall/Proxy with a smtp gateway, and this behaviour will make internet access through it almost impossible! If it was just the telnet sessions timimg out I wouldn't have worried as much and accepted is as more of a security 'feature' but VNC sessions get booted as well, and I haven't set any timeouts! I'm pulling my hair out here, I've reinstalled this box twice and have the latest stable packages from my nearest mirror (ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/debian/) and security.debian.org! Thanks in advance, Eugene van Zyl init-+-atd |-cron |-getty |-getty |-getty |-getty |-getty |-getty |-gpm |-inetd---in.telnetd---bash---bash---pstree |-kflushd |-klogd |-kpiod |-kswapd |-kupdate |-pwcheck |-snort |-squid---squid-+-dnsserver | |-dnsserver | |-dnsserver | |-dnsserver | |-dnsserver | |-pinger | `-squid-+-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | |-squid | `-squid |-start---pike `-syslog-ng Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-=-=-== ii adduser 3.11.1Add users and groups to the system. ii ae962-26Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen editor ii apt 0.3.19Advanced front-end for dpkg ii at3.1.8-10 Delayed job execution and batch processing ii base-config 0.33.2Debian base configuration package ii base-files2.2.0 Debian base system miscellaneous files ii base-passwd 3.1.10Debian Base System Password/Group Files ii bash 2.03-6The GNU Bourne Again SHell ii bc1.05a-11 The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language ii bsdmainutils 4.7.1 More utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. ii bsdutils 2.10f-5.1 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. ii bzip2
Re: Sid vs unstable
on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:57:42PM +1000, John Griffiths ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Debian distributions have a 'code-name': > >> > >> (the current) stable -> Potato > >> (the current) testing -> Woody > >> (the current) unstable -> Sid > >> > >> Later, Woody will be the new stable and Sarge will be the new > >> testing. Unstable will be always Sid. > > > >There must be reason or a story behind these names - can anyone explain > >or point me to an explanation - just curious ;-) > > *Gasp* sure you've seen "Toy Story" 1 & 2 > > I have heard there was a conneciton between debian and people who > worked on the first film (others here would know better than I).. you > could do worse with an afternoon than renting and watching both. Bruce Perens and others (Ian Murdoch?) worked at Pixar. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpgDHWZqtZOa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X connection
on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:50:01PM -0800, Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:12:21PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I know xhost and xauth to get X connected from remote site. xhost > > is insecure and xauth is complicated. I see ssh has portforwarding > > (-X) for X. Can anyone pont me to how to do remote connection > > using ssh. > > Client side: > > $ ssh -X host > > Note that syntax has changed. Older clients may use a '+/-x' syntax. > Check your system. > > On the server side, you have to enable X11 forwarding. This may be > disabled by default. See /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Apologies, I didn't read through your post the first time through. If you are doing both the above an you still can't start any X applications, provide additional detail. Essentially, the following should work or provide more information. - Start in an existing X session as a user capable of displaying clients on the active display. - Connect to the remote host. For debugging purposes, use the verbose option: $ ssh -X -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2>&1 | tee ssh.log - Launch an X client from the remote client. I usually pick xlogo as a simple, light, fast test: $ xclient ...if any of this fails, check your debugging output for messages and post back. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpaciUTYqvo8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 3dfx & openGL? what do I need? (kernel 2.4, X 4.x)
Hi Erik, On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: > how do I make this work? I have tdfx module (loade), libglide3 and > libglide3-dev (like debian planet suggests), X output says that DRI is > used etc... yet I get the message: You need to install the xlibmesa3 package and, optionally, xlibmesa-dev for development. All of those old mesag* and glide* packages are no longer needed either; you might as well get rid of them. Also, make sure that your kernel supports AGP (CONFIG_AGP is m or y; and one of CONFIG_AGP_INTEL, CONFIG_AGP_I810, CONFIG_AGP_VIA, CONFIG_AGP_AMD, CONFIG_AGP_SIS, CONFIG_AGP_ALI, according to your chipset, is y). Note: this part is for 2.2.18. 2.4.x might be different, thought I haven't heard that to be the case. In your XF86Config-4 file, you need: Section "Module" ... Load "glx" Load "dri" ... EndSection Section "Device" ... Driver "tdfx" ... EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection [This gives all users access to DRI. To restrict access to userss in the xf86dri group, use the following, instead...] Section "DRI" Group "xf86dri" Mode 0660 EndSection Oh, and make sure that in the Section "Screen" that Depth is 16, since it won't work with 24 bit colour. Here is the relevant bit of output at startx: (0): [drm] created "tdfx" driver at busid "PCI:1:5:0" (0): [drm] added 4096 byte SAREA at 0xc511b000 (0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xc511b000 to 0x40017000 (0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xe400 (0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) TDFX(0): [drm] Registers = 0xe000 (II) TDFX(0): visual configs initialized (II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Dashed Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Driver provided NonTEGlyphRenderer replacement Setting up tile and stipple cache: 8 128x128 slots (==) TDFX(0): Backing store disabled (==) TDFX(0): Silken mouse enabled (0): X context handle = 0x0001 (0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (0): [DRI] installation complete (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering enabled Good luck! It's *really* nice when it works. One problem I have had: the OpenGL screensavers produce nasty flicker. When I just run the executibles, they don't. Also, no problem with Quake or TuxRacer. Anyone else experiencd this? Any idea why it might be? -- David Steinberg -o) Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]_\_v
Re: keyboard problems
on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 01:13:52AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I have a weird problem with my keyboard, but I'm not sure what to check > to figure out the problem. > > I have a desktop system, and the keyboard works as expected in X and in > the console. However when I ssh into my gateway box, the keyboards works > fine in the commandline, but when I run a command like say nslookup, my > backspace key stops working. > > Both systems are debian 2.2 stable. The keypad problem also occurs when > I ssh to my boxes at home (telnet does the same BTW) from my sunbox at work. > > I don't know much about terminal emulation, keymaps, and bindings, etc so > what can I read to try to troubleshoot this? I have a typical i386 style > keyboard with microsoft keys at home, and a type 5c sun keyboard at work. Just a "me too". Sometimes. I'll get a keyboard fsckup, generally in an X terminal, after invoking screen and bailing out of it in an unwholesome manner. No fix, but you're either not crazy or in good company. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpigsvDbp00N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reverting package installation state
on Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 10:23:31PM +0200, Felix E. Klee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > I accidentally hit the wrong keys in dselect (really one of the most > user-hostile and dangerous programs that I know) and now half of my > system is marked for uninstallation. Because I did not notice it at first > I immediately hit Install, didn't read the information about which > pacakges will be removed, but pressed ctrl-c quickly after seeing that > the wrong packages were beeing removed. Now, I have two questions: > > 1. Where do I find a logfile which contains the last actions undertaken by >dselect (actually dpkg)? No activity log of a session. Prior session state is saved unver /var/backups/dpkg.status.[0-9].gz > 2. I want to turn off all removal reuquests in the package list. How can >this be accomplished (shift-r doesn't work anymore)? Bail from dselect and do this manually through dpkg, values are 'hold', 'install', 'remove', and 'purge': $ dpkg --get-selections > file $ vi file # make your changes here $ dpkg --set-selections < file Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpYziO4DALMN.pgp Description: PGP signature
[SOLVED:] strange postgres7 php4 problem
hi, when using postgres 7.0.3 with php 4 on potato don't forget to create a symlink from /usr/lib/libpq.so.2.1 to /usr/lib/libpq.so.2.0 as apache expects the later one. yours martin -- /"\ ASCII RIBBON | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | .''`. | \ / CAMPAIGN AGAINST | work: http://www.factline.com | : :' : | X HTML MAIL | gpg-key: 30DC 1D28 1D79 32F5 5E67 | `. `' | / \ AND POSTINGS |3ABB 28EE B35A 3E8D CCC0 |`-|
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Re: gs : no output
Thank for your help. I've tried your command line and got still no output. Yesterday I've also upgraded to gs-aladdin 6.5 (I've rebuild the package from unstable) and still no output. I should have an interaction that I don't understand at all. Christophe On lun, 26 mar 2001 20:40:43 Andrea Vettorello wrote: > christophe barbe wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to use pdq (a print spooler system) under potato. It uses > > ghostscript to convert postscript to printer format file. > > First I thought there was a problem with pdq but know I'm sure the problem > > comes from gs. > > I've tried a lot of command and the result is always the same : I obtain no > > output. > > I've tried gs and gs-aladin : same result. > > > > So the following command give me no output (and the output are redirected > > in th standard output) > > gs -sDEVICE=jpeg -sOutputFile=- test.ps > > > > The same command works pretty good on an other system (a RH one, boo ...). > > > > I think the redirection on the standard output with the above command is the > correct behavior, if you want to send it to the > printer connected to your parallel port you should use something like "gs -q > -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=jpeg > -sOutputFile=/dev/lp0 test.ps". (the important part is the OutputFile option) > > Hope this could hep. > > > Andrea > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 www.lineo.com
Re: pon and user in debian
On Monday 26 March 2001 22:16, John Hasler wrote: > Bud Rogers writes: > > I think debian is set up that way by default. Just add the select > > users to the group dialout. > > 'dialout' is for serial port users. 'dip' is for ppp users. OK, I missed that distinction. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Software for Webcam
I'd like to buy a linux compatible usb webcam of the kind of Philips. My question is as simple as that: What are the X (gnone or kde) software in debian potato 2.2r2 CD's or web sites which I should install to look at the images generated by the webcam and to stream them through the internet? Vittorio
Re: apt-get update
Carel Fellinger wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:22:15PM -0500, Bill White wrote: Now, when I update, I frequently can't see packages with "dpkg -l", but I can install them. That is to say, if the package libmumble exists but is not installed, and I run "dpkg -l '*mumble*'" I used to get a line starting with "un". Now, dpkg tells me that nothing matches '*mumble*'. If, now, I run "apt-get install libmumble", the installation proceeds without any apparent problems. This doesn't Ha, bitten by this dselect/apt peculiarity too:) I find this confusing too, dselect uses apt, you've done a "apt-get update" yet dselect knows next to nothing. To make dselect aware of changes in the packet files you'll need to use dselect's Update menu. I use both dselect/apt 's update chooing unstable main and apt-get update , get the same result dpkg there are too many error then I reboot , grub still show only 2.2.18 kernal, I also almost not see any difference from the env before update how could I update / or upgrade to sid 2.4 kernal ? highly appreciate your tech help for newcomer sincere eric
Re: xscrabble for Debian?
"Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can anyone point me to a Debian package for xscrabble? > >I'm buildng a new machine for my SO & it's one of her favorites. Nobody seems to be working on it. I'll try to put something together. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Relational Data Base Managers
Alson van der Meulen wrote: >On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 01:18:46PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: >> Can some one give an objective comparison of the several >> relational database managers in debian (postgresql, mysql - are there >> any others?). >mysql and postgresql are the big free/open source rdbms, mysql is >small and nice for small applications, but postgresql is better for >large applications, mysql can't scale really well > >so use mysql for simple stuff, and postgresql for the real work :) > >there was some story by a sourceforge guy some weeks ago, >http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim2705.php3 > >mysql is only for simple tasks see articles at http://www.at.postgresql.org/inthenews.html -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C "Cast all your anxiety on him, because he cares for you." I Peter 5:7
Re: apt-get unmet dependencies
"D. Hoyem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I did a apt-get wmppp.app and that downloaded ok but gave me this >message..Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: >wmppp.app: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.97) but 2.1.3-17 is installed Unmet >dependencies. Try using -f. How do I resolve this? That package is built for woody/sid, and you're running potato. You'll need a package built for your distribution. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Promise Raid Card
I am trying to set up a Debian box and want to use a Promise Raid Card (mirrored) can anyone tell me what needs to be done for Debian to recognise it. Thanks in advance Bill
Re: X and S3 trio 3d/2x
I have that same card, and I have it working. Under X 3.3.6 use the SVGA server, under X 4.0.x I use VESA, and that works, but I suspect there is a better server(ie more HWA). Anybody knows which that could be? The card is also knows as S3 86c362 or 86c368 IIRC, maybe that's why you couldn't find support for it. Cheers, Oege On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 09:09:29AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > I use a S3 trio 3d/2x video card, which is not supported by X (even with > X4.0.2) with other han 640*480 in 256 colors mode (just annoying for a 8mo > card) > Does someone knows if a driver was recently released for this card or knows a > solution (except changin my card) to the problem? > Thanks in advance > Fred > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --
Re: pon and user in debian
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The group 'dip' already exists for that purpose and all the relevant > files are in it. The procedure outlined above adds users to it. > You can do the same thing with 'adduser'. A user in `dip' is allowed to call all the providers. Is there a simple way to restrict some users to some providers? Christoph
Re: Promise Raid Card
Hi, Bill Lumsden wrote: > I am trying to set up a Debian box and want to use a Promise Raid Card > (mirrored) can anyone tell me what needs to be done for Debian to recognise > it. > the only that i know is that suse has some kernel Patches for the Promise Fastrack Raid Ide controller. And it´s functionating but i don´t know how good or bad. I wait for a server with an Fastrack controller and 4 HD´s to form them to a raid device over a Promise Fasttrack controller. that´s all for now MfG daniel -- daniel sand | webmaster | system administration bildbau ag neue medien | gipsstrasse 10 | D-10119 berlin | www.bildbau.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] | tel +49 (0)30 28 01 71-0 | fax +49 (0)30 28 01 71-71
WaveLAN & Encryption
Dear all, at our lab, at my working place there was the encryption feature of the WaveLAN activated. As usual, the support group could help for Windows but failed for Linux. Does anyone know where I have to set the key, and how to set it such that the encryption feature of our WaveLAN can be used by a Lucent WaveLAN card as well? BTW: I make use of the latest available drivers from www.wavelan.org and I have an up-to-date firmware on my card. Thanks in advance for any help! Regards, Lukas -- Lukas RufSwiss Federal Institute of Technology Office: ETZ-G61.2 Computer Engineering and Phone: +41/1/632 7312Networks Laboratory (TIK) Fax: +41/1/632 1035 ETH Zentrum PGP 2.6: ID D20BA2ED;Gloriastr. 35 Fingerprint 6323 B9BC 9C8E 6563 B477 BADD FEA6 E6B7CH-8092 Zurich
Re: OpenSSH grief part 2
On 25 Mar 2001, at 10:24, Krzys Majewski wrote: > it gives "1.99", that probably means the daemon is capable of ssh2. > Make sure you have a host DSA key (/etc/ssh/host_key or whatever) and > a user DSA key (~/.ssh/identity or whatever). It does say 1.99 - and I am proud to say that installing libpam-dev and compiling --with-pam fixed things. Why or how I have no idea, but it did. > Maybe the fact that it works on one of your machines is a fluke, and > there is a bug in the openssh code that prevents it from working if > the DSA keys are missing. I really don't know what to think at this point. Oh, well, it works. To the next problem... > -chris Thanks for helping out, everyone. Regards, Luigi Fabio - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Slovak for StarOffice
Is there a slovak spell-checking dictionary for StarOffice? Spell? Ispell? Anything else? All ideas are welcome. aTdHvAaNnKcSe Miso&Frankie pgpi45axxibIs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pon and user in debian
CG> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The group 'dip' already exists for that purpose and all the relevant >> files are in it. The procedure outlined above adds users to it. >> You can do the same thing with 'adduser'. CG> A user in `dip' is allowed to call all the providers. Is there a CG> simple way to restrict some users to some providers? One way is using sudo without adding users into dip. The problem with adding user into dip is that you give him/her ability to run pppd with any configs and options he/her wishes (pon is just a wrapper for pppd). With sudo you can give some users rights to run some commands with dip privileges without adding them into dip group. -- Ilya Martynov AGAVA Software Company, http://www.agava.com
Re: (OT) - Static electricity grounding device?
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Roberto Diaz wrote: > > > I really doubt very much that to connect your electric installation to > > > your pipes installation is even legal.. ask an insurance company. > > It's common practice around here.. The pipe going out of the house is an > > excellent ground. However, if you do it wrong, or the pipe is the wrong > > sort you can do all sorts of nasty things to yourself. I've never seen > > this sort of connection done using solder, I doubt it wold work. There are > > special press connectors that are generally used. Be sure to use green > > wire :> > > I am living in a flat.. several years ago me and my neighbours noticed > electric socks at bathroom.. a research shown it was due to a > "wise" new neighbour who has been using his pipes to ground his domestic > electric devices.. > > It is much better to ask your electric company.. they are the only ones > who realy can to know how to ground your home properly. Sound advice. The problem with the water-pipe ground is that your pipes may not actually be grounded. Many of the more modern systems have a nonconducting union near the supply connection, specifically inserted to break the circuit to ground. (This is to prevent electrolytic corrosion of water meters, pumps, and the like.) Even if your water system doesn't have one, it may not be well earthed, which could allow dangerous voltages to be present at the taps. Your supply connection, for example, may be entirely plastic, even if you have copper or steel pipe in the house. Or the soil may be too dry for proper conduction. A tested, dedicated electrical ground is the only way to be sure. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make a good day.
Re: deleting specific files
Hi Karsten, thank you very much for your very detailed answer! Abrazos, Marcelo On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 03:09:35PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Please respond to list mail on-list. Reply redirected to list. > Reply-to: set to list. > > on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:23:15PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Karsten > > > > thank you very much for your illustrating answer! > > Now, I am new to linux and Debian, so I would like to understand more > > of your answer: > > > > > > > I need to delete a bunch of files, all of them of the form > > > > > *.doc, scattered into several subdirectories inside a given > > > > > directory. What should I do? > > > > > Several options: > > > - Create a script. This *is* my preferred method. > > > > > > $ find . -type f -name \*.doc | sed -e '/.*/s//rm &/' > rmscript > > > # Edit the script to make sure it's got The Right Stuff > > > $ vi rmscript > > > # run it > > > $ chmod +x rmscript; ./rmscript > > > > > > > where is the script in your example above? (sorry, I knew this is a > > stupid question, but...). Of course the script's name is rmscript, but > > what's inside it? > > Well, the easy answer is "run it and see". > > Initially, the output from the find command, with 'rm ' prepended to the > start of each line. After you edit it, whatever you've added or > removed. > > Say I've got a directory tree: > > /tmp/foo > `-- bar > `-- baz > > With the following files in it: > > /tmp/foo/bar/qux.doc > /tmp/foo/bar.doc > /tmp/foo/baz.doc > > When I run the find command listed above, rmscript contains: > > rm /tmp/foo/bar/qux.doc > rm /tmp/foo/bar.doc > rm /tmp/foo/baz.doc > > Supposing I wanted to keep 'qux.doc', I'd edit it out of the script > (delete the line). > > How exactly you deal with the file is up to you. While I've > programmatically created all the commands (in this simple instance), you > could also just dump in a raw list of filenames and use vi editing > commands to substitute and replace within the script. > > > thank you for your patiente... > > De nada. (Sorry, I know that's Spanish and not Portuguese). > > -- > Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal > http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org -- Marcelo Chiapparini DFT-IF/UERJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3dfx & openGL? what do I need? (kernel 2.4, X 4.x)
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:46:37AM -0800, David Steinberg wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: > > how do I make this work? I have tdfx module (loade), libglide3 and > > libglide3-dev (like debian planet suggests), X output says that DRI is > > used etc... yet I get the message: > > You need to install the xlibmesa3 package and, optionally, xlibmesa-dev > for development. > > All of those old mesag* and glide* packages are no longer needed either; > you might as well get rid of them. ... David, I have dumped those packages (I'm running X v.4), but then discovered an app. which is linked against them. How can one run that, given the conflict with xlibmesa3 ? Kenward -- It is not so very important for a person to learn facts. For that he doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from books. The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein
Re: permissions and fstab
Hi Carel thank you very much for your answer. Now a stupid question: how can I find the uid and gid of my account? Thanks in advance Marcelo On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:19:46AM +0200, Carel Fellinger wrote: > Hi Marcello, > > 2) Mount by root, but for a specific user: >in /etc/fstab change the entry for that dos partition like this: > >/dev/hda1 /winfun vfat defaults,uid=1001,gid=1001,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 2 > >this will allow root but also the user with uid 1001 and gid 1001 >to read and write to that partition. Only root can mount it. >[[ I've added the flags noexec,nosuid,nodev as they were implied by > the user flag ]] > -- Marcelo Chiapparini DFT-IF/UERJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) - Static electricity grounding device?
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Robert Waldner wrote: [snip] > >A well built computer should connect all the metal case parts directly to > >the ground prong on the outlet, so to dissipate static it is usually > >sufficient to touch metal on a computer. > > Out of experience this isn´t always the case, but the power supply > itself is always grounded, so touch the _power supply_ to be on the > safe side, not just any metal. Anyway, w.r.t. static, the important thing is not being at ground potential (whatever that means) but having all parts at the *same* potential. Touching bare metal in the case or chassis (the power supply is a good choice) will bring your body to the same potential as that of the parts in the computer. Laying sensitive parts in a similar position, while still in the antistatic packaging, should do the same for them. I've heard advice that you should do this with the mains power *dis*connected, and on reflection that's excellent advice. That way you take care of high-voltage low-current static charges, and avoid the lower-voltage high-current mains that can kill you. Plus, you could pick up an inexpensive antistatic wrist strap for just a few dollars. If you do a lot of work inside computer cases, it's a worthwhile investment. Outfits like Jensen Tools have wrist straps, antistatic floor mats and benchtoppers, toe/heel straps, you name it. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make a good day.
Re: enlightenment deb repository?
> Does anyone know of an enlightenment deb repository I can > add to /etc/apt/sources.list? This page, http://www.bsu-hog.org/sources.list, has an entry for enlightenment packages, but I'm unable to connect to the site right now. Otherwise, I have the entry at home and can post it later if you also can't connect. Regards Hall
Re: permissions and fstab
MC> thank you very much for your answer. Now a stupid question: how MC> can I find the uid and gid of my account? use command 'id' -- Ilya Martynov AGAVA Software Company, http://www.agava.com
Re: Re: permissions and fstab
Salve Marcelo Chiapparini, > thank you very much for your answer. Now a stupid question: how can I find > the > uid and gid of my account? $ id -- Paolo Pedaletti, Como, ITALYa www.fastflow.it/~paolop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4755831
Re: PPP
W.T. Boman writes: > The directory /etc/ppp does not show pap-secrects file but does show > pap-secrets.bak. 'mv pap-secrets.bak pap-secrets' as root should get you running. > What package on my potato cdrom contains this file... It is created by the ppp package. Please post the output of 'dpkg -s ppp'. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Getting dselect to read .deb files without Packages,Release,etc files
Hi, How do I get dselect or another apt frontend tool read and use locally downloaded .deb files for which I'm unable (read apt-move, dpkg-scan-packages dosn't do it - I don't know how to get it to) to create the appropriate Packages & Release files and directory structure. apt-move doesn't like ftp.is.co.za 's dir structure and just generally seemed not to work. dpkg-scanpackages requires me to create a override file ... lots of manual work and faulty. Do I use some other tool ? and will it pick up and use the correct files for dependencies? TIA, Eugene van Zyl
Re: Getting dselect to read .deb files without Packages,Release,etc files
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:16:07PM +0200, Eugene van Zyl wrote: > Hi, > > How do I get dselect or another apt frontend tool read and use locally > downloaded .deb files for which I'm unable (read apt-move, dpkg-scan-packages > dosn't do it - I don't know how to get it to) to create the appropriate > Packages & Release files and directory structure. apt-move doesn't like > ftp.is.co.za 's dir structure and just generally seemed not to work. > dpkg-scanpackages requires me to create a override file ... lots of manual > work and faulty. > Do I use some other tool ? and will it pick up and use the correct files for > dependencies? > I always use 'dpkg' to install locally downloaded debs. # dpkg -i package.deb Check the man page for more. Yes it checks the dependencies. kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
kernel question
Help my hard drive has sustained very large physical damage. it boots sort of. as I use a multi processor system I would like to keep my kernel (it was a pain to configure) what is the best way of backing up my kernel? and restoring it! Dean Jackson TeleWare email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone 01908 251474 <> This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp Dean Jackson (E-mail).vcf Description: Binary data
Re: (OT) - Static electricity grounding device?
I agree with the info below. May I pass on another hint I was given many years ago. Before you start work, spit on your hands and rub them together. Some people's skin is very dry, and you want it to be slightly conductive. It also convinces the electronics that you mean business. ;-) On 27-Mar-2001 Mark H. Wood wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Robert Waldner wrote: > [snip] >> >A well built computer should connect all the metal case parts >> >directly to >> >the ground prong on the outlet, so to dissipate static it is >> >usually >> >sufficient to touch metal on a computer. >> snipety snip -- E-Mail: Dave Whiteley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 27-Mar-2001 Time: 15:36:37 Phone: 0113 233 2059 Missing .sig (I am trying to give them up.) --
RE: kernel question
This WON't be easy if you're systemdisk is really damaged. It's pretty hard to explain this in an email because of the variety of conditions, let us know if you're getting somewhere or feeling rather lost. Did you allready boot into single user mode and run efsck2 ? Maybe you're just experiencing some other problem than real-life disk damage. Your system had a powerfailure and your filetables are messed up ... It boot's ? Take a look at step one and two below. Start making backups NOW. then reinstall your system, it's likely that it suffered a lot of damage. Some scenario = first of all : GET yourself some bootdisk/cd wich can be used to mount the root filesystem if that succeeded look for /boot and copy these contents to somewhere safe (will restore other kernels also, might want to narrow down the selection a bit) if there IS no /boot t you'll probably have to mount it, make sure you know wich is wich and go for a backup all the same second : you could try to see if your /usr/src directory's are intact, if you were smart enough to save your kernelconfig into a config file back up this file and start to reinstall, this would be the most flexible way to go. Do you remember if you did and where you left the config file ? Doesn't boot ? : if your drive is really seriously damaged start reading up on configuring SMP kernels, you'll HAVE to do it again with another disk. Good Luck to you, joris -Original Message- From: JACKSON, DEAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 27 maart 2001 16:33 To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Subject: kernel question Help my hard drive has sustained very large physical damage. it boots sort of. as I use a multi processor system I would like to keep my kernel (it was a pain to configure) what is the best way of backing up my kernel? and restoring it! Dean Jackson TeleWare email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone 01908 251474 <> This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp
Re: nis server and client
Read /usr/share/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz after you instal NIS. Very concise and informative. -Igor Mozetic
kernel 2.2.19 and module problems
I upgraded to kernel 2.2.19 by executing the command: apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-blah. This worked fine. However, I recompiled the kernel because I needed to enable scsi emulation so I could use my cd-rw. The recompile(make menuconfig;make dep;make clean;make bzImage;make modules;make modules_install) went fine. modules.dep wasn't generated in the new modules directory. "Can't open lib/../../modules.dep" was the message I got on rebooting How do I fix this? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: Getting dselect to read .deb files without Packages,Release,etc files
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How do I get dselect or another apt frontend tool read and use locally >downloaded .deb files for which I'm unable (read apt-move, >dpkg-scan-packages dosn't do it - I don't know how to get it to) to >create the appropriate Packages & Release files and directory structure. >apt-move doesn't like ftp.is.co.za 's dir structure and just generally >seemed not to work. dpkg-scanpackages requires me to create a override >file ... lots of manual work and faulty. You can use /dev/null as an override file and just use the sections and priorities from the packages. Or try apt-ftparchive if you happen to be running testing/unstable and have apt-utils installed. Those are the only tools I know of that will create the Packages file. Note that you need to gzip the Packages file if you use dpkg-scanpackages; I think apt-ftparchive will do that for you. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3dfx & openGL? what do I need? (kernel 2.4, X 4.x)
On Wed 28 Mar 01, 1:28 AM, Erik Steffl said: > > this is confusing - I thought they use mesa (or basically any openGL > lib) and mesa was in turn implemented to use glide, so if new mesa > supports glide3 then all the games run fine... erik, glide is not mesa and mesa is not glide. mesa is an implementation of opengl which uses whatever resources are available to render. glide is a very low-level library that accesses the 3D capabilities of your board. and you can't do much with it. you can set a point of view, define a triangle and couple of other things. very low level. glide and mesa are not orthogonal -- they work together. in other words. an application receives an opengl command. it uses mesa to render whatever it is that needs to be rendered. opengl makes use of glide to perform certain operations ultra quickly. that's the relationship between mesa and glide. pete
Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat
Can someone explain the advantage many see in Debian upgrades vrs. RedHat? To take a concrete example, lets say I planned to start upgrading my home throwaway box (where I put up slink a few years back). I have only installed so far using dpackage. If I do apt-gets for a whole set of packages, I will get my add-ons upgraded to the latest and greatest (if I understand this correctly). But I still will have to make a plan & upgrade the *system* software, right? I.e., *everything* isn't packaged. Am I missing something? While I can see that getting the add-on stuff uptodate is of great value, I would rather be able to install a set of packages (with fall-back capability) to do an upgrade. Am I missing something? TIA, Darryl _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Re: kernel 2.2.19 and module problems
Denzil Kelly wrote: I upgraded to kernel 2.2.19 by executing the command: apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-blah. This worked fine. However, I recompiled the kernel because I needed to enable scsi emulation so I could use my cd-rw. The recompile(make menuconfig;make dep;make clean;make bzImage;make modules;make modules_install) went fine. modules.dep wasn't generated in the new modules directory. "Can't open lib/../../modules.dep" was the message I got on rebooting How do I fix this? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text I copy and paste your install command lshih:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-blah Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.2.19-blah but not work lshih:~# uname -r 2.2.18 my version is 2.2.18 need expert's help thanks in advance sincere eric
Re: Printer reccommendation
"Roberto Diaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I've never had problems configuring an HP on Linux, and they're > > pretty reliable my Epson Stylus 740 prints like crap, and started > > doing so, right after the warranty ran out, so I'd recommend > > against Epson (but then that's only one printer, it could have > > been a fluke), and there's not a whole lot of support for their > > models. > > I completely agree with you.. HP printers are great.. and epson are > very prone to failures... > > I advise to purchase a laser printer for everybody who want a > printer just to print out documentation hp 1100 is a very nice > choice for this and if you buy recicled tonners then the ratio price > per printer page is realy good. > > For those who want a color printer.. well I see no point in buy an > "unexpensive" color printer since their quality is realy bad not to > mention the ratio price per printer page which makes the investment > really bad in the middle term. > > For printout photographs the best choice is an **expensive** color > printer.. I disagree with this, and I hear it a lot. I have a HP 932C and yep, the price per page is bad, especially with the photo-paper it needs to print decent photos, but then I find myself printing about 5 photo pages a month. Hardly worth the cost of a color laser-printer with equivalent quality. In fact, I've had my inkjet about a year now and have yet to replace an ink cartridge. I think inkjets fill a valuable niche in the market for a lot of us small, home-office folks who only need a printer occasionally, but want decent quality and speed when we do need a printout, and don't want to fork over a couple thousand $ for a decent color laser printer. That's my two cents worth, Gary
Re: apt-get update
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:06:05AM -0700, eric wrote: ... > I use both dselect/apt 's update chooing unstable main and apt-get > update , get the same result > dpkg there are too many error > > then I reboot , grub still show only 2.2.18 kernal, I also almost not > see any difference from the env before update This seems a totally different problem, please give much, much more info, like the error message, and better start a new thread on it. > how could I update / or upgrade to sid 2.4 kernal ? > > highly appreciate your tech help for newcomer If you're a newcommer to linux/unix in general I urge you to stay away from sid. Stick to potato and use the address posted recently to add potato specific packages to support kernels from the 2.4-series. -- groetjes, carel
Re: Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 03:22:14PM +, Darryl Röthering wrote: > Can someone explain the advantage many see in Debian upgrades vrs. RedHat? Let me give you today's example: upgrading ssh on debian: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade if that's not good enough put in a testing or unstable line in apt's sources.list and apt-get -b source ssh. this should work on justabout any debian version. upgrading ssh on redhat: beat head aginst the wall as you try and find a version of openssh for rh5.x. HAHAHAHA. oh the pain. I gave up eventually and tried getting the openssh source rpm. this needed rpm v4+ so I found and downloaded that. this needed db3 so I grabbed and downloaded that. it also needed poht? (can't remember the exact name) ok. that's done. rpm --rebuild openssh-blah-src.rpm gives me a help screen. doesn't tell me what's wrong. no error what-so-ever. just a fscking help screen. how effin unhelpful is that? anyhow, eventually it dawns on me that there might be another package and... low and behold, there is. I download that and install it. now I'm set rpm --rebuild openssh-blah-src.rpm ladida... it has... dependencies... bugger. doesn't tell you which ones haven't been met though. time to slug it out and detect and get that sorted. (one bonus point to rpm here. at least it says the src rpm has dependencies. src 'deb's' (no such thing really) have to be done by trial and error) right. sorted. ladida... gcc doesn't support some options. ok. I guess that CFLAGS will work with rpm and get past that. THEN it can't find openssl. that's ok. It was installed from tarball. I'll go and find a new one... bt... no go. none that are for 5.x. snog it. try -L and -I flags in CFLAGS in the hope they work. nyet. man rpm to find out if there's other env vars I can try. none spotted. snog it. snog it all to hell. time to install from tarball and so finally it works. now I don't hav e THAT much experience with rpm. I could be missing major plotholes here but hell. it shouldn't be this difficult. I've compiled dep source 'packages' (for want of a better word) with less pain (except for ones from unstable which were broken... not suprising for unstable packages). also, I have no plans to upgrade these servers from 5.x. i fear what in gods name may break. I'll just build replacements with debian and have the redhat boxes decomissioned. > To take a concrete example, lets say I planned to start upgrading my home > throwaway box (where I put up slink a few years back). > > I have only installed so far using dpackage. > > If I do apt-gets for a whole set of packages, I will get my add-ons upgraded > to the latest and greatest (if I understand this correctly). But I still > will have to make a plan & upgrade the *system* software, right? I.e., > *everything* isn't packaged. erm. everything on your setup should be packaged unless you've manually installed stuff from tarball or whatnot. > Am I missing something? While I can see that getting the add-on stuff > uptodate is of great value, I would rather be able to install a set of > packages (with fall-back capability) to do an upgrade. > > Am I missing something? Maybe. not sure. if you're planning to upgrade your box from slink to potato (say) then I can't give you much in the way of advice except to say a dist upgrade from potato to woody went fine for me with no real problems (I wanted to give it a go on a box). -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *** Jenna has joined the channel. speaking of mental giants.. me, a giant, bullshit And i'm not mental - An IRC session, 20/12/2000
Re: GLUG: Getting dselect to read .deb files without Packages,Release,etc files
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:16:07PM +0200, Eugene van Zyl wrote: > How do I get dselect or another apt frontend tool read and use locally > downloaded .deb files for which I'm unable (read apt-move, dpkg-scan-packages > dosn't do it - I don't know how to get it to) to create the appropriate > Packages & Release files and directory structure. apt-move doesn't like > ftp.is.co.za 's dir structure and just generally seemed not to work. > dpkg-scanpackages requires me to create a override file ... lots of manual > work and faulty. > Do I use some other tool ? and will it pick up and use the correct files for > dependencies? Grab .deb with your normal ftp client and then do a dpkg --install package.deb The frontends etc will not be able to work without the package list. Mmm, dpkg-ftp might also help you -- but never tried it. -- -- Craig Balfour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Network Supervisor Chemical Engineering, UCT, Private Bag, Rondebosch, 7701 Tel: +27 (0)21 6504438; Fax: +27 (0)21 6897579 GnuPG key available via finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Kernel panic after upgrade to 2.4.2
Thanks in advance for your help. I decided to go to kernel 2.4.2 on my testing box. Did a apt-get install to get the source. Got my old config file from /boot and put it in the source and did a make oldconfig. I then did a make xconfig and made sure that I had ext2 support and elf and a.out all compiled in (along with the other options that I wanted) It compiled with no errors except it did complain about not being able to find /usr/src/modules but it went on from there (I assumed that was if I wanted a non standard module and ignored it) In any case I got my .deb (make-kpkg revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image was the command I used to make it) and did a dpkg -i it all ran well with no errors. I ran lilo a couple of times just to be sure. :) And did a reboot. And now I am getting a kernel panic saying can't mount the root device 030:030 and to add a correct root paramater. I have the right root paramater in lilo.conf (root=/dev/hda3) and also tried passing it this by hand at the lilo prompt Linux root=/dev/hda3. I'm still getting the same error message. My old kernel still boots fine. So any ideas on how I managed to break it? Once again thanks very much.
Re: I want to StartX Manually
Robert Cymbala wrote: > > Dan wrote: > > To Whom It May Concern, > > > > > > I want to start the XServer Manually and not on boot. How do I do > > this. I have looked in the lilo.conf, xfree86.cong, and the inetd.cong > > thinking it was in there, but couldnt find anything. Where is it loacted? > > > > Any help will be honored. > > > > Thanks, > > Dan > > Andrew wrote: > >Get rid of /etc/rc*/*xdm . > > > >Alternatively, edit /etc/init.d/xdm to avoid starting xdm. > > > >ap > Hi, I've got another method: runlevels! Default is runlevel 2 (/etc/inittab). If you remove the links to xdm from rc2.d, xdem will only start if you say (as root of course): init 3. See also man update-rc.d Greetings Albrecht
lm-sensors with kernel-package
Hi! I apt-got lm-sensors-source and lm-sensors. The sources are in /usr/src/modules My current kernel-source is /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.18pre21 I do not want to patch my kernel but use it as a module. I've read that I may want to use kernel-package to install the modules. I altered the Makefile and set the right path to the kernel-source: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.18pre21 Now what shall I do? Simply type make-kpkg -revision=X.X. modules_image and then dpkg -i ../modules.X.X.deb I have built my kernel with make-kpkg, which is a wonderful tool, but is this the right way to install lm-sensors? Do I have to compile a new kernel first? What are the required steps? TIA! juh -- Antifa-Stoiber will den braunen Sumpf trockenlegen http://www.sudelbuch.de/2000/2813.html
Re: permissions and fstab
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:34:58AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > Hi Carel > > thank you very much for your answer. Now a stupid question: how can I find > the > uid and gid of my account? Either us the command id $ id uid=1001(carel) gid=1001(carel) groups=1001(carel),24(cdrom),29(audio),104(gezin),105(ouders),107(cvs),109(cvskids),110(cvsthuis) Or look through /etc/passwd. $ grep carel /etc/passwd carel:x:1001:1001:Carel Fellinger,,,:/home/carel:/bin/bash [[ in /etc/passwd, the first number is your uid, the second your gid ]] -- groetjes, carel
Re: Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat
(Original reordered somewhat...) Darryl RXthering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DR> I have only installed so far using dpackage. DR> DR> If I do apt-gets for a whole set of packages, I will get my add-ons DR> upgraded to the latest and greatest (if I understand this DR> correctly). But I still will have to make a plan & upgrade the DR> *system* software, right? I.e., *everything* isn't packaged. Nope. Pretty much everything is packaged; using 'apt-get dist-upgrade' should get you the most recent version of everything, except the kernel. What you're thinking of as the "system software" is probably the packages in the Debian "base" section; these get upgraded along with everything else. The one exception to this is the kernel; since it's reasonable to have multiple kernel versions installed, each is in its own package. You can manually install the most recent kernel package or not; things should still work fine. So: DR> Can someone explain the advantage many see in Debian upgrades DR> vrs. RedHat? To take a concrete example, lets say I planned to start DR> upgrading my home throwaway box (where I put up slink a few years DR> back). In a sense, Red Hat *only* contains the "system software", so there's no real way to upgrade everything (including "add-ons"). Just finding the right RPM for a particular package is a pain; if you go to e.g. rpmfind you get a big mass of packages, one of which might match your distribution's libraries and use a compatible version of RPM. And upgrading a Red Hat distribution, especially between major versions, is pretty much impossible; I've heard people have had very good results upgrading between versions of Debian. In short, to upgrade a Debian box between stable versions, you need to check that your /etc/apt/sources.list file is correct (contains an entry for "stable"), and run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade', answer some questions, and you're done. (Appropriate modifications of this using CDs are certainly possible.) With Red Hat, you pretty much need to completely reinstall. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell
Re: kernel 2.2.19 and module problems
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:22:32AM -0700, eric wrote: ... > I copy and paste your install command > > lshih:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-blah > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.2.19-blah > > but not work That's because there is no such thing as kernel-image-2.2.19-blah:) He just used blah as a shorthand to save him the time to lookup the exact name of that package. This is the second thread you hijacked, first you needed a 2.4 kernel, now you trying a 2.2.19 kernel. So you obviously need a new kernel:) Please tell us more so we can help you better. Like what is it that you need in the new kernel, usb support or iptables or what? Then tell us what version of Debian you are running: stable (=potato), testing (=woody) or even unstable (=sid). Then tell us the exact command sequence you tried and the full error messages you got. -- groetjes, carel
Re: Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat
CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Let me give you today's example: Nit: your example wasn't comparing apples and apples. You were running an up-to-date Debian system and an old RedHat system, which didn't ship ssh in the first place. With a current RH system, it would have been something like * ftp to favorite rh mirror * grovel through directory structure to find the 7.0 updates * download openssh rpms * rpm -Uvh them This is more work than Debian, but not nearly as bad as you paint it to be. (You also get a much more recent version of openssh than you would on a potato system.) If you'd been trying this with a slink or hamm system, would apt-get have been able to do anything? In general, the advantages I see over redhat in terms of packaging are * Much more packaged, and all to the same standards * Much more likely then that anything you want will be packaged and upgradable automatically * Much easier to keep packages up-to-date, since you need to do it yourself with rpmfind or autorpm on RH, or pay to use up2date * Much easier to download new packages as you need them with apt-get. All told, that means one is more likely to keep a system updated and secure. But please don't try to demonstrate that RH is unusable simply because you don't know it as well as you use Debian... the reverse could just as easily be said. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Good day to avoid cops. Crawl to school.
Re: Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat
Darryl Röthering writes: > Am I missing something? Yes. _everything_ is packaged, and apt handles all the dependencies. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: kernel 2.2.19 and module problems
Carel Fellinger wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:22:32AM -0700, eric wrote: I copy and paste your install command lshih:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-blah Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.2.19-blah but not work That's because there is no such thing as kernel-image-2.2.19-blah:) He just used blah as a shorthand to save him the time to lookup the exact name of that package. This is the second thread you hijacked, first you needed a 2.4 kernel, now you trying a 2.2.19 kernel. So you obviously need a new kernel:) Please tell us more so we can help you better. Like what is it that you need in the new kernel, usb support or iptables or what? Then tell us what version of Debian you are running: stable (=potato), testing (=woody) or even unstable (=sid). Then tell us the exact command sequence you tried and the full error messages you got. thanks, I took off blah, it is installing
Re: Relational Data Base Managers
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 13:18:46 -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: > Can some one give an objective comparison of the several > relational database managers in debian (postgresql, mysql - are there > any others?). I've seen an ITP for InterBase (e.g. firebird.sourceforge.net), but no packages yet. As for MySQL v PostgreSQL, you may want to check out http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html which lists a number of reasons why OpenACS (a RDBMS-heavy project) choose not to support MySQL. Some of those reasons may no longer apply (e.g. recent versions of MySQL support transactions), but much of it is still valid, in particular if you require features to be time-tested. Tim Perdue, "MySQL and PostgreSQL Compared", http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim2705.php3 is also a very useful resource. In my experience, PostgreSQL is a reliable RDBMS that supports many features that make development of database-heavy applications easy, such as a large sub-set of SQL (including e.g. subselects and views), transactions, referential integrety (foreign keys), constraints, triggers (e.g. using the Pl/PgSQL extension language). I'm using all of them in a telecom (voice) billing application I'm responsible for at work. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Win4Lin (fwd)
You wrote: > Ok... yeah I just check and it seems that they are writing patch for 2.4 > kernel but nothing comes out yet. and until I figure out if my UMAX usb > scanner and usb logitech webcam pro works under win4lin, I will not buy it. The way I understand it, if it works under Linux, then it'll work under Win4Lin. Win4Lin uses the underlying systems (i.e., printing, networking, etc.) to accomplish it's tasks. I haven't really tested this fully, but I haven't found any device that works with Win4Lin but doesn't work under Linux. Just my .02. -- steve
Re: kernel 2.2.19 and module problems
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 06:57:24AM -0800, Denzil Kelly wrote: > I upgraded to kernel 2.2.19 by executing the command: > apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-blah. This worked > fine. However, I recompiled the kernel because I > needed to enable scsi emulation so I could use my > cd-rw. The recompile(make menuconfig;make dep;make > clean;make bzImage;make modules;make modules_install) > went fine. modules.dep wasn't generated in the new > modules directory. "Can't open lib/../../modules.dep" > was the message I got on rebooting How do I fix this? > Try the kernel-package. It is much cleaner than the manual method. Check the following link for the specifics: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html This should be a big help. ->W -- ~~~ Wesley Wannemacher Instructor / Network Administrator University of Northwestern Ohio http://www.unoh.edu/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ "We all agree on the necessity of compromise. We just can't agree on when it's necessary to compromise." -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat
"David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And upgrading a Red Hat distribution, especially between major
> versions, is pretty much impossible; I've heard people have had very
> good results upgrading between versions of Debian.
I think that Debian people are just smarter at doing things the Debian
way than RH users are at doing things the RH way.
Upgrading a Redhat dist between major versions is quite doable. It's
trival between minor versions. But this depends on the admin having
done everything the RH way, so things can be upgraded easily.
It's depressingly common for RH admins to start replacing things with
tarballs here, rewrite init scripts to init your network instead of
using the provided hooks, etc. This stuff breaks on upgrades. If you
were to do the same stuff on Debian, it would probably break too.
Having done the RHL4->5->6->6.9beta->7.0 upgrades, I'm comfortable in
saying it can be done without much more pain than an rpm --rebuild on
your home-built RPMs and a bit of attention in /etc to check what
.rpm{save,new} popped up. (And a reboot, since you can't upgrade a
live system between versions.)
Again, it's probably the fact that Debian has everything packaged that
makes it easier to manage. A RH admin will have to install more
non-dist packages, and probably hasn't learned that rpmifying them
instead of just make install is a good idea.
--
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors!
The Macintosh is Xerox technology at its best.
Re: Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat
David Z. Maze wrote: The one exception to this is the kernel; since it's reasonable to have multiple kernel versions installed, each is in its own package. You can manually install the most recent kernel package or not; things should still work fine. I just compiled 2.2.18 using make-kpkg and, when I installed it, it overwrote the old kernel (I would've prefered it to install it alongside the old one and have an extra entry in my grub menu). Is there a way to get dpkg to do this? (I'm very new to debian). I used dpkg -i package to install it.
Howto change default keymap
Hi, how do I change the default keymap. I want my system to keep the setting if reboot. install-keymap dvorak seems to me not enough. Thanks --Marcus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antbear.org
Re: I want to StartX Manually
on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 06:47:30AM -0500, Holp, John Mr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Karsten M. Self [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:25 PM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: I want to StartX Manually > > > > on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:15:51PM -0700, Dan Reinhardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > To Whom It May Concern, > > > > > > > > > I want to start the XServer Manually and not on boot. How do I do > > > this. I have looked in the lilo.conf, xfree86.cong, and the > > > inetd.cong thinking it was in there, but couldnt find anything. Where > > > is it loacted? > > > > Read: > > > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/xdm-disable.html > > > > Cheers. > > > > Karsten, > > Look in /etc/inittab for the line that reads; > > id:5:initdefault > > Change the 5 to a 2 -- then reboot your system. It will come up > non windows. Then manually type startx and it should come up in windows. > > John First, that's X or the X window system. Legacy MS Windows is something else. Look yourself. This is Debian, not Red Hat. - Initdefault _is_ 2. - [xwgk]dm starts at runlevels 2, 3, 4, and 5. See /etc/inittab, /etc/rc?.d/*dm. And /etc/init.d/README, and references therein. Reply to list, not me. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgp9JzWKiuNTB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.2.19 and module problems
I think I got it fixed. running the command depmod -a seems to have created the necessary file in the new modules folder. While things seem to be somewhat back to normal, I do get the following after running the command. depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/ibmtr.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/lanstreamer.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/olympic.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/sktr.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/ne2.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/smc-mca.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/at1700.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/3c523.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/sk_mca.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/3c527.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/3c509.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/depca.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/ltpc.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/net/cops.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/misc/ipx.o --- Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:22:32AM -0700, eric > wrote: > ... > > I copy and paste your install command > > > > lshih:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-blah > > Reading Package Lists... Done > > Building Dependency Tree... Done > > E: Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.2.19-blah > > > > but not work > > That's because there is no such thing as > kernel-image-2.2.19-blah:) > He just used blah as a shorthand to save him the > time to lookup the > exact name of that package. > > This is the second thread you hijacked, first you > needed a 2.4 kernel, > now you trying a 2.2.19 kernel. So you obviously > need a new kernel:) > > Please tell us more so we can help you better. Like > what is it that > you need in the new kernel, usb support or iptables > or what? > > Then tell us what version of Debian you are running: > stable (=potato), > testing (=woody) or even unstable (=sid). > > Then tell us the exact command sequence you tried > and the full error > messages you got. > > -- > groetjes, carel > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: kernel question
"JACKSON, DEAN" wrote: > > Help my hard drive has sustained very large physical damage. it boots sort > of. as I use a multi processor system I would like to keep my kernel (it was > a pain to configure) > what is the best way of backing up my kernel? and restoring it! > > Dean Jackson > TeleWare > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Telephone 01908 251474 > <> > Hi Dean, generate your kernel as a debian package (make-kpkg or kernellab). Then you can save and install the kernel with dpkg. Greetings Albrecht
