mh-rmail in emacs falls over at 10k messages.
Greetings, I was starting to enjoy using mh-rmail mode in emacs. It suddenly stopped displaying messages, even though it would read them, at message (or there abouts). The Debian connection? This took about 5 months of debian-user, debian-laptop and kernel-dev. I copied ~/Mail/inbox to ~/Mail/inbox0 and everything started working again. 'nmh' from the command line, seems to be able to cope with this. Paul Schulz -- Paul Schulz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Foursticks Systems Pty Ltd, http://www.foursticks.com.au 2/259 Glen Osmond Road, FREWVILLE South Australia 5063 Phone +61 8 8338 5500, Fax +61 8 8338 5511, Mob +61 401 981 301
Re: cdrecord problems
Benjamin Pharr wrote: > It works, for you, but I gave it a shot with no luck. You mean you tried hdd=scsi? > What modules do you > have loaded at boot time? None. Everything's compiled into the kernel.
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
Monte Milanuk wrote: > > > Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. I would say, use an external card, rather than trying to get an onboard Crystal CS4236B chip to work. I've never seen a report from someone who's managed to get one working. I have the identical setup you have, and I've given up after about three months of trying just about everything. Now I'm out looking for some SB64-like card that is in the ALSA list as "definitely supported", and get those fingers firmly crossed. > Ugh, this is almost like work!! Yes, except at work you can get paid for beating your head against a wall... -- Best regards, Peter Hugosson-Miller "Faber est suae quisque fortunae."
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: > "Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > > # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) > > > # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. > > > # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 > > > # ANSI string -->CS4236B<-- > > > >This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. > >I think I have more/less the same thing... > > > > Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My > bad. > > > Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, > it's been one of those weeks :( Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was thinking of "Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x)". It came up in my head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). > Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod > cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you > gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is > it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' > -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick > this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). > says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in > xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, > isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse like in WSS mode). > Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still > uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: > > ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 > Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o > > I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my > computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB > compatibility, something. Nada. > > > > Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like > work!! Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have your BIOS set to "PNP OS"? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you 'bout all I could think of. -- Eric G. Miller
apt-get trouble
Hello, just wondering if anyone can help me with this problem I've been having and can't figure out: when I do an apt-get update I get errors from several different servers, randomly, it seems, here is the stderr from the `apt-get update' command (last time I tried it): Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/main/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/contrib/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/non-free/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. And here is my sources.list: # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-3 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian potato non-free deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main Sorry if the mail is a little bit bulky, I am using a thoroughly updated potato (that sounded odd :) TIA jorge santos
Re: AAARGH - Re: cdrecord
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:37:54 +1100, John Griffiths writes: >I've been reading this with a lot of interest as i'm a bout to receive a nice >new AOpen ATAPI CD-RW. > >there seems to be conflicting info going around. Can SCSI emulation be done wi >th modules or does it require a re-compile? Well, at least with my stock 2.0.38 (or was it .36, I don´t know) kernel it required compiling a custom kernel. I can´t look at a 2.2 stock kernel, ´cause I run a custom 2.0.38 here and custom 2.2´s on my other machines... That´s why I wrote: --- Don´t take my opinions in any form offensive, they´re not meant that way, but please don´t flame me if that´s all not longer true (I set it up with a 2.0.x-kernel and a then-recent cdrecord, so there may have been changes since). --- YMMV, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
QT2.x and woody?
>From what I've seen on teh web page, Qt2.2 is only avaiable in the unstable/Sid version of Debian at the moment? Or is there a way to get QT2.2 library stuff working in woody? Thanks:) Jon = "God, Root. What is the difference?" Pitr, User Friendly __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: cdrecord problems
Mike wrote:
> SCSI emulation support
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI
> This will provide SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices,
> and will allow you to use a SCSI device driver instead of a native
> ATAPI driver.
>
> This is useful if you have an ATAPI device for which no native
> driver has been written (for example, an ATAPI PD-CD or CDR drive);
> you can then use this emulation together with an appropriate SCSI
> device driver. In order to do this, say Y here and to "SCSI support"
> and "SCSI generic support", below. You must then provide the kernel
> command line "hdx=scsi" (try "man bootparam" or see the
> documentation of your boot loader (lilo or loadlin) about how to
> pass options to the kernel at boot time) for devices if you want the
> native EIDE sub-drivers to skip over the native support, so that
> this SCSI emulation can be used instead. This is required for use of
> CD-RW's.
>
> Note that this option does NOT allow you to attach SCSI devices to a
> box that doesn't have a SCSI host adapter installed.
>
> If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled
> into the kernel, the native support will be used.
>
> Part way through is what you sent, at the end is what I sent. To me this
> particular passage is self-contradictory. At one point it says you can, and
> then goes on to say that you can't. Which portion am I to believe?
I read this to mean that by default the native support will be used if
both are compiled into the kernel, and you can change the default by
using hdx=scsi.
> Then there's the matter of whether it's hdx=scsi or hdx=ide-scsi One source
> says one thing, another says another thing. What's more confusing is they
> *both* *work*. You got your's right from the kernel docs - an authoratative
> source, to be sure. I got mine from the CD-Writing HOWTO - not an
> authoritative source, but it does work.
drivers/ide/ide.c:
[...]
/*
* Look for drive options: "hdx="
*/
if (s[0] == 'h' && s[1] == 'd' && s[2] >= 'a' && s[2] <= max_drive) {
const char *hd_words[] = {"none", "noprobe", "nowerr", "cdrom",
"serialize", "autotune", "noautotune",
"slow", "swapdata", "bswap", "flash",
"remap", "noremap", "scsi", NULL};
unit = s[2] - 'a';
hw = unit / MAX_DRIVES;
unit = unit % MAX_DRIVES;
hwif = &ide_hwifs[hw];
drive = &hwif->drives[unit];
-> if (strncmp(s + 4, "ide-", 4) == 0) {
-> strncpy(drive->driver_req, s + 4, 9);
-> goto done;
}
[...]
OK, apparently you can prepend any ide driver option with "ide-" and
it will still work, so I guess we're both right (but my choice is
clearly the preferred one :-).
brian
Re: cdrecord problems
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:11:12 EST, Mike writes: >Yes, I did indeed have conflicts between the IDE CDROM support and the SCSI >emulation. Took me quite some time to get it sorted out. Ah, here we go.= >=20 >Found it. From the help blurb in the SCSI emulation section of make >menuconfig: > >If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled into the >kernel, the native support will be used. > >So, take out the built-in IDE CDROM support and all will be well. Which, of course, also means that you have to have a "hdX=ide-scsi" for each and every IDE-cdrom, because without IDE-cdrom-support you would otherwise not be able to use it (I´ve shoot myself in the foot with this once ;) )... >> Here's his problem: >> >> > > 2. Added append="hdd=3Dide-scsi" to my /etc/lilo.conf >> >> Should just be "hdd=scsi". Search for "=scsi" in >> linux/Documentation/Configure.help for more info. I found an old working lilo-config in a backup, where it reads append="ether=5,0x360,eth1 hda=49585,16,63 hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi" hth, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
Re: QT2.x and woody?
Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps then apt-get update; apt-get install libqt2.2 If you plan on compiling any qt2.2 apps, also apt-get install libqt2.2-dev -Rob On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:57:49PM -0800, Jon Hughes wrote: > >From what I've seen on teh web page, Qt2.2 is only > avaiable in the unstable/Sid version of Debian at the > moment? Or is there a way to get QT2.2 library stuff > working in woody? > > Thanks:) > Jon > > > = > "God, Root. What is the difference?" > Pitr, User Friendly > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QT2.x and woody?
Sorry, make that deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:36:16AM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: > Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: > > deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps > > then > > apt-get update; apt-get install libqt2.2 > > If you plan on compiling any qt2.2 apps, also apt-get install > libqt2.2-dev > > -Rob > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:57:49PM -0800, Jon Hughes wrote: > > >From what I've seen on teh web page, Qt2.2 is only > > avaiable in the unstable/Sid version of Debian at the > > moment? Or is there a way to get QT2.2 library stuff > > working in woody? > > > > Thanks:) > > Jon > > > > > > = > > "God, Root. What is the difference?" > > Pitr, User Friendly > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mh-rmail in emacs falls over at 10k messages.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:27:59 +1030, Paul Schulz writes: >I was starting to enjoy using mh-rmail mode in emacs. It suddenly >stopped displaying messages, even though it would read them, at >message (or there abouts). 10k messages seems to shoot every mh-client I ever tried/used/set up. Somewhere in the exmh-docs it´s also mentioned. So my pragmatic attitude told me that >10k msgs/folder isn´t a good thing anyway because it slows down searching et al and if I want to search everything I just use glimpse over all the folders anyway. >The Debian connection? s/The/A/ ;) I don´t think so, it´s a problem with other distro´s and self-built systems, too. cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
Re: Can't "talk" to user on same machine
Kent West wrote: > "tcpdump" doesn't seem to be an available command (yes, as root); nor > does "locate" return anything for it. Does this indicate that I'm > perhaps missing a package? It's not "missing", it's just not installed by default apparently. Run apt-get install tcpdump. > >> My "/etc/hosts.deny" looks like: > >> ALL: PARANOID > >> ALL: 150.252.128.10 : DENY > >> ALL: 150.252.219.10 : DENY > >> ALL: 150.252.219.10 : DENY > >> ALL: 4.16.229.105 : DENY > >> ALL: 150.252.128.10 : DENY > >> ALL: 150.252.219.10 : DENY > >> ALL: 150.252.128.10 : DENY > >> ALL: 4.16.229.149 : DENY > > > > This is not correct. Did you try fixing hosts.deny?
Re: NIC identification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > OK i've got a NIC that i need to get working. > > its PCI appears to support Co-ax as well as cat-45 > > it has a netware approved sticker on it > > it has 3 components on it made by Delta > > the most comprehensible component proclaims itself to be > > Delta LANF7236 9701F > > has anyone got any ideas what driver i should use? > > it has worked with slackware (which does auto-detect) but the HD it was > working with has gone to heaven. > > thanks for any help that can be proferred If it's a PCI nic just pop it into a computer with a PCI bus and see what you get. On Linux you should find this ethernet card listed under /proc/pci someplace. You can also try to do "modprobe ne2k-pci" as root - it sounds awfully similar to a NE2000 PCI card I have here someplace. - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC GPG key id: 50DE1CFC GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ZT9b/ZTSZFDeHPwRAjnnAKDb7KxH51ZEKviopEYjQh/fz+RQTwCg0SBW u1q/+zKhCWvv1Re7/cz78Nc= =XLXn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Q: SB16 ok-Need load other modules?
Hi, I have my SB16 working fine with the following modules compiled and loaded: sound uart401 sb io=0x220 irq=10 dma=1 dma16=5 Everything works. But I didn't find the other card options when compiling to, I believe, load the following modules: mpu_io=0x330 op13 io=0x388 So the question is, have I in fact missed some settings in my kernel (if so, which) compiling and are there further modules and uses of the card and are they those just above? Thanks. Jonathan
Q: Use of XDM.log correct?
Hi, My DEbian system when first loaded dropped me in XDM. I removed the package and have booted to the proimpt and started X manually ever since. Yet I've notice that when X starts it writes the info to an XDM.log file. Is that normal? What would be considering I use .xinitrc and "startx"? How would I change to that? Thnaks. Jonathan
modules
over the last few days i've been wrestling with a lot of cryptic modules. and so it would seem have others, judging by the list. how difficult would it be to make an apt-like module tool?
Re: Console Blanking
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:58:55PM -0600, ktb wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 07:40:03PM -0700, Curtis Hogg wrote: > > Is there a way to disable the console blanking? If so, how do you go > > about doing that? > > It looks like "xset s noblank" Type "xset" at the command line and it > will spit out options. I have also seen "xset s 0" on the list. You > can also take a look at the man page for further details. A good place > to search for answers is - > http://lists.debian.org/search.html looks like xset is a 'user preference utility for X' where curtis was asking about changing CONSOLE settings (console, from what i can tell, meaning alt-ctl-F[1-6]). how do you establish screen-blanking preferences for text consoles, when there's NO x installed at all? -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
Re: Console Blanking
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, will trillich wrote: > how do you establish screen-blanking preferences for text consoles, > when there's NO x installed at all? setterm is what you need. setterm -blank (and setterm -powersave) allow you to control this.
Re: modules
Hi, is that not something like depmod does, but then better? You have my support! Greetz, Sebastiaan On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: > over the last few days i've been wrestling with a lot of cryptic modules. and > so it would seem have others, judging by the list. > > how difficult would it be to make an apt-like module tool? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Firewalls and IP Maskerade
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:41:43PM -0500, seg wrote: > Hi, > > Both my network cards were detected and both seem to be > working right. One of them has a local network address which > I assigned my self with the following command: ifconfig eth0 > 192.168.0.1. The other was configured as a cable modem upon > installation. When I boot it is assigned the address > 24.200.41.15 and the netmask 255.255.255.0. from what i can tell (and based on my setup) you need the address of the cablemodem... if your ip is static, the the cablemodem's probably is, too. if not, you're probably in need of dhcp expertice, which i don't have. :) > My routing tables consists of the following entries (all > automaticaly configured, I haven't entered any): > > 192.168.0.0*255.255.255.0u000eth0 > 24.200.41.0*255.255.255.0u000eth1 > defaultmodemcable001.40.0.0.0ug000eth1 > > > My hosts file /etc has the following entries. I added the last 3 entries. > > 127.0.0.1Lisalocalhost > 192.168.0.2 Marge > 192.168.0.3 Homer > 24.200.41.15LIsa presuming you're using a healthily-updated potato, (debian 2.2) your /etc/network/interfaces should resemble iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 iface eth1 inet static address 24.200.41.15 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 208.33.90.0 broadcast 24.200.41.255 gateway 24.200.41.cableModemIPnumber then configure all your other networked boxes to be 192.168.0.<2,3,4...> and have a default/ gateway/router of 192.168.0.1 (being your linux). > From my linux box, I can ping addresses on the 192.168.0.0 > and 24.200.41.0 networks and I can ping the DNS server > (24.200.243.242). I can't ping modemcable001.4 From my > win98SE comps I can only ping addresses in the 192.168.0.0 > network. If I want to ping addresses in the 24.200.41.0 or > the DNS server, I need to enter the following commands: > ipchains -P forward ACCEPT and ipcahins -A forward -s > 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0/0 -j MASQ. Also before I can enter > these commands I need to enable ip_forward: echo 1 > > ip_forward. . aha! apt-get install ipmasq boy will THAT save you some trouble! > I cannot access the internet from any on my win98SE comps. > And I haven't installed any applications on my linux box, so > I can try accessing any http sites from the this comp. The > proxy settings are detected but the pages will not load. > What has to be done to fix the situation and to allow games > and email progs to go through? make sure your linux can get to the web; try something like lynx http://www.rootprompt.org once your 'ipmasq' package is installed and your ipchains (or ipfwadm for slink users) rules are in place, then any connect success you have on the linux box ought to be reproducible on the windo~1 boxes. theoretically. -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
Re: static vs modules
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there is a speed/operating difference when compiling > kernel daemons like knfs static in the kernel or in modules. > Anyone know something about this? I think there is no measurable (is this spelled right?) difference. (That's what I think, I haven't tested it) Modules are more flexible. For example if you get a new soundcard you only have to insert the new module, you don't need to recompile the whole kernel. -- Thomas Guettler Office: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.interface-business.de Private:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://yi.org/guettli
DHCP and NFS instalation
Hi, how to install Debian via NFS when local host is dynamicaly assigned IP address using DHCP/BOOTTP protocol? Marcin Grzesiak
Re: Is there any way to prevent a package from upgrading?
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:07:39PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote: > * On 16-01-01 at 07:28 kmself@ix.netcom.com (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > > See the Debian FAQ. > > > >$ echo " hold" | dpgk --set-selections > > > > Cheers. > Is there a way to do this with apt-get (I do apt-get -u > upgrade, but don't want to upgrade a specific package(s))? my understanding is (watch me get corrected) that APT is a nice interface to the DPKG concept, or that APT evolved out of DPKG and that they each depend on the same settings and so forth. you tell APT smoething, DPKG knows it. and vice versa. [ i think. ] -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ your experience could help save next week's newbies! http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
RE: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
can't you just upgrade to the 2.4.0 kernel wich will probably have support built in for this card ... ? -Original Message- From: Eric G . Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:21 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Aaaarrrhhh On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: > "Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > > # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) > > > # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. > > > # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 > > > # ANSI string -->CS4236B<-- > > > >This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. > >I think I have more/less the same thing... > > > > Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My > bad. > > > Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, > it's been one of those weeks :( Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was thinking of "Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x)". It came up in my head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). > Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod > cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you > gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is > it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' > -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick > this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). > says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in > xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, > isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse like in WSS mode). > Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still > uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: > > ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 > Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o > > I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my > computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB > compatibility, something. Nada. > > > > Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like > work!! Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have your BIOS set to "PNP OS"? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you 'bout all I could think of. -- Eric G. Miller -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: static vs modules
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if there is a speed/operating difference when compiling > > kernel daemons like knfs static in the kernel or in modules. > > Anyone know something about this? > > I think there is no measurable (is this spelled right?) > difference. (That's what I think, I haven't tested it) > > Modules are more flexible. For example if you get a new soundcard you > only have to insert the new module, you don't need to recompile the > whole kernel. I expect there is a few picaseconds latency when the module is first loaded :) Other than that I should think not. Cliff
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
Hi Matthew,
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:59:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have recently managed to set up Postfix, and get it to feed to the
> Cyrus IMAP server. At the moment I'm using TkRat, but am finding it a
> little restrictive.
This isn't an MUA solution, but rather a whole mail system, but it
works well for me.
maildrop is a procmail-like MDA which is packaged for debian, and is
very stable and easy to use. IMHO, its syntax is a lot easier to
understand than procmail - it uses pretty bog-standard conditionals,
curley braces, and posix regexs.
If postfix supports .forward files, you'll need something like
| maildrop -d $USER
in your .forward file (off the top of my head, could be wrong).
Next get courier-imap, which may be available for debian, but if it
isn't it's very easy to compile by hand (configure; make; make
install). It's available at www.courier-mta.com.
Courier uses maildir directories (which are supported by maildrop,
which is by the same author as courier-imap), so you just need to tell
maildrop to, say, deliver debian-user into ./Maildir/.debian-user,
which then becomes available as an imap folder.
You can then read your imap mail with mutt, which now has good support
for imap and imap browsing (hint: try "spool = {localhost}INBOX" in
your .muttrc). The IMAP client in netscape also works well with this
combination.
If you want to get really fancy, on the courier site you can also find
sqwebmail, which is a hotmail like webmail interface, which works with
the same maildirs as courier-imap. It also has a nice web interface for
writing sorting rules, so you don't have to edit your .mailfilter file
by hand to add new sorting rules.
I use effectively this combination myself, and it works really well.
> Could anyone reccomment a good MUA with good support for IMAP and
> filtering of incomming mail. I'm assuming one can't use procmail to
> filter mail as it won't work in a IMAPd (I think!), so which MUAs are
> there out there that both support IMAP and filtering?
>
> I am interested in functionality rather than a pretty GUI, and am more
> than happy with a console app if it does everything I need it to.
In this case, you can't go past mutt. Nothing with a pretty gui (even
for windows) comes near it for functionality and spead. It has somewhat
of a steep learning curve, but it's worth it.
cheers,
damon
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Re: Making System Back-Ups
on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:26:48AM +0100, wrote: > (private reply) Respondee redacted, response to list. > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:51:36 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: > >http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html > > I´d slightly extend your script and think that that may be good to > include, for people not very familiar with the tools used: > > - > backupdirs="/bin /boot /etc /initrd /lib /opt /root /sbin /usr /var" ^^^ ^ See the referenced document as to why it may be unnecessary (and perhaps unwise) to archive system directories which can readily be restored from installation media or via apt-get. > excludirs="/var/cache/apt/ /var/log/ /var/tmp/ /var/run/ \ >/home/waldner/pics" > cat /dev/null >/tmp/backup.exclude > > # build list of files to exclude > > for path in $excludirs > do > echo "Building list of files to exclude for " -n > find $path 1>>/tmp/backup.exclude || exit 1 > echo "done." > sleep 2 > done > > echo "Exclude-List built." > echo " " > > for path in $backupdirs > do > echo "System backup on $path " -n > tar -X /tmp/backup.exclude cIvf /dev/nst0 $path \ >1>>/tmp/backup.log || exit 1 > echo "done." > sleep 2 > done > - Yes, you can use find for backups. I find (pun noted) my own mechanisms sufficient. 'find' may produce problems with filenames containing embedded blanks, haven't checked this myself. You may wish to investigate. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpzba8W9TJzf.pgp Description: PGP signature
MUA Blues in X
i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and so on. I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like really good but darn i want point-n-click. Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found Cronos, same story as Evolution Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla ? that crashes as often as it does ? and so on and on and on tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) Suggestion PLEASE.J.L.
Re: MUA Blues in X
> i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and > so on. > I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and > can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. > Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like > really good but darn i want point-n-click. > > > Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. > Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. > Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found > Cronos, same story as Evolution > Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla > ? that crashes as often as it does ? > > and so on and on and on > > tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. > > Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook > express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) > Mmm. Well all mua's are awful, just have to live with 'em ! I have never seen anything like quite like outlook... I use KDE2, which has some bizarre behaviour (I don;t know if it is a feature or a bug but when you trawl down a list of message headers and delete them as you go it redraws the header list in an extremely odd way - it drives me nuts), but is liveable with apart from that. I find it hard to imagine what feature you require that Mutt does not have, except point and click of course... I deal with mail as follows. I use mutt to very quickly review/delete/answer mail. Mail that I want to keep or think about I leave in the spool. Later in X I use KDE2 to file mail etc... This is nicer in practise than it sounds in it's description..lol. With mutt I can deal with 90% or more of the mail very quickly. Probably doesnt help your quest, just passing it on .. Cliff
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
> "Damon" == Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Damon> I use effectively this combination myself, and it works Damon> really well. My only dislike of the above is courier-imap. It insists that all folders appear below "INBOX" (eg. "INBOX.trash") which in turn looks messy and prevents using a hierarchy for your own folders. ie. A commonly known commercial mail program for a non-Debian non-Linux OS would display: imap |- INBOX |- trash |- sent_mail |- sent_mail_1998 |- sent_mail_1999 |- sent_mail_1999_January which is totally broken IMHO, as what I want is: imap |- INBOX |- trash |- sent_mail |- 1998 |- 1999 |- January (this one might be tricky, as nested folders to this depth are not supported by the Maildir++ standard[1]). as none of the folders have anything to do with "INBOX", but Courier-imap does not support this. The author was written something and claims that this behaviour is not broken[2], but instead blames the client. I remain unconvinced. I do not believe he answers the question in the FAQ (change the question from "Why can't I create any top-level folders, only subfolders of INBOX?" to "Why do all folder names need to be prefixed with 'INBOX.'?" and the answer might make more sense). In short all folders have to be sub folders of "INBOX" because that is what courier-imap uses to indicate private (non-shared) mail, and no solution to this problem is given. Note: [1] http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/README.maildirquota.html>, and search for "Mission statement". [2] http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/FAQ.html#namespace> -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: find???
Stephen Brooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can anyone give any hints as to why find is running and what might be > starting it? It is probably run from the daily updatedb or checksecurity cron scripts. "ps fax" should show which. You can of course disable those scripts but then you lose some features. I run them via "nice" so they don't slow down the system so much (I hope).
RE: MUA Blues in X
Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base mua's sooner then i think. Don't wanna go back to Win2K, thought it is tempting. Still, how HARD can it be to write something decent ? That does not require knowledge of compiler's to install and so on. I pray some rogue genius takes it up to him/herself to create a superb MUA for X. That will be the day i'll be smiling again. Okay, maybe a little sooner but this is getting to me, how on earth is linux going to rival with any Desktop-OS if it lacks these basic things. Good Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You would not want to say mozilla/netscape is a breeze to work with would ya ? I've never seen it work without crashing (ie on win2k does to but not as often) Galeon seems like a good option but it a mess to install since Mozilla seems to be too NEW ... boehoe It's a problem with a lot of the X app's i've seen, the menu's slide down instead of popping up. Still, i like X AND Linux big time. J.L. -Original Message- From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:19 AM To: Joris Lambrecht; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Subject: Re: MUA Blues in X > i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and > so on. > I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and > can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. > Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like > really good but darn i want point-n-click. > > > Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. > Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. > Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found > Cronos, same story as Evolution > Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla > ? that crashes as often as it does ? > > and so on and on and on > > tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. > > Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook > express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) > Mmm. Well all mua's are awful, just have to live with 'em ! I have never seen anything like quite like outlook... I use KDE2, which has some bizarre behaviour (I don;t know if it is a feature or a bug but when you trawl down a list of message headers and delete them as you go it redraws the header list in an extremely odd way - it drives me nuts), but is liveable with apart from that. I find it hard to imagine what feature you require that Mutt does not have, except point and click of course... I deal with mail as follows. I use mutt to very quickly review/delete/answer mail. Mail that I want to keep or think about I leave in the spool. Later in X I use KDE2 to file mail etc... This is nicer in practise than it sounds in it's description..lol. With mutt I can deal with 90% or more of the mail very quickly. Probably doesnt help your quest, just passing it on .. Cliff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /proc/partitions "blocks" ?
Each block is 2 sectors, or 1024 bytes (1k) To convert #blocks to MB, just divide it by 1024. Example: 8001 blocks as shown in /proc/partitions would be 7.81 MB. Tom ktb wrote: > > I'm looking at the /proc/partitions file and it lists "block" sizes. > I've been looking on the web, archives, docs on my system and can't find > what the formula is for converting blocks to MBs. Does anyone know how > to do this or where to find the info? > Thanks, > kent > > -- > I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: Making System Back-Ups
(I hereby out myself as , the anonymization being pointless anyway, since Karsten hasn´t checked his References-Headers and they would reveal me anyway ;) ) On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:49:06 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: > >on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:26:48AM +0100, wrote: >> (private reply) > >Respondee redacted, response to list. > >> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:51:36 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: >> >http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html >> >> I=B4d slightly extend your script and think that that may be good to >> include, for people not very familiar with the tools used: >> >> - >> backupdirs="/bin /boot /etc /initrd /lib /opt /root /sbin /usr /var" > ^^^ ^ >See the referenced document as to why it may be unnecessary (and perhaps >unwise) to archive system directories which can readily be restored from >installation media or via apt-get. Yes, it may be not be absolutely necessary, but I for one like _full_ backups, that way I can just boot from diskette and restore all&everything (excluding things not needed anyway to get a running system again) in one step. But this is to everyones own liking, IMHO. >Yes, you can use find for backups. I find (pun noted) my own mechanisms >sufficient. 'find' may produce problems with filenames containing >embedded blanks, haven't checked this myself. You may wish to >investigate. Yup, find has troubles with it. But as I don´t want _any_ files on my system containing spaces, I run a little script which changes them all to underscores anyway before I do any backup. But point taken, this is far from perfection (but so is your method ;) ). But this is one of the points of Open Source: everyone can look at the code, make changes and discuss the pros and cons in public. So we could start a discussion which level of complexitivity and abstraction is appropriate for a FAQ and then, once agreed, work out an appropriate solution... cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
On bug reporting
Hello! I would like to know if there are guidelines for bug reporting: I use debian unstable, and I find bugs, but I don't report most of them for many reasons. I've never discussed these reasons with anyone. Now I would like to. I identified until now three kind of such unreported bugs: - Evident bugs I work mainly offline, so I don't have constant access to bugs.debian.org, and usually can't know when a bug has already been reported. When I find a bug in a package that is likely to already have been reported, I don't do it to avoid the possibility of flooding the bug database with reduntant reports. An example of this is when tar changed behaviour of the 'I' switch, or when a package can't be upgraded due to missing dependancies (like glademm, erlang and wordtrans are now), or when a package keeps redoing the same debconf questions on most updates. I only report these bugs when I see the problem persisting after a week or two. Should I always report it, instead? - Pedantic bugs Sometimes I notice something that should be different, but I don't know if it is to be considered as a bug, and I don't report it. For example, packages like skipstone, or powermanga or lxdoom appear in the Debian menus but not in the Gnome menus (is there a policy for Gnome menus?), or alsa doesn't load oss-emulation modules on demand with kernel 2.4.0+devfs (are packages supposed to correctly cope with devfs?) Should I be on the safe side and risk reporting a non-bug, or should I be on the other safe side and risk non-reporting a bug? - Non-Debian small bugs Sometimes I find small bugs that are clearly to be reported upstream, like wrong i18n translations (many, many, many of them), usability quirks or even usability suggestions, that I don't report upstream because I can't quickly find the address of the right person, and there's not an handy tool like `bug' for them, or there is, but is online, or there is, offline, but I don't know how to launch it, because every program has its own. It would be very handy to file a `whishlist' bug to the Debian BTS, knowing they are eventually reported upstream, but I don't do it to avoid flooding the BTS with non-debian-related items. Could the Debian BTS be used as a proxy service to upstream mantainers (considering that with debian-native packages it already is supposed to collect these kind of reports anyway) or we should wait for the development of a different common bug reporting system for such little issues? I would like to hear your opinion on this behaviours, to get out of Doubt into The Right Way (TM) to report bugs. Bye! Enrico -- GPG public key available on finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin86
That error seems to get just about everyone when compiling a kernel the first time. If you look back in the debian-user archives far enough, you'll find me asking about it. The base system is only meant to get enough of a running system so that you can then go ahead and install the rest. It should be kept that way. Tom Ken Weingold wrote: > > The debian.org site says that bin86 "a complete 8086 assembler and > loader which can make 32-bit code for the 386+ processors (under Linux > it's used only to create the 16-bit bootsector and setup binaries)." > It is not installed in the initial Debian install. Both times I have > done new installs of 2.2r2 and gone to rebuild a new kernel (from the > source from kernel.org) the build has stopped with an error that it > can't find as86. I install the bin86 package and run make again and > it goes fine. Am I missing something else that should be there to > build the kernel or is bin86 really needed? I am wondering which > since if the second, bin86 should be installed with the base system. > > Thanks. > > -Ken > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest >
Re: MUA Blues in X
Joris Lambrecht wrote: > Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base > mua's sooner then i think. Don't wanna go back to Win2K, thought it is > tempting. Still, how HARD can it be to write something decent ? That does > not require knowledge of compiler's to install and so on. I was in ypur position a little while back with a dual boot finally just to use Outlook. But I wanted asingle boot and the great features which come with having an MTA so I bit the bullet and researched what was out there. The general opinion was that Mutt was the best so I installed, no compiling, and grabbed as many of the setup (.muttrc files) I could fine. It took a good couple of days of fiddling around and and lot's of questions, but I got up and running fairly painlessly and haven't regretted it. Once you get used to Mutt it is far superior to Outlook and you can get very fast on it. My two cents worth is put in the time and you won't be sorry. > > Okay, maybe a little sooner but this is getting to me, how on earth is linux > going to rival with any Desktop-OS if it lacks these basic things. Good True. But while desktop systems such as KDE and Gnome are trying to rival Windows functionality, I don't think Linux itself is, nor should it. And there's the rub. > Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You Bowsers is my one complaint :). Ie is still betetr than anything on Linux. But there's a couple projects coming along that look promising so I don't know if that will the case for long. > It's a problem with a lot of the X app's i've seen, the menu's slide down > instead of popping up. ??? > > Still, i like X AND Linux big time. Good. That makes two of us. I think there's a few more on this list... Jonathan
Re: MUA Blues in X
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:55:12 +0100 , Jonathan Gift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Joris Lambrecht wrote: >> Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base >> mua's sooner then i think. [..] >I was in ypur position a little while back with a dual boot finally just >to use Outlook. I'm currently doing just that so that I can still use Pegasus which despite its... oddities... is still better than Outlook. I'm still playing with Mutt but so far I have to say I prefer Peggy, I plan to see whether I can get it running under Wine somehow. >Once you get used to Mutt it is far superior to Outlook Yeah, but then so is piping your mail to the console :-) Actually I /do/ quite like Mutt, I just /prefer/ Pegasus. >and you can get very fast on it. I've always found using the keys faster than a mouse (think about all that time you spend just dragging the mouse pointer from one end of the screen to the other). >> Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You > >Bowsers is my one complaint :). Ie is still betetr than anything on >Linux. One word: Opera. I've only tried it on Win32 so far, but it was the best browser I've used. Keep Mozilla, IE, Lynx, I'll take Opera. At least, I'd take v3, but I didn't like v4 as it started to feel bloated... Hmm, I notice they even do .debs :-) Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
Re: MUA Blues in X
apt-get install sylpheed On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:02:55 +0100 Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and > so on. > I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and > can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. > Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like > really good but darn i want point-n-click. > > > Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. > Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. > Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found > Cronos, same story as Evolution > Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla > ? that crashes as often as it does ? > > and so on and on and on > > tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. > > Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook > express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) > > > Suggestion PLEASE. > > J.L. >
Re: nbd & modem
nbd export only block devices and in my understanding modem (serial line) are char devices. Christophe On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:04:29 Oki DZ wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone ever use nbd (network block device) to remotely "mount" a > modem (which is supposedly to reside on a server)? Does it work on > kernel 2.4.0? > > Thanks in advance, > Oki > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 www.lineo.com
RE: MUA Blues in X
very nice screenshots at the sylpheed page, i hope those kanji (japanese) characters are specific to the language and not to sylpheed :) http://sylpheed.good-day.net/index.cgi.en#screenshot -Original Message- From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:58 AM To: Joris Lambrecht Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MUA Blues in X apt-get install sylpheed On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:02:55 +0100 Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and > so on. > I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and > can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. > Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like > really good but darn i want point-n-click. > > > Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. > Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. > Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found > Cronos, same story as Evolution > Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla > ? that crashes as often as it does ? > > and so on and on and on > > tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. > > Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook > express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) > > > Suggestion PLEASE. > > J.L. >
Re: On bug reporting
Enrico Zini wrote: >I would like to know if there are guidelines for bug reporting: I use >debian unstable, and I find bugs, but I don't report most of them for many >reasons. ... > - Evident bugs > > I work mainly offline, so I don't have constant access to > bugs.debian.org, and usually can't know when a bug has already been > reported. > When I find a bug in a package that is likely to already have been > reported, I don't do it to avoid the possibility of flooding the bug > database with reduntant reports. ... > I only report these bugs when I see the problem persisting after a week > or two. Should I always report it, instead? I suggest you write out a bug-report, at least in outline, and check the BTS when you can to see if it has been reported. If it is not reported, file a bug; if it is, check the bug report to see if you can add any relevant information. > - Pedantic bugs > > Sometimes I notice something that should be different, but I don't know > if it is to be considered as a bug, and I don't report it. ... > Should I be on the safe side and risk reporting a non-bug, or should I > be on the other safe side and risk non-reporting a bug? If you're not sure if something is a bug, you can mail @packages.debian.org; I don't mind receiving such mails, though I don't promise to do more than read them. If you're not sure about the bug, this saves you from leaving your misunderstandings on public record! > - Non-Debian small bugs > > Sometimes I find small bugs that are clearly to be reported upstream, ... > It would be very handy to file a `whishlist' bug to the Debian BTS, > knowing they are eventually reported upstream, but I don't do it to > avoid flooding the BTS with non-debian-related items. Upstream bugs should be checked against the upstream bug list or TODO list or FAQ. If the behaviour is apparently unreported, report it to the Debian BTS; the maintainer should verify your report and pass it on. Some bug reports that I get are actually down to PEBKAC[1] but I don't mind that, because we all have to learn; even if the user has read and misunderstood the documentation, it is useful to know that that piece of documentation can be misunderstood. Upstream bugs are not "non-Debian issues". If the package is in Debian, we have a responsibility to try and make it as good as possible. This includes packages' native defects. === [1] PEBKAC: problem exists between keyboard and chair - Illiad -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be." Revelation 22:12
Re: MUA Blues in X
> > > and so on and on and on > > > > tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. > > > > Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook > > express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) > > > > > > Suggestion PLEASE. I've been using exmh (tcl/tk based) for years on aix and linux. full featured, fast, graphical, stable etc ... look and feel is quite different from sylpheed (better in my opinion) Since they both rely on MH you can easily switch between sylpheed and exmh. D. -- | Dominique Rousset| Tel: +33 (0)5 59 92 31 71| | Imagerie Géophysique UMR 5831| Fax: +33 (0)5 59 92 31 86| | Univ. Pau et des Pays de l'Adour | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | BP 1115 - F-64013 Pau Cedex - France |
Re: Making System Back-Ups
on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:36:48AM +0100, Robert Waldner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > (I hereby out myself as , the anonymization being pointless > anyway, since Karsten hasn´t checked his References-Headers and they > would reveal me anyway ;) ) I managed to reply on-list when meaning to go off-list *twice*, in a row, on another group, in the past day or so. > So we could start a discussion which level of complexitivity and > abstraction is appropriate for a FAQ and then, once agreed, work out an > appropriate solution... Well. I could just post the whole thread from SVLUG we had on this very topic last week. Or, those who can't avoid looking at train wrecks can peek for themselves: http://lists.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2001-January/005534.html Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpC1IyzImJf8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is there any way to prevent a package from upgrading?
on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 02:12:08AM -0600, will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:07:39PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote: > > * On 16-01-01 at 07:28 kmself@ix.netcom.com (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > > > See the Debian FAQ. > > > > > >$ echo " hold" | dpgk --set-selections > > > > > > Cheers. > > Is there a way to do this with apt-get (I do apt-get -u > > upgrade, but don't want to upgrade a specific package(s))? > > my understanding is (watch me get corrected) that > APT is a nice interface to the DPKG concept, or > that APT evolved out of DPKG and that they each > depend on the same settings and so forth. apt is a distribution-level management tool. dpkg is largely aimed at specific packages. dpkg is the older tool. > you tell APT smoething, DPKG knows it. and vice versa. > > [ i think. ] Yes. ...the bit about apt and dpkg. I really don't know if you think or not. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpHMsegAE7Qv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Apache, SSL, proxy, etc.
Hello Debianers, I'm in the situation of being the only lucky person in our company with any knowledge of Linux. My skills aren't too high, though. That's why I would like to do some loud thinking about this case I'm working on, and hopefully I'll get som answers to my questions from anyone with higher skills and more experience than myself. I hope some of you have the patience to read the entire thing - it grew pretty large while i wrote it. He's my case: We run IIS on Win2KServer as application server against Oracle inside our firewall. Now we want to provide to our customers the ability to access reports and such things on that IIS via the Internet. Then there are some problems: Our firewall managers won't let any external http-requests through the firewall. To solve this problem, we're planning to run Apache on an existing Debian-box in our DMZ (We already run Apache, but only as a regular web-server). Will Apache serve as if it was the real server, or will it only do http redirection to the IIS? I guess that the latter is true. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Then I guess I'll have to make the Apache act as a proxy server of some kind. Unfortunately my knowledge on that subject is poor. I've heard about both mod_proxy and Squid. But then the next problem arises: we need secure connections. We're hoping that we can leave the whole SSL-job to the IIS. But then I read that proxy-servers, or at least Squid, doesn't support decryption/encryption, but will only perform tunnelling of SSL-packets, all of which will have the external client's signature. And then I'm back where I started, right? -They will be stopped by the firewall. (Another assumption: Opening the firewall for https-traffic on port 443 is just as dangerous as opening for http-traffic on port 80. Again: correct me if this isn't true.) This probably means that I should turn Apache into a "SSL-and-proxy-animal". I've had a look at Apache-SSL. But some recommend to use Apache and mod_ssl instead. Which one is the best, and which proxy server works best in cooperation with SSL? I appreciate any comments and suggestions on this, since I don't have any skilled discussion partner inhouse. Thanks in advance! Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , since I can't cope with the traffic on this list. -- Best regards, Ola Muan talk2me AS Systems departement Oslo, Norway E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.talk2me.no
Looking for a driver for a sound card
I recently purchased a pci sound card for my system and haven't been able to make it work. I tried a generic Yamaha driver, based on things I read when I did a search, and when I try to insmod sb.o, I get a message saying Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters Since it is a pci device, I don't have the ability to change the IO or IRQ parameters, I don't guess. I'm running Debian 2.2, kernel 2.2.17 configured to my machine. The card is an Xwave 4000, which gives me fits trying to find information about it by searching the web since there is a graphics program for Linux called Xwave too. I got a bunch of bad hits. Can anyone help or point me to a place I might have luck getting an answer? Thanks, Jim.
Re: latest wine config
thanks--that worked like a charm cheers Richard Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote: > * Richard Black ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi all > > > > has anyone had any success with the latest wine version 2001011? When I > > run it I get: > > > > Can't open configuration file /home/rblack/.wine/config > > > > This error remains if I copy my /etc/wine.conf to > > /home/rblack/.wine/config and if I do a fresh install (ie delete and > > reinstall wine) > > > > BTW, I noticed an error in the package script: > > > > --- > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > libwine wine > > 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded. > > > > Need to get 0B/3812kB of archives. After unpacking 10.5MB will be used. > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > > Preconfiguring packages .. > > libwine template parse error: Template parse error near `#!/bin/sh -e', > > in stanza #1 of /var/lib/debconf/config.10361 > > --- > > > > thanks > > > > Richard > > Hi, Richard, > > I just "tried" to install and get wine running for the first time and > though it still doesn't run :-( I got the "config" issue that you seem > to be having, too, figured out. In the wine manual somewhere they > mention "old" and "new" config format. You can get your old wine.conf > converted to the "new" format by copying it to ~/.winerc > After doing that start wine and it will convert the config which you'll > be able to copy to ~/.wine/config > > Alex. > ### > Oleksandr Moskalenko > Department of Agronomy > Purdue University > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ### > "Imagination is more important > than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Black;Richard tel;fax:416-971-4159 tel;home: tel;work:416-217-4350 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Algorithmics Inc adr:;;185 Spadina Avenue;Toronto;Ontario;M5T 2C6;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Financial Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-18400 fn:Richard Black end:vcard
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
"Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: > > "Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > > > # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) > > > > # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. > > > > # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 > > > > # ANSI string -->CS4236B<-- > > > > > >This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. > > >I think I have more/less the same thing... > > > > > > > Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My > > bad. > > > > > > Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, > > it's been one of those weeks :( > > Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was > thinking of "Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x)". It came up in my > head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio > accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). > > > Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod > > cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you > > gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is > > it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' > > -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick > > this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document >No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). > > > says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in > > xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, > > isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those > > PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no > difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse > like in WSS mode). > > > Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still > > uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: > > > > ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 > > Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o > > > > I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my > > computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB > > compatibility, something. Nada. > > > > > > > > Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like > > work!! > > Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE > soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they > do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have > your BIOS set to "PNP OS"? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you > 'bout all I could think of. > Well, I _have_ a Soundblaster AWE64, and a Soundblaster16(dunno if this one works -- I 'inherited' it). I'd tried the AWE64 awhile back, and it seemed like things didn't want to play nicely, even w/ the onboard sound disabled in the BIOS. The main reasons I've been trying to get the onboard sound working is a) the principle of the thing, and b) I've had it working under RH w/ sndconfig (though w/ that damn 'pop'), and flawlessly under SuSE 6.4 w/ the OSS/commercial drivers and SuSE 7.0/Mandrake 7.2 w/ whatever drivers they use. Unfortunately, I never dug around to see 'how', since things just 'worked'. Thanks for all your help, Eric. I really appreciate it. Monte _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: MUA Blues in X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Bowsers is my one complaint :). Ie is still betetr than anything on > >Linux. > > One word: Opera. I would tend to agree. Of them all, and I believe I've tried them all, Opera is light, good looking, and fast. he only problem is the beta and they still charge. Though I hear they(ve got to ads in the Windows version. BTW, I loose my preference's looks settings evry time. Is this just me? ie I pick Motif and next time I start Opera it's back in the default look. Jonathan
Re: NIC identification
often they will pe printed onto th card, or printed onto a sticker that is placed on the card or one of the chips on the card, it will be a in the form: 00:01:02:70:5E:B1 or possbile without the colons, but it will contain that many digits. The first 6 numbers (00:01:02) identify the vendor, and i this case thats 3com (3c905-c-txm) -Casey On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: > At 11:38 PM 1/16/2001 -0600, Casey Webster wrote: > >if its netware approved you might try the ne2k driver, that thing works > >for a lot of cards with that sticker, also if you can figure out the > >card's MAC address (in the form of xx:xx:xx:yy:yy:yy and often on the card > >somewhere) then search google for a MAC address to vendor converter and > >pop on the xx:xx:xx from the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of > >the card and then you can check thier website for the model number and try > >and figure out what driver to use > > > >-Casey > well the things we learn.. > > any ideas what the MAC might look like? where it may be? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: Apache, SSL, proxy, etc.
http://www6.software.ibm.com/dl/websphere/http-p Try this, gives you all you want i guess ... try it, nice and easy interface, i've learned apache the easy way and now understand a lot more about the httpd.conf file than by reading some boring book or other doc. -Original Message- From: Ola Muan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:51 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Apache, SSL, proxy, etc. Hello Debianers, I'm in the situation of being the only lucky person in our company with any knowledge of Linux. My skills aren't too high, though. That's why I would like to do some loud thinking about this case I'm working on, and hopefully I'll get som answers to my questions from anyone with higher skills and more experience than myself. I hope some of you have the patience to read the entire thing - it grew pretty large while i wrote it. He's my case: We run IIS on Win2KServer as application server against Oracle inside our firewall. Now we want to provide to our customers the ability to access reports and such things on that IIS via the Internet. Then there are some problems: Our firewall managers won't let any external http-requests through the firewall. To solve this problem, we're planning to run Apache on an existing Debian-box in our DMZ (We already run Apache, but only as a regular web-server). Will Apache serve as if it was the real server, or will it only do http redirection to the IIS? I guess that the latter is true. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Then I guess I'll have to make the Apache act as a proxy server of some kind. Unfortunately my knowledge on that subject is poor. I've heard about both mod_proxy and Squid. But then the next problem arises: we need secure connections. We're hoping that we can leave the whole SSL-job to the IIS. But then I read that proxy-servers, or at least Squid, doesn't support decryption/encryption, but will only perform tunnelling of SSL-packets, all of which will have the external client's signature. And then I'm back where I started, right? -They will be stopped by the firewall. (Another assumption: Opening the firewall for https-traffic on port 443 is just as dangerous as opening for http-traffic on port 80. Again: correct me if this isn't true.) This probably means that I should turn Apache into a "SSL-and-proxy-animal". I've had a look at Apache-SSL. But some recommend to use Apache and mod_ssl instead. Which one is the best, and which proxy server works best in cooperation with SSL? I appreciate any comments and suggestions on this, since I don't have any skilled discussion partner inhouse. Thanks in advance! Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , since I can't cope with the traffic on this list. -- Best regards, Ola Muan talk2me AS Systems departement Oslo, Norway E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.talk2me.no -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NIC identification
eh, won't it show when typing ifconfig with one or more options ? -Original Message- From: Casey Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:26 PM To: John Griffiths Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: NIC identification often they will pe printed onto th card, or printed onto a sticker that is placed on the card or one of the chips on the card, it will be a in the form: 00:01:02:70:5E:B1 or possbile without the colons, but it will contain that many digits. The first 6 numbers (00:01:02) identify the vendor, and i this case thats 3com (3c905-c-txm) -Casey On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: > At 11:38 PM 1/16/2001 -0600, Casey Webster wrote: > >if its netware approved you might try the ne2k driver, that thing works > >for a lot of cards with that sticker, also if you can figure out the > >card's MAC address (in the form of xx:xx:xx:yy:yy:yy and often on the card > >somewhere) then search google for a MAC address to vendor converter and > >pop on the xx:xx:xx from the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of > >the card and then you can check thier website for the model number and try > >and figure out what driver to use > > > >-Casey > well the things we learn.. > > any ideas what the MAC might look like? where it may be? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
curious: Re: running another X from within X
--- "David B. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first X session's display is :0 . You have > to tell 'startx' to start > a new X session, on a display other that :0. > For instance, > > startx -- :1 > > Would start a second X session, accessible by > CTRL+ALT+F8. You can also > embed an X session in a window; 'man Xnest' for > more info. > Hi all, curious here, is there a practicle reason for doing this? What is the purpose? xucaen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: cdrecord problems
Mike wrote: > Benjamin Pharr wrote: > > I'm still having difficulties getting my cd writer to work. Here is > > what I've done so far: > > > > Recompiled my (2.4.0) kernel with scsi-emulation and scsi > > support. IDE-CDROM support is compiled in statically. > ^^^ > > There's your problem. For the SCSI emulation to work you have to remove > the IDE CDROM support. IIRC I had to *completely* remove the IDE support, > though it might work if you compile it as a module. I figured that with > the SCSI emulation I wouldn't need the IDE syupport, so I left it > completely out. While it's true it's _easier_ to setup if you remove IDE CDROM support from the kernel, it's not strickly necessary. For my PD-CD on /dev/hdd to be detected as ide-scsi using a stock Debian kernel, I have used this in lilo.conf: append="hdd=ide-scsi" and created a file /etc/modutils/pdcd containing: # Leave hdd for ide-scsi module options ide-cd ignore=/dev/hdd # Run update-modules after editing this file. Then I run /sbin/update-modules and the above shows up in /etc/modules.conf and the kernel's IDE driver doesn't grab hdd on bootup. The only simplifying step I'm missing is how to pass the "hdd=ide-scsi" info to the kernel using modules.conf instead of lilo.conf (That way, it wouldn't matter if I used lilo or not). Anyone? > > 1. apt-get install cdrecord > > 2. Added append="hdd=ide-scsi" to my /etc/lilo.conf > > 3. Ran lilo > > 4. Added alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi to /etc/modutils/aliases > > 5. Ran update-modules > > Once you remove the IDE support, these steps should produce working > results. > -- > Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/
Software to use the c6711 DSK for music
Hi i would like to experiment with programming DSp processors for music. I was wondering if there exists sofware in the linux community which could be used to generate music using the Texis Intruments C6711: DESCRIPTION: The C6711 DSK replaces and is a superset of the C6211 DSK. The C6711 is binary code compatible with the C6211. I.E. C, assembly and executable code written for the C6211 will run without modification on the C6711. A new DSP starter kit available from Texas Instruments for US $295, provides system design engineers with an easy-to-use, cost-effective way to take their high-performance TMS320C6000 designs from concept to production. The new TMS320C6711 DSP Starter Kit (DSK) not only provides an introduction to 'C6000 technology, but is also powerful enough to use for fast development of networking, communications, imaging and other applications. Operating at 150 MHz, the 'C6711 delivers an impressive 1200 MIPS and 600 MFLOPs for only U.S. $22* (1K units). The to use an innovative 2-level cache memory configuration, which provides high-performance in a very cost-effective solution.
Re: curious: Re: running another X from within X
> > --- "David B. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The first X session's display is :0 . You have > > to tell 'startx' to start > > a new X session, on a display other that :0. > > For instance, > > > > startx -- :1 > > > > Would start a second X session, accessible by > > CTRL+ALT+F8. You can also > > embed an X session in a window; 'man Xnest' for > > more info. > > But you can do it as a diffrent user ? Cliff
Re: NIC identification
>> somewhere) then search google for a MAC address >> to vendor converter and pop on the xx:xx:xx from >> the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of >>the card and then you can check thier website >> for the model number and >> try and figure out what driver to use > eh, won't it show when typing ifconfig with one or > more options ? Not 'til it's loaded and recognized... the problem originally started because the person doesn't know what card/chipset it is and can't get it loaded. I copied the relevant parts of an early reply above. Regards Hall
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
Monte Milanuk wrote: > "Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: > > > "Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > > > > # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) > > > > > # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. > > > > > # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 > > > > > # ANSI string -->CS4236B<-- > > > > > > > >This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. > > > >I think I have more/less the same thing... > > > > > > > > > > Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, > > > it's been one of those weeks :( > > > > Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was > > thinking of "Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x)". It came up in my > > head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio > > accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). > > > > > Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod > > > cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you > > > gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is > > > it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' > > > -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick > > > this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document > >No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). > > > > > says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in > > > xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, > > > isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those > > > > PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no > > difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse > > like in WSS mode). > > > > > Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still > > > uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > > > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: > > > > > > ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 > > > irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 > > > Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o > > > > > > I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my > > > computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB > > > compatibility, something. Nada. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like > > > work!! > > > > Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE > > soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they > > do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have > > your BIOS set to "PNP OS"? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you > > 'bout all I could think of. > > > > Well, I _have_ a Soundblaster AWE64, and a Soundblaster16(dunno if this > one works -- I 'inherited' it). I'd tried the AWE64 awhile back, and it > seemed like things didn't want to play nicely, even w/ the onboard sound > disabled in the BIOS. The main reasons I've been trying to get the > onboard sound working is a) the principle of the thing, and b) I've had > it working under RH w/ sndconfig (though w/ that damn 'pop'), and > flawlessly under SuSE 6.4 w/ the OSS/commercial drivers and SuSE > 7.0/Mandrake 7.2 w/ whatever drivers they use. Unfortunately, I never > dug around to see 'how', since things just 'worked'. If you still have them, why don't you try to see if those OSS/commercial drivers work together with Debian? I for one would be _very_ interested to know if that works - it would probably be cheaper to buy commercial drivers for the card I have than to buy a new card (what do they charge BTW?). -- Best regards, Peter Hugosson-Miller "Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur."
Re: cdrecord problems
To quote Benjamin Pharr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # I'm still having difficulties getting my cd writer to work. Here is what # I've done so far: # # Recompiled my (2.4.0) kernel with scsi-emulation and scsi # support. IDE-CDROM support is compiled in statically. # # 1. apt-get install cdrecord # 2. Added append="hdd=ide-scsi" to my /etc/lilo.conf # 3. Ran lilo # 4. Added alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi to /etc/modutils/aliases # 5. Ran update-modules # # When I reboot everything seems to load just fine, no errors or anything. I # get the following messages at boot time: # # . . . # ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi # . . . # hdd: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-408B, ATAPI CDROM drive # # When I run "cdrecord -scanbus" I still get no devices. If I comment out # the "append" in lilo.conf hdd is mentioned once more at boot time, so # something is happening, I'm just not sure what. Can anyone help me get # this thing fixed? Thanks in advance! Before people start telling you to not compile-in IDE-CDROM support, to start adding lines to lilo.conf etc., here's what I did; In the appropriate section of lilo.conf, I added: append = "ignore=hdd hdd=ide-scsi" The "ignore=hdd" tells the IDE code to ignore HDD. Trust me, it works. I know you're probably pissed at everyone else telling you to do different things, but please try this. It should work. If it doesn't, *please* let me know. :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: MUA Blues in X
To quote Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) No, you don't - not in my experience. Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the "sweet spot". It has all the features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, HTML, you name it). Check it out. It's GTK+ based, not GNOME-based, so you don't have to install too much. GTK+, of course. :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: MUA Blues in X
> To quote Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook > # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) > > No, you don't - not in my experience. > > Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the "sweet spot". It has all the > features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account > support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, > HTML, you name it). Only problem is it uses MH mail format... :( Cliff
Re: MUA Blues in X
To quote Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # > To quote Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # > # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook # > # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) # > # > No, you don't - not in my experience. # > # > Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the "sweet spot". It has all the # > features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account # > support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, # > HTML, you name it). # # Only problem is it uses MH mail format... :( Depending on why you think that's a problem, it might not be ;) I've long hated mail apps that munge my stuff. If it's in 'mbox' format, leave it alone. :) Anyways, check out the 'nmh' package. It has lots of tools used with MH-format directories. Very useful. Procmail also support MH-format folders too. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
RE: Firewalls and IP Maskerade
Hey, I am able to access the internet from my linux box. I tried a few sites with lynx, and they all connected. My /etc/network/interface file has the following entry when I boot up, which is sufficient to properly configure my cable modem NIC as it seems. iface eth1 inet dhcp That /etc/network/interface file is "execute" on start-up I gather? Could I add an entry for my other NIC? How would I do so if possible? It doesn't seem like I will need to reconfigure the eth1 NIC (since I can access the net). But if I had to and wanted to configure it has a "static ip", how would I go about finding my cable modem ip (24.200.41.cablemodemIPnumber)? Finally, I tried the apt-get command. I got an error saying it could not find the packages or something. Do I have to specify where it should look for it (soruces.lists or something)? Thx for the help -Original Message- From: will trillich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:52 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Firewalls and IP Maskerade On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:41:43PM -0500, seg wrote: > Hi, > > Both my network cards were detected and both seem to be > working right. One of them has a local network address which > I assigned my self with the following command: ifconfig eth0 > 192.168.0.1. The other was configured as a cable modem upon > installation. When I boot it is assigned the address > 24.200.41.15 and the netmask 255.255.255.0. from what i can tell (and based on my setup) you need the address of the cablemodem... if your ip is static, the the cablemodem's probably is, too. if not, you're probably in need of dhcp expertice, which i don't have. :) > My routing tables consists of the following entries (all > automaticaly configured, I haven't entered any): > > 192.168.0.0*255.255.255.0u000eth0 > 24.200.41.0*255.255.255.0u000eth1 > defaultmodemcable001.40.0.0.0ug000eth1 > > > My hosts file /etc has the following entries. I added the last 3 entries. > > 127.0.0.1Lisalocalhost > 192.168.0.2 Marge > 192.168.0.3 Homer > 24.200.41.15LIsa presuming you're using a healthily-updated potato, (debian 2.2) your /etc/network/interfaces should resemble iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 iface eth1 inet static address 24.200.41.15 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 208.33.90.0 broadcast 24.200.41.255 gateway 24.200.41.cableModemIPnumber then configure all your other networked boxes to be 192.168.0.<2,3,4...> and have a default/ gateway/router of 192.168.0.1 (being your linux). > From my linux box, I can ping addresses on the 192.168.0.0 > and 24.200.41.0 networks and I can ping the DNS server > (24.200.243.242). I can't ping modemcable001.4 From my > win98SE comps I can only ping addresses in the 192.168.0.0 > network. If I want to ping addresses in the 24.200.41.0 or > the DNS server, I need to enter the following commands: > ipchains -P forward ACCEPT and ipcahins -A forward -s > 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0/0 -j MASQ. Also before I can enter > these commands I need to enable ip_forward: echo 1 > > ip_forward. . aha! apt-get install ipmasq boy will THAT save you some trouble! > I cannot access the internet from any on my win98SE comps. > And I haven't installed any applications on my linux box, so > I can try accessing any http sites from the this comp. The > proxy settings are detected but the pages will not load. > What has to be done to fix the situation and to allow games > and email progs to go through? make sure your linux can get to the web; try something like lynx http://www.rootprompt.org once your 'ipmasq' package is installed and your ipchains (or ipfwadm for slink users) rules are in place, then any connect success you have on the linux box ought to be reproducible on the windo~1 boxes. theoretically. -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: curious: Re: running another X from within X
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:05:14AM -0800, Xucaen wrote: > is there a practicle reason for doing this? What > is the purpose? I'm not the original requester and I assume that he has a different/better reason but... I normally run X in at least 24 bpp (32 if the video card can do it at my preferred resolution). Some of Loki's games will only run in 16 bpp. I'll occasionally run dual Xen so I can play those games without having to shut down wdm first. -- SGI products are used to create the 'Bugs' that entertain us in theatres and at home. - SGI job posting Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
Re: XFree86 3.3.6 / Linux 2.4.0 / Intel i810
hi bejamin the XFCom_i810 driver will work with your older XFree86-3.3.x setup for linux-2.2.18 on the i810 chipsets ( onboard SVGA ? ) linux-2.4.0 fails to install the required agpgart.o for the server XFCom_i810 ... so no X11 on 2.4.0 ( yet ) - insmod complains about MAP_NR problem... see the X11 itty-bitty setups if you need mroe info http://www.linux-1U.net/MotherBoard/ have fun alvin http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 ... 500Gb each ... On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, [iso-8859-1] Josep Llauradó Selvas wrote: > > I haven't managed this combination of kernel - X, but You'll solve this > problem using the 2.2.18 kernel, 'cos it has support for USB, that's the > reason to move to the new 2.4.0 kernel... > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Benjamin Pharr wrote: > > My new desktop is ?blessed? with an Intel i810 chipset that is not > supported under XFree86 3.3.6. I have found instructions that make it > work > with the 2.2.18 kernel and others that make X 4.0.? work with kernel > 2.4.0. However, I want 3.3.6 with 2.4.0. ( This is due to the fact > that > my attempts at "apt-get"ing XFree86 4.0 from unstable have been > disastrous, > but I need 2.4.0 for USB, etc. ) Has anyone managed this combination > yet? Thanks! > > Ben Pharr > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > Josep Llauradó Selvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Linux Registered User #153481 > KeyFP: D82F 525C DD22 02C9 6909 20D6 F622 F3E8 18CD C548 > The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. > After that, it's all learned. > (in comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.) > _ > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
problems with imapd from potato
i've been having repeated problems with potato imap server (from the imap package). Sometimes, while you are working with your mail folders, the daemon just drops the connection. The relevant line from syslog: Jan 17 10:00:23 moon imapd[20791]: Killed (lost mailbox lock) user=alf host=dns1.localnet [10.101.0.2] i'm accessing the imap mailboxes from pine 4.21 running on a slak 7.2 box. The relevan files on the potato box are: imap4.7c-1 libc-client4.7 4.7c-1 libc6 2.1.3-10 libpam0g0.72-8 i'm using /etc/cram-md5.pwd for authentication. any ideas? TIA Alberto Brealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] sound card recommendations
Hi, I belive that creative's soundblasters are well supported under Linux. The bigger versions (they vary between $200-$800 I belive) have loads of input and output types and they deliver very good sound. Greetz, Sebastiaan On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > I am constructing a machine that will be used as a dedicated MP3 player. > I need a bit of input regarding what sound card to put in it. Pretty > much the only cards I've got experience with are Trident chipset based. > The chipset is well supported in ALSA, but the card is pretty low > quality (only cost $10). > > Whatever card I get should be fully supported by ALSA. I'd like decent > line-in support. I have a pretty big cassette collection and would like > to record the contents to disk before the quality degrades too far. > > It would also be nice to have both amplified and unamplified output. At > the moment the card will be plugged in to a set of "multimedia" speakers > but may in the future be hooked up to a real stereo amp. > > Does anybody here have experience with such a system setup? What's an > appropriate card? > > Thanks. > noah > > -- > ___ > | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ > | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html > >
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
--- Peter Hugosson-Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you still have them, why don't you try to see if those > OSS/commercial drivers > work together with Debian? > > I for one would be _very_ interested to know if that > works - it would probably be > cheaper to buy commercial drivers for the card I have > than to buy a new card > (what do they charge BTW?). > Oh, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't work w/ the current kernel. You see, part of the reason I used SuSE for so long was the _excellent_ sound support. But, on SuSE 6.4, when the kernel was updated ( when the 2.2 kernel had that nasty vulnerability in it a while back), my sound stopped working. Two things: a) SuSE was shipping a slightly dated version of the OSS drivers (something like 3.7.x vs 3.9.x which was current at the time) b) the drivers were compiled for a specific kernel (2.2.13, I think). So when the updated kernel came out from SuSE, guess what. My sound broke. Their (SuSE) answer? Tough. Either stay w/ the old (vulnerable) kernel, or use the newer kernel drivers (like I'm trying to now), or try out ALSA, which didn't work for me at the time, but that may have been entirely due to my own incompetency. I ended up buying the drivers from OSS for the new kernel. I think it costs like $20. You can get free download versions that are limited to a couple hours at a time, i.e. load the module, and two hours later, it auto-unloads, or something like that. That way you can make sure the driver works on your system. I'm just not sure I like the idea of the driver being tied that closely to a specific kernel revision. I could understand a driver for the 2.2.x series not working on a 2.4.x kernel, but one for 2.2.13 not working on 2.2.15 was a bit hard to swallow. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Matrox + XF4 + 2.4
Morning, I have been trying to help my brother set up his new Matrox G450 under debian GNU/Linux. It is their unstable (woody) distro. I have search the web and everyone says it is easy just put this as your configure file..., but it is always the same XF86Config-4 file and it never works. I compiled a fresh 2.4.0 kernel myself. Every time we try another config or anything it Gives the same error "scan out of range" is printed to the monitor. I am hoping that some one here has this setup, or some matrox G400 card. It is hard to debug, when the XFree86 is launched the process consumes 99.9% of cpu and killall -9 X cannot not even stop the process!! We are forced to reboot. We did not try and compile our own XFree86, tried, but that is out of our league. The Matrox website says to compile an XFree86 with their patch, but With X4.0 and K2.4 I would think that it is not required. Any success/failure stories would be helpful `:) james config-k2.4-matrox.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data XF86Config-4-matrox.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: NIC identification
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: > At 11:38 PM 1/16/2001 -0600, Casey Webster wrote: > >if its netware approved you might try the ne2k driver, that thing works > >for a lot of cards with that sticker, also if you can figure out the > >card's MAC address (in the form of xx:xx:xx:yy:yy:yy and often on the card > >somewhere) then search google for a MAC address to vendor converter and > >pop on the xx:xx:xx from the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of > >the card and then you can check thier website for the model number and try > >and figure out what driver to use > > > >-Casey > well the things we learn.. > > any ideas what the MAC might look like? where it may be? It looks like a serie of hexadecimal numbers (xx and yy are he in the example above). It can be found in the card's eeprom(not bootprom), but to get there you should know the cardtype, and that is the problem (I beliove) Greetz, Sebastiaan > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
Oh, hell. I hate it when I have to retract a statement like this. Looks like I was _very_ wrong (big surprise there, huh?) about the OSS drivers. Either I didn't find this page before, or the info wasn't as _blatantly_ obvious as it is now (possibility). But, in any event, here it is: http://www.4front-tech.com/linux-x86.html It discusses how to deal w/ kernel version incompatibilities by enabling mod_versions during kernel config. One curiosity, though, is the section where it talks about the drivers tendency to not like things like the 'ac-xx) patch modifications, in that it looks at the name and only looks for the base kernel release, and doesn't recognize stuff like Alan Cox's patches. Wonder how it does w/ Debians make-kpkg and the naming conventions. May have to leave off the '--revision=custom.x.x) bit. I may d/l and try this tonite. Figure it can't be any worse than what I've gone thru already. Monte = "Here, catch! Don't worry, it won't bite...BBPPP!!!...much " What an unsuspecting mechanic hears as he learns to never, ever, play 'Catch' with a bored electrician ;) Monte Milanuk __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Matrox + XF4 + 2.4
> I have been trying to help my brother set up his new > Matrox G450 under debian GNU/Linux. It is their > unstable (woody) distro. I have search the web and > everyone says it is easy just put this as your configure > file..., but it is always the same XF86Config-4 file and > it never works. I compiled a fresh 2.4.0 kernel myself. > Every time we try another config or anything > it Gives the same error "scan out of range" is printed > to the monitor. I That error message is telling you the problem is with your monitor, *not* the video card. Get the sync and refresh rates for your *exact* monitor, either from the monitor's manual or the manufacturer's website. Run "anXious" (check "anXious --help" for the options to let you manually setup the card/monitor, otherwise it "guesses" for you). Enter the sync and refresh rates by hand. Good luck ! Hall Stevenson
Re: static vs modules
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:17:25AM +, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I was wondering if there is a speed/operating difference when compiling > > > kernel daemons like knfs static in the kernel or in modules. > > > Anyone know something about this? > > > > I think there is no measurable (is this spelled right?) > > difference. (That's what I think, I haven't tested it) > > > > Modules are more flexible. For example if you get a new soundcard you > > only have to insert the new module, you don't need to recompile the > > whole kernel. > > I expect there is a few picaseconds latency when the module is first > loaded :) Other than that I should think not. It depends on what you're talking about. Take, for instance, the Intel EtherExpressPro100 (eepro100) network card. Loading it as a module on a HEAVILY laden web server exposed a major weakness in the overall robustness of the card. The card started dropping packets and causing collisions under only 50% of what the interface would have been capable of if it were built-in to the kernel. -- -=|JP|=-"This space intentionally left blank." Jon Pennington | Debian 2.4 -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Auto Enthusiast/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA| Proud Husband and Father _\_V
Re: DHCP and NFS instalation
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 09:02:02AM +0100, Marcin Grzesiak wrote: > Hi, > how to install Debian via NFS when local host is dynamicaly assigned > IP address using DHCP/BOOTTP protocol? > > Marcin Grzesiak Use the Potato installer, and make sure that when you `Configure Networking' you set it to use DHCP. -- -=|JP|=-"This space intentionally left blank." Jon Pennington | Debian 2.4 -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Auto Enthusiast/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA| Proud Husband and Father _\_V
Re: wvdial connects, but then ppp gets launched and crashes
Well, if wvdial dials, and detects a promt, and sends "ppp", I'm pretty sure that the man has got the permission to dial out... no need to check all these things. In fact, I have no idea how to help here, because I have the same problem :-( So, any other suggestions? joerg Bart van Dommelen schrieb: > > Hi, > > You should check if you are a member of the group dip. If > not, make it so. You could always, as suggested, make a > connection using pppconfig. But watch out, if you can > make a connection using pppconfig you not ready. Check > out the advanced options of pppconfig, there you will find > which user to grant permission for using ppp. > And final, check the permissions of your modem device > (ttySx). You can do so by sending an echo to the device > or using minicom. > > Kind regards, > > Bart van Dommelen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: Making System Back-Ups
hi ya
"is there a better backup solution" was the posters original question..
vs tape backup
-- i think tape backups are too slow, too old and too cumbersome..
( my opinion )
-- i think a backup system should be able to restore a suystem within
1hr of the disk "being erased/or system went down"...
-- backup systems usually fail... due to one or more reasons..
- old tapes -- ( lets ignore all tape issues )
- bad network/flaky network
- out of disk space
- bad setup that root protected files were not backed up
- operator error
- cron died
-- you dont want to be doing backups nightly and not test it/check it...
- dont wait till the real disk actually crashes to find out
-- usually when a incremental backup fails...( say tuesday ). all
subsequent backups are useless ... since all of tuesday's changes will
be missing
-- a better backup strategy...
- backup files from the last full backup...
- make sure you have multiple paths to recreate "said full backup"
have fun
alvin
my itty bitty script that was posted previously
( can also be used to mirror systemA to systemB...
lets assume /Backup is a different disk ( same PC or NFS mounted disk )
in cron... ( crontab -e )
# Daily Incremental..
1 01 * * * /usr/scripts/Backup.pl
# Weekly incremental
# on Sat
1 01 * * 6 /usr/scripts/Backup.pl -inc32
#
# on Sunday
1 02 * * 0 /usr/scripts/Backup.pl -full
# Monthly full too ???
# 01 0 1 * * /usr/scripts/Backup.pl -full -dir stuff ...
where Backup.pl ( quickie psuedo code )
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# quickie...untested itty-bitty backup psudeo code ...we'll ignore bad
code practices here...
#
#
# this can be passed in as a variable if needed...
my ( $DIR ) = "/root /etc /var/log /home/";
#
my ( $Exclude ) = ".netscape/cache";# throw this away
#
#
` mount /Backup ; cd /Backup`; # if not automounting - lock it down...
#
my ( $cnt ) = `cat /Backup/cnt.txt`;
$cnt = "32" if ( $ARGV[0] eq "-inc32" );
#
#
my ( $period ) = "-mtime $cnt";
#
$period = "" if ( $ARGV[0] eq "-full" );
#
#
my ( @date ) = split ( /\s+/, `date` ); # Wed Jan 03 00:55:58 PST 2001
my ( $Mon ) = $date[1];
my ( $Date ) = sprintf "%02d", $date[2];
#
#
#
` mkdir /Backup/$Mon ` if ( ! -d "/Backup/$Mon" );
#
#
# =
# primary line of interest
# =
#
` find $DIR $period -type f -print | egrep -v $Exclude | tar zcvf
/Backup/$Mon/${Date}.${cnt}.tgz -T - `;
#
#
$cnt += 1;
$cnt = 2 if ( $ARGV[0] eq "-full" );# reset incremental counter since
full backup
` echo $cnt > /Backup/cnt.txt `;
#
#
` cd /tmp ; umount /Backup `; # done
#
# end of file
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:26:48AM +0100, wrote:
> > (private reply)
>
> Respondee redacted, response to list.
>
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:51:36 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
> > >http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html
> >
> > I´d slightly extend your script and think that that may be good to
> > include, for people not very familiar with the tools used:
> >
> > -
> > backupdirs="/bin /boot /etc /initrd /lib /opt /root /sbin /usr /var"
> ^^^ ^
> See the referenced document as to why it may be unnecessary (and perhaps
> unwise) to archive system directories which can readily be restored from
> installation media or via apt-get.
>
> > excludirs="/var/cache/apt/ /var/log/ /var/tmp/ /var/run/ \
> >/home/waldner/pics"
> > cat /dev/null >/tmp/backup.exclude
> >
> > # build list of files to exclude
> >
> > for path in $excludirs
> > do
> > echo "Building list of files to exclude for " -n
> > find $path 1>>/tmp/backup.exclude || exit 1
> > echo "done."
> > sleep 2
> > done
> >
> > echo "Exclude-List built."
> > echo " "
> >
> > for path in $backupdirs
> > do
> > echo "System backup on $path " -n
> > tar -X /tmp/backup.exclude cIvf /dev/nst0 $path \
> >1>>/tmp/backup.log || exit 1
> > echo "done."
> > sleep 2
> > done
> > -
>
> Yes, you can use find for backups. I find (pun noted) my own mechanisms
> sufficient. 'find' may produce problems with filenames containing
> embedded blanks, haven't checked this myself. You may wish to
> investigate.
>
> --
> Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
> What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal
> http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org
>
Re: Matrox + XF4 + 2.4
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:11:36AM -0500, James Leigh wrote: > > Any success/failure stories would be helpful `:) > It's not complicated, but you /must/ follow directions. Get the 2.2.18-ide kernel image from /debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.2.18-i386/ on a Debian mirror. The actual package name is kernel-image-2.2.18-ide_2.2.18-1_i386.deb. You need this kernel to make sure it works, because it has special Matrox FB acceleration stuffs built in; I still haven't figured out which ones... Get the mga_drv.o module from Matrox, the latest one possible. It can be found in binary form here: ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/linux/2001/beta_1_00_04/ Use the official XFree86 4.0.2 debs, with this kernel image, and this module. I used XFree86 -configure to generate an XF86Config-4 file, but that needs a bit of hand-trimming as well. If you like, I can send you a copy of my file. HTH. -- -=|JP|=-"This space intentionally left blank." Jon Pennington | Debian 2.4 -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Auto Enthusiast/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA| Proud Husband and Father _\_V
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 07:33:29PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote: [snip] | If postfix supports .forward files, you'll need something like | | | maildrop -d $USER "| maildrop -d $USER" You need the quotes, otherwise the mail disappears. I'm not sure but you may also need 'exec' (probably not, it probably is a bash thing to fork a separate shell to run in): "| exec maildrop -d $USER" | | in your .forward file (off the top of my head, could be wrong). | [snip] | In this case, you can't go past mutt. Nothing with a pretty gui (even | for windows) comes near it for functionality and spead. It has somewhat | of a steep learning curve, but it's worth it. | I agree here, but I didn't find learning mutt to be any trouble. I already knew (the basics of) elm so mutt was a breeze. (I even installed mutt on the NT box I use at work) -D
RE: NIC identification
If you want to find the vendor of any piece of eletrical equipment and you can find the FCC code on it then go to http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/ and type that number in. Works every time Robin -Original Message- From: Sebastiaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 January 2001 16:17 To: John Griffiths Cc: Casey Webster; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: NIC identification On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: > At 11:38 PM 1/16/2001 -0600, Casey Webster wrote: > >if its netware approved you might try the ne2k driver, that thing works > >for a lot of cards with that sticker, also if you can figure out the > >card's MAC address (in the form of xx:xx:xx:yy:yy:yy and often on the card > >somewhere) then search google for a MAC address to vendor converter and > >pop on the xx:xx:xx from the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of > >the card and then you can check thier website for the model number and try > >and figure out what driver to use > > > >-Casey > well the things we learn.. > > any ideas what the MAC might look like? where it may be? It looks like a serie of hexadecimal numbers (xx and yy are he in the example above). It can be found in the card's eeprom(not bootprom), but to get there you should know the cardtype, and that is the problem (I beliove) Greetz, Sebastiaan > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
fetching source/recompiling all my packages
Does anybody have a nice little script that will download the source, recompile and reinstall all my installed packages? Thanks, Andreas
wterm and .Xdefaults
today i upgraded some packages (following stable/unstable) i think a new version of wterm was installed. problem is, it is no longer following my settings for wterm in my .Xdefaults file. any ideas? regards buzz
Re: static vs modules
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:36:18AM -0800, Jon Pennington wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:17:25AM +, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I was wondering if there is a speed/operating difference when compiling > > > > kernel daemons like knfs static in the kernel or in modules. > > > > Anyone know something about this? > > > > > > I think there is no measurable (is this spelled right?) > > > difference. (That's what I think, I haven't tested it) > > > > > > Modules are more flexible. For example if you get a new soundcard you > > > only have to insert the new module, you don't need to recompile the > > > whole kernel. > > > > I expect there is a few picaseconds latency when the module is first > > loaded :) Other than that I should think not. > > It depends on what you're talking about. Take, for instance, the > Intel EtherExpressPro100 (eepro100) network card. Loading it as a > module on a HEAVILY laden web server exposed a major weakness in the > overall robustness of the card. The card started dropping packets and > causing collisions under only 50% of what the interface would have been > capable of if it were built-in to the kernel. why is that (just curious) -- has anybody got an idea? Afaik, the only performance related difference between static and shared object code (once the module is loaded) comes from the requirement of .so-code to be 'relocatable', which means that a few extra machine code instructions need to be generated by the compiler. The performance decrease is normally negligible, according to my experiences far below 10%. So, either the code of that module is somewhat weird, or there is some highly nonlinear interaction between CPU load and network throughput... In that case, I would expect the same drop in performance with the static module version when the load rises just another few percent above the point where the dynamic version gets into problems... any other explanations? I'd appreciate comments -- though I know it's somewhat off-topic... :) Erdmut -- Erdmut Pfeifer science+computing gmbh -- Bugs come in through open windows. Keep Windows shut! --
pine4
Hello! I have potato and try to install pine4. I installed pine4-src and pine4-diffs and than continuing from /usr/src/pine4/README... and when I compiling i get error: cc -O2 -g -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o os.o os.c os.c: In function `fget_pos': os.c:1122: conversion to non-scalar type requested os.c:1123: invalid operands to binary == os.c: In function `fset_pos': os.c:1133: incompatible type for argument 2 of `fseek' make: *** [os.o] Error 1 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pine# Thank You for help! S pozdravem, Michal Kolesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.egarden.cz server of free unix services
jdk-runtime from blackdown.org version 1.3 how to install ?
Hi all, is there a packaged version available somewhere or is there an easy way to install the needed files ? Thanks in advance Greetings Michael
Re: [OT] sound card recommendations
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 05:14:18PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: > Hi, > > I belive that creative's soundblasters are well supported under Linux. The > bigger versions (they vary between $200-$800 I belive) have loads of input > and output types and they deliver very good sound. before bying one of these, though, I'd check that the special features that cause the difference in price, are _really_ supported by the corresponding driver -- I mean, there are varying degrees of 'supportedness'... just my 5 cents :) Erdmut -- Erdmut Pfeifer science+computing gmbh -- Bugs come in through open windows. Keep Windows shut! --
Re: curious: Re: running another X from within X
Xucaen wrote: > > Hi all, curious here, > is there a practicle reason for doing this? What > is the purpose? > > xucaen > I am using win4lin to run mswindows applications (in fact, mswindows itself) from within linux. You can run the mswindows session in a window in X, or you can start a new X session and run the mswindows session full screen within it. There is a script called "win" that does the former, and a script called "fwin" that does the latter. However, in order for "fwin" to work, you have to drop down to a console and run it. I would like to have an icon that will run "fwin" from within X, transporting the user to the new X session. "fwin" uses xinit to initiate the new session and that's what is giving me the following error: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. xinit: unexpected signal 2 > > --- "David B. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The first X session's display is :0 . You have > > to tell 'startx' to start > > a new X session, on a display other that :0. > > For instance, > > > > startx -- :1 > > > > Would start a second X session, accessible by > > CTRL+ALT+F8. You can also > > embed an X session in a window; 'man Xnest' for > > more info. > >
Re: MUA Blues in X
Joris Lambrecht wrote: > i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and > so on. > I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and > can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. > Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like > really good but darn i want point-n-click. > Well i went through a half dozen gui-mua before i found Pronto. It has all the good stuff, filters,threading,etc. You can apt-get it. It has a very good mailing list moderated by the current developer so all your questions get first hand answers.Visit //muhri.net. He is also developing a browser called 'skipstone' But i still prefer Mutt so i don't have to point and click. -- ~~~
Re: static vs modules
--- Jon Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > card. The card started dropping packets and > causing collisions under only 50% of what the > interface would have been capable of if it were > built-in to the kernel. > why? xucaen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Full System Restore with tar: Reminder!
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 02:16, Bob Hilliard wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > At 16 Jan 2001 13:38:25 +0200 , Kalle Olavi Niemitalo > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about system restores... > > > > ...and I'd like to continue the theme. If the worst were to > > happen, what would be the best way of getting the same installed > > packages as before? Is it possible to give dselect (or apt-get if > > you're one of /those/ people ;-) a file with a list of packages > > to install? Ideally you should be able to just generate this from > > within your preferred install mechanism and then you could keep > > it "somewhere safe" and point the re-installation process to it > > and just let it have its wicked way with your Debian CD-ROM (or > > whatever). > > dpkg --get-selections > filename > dpkg --set-selections < filename > > Bob Yes, but where would dpkg fetch those files? Can it fetch it, say, from my local mirror?
Re: Debian GNU/Hurd?
Actually, I think it's just a minor bug in apt-get. I see it too even though I'm not running hurd, it mentions hurd in brackets with the -s option. I've never worried about it, since it provides the need functionality - telling me what packages will be upgraded. On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Colin Watson wrote: > csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From a tip given somewhere on this list, I typed: > > > ># apt-get dist-upgrade -s > > > >And lo and behold came the following output: > [...] > >Inst diff [shellutils on hurd] > [...] > >What does the "shellutils on hurd" mean? > > The shellutils package depends on 'login | hurd', since on the hurd-i386 > architecture the hurd package provides the functionality of the login > package on other architectures. I think apt is just giving you an > informational notice that there's an unsatisfied dependency on hurd, > but, since (a) it can't install that package and (b) it doesn't matter > anyway as login will do, it doesn't do anything about it. > > >Is this the famed Hurd OS making its long overdue entrance? > > Debian has had a hurd-i386 architecture for some years now, although > it's never been released as stable yet. See > http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/>. > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Looking for a driver for a sound card
Jim Lynch wrote: > I recently purchased a pci sound card for my system and haven't been > able to make it work. I tried a generic Yamaha driver, based on things > I read when I did a search, and when I try to > insmod sb.o, I get a message saying > > Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o Device or resource busy > Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including > invalid > IO or IRQ parameters > > Since it is a pci device, I don't have the ability to change the IO or > IRQ parameters, I don't guess. Well first do $cat /proc/pci to see all your pci devices. You might have another device using the same IRQ. If you have an IRQ conflict, you might solve the problem by putting the card in another slot or changing the other device. -- ~~~
Re: pine4
Did you unpack the source with "dpkg-buildpackage" and them build with "debian/rules binary" from the "pine4-4.21" directory? Michal Kolesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Hello! : I have potato and try to install pine4. : I installed pine4-src and pine4-diffs and than : continuing from /usr/src/pine4/README... : and when I compiling i get error: : cc -O2 -g -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o os.o os.c : os.c: In function `fget_pos': : os.c:1122: conversion to non-scalar type requested : os.c:1123: invalid operands to binary == : os.c: In function `fset_pos': : os.c:1133: incompatible type for argument 2 of `fseek' : make: *** [os.o] Error 1 : 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pine# : Thank You for help! : S pozdravem, : Michal Kolesar : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.egarden.cz : server of free unix services : -- : To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 *
Re: Fwd: video card suggestions
The display comes up in the lowest resolution, but the "virtual" size is that of the highest resolution. You can switch resolutions with ctrl-alt- or ctrl-alt-. I typically edit the line to show the highest supported resolution, since I don't find myself using the lower ones. You can also edit the "virtual" line for the server you use in the "Screen" section. As far as the background, that is possibly a function of the number of bits per pixel. Try starting X with 'startx -- -bpp 16' or editing the "Depth" parameter in the "Screen" section. On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:03:38AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have a NVIDIA TNT2 M64 video card and am a first time user of > debian. I am using version 2.2r2. I am having three problems : > > 1. the resolution is pretty bad. I have windows in the first partition of > my computer, > there the windows resolution is much better. But after configuring my > xwindows > the background of the debian icon looks really bad, with a very low > resolution. > can you tell me how to optimize the resolution ? It would help if you could tell what resolution is in use. Try running X with "startx 2>datafile" and after X exits look at what is in 'datafile'. It should tell you what server and resolution has been selected and what other resolutions are available. Knowing this, it should be fairly easy to proceed. > > 2. Initially after configuring my xf86, I had a x window which is four times > larger than > my monitor screen. According to the suggestion of some helpers in this > group, > I changed some of the lines in the xconfig file starting with "mode" in the > SVGA part > of the screen section keeping only 800X600 and deleting the higher modes. > that way the x window now fits exactly in the monitor. This gives a > artificial solution to that problem, but I really don't know why that > happened in the first place. > But still, some other windows are bigger than the screen. for eg, if I open > GMC window, it is of a higer dimension than the monitor and so I have to move > it around > to see the whole of it. Do you know any solution to this problem ? > > 3. Is it possible to change the size of the windows as can be done in MS > windows > with the help of the mouse ? The display comes up in the first resolution listed in the modes line, but the "virtual" size is that of the highest resolution. You can switch resolutions with ctrl-alt- or ctrl-alt-. I typically edit the line to show the highest supported resolution, since I don't find myself using the lower ones. You can also edit the "virtual" line for the server you use in the "Screen" section. -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
Good NIC selection?
Hi, We have a windows network and I'm trying to set up a Linux intranet email-server. Right now, we have in the computer a COMPEX RL2000A-PnP card. Since there are no jumpers or switches, I think that it is probably automatically Plug-N-Play, which may be a problem. But maybe not. If anyone knows which driver and which settings are appropriate, I'd like to know. I am aware that the IO address is supposed to be $200-$2B0, but I've never gotten the card to work on a non-Win95 system. But all is not lost. We do have other cards available. If anyone recognizes a card and remembers some of the settings (and/or jumper settings), I'd like to know that too. Other cards we have include: NE2000-Compatible with Win95 Settings 0, Int 3, IO #300-31F NE2000-Compatible with Win95 Settings "Current Config", int #11, #300-31F 3COM Etherlink XL COMBO 10 MB with all settings "Not Present" REALTEK RTL8029 with no user settings NE2000-Compatible with no user settings IBM Ethernet Adapter (PnP Mode) set to Auto, Not Present, Not Present Anything look possible here? If you see one, I can swap the cards and bypass the problem. - Michael Rudmin
Re: fetching source/recompiling all my packages
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:58:03PM -0500, Andreas Boman wrote: > Does anybody have a nice little script that will download the source, > recompile and reinstall all my installed packages? > apt-get won't work? kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:38:49 +0100 Peter Hugosson-Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Monte Milanuk wrote: > > If you still have them, why don't you try to see if those OSS/commercial > drivers > work together with Debian? > > I for one would be _very_ interested to know if that works - it would > probably be > cheaper to buy commercial drivers for the card I have than to buy a new card > (what do they charge BTW?). I bought a motherboard with the KT133 chipset and AC97 on-board sound. Since I only had an old SoundBlaster ISA card, and I needed to use the one ISA slot on the new board for a SCSI scanner card, I decided to give the AC97 chip a chance. Basically I read what I could on the 'net, and found I was spending so much time looking for the right way to do it, that I decided to go ahead and buy the commercial OSS drivers. I must say, the process was so easy - filled in the info on the web site, received the license file within a couple of minutes and had the whole thing installed inside of 5 minutes. The sound quality is better than my old SounBlaster 16 card too. Excellent! They charge for the basic OSS utility then you pay extra for the module for your particular sound card/chipset. The cost was 15 USD for each, 30 USD total. AS you say, probably cheaper than buying a new card. I recently upgraded to the 2.4 kernel, and was able to download the 2.4-compatible driver from their website at no charge. You can try an unlicensed version of the software which is time limited - a good way to see if it works for you. The OSS web site is http://www.opensound.com/ -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Mutt and viewing attachments simultaneously
When I run Mutt and I receive a mail with 3 attachments, I see something like: [-- Attachment #1 --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.4K --] [blah blah blah] [-- Attachment #2: test-cpp-if-2.patch --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.8K --] [-- text/x-patch is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] [-- Attachment #3 --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.3K --] How can I view all 3 attachments at once on the screen? The above is particularly annoying when replying to a message - I want to quote from the attachments too. I couldn't find anything in the manual apart from auto_view in the muttrc, but that seems to be about converting non-text to text. Here I just want to see all the text attachments at once. Thanks, Neil.
