Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base mua's sooner then i think. Don't wanna go back to Win2K, thought it is tempting. Still, how HARD can it be to write something decent ? That does not require knowledge of compiler's to install and so on.
I pray some rogue genius takes it up to him/herself to create a superb MUA for X. That will be the day i'll be smiling again. Okay, maybe a little sooner but this is getting to me, how on earth is linux going to rival with any Desktop-OS if it lacks these basic things. Good Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You would not want to say mozilla/netscape is a breeze to work with would ya ? I've never seen it work without crashing (ie on win2k does to but not as often) Galeon seems like a good option but it a mess to install since Mozilla seems to be too NEW ... boehoe It's a problem with a lot of the X app's i've seen, the menu's slide down instead of popping up. Still, i like X AND Linux big time. J.L. -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:19 AM To: Joris Lambrecht; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Subject: Re: MUA Blues in X > i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and > so on. > I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and > can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. > Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like > really good but darn i want point-n-click. > > > Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. > Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. > Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found > Cronos, same story as Evolution > Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla > ? that crashes as often as it does ? > > and so on and on and on > > tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. > > Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook > express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) > Mmm. Well all mua's are awful, just have to live with 'em ! I have never seen anything like quite like outlook... I use KDE2, which has some bizarre behaviour (I don;t know if it is a feature or a bug but when you trawl down a list of message headers and delete them as you go it redraws the header list in an extremely odd way - it drives me nuts), but is liveable with apart from that. I find it hard to imagine what feature you require that Mutt does not have, except point and click of course... I deal with mail as follows. I use mutt to very quickly review/delete/answer mail. Mail that I want to keep or think about I leave in the spool. Later in X I use KDE2 to file mail etc... This is nicer in practise than it sounds in it's description..lol. With mutt I can deal with 90% or more of the mail very quickly. Probably doesnt help your quest, just passing it on .. Cliff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]