Spammer by incompetence, RBL may be an option

[Osamu Aoki]

I hate stupid MTA causing this problem.  I like idea to kick out
my.netvigator.com (looks like chinese free e-mail account.  I can not
read chinese) from internet mail system.

I understand debian ML can not do that. It may be best to report this 
domain as spammer to RBL (they are spammer by imcompetence).

I will forward stupid message in response to this message from 

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see what happens.

 ( My ISP uses RBL.)

Osamu Aoki

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 11:06:48AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > except this broken MTA helpfully neglects to mention WHO the user is
> > that has a full mailbox.  so there is no way to know who to
> > unsubscribe.  
> 
> How many subscribers from my.netvigator.com does the list have...
> trash'em all (I don't have the luxury of mail filtering, and it is
> getting really annoying).
> 
> 
> later,
> 
>   Bruce
> 
> 
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time and timezones

[Andreas Palsson]

Hello.

Here's a simple question.
I've not been able to set my systems time correctly.

I've used 'hwclock' and set the hardware clock, and I guess it should be
set to GMT.
But what do I do after that?

If I use 'hwclock --hctosys' the system-time will be the same as GMT and
not Swedish time.
And beside all that, I can't find the command 'tzset' mentioned in the
hwclock-manpage.


/andreas - confused

Do you recomend to upgrade to Woody?

[Rogelio E. Castillo Haro]

Someone there would recommend to use Woody on my Linux-box in home?
I'm using Potato

Regards

Rogelio E. Castillo

About Nestcape 4.75

[Rogelio E. Castillo Haro]

To install netscape 4.75 on Potato, my sources.list must link to stable
o unstable version?

Regards.

Rogelio E. Castillo

Re: time and timezones

[Bruce Sass]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Andreas Palsson wrote:
> Here's a simple question.
> I've not been able to set my systems time correctly.
> 
> I've used 'hwclock' and set the hardware clock, and I guess it should be
> set to GMT.
> But what do I do after that?
> 
> If I use 'hwclock --hctosys' the system-time will be the same as GMT and
> not Swedish time.
> And beside all that, I can't find the command 'tzset' mentioned in the
> hwclock-manpage.

This is how I have done it:
1. "tzconfig" to set the time zone
2. edit /etc/default/rcS to include "UTC=yes"
3. date --set=""
4. "hwclock --utc --systohc" to set the hardware clock to GMT

I usually use the same format spit out by "date" for
.  e.g.,
date --set="Wed Sep 20 00:29:36 MDT 2000"
but there are (lots of) other formats that will work, check the manpage.


later,

Bruce

X

[Charles]

After I did the config. I must have done something wrong.

As I get the error messages that I can't connect to the X Server???

Is there an easy way to back out and reconfig the Server???


On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:12:59 -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:

>Charles wrote:
>> 
>> I have just completed my install of Debian Potato.
>> 
>> I would like to get to the Gui, Gnome, X, or whatever.
>> 
>> I have tried startx, but it does not work
>> 
>> How do I start the GUI
>
>first make sure whatever "GUI" you want is installed, then configure X,
>either by anXious, xf86config, or XF86Setup, after that is done, startx
>should work provided your hardware is supported.
>
>nate
>
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Missing modules - system still silent

[Glyn Millington]

Many thanks for the help thus far - I was clearly mixing two
methods of kernel compilation! Now,   I've compiled the kernel
yet again (8th try I think) and STILL the system can't find the
modules - that is I get lots of "can't find  module" at boot
up time.  
More symptoms...
1. In /lib/modules/2.2.17 there seem to be lots of modules and a
modules.dep file.
2. /etc/modules contains a list of modules
3. On firing up the Gnome sound mixer and the Gnome cd player
(both of which are installed, I get a  message
"No mixers found. Make sure you have sound support configured in
the kernel." (it's sound support I'm after - the one thing
lacking).

It seems that something is not finding the information it needs
at boot time.  Can anyone help me on this?
with thanks once again

Glyn M.


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Re: file ownership

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 09:44:45PM +0100, john gennard wrote:
> > In Potato, I'm installing qt-2.0.1 from a tar.gz. After uncompressing,
> > unpacking and re-naming the directory  'qt', I checked its permissions
> > and found owner and group given as '508'.  On a previous occasion,
> > when compiling some other software (forgotten what), I noticed its
> > owner and group was shown as 'staff'.
> > 
> > I presume this is the work of the software producer and not Debian.
> > Can anyone explain the significance of '508' and say if I can safely
> > change ownership or if some other course of action is desirable.

Owner and group IDs are numeric.  When you do something like `ls -l`
the numeric IDs are converted to the corresponding users and groups
according to /etc/passwd and /etc/group.  Apparently, you don't have
entries for ID 508, so it does not get converted.

> > Grateful for any assistance.
> 
> this happens when you extract tarballs as root (which you should not
> do) most people who create tarballs don't do so under fakeroot so the
> ownership is root.root.

Extract *any* tarball as a normal user.  It will set owner and group
to that of the user extracting it.  Most software will build from a
normal user account.  Installing in system locations will require more
privileges though.

> chown -R root.root qt
> chmod -R u+rwX,go=Rx qt

Hmm, suppose there's a set uid script in qt ...  Well, you gotta be
root to do this anyway, so I guess you already know that you may be
asking for trouble ;-)

> me, when i create tarballs for distribution i always check that
> everything is world readable and not writable by anyone but owner, no
> extranious execute bits set.  then run fakeroot tar -zcvpf foo.tar.gz
> foo 
> 
> this way all the ownership in the tarball is set to root.root as it
> should be.

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Re: Do you recomend to upgrade to Woody?

[Aaron Maxwell]

This kind of question is pretty hard to answer, since it depends very
intimately on your situation, what you use it for, your skill and comfort
level, etc.  Probably the answer is, it isn't a big deal either way. 
Maybe the best thing is to just try it; you can just downgrade back to
potato if the sky falls (not likely, btw). 

I switched from potato to woody on July 31st.  My system just has a ppp
(dialup) net connection; most all I use it for is developing personal
programs (mostly opengl and mysql stuff lately), checking email, and
reading slashdot; occasionally, I play Q3A.  The only problem I noticed
*at all* was that zsh had problems with autocompletion; my weekly 'apt-get
dist-upgrade' fixed that after a few weeks, and now my system seems at
least as stable/bugfree as potato was. 

Has anyone used woody for mission critical stuff?  I know some people run
woody-based web servers, eg, but I haven't. 

Aaron

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:

> Someone there would recommend to use Woody on my Linux-box in home?
> I'm using Potato
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rogelio E. Castillo
> 
> 
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> 

Re: About Nestcape 4.75

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:10:00AM -0500, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:
> To install netscape 4.75 on Potato, my sources.list must link to stable
> o unstable version?

no, just add security to your /etc/apt/sources.list, here are the
lines to add:

## security updates
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib 
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib 
non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib 
non-free

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Re: mail sorting

[Billet Olivier]

I tried procmail and it seems pretty powerfull. It makes it easy to sort
the mails...

Thanks to everyone,
Olivier.

Re: How can I put a package on hold without using Dselect?

[Frederik]

On a related issue:
I've put kernel-image-2.2.17 on hold, because i've build my own
kernel. I'd like to know if it's possible to make sure kernel-image isn't
upgraded from the debian ftp's (my name: kernel-image-2.2.17_maui.1.2,
which seems to be inferior to the version-number on the ftp)
apt-get remove kernel-image-2.2.17 obviously doesn't do the trick...

-- 
Thanks,

Frederik

Configuring KDE- Dial Up PPP

[Jacob Hunter]

When i run Dial Up Networking on KDE a box comes up saying pppd died 
unexpectedly...  I have my connection configured properly to work with my ISP, 
but it still says that... i even tried a different ISP...
anyone have any ideas?
jacob

Re: Internet Cafe

[Andre Berger]

ChrisHellberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Does this really make sense? You would have to put in your floppy
before you log in. What you really need is something like autofs that
(theoretically) umounts drives in customizable intervals. This doesn't
always work in my exerience. Be sure to combine autofs with something
like /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default: 

#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/X11/sessreg -d -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -l $DISPLAY $USER
#custom part:
su $USER -c /usr/local/bin/umnt
slay $USER

and /usr/local/bin/umnt:

#!/bin/sh
cd   # important
for i in $( ls /mnt/ )
do
umount /mnt/$i 2> /dev/null
done
for i in $( ls /amnt/ )
do
umount /amnt/$i 2> /dev/null
done


> Does GDM have PAM support so I can use LDAP authentication or if I'm
> feeling lazy and not security conscious, a mysql table of users?

No idea, sorry.
-- Andre
-- 
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Re: X launchbar?

[kmself]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:24:11PM -0700, Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:13:05PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> However I much prefer a small button bar to constantly typing in things
> like the following.
> 
> rxvt -bg black -fg white -cr cyan -sl 1500 -fn 8x13bold &!

I find it difficult to sympathize.

Suggestions:  X Window Resources, aliases, shell scripts, .profile or
.login scripts.

Under WindowMaker, dock/clip icons can be tied to specific actions.
These might include remote commands via ssh (though you'll have to deal
with authentication).  Other window managers may have similar
functionality.

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Re: Do you recomend to upgrade to Woody?

[Andre Berger]

Aaron Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This kind of question is pretty hard to answer, since it depends very
> intimately on your situation, what you use it for, your skill and comfort
> level, etc.  Probably the answer is, it isn't a big deal either way. 
> Maybe the best thing is to just try it; you can just downgrade back to
> potato if the sky falls (not likely, btw). 

What's the best way to downgrade from woody to potato?

-- Andre

Re: About Nestcape 4.75

[Johann Spies]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:10:00AM -0500, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:
> To install netscape 4.75 on Potato, my sources.list must link to stable
> o unstable version?

deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free

enabled me to upgrade from 4.72 to 4.75.

Johann
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  riches in glory by Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:19

Re: Recommended Partitioning

[kmself]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 03:36:10PM +0200, Julio Merino ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:32:48PM -0400, Rob wrote:
> 
> > Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific
> > partitioning scheme?
> > 
> > Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs.  I figured id just do 128 for /swap,
> > and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other partitions like
> > /boot, /user, and /home.  What do you guys recommend ?
> > 
> > Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d
> > rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've
> > heard something about /mbr which I dont understand.
> > 
> > Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks!
> 
> Some days ago we discussed something like this about me... I have
> bought a 20 GB disk and at last done the partitions as follow:
> 
> Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2   202226 19644172140  10% /
> /dev/hda5   49782917472110   0% /tmp
> /dev/hda6  1011928 30252930272   3% /var
> /dev/hda7  5044156236828   4551096   5% /usr
> /dev/hda8  3028080157432   2716828   5% /usr/local
> /dev/hda10 1011928 10612949912   1% /home
> /dev/hda11 5653028305180   5060688   6% /misc
> 
> Also /dev/hda1 is a 3 GB disk for kk95 (games) and /dev/hda9 is a 200
> MB swap partition.

Interesting, but IMO wasteful.  You're utilizing less than 20 MB of your
200 MB root partition.  /tmp is far larger than I've ever needed, though
this could change -- I typically use about 50-90% of my 300 MB /var.
You're using 5% of /usr -- 236 MB of 5 GB, and 5% of /usr/local (157 MB
of 3 GB).  Then there's that /misc partition.

Suppose you went with something more like:

PartitionAllocated Used% Used  Mounted
--
/dev/hda240 MB 19 MB 48%   /
/dev/hda5   100 MB  0 MB  0%   /tmp
/dev/hda6 1,000 MB 30 MB  3%   /var
/dev/hda7 2,000 MB236 MB 12%   /usr
/dev/hda8 2,000 MB157 MB  8%   /usr/local
/dev/hda10   11,360 MB 10 MB  0%   /home
--
total16,500 MB
==

This should give you room to grow in /usr and /usr/local (up /usr by a
GB if you think you'll need it), and gives you a nice, fat, unbroken
11.36 GB in /home to stash your pr0n, MP3s and stuff .  It's like
buying an additional 8 GB of disk, for free.  We've gotten rid of /misc.

My own utilization on a fairly mature (eg: stable) system.  /usr is a
bit tight for my preferences, and I wish I could put /usr/doc and
/usr/src under it.  Maybe next time I do a disk reorg.

Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root   152247 44522 99863  31% /
/dev/sdb5   101089  3468 92402   4% /tmp
/dev/sdb6   303344162252125431  57% /var
/dev/hda5   495960 32092438268   7% /var/spool/news
/dev/sda5  1209572   1070996 77132  94% /usr
/dev/sdb7  1517920   1244852195960  87% /usr/local
/dev/hda8   253775160442 80231  67% /usr/doc
/dev/hda6   249871167565 69406  71% /usr/src
/dev/sda7   585008385704169588  70% /home

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Re: How can I put a package on hold without using Dselect?

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:33:20AM +0200, Frederik wrote:
> On a related issue:
> I've put kernel-image-2.2.17 on hold, because i've build my own
> kernel. I'd like to know if it's possible to make sure kernel-image isn't
> upgraded from the debian ftp's (my name: kernel-image-2.2.17_maui.1.2,
> which seems to be inferior to the version-number on the ftp)
> apt-get remove kernel-image-2.2.17 obviously doesn't do the trick...

i created two scripts to handle holding and unholding packages:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ cat /usr/local/sbin/dhold
#! /bin/sh

PRG=`basename $0`

if [ `id -u` != 0 ] ; then
echo "you're not root, go away."
exit 1
elif [ $# != 1 ] ; then
echo "Usage: $PRG "
exit 1
else
echo $1 hold | dpkg --set-selections
fi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ cat /usr/local/sbin/dunhold
#! /bin/sh

PRG=`basename $0`

if [ `id -u` != 0 ] ; then
echo "you're not root, go away."
exit 1
elif [ $# != 1 ] ; then
echo "Usage: $PRG "
exit 1
else
echo $1 install | dpkg --set-selections
fi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$

not much error checking so be sure you give it the right package
name.  

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system v

[Manfred Kissel]

hi,
is there a tool in the debian distribution like "ntsysv" in red-hat
which i can manage my init scripts to start and stop in different runlevels.
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Solution - The Computer People
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: INI like package

[Erdmut Pfeifer]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:39:23AM +0200, François Chenais wrote:
> Hello
> 
>   Is there any perl package for using windows ini files ?
> 

have a look at these modules:

  http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local/modules/by-module/Win32/

especially the module "Win32::Tie::Ini". I've never used it, but
from the description it sounds like it is what you are looking for...

It seems to be targeted at the windows platform, but if it's a
Perl-only module it shouldn't be too hard to get it running under
a decent OS ;-)

Erdmut



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Which bug reporting tool ?

[Jérôme Lacoste]

Hello debian users,

I am interested in Setting up a bug reporting tool for our internal projects
in my company.

What would you use for a bug reporting system?

I have seen several possibilities, among which:
+ debbugs
+ GNATS
+ Bugzilla

but I do not have the time to study them all. Especially when I may be
missing the one that fits our needs.

We are a small company and do not need a very big system. We do not maintain
thousands of packages or modules such as in Debian.
I plan to install if on a Debian Linux Box as soon as I set up Apache.

My requirements would be:
+ easy to install and more easy to configure/maintain
+ stable!
+ web accessible for the reporting.
+ possible choice of different back-end system for the DB.
+ and of course Free "as in Free Speech"
+ any security concerns would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot for your input / sharing your experience!

Jerome

++
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+47) 2295 8928
Forskningsparken, Gaustadalléen 21, 0349 Oslo, NORWAY
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Which bug reporting tool ?

[Jérôme Lacoste]

Hello debian users,

I am interested in Setting up a bug reporting tool for our internal projects
in my company.

What would you use for a bug reporting system?

I have seen several possibilities, among which:
+ debbugs
+ GNATS
+ Bugzilla

but I do not have the time to study them all. Especially when I may be
missing the one that fits our needs.

We are a small company and do not need a very big system. We do not maintain
thousands of packages or modules such as in Debian.
I plan to install if on a Debian Linux Box as soon as I set up Apache.

My requirements would be:
+ easy to install and more easy to configure/maintain
+ stable!
+ web accessible for the reporting.
+ possible choice of different back-end system for the DB.
+ and of course Free "as in Free Speech"
+ any security concerns would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot for your input / sharing your experience!

Jerome

++
Jerome Lacoste - Software Engineer - Smart Card Systems.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+47) 2295 8928
Forskningsparken, Gaustadalleen 21, 0349 Oslo, NORWAY
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:2.1
N:Lacoste;Jérôme;;Mr.
FN:Jérôme Lacoste
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TITLE:Software Engineer
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Re: [ot] grub is great!

[Manoj Srivastava]

>>"Bob" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >> man kernel-img.conf.

 Bob> Hmm, I don't seem to have /etc/kernel-img.conf, but in
 Bob> /etc/kernel-pkg.conf:

Oops. I should have mentioned that kernel-img.conf is an
 enhancement for woody kernel-package.

 Bob> image_in_boot:= 1

 Bob> This appears to do the same thing.  Is one of these deprecated?

Umm, no. The image in boot parameter is used to set the
 symlinks in /boot (actually, $image_dir, which defaults to /boot);
 and the $image_dest parameter allows you to set the dest to any dir
 you choose. Also, the $relative_links and the $do_bootloader options
 are new to the woody kernel-package. 

manoj
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Re: xinetd/tcp wrappers problem

[Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar]

solved
I have to allow "ident" in hosts.allow because the service is "ident"

-> I run xinetd and I found that compiled-in tcp wrappers don't work...
-> 
-> hosts.allow: 
-> 
-> identd : ALL : severity daemon.info : allow
-> proftpd : ALL : severity daemon.info : allow
-> 
-> ALL : ALL : severity daemon.notice : deny
-> 
-> 
-> /etc/xinetd.conf:
-> 
-> service ident
-> {

-> Sep 18 16:53:38 fantomas xinetd[257]: FAIL: ident libwrap from=195.168.1.22
-> 
-> ... Whenever I comment out the last line in hosts.allow, I can get in with
-> identd and ftpd; but when I have it this way, it rejects the connection.
-> Logs don't tell anything more :((


-- 
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Re: apt-get problems

[Manoj Srivastava]

>>"Neil" == Neil L Roeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Neil> Is there any way to add something to kernel-pkg.conf to achieve this?
 Neil> I know I'll forget to use the --revision option someday.

look into /ect/kernel-pkg.conf

# This is the debian revision number (defaulted to 1.0 in debian.rules)
# You may leave it commented out if you use the wrapper script, or
# if you create just one kernel-image package per linux kernel revision
# debian := 1.0
debian := 5:c501

manoj
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1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05  CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B  924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Configuring KDE- Dial Up PPP

[Christopher W. Aiken]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:39:40AM -0700, Jacob Hunter wrote:
-|When i run Dial Up Networking on KDE a box comes up saying pppd died 
unexpectedly...  I have my connection configured properly to work with my ISP, 
but it still says that... i even tried a different ISP...
-|anyone have any ideas?
-|jacob
-|

Do an "ls -l" on your pppd and see what "group" it belongs too.
Add yourself to that group.  Then logout/login to reset your
group list.  Also look in /etc/ppp for an options file.  If there
is no options file then "touch options" to create an empty one.

---   
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
Preferred O/S: Debian Linux 2.2

Re: Begone, vile emacs!

[Jonathan Markevich]

Well, for those following the thread, emacs is now gone.  I installed
emacs19 and purged it.  It was only a 6MB download over a 56k dial-up of a
package that I didn't want, but hey!

Thanks for all your help.

-- 
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http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich
== It's VIRUSES, not VIRII!  See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==

Only two of my personalities are schizophrenic, but one of them is
paranoid and the other one is out to get him.

Re: INI like package

[Colin Watson]

Erdmut Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:39:23AM +0200, François Chenais wrote:
>>  Is there any perl package for using windows ini files ?
>
>have a look at these modules:
>
>  http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local/modules/by-module/Win32/
>
>especially the module "Win32::Tie::Ini". I've never used it, but
>from the description it sounds like it is what you are looking for...
>
>It seems to be targeted at the windows platform, but if it's a
>Perl-only module it shouldn't be too hard to get it running under
>a decent OS ;-)

There's also the Debian package libiniconf-perl:

Package: libiniconf-perl
Priority: extra
Section: interpreters
Installed-Size: 80
Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 0.92-2
Depends: perl5 | perl
Filename: dists/woody/main/binary-i386/interpreters/libiniconf-perl_0.92-2.deb
Size: 12632
MD5sum: 4f4b658a9f07506379012859b0f8eab0
Description: perl IniConf - A Module for reading .ini-style configuration files.
 IniConf provides a way to have readable configuration
 files outside your Perl script. The configuration can be
 safely reloaded upon receipt of a signal.

-- 
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Re: system v

[Colin Watson]

Manfred Kissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>is there a tool in the debian distribution like "ntsysv" in red-hat
>which i can manage my init scripts to start and stop in different
>runlevels.

Yes: it's called update-rc.d. You'll already have it installed, as it's
part of the dpkg package.

(Admittedly this is more like chkconfig (?). I don't know if there's any
graphical tool. There's been some discussion on debian-devel recently
about various graphical administration tools, like webmin.)

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Internet Cafe

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

ChrisHellberg<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Would they then get back to the fancy graphical login screen..

Yes.

>then when
> they login again, everything is remounted I spose?

Not if not using autofs, which never works really well in my
experience. We have the Gnome Desktop installed here, where there is a
floppy icon which you double click on, then the floppy is mounted
automagically and a window with its contents shown (or you do a single
right click and choose `mount floppy' from the menu, then you don't
get the window). Of course, most users forget to umount again, even
when pointed out.

> Does GDM have PAM support so I can use LDAP authentication or if I'm
> feeling lazy and not security conscious, a mysql table of users?

It has PAM support (there is a PAM file in the Debian package), but I
don't know much about that.

Greetings,
joachim

Re: Printing--what am I missing? -- solved!

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 08:47:56PM -0400, Thomas J. Hamman wrote:
> Disregard my last post on this subject--I rebooted my machine and now I
> can print ps files just fine! :)
> 
> Michael, thank you again for all your responses, I appreciate it
> immensely. :)
> 
> Finally, I can write my English essay in peace.

No problem. Now if only I can figure out why my printer daemon is just
sitting there ignoring printjobs. ;-)

Mike

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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

Re: X

[David Boisvert]

  To choose and to configure your X server use: 
  xf86config
  To install gnome: lynx http://www.go-gnome.com | sh 
   
  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Charles 
  
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 7:38 
  AM
  Subject: X
  After I did the config. I must have done 
  something wrong.As I get the error messages that I can't connect to 
  the X Server???Is there an easy way to back out and reconfig the 
  Server???On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:12:59 -0700, Nate Amsden 
  wrote:>Charles wrote:>> >> I have just 
  completed my install of Debian Potato.>> >> I would like 
  to get to the Gui, Gnome, X, or whatever.>> >> I have 
  tried startx, but it does not work>> >> How do I start the 
  GUI>>first make sure whatever "GUI" you want is installed, 
  then configure X,>either by anXious, xf86config, or XF86Setup, after 
  that is done, startx>should work provided your hardware is 
  supported.>>nate>>-- >:::>ICQ: 
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Re: Netscape errors??

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 11:13:52PM -0400, Christopher W. Aiken wrote:

> Question for you.  I just installed, using apt-get, Communicator 4.73
> from my Official CD's.  When I fire up Netscape I get the following
> errors printed out.  Anyone know why??
> 
> ls: /usr/lib/netscape/473/wrapper.d: No such file or directory
> ls: /usr/lib/netscape/473/communicator/wrapper.d: No such file or directory

Yeah, I get that too. 

I've been assuming that the wrapper script that fires up netscape is
looking for these files, and the ls in the script is coming back false, and
the author didn't bother to redirect stderr to /dev/null. But, I haven't
looked at the code to confirm this.

Mike

-- 
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

Re: Netscape errors??

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 09:06:20PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:

> > ls: /usr/lib/netscape/473/communicator/wrapper.d: No such file or directory
> 
> that is normal, safe to ignore, shouldn't cause any problems

Something should probably still be done about that though. Training users
to ignore errors is not a good thing.

Mike

-- 
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

mtu/mru ISDN dialup.

[Leen Besselink]

Hi folks,

When I run tcpdump on my ippp0 connection to my ISP, I get a lot of
packets like this:

tcpdump: listening on ippp0
truncated-ip - 46 bytes missing!0.40.224.225 > 64.0.127.6: (frag 
26486:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0x17] [ttl 0]
truncated-ip - 28 bytes missing!0.58.208.128 > 0.0.64.17: (frag
38871:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0x17] [ttl 0]
194.165.94.5.53 > 195.86.113.3.1042: 41* 1/3/3 (159)
truncated-ip - 38 bytes missing!0.48.64.158 > 64.0.127.6: (frag
38871:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0x17] [ttl 0]
64.28.67.48.80 > 195.86.113.3.63822: S 1395078506:1395078506(0) ack
13465379 win 16060  (DF)
truncated-ip - 46 bytes missing!0.40.67.158 > 64.0.127.6: (frag
38871:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0x17]
1.190.68.158 > 64.0.127.6: (frag 38871:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0x17]
truncated-ip - 436 bytes missing!64.28.67.48.80 > 195.86.113.3.63822: P
1:1461(1460) ack 407 win 16060 (DF)

This worries me a bit, so I put this in my /etc/ppp/ioptions:
mru 1000
mtu 1000

But it doesn't seem to help, what is normal for ISDN connections anyway ?

Or does someone think tcpdump just wrong or I got bad cabling (I wouldn't
be surprised).

tia,
Lennie.

Re: X

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 11:38:46PM -0700, Charles wrote:
> Looking up  'www.storm.ca' first
> 
>After I did the config. I must have done something wrong.
>As I get the error messages that I can't connect to the X Server???
>Is there an easy way to back out and reconfig the Server???

Did you log out completely and log back in before trying this? If you su
to root or some other account in an xterm and then try a graphical
application, the DISPLAY won't be set correctly. 
Have you installed the proper server for your video card?

xf86config and XF86Setup are for this purpose.

Mike

Re: mail sorting

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:22:30AM +0200, Billet Olivier wrote:
> I tried procmail and it seems pretty powerfull. It makes it easy to sort
> the mails...

It's very powerful, but I find the recipes a headache. Since I'm a bit of
a Perl fanatic, I took my mail filter from the last issue of TPJ, using the
Mail::Audit module. 
If you know Perl, you'll probably find the syntax a lot easier. 

Mike

-- 
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"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

Re: Netscape errors??

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:22:20AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> Something should probably still be done about that though. Training users
> to ignore errors is not a good thing.

its fixed in the netscape 475 packages, which everyone should run
anyway since older versions are full of security holes.

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


pgpodPwka3vVZ.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Mangled text in X

[Jimmy O'Regan]

I recently installed 2.2 on a machine, and X works fine, except the text
is mangled. I installed task-gnome-desktop and gdm, switched to X, and
everything was garbled, so then I installed xfs, xfonts-100dpi to see if
that'd help. Same deal.

Anyone got any ideas?

--
"The Information Superhighway made it possible for the average person
to find out what some nerd thinks about Star Trek"

http://lit.compsoc.com/
http://www.litsu.ie/

Re: Samba via inetd, not a good idea?

[Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar]

-> I set up Samba to run via inetd (and through tcpd) so I coud easily
-> control host access (default deny-all policy).

This is not correct way to control access to your samba - due to the way how
samba works. Use 

-> So I figured I'd better run as daemons instead of from `inetd' and added
-> something like this to the `[global]' section of my `smb.conf'

That's it

->   hosts deny  = ALL EXCEPT localhost # deny-all policy
->   hosts allow = 172.16.  # private class B network
-> 
-> and ran `sambaconfig' again.  So far, so good.  I haven't seen any
-> looping in the last few hours.  Uh, after starting it with the `-a'
-> flag (already filed a bug report about this).

-> All in all, it looks like running Samba from `inetd' is not such a
-> good idea.

It's good when you have slow machine which is just someties used as samba
server...

-- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ ; http://www.nextra.sk/
 Boost your system's speed by 500% - DEL C:\WINDOWS\*.*

Re: X launchbar?

[judd]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 08:29:15AM -0700, Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Does anyone know of a basic X launchbar?  Basic as in doesn't
> depend on too many libraries to run.  Gets to be a pain to launch
> programs from different machines to my local desktop from the
> command line of each machine.

Have you looked into tkdesk?  It requires tk/tcl and a few other libs.
I´m not sure how easy it is to configure to launch remote apps, though.

-Chris


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apt-get questions ?????

[Saran]

Hi there people,

Okay I took the plunge to update my Debian Slink with some of the latest
updates.  I installed linuxconf with apt-get and now my lynx, slrn and
debconf is dead.  Dead Dead !!!  I dunno what other packages are affected,
it'll probably take time to figure that out... when I need to use it, that
is.

So the big question here is : How do I go about reinstalling these packages.
I prefer to use lynx to access websites rather than going in to X and
starting up a graphical browser to view the page.  Furthermore, graphics
take more bandwidth and time to download.

Thank you in advance.
Saranjit.

Re: Do you recomend to upgrade to Woody?

[Scott_Patterson]

>Someone there would recommend to use Woody on my Linux-box in home?
>I'm using Potato
>
>Regards
>
>Rogelio E. Castillo



Sure. If it's just for personal use (non-critical), I don't see any problem. As
  a matter of fact, I just upgraded to woody last night over a 56k dialup. I
  choose this route so I could run all the latest and greatest software.



Scott

What to apt-get for KDE and GNOME

[Scott_Patterson]

I'm interested in following the latest KDE2 and GNOME packages but I can't seem
  to find any easy way to select them ALL. It appears there are many
  packages/tasks I'd need to select to get them ALL. I'd rather not select
  them one by one, so, anyone know of a good way to apt-get them all? I
  don't want all the KDE translations either, english will suffice!



Scott

Re: apt-get questions ?????

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:49:25PM +0800, Saran wrote:
> Hi there people,
> 
> Okay I took the plunge to update my Debian Slink with some of the latest
> updates.  I installed linuxconf with apt-get and now my lynx, slrn and
> debconf is dead.  Dead Dead !!!  I dunno what other packages are affected,
> it'll probably take time to figure that out... when I need to use it, that
> is.
> 
> So the big question here is : How do I go about reinstalling these packages.
> I prefer to use lynx to access websites rather than going in to X and
> starting up a graphical browser to view the page.  Furthermore, graphics
> take more bandwidth and time to download.

Wierd! That's rather scary actually. I hope someone is looking into what
caused this. 

Run an "apt-get check" to check all of your packages' states. If these
aren't working, it will hopefully report it. 
Otherwise, try reinstalling them. 

apt-get install lynx, etc. See what happens. 

Also, you say you're updating from slink. I'd recommend a full
dist-upgrade to potato. That may solve all of these problems. Not that they
should have happened, mind you. Something like this should never happen, IMHO,
but unfortunately we live in the real world. 

Mike

-- 
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"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

RE: Spammer by incompetence, RBL may be an option

[Pollywog]

I just filter [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s messages and I never see them.
Before you complain to RBL, try a complaint to the contact for netvigator.com.
Perhaps they will do something about this.

--
Andrew

On 20-Sep-2000 Osamu Aoki wrote:
> I hate stupid MTA causing this problem.  I like idea to kick out
> my.netvigator.com (looks like chinese free e-mail account.  I can not
> read chinese) from internet mail system.
> 
> I understand debian ML can not do that. It may be best to report this 

RE: apt-get questions ?????

[Saran]

Actually I done that... here's the output of apt-get check

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get check
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US
Packages'
(/var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_bi
nary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files
Tatooine:/home/saran#


and here's the output on apt-get install lynx

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get install lynx
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  lynx: Depends: debconf
E: Sorry, broken packages
Tatooine:/home/saran#

I tried the same for debconf, but no such luck.  Any other way ?


Cheers,
Saranjit.



-Original Message-
From: Michael P. Soulier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:27 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get questions ?


On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:49:25PM +0800, Saran wrote:
> Hi there people,
>
> Okay I took the plunge to update my Debian Slink with some of the latest
> updates.  I installed linuxconf with apt-get and now my lynx, slrn and
> debconf is dead.  Dead Dead !!!  I dunno what other packages are affected,
> it'll probably take time to figure that out... when I need to use it, that
> is.
>
> So the big question here is : How do I go about reinstalling these
packages.
> I prefer to use lynx to access websites rather than going in to X and
> starting up a graphical browser to view the page.  Furthermore, graphics
> take more bandwidth and time to download.

Wierd! That's rather scary actually. I hope someone is looking into what
caused this.

Run an "apt-get check" to check all of your packages' states. If these
aren't working, it will hopefully report it.
Otherwise, try reinstalling them.

apt-get install lynx, etc. See what happens.

Also, you say you're updating from slink. I'd recommend a full
dist-upgrade to potato. That may solve all of these problems. Not that they
should have happened, mind you. Something like this should never happen,
IMHO,
but unfortunately we live in the real world.

Mike

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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX


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Re: Printing--what am I missing?

[Stephan Kulka]

> On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 10:23:11PM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test$ lpr test.ps 
> > > lpr: connect: No such file or directory
> > > jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
> >^^^
> 
> Oddly, according to "ps ax | grep lpd" I already had lpd running.
> 
> I can at least use the verbose option now though.  The relevant output I
> receive is this:
> 
> sending job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
> connected to 'localhost'
> requesting printer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> sending control file 'cfA234hurricane' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> completed sending 'cfA234hurricane' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> sending data file 'dfA234hurricane' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> completed sending 'dfA234hurricane' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> done job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> That would seem to imply that everything worked fine, but my actual
> printer did nothing
> 
> -- 
Hello
I have the same problem, as you describe it. AFAIK the printer works just
fine under Win.

Stephan

RE: apt-get questions ?????

[Alberto Pereira]

Trie a simple command
dpkg --configure -a

Like dselect does..

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Saran wrote:

Actually I done that... here's the output of apt-get check

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get check
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US
Packages'
(/var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_bi
nary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files
Tatooine:/home/saran#


and here's the output on apt-get install lynx

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get install lynx
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  lynx: Depends: debconf
E: Sorry, broken packages
Tatooine:/home/saran#

I tried the same for debconf, but no such luck.  Any other way ?


Cheers,
Saranjit.



-Original Message-
From: Michael P. Soulier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:27 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get questions ?


On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:49:25PM +0800, Saran wrote:
> Hi there people,
>
> Okay I took the plunge to update my Debian Slink with some of the latest
> updates.  I installed linuxconf with apt-get and now my lynx, slrn and
> debconf is dead.  Dead Dead !!!  I dunno what other packages are affected,
> it'll probably take time to figure that out... when I need to use it, that
> is.
>
> So the big question here is : How do I go about reinstalling these
packages.
> I prefer to use lynx to access websites rather than going in to X and
> starting up a graphical browser to view the page.  Furthermore, graphics
> take more bandwidth and time to download.

Wierd! That's rather scary actually. I hope someone is looking into what
caused this.

Run an "apt-get check" to check all of your packages' states. If these
aren't working, it will hopefully report it.
Otherwise, try reinstalling them.

apt-get install lynx, etc. See what happens.

Also, you say you're updating from slink. I'd recommend a full
dist-upgrade to potato. That may solve all of these problems. Not that they
should have happened, mind you. Something like this should never happen,
IMHO,
but unfortunately we live in the real world.

Mike

--
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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX


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Re: Configuring KDE- Dial Up PPP

[Thomas Halahan]

I asked had this problem a week ago.  Many people kindly replied, and
I sorted it out.  It is the 'auth' option in /etc/ppp/options.  

I have forwarded the emails to your email address so as not to
clutter here.

Tom

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Christopher W. Aiken wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:39:40AM -0700, Jacob Hunter wrote:
> -|When i run Dial Up Networking on KDE a box comes up saying pppd died 
> unexpectedly...  I have my connection configured properly to work with my 
> ISP, but it still says that... i even tried a different ISP...
> -|anyone have any ideas?
> -|jacob
> -|
> 
> Do an "ls -l" on your pppd and see what "group" it belongs too.
> Add yourself to that group.  Then logout/login to reset your
> group list.  Also look in /etc/ppp for an options file.  If there
> is no options file then "touch options" to create an empty one.
> 
> ---   
> Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
> chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
> Preferred O/S: Debian Linux 2.2
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RE: apt-get questions ?????

[Saran]

Sorry, I don't get what you mean.  I typed the command at the prompt, but it
gives me nothing.

Cheers,
Saranjit.

-Original Message-
From: Alberto Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:54 PM
To: Saran
Cc: Michael P. Soulier; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: apt-get questions ?


Trie a simple command
dpkg --configure -a

Like dselect does..

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Saran wrote:

Actually I done that... here's the output of apt-get check

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get check
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US
Packages'
(/var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_bi
nary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files
Tatooine:/home/saran#


and here's the output on apt-get install lynx

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get install lynx
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  lynx: Depends: debconf
E: Sorry, broken packages
Tatooine:/home/saran#

I tried the same for debconf, but no such luck.  Any other way ?


Cheers,
Saranjit.



-Original Message-
From: Michael P. Soulier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:27 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get questions ?


On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:49:25PM +0800, Saran wrote:
> Hi there people,
>
> Okay I took the plunge to update my Debian Slink with some of the latest
> updates.  I installed linuxconf with apt-get and now my lynx, slrn and
> debconf is dead.  Dead Dead !!!  I dunno what other packages are affected,
> it'll probably take time to figure that out... when I need to use it, that
> is.
>
> So the big question here is : How do I go about reinstalling these
packages.
> I prefer to use lynx to access websites rather than going in to X and
> starting up a graphical browser to view the page.  Furthermore, graphics
> take more bandwidth and time to download.

Wierd! That's rather scary actually. I hope someone is looking into what
caused this.

Run an "apt-get check" to check all of your packages' states. If these
aren't working, it will hopefully report it.
Otherwise, try reinstalling them.

apt-get install lynx, etc. See what happens.

Also, you say you're updating from slink. I'd recommend a full
dist-upgrade to potato. That may solve all of these problems. Not that they
should have happened, mind you. Something like this should never happen,
IMHO,
but unfortunately we live in the real world.

Mike

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ESS1868

[Tommy Wu]

Hi!

   I've a ESS1868 sound card on my box.
   But I can install the driver for this. It's always show something failed.

   Here is my syslog for isapnp and sb.

=== cut start ===
isapnp: Scanning for Pnp cards...
isapnp: Card 'ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive'
isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive detected
sb: ISAPnP reports 'ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive' at i/o 0x220, irq 5, dm
a 1, 3
SB 3.01 detected OK (220)
ESS chip ES1868 specified
 at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1,3
sb: ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive detected
sb: Failed to initialize ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive
sb: 1 Soundblaster PnP card(s) found.
YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-1996
 at 0x388
=== cut end ===

   How can I do for this error ?

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Re: Do you recomend to upgrade to Woody?

[dochawk]

> Has anyone used woody for mission critical stuff?  I know some people run
> woody-based web servers, eg, but I haven't. 

I used to run the unstable branches.  Prior to 1.1, this was kind of 
necessary :)

However, somewhere arround 98, iirc, it became impractical.  With 
regular updated, I could pretty much count ona show-stopper problem 
every 4-6 months--the kind that would take the machine out of action 
for most fot the day.

Mission critical? I was trying to complete a dissertaiton, so yes :)

hawk

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Re: X launchbar?

[Steve Lamb]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:46:23AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Suggestions:  X Window Resources, aliases, shell scripts, .profile or
> .login scripts.

All of which require me to leave a login on the machine.  I fail to see
why it is hard to sympathize.  I can launch commands on one machine with a GUI
menu, why can I not have a GUI menu which isn't tied to the WM on a second
machine to launch applications there?

> Under WindowMaker, dock/clip icons can be tied to specific actions.
> These might include remote commands via ssh (though you'll have to deal
> with authentication).  Other window managers may have similar
> functionality.

OK, I may not have explained things adequately for you to understand why
this isn't possible.  Here is my setup:


   Work - WinNT w/Exceed
 X server running here
  /\
Home - Linux -Cable--/-|  |-\-Ether Work - Solaris
WM runs here No Want to launch here
  connection
   here

Note, there is no connection between the Home Linux box and the Work
Solaris box.  To make a connection I would need to go through three
intermediate steps.  That makes remote execution from the home machine
difficult to script and then I would be doing something foolish.  I would be
exporting a sessions over my cable modem to my Linux box through SSH where it
is then tossed back out the cable modem over another ssh session to my NT box
which is on the same ether as the solaris box.

What I am looking for is something GUI to run on the Solaris box to launch
common applications without needing to leave a terminal open on the machine.
However, since the Solaris box isn't running a WM the recent popular
toolkits/libraries (KDE, GNome and associated libs) aren't available.  It
seems logical to me that when one is in a GUI and can launch a variety of
applications from one environment with the GUI one might want to be able to
launch a variety of applications in the other environment using a GUI as well.
To me it seems a simple enough concept.  Maybe I'm the first one to think of
it, who knows.  Hopefully, however, this explination helps.

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Re: Spammer by incompetence, RBL may be an option

[Robert Waldner]

The RBL is for spammers, that is, UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email), 
 UBE (Unsolicited Bulk Email), also, fraud (mailbombing etc) is 
 sometimes considered spam.

It is *not* intended for misconfigured/-programmed mailers, nor a list 
 of open relays (ORBS http://www.orbs.org/ is doing that).

Read http://maps.vix.com/rbl/candidacy.html .

So, the RBL is simply the wrong place for something like that.

Also the RBL is used throughout the internet for *blackholing* all 
 IP-connectivity from spammers. If you misconfigured your MTA (or 
 simply chose a, say, "broken", one), what would you say if you were 
 cut off from ~ 40 % of the internet, as would be the effect if you 
 were RBLed?

I sent a (friendly) message to the postmaster at my.netvigator.com 
 already, informing them of the problem and pointing out directions to 
 fix it. You may want to do the same.

cheers,
&rw

>On 20-Sep-2000 Osamu Aoki wrote:
>> I hate stupid MTA causing this problem.  I like idea to kick out
>> my.netvigator.com (looks like chinese free e-mail account.  I can not
>> read chinese) from internet mail system.
>> 
>> I understand debian ML can not do that. It may be best to report this 



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RE: apt-get questions ?????

[Alberto Pereira]

If give to you nothing, try 
dpkg --pending --configure

Or try to do update by dselect
dselect
Update


On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Saran wrote:

Sorry, I don't get what you mean.  I typed the command at the prompt, but it
gives me nothing.

Cheers,
Saranjit.

-Original Message-
From: Alberto Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:54 PM
To: Saran
Cc: Michael P. Soulier; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: apt-get questions ?


Trie a simple command
dpkg --configure -a

Like dselect does..

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Saran wrote:

Actually I done that... here's the output of apt-get check

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get check
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US
Packages'
(/var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_bi
nary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files
Tatooine:/home/saran#


and here's the output on apt-get install lynx

Tatooine:/home/saran# apt-get install lynx
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  lynx: Depends: debconf
E: Sorry, broken packages
Tatooine:/home/saran#

I tried the same for debconf, but no such luck.  Any other way ?


Cheers,
Saranjit.



-Original Message-
From: Michael P. Soulier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:27 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get questions ?


On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:49:25PM +0800, Saran wrote:
> Hi there people,
>
> Okay I took the plunge to update my Debian Slink with some of the latest
> updates.  I installed linuxconf with apt-get and now my lynx, slrn and
> debconf is dead.  Dead Dead !!!  I dunno what other packages are affected,
> it'll probably take time to figure that out... when I need to use it, that
> is.
>
> So the big question here is : How do I go about reinstalling these
packages.
> I prefer to use lynx to access websites rather than going in to X and
> starting up a graphical browser to view the page.  Furthermore, graphics
> take more bandwidth and time to download.

Wierd! That's rather scary actually. I hope someone is looking into what
caused this.

Run an "apt-get check" to check all of your packages' states. If these
aren't working, it will hopefully report it.
Otherwise, try reinstalling them.

apt-get install lynx, etc. See what happens.

Also, you say you're updating from slink. I'd recommend a full
dist-upgrade to potato. That may solve all of these problems. Not that they
should have happened, mind you. Something like this should never happen,
IMHO,
but unfortunately we live in the real world.

Mike

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nis and netbase

[Douglas Eck]

I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade to woody from potato

It seems that today at least, the existing version of nis
(nis_3.6-2.deb) won't play nicely with the latest
netbase (netbase4.0.5). netbase says it won't deal with
any nis <=3.6-2. 

>From dselect when I try to install nis;
 netbase conflicts with nis (<= 3.6-2)
 nis depends on netbase


Any ideas? I tried backing off to the potato netbase
but dselect kept trying to reinstall the later netbase. 

PS. Is there a command-line option on dpkg or apt-get
to print out dependancies to stdout?

Thanks,
Doug Eck

X-Window Configuration

[Stephan Kulka]

I had some difficulties starting the X-server, but now I just do not know
where to start with installing windowmanager. I am interested in using
GNOME.
Could any one of you point out where I can start reading.
BTW: Where can I get information about the Linux-filesystem?

Stephan

Re: Spammer by incompetence, RBL may be an option

[Dave Sherohman]

Pollywog said:
> I just filter [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s messages and I never see them.
> Before you complain to RBL, try a complaint to the contact for netvigator.com.
> Perhaps they will do something about this.

I sent a complaint to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this and stating the
name of the user with a full mailbox should be included in the message.  I
sent it over a week ago.  I have received no response.

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Re: Message saying this lists's mailbox is full

[Mark Brown]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 03:05:17AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:

> except this broken MTA helpfully neglects to mention WHO the user is
> that has a full mailbox.  so there is no way to know who to
> unsubscribe.  

The Debian mailing lists use a VERP-like (it might actually be VERP, I
can't remember or be bothered to look) system which includes the
recipient address in the sender information.  Of course, the broken mail
software is generating bounces to the From: in the message rather than
the envelope sender so that won't actually help much...

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Re: ESS1868

[Herbert Ho]

i have a ess1888 and i've had nothing but bad luck with it. i can get
my to install properly but it would always dma/io timeout. not even
the driver authors were sure what was wrong so i eventually gave up
(after about 1 yr and two kernel version, 2.0 and 2.2) and bought a
cheap, but real, sb16.

some stuff you can try:

have you checked /dev/sndstat?  that might provide some more
information if you installed the drivers into the kernel. otherwise if
its a modules (as in the generic kernel that came with the install)

you might want to try other irq/ioport settings. most drivers don't
install properly b/c the io/irq settings are wrong. though it was
probed w/ isapnp... ?

also the dma and dma16 settings can be fiddled with. you can also try
just setting the dma and not the dma16 or maybe setting them to the
same one.

and finally, play around w/ the esstype parameter.  set it for the
ess1688 (i think its this one) to make it behave like the 2.0 kernel
drivers did.  this might fix it for you.

all this information is in the sound HOWTO.  i'd recommend you read
(or reread) that...

good luck.


herbert

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 10:09:04PM +0800, Tommy Wu wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>I've a ESS1868 sound card on my box.
>But I can install the driver for this. It's always show something failed.
> 
>Here is my syslog for isapnp and sb.
> 
> === cut start ===
> isapnp: Scanning for Pnp cards...
> isapnp: Card 'ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive'
> isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
> Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> sb: ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive detected
> sb: ISAPnP reports 'ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive' at i/o 0x220, irq 5, 
> dm
> a 1, 3
> SB 3.01 detected OK (220)
> ESS chip ES1868 specified
>  at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1,3
> sb: ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive detected
> sb: Failed to initialize ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive
> sb: 1 Soundblaster PnP card(s) found.
> YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-1996
>  at 0x388
> === cut end ===
> 
>How can I do for this error ?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Tommy Wu
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.teatime.com.tw/~tommy
> ICQ: 22766091
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vim expandtab

[Parrish M Myers]

Hi,

I installed vim on my potato box.  It seems to be a great vi
replacement.  But, is there any way to make vim to insert spaces when
the tab button is presses.  I think I have to set the expandtab setting
by the command:

:set et

But this doesn't seem to always work.  Most notably when I use the
command O or o.  When I use these commands there is still an 8space tab
that is inserted.  Is there any way to get the tab repacement option to
work all the time...  I want it to act like nedit does with the emulate
tab option.


Thanks

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Re: How can I put a package on hold without using Dselect?

[Brad]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:33:20AM +0200, Frederik wrote:
> On a related issue:
> I've put kernel-image-2.2.17 on hold, because i've build my own
> kernel. I'd like to know if it's possible to make sure kernel-image isn't
> upgraded from the debian ftp's (my name: kernel-image-2.2.17_maui.1.2,
> which seems to be inferior to the version-number on the ftp)
> apt-get remove kernel-image-2.2.17 obviously doesn't do the trick...

That's because 2.2.17pre6 is greater than 2.2.17, so whatever you put
after the - doesn't matter.

Try something like the invocation of make-kpkg i've been using recently:
 make-kpkg --rev 3:2.2.17-anomie.5 kernel-image

The "3:" sets an epoch of 3, making my package version greater than
anything likely to be seen on the Debian kernel-image-2.2.17.


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Problem compiling kernel

[Georg Werthner]

hi,
i installed debian v2.2rc0.
i have a problem compiling the kernel 2.2.17:
the makefile in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot wants to call as86 with
options -0  -a  and ld86.
but as doesnt recognize the option -0 .
funny thing is that bulding kernel 2.4.0test8 works.
i also tried 2.2.15 but i had the same problem. 
i hope that somebody can help me.
thx georg

Re: Printing--what am I missing? -- solved!

[Vee-Eye]

 
> No problem.
It isn't for me either ...
>Now if only I can figure out why my printer daemon is just
> sitting there ignoring printjobs. ;-)
I suppose you are aware of the thread, hence you know what has been tried and
I suppose it didn't work for you ;-)
If you could describe your problem more exactly maybe I, or more likely someone 
else, could give you a hint.

1) lpr or lprng?
2) Can you print anything?
3) Can you print as root?
4) What does lpc status give you?
5) When you restart lpd what does happen (have a look at the foreground
option for debugging)?
6) Which printer and which filter?
6 and a half) Beside your printing-problem lpd seems consequential
just sitting around and contemplating the landscape, supposing he is
discovering his aesthetic nature...

MH

> Mike
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Broken kde?

[root]

I'm getting this with my new woody. And what a woody
it is.

>startx

starts startkde. Kde2 dies.

If I look on console 1 at the output I see: 

/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3 undefined symbol: Event__9QLineEditP6QEvent

I think I've got just about every kde2 package loaded. No complaints
from kdebase when it installs. On console 7, the WM does kick in,
give a left-arrow mouse and complains about dcoptserver or however
you spell it. But I'd say a broken library is the cause... 


*Second question*... I want kdm to build me a new kdmrc file.
It sees /etc/kde and offers to update the existing file, but
there is no existing file. How do I force kdm to generate
a new file base on all users and all avail. window managers? 

Any suggestions?

Doug Eck

Re: vim expandtab

[William Jensen]

I like my tabs to insert 3 spaces so I use:

set softtabstop=3

Luck,

Bill

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:36:12AM -0700, Parrish M Myers wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed vim on my potato box.  It seems to be a great vi
> replacement.  But, is there any way to make vim to insert spaces when
> the tab button is presses.  I think I have to set the expandtab setting
> by the command:
> 
> :set et
> 
> But this doesn't seem to always work.  Most notably when I use the
> command O or o.  When I use these commands there is still an 8space tab
> that is inserted.  Is there any way to get the tab repacement option to
> work all the time...  I want it to act like nedit does with the emulate
> tab option.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> =
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Re: time and timezones

[John Anderson]

Try the command  which will ask you to enter your local time
zone and set it accordingly.  I hope this helps.


John Kerr Anderson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2   


On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Andreas Palsson wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Here's a simple question.
> I've not been able to set my systems time correctly.
> 
> I've used 'hwclock' and set the hardware clock, and I guess it should be
> set to GMT.
> But what do I do after that?
> 
> If I use 'hwclock --hctosys' the system-time will be the same as GMT and
> not Swedish time.
> And beside all that, I can't find the command 'tzset' mentioned in the
> hwclock-manpage.
> 
> 
> /andreas - confused
> 
> 
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Re: ESS1868

[Michael Smith]

Try sndconfig--it's pretty easy to do any sound card.  I put my boss's 1688(?) 
on it
with little to no effort.

http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/sound/sndconfig.html

Question about updates

[Harry Henry Gebel]

I have sources.list set to the following:

# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.
#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
#deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

# Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work
#deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US

#uncomment for unstable
#deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
#deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
#deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
non-free

deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

Will I get security updates with `apt-cache update ; apt-cache upgrade`
using this configuration, or are the security updates kept in a different
place. I guess my question could also be phrased: what is the criterion for
an updated package being placed in stable, and if I want to keep up with
security updates and bug fixes do I have to track anything else that the
default locations?

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Re: Question about updates

[Robert Waldner]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:03:10 EDT, Harry Henry Gebel writes:
>I have sources.list set to the following:

>#deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

That´s why it´s called "security".debian.org ;-)

I use the following, and I´m getting all the proposed security-fixes 
 announced via debian-security:

deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib 
non-free


>Will I get security updates with `apt-cache update ; apt-cache upgrade`
>using this configuration, or are the security updates kept in a different
>place. I guess my question could also be phrased: what is the criterion for
>an updated package being placed in stable, and if I want to keep up with
>security updates and bug fixes do I have to track anything else that the
>default locations?

You may want to subscribe to debian-security; there´s a link on the 
website under "Mailing Lists" somewhere.

hth,
&rw
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Re: X-Window Configuration

[Pat Mahoney]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 05:10:43PM +0200, Stephan Kulka wrote:
> I had some difficulties starting the X-server, but now I just do not know
> where to start with installing windowmanager. I am interested in using
> GNOME.
> Could any one of you point out where I can start reading.

If you use dselect, search for the task-gnome packages.  If not, apt-get
install task-gnome-desktop (I think that's the right task...)

You might want try out Helix GNOME by adding this to you
/etc/apt/sources.list (see http://www.helixcode.com/):

  ## Helix GNOME

  deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

Then install task-helix-gnome which should depend on all the gnome stuff...

Note that installing these tasks installs *a lot* of stuff.  You could
individually install the packages you want, but the tasks are a good start.

After installing, putting "gnome-session &" from your $HOME/.xsession and then
running "startx" should start GNOME.


> BTW: Where can I get information about the Linux-filesystem?

What kind of info?  i.e. Developer or user?  If you are new to Linux, you
might want to read the Debian Tutortial
 and the Debian Guide
.  They both contain info
about basic file commands.

> 
> Stephan
> 

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How to split up a multipart mail

[Sergio Da Silva]

Hi,

When I transfer my mail onto my Palm device (using pilot-mail) I can only 
transfer "single" mail messages. In fact all the debian-user-digest mails 
remain on my desktop. I think that pilot-mail only transfers "single" mail 
messages but I may be wrong ...

Here are my questions:

1) Does anyone of you know of a mail client for the Palm device that is able to 
deal with multipart mail messages ?

2) How do I split up my mailbox into separate mails (debian-user-digest to x 
single mail messages) ?

Any help or advice is welcome.

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How to split up a mailbox

[Sergio Da Silva]

Hi,

When I transfer my mail onto my Palm device (using pilot-mail) I can only 
transfer "single" mail messages. In fact all the debian-user-digest mails 
remain on my desktop. I think that pilot-mail only transfers "single" mail 
messages but I may be wrong ...

Here are my questions:

1) Does anyone of you know of a mail client for the Palm device that is able to 
deal with multipart mail messages ?

2) How do I split up my mailbox into separate mails (debian-user-digest to x 
single mail messages) ?

Any help or advice is welcome.

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---
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Re: Question about updates

[Hubert Chan]

Harry Henry Gebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[snip]
> #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

You should uncomment this line

Hubert

rsa and ssh

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi all,
I tried as man ssh saied to login with ssh without password as:
ssh-genkey as remote host
scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:$HOME/.ssh/identity.pub $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys
and tried ssh remote and was prompted with a password
What is wrong?
Thanks, Paulo Henrique

Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?

[Adam Shand]

> I do have a question.  What is a good POP server to use with maildir
> mailboxes?  I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap.  
> Any suggestions?

there are only a couple of options.  qmail's popper (no a debian package
i believe) or solid-pop3.

cyrus has a pop/imap server but i don't believe it's mail store format is
exactly the same as maildir, similar but differnt.

i've used solid-pop3d and it seems to work okay, but i don't have any
experience using it on production servers.

adam.

Re: rsa and ssh

[Phil Brutsche]

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>   Hi all,
>   I tried as man ssh saied to login with ssh without password as:
>   ssh-genkey as remote host
>   scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:$HOME/.ssh/identity.pub $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys
>   and tried ssh remote and was prompted with a password
>   What is wrong?

Yout got it backwards.  That should have been


scp ~/.ssh/identity.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.ssh/keyfile
ssh remote
cd .ssh
cat keyfile >> authorized_keys


Note that you need to log in to the remote server and manually add the
public key to authorized_keys, otherwise you'll be replacing any
authorized keys you might have set up.

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html2ps

[nw x]

Hi, Debians:
I have a question about html2ps that is I just install it under my usr/local
directory and then I use the command
html2ps filename.html > filename.ps
however, it report the following warning message:
can not find the file and /usr/local/lib/html2ps/html2psrc and then it just 
convert the first page of my html file. Does anybody know how to fix this 
problem?
(As for the installation, I just download the compressed file from internet 
and then launch the install command).


Thanks for your help1

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RE: ESS1868

[Lehel Bernadt]

On 20-Sep-2000 Tommy Wu wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>I've a ESS1868 sound card on my box.
>But I can install the driver for this. It's always show something
> failed.
> 
>Here is my syslog for isapnp and sb.
> 
> === cut start ===
> isapnp: Scanning for Pnp cards...
> isapnp: Card 'ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive'
> isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
> Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> sb: ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive detected
> sb: ISAPnP reports 'ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive' at i/o 0x220,
> irq 5, dm
> a 1, 3
> SB 3.01 detected OK (220)
> ESS chip ES1868 specified
>  at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1,3
> sb: ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive detected
> sb: Failed to initialize ESS ES1868 Plug and Play AudioDrive
> sb: 1 Soundblaster PnP card(s) found.
> YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft
> 1993-1996
>  at 0x388
> === cut end ===
> 
>How can I do for this error ?

I have an ESS1868 too, and it's working. 
I don't use isapnp, since I'm using the default card
config.
My sb options are the following:
esstype=1868 io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1
To check these, just run the config program of the card from DOS.
What looks strange to me is "dma 1,3". Why two 8-bit dma channels ?

Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?

[Pollywog]

On 20-Sep-2000 Adam Shand wrote:
> 
>> I do have a question.  What is a good POP server to use with maildir
>> mailboxes?  I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap.  
>> Any suggestions?
> 
> there are only a couple of options.  qmail's popper (no a debian package
> i believe) or solid-pop3.
If qmail's popper is the same as qpopper, there is a Debian package.

--
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Can't get rid of kde...

[Johan Dewaele]

Hi,

Got a problem removing kdebase.  I installed some
kde 1.1.1 debs some time ago and since I don't use kde
anymore, I decided to remove it.

I "purged" all kde packages with dselect but I get following
error-message : (here repeated with dpkg)
 
[Mon Sep 18][20:39:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:dewaele# dpkg --purge kdebase
(Reading database ... 50629 files and directories currently
installed.)
Removing kdebase ...
dpkg: error processing kdebase (--purge):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kdebase

or another try :

[Mon Sep 18][20:43:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:dewaele# dpkg
--force-remove-reinstreq --remove kdebase
(Reading database ... 50629 files and directories currently
installed.)
Removing kdebase ...
dpkg: error processing kdebase (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kdebase

a dselect "output" :

  All
packages  
Brokenly installed packages
  Broken Optional packages  
Broken Optional packages in section x11
 I-- Opt x11  kdebase  1.1.1-19990 2.0-290 KDE core
applications

Package seems to be broken. How can I remove it?
I'm using a Woody.

TIA

Johan

Re: X launchbar?

[kmself]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 07:11:15AM -0700, Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:46:23AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > Suggestions:  X Window Resources, aliases, shell scripts, .profile or
> > .login scripts.
> 
> All of which require me to leave a login on the machine.  I fail to see
> why it is hard to sympathize.  I can launch commands on one machine with a GUI
> menu, why can I not have a GUI menu which isn't tied to the WM on a second
> machine to launch applications there?

You'll need to authenticate yourself to the remote system(s) no matter
what, unless you're running some sort of insecure remote access protocol
such as rsh.

> > Under WindowMaker, dock/clip icons can be tied to specific actions.
> > These might include remote commands via ssh (though you'll have to deal
> > with authentication).  Other window managers may have similar
> > functionality.
> 
> OK, I may not have explained things adequately for you to understand why
> this isn't possible.  Here is my setup:
> 
> 
>Work - WinNT w/Exceed
>  X server running here
>   /\
> Home - Linux -Cable--/-|  |-\-Ether Work - Solaris
> WM runs here No Want to launch here
>   connection
>here

Seems to me that eXceed running on the NT box is exogenous.

My understanding:
- You are sitting at home.
- You *do* have direct Internet access to your NT box
- You *don't* have direct Internet access to your Solaris box. 
- You want to launch X-based apps on the Solaris box to your local
  (home) X display.

It's not clear whether the Solaris box is isolated from the Internet, or
is merely behind a masquerade or firewall box which prohibits incoming
connections.

Your problem is also not quite the simple "how do I launch a remote X
app" issue you'd initially posed.  You need to establish the network
connection first.

You may want to read the Firewall-Piercing mini-HOWTO and/or the
Remote-X-Apps mini-HOWTO.  VPN may also be an appropriate solution.

NOTE THAT ANY OF THESE OPTIONS OR DOCUMENTS MAY SUGGEST OR INVOLVE
ACTIONS WHICH COMPROMISE YOUR SITE'S SECURITY AND/OR SECURITY POLICY,
THAT YOU MAY PLACE YOUR JOB IN JEOPARDY, OR EVEN BE COMMITTING UNLAWFUL
ACTS.  NO LIABILITY IS ACCEPTED FOR ANY ACTIONS TAKEN.  CONSULT WITH
YOUR SITE'S SECURITY PERSONNEL *FIRST*.

The simplest option would be to run SSH from the Solaris box
port-forwarding a port on your home box back to the Solaris system.
You'd initiate this session on Solaris, then from home, you could
initiate a command with:

ssh -p  @localhost command arguments

Depending on your authentication mechanisms, you might or might not be
prompted for a password.  I believe ssh-askpass may provide a GUI
mechanism for doing this.

If a direct connection isn't possible, you might use the NT box as a
man-in-the-middle to forward from your home box to the Solaris box.

In all cases, you'd have to *initiate* the connection from work, then
leave it running to use it from home.

I think getting a VPN system running would be your best option.  This
would tend to involve cooperation from the site, though I believe you
could roll your own.

> Note, there is no connection between the Home Linux box and the Work
> Solaris box.  To make a connection I would need to go through three
> intermediate steps.  That makes remote execution from the home machine
> difficult to script and then I would be doing something foolish.  I
> would be exporting a sessions over my cable modem to my Linux box
> through SSH where it is then tossed back out the cable modem over
> another ssh session to my NT box which is on the same ether as the
> Solaris box.
> 
> What I am looking for is something GUI to run on the Solaris box to
> launch common applications without needing to leave a terminal open on
> the machine.  However, since the Solaris box isn't running a WM the
> recent popular toolkits/libraries (KDE, GNome and associated libs)
> aren't available.  

Irrelevant.


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mySQL errors

[Account for Debian group mail]

New mySQL install (3.22.32-3) on Debian 2.2 (kernel 2.2.17). I can easily
issue a /etc/init.d/mysql start|reload|stop okay, but once it's running I
try a simple "mysqladmin version" and the tty hangs. 

This is what I see in mysql.err:


mysqld started on  Tue Sep 19 14:02:07 PDT 2000
/usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/var/log/mysql.log'
(Errcode: 13)
/usr/sbin/mysqld: ready for connections

Number of processes running now: 0
mysqld restarted on  Tue Sep 19 14:02:14 PDT 2000
000919 14:02:14  Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Address already
in use000919 14:02:14  Do you already have another mysqld server running
on port: 3306 ?
000919 14:02:14  Aborting

mysqld ended on  Tue Sep 19 14:02:14 PDT 2000


I've already tried giving the mysql.log file 777 perms and changed the
ownership from root to mysql and back, but no luck on getting rid of the
initial "Can't create/write" error. When doing a ps, there are no other
mysqld processes listed.

Anyone with mySQL experience have any suggestions?

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Re: Can't get rid of kde...

[Bob Nielsen]

You might be able to find the problem by taking a look at
/var/lib/dpkg/info/kdebase.postrm (or even running this by hand).

I've had success in similar situations by removing
/var/lib/dpkg/info/* and editing /var/lib/dpkg/info/status to
show that package as:

Status: purge ok not-installed

It's messy but sometimes there isn't an easy way.

Bob

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:54:30PM +0200, Johan Dewaele wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Got a problem removing kdebase.  I installed some
> kde 1.1.1 debs some time ago and since I don't use kde
> anymore, I decided to remove it.
> 
> I "purged" all kde packages with dselect but I get following
> error-message : (here repeated with dpkg)
>  
> [Mon Sep 18][20:39:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:dewaele# dpkg --purge kdebase
> (Reading database ... 50629 files and directories currently
> installed.)
> Removing kdebase ...
> dpkg: error processing kdebase (--purge):
>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  kdebase
> 
> or another try :
> 
> [Mon Sep 18][20:43:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:dewaele# dpkg
> --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kdebase
> (Reading database ... 50629 files and directories currently
> installed.)
> Removing kdebase ...
> dpkg: error processing kdebase (--remove):
>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  kdebase
> 
> a dselect "output" :
> 
>   All
> packages  
> Brokenly installed packages
>   Broken Optional packages  
> Broken Optional packages in section x11
>  I-- Opt x11  kdebase  1.1.1-19990 2.0-290 KDE core
> applications
> 
> Package seems to be broken. How can I remove it?
> I'm using a Woody.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Johan
> 
> 
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Re: Spammer by incompetence, RBL may be an option

[kmself]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:21:42PM +0200, Robert Waldner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> The RBL is for spammers, that is, UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email), 
>  UBE (Unsolicited Bulk Email), also, fraud (mailbombing etc) is 
>  sometimes considered spam.
> 
> It is *not* intended for misconfigured/-programmed mailers, nor a list 
>  of open relays (ORBS http://www.orbs.org/ is doing that).
> 
> Read http://maps.vix.com/rbl/candidacy.html .
> 
> So, the RBL is simply the wrong place for something like that.
> 
> Also the RBL is used throughout the internet for *blackholing* all 
>  IP-connectivity from spammers. If you misconfigured your MTA (or 
>  simply chose a, say, "broken", one), what would you say if you were 
>  cut off from ~ 40 % of the internet, as would be the effect if you 
>  were RBLed?


I'm finding myself with less sympathy for this argument.  Broken mailers
pollute the environment, and should be treated as other forms of
environmental pollution.  If your incompetance at selecting or
configuring a mailer inconveniences others, it should also inconvenience
you.  This provides incentive to remedy the problem.

A few dozen idiots is tolerable.  A few dozen thousands of idiots gets
to be a real problem.


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Re: How to split up a multipart mail

[kmself]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:27:08PM +0200, Sergio Da Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When I transfer my mail onto my Palm device (using pilot-mail) I can only 
> transfer "single" mail messages. In fact all the debian-user-digest mails 
> remain on my desktop. I think that pilot-mail only transfers "single" mail 
> messages but I may be wrong ...
> 
> Here are my questions:
> 
> 1) Does anyone of you know of a mail client for the Palm device that
> is able to deal with multipart mail messages ?

Not sure if this is quite right for you, but formail explodes digests.

> 2) How do I split up my mailbox into separate mails
> (debian-user-digest to x single mail messages) ?

formail is designed specifically for this.


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Re: Which bug reporting tool ?

[kmself]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 11:18:26AM +0200, Jérôme Lacoste ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hello debian users,
> 
> I am interested in Setting up a bug reporting tool for our internal projects
> in my company.
> 
> What would you use for a bug reporting system?
> 
> I have seen several possibilities, among which:
> + debbugs
> + GNATS
> + Bugzilla
> 
> but I do not have the time to study them all. Especially when I may be
> missing the one that fits our needs.
> 
> We are a small company and do not need a very big system. We do not maintain
> thousands of packages or modules such as in Debian.
> I plan to install if on a Debian Linux Box as soon as I set up Apache.
> 
> My requirements would be:
> + easy to install and more easy to configure/maintain
> + stable!
> + web accessible for the reporting.
> + possible choice of different back-end system for the DB.
> + and of course Free "as in Free Speech"
> + any security concerns would be appreciated.

My employer (OpenSales) uses debbugs.  It tends to work (unlike, say
Mailman ), has both web and email based interfaces, and seems to
do what we want it to do.  It doesn't offer much in the way of security
or authentication -- **anyone** can close a bug, which means your QA
person has to be on his/her toes.  Weekly summaries of activity and
status.

The downside -- *very* thin support.  The mailing list has something
like a dozen posts to it this year, and it's hard to raise a response.
Bugzilla seems to be more popular, though I haven't used it myself.
SourceForge uses Bugzilla IIRC.

Collab.net is in the process of setting up project support a'la
SourceForge.  I know they're doing a new version control software, not
sure what bugs stuff they're doing.  I'd look at that.


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Re: mozila eats memory - additional question

[Francesco Bochicchio]

In addition to the above post :

I have a single Mozilla windows, started recently, but if I do a 'ps' I
get 6 'processes' running ./mozilla.bin : are they threads or what ?

Ciao
-- 
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Re: Do you recomend to upgrade to Woody?

[Aaron Maxwell]

> What's the best way to downgrade from woody to potato?

I've never done it, but I think just editing /etc/apt/sources.list to
point to 'potato' instead of 'woody', then 'apt-get dist-upgrade', will do
it.  apt-get & friends just know that woody and potato are different
distributions; they don't know that one is more 'advanced' than the other.
YMMV.

Aaron

Re: Debian 2.2

[Chris Gray]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 08:36:23PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Ask book store for replacement or use it as coffee coaster.

I've found that CDs unfortunately don't make good coasters.  Now I have
a CD shaped stain on my table.  It's easier just to throw them out.
Though I have heard that microwaving them can be fun.

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: Can't get rid of kde...

[Bruce Sass]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> You might be able to find the problem by taking a look at
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdebase.postrm (or even running this by hand).
> 
> I've had success in similar situations by removing
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/*

If it is not too late...
You may want to look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdebase.list first
and delete any files listed there that are still on the system.
To be really thorough you would do "dpkg -S " to make sure no
other package contains the file you are about to delete.


later,

Bruce

Re: About Nestcape 4.75

[Rick Macdonald]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Johann Spies wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:10:00AM -0500, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:
> > To install netscape 4.75 on Potato, my sources.list must link to stable
> > o unstable version?
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free
> 
> enabled me to upgrade from 4.72 to 4.75.

OK, I added this, ran 
   apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
and it updated only netscape-base-4_1%3a4.75-2_i386.deb which is a tiny
37KB deb file. 

Did you actually get the full 4.75 installed?

...RickM...

Re: rsa and ssh

[Hubert Chan]

Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I tried as man ssh saied to login with ssh without password as:
> > ssh-genkey as remote host
> > scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:$HOME/.ssh/identity.pub $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys
> > and tried ssh remote and was prompted with a password
> > What is wrong?
> 
> Yout got it backwards.  That should have been
> 
> 
> scp ~/.ssh/identity.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.ssh/keyfile
> ssh remote
> cd .ssh
> cat keyfile >> authorized_keys

Of course, you'll have to make sure the .ssh directory exists on the other host
too.  And make sure that the .ssh directory and everything in it have the right
permissions (basically chmod go-rwx *), or else various things in ssh won't
work.

Hubert

Re: ESS1868

[Michael Smith]

Lehel Bernadt wrote:

> I have an ESS1868 too, and it's working.
> I don't use isapnp, since I'm using the default card
> config.
> My sb options are the following:
> esstype=1868 io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1
> To check these, just run the config program of the card from DOS.
> What looks strange to me is "dma 1,3". Why two 8-bit dma channels ?

I think the extra DMA is for the midi sequencer (mpu401?)

Re: Spammer by incompetence, RBL may be an option

[kmself]

list reinstated.

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 03:28:50PM -0400, Andrew Sullivan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:19:58PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > 
> > I'm finding myself with less sympathy for this argument.  Broken mailers
> > pollute the environment, and should be treated as other forms of
> > environmental pollution.  If your incompetance at selecting or
> > configuring a mailer inconveniences others, it should also inconvenience
> > you.  This provides incentive to remedy the problem.
> 
> If you're going to argue from analogy, you'll need a better one than
> this.  What you're advocating is something like death penalty for
> parking violation.  It's extremely difficult to get off the RBL (on
> purpose).  With polluters, we try to convince them to change before
> we put them in jail.  By your own analogy, pleading with the mail
> administrators is what we should do in this case.

No.  It's license suspension for driving an unsafe vehicle, reperable on
proof of correction.  Commonly known as a fix-it ticket.

After warnings, mind you.  Our friends who started this thread have
received multiple warnings.  Behavior persists.

-- 
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Re: Missing modules - system still silent

[Francesco Bochicchio]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:47:46AM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
> 
> Many thanks for the help thus far - I was clearly mixing two
> methods of kernel compilation! Now,   I've compiled the kernel
> yet again (8th try I think) and STILL the system can't find the
> modules - that is I get lots of "can't find  module" at boot
> up time. 

Can you post which modules are not found ?

> More symptoms...
> 1. In /lib/modules/2.2.17 there seem to be lots of modules and a
> modules.dep file.

Did you do 'uname --all' to be sure that you are actually running
the server 2.2.17 ?

Here is what you should have for sound in /lib/modules-2-2-17/misc 
(assuming you have a sound blaster compatible card ):

sb.o
opl3.o
uart401.o
adlib_card.o
sound.o
soundcore.o

> 2. /etc/modules contains a list of modules

In /etc/modules.conf, I have

alias char-major-14 sb
options sb irq=5 dma=1 io=0x0220 mpu_io=0x300 # your numbers may be different,OC
post_install sb /sbin/modprobe "-k" "adlib_card"
options adlib_card io=0x0388

Actually, I have these lines in a file, /etc/modules/sound, so that they
are put in /etc/modules.conf when I or the package manager run modules-update
(this is the Debian Way to write modules config, I believe ... ) 

HTH etc... etc...
> 
> Glyn M.
> 
> 
> --
 
Ciao
-- 
FB

Re: Spammer by incompetence, RBL may be an option

[Bruce Sass]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Robert Waldner wrote:
> The RBL is for spammers, that is, UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email), 
>  UBE (Unsolicited Bulk Email), also, fraud (mailbombing etc) is 
>  sometimes considered spam.

They are sending unsolicited and inappropriate messages to anyone who
posts on debian-user (and whatever other mailing lists the bozo
subscribed to)... looks to me like they are spamming a subset of
debian-user subscribers.

> It is *not* intended for misconfigured/-programmed mailers, nor a list 
>  of open relays (ORBS http://www.orbs.org/ is doing that).
> 
> Read http://maps.vix.com/rbl/candidacy.html .
> 
> So, the RBL is simply the wrong place for something like that.

Where is the right place?

> Also the RBL is used throughout the internet for *blackholing* all 
>  IP-connectivity from spammers. If you misconfigured your MTA (or 
>  simply chose a, say, "broken", one), what would you say if you were 
>  cut off from ~ 40 % of the internet, as would be the effect if you 
>  were RBLed?

I would say, `damn, I'd better fix the problem, fast!'

> I sent a (friendly) message to the postmaster at my.netvigator.com 
>  already, informing them of the problem and pointing out directions to 
>  fix it. You may want to do the same.

There are no responses from:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Maybe someone who speaks chinese could track down the advertisers on
netvigator's site (lotsa links with "ads" and "advertising" in the URLs 
there) and ask if they can put pressure on netvigator to fix things.


Another (bad, don't do it, shame on me for even thinking it) option is
to bring down their site...
they are using Netscape Enterprise Server 3.6.



later,

Bruce