Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:57:09PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:50:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear Sir/Madam > > > > Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box > > storage limit has exceeded. > > Is everyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > is it just me? I assume it will eventually be noticed by the list > admin? It's not just you, and, considering the offending mail server is broken and sending bounces to the 'From:' value instead of the envelope sender, only people who post will get bounces, not the mailing list server itself, so it will be unable to autoremove the offending address. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:03:42PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:57:09PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:50:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Dear Sir/Madam > > > > > > Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail > > > box storage limit has exceeded. > > > > Is everyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > > is it just me? I assume it will eventually be noticed by the list > > admin? > > It's not just you, and, considering the offending mail server is broken > and sending bounces to the 'From:' value instead of the envelope sender, > only people who post will get bounces, not the mailing list server > itself, so it will be unable to autoremove the offending address. and heres the procmail recipe to get rid of them once and for all: :0 * ^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpzePGwWjWop.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:18:41PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: > and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) > does red-hat have anything comparable? I think Redhat has something called rpm-update, but I have never tried it. That service you have to pay for, I think. There is something called rpm-find, which kinda works the same way as apt-get, i.e. it searches and downloads a package. Again, never tried it, so really don't know how it works. The big difference, AFAIK, is that Debian store a lot more packages. With Redhat, you can get the base install (that comes with the CD), but for the rest, you would have to go for third-party sources. Not a big deal, since when I used Redhat, I made it a habit to go to the developers website and downloaded directly. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgpdFCTlw1LlS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt & gpg
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:47:06PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > I've been looking into gpg and mutt. I read on the mutt faq to "include" > gpg.rc "with" my muttrc. Thing is I don't know what they mean "include"? > Does mutt accept #include like c++? I think they mean put the source keyword before the file name, like this: source .gpgrc > As a previous note listed I added the set pgp_autosign in the .muttrc already. I think you only need the pgp_autosign. I don't source my gpgrc file, and it seems to be working fine. Using mutt 1.2i (I think, check my x-mailer line). -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgpObGz2F6sRw.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Debian VS. Red Hat
> > and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) > > does red-hat have anything comparable? > > The big difference, AFAIK, is that Debian store a lot more packages. > With Redhat, you can get the base install (that comes with the CD), > but for the rest, you would have to go for third-party sources. > The largest difference I know of is the dependency resolution. Maybe Redhat will do this as well. It's pretty neat when I request a package and end up getting 3 dependant packages without having to individually request them. The auto download by itself is very nice. Another major difference between Redhat and Debian is this list. There are some very sharp cookies here who don't mind hanging around even though they end up answering a lot more questions than they ask. I don't know if Redhat has anything comparable. BTW. It's remarkable how similar in functionality windows update is to debian's apt-get. It is more twinkified (which isn't always bad ...) but functionally very similar. It is, of course, limited to Microsoft products. If they were smart, they offer developers support for their packages at the microsoft site. ($$$). Debian already offers this. I think this sort of updating will quickly become as expected as products as shipping on CD. At least I hope it does! OK, Rambling over!
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:05:32PM -0500, Wayne Sitton wrote: > OK guys, I think you've gotten off the subject that I needed. Although > what you have given me is great, what I need now is kind of like stories > of thing that have happened to show why Debian would be better. Or, > even links to stories about the benefits of Debian over Red Hat. Well, if you just want anecdotal evidence that Debian is better than RedHat, why not just make it up? Or better yet, just have someone write up a glowing review of Debian on linux.com or slashdot? I always found this kind of zealotry interesting. Preface: I've used RedHat for over 4 years. Just installed Debian last month, and I'm really happy with it. My take on the issue: Linux is Linux and GNU is GNU. I really don't think you can say one distribution of Linux is more secure/stable than another (better is kinda subjective, IMO). Since all distribution uses OSS, a bugfix in one package should find its way into the other distributions pretty quickly (otherwise, the whole idea of OS is a piece of crock). Ask a RedHat user which distribution s/he prefers, and s/he will say RedHat. Same with Debian or Slackware or a dusin other distribution. Besides, does a story about greatness of distribution read on a website or email really make a difference? My reading about how great Slackware is, didn't make me want to switch to it. Frustration with RedHat packagemanagement made me turn away from it, but I tested Debian for a month before I installed it on my main system (installed and reinstalled about three times a week, to get a feel for the system). Now, for something positive. The one thing that really makes me excited about Debian is the packagemanagent system. Yes, dselect has a userinterface from heck, but you can avoid it (just install the base system during installation). Quite frankly, dpkg is so great, I really don't understand why Linux users aren't pushing it harder. It is leaps and bounds better than the competition (rpm). There are no reason, except for political, for not using dpkg in all the distributions out there. That said, Linux is still Linux, and one distribution is as good as the next, IMO. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgp2paN4wx3Q6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 02:41:57AM -0400, Paul McHale wrote: > BTW. It's remarkable how similar in functionality windows update is to > debian's apt-get. It is more twinkified (which isn't always bad ...) but > functionally very similar. It is, of course, limited to Microsoft products. Indeed. I have a friend who always whacks on about how great MS is and tries to bait me by talking about how linux sucks. How was totally silenced in his baiting when I told him that Debian could, indeed, automatically get updates for his OS should he want it to. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 02:41:57AM -0400, Paul McHale wrote: > The largest difference I know of is the dependency resolution. Maybe Redhat > will do this as well. Well, I don't know how dpkg works yet, but rpm is limited by what the author wants. Sometimes it give really frustrating depencies messsages, like saying you missing libxxxedo.so.1. Of course, you don't know which package libxxxedo.so.1 is in, or where to get it because the doc, in most OSS, is non-existent or very bad. This happaned to me during installation of gnucash. I could never get it installed because a) I was missing some key libraries, b) I had no idea where they where, c) if I knew, I was unable to compile them for one reason or another. > It's pretty neat when I request a package and end up > getting 3 dependant packages without having to individually request them. > The auto download by itself is very nice. I think gnorpm and kpackage does it too, but I'm not sure, since I usually do stuff by hand (CLI). -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgpTPTg05h5NB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
That is fine for some workstations and very non-critical servers, but otherwise I would never allow cron to run apt-get and just pull down things from security.debian.org. I don't mean to impune the reputation of debian or the security patches and their writers, but on any important production system I would never allow software I had not previously tested in some way to be loaded and run. I'm trying get debian more widely used in my company, the systems we sell are a mixture of solaris, SCO, QNX, os/2 (3 soon to phased out) and even a few NT boxes (ugh). I'm not a developer for those systems, so I have little say in them, but as much as I like debian, I would really hate one of our customer's calling card system, voicemail, etc to stop working for 5 minutes while apt-get loads in an update to the SS7 server. Perhaps the weirdness of one of our progs + the update would hose the box horribly unexpected ways. For workstations and some servers I could see setting up a few sources I manage by hand, and then have cron run apt-get on them. Then as updates, etc come in, one could test them, and if it looks ok, dump it into the appropriate sources, one for manager/sales workstations, customer support workstations, one for developer workstations, and maybe 1 or 2 classes of intranet fileservers, webservers etc. Even for my boxes at home, I run it manually. I've been planning on setting up a local source or 2 like above at home for months now, but I never seem to get around to it. From: Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:18:41 -0500 On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: > I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that > even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task. > Jeff > ( A sysadmin) :) > Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat > from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive > very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping > your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:- > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin (with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like # m h dom mo dow 30 3* *1 apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) does red-hat have anything comparable? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Wierd messages during bootup...
Plus you might need to edit /etc/modules. First time I compiled certain drivers into my kernel, which had been modules, that file will then cause the kernel to load modules that no longer exist. It was pretty funny. I thought I had really screwed things up! From: "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User Subject: Re: Wierd messages during bootup... Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:49:17 -0600 On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:51:52PM -0700, Daly Gutierrez wrote: > Hi again, everyone. > > I forgot to mention that after compiling my new kernel, I now get many > modules-related error messages. If I remember correctly, I did the > following: > > make mrproper (cleaned everything right out) > make xconfig > make dep > make clean (don't know if this was really necessary, since I'd done > 'make mrproper') > make bzImage (didn't notice any errors, I don't think) > make modules > make modules_install > copied bzImage to the boot directory (renamed) and ran 'lilo' > rebooted Look into kernel-package. > I saw a whole screen-full of "*** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/" I believe this has to do with not mv'ing your /lib/modules. to /lib/modules..old before make modules (make modules_install?). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software & Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
installation problems
Howdy all! I've been having some problems installing Debian 2.2. When the installation reaches the point where it is installing the kernel from the rescue disk, it hangs and give one error message actually there are teo error messages that alternate with each further attempt. The error messages are: ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device not configured and ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy anyone have any ideas? Thanks! +--+---+ |John E. Holeman | OSU Computer Science| |754-3450 |OSU Atmospheric Science| +--+---+ |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |www.orst.edu/~holemanj|[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +--+---+ |Are you pondering what I'm pondering? | +--+
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
-Original Message- From: Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: 09 September 2000 04:17 Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat >On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: >> I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that >> even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task. >> Jeff >> ( A sysadmin) > >:) > >> Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat >> from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive >> very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping >> your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:- >> apt-get update >> apt-get upgrade > >what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin >(with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like > ># m h dom mo dow > 30 3* *1 apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade Two reasons: 1 Our customers do not arrive at nice even intervals but mainly while we have active live coverage and when the machines are busy it is a bad plan to apt-get anything. 2 Because Cron very rarely reads the messages that new install scripts write. Thus when the way that a package works has been changed I wouldn't know what it had said. At other times you actually need to decide how to respond and the option to just press "yes" may result in a machine that doesn't allow remote logins and I am 11,000 miles away from some of my servers. My brain isvery small, however my computers' brains are smaller still! > >and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) >does red-hat have anything comparable? > Even if it did since the security fixes are sometimes posted months (or in the case of one exploit attempted on one of our servers which had been blocked well over a year previously on Debian but was still viable on Red Hat) years later on Red Hat so it wouldn't be wrth doing. > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: kde or gnome?
On 5 Sep 00 19:05:33 GMT, Felix Natter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Namely, Gnome does not include its own window manager; KDE does. >> Gnome depends on hooks for Gnome support compiled into an external >> window manager, and at present the only window manager with full >> support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. > >sawfish is now called the "official" GNOME wm (although you can still change). icewm also fully supports GNOME. It's likely the lightest-weight of the three. Now, if only someone would do a MicroGUI theme for icewm... oh, silly me. Frank
console-apt and absolute paths
Hi, everytime I try to install something with console-apt (and aptitude) I get the message Package manager (dpkg) failed: * Internal Error, Pathname to install is not absolute 'bash-doc_2.03-6_all.deb' apt-get install works. Greetings Christoph
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:18:41PM -0500, Will Trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: > > I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that > > even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task. > > Jeff > > ( A sysadmin) > > :) > > > Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat > > from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive > > very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping > > your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:- > > apt-get update > > apt-get upgrade > > what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin > (with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like > > # m h dom mo dow > 30 3* *1 apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade A cronned apt-get upgrade might be a bit much, and I myself only do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --download-only". This parks updates in /var/cache/apt/archives, but doesn't install packages until requested manually by me on the command line. Because Debian packages may require manual intervention at install time (this is a Good Thing, dammit!), this still automates the tedious and slow portions of a system upgrade. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgptiuy82AWnL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > A cronned apt-get upgrade might be a bit much, and I myself only do > "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --download-only". This parks updates > in /var/cache/apt/archives, but doesn't install packages until > requested manually by me on the command line. > Now this is a good idea (though actually for webservers tthe downloading is rarely slow, except for ones in India!!!) I shall try this on a few, thanks! Jeff > Because Debian packages may require manual intervention at install time > (this is a Good Thing, dammit!), this still automates the tedious and > slow portions of a system upgrade. > > -- > Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself > Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! >http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org > GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: pppd changes permission to /dev/ttyS1 (my modem)
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, John Hasler wrote: > Piotrek writes: > > So say how it should be, but don't say me how i should do it. > > When you ask for free help on a mailing list or newsgroup you get the > answers people see fit to give you. Statements such as this just might > result in someone who could answer your questions deciding to ignore you You're right. If i didn't wrote my mail at 1 am, i think i would use other words. I read his mail once more and it looks different than yesterday (or rather todays night) But let me quote: > Debian has to be built for people who *do* care, so advice that > compromises security is not to be welcomed here For me it says sth like this: Debian is only for users who care about security, so if you don't, we don't want you here. I hope others don't think like that. This irritated me, which influenced on the tone of my post. -- Piotrek irc: #Debian.pl GPG fingerprint: 13ED DF91 6DF9 A440 2D78 F657 3579 2D3D DDBD DEFD GPG public key : http://pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl/~piotr/public.asc
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
Add to that that if you apt-move it afterwards, you can get your own partial upgrade repository (even on CD)! Jeff Green wrote: > kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > > A cronned apt-get upgrade might be a bit much, and I myself only do > > "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --download-only". This parks updates > > in /var/cache/apt/archives, but doesn't install packages until > > requested manually by me on the command line. > > > > Now this is a good idea (though actually for webservers tthe downloading > is rarely slow, except for ones in India!!!) I shall try this on a few, > thanks! > > Jeff > > > Because Debian packages may require manual intervention at install time > > (this is a Good Thing, dammit!), this still automates the tedious and > > slow portions of a system upgrade. > > > > -- > > Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself > > Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org > > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! > >http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org > > GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 > > > > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:03:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free > > > anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? > > > > An older version of MI/X? > > Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Speak softly and own a big, mean Doberman. -- Dave Millman
Re: slightly OT: short in video?
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:32:18PM -0700, Ron Farrer wrote: [video problems] > If this is the problem, what would be the best way of fix it? FYI the > video is integrated on the motherboard, so simply replacing it won't > work. :( Or is the sucker toast? A videocard onboard in a 486-system? Well, you just could get an old ISA or PCI-card and run the system with this. Maybe have to turn off the video-card in the BIOS. Phil
Re: Debian on Dell?
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:11:21PM -0500, Jay Ford wrote: > Can anybody verify that Debian runs on a Dell Precision 420? Debian runs on about everything ;) > It has an integrated dual-channel (Ultra 160 & Ultra Wide) SCSI controller. > Does Debian support it? Which vendor? > There are several video cards to choose from: > Diamond Viper V770D, 32 MB > Elsa Synergy Force > nVIDIA GeForce 2 GTS, 32MB DDR > Matrox G400 Max, 32 MB (dual monitor capable) > Gloria II Pro, AGP Pro 4x, 64 MB > Does Debian support any or all of them? I intend to do rather basic X stuff > on Linux & common PC-ish stuff on NT/Win2000. Any recommendation on which > video cards to prefer or avoid? What do you want to do with it? AFAIK the Matrox is not the first choice for playing 3D-games but great for 2D-performane (large resolutions, great signal-quality). > More fundamentally, is there a better Dell system to use for Linux & > NT/Win2000 in a home sort of context? It just depends on what you want to do with the system. I prefer building my system myself so I can pick the best components for my needs. Phil
Re: logging interaction between minicom and modem - solved
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:11:13 PST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmm, that's odd I tried to set up wvdial just now and it's saying > that > /dev/mouse is linked to ttyS0, and sure enough it does seem to could > this be causing some of my problems? Is that something that's safe to > manually unlink or is there probably some program that set that that I > should have a chat with I know I have gpm running, is that likely to > have done it? The odd thing is I don't even use a serial mouse, I use a > bus > mouse so it doesn't seem to make sense to have /dev/mouse pointing to a > serial port does it? > > anyways, if this sets off any lights or rings any bells for anyone, > please > share :) > > -Alice > yep, that was it. rm /dev/mouse and now chat's a happy camper -Alice - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com
German keys on console
To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: Reply-To: I just installed debian, potato, on a new comp. Now I cannot use the German keys "a "u "s (latex-babel notation) neither on the console nor with X. I've choosen qwertz-nodeadkeys at installation and several time with "kbdconfig". Curiously the "z" and "y" keys are changed. I thought about missing console fonts, but even on X they don't work. Thanks for any hints... Peter
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
I've received one.. s. keeling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:50:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear Sir/Madam > > > > Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box > > storage limit has exceeded. > > Is everyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > is it just me? I assume it will eventually be noticed by the list > admin? >
Re: please help updating calendar
On Sep 08, Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Their list is much more comprehensive than mine, but mine contains far >more detail. So it's worth merging them, but I'm not quite sure how >you'd like to do this. There is also the implicit assumption in their If there are no fixed events then everything should go in the yearly files. >calendar that the user is Orthodox and living outside of Israel, >neither of which need be true. Maybe we should have more than one calendar? -- ciao, Marco
exim and local MX records
Does exim have a setting similar to relay_domains_include_local_mx, but for local delivery instead of just relaying? I host services for a couple groups, and one of them now wants to augment its .org domain with the corresponding .com and .net. I, being lazy, would like to be able to set this up by just adding a few more zone files, but it's looking like I'll also have to change my exim.conf to... local_domains = localhost:sherohman.org:*.sherohman.org:foo.org:*.foo.org: bar.org:*.bar.org:bar.com:*.bar.com:bar.net:*.bar.net ...and then keep expanding it if/when I start getting other domains under my control. -- "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: kde or gnome?
Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/09/2000 (10:38) : > Read the quote again. I wrote "the only wm with _full_ support" etc. > If sawfish is "Most integrated", the others are necessarily "less > integrated", or not? I don't want the wm and the desktop to step over > each other, and that's precisely what happens with wmaker when the > wmaker frills and the desktop frills overlap. I don't know that sawfish are missing anything. Sawfish is the default WM for Gnome now and is more integrated than E. Luckily they droppped the bloated Enlightenment for something much better! > about, too. I am sure many of the wm's have better Gnome support now > in their bleeding edge versions, but I will not use them. You should use sawfish then. -- Preben Randhol - Ph.D student - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ "i too once thought that when proved wrong that i lost somehow" - i was hoping, alanis morisette
Re: kde or gnome?
Felix Natter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/09/2000 (13:02) : > Sawfish is highly scriptable via lisp, so it probably isn't fast, either. It is faster than the default Enlightenment at least. Neither does it require that you have the latest video card with Open-GL and 128Mb RAM. -- Preben Randhol - Ph.D student - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ "i too once thought that when proved wrong that i lost somehow" - i was hoping, alanis morisette
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
Jonathan Markevich said: > > Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. > > Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current > display, right? The Win32 vncserver serves the current display. (It essentially tricks Windows into thinking the remote user is sitting at the console.) The *nix vncserver functions as an X session and is not tied to the local display. -- "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: audio/x--mp3 and other associatetions
I'm pretty new to this so take my advice accordingly: In netscape you would go to edit->preferences->Navigator->applications Click on the 'Applications' selection from the menu. Click 'New' Description - MPEG URL MIMEType - audio/x-mpegurl Suffixes - m3u Select the 'Application' radio button and enter 'xmms %s' Of course be sure and substitute freeamp for xmms. Hope this helps qMark Simos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > how do I make freeamp run and play the song i double click on? > > I am not sure if this is app specific or shell/os/xdm/gdm specific > > is it much different to make mozilla open a html file? > > Thanks! > > Mark >
Re: exim and local MX records
Dave Sherohman said: > Does exim have a setting similar to relay_domains_include_local_mx, but for > local delivery instead of just relaying? > > I host services for a couple groups, and one of them now wants to augment > its .org domain with the corresponding .com and .net. I, being lazy, > would like to be able to set this up by just adding a few more zone files, > but it's looking like I'll also have to change my exim.conf to... > > local_domains = localhost:sherohman.org:*.sherohman.org:foo.org:*.foo.org: > bar.org:*.bar.org:bar.com:*.bar.com:bar.net:*.bar.net > > ...and then keep expanding it if/when I start getting other domains under my > control. Answering my own question... After digging through the exim docs, I added self = local to the lookuphost router and it seems to work. The FAQ didn't mention this option (instead saying that you should have local_hosts do a lookup in an external file if you're handling mail for many domains), so I'm a little concerned about using it. Is setting self to local a bad idea for some reason? -- "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Psion S5
I have a Psion S5 and would like to mount it on my potato box, which sould be more elegant than minicom/Comms single file ymodem transfers. p3nfsd should do, but I can't get it to work. I simply don't understand the documentation. I'm even unsure if I would have to install nfs in order to use p3nfsd or not? There is no nfsc5.app around (why?), will I have to compile it myself? I would have to get the sources and the Psion C SDK, wouldn't I? Are there any alternatives to p3nfs? Any help will be appreciated! -- Andre
hdparm
Hi, Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d be appropriate?) Thanks, Jamie
Family proofing a Debian box
This is a general question for the list. I have a computer at home that I want to make availble for the family to use. However I want to try and ensure that they won't be able to do anything that could cause damage to the OS. What is the list's thoughts regarding what should I make sure is off-limits to the users. If they don't have root, are there things that I should make off-limits that might not be on a stock Debian 2.2 system? Thanks, Bryan
Re: German keys on console
The keymap that should be loaded is /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Normally with kbdconfig you can browse through the directory of /usr/share/keymaps/ and choose the one you need. If you are using console-tools after the installation it should get your /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz (Analogously with kbd -- /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz, I think) To get a german keymap for X you you could use a tool like XF86Setup or xf86config > I just installed debian, potato, on a new comp. Now I cannot use the German > keys "a "u "s (latex-babel notation) neither on the console nor with X. I've > choosen qwertz-nodeadkeys at installation and several time with "kbdconfig". > Curiously the "z" and "y"keys are changed. sorry for that question: Did you hit "qwerty" when you were asked for "qwertz" or "qwerty"? It's a bit funny, because you must hit the wrong to get the right one ... > > Thanks for any hints... > Peter Over here are some german debian-gurus, so hopefully you problem will get solved ... A humble literary critic, enthusaistic about debian, but still only enthusiastic ... MH -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key pgpueeWOBbvZE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian for kids
Hi, Somebody would know to say me where can find information about the Debian for kids project ? I would like to install it so that my son uses Linux since small :) Thanks Leonardo Dutra Porto Alegre -RS - Brazil
a pb w/ restrict rules in diald
Hi, when i use restrict rules to make the line available from 7am to 2pm, i have this problem : the line can't be setted up beetween 7am and 2pm if u mind take a look at my /etc/diald/standard.filter file i would appreciate ... is it a bug in woody diald version ? ... i gonna feel bad in can't stoping to ask u things / till i can ask to someone else i do so :) here is my standard.filter file : (the same as previous standard.filter which works plus restrict rule (i've puted the last restrict * * * * * which wasn't there the first time i've tried - thought it was not necessary) # This is a pretty complicated set of filter rules. restrict 07:00:00 * * * * or-restrict * 02:00:00 * * * # Rules for TCP packets. # accept tcp 15 tcp.syn accept tcp 60 tcp.syn accept tcp 5 ip.tot_len=40,tcp.syn ignore tcp ip.tot_len=40,tcp.live accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.www accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.www accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.https accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.https keepup tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.https keepup tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.https keepup tcp 5 !tcp.live ignore tcp !tcp.live accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.ftp accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.ftp accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.ftp-data accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.ftp-data accept tcp 600 any # Rules for UDP packets # webmin ignore udp udp.dest=udp.1 ignore udp udp.dest=udp.who ignore udp udp.source=udp.who ignore udp udp.dest=udp.route ignore udp udp.source=udp.route ignore udp udp.dest=udp.ntp ignore udp udp.source=udp.ntp ignore udp udp.dest=udp.timed ignore udp udp.source=udp.timed ignore udp udp.dest=udp.domain,udp.source=udp.domain # acces internet (d'abord par udp : recherche de domaine) accept udp 30 udp.dest=udp.domain accept udp 30 udp.source=udp.domain # ignore udp udp.dest=udp.domain # ignore udp udp.source=udp.domain # windaub ignore udp udp.dest=udp.netbios-ns ignore udp udp.source=udp.netbios-ns ignore udp udp.dest=udp.netbios-dgm ignore udp udp.source=udp.netbios-dgm # accept udp 30 udp.dest=udp.netbios-ns # accept udp 30 udp.source=udp.netbios-ns # ignore udp tcp.dest=udp.route # ignore udp tcp.source=udp.route accept udp 120 any ignore igmp any ignore ospfigp any accept any 30 any restrict * * * * * down
Re: hdparm
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:44:15AM -0500, Jamie Raymond wrote: > Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked > upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d > be appropriate?) Perhaps /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh? Otherwise, just create your own script from /etc/init.d/skeleton and run update-rc.d. HTH Sven -- I am the "ILOVEGNU" signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
multiple SMTP servers with exim
Hello, I'd like exim to send my mail via more than one smarthost as I am using several providers and every provider has its own SMTP server that accepts mails only when logged in by `his' provider. I have tried to set route_list in /etc/exim.conf to "* first.server:second.server bydns_a" Now when I use the second provider exim first tries to send the mails via first.server and gets an error message. Instead of trying second.server exim just assumes that the mail is undeliverable. Any ideas how to solve this? Thanks, Christoph
highlight *.cc files as *.cpp in xemacs
How to get the same syntax highlight for *.cc files as for the *.cpp files (default) in XEmacs? Thanks Attila -- -- - Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian 2.2 Linux / 2.2.13 / exim- - Get my PGP key: gpg --keyserver keys.pgp.com --recv-key 0x2cc33acb -
Re: Family proofing a Debian box
"Bryan K. Walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If they don't have root, are there things that I should make > off-limits that might not be on a stock Debian 2.2 system? I don't know how technically sophisticated your family is but I assume that your sister is not a cracker and your father not a Unix-guru. Denying them root access should be fully sufficient. This works fine with my family at least - everyone has his/her own account and may play at will. Even if they were root they wouldn't know how to damage something. :-) Anyways _if_ you'd like to have a fully secure system you'd have to think about preventing them from physically accessing the system which you are unlikely to have done. If they can turn off the machine they could damage the file system for example. Christoph
Re: Debian for kids
On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, Leonardo Dutra wrote: > Hi, > > Somebody would know to say me where can find information about the Debian for > kids project ? > > I would like to install it so that my son uses Linux since small :) Maybe not exactly what you were looking for but. http://www.linuxforkids.org/ hth, kent "Neurosis is the way of avoiding non-being by avoiding being." - Paul Tillich, American theologian (1886-1965).
c++ compiler problem
I get the following error when I try to compile a short c++ program: --- c++ allvehic.cpp -o voertuig cpp: -lang-c++: linker input file unused since linking not done c++: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory - and the following error when I run configure on wxGTK-sources - checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for c++... c++ checking whether the C++ compiler (c++ ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables. -- $locate cc1plus: -- /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1plus /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus -- I could compile a kernel not so long ago and do not know what has gone wrong. I hope somebody can help me on this one. Johann. -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."James 4:7
Re: German keys on console
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:24:55PM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote: > The keymap that should be loaded is > /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz it is there: Uranus:/home/peter# ls /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de* /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1.kmap.gz /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de.kmap.gz > > Normally with kbdconfig you can browse through the directory of > /usr/share/keymaps/ and choose the one you need. thats what i have done. sveral times, with several latin-1 packages. Everytime the same: The testing works o.k. but the console doesn't want it.. > If you are using console-tools after the installation it should get your > /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz > (Analogously with kbd -- /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz, I think) It is there: Uranus:/home/peter# ls /etc/kbd/ config default.kmap.gz > To get a german keymap for X you you could use a tool like XF86Setup or > xf86config Yes, I know. I copied XF86cpnfig from an other installation with the same graf.-card + monitor and it don't work. I also have run XF86Setup again and again, nothing works. Well emacs, at least, works o.k. I don't know why... Peter
Editor for rescue disks/ floppy distros
"Everthing's the same except the name". This is a re- post, just for change of thread for reasons as below. Yes, I clean forgot that there are people on our list who are on threaded mail readers .. I posted this on the thread of "Joe editor" yesterday. Thanks Curt for reminding me. USM Bish On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:58:31AM -0500, Debian Linux User wrote: > Thanks for this post. This editor is amazing. With the subject > line of the thread I just about missed reading it, however. You > might want to make your recommendation about including it on the > rescue disks in a separate post. > > Best regards, > Curt Daugaard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:24:16PM +0518, USM Bish wrote: > > > > The "joe" editor seems to be rather popular, specially > > amongst people for whom wordstar keys have got ingrained > > in their genes. > > > > There is another editor called w3, which was introduced > > to me by some-one on this list. The URL is : > > > > http://www.sax.de/~adlibit/e3-0.7.tar.gz [82338 bytes] > > > > Have been using it for about 2 weeks now. EXCELLENT !! > > Just 4912 bytes long binary, written fully in assembly > > (nasm). Fully GPL (with source code). It is 100% Word > > Star (non-document) mode clone. Has auto-left align as > > well (remember TurboPascal 3?). > > > > It is definitely not a replacement for emacs / vi, but > > if wordstar compatibility is what you are looking for, > > this rivals "joe" any day. > > > > If an editor for rescue disks is what is you need,look > > no further. THIS IS IT. It would be difficult to find > > a smaller one with all facilites expected of an editor. > > > > USM Bish > > > > > > PS: Binary tarball with man (6080 bytes)! Private mail > > only. > >
Re: kde or gnome?
Just a small clarification sought : What exactly is meant by Gnome or KDE compliance ? Is it the capability of running Gnome or KDE apps ? I'm on fvwm2 and blackbox. I've both qt (for KDE) and necessary libs for running gnome apps installed. I am able to run kmail, kedit (and other kde packages), gedit, gxedit, balsa etc. (gnome apps) on both these window managers. I thought all window managers would, if the necessary libs are installed. I notice here confirmation of the same with sawfish and icewm. Am I wrong somewhere and there is more to it ? USM Bish On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:24:40AM +, Frank Copeland wrote: > On 5 Sep 00 19:05:33 GMT, Felix Natter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Namely, Gnome does not include its own window manager; KDE does. > >> Gnome depends on hooks for Gnome support compiled into an external > >> window manager, and at present the only window manager with full > >> support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. > > > >sawfish is now called the "official" GNOME wm (although you can still > >change). > > icewm also fully supports GNOME. It's likely the lightest-weight of the > three. Now, if only someone would do a MicroGUI theme for icewm... > oh, silly me. > > Frank >
Re: Family proofing a Debian box
On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, Christoph Groth wrote: > > If they don't have root, are there things that I should make > > off-limits that might not be on a stock Debian 2.2 system? > > I don't know how technically sophisticated your family is but I assume > that your sister is not a cracker and your father not a > Unix-guru. Denying them root access should be fully sufficient. This > works fine with my family at least - everyone has his/her own account > and may play at will. I have the same situation here. My family is far more than trustable enough to be considered "non hostile users", so I give them a regular user account. That's all there is to it. > Anyways _if_ you'd like to have a fully secure system you'd have to > think about preventing them from physically accessing the system which > you are unlikely to have done. If they can turn off the machine they > could damage the file system for example. Yup. I'd suggest you allow them to CTRL+ALT+DEL (map it to shutdown) the box at any time, no matter how annoying, it's far better than a sudden powerdown. Maybe add a 1 minute delay time (and TELL THEM ABOUT IT or they'll think it didn't work and press the power button anyway :-) ) so as you can hastly log off if you're remotely logged in... If your family qualifies as hostile users (and are not technically inept), you'll have to be paranoid about suid binaries and local root compromises, be very careful about NFS and all sort of other related headaches. You'll need to have a trusted, phisically secure machine hosting all the data (the "server"), and other machines to act as terminals... You'd be better off getting every one their own private computer, and locking yours up while not in use IMHO :-) -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh pgpbD2Dfp0FkG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: c++ compiler problem
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:58:54PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > I get the following error when I try to compile a short c++ program: > > --- > c++ allvehic.cpp -o voertuig > cpp: -lang-c++: linker input file unused since linking not done > c++: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or > directory > - > and the following error when I run configure on wxGTK-sources > - > checking for gcc... gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E > checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no > checking for c++... c++ > checking whether the C++ compiler (c++ ) works... no > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler > cannot create executables. > -- > $locate cc1plus: > -- > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1plus > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus > -- > I could compile a kernel not so long ago and do not know what has gone > wrong. The kernel is written in C, not C++, so that's irrelevant. > I hope somebody can help me on this one. Somehow your gcc installation has gotten messed up. Perhaps you compiled gcc on your own and installed it in /usr/local/bin? If so, you might want to try $ PATH=/usr/bin:$PATH ./configure # or other command which needs g++ to get the default c++ compiler. If that doesn't help, the only thing I could think of is to re-install gcc. Good luck, Chris
Re: German keys on console
> thats what i have done. sveral times, with several latin-1 packages.
> Everytime the same: The testing works o.k. but the console doesn't want it..
What does that mean?
When configuring the keymap with kbdconfig you hit "y" after the prompt to load
the german keymap and then at the shell-prompt you can't get "ä,ö..."?
> It is there:
>
> Uranus:/home/peter# ls /etc/kbd/
> config default.kmap.gz
There is always one, but has to be the right one
>
Yes, I know. I copied XF86cpnfig from an other installation with the same
graf.-card + monitor and it don't work. I also have run XF86Setup again and
again, nothing works.
>
Run XF86Setup "from scratch" and it should work
> Well emacs, at least, works o.k. I don't know why...
?
So it works?
> Peter
>
MH
PS: You could compare (diff) the default.kmap.gz I sent to you, with the old
one
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Re: PGP and Mutt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > If it helps, my .muttrc is attached. Note that I've got gpg, not pgp, > installed. I'd recommend you use the same. There is only one tag in my > muttrc which appears relevant, that's the "pgp_autosign" hook. > I've got a bit of a followup question. It's regarding verifying or decrypting signed or encrypted messages. I'm having a horrible time getting valid signatures from messages that are signed by mutt's built-in gpg/pgp support. Say I'm using one of the many mailers that doesn't support gpg integration, so I need to save the message and key to disk and use gpg manually to check the signatures. What parts of the message are signed, though??? for example, in Karsten's email, there were 3 message sections: the text, the attached .muttrc, and the gpg sig. So I save the message and key to my home dir, download the key, and run gpg on the key. It asks me for the file name, which I provide. To this it responds that they signature is invalid. I've been trying to send myself signed message with the same results. I've read mutt's included docs, which didn't help me at all. Have you got any suggestions??? I must say, the old style of handling pgp/gpg with the inline sigs and stuff worked much better for me. What are the advantages of sending the key as an attachment instead of inline? Thanks... noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObpsDodCcpBjGWoFAQEv/AQAtwYw0E+lXozbIPzhjzJ5/wjfDqt5OkWA 1zNCpjeYxdapUKM9X6AKeN0BzCIurmGK+V2ML4qGrdoR06cJzemn72EenMCOiFkj H1DvBtyDDb0IKtUpzZFfpmGfDUoRihqW1hMh3lCTFAN9NVbH1m4z23x7WFjnPChr xi6V8F4yfEM= =att+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: hdparm
I worried about this too a few days ago and came to the conclusion that adding a line to an existing script might be unreliable, since package installations may replace said script.. so I added my own script. I then put this script in /etc/rc.boot/, a directory whose infinite mysteries I have yet to explore. -chris On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Sven Burgener wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:44:15AM -0500, Jamie Raymond wrote: > > Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked > > upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d > > be appropriate?) > > Perhaps /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh? Otherwise, just create your own script > from /etc/init.d/skeleton and run update-rc.d. > > HTH > Sven > -- >I am the "ILOVEGNU" signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. > This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
/etc/rc.boot
What's the story with /etc/rc.boot/? Is it deprecated? Is it good? Should its files be run by /etc/inittab via /etc/rcS? The contents of my /etc/rc.boot: 0setserial* hdparm* kbd* update-modules* -chris
how to turn off auto-fill-mode in XEmacs21?
Hi, I'd like to turn off the line wrappping (xemacs truncates the long lines at the end of line). I think this is the variable 'auto-fill-mode' but I can't turn it off. How to turn it off? If it possible send me a working .emacs file for XEmacs21. Thanks Attila -- -- - Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian 2.2 Linux / 2.2.13 / exim- - Get my PGP key: gpg --keyserver keys.pgp.com --recv-key 0x2cc33acb -
Re: German keys on console
Dear Vee-Eye, On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:05:14PM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote: > > thats what i have done. sveral times, with several latin-1 packages. > > Everytime the same: The testing works o.k. but the console doesn't want it.. > > > What does that mean? > When configuring the keymap with kbdconfig you hit "y" after the prompt to > load the german keymap and then at the shell-prompt you can't get "ä,ö..."? Yes, at the time where the "testing" section works... Here is the output: What keytable to load? de-latin1-nodeadkeys You selected keymap /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Sorry, I can't make you test this keymap now (showkey does not accept --keymap). NOTE: Answering anything else than 'y', 'n', or RETURN will reload the kernel's default keymap. Do you accept the chosen map for installation ? [y] Removing removing /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz Generating include-less /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Saving keymap to /tmp/fileBXdCb5 Loading /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Loading /tmp/fileBXdCb5 Compressing /etc/kbd/default.kmap: 79.2% -- replaced with /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz Do you want changes to take effect right now ? [y] Loading /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz ...but nothing works. > There is always one, but has to be the right one I think it is the right map.. > Run XF86Setup "from scratch" and it should work I've done it. I really don't know why it doesn't work.. > So it works? Within emacs yes, at an ordinary xterm, no. The same under the console. when is start emacs i can use "öäü" (i'm writing currently with emacs), but within the console--nothing. I think I need somethink like the emacs20: "set-buffer-process-coding-system" Thanks for everything Peter
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:41:06AM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > What's the story with /etc/rc.boot/? Is it deprecated? Is it good? Taken from "man rc.boot": [snip] The /etc/rc.boot directory is obsolete. It has been super seded by the /etc/rcS.d directory. At boot time, first the /etc/rcS.d directory is scanned and then, for backwards compatibility, the /etc/rc.boot directory. [snip] > Should its files be run by /etc/inittab via /etc/rcS? I suggest you place your scripts in /etc/init.d/ and run update-rc.d to create the appropriate links. ** Now I have a question: ** How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? When I do ":r! man blabla" in vi, I get funny characters at some places. Using man's --ascii option didn't help. Sven -- I can't be wrong, my modem's got error-correction.
X won't start
Just installed 2.2 when it boots it looks like xfs and xdm both start up. When I type startx I get. x: exec of /usr/bin/x11/xf86_svfg failed. I used xf86config to build a config file this is a Diamond Viper 770 and I used the card definition that came with x. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Ray
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 06:30:18 -0700, Dale Morris wrote: >I've received one.. Me too. Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain.
LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Can anybody shed some light on the error message above? I get it whenever I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive. The only change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new kernel. The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and can boot with no trouble. Here are some details: SCSI controller ID is 7 sda SCSI id 0 all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions hdb is an IDE CDROM so...what is the "first disk"? The system used to boot from /dev/sda just fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second network card I added. TIA for the help. noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObqF8IdCcpBjGWoFAQHmOwQAi5WMC8sRz4FzFCSLlCuDIYsHlpNo+bfE gpRFPMycllWsd4y7dSSTC4Sd8/8/2pJX58FjI/n/zqiBLVLydS0fUGwg0druT+0j 8GNbGoztDrXBxha23nUFOJ8DXfbKDjkcyd7Za1GywqHwAORcS2owfpHO5uQH3Xze EecmtT0vNPU= =UxCh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
This is going to suck before they fix this. :) -- Original Message -- From: "Cam Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Cam Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 11:52:28 +0800 >On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 06:30:18 -0700, Dale Morris wrote: > >>I've received one.. > >Me too. > > >Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain. > > > > > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Compile issue with linux-2.4.0-test8 and gcc 2.95.2-14
I sent this one off to the linux-kernel email list as well, but figured that since Debian is the environment I work in, I'd let you have a crack at it. Suggestions? -- ^chewie - Forwarded message from ^chewie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:23:12 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: ^chewie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Compile issue with test8 and gcc 2.95.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Fingerprint: FABB FE1C E1CD 4DE2 C504 2657 A47E 57BB 37B0 59A0 Actually, I've been having a problem compiling the kernel ever since test7 (test6 compiled fine for me). The errors I see include both segfaults (which I thought might be memory related, but alas no), and the folling "parse" error: -- ...snip from make bzImage... -- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=k6 -fno-strict-aliasing-DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c pm.c In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:189, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:5, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:15, from pm.c:23: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/semaphore.h:98: parse error before character 0177 make[2]: *** [pm.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2 -- Another parse error happens when I try to continue on by re-exec'ing 'make bzImage'... -- ...snip from make bzImage run 2... -- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=k6 -fno-strict-aliasing-c -o user.o user.c In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/fs.h:609, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/binfmts.h:5, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sched.h:9, from user.c:13: /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sysv_fs_sb.h:20: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sysv_fs_sb.h:20: parse error before character 0177 /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sysv_fs_sb.h:68: parse error before `}' In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/binfmts.h:5, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sched.h:9, from user.c:13: /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/fs.h:656: field `sysv_sb' has incomplete type make[2]: *** [user.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2 -- They don't seem related, but I could find no hidden characters in the header files and could find no syntax errors at first and second glance. I downloaded linux-2.4.0-test8.tar.gz and ..tar.gz.sign earlier this morning and verified the tarball with the signature (success). I'm a bit baffled. I've rarely had problems compiling a kernel, but this is one I can't get past. I'm using Debian's woody dist with gcc 2.95.2-14. On a whim, before I sent this email off, I tried to compile the kernel w/o optimization (I deleted -O2 from Makefile). This is the error I ran in to: -- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include -g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=k6 -fno-strict-aliasing-fno-omit-frame-pointer -c -o sched.o sched.c sched.c: In function `schedule': sched.c:649: Invalid `asm' statement: sched.c:649: fixed or forbidden register 6 (bp) was spilled for class GENERAL_REGS. make[2]: *** [sched.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2 -- Might this have something to do with it? -- Chad "^chewie, gunnarr" Walstrom <[EMAIL
Where/what is net-pf-18?
I got this error message in syslog: Can't locate module net-pf-18. Anyone know what this is? Would it have something to do with the fact that I cannot ping my kids' machine any more? (nor vice versa, even though ping seems to work within both systems. TIA Cam Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain.
Re: LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
"Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Can anybody shed some light on the error message above? I get it whenever > I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive. The only > change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new > kernel. The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and > can boot with no trouble. > > Here are some details: > SCSI controller ID is 7 > sda SCSI id 0 > all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging > > hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions > hdb is an IDE CDROM > > so...what is the "first disk"? The system used to boot from /dev/sda just > fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second > network card I added. > > TIA for the help. > noah /dev/hda is the first disk. to boot off of /dev/sda you need to probably reconfigure your BIOS or something to do it, or install LILO to the MBR on /dev/hda. i had a similar configuration on a BP6, boot drive was SCSI but i had IDE and LILO gave the same message, but i had the bios configured to boot from the scsi so there was no trouble. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 02:48:02PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > Can anybody shed some light on the error message above? I get it whenever > I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive. The only > change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new > kernel. The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and > can boot with no trouble. > > Here are some details: > SCSI controller ID is 7 > sda SCSI id 0 > all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging > > hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions > hdb is an IDE CDROM > > so...what is the "first disk"? The system used to boot from /dev/sda just > fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second > network card I added. The BIOS (which LILO uses to load the kernel) numbers disks as 0x80 for the first drive and 0x81 for the second. The catch with a mixed scsi/ide setup is that the "SCSI BIOS" inserts itself into the call chain and fondles those numbers (usually) so that the SCSI drive is the first drive from the BIOS perspective, even if Linux can't see it. So you have to convince LILO of two things: 1) it should write the boot loader to the SCSI drive 2) it should ask the BIOS to load from device 0x80 (which should be the scsi drive). You do this in lilo.conf: disk = /dev/sda bios = 0x80 -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: hdparm
The package hwtools installs a script at /etc/init.d/hwtools, which is where I invoke hdparm from. I think the default script, when installed, has a commented out section for hdparm. Tom Jamie Raymond wrote: > > Hi, > > Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked > upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d > be appropriate?) > > Thanks, > Jamie
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? > When I do ":r! man blabla" in vi, I get funny characters at some places. > > Using man's --ascii option didn't help. You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. Christoph
Re: Compile issue with linux-2.4.0-test8 and gcc 2.95.2-14
You probably already know this but, apparently the recommended gcc for compiling 2.4.0-test* is 2.7.2.3. I did see something like "gcc 2.95 may give problems" in one of the readme files in the kernel sources. -chris ^chewie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I sent this one off to the linux-kernel email list as well, but > figured that since Debian is the environment I work in, I'd let you > have a crack at it. Suggestions? >
Re: PGP and Mutt
Brian and others, thanks for the replys, I guess I can't solve all without reading:) On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:09:34PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 03:21:58AM +0200, Carel Fellinger wrote: > > now I get the following error message once I open a signed mail: > > > >[-- PGP output follows (current time: Sat Sep 9 03:17:03 2000) --] > >Signature by unknown keyid: 0x55F2B9B0 > > You need to get the key for that key id. GNUPG has an option to > autofetch unknown keys. > > >This signature applies to another message > > That's normal: it means the signature is detached (as in multi-part). I see. This was the one that worried me the most and ment the least. Now trying to fill my keyrings... -- groetjes, carel
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Christoph Groth wrote: > Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? > > When I do ":r! man blabla" in vi, I get funny characters at some places. > > Using man's --ascii option didn't help. > You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type > M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . Aaargh. This box is a p90 with little RAM. I want no GUI, nothing fancy, nothing bloaty. ;-) Besides I never used *Emacs, so that would take me some time to get into. Also, I like vi and don't need / want anything new now. > Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. Thanks Sven -- "We will run this with the same kind of openness we have run Windows," Steve Ballmer on their .net service
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. > > Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. Well you can do something like this: 13:27:57$ zcat man.1.gz | nroff -man > ~/tmp/woo but this still puts funky characters in the output file.. Maybe man nroff first.. outside of vi, of course, heh. -chris
kernel 2.4.0-test7
I upgraded from potato to woody and installed the newest kernel. However, when I boot from the new kernel, it locks up when it tries to start inetd. If I try to boot the old kernel, there are no problems. Does anyone know what this could be? luke
informazioni
SPETT.LE DEBIAN MI SONO CONNESSO ALL'FTP PER SCARICARE IL VOSTRO SISTEMA OPERATIVO... MA NON SO QUALI FILES SCARICARE. PREMETTO CHE DI LINUX NON SO ASSOLUTAMENTE PARLARE, ANCHE SE VOGLIO ADDENTRARMI IN QUESTO MONDO. IN FTP HO TROVATO: dists doc indices project tools IS-IR. IS-IR.gz IS-IR.patch.gz README.non-US README README.pgp README.mirrors.html README.mirrors.txt README.CD-manufacture considerando che io abbia un hardware completamente "vergine" con hard-disk vuoto... cosa devo scaricare per potere lavorare? esiste anche un'interfaccia grafica? In attesa di una vostra risposta, ringrazio e invio cordiali saluti, Ercole Francavilla
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 01:29:32PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. > > > > Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. > > Well you can do something like this: > > 13:27:57$ zcat man.1.gz | nroff -man > ~/tmp/woo That seems to do a fine job. I cannot find a documentation of that "-man" parameter anywhere. Where would that be? (checked the man page of *roff) Regards Sven -- "We will run this with the same kind of openness we have run Windows," Steve Ballmer on their .net service
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
Oh haha, the parameter is actually called "-m" ("macro"), the "an" is an
argument to the parameter. -chris
> That seems to do a fine job. I cannot find a documentation of that
> "-man" parameter anywhere. Where would that be? (checked the man
> page of *roff)
>
Re: informazioni
My italian is bad but maybe this will help you: http://www.debian.org/international/Italian -chris
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:12:40PM +0200, thus spake Sven Burgener: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Christoph Groth wrote: > > Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? > > > When I do ":r! man blabla" in vi, I get funny characters at some places. > > > Using man's --ascii option didn't help. > > > You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type > > M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . > > Aaargh. This box is a p90 with little RAM. I want no GUI, nothing fancy, > nothing bloaty. ;-) > Besides I never used *Emacs, so that would take me some time to get > into. Also, I like vi and don't need / want anything new now. > > > Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. > > Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. > OK. The trick is to get "man" to output in PostScript format: man -t will do it. Then use the utility "psnup" (one of the GNU pstools package.). It will print two or more pages of the man output onto one page, thus saving some paper. man -t fetchmail | psnup -2 | lpr will print out your fetchmail man pages with two 'pages' to a sheet. HTH Glyn M -- ** * "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. " * * Douglas Hoftstatder* **
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:52:15AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:03:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > > The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free > > > > anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? > > > > > > An older version of MI/X? > > > > Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. > > Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current > display, right? See other followups. Actually, if you had locally served X apps, you could display them to the remote (Linux) VNC session, then display them locally via VNC viewer. Remember: X is a networked windowing system . -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpI8fhzDVsau.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Christoph Groth wrote: > Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? > > When I do ":r! man blabla" in vi, I get funny characters at some places. > > > > Using man's --ascii option didn't help. > > You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type > M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . > > Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. How about 'man -t blabla |lpr' -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
Re: c++ compiler problem
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:49:16PM -0400, Chris Gray wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:58:54PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > > I get the following error when I try to compile a short c++ program: > > > > --- > > c++ allvehic.cpp -o voertuig > > cpp: -lang-c++: linker input file unused since linking not done > > c++: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or > > directory > Somehow your gcc installation has gotten messed up. Perhaps you > compiled gcc on your own and installed it in /usr/local/bin? If so, you > might want to try ... > to get the default c++ compiler. If that doesn't help, the only thing I > could think of is to re-install gcc. Re-installing gcc and g++ solved the problem. Thanks. Johann -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."James 4:7
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 11:41:32PM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: > OK. The trick is to get "man" to output in PostScript format: > man -t will do it. > > Then use the utility "psnup" (one of the GNU pstools package.). > It will print two or more pages of the man output onto one page, > thus saving some paper. > > man -t fetchmail | psnup -2 | lpr > > will print out your fetchmail man pages with two 'pages' to a > sheet. Thanks for the tip. Also thanks to all who replied with something similar. I will keep it for later reference, but I was merely interested in getting the contents of a manual page in plain text, so that I can can quote something from a man page when I compose a mail with mutt / vim. "zcat /path/to/man/page.gz | nroff -man" seems to do what I want. If there's anything better / simpler, I'd like to hear about it. :) Thanks to all Sven
Re: Q: 'outputting' manpages
Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ** Now I have a question: ** > > How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? > When I do ":r! man blabla" in vi, I get funny characters at some places. > > Using man's --ascii option didn't help. If you really want to print the contents: groff -mandoc -s -t -Tps foo.1 > foo.ps If you want the contents of the file as marked up text: man foo > foo.out or, equivalently groff -mandoc -s -t -Tascii foo.1 > foo.txt This however has some problems as you found out. The reason is that the output has backspace characters which many pagers use to show bold and underlined characters. For example, to make the pager show a bold 'x', the output of 'man' would be 'x^Hx', and an underlined 'x' would be output as '_^Hx'. The pagers interpret these and show bold and underlined characters. You can tell the output generator not to output the "overstrike" characters. Here's how: groff -mandoc -t -s -Tascii -P-u -P-b -P-o foo.1 > foo.txt - Hari -- Raja R Harinath -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When all else fails, read the instructions." -- Cahn's Axiom "Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing." -- Roy L Ash
RE: German keys on console
That's got nothing to do with the keymap (which is fine.) Two things are important: 1) in /etc/inputrc set 'convert-meta off' must be uncommented (it maybe by default in 2.2r1, it wasn't in tc3. The metakey still works fine, BTW) 2) The environment variable 'LANG' must be set to, i.e., 'de_DE', which also lets LC_CTYPE(the culprit) LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY LC_MESSAGES default to 'de_DE'. If you're like me you'll like to override at least LC_MESSAGES back to 'en_US'. HTH Christian > -Original Message- > From: Peter Malewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 4:45 PM > To: Debian-user > Subject: German keys on console > > > To: > Cc: > Bcc: > Subject: > Reply-To: > I just installed debian, potato, on a new comp. Now I cannot use > the German keys "a "u "s (latex-babel notation) neither on the > console nor with X. I've choosen qwertz-nodeadkeys at > installation and several time with "kbdconfig". Curiously the "z" > and "y" keys are changed. I thought about missing console fonts, > but even on X they don't work. > > Thanks for any hints... > Peter
Re: please help updating calendar
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 03:11:48PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 08, Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Their list is much more comprehensive than mine, but mine contains far > >more detail. So it's worth merging them, but I'm not quite sure how > >you'd like to do this. There is also the implicit assumption in their > If there are no fixed events then everything should go in the yearly > files. Absolutely! For the time being, you can remove the constant one. But it would still be nice to merge them. > >calendar that the user is Orthodox and living outside of Israel, > >neither of which need be true. > Maybe we should have more than one calendar? The differences are sufficiently minor for this not to be a real issue. (Just have a suitable note "for diaspora Orthodoxy" where relevant.) Would you like me to work on merging the two versions? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/
webcache/port 8080
I've been getting webcache connection attempts showing up in my logs for the last couple days, always from the same IP. So I got sick of it and sent him a nastygram and, in the process of composing it, tried telnetting to port 8080 on the machine in question. I connected. The only response I was able to get out of it (not knowing the appropriate protocol to pretend I was a cache client) was: --- Cache Error! An error of type 400 occurred: Invalid Scheme Generated by 1.3.1 --- I'm rather disturbed by the software's failure to identify itself beyond a version number. `fuser -n tcp 8080` says that nobody's using the port, even when I've got a telnet session open to it. Neither squid nor wwwoffle is installed and there's no mention of port 8080 (or webcache) in my inetd, apache, or portsentry configs. In the process of investigating this, my server stopped accepting connections on port 8080, which leads me to suspect that it may have been portsentry accepting the connections (although it's version 1.0-1.4, not 1.3.1). Just to be safe, I've added "webcache: ALL" to hosts.deny, but I'd like to know who is (or was) listening there. Where should I look next when fuser doesn't see anything? (And are there any known exploits, trojans, etc. that would display these symptoms?) -- "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
matroxfb.o module
Hi, Does anyone know how to pass the "video=..." argument to the matroxfb module? I have tried the following: options matroxfb video=matrox:vesa:0x1BB and then some variations of that. Every time I try to do this the matroxfb module complains that "param_video" is a non-valid argument. Does anyone know how to do this properly? I am assuming I can't send the 'video=...' line by means of lilo because the matroxfb is a module and not compiled into the kernel. thanks. = --- Academia is a little like child | Parrish M. Myers rearing, it provides a chance at | The Wacked Jester immortality without the stretch | [EMAIL PROTECTED] marks -- (unknown source)| --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
kernel update?
I just did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt downloaded the kernel2.2.17 sources. I've been running 2.2.16 because I had some trouble with the 2.2.17 kpkg that I set up. Question is, did apt configure 2.2.17 kernel to be the one that executes when I reboot? If so will it have configured my modules and settings correctly? -- thanks dale
Re: webcache/port 8080
what i do in situations like this is run lsof | grep LISTEN or lsof | grep 8080 or lsof | grep LISTEN | grep 8080 nate Dave Sherohman wrote: > > I've been getting webcache connection attempts showing up in my logs for the > last couple days, always from the same IP. So I got sick of it and sent him > a nastygram and, in the process of composing it, tried telnetting to port > 8080 on the machine in question. > > I connected. > > The only response I was able to get out of it (not knowing the appropriate > protocol to pretend I was a cache client) was: > > --- > Cache Error! > An error of type 400 occurred: Invalid Scheme > > Generated by 1.3.1 > --- > > I'm rather disturbed by the software's failure to identify itself beyond a > version number. > > `fuser -n tcp 8080` says that nobody's using the port, even when I've got a > telnet session open to it. Neither squid nor wwwoffle is installed and > there's no mention of port 8080 (or webcache) in my inetd, apache, or > portsentry configs. > > In the process of investigating this, my server stopped accepting connections > on port 8080, which leads me to suspect that it may have been portsentry > accepting the connections (although it's version 1.0-1.4, not 1.3.1). > > Just to be safe, I've added "webcache: ALL" to hosts.deny, but I'd like to > know who is (or was) listening there. Where should I look next when fuser > doesn't see anything? (And are there any known exploits, trojans, etc. that > would display these symptoms?) > > -- > "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist > "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton > Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ > !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+ > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webcache/port 8080
Nate Amsden said: > what i do in situations like this is run > > lsof | grep LISTEN > > or lsof | grep 8080 > > or lsof | grep LISTEN | grep 8080 Thanks for the reminder... I knew there was another fuser-like command, but couldn't remember its name. It agrees with fuser, though - grepping for 8080 or webcache turns up nothing. (LISTEN gets me a nice long list of inted and portsentry references, though...) What are the odds I was cracked and someone put in a trojan daemon with the brains to figure out when it's been detected and shut itself down? *shudder* -- "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote: > /dev/hda is the first disk. to boot off of /dev/sda you need to > probably reconfigure your BIOS or something to do it, or install LILO to > the MBR on /dev/hda. Yeah, I actually did that before I received this email, but after I asked the original question. It works fine, as expected. Now, of course, I'm left wondering *why* is this the case? I truly made *no* BIOS changes. I had beed using boot=/dev/sda for over a year with no problems at all. It's just when I added a new network card that this happened. I suppose it's more a mater of curiosity at this point than anything else, since boot=/dev/hda works. It's still very weird, though. noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObrFjodCcpBjGWoFAQFiPgP/erWWw4qdf2dnSYLzFIVEA56c5s+roR8O dAJbHZ5TIa82kbIgpWoL++Bm400ObPL7sEHX/RMMyT6OA8e6ZXpXLApU3kee64CN QZH9Zj9gnI9AWOPZv/7iCs7qvPYqHQV4MAY9XUsY6GRqd111XLe4WMWSHjLOY2Ys JhTMucIjPxE= =i4HR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
> > > > > The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free > > > > > anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? > > > > > > > > An older version of MI/X? > > > > > > Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. > > > > Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current > > display, right? > > See other followups. Actually, if you had locally served X apps, you > could display them to the remote (Linux) VNC session, then display them > locally via VNC viewer. Remember: X is a networked windowing system > . Man, I have GOT to try this... I experimented quite a bit with the Win32 server (see my ludicrous experimentation at http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich/doorstop.html). Man, after using Linux for pushing 7 years I keep forgetting how *cool* it really is. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == An idealist is one who helps the other fellow to make a profit. -- Henry Ford
Re: matroxfb.o module
On Saturday, 09 September 2000 at 16:02, Parrish M Myers wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to pass the "video=..." argument to the matroxfb > module? I have tried the following: > > options matroxfb video=matrox:vesa:0x1BB > > and then some variations of that. Every time I try to do this the > matroxfb module complains that "param_video" is a non-valid argument. > Does anyone know how to do this properly? a quick look at /usr/src/linux/drivers/matrox/matroxfb_base.c (in 2.4.0-test8) indicates you should be able to do: options matroxfb vesa=0x1BB > I am assuming I can't send the 'video=...' line by means of lilo > because the matroxfb is a module and not compiled into the kernel. right. -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgp4R711bMcY5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: installation problems
Can you provide more context? I'm not sure exactly where in the installation this is (I don't have to reinstall Debian regularly ), or if your system is *entirely* nonresponsive. Have you tried switching to another virtual console? On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:35:25AM -0700, Screwy Squirrel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Howdy all! I've been having some problems installing Debian 2.2. > When the installation reaches the point where it is installing the kernel > from the rescue disk, it hangs and give one error message actually > there are teo error messages that alternate with each further attempt. The > error messages are: > ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device not configured > and > ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy > > anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks! > > +--+---+ > |John E. Holeman | OSU Computer Science| > |754-3450 |OSU Atmospheric Science| > +--+---+ > |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > |www.orst.edu/~holemanj|[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > +--+---+ > |Are you pondering what I'm pondering? | > +--+ > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgp7cKiHMPrRg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: matroxfb.o module
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:33:02PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: > On Saturday, 09 September 2000 at 16:02, Parrish M Myers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know how to pass the "video=..." argument to the matroxfb > > module? I have tried the following: > > > > options matroxfb video=matrox:vesa:0x1BB > > > > and then some variations of that. Every time I try to do this the > > matroxfb module complains that "param_video" is a non-valid argument. > > Does anyone know how to do this properly? > > a quick look at /usr/src/linux/drivers/matrox/matroxfb_base.c (in > 2.4.0-test8) indicates you should be able to do: > > options matroxfb vesa=0x1BB > > > I am assuming I can't send the 'video=...' line by means of lilo > > because the matroxfb is a module and not compiled into the kernel. > > right. I've never had luck with compiling it as a module and not using fbset. If this works for you, let me know. Perhaps this is only available in 2.4.x ? -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
xpilot - rplay - no sound
Hi, I have installed the latest stable xpilot rplay client debian
package version 4.1.0-4.U.4.
I cant get any sound.
I have not configured rplay, or xpilot, in any way.
I can play all the individual sounds in /usr/share/games/xpilot/sound,
using rplay and rptp.
When the client starts, it emits the message:
Directing sound to: localhost
When I do an strace on xpilot, It is obvious that it opens the sound
config file:
open("/usr/share/games/xpilot/sounds", O_RDONLY) = 6
However there does not appear to be any indication that it is opening
any of the sound files, from the
strace, that I can see anyway.
Re: ClassyTcl
> Hello the List: > > Has anybody installed this package? > [03:06:24 /tmp]$ grep-available -i ClassyTCL [03:06:41 /tmp]$ Does it has a deb? What does it do? > Thanks, > Bill Barnes > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: Socks and apt/dselect
>
> I have dante installed, my system is sockafied, but i can't apt-get
> doesn't seem to care for socks. In reading debbugs, it would appear that
> jason isn't too interested in fixing support for that. Which is a pain,
> as socks is very usefull, and is in very wide use.
I do not know what your network setup is. However I am behind a firewall and
the following is able to path it:
[03:11:20 /tmp]$ grep -A23 Acquire /etc/apt/apt.conf
Acquire
{
// HTTP method configuration
http
{
Proxy "http://Proxy.israsrv.net.il:8080";;
Timeout "120";
};
// FTP method configuration
ftp
{
Proxy "ftp://Proxy.israsrv.net.il:8080";;
Timeout "120";
/* Passive mode control, proxy, non-proxy and per-host. Pasv mode
is prefered if possible */
Passive "true";
Proxy::Passive "true";
};
};
[03:11:26 /tmp]$
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> shaya potter
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> > >
> > > How can one use Socks and apt/dselect together? It doesn't seem that apt
> > > or dselect/apt are socksifiable. Has anyone managed to get this
> > > working?
> >
> > I think there is a library around (don't remember how is called) for
> > socks. You have to setup then some environment variables and I think
> > it might work. Try: apt-cache pkgnames | grep "socks"
> > and see which packages appere.
> >
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Phone-answering software?
Is there any software available for Linux that can intercept phone calls (to a phone that's connected to a modem), and... 1) Serve as an answering machine when the modem isn't in use, and/or 2) Inform me when I'm on-line and there's an incoming call? Any help would be appreciated, since I'm going to have to cut down to one phone line. Generally I'm either not home, or home and using my modem, but people need to be able to get in touch with me. Tom
Re: matroxfb.o module
Thanks! It worked. Here is the method I used... in /etc/modutils/ I made a file named: matroxfb the information I included in it was: options matroxfb pixclock=1 left=170 right=70 upper=21 lower=11 hslen=96 vslen=15 xres=1024 yres=768 depth=24 #options matroxfb vesa=0x1BB mind you the first 2 lines are suppose to be one long line... didn't know how double lines would work :) I then ran the command 'update-modules' and rebooted. Blamo! it worked. Thanks all for the help on this one Guys. Parrish Myers --- "Eric G . Miller" wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:33:02PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: > > On Saturday, 09 September 2000 at 16:02, Parrish M Myers wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does anyone know how to pass the "video=..." argument to the > matroxfb > > > module? I have tried the following: > > > > > > options matroxfb video=matrox:vesa:0x1BB > > > > > > and then some variations of that. Every time I try to do this > the > > > matroxfb module complains that "param_video" is a non-valid > argument. > > > Does anyone know how to do this properly? > > > > a quick look at /usr/src/linux/drivers/matrox/matroxfb_base.c (in > > 2.4.0-test8) indicates you should be able to do: > > > > options matroxfb vesa=0x1BB > > > > > I am assuming I can't send the 'video=...' line by means of lilo > > > because the matroxfb is a module and not compiled into the > kernel. > > > > right. > > I've never had luck with compiling it as a module and not using > fbset. > If this works for you, let me know. Perhaps this is only available > in > 2.4.x ? > > -- > /bin/sh ~/.signature: > Command not found > > > = --- Academia is a little like child | Parrish M. Myers rearing, it provides a chance at | The Wacked Jester immortality without the stretch | [EMAIL PROTECTED] marks -- (unknown source)| --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Weird messages after kernel compiling...
Hi again, everyone.I forgot to mention that after compiling my new kernel, I now get manymodules-related error messages. If I remember correctly, I did thefollowing:make mrproper (cleaned everything right out)make xconfigmake depmake clean (don't know if this was really necessary, since I'd done'make mrproper')make bzImage (didn't notice any errors, I don't think)make modulesmake modules_installcopied bzImage to the boot directory (renamed) and ran 'lilo'rebootedI saw a whole screen-full of "*** Unresolved symbols in/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/"I noticed that most of them were modules that I don't use anyway, so Ididn't care too much about it. It did, however, include "sound.o", andI believe I'll be needing that one.QUESTION: Did I mess up during the kernel re-compile? If so, is therea way to get rid of these messages?By the way, when I type "depmod -a", I get the same list of"Unresolved..." error messages.
RE: ClassyTcl
Have not found a deb for ClassyTcl. I'm running 2.2 woody and have problems compiling the source. ClassyTcl looks like a robust GUI builder. Installed the Windoze binary to evaluate it, but only interested in Linux version. >= Original Message From Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> Hello the List: >> >> Has anybody installed this package? >> > > >[03:06:24 /tmp]$ grep-available -i ClassyTCL >[03:06:41 /tmp]$ >Does it has a deb? What does it do? > > >> Thanks, >> Bill Barnes >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > >-- > >-- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: kernel update?
Dale Morris wrote: > > I just did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt downloaded the > kernel2.2.17 sources. I've been running 2.2.16 because I had some > trouble with the 2.2.17 kpkg that I set up. > > Question is, did apt configure 2.2.17 kernel to be the one that executes when > I reboot? If so will it have configured my modules and settings correctly? -- I've been out of the loop as far as Debian is concerned but I doubt that apt-get upgrade installs a new new kernel for you. At any rate you can check which kernel your running with-- uname -a hth, kent -- "Neurosis is the way of avoiding non-being by avoiding being." - Paul Tillich, American theologian (1886-1965).
