On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:18:41PM -0500, Will Trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote:
> > I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that
> > even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task.
> > Jeff
> > ( A sysadmin)
> 
> :)
> 
> > Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat
> > from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive
> > very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping
> > your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:-
> > apt-get update
> > apt-get upgrade
> 
> what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin
> (with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like
> 
> # m h  dom mo  dow
>  30 3    * *    1  apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade

A cronned apt-get upgrade might be a bit much, and I myself only do
"apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --download-only".  This parks updates
in /var/cache/apt/archives, but doesn't install packages until
requested manually by me on the command line.  

Because Debian packages may require manual intervention at install time
(this is a Good Thing, dammit!), this still automates the tedious and
slow portions of a system upgrade.

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