Re: compiling a kernel

[ktb]

On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Mark Simos wrote:
> I am a newbie, and am curious as to what exactly compiling a kernel does
> for me.
> 
> I have some vague impression that it does something like make your OS
> run better on your machine or allow you to add in and remove support for
> stuff.
> 
> Simply put, why?
> 
> Any pointer to good documents or personal commentary is appreciated.

You can select services that might not be offered by the default
kernel, such as sound support.  It makes you boot time shorter if you
trim out what you don't need.  You can pick your cpu type which
should optimize things a bit.  

Install the kernel source and kernel packages.  Read the docs there if
you decide to compile.
hth,
kent

Re: How to get proposed-updates.

[Brendan J Simon]

Don't worry I figured it out.  I didn't have a trailing / after propose-updates.
ie. I had
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian dists/proposed-updates
instead of
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian dists/proposed-updates/

Brendan Simon.



Brendan J Simon wrote:

> I'm running some PowerPC and Intel machines with Debian 2.2.
>
> How do I edit my /etc/apt/sources.list to access the proposed-updates or
> potato-proposed-updates directory on the Debian mirrors.
>
> I searched the archives but didn't come up with anything helpful.  Is
> there a README, HOWTO, or website that has this information ?
>
> Thanks,
> Brendan Simon.
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Re: Where is the grub floppy?

[Daniel E. Baumann]

On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
> Hello all. I am attempting to install the Hurd, but the link to the grub
> floppy on the Easy Guide is broken. So where do I get the GRUB floppy image
> from?
> 
> Also, is there anything  I should watch out for with reagrds to e2fsprogs
> versions? I am running woody.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
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> "Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code." 
> 
>   -- Dave Olson
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Never mind, I found it at /gnu/grub on alpha.gnu.org. It helps to actually
read things on the server (duh). I need the grub-0.5.95-boot.image file,
right?

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Re: Mail-Followup-To still broken in mutt/exim

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:20:42PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:25:55PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> > BTW: your Mail-Followup-To is still broken: user `karsten' does not
> > exist on my system.
> 
> I've been trying to address this, am somewhat stymied by my own
> inexperience in the area.
> 
> First, I've got a rewrite rule in /etc/exim.conf:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
> {$value}fail} bcfrF
> 
> /etc/email-addresses has:
> 
> karsten kmself@ix.netcom.com

Maybe replace that with:

karsten:kmself@ix.netcom.com

I don't know how I came up with colons in mine, but it works.  The
lookup is like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\ 
{$value}fail} Frs

I don't accept mail from foreign hosts, so... My ISP is particular about
the 'Sender' header... for outgoing mail, hence 's'.

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Re: logging interaction between minicom and modem

[Rino Mardo]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:22:12AM -0400 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> Is there a way to log the interaction between minicom and modem 
> similar to what chat sends to ppp.log and syslog? 
> 
> Ever since I upgraded to potato last weekend chat hasn't gotten along 
> with my modem (external 57600 USR sportster) 
> 

yeah ppp scripts are annoying.  i use wvdial at home and it works with any
distro (that i've tried).

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Re: Where is the grub floppy?

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:56:10PM -0500, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
> > Hello all. I am attempting to install the Hurd, but the link to the grub
> > floppy on the Easy Guide is broken. So where do I get the GRUB floppy image
> > from?
> > 
> > Also, is there anything  I should watch out for with reagrds to e2fsprogs
> > versions? I am running woody.

You can just install the GRUB package under woody, then go from there...
I did it a month or so ago, and with some fiddling got it all set up
nicely.  I haven't tried the Hurd yet, 'cause there's no ppp (AFAIK).

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Re: Helix and Galeon

[Rino Mardo]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:10:59AM -0400 or thereabouts, Joey Tsai wrote:
> 
> I don't think there is a Galeon Debian package, in either Debian "proper" or
> from Helixcode.  I heard Helix was going to package it, but I also heard it

oh there is.  lookie in
http://silverchair.futureks.net/~solomon/galeon/potato.html

i got my answer in a few minutes (this mailing list is great!) and installed
galeon on my gnome-helix setup.  works like a charm.



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Re: WP5.1 under DOSEMU uses 100% CPU all the time

[kmself]

On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 04:06:02AM +0200, I. Tura ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>   Hi to all,
> 
>   After configuring DOSEMU I've started running WP5.1 for DOS there.
> Everything seemed fine but it happened an event I feared. If I use WP the
> CPU starts going near to 100% and this bugs me a lot, specially because I
> can end hearing the laptop fan. I always needed tranquility when I was
> writing short stories with it (the only use I give to WP5.1) so no good deal.

Not sure if it's relevant, but you might look at your hogthreshold
setting under /etc/dosemu/dosemu.conf.  I believe DOS doesn't provide
native CPU throttling, but Linux allows you to throttle CPU utilization
of the DOS emulator as a whole.

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Re: Firewall message in /var/log

[Bob Nielsen]

Purging and re-installing ipmasq resulted in networking with
masquerading now working again (I still don't know how it broke).

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:06:25PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> I rebooted today and started getting the same messages (lots of them!)
> All networking ceased to work.  I recompiled my kernel without
> masquerading and I can now connect, but of course without firewalling
> or masquerading.  I suspect there was a recent package update which
> caused this, but I haven't found out which one (neither netbase tcpd nor
> ipmasq appears to have been updated recently).
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:46:44PM +0100, Barry Samuels wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me why I should keep getting this message in my
> > /var/log/messages (I'm afraid I don't speak ipchains):
> > 
> > kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 192.14.17.1:513
> > 192.14.17.255:513 L=136 S=0x00 I=244 F=0x T=64 (#30)
> > 
> > I set my firewall up with PMFirewall supposedly to ignore my
> > internal network.

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Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:28:33AM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed wrote:

> Another question relating to FS layout and organization: which
> partitions should be mounted NOSUID ? Someone on another (local) mailing
> list recommended that I mount /home NOSUID as a security precaution.

the better question is what partitions should NOT be mounted
nosuid. the answer is / /usr and possibly /usr/local.  everything else
should be mounted nosuid unless you have a specific need for a suid or
sgid binary on the filesystem. 


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Re: Firewall message in /var/log

[Rino Mardo]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:46:44PM +0100 or thereabouts, Barry Samuels wrote:
> Can anyone tell me why I should keep getting this message in my
> /var/log/messages (I'm afraid I don't speak ipchains):
> 
> kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 192.14.17.1:513
> 192.14.17.255:513 L=136 S=0x00 I=244 F=0x T=64 (#30)
> 
> I set my firewall up with PMFirewall supposedly to ignore my
> internal network.
> 
> Barry Samuels
> 
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you didn't tell us more about the services or setup your running.
did you setup pm using the defaults?


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Re: gnupg help

[Vee-Eye]

Sie schrieben:
> 
> On 05-Sep-2000 Carlos Laviola wrote:
> > Hello people,
> > 
> > I know this is not Debian-related in any way, so please forgive me for
> > posting here. My question is: is there a way to change a e-mail address in
> > a gnupg key? My previous ISP (sol.com.br) is gone now, so I am using a new
> > one, with a new e-mail address, and would like to display that change in my
> > gnupg keys. How can I do that, if possible?
> > Thanks.
> > 
> 
> you can make an alias but the best thing is to make a new key.

Generating a new key would be the best solution, that's right. But have a look
at the " yourkey" menu. [You could add an uid () and 
then
delete the old one (surprise: ]
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Re: downloading debian GNU/Linux 2.2

[Rino Mardo]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:48:46PM -0400 or thereabouts, Antonio Rodriguez 
wrote:
> 
> Go to
> ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/
> 
> Get all base*, recue*, root*, driver*

you only need two diskette images - rescue.bin and root.bin

the rest can be installed via http or ftp

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Re: [SLU] Re: Netscape Bookmarks

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:23:22PM -0500, ktb wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Shel Johnson wrote:
> > Ok, here's a dumb one.. How do you find a file directory that starts with
> > a dot?.. Are they hidden?.. I know the location is: /home/shel/.netscape ,
> > but when I look for it, all I see is: /home/shel .. Does that make any
> > sense??...
> > 
> 
> As far as I know there are no directories starting with a "."  In order
   
   Huh? I'll bet you a pizza there are...


> to find a dot file use this command --
> ls -a 
> 
> Just --
> ls -a 
> in the current directory.
> 
> Take a look at the "ls" man page for other useful stuff.
> 
> you could also use --
> locate .netscape
> 
> hth,
> kent
> 
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Re: Compiling VMware 2.0.2

[Rino Mardo]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:38PM -0700 or thereabouts, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> Install either the 2.2.17 source or kernel-headers-2.2.17pre-whatever
> (I expect that since 2.2.17 has been released, there will soon be a new
> version).

yup i got it to compile now.  thx to all who replied.


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Re: installing openssh

[Rino Mardo]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:23:14PM -0400 or thereabouts, Scott wrote:
> hi,  was noticing that on the news update titled "Debian GNU/Linux 2.2,
> the "Joel 'Espy' Klecker" release, is officially released" openssh is
> listed as one of the new software packages.  i can't seem to find the
> openssh package under dselect, can anyone help me?  im updating my list
> from woody and not potato, but i can't understand why potato would have
> it and not woody.  thanks for your help.
> 

place the ff in your sources.list and do an apt to install it:

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free
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Re: autolog error message

[kmself]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:19:37AM -0300, Ariel O. Garcia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> A second question: I would like to have autolog close idle
> console logins (/dev/tty's, that works ok), idle telnets into that 
> machine and idle X_sessions (:0 for instance) but _not_ xterms inside :0
> Both telnet sessions and xterms have /dev/pts/#  as device... how could I
> treat them differently?

Kill the process with a telnetd parent?

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Re: apt-get and glibc update

[Federico Grau]

Ok folks, thanks for your help so far.  Next questions, 

1) I added ( deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main ) to my
sources.list file... I briefly checked (re-ran apt-setup) to see if I could
use my local mirror (tux.org) for the security updates... but it appears this
section is not mirrored... is this correct?  How else can one see what is
getting mirrored where?

2) I have a couple questions from the output of running "apt-get upgrade".  My
output follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  communicator
4 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 6101kB of archives. After unpacking 8447kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y

 - I am disturbed that it does not tell me the package names before performing
   the upgrade (if I recall correctly, normal "apt-get upgrade"s do)?!

 - What is the significance of "communicator being held back"... I recall
   reading some problems with the redhat rpms breaking java with communicator,
   but what is my debian system trying to do with communicator and why

thanks again for the help, debian rocks!
donfede

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:52:03PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:
> Federico Grau wrote:
> > 
> > Actually ... no :-( ... I commented that line out because I did not know 
> > what
> > it did and could see no mention of it in the man page (sources.list 5).
> > 
> > Why would security updates need a seperate sources line?  Shouldn't they
> > simply be considered part of the distribution?
> 
> security fixes are usually quick patches to fix a hole not fully tested.
> an example of this is redhats glibc update (a couple days ago?) seem to
> have broken their JDK setup, someone on bugtraq reccomended that people
> that need JDK either don't use the update or recompile JDK under the new
> glibc.
> 
> once they are fully tested and declared stable they are usually put into
> the distribution. 
> 
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Silly modules question

[Paul D. Smith]

So, I've set up a number of modules, including ALSA (built from source,
not the deb package), etc. so I understand the structure of
/etc/modutils and update-modules, etc.

I have an old Adaptec 1522 SCSI card in my system that's just used to
drive my old SyQuest EZDrive.  I can't figure out how to configure it to
load the aha152x module for me automatically.

I have this in my /etc/fstab:

  /dev/sda1 /sydos vfat noauto,user 0 0

When I try "mount /sydos", I get:

  mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device
 (maybe `insmod driver'?)

If I insmod the module by hand, it works.

I'm missing the magic needed to connect the sda1 device with the aha152x
driver.  Is there some char alias I have to set or something?  For my
ethernet card I used:

  alias eth0 modulename

Do I just need an "alias sda aha152x" or something?  Do you just alias
a device like that?  Is there some documentation somewhere discussing
this?  Similarly, I decided to try using the 2.2.17 builtin support for
the SB Live! emu10k1 rather than Alsa as I was using before; I had all
the alsa stuff set up in modutils perfectly.  Does anyone have an
example of this for the 2.2.17 kernel emu10k1 module?

Also in modutils/scsi I have this:

  options aha152x aha152x=0x340,9

These parameters are required but if I just use "insmod aha152x" they
don't get used; I have to add them explicitly.  I'm assuming that if the
kernel loads that module for me automatically it'll see those options in
modules.conf?

Thx.

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TCP/IP Receive Window

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I just had DSL installed and was told to adjust the DefaultReceiveWindow in
the windows registry.  This dramatically improved performance.  To be clear,
my understanding of the setting is this.  It defines the amount of data
which can be sent before an ACK must be received.

The logic is the overhead of ACKs becomes tremendous as the link speeds up.
I believe the default is 8KB.  That is to say only 8KB can be sent before an
ACK must be received.  With a slow link, this worked great.  Missing ACK -
retransmit only 8KB.  With faster links, one is constantly waiting for ACKs.

My question regards the setting for Linux.  What is the default size?  Where
is it defined?  Please keep in mind, latency is the critical factor here.
When an ACK takes 200ms to be received, it is very detrimental to wait for
ACKs.  Even fast lines often suffer this latency.  Of course, Bandwidth and
Latency are separate issues.  Bandwidth is reduced as a function of latency
due to handshaking nature of the protocol.  This also implies LANs would
suffer as much as the latency should be very low.

Side Issue:  This is what led to dramatic performance increases when sliding
window protocols such as zmodem emerged.  I wonder if TCP/IP uses any
sliding window technology.  Probably not since the parameters of the
exchange are not rigidly defined as in zmodem.  I don't believe it does use
sliding window but would love to hear if it does or will.




Regards,

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RE: Debian vs. Red Hat

[Paul McHale]

Wayne,

> It's to anyone,  I've mainly used Debian, because of it's
> stability, but our
> ISP has a contractor who's opinion is   "Red Hat's the best,
> thats why they
> are so popular."  I want to dipute this, but I need more than just my own

It is my experience most people feel whatever they are familiar with is the
best for situation.  I don't think I know *that* much about debian.  I do
know .deb is worlds better than .rpm.  When it comes to debian, you are
talking to the choir.

You ISP just has familiarity with red Hat.  This may make it a better
solution for them.  I am biased towards debian, but from an ISP (sysadmin)
standpoint debian is great at installing/maintaining packages.

In my opinion debian could be unfamiliar territory as it doesn't readily
offer graphical configuration utilities like RedHat.  I find these to be
more of a hindrance.  They lead to the windows mentality of "What just
happened?  I don't know either but is works now!".

The install of debian was (is?) pretty painful.  Compared to redhat, it is
monumental for the uninitiated.  I recommend Storm or Corel for the
installation challenged.  I think their install easily rivals Redhat.  It
can't get much easier than Corel.  Storm is not far behind.  Both
(especially Storm) offer apt-get (auto install and maintenance of packages)
with a high degree of debian compatibility.

There are curious parts of debian.  Debian has a religious issues with
/usr/local.  Some packages really want to be there (I.e. apache).  This can
easily be worked around.  You just have to watch when you read documentation
which assumes the software was installed in the /usr/local directory.  Some
publicly available scripts must be modified as well.  All in all, very
workable.  Just a curious departure.

For what it's worth, I have some friends who use redhat.  When it comes to
accomplishing tasks such as setting up a mail server, I can run circles
around them.  Debian is the finest server I have seen with support (this
list server) that would make Gates blush.  Recently, I installed sendmail.
I was up and running in less time than it would have taken me to find and
download the .rpm for Redhat.

Just my biased two cents.

Do keep in mind, I administer my own machines for my own consulting
business.  If I didn't find debian to be better, it would be out of here
yesterday.  I don't get paid for administration of the servers.  They are
expected utilities for a technical company such as mine.  I have tried
Redhat, Mandrake and Slackware.  Debian is the hands down winner for me.  It
simply costs less to operate.

Ironically, I was very happy with NT server.  It was stable enough for my
needs.  I couldn't get Frontpage server extensions to work properly under
IIS with multiple domains.  It started costing me money to play with it.  I
always had a debian mail server.  I installed Apache/frontpage and haven't
looked back.  Sad that frontpage works better under apache than IIS.  Go
figure.

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Re: gnupg help

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 07:30:12AM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote:

> Generating a new key would be the best solution, that's right. But have a look
> at the " yourkey" menu. [You could add an uid () and 
> then
> delete the old one (surprise: ]

except if you already have uploaded to a keyserver you won't be able
to delete the uid very effectivly since keyservers only merge data,
not remove.  same thing with anyone who already has your key, if they
merge your new key with the new uid they will have a key with both
uids.  

uid deletion only effects your local keyring it will not propagate. 

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Re: Problems rebooting after compiling a new kernel

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

>>"Rajesh" == Rajesh Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Rajesh> (Then I moved /lib/modules/2.2.17 to /lib/modules/2.2.17.old)

Please note that this location shall not be used by either
 your old kernel, nor you new one. May I humbly suggest
 kernel-package, and specifically point you to the FLavours.gz
 documentation therein? 

 Rajesh> (Then I moved /boot/System.map and /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 likewise)
 >> cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/map
 >> cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage

Your modules and system.map files are saved, but are not live;
 your old kernel, regardless of its current name, shall still look for
 its modules and map file in the original location.

 Rajesh> (I changed the symlinks /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old to reflect the 
changes
 Rajesh> in /boot)

Well, you should not be surprised if the latter does not work.

 Rajesh> I edited /etc/lilo.conf to add a new block for /boot/bzImage)
 >> /sbin/lilo

 Rajesh> No lilo errors popped up so I rebooted and once it came time for the 
new
 Rajesh> boot process I got this error..
 Rajesh> VFS: Cannot open root device 16:01
 Rajesh> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 16:01

Umm. You are compiling the IDE hard disk suport as a module. And
 you have no SCSI support at all.

# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m

So your IDE Hard drive is compiled as a module. But the module
 can't be accessed until we can read the hard drive. 

 Rajesh> To try to fix things I tried to reboot with the boot floppy I
 Rajesh> made when I initially installed Debian but I get a *lot* of
 Rajesh> module dependencies problems(I'm assuming because of
 Rajesh> /lib/modules/2.2.17.old )but one which just won't go away and
 Rajesh> blocks the login process is

Well, your old kernel, on the floppy, can't find any of its
 modules, since /lib/modules/2.2.17 now contains a new set of
 modules. 


 Rajesh> Can someone please point out what I did wrong and how I can
 Rajesh> correct it. If it's not reparable then what steps do I need
 Rajesh> to take once I reinstall and before I reboot with the new
 Rajesh> kernel. Thanks in advance.

If you have the Debian rescue floppy, just boot into that,
 switch to virtual console 2 (Alt-F2), and mount your root device
 under /mnt. Go in, and move the /mnt/lib/modules/2.2.17 to
 2.2.17.new, and likewise with System.map (I would not touch the
 actual images). Exit, remove the rescue disk, and boot back to the
 old image (which should no longer have module problems).

I wish you luck. 


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Re: kde or gnome?

[Ian Zimmerman]

> "Joachim" == Joachim Trinkwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

itz> window manager, and at present the only window manager with full
itz> support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'.

Joachim> That's nonsense, many window managers have Gnome support now,
Joachim> e.g. icewm-gnome, wmaker, sawfish-gnome.

Joachim> Most integrated in Gnome is sawfish, which is configurable
Joachim> through the Gnome control center. Sawfish seems to be quite
Joachim> so lightweight; please try it out.

Read the quote again.  I wrote "the only wm with _full_ support" etc.
If sawfish is "Most integrated", the others are necessarily "less
integrated", or not?  I don't want the wm and the desktop to step over
each other, and that's precisely what happens with wmaker when the
wmaker frills and the desktop frills overlap.

I did omit to mention sawfish, for which I apologize.

Another point is that I want to use the debianized versions of things
where possible, and I think that's what the original question was
about, too.  I am sure many of the wm's have better Gnome support now
in their bleeding edge versions, but I will not use them.

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Re: Mail-Followup-To still broken in mutt/exim

[kmself]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:10:10PM -0700, Eric G . Miller (egm2@jps.net) wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:20:42PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:25:55PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > 
> > > BTW: your Mail-Followup-To is still broken: user `karsten' does not
> > > exist on my system.
> > 
> > I've been trying to address this, am somewhat stymied by my own
> > inexperience in the area.
> > 
> > First, I've got a rewrite rule in /etc/exim.conf:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
> > {$value}fail} bcfrF
> > 
> > /etc/email-addresses has:
> > 
> > karsten kmself@ix.netcom.com
> 
> Maybe replace that with:
> 
> karsten:kmself@ix.netcom.com
> 
> I don't know how I came up with colons in mine, but it works.  The
> lookup is like:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\ 
> {$value}fail} Frs
> 
> I don't accept mail from foreign hosts, so... My ISP is particular about
> the 'Sender' header... for outgoing mail, hence 's'.

I've got one current additional box on the system, and plan to have
additional soon (laptop, other random boxen).  So there will be some
internal delivery going on.

I also just found this Exim FAQ, which appears to address the question
I'm concerned with:  http://exim.ping.uio.no/FAQ.html#SEC201

Basically, it's this:

  o Rewrite all references to 'karsten' for mail being delivered outside
the local network, changing them to 'kmself@ix.netcom.com'

  o Don't modify any references to 'karsten' for mail delivered on the
local host or within the local network.

...I'm getting the impression this isn't the sort of rule Exim likes to
have to deal with.  Is Sendmail a better option?

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Sound Card CMI8738 (C-Media) and missing cdrom drive??

[Glyn Millington]

Hi folks - I'm on Debian Potato and I'm trying to set up for
sound.  My sound card is a CMI8738.  Has anyone managed to get
one of these working, and if so which driver did you use?

on related topic:- during boot-up I'm getting a "No CD-Rom drive
found" message, as below 

> snip <---
hda: FUJITSU MPE3084AE, ATA DISK drive
hdb: ATAPI 48X CDROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: FUJITSU MPE3084AE, 8063MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63
hdb: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
pcd: pcd version 1.07, major 46, nice 0
request_module[paride_protocol]: Root fs not mounted
pcd0: Autoprobe failed
pcd: No CD-ROM drive found

-> snip <--

Can't find any info about pcd.  Is THIS why I can't play cds??

Thanks for all the help thus far

Glyn M 



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Re:"Joe" editor

[Adrian Nims]

The command "apt-get install joe" gave me the follwing answer:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package joe

What can I do next ?

Adrian Nims

R: staroffice .bin

[marco frattola]

> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: Andrew Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> You mean to tell me (and the debian-user list) that
> the .bin file for Star
> -office that I downloaded is executable?

yes, it is. you have to chmod it if it's not
 
> What does it _do_ when you execute it?  

it does staroffice installation and setup.
if you use it with the /net switch, it can installa one copy of
the product which every user can use. since it can take as much
as 280MB per user (with single install), the /net switch is a must
for anyone with more than one user on a machine
 
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horde: install problem

[Joel Gautschi]

hi,

if i try to install the horde debian package (horde 2:1.2.0-12) for debian
unstable i get the following warning:

---
Working, please wait...Checking non-HORDE config files
   WARNING 
You stated your using PostgreSQL as a database and
that it is local yet the install program cannot seem
to find the config files for it.  The install program
will NOT confiugre your database for use with HORDE
and thus will not function properly until you get this
fixed.

Please press ENTER
---

press ENTER doesn't work. I have to end with ctrl+c
why do I get this warning? I don't have a PostgreSQL database - I have a
MySQL DB. Or do I have configured it somewhere?

thanks for an answer...

cya
Joel

how to reconfigure a package? (debconf)

[Bruno Boettcher]

Hello,
due to some bug, when debconf starts up the  key is devalidaded,
so upgrading of my machine is impossible i wanted to change the
setting for debconf... but couldn't figure how to force reconfiguration
of a package

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rewrite and change document root on apache

[Jaume Teixi]

thank you Craig,
I've setup Document Root for each virtual host on
/var/www/www.virtualhost1.com

I made stats for each virtual host on
/var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com

On Apache I want to forward http://virtualhost1.com/stats to
/var/reports/virtualhost1.com

I've setup:

Alias/reports/  /var/reports/
RewriteRule  ^/stats(.*)/reports/%{SERVER_NAME}$1

but Alias has no effect on rewrite and is looking from default Document
Root:
/var/www/www.virtualhost1.com/reports/www.virtualhost1.com

and produces a 404  :(


bests,
jaume.

Re: Firewall/IP-masquerading

[Willi Dyck]

> on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:59:25PM -0700, Nate Amsden sent 1.1K bytes on
> their merry way:
> > not sure what kernels your using but:
> 
I am using kernel 2.2.16.

> I'm using 2.2.17 (woody)
> 
> > - i've never gotten MASQ to work with DNS on 2.2 i've always had to
> put
> > a DNS on the masq machine and point machines to it instead, this was
> not
> > the case in 2.0 where it was able to masq without any trouble.
> 
> DNS works fine fromt he other side of my MASQ router; Perhaps there is
> some difference between UDP dns requests and TCP? *shrug*
> 
> I would suspect some stray ipchains rule is denying the DNS traffic.

No rules are denying DNS traffic.
I even can't ping any host from the firewalling box although a connection
to my ISP is established, surely.
> 
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Re: Firewall/IP-masquerading

[Willi Dyck]

> Nate Amsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > not sure what kernels your using but:
> > 
> > - i've never gotten MASQ to work with DNS on 2.2 i've always had to
> put
> > a DNS on the masq machine and point machines to it instead, this was
> not
> > the case in 2.0 where it was able to masq without any trouble.
> 
> Hmm. I'm not sure what you mean here. I have a firewall/masq machine
> and I know for a fact that my main PC, which sits behind this
> firewall, has no problem reaching my remote DNS servers using
> masquerading (I don't currently run a DNS server myself).
> 
> > try putting a DNS on yer masq box and point everything to it.
> 
> Yikes! That's not a trivial task and it's of questionable value given
> what I'm able to do, as stated above.
> 
> > Willi Dyck wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand the world (Debian)anymore.
> > > As soon as I compile things like
> > > - ip firewalling
> > > - ip masquerading
> > > - ip forwarding into the kernel, I can't ping any host by it's name.
> > > I am able to ping IP's. Seems like a DNS Lookup failure. But why??
> > > I didn't changed any file I only compiled the features listed above.
> > > When I boot the old kernel again the problem seems to be gone.
> > > WHY??? What is the logical thing here???
> > > Thanx for your help.
> 
> My guess is that you've got a chain in the default rules that's
> blocking DNS access. DNS access isn't a simple one to block/unblock,
> if I remember correctly. Just look at the logs (/var/log/syslog) and
> see if any of the output rules, with a source inside your LAN, is
> being denied. Personally, if I were you I'd get PMFirewall,

I have no chains blocking DNS access, I'm only blocking telnet and
netbios.
And /var/log/syslog isn't saying a word about ipchains. I wonder if my
firewall script was started at startup/links are set. How to check it?
> 
> http://www.pmfirewall.com/PMFirewall/
> 
> And start with the rules they insert and build on that.
> 
> It's quick, asks simple questions and gets you going quickly.
> 
> Gary
> 
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Re: "Joe" editor

[Rino Mardo]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:40:43AM +0300 or thereabouts, Adrian Nims wrote:
> The command "apt-get install joe" gave me the follwing answer:
> 
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package joe
> 
> What can I do next ?
> 
what you do next is give us a glimpse of your sources.list or check them
yourself and make sure they are correct.

did you do an "apt-get update" first?
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new machine froze, how to debug

[Krzys Majewski]

Oh man, after reading all these scary faulty-hardware posts I shook
in my boots a little after coming home and finding my new machine 
frozen solid. It was running xseti at the time FWIW. 
Where should I start looking?
-chris

Re: Netscape 4.75 problems

[Anthony Campbell]

On 05 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote:
> Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > 
> > On 05 Sep 2000, Dale L . Morris wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > >
> > > I am currently running 4.73 Netscape from potato and it works
> > > fine. But when I do the apt-get upgrade it ignores the netscape
> > > packages for 4.75. Anyone know why?
> > >
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > How do you get to 4.73? I got 4.06 when I upgraded slink to potato.
> > I have upgraded subsequently via proposed updates but this has not
> > yielded 4.73.
> 
> i found upgrading from slink to potato yielded many many non upgraded
> packages, the system would say it is up to date but if i did a manual
> install (xchat comes to mind) apt-get install  apt would
> realize that the program is outdated and upgrade it. odd!! happened on
> every machine i upgraded.
> 
> nate
> 

Thanks for reply. Now the question is, which netscape package(s) should
I ask for? When I upgraded via proposed-updates I got some version of
netscape-base4.75 (can't remember which), but there are numerous
netscape packages on the site and I don't know which to tell apt-get to
fetch.

Anthony


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Re: TCP/IP Receive Window

[Nate Amsden]

Paul McHale wrote:

> I just had DSL installed and was told to adjust the DefaultReceiveWindow in
> the windows registry.  This dramatically improved performance.  To be clear,
> my understanding of the setting is this.  It defines the amount of data
> which can be sent before an ACK must be received.

for some reason win9x is not tweaked by default for networks, this kind
of adjustments is not required(or needed) in linux.

default linux 2.2 settings for defaultrecieve window is 65535

you can tweak it all you like but i suggest keeping it as it is unless
you are having problems, i have setup many linux boxes on dsl
connections and they all absolutly SCREAM.

look at /proc/sys/net/core

each of the files in there stores a setting, you can change it by:

echo "some updated setting" >filename

changes will take effect right away(no reboot required!) you can also
look at the configuration in /proc/sys/net/ipv4

if you want more info on how to tune network subsystems on various OSs
check this page out:

http://www.psc.edu/networking/perf_tune.html

hth

nate

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Re: Netscape 4.75 problems

[Nate Amsden]

Anthony Campbell wrote:

> Thanks for reply. Now the question is, which netscape package(s) should
> I ask for? When I upgraded via proposed-updates I got some version of
> netscape-base4.75 (can't remember which), but there are numerous
> netscape packages on the site and I don't know which to tell apt-get to
> fetch.

to be clean i'd remove any existing netscape packages first and install
it fresh. i believe the package i have installed is 'communicator'.

Package: communicator
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: contrib/web
Installed-Size: 22
Maintainer: Ryan Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: netscape4.base
Version: 1:4.75-1
Depends: communicator-smotif-475, netscape-java-475
Conflicts: netscape-base-406, netscape-base-407, netscape-base-408,
netscape-base-45, netscape-base-451, netscape-base-46,
netscape-base-461, netscape-base-47, netscape-base-472,
netscape-base-473
Description: Meta package that depends on other packages
 This package depends on the real netscape packages, so as to
 make things easier for people to install.
meta-package: yes

i think i got this from security.debian.org im not sure if its available
on the main mirrors yet.

nate

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Re: apt-get and glibc update

[Nate Amsden]

Federico Grau wrote:

>  - I am disturbed that it does not tell me the package names before performing
>the upgrade (if I recall correctly, normal "apt-get upgrade"s do)?!

that one i can't answer it'd be nice if it did! i get the same ..

> 
>  - What is the significance of "communicator being held back"... I recall
>reading some problems with the redhat rpms breaking java with communicator,
>but what is my debian system trying to do with communicator and why

i don't understand why (i've had this happen too) from what i've seen
when something like that is "held back" sometimes it is because it
depends on other things where you did not tell apt to install, i've
always been able(as far as i know) get around this by forcing an
install, in this case 'apt-get install communicator' will tell apt to
install that..then you can get more detailed info on any problems(if
any) there are.

nate


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Re: compiling a kernel

[Paul McNally]

When you install Linux it comes with a stock kernel and
a ton of device drivers. You want to compile a kernel to
cut down to the device drivers you need. If you'd like
pointers to documentation, send me an email.

Paul

Re: new machine froze, how to debug

[kmself]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:53:08AM -0700, Krzys Majewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Oh man, after reading all these scary faulty-hardware posts I shook
> in my boots a little after coming home and finding my new machine 
> frozen solid. It was running xseti at the time FWIW. 
> Where should I start looking?

System logs.  Disks on startup fsck.

When did the system crash?  What logs were last modified?  What do they
say?

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Re: new machine froze, how to debug

[Nate Amsden]

Krzys Majewski wrote:
> 
> Oh man, after reading all these scary faulty-hardware posts I shook
> in my boots a little after coming home and finding my new machine
> frozen solid. It was running xseti at the time FWIW.
> Where should I start looking?
> -chris

you can start specifying all the hardware, i found that [EMAIL PROTECTED] would
lock my BP6 *EVERY SINGLE TIME* it was like clockwork. so if you have a
BP6 ..replace it. or take the 2nd cpu out. see
http://www.snurgle.org/~griffon/bp6-linux.html for more info.

you can also get a program called cpuburn to burn in the cpu, cpuburn
also comes with a chipset tester(only supports a few chipsets). there
are several memory checkers available(see freshmeat)

if you don't have a BP6, run stress tests on it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a great
program to stress the cpu/cache/memory/IDE controllers/hdds.  for a
128MB machine 7 copies of [EMAIL PROTECTED] running at the same time for 2-3
days is a good test i've found. for 256MB maybe increase it to 12. etc
etc. (im sure that rc5 is just as good as seti but ive never tried it
myself)

run this in console mode, make sure there is no X at all running. if it
passes the test, then run (from inside X) x11perf -all (cant believe i
remembered that command! last week i couldnt..) that will run a series
of graphics tests, it can take hours to complete, if the machine does
not lock up, run it again, or maybe try loading it a 2nd time and run 2
copies(not sure if that would work) if that all passes .then it may
be safe to say the system is pretty stable and just xseti is buggy(which
last i saw their readme strongly iterates it is beta/alpha software)

nate

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Re: Sound Card CMI8738 (C-Media) and missing cdrom drive??

[Frederik]

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Glyn Millington wrote:

> Hi folks - I'm on Debian Potato and I'm trying to set up for
> sound.  My sound card is a CMI8738.  Has anyone managed to get
> one of these working, and if so which driver did you use?

Well, I succeeded after I recompiled the kernel with the sound card
drivers compiled as modules. It's somewhere in the README I believe. Maybe
this is fixed in later kernel-versions. Also, I used the driver from the
manufacturer's website, since the one used in 2.2.14 was older (but this
is not necessary, they both work, as long as they are compiled as module)

Good luck,

Frederik

Funny login comment...

[Triggs; Ian]

Hi, just after I managed to get my cable modem working under linux I
noticed some funny things started happening to my computer.  For example,
when I login it gives me the message:
"PAM_unix[390]: (login) session opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0)"

and then after the login message it says:
"login[390]: ROOT LOGIN on `tty1'"

Also, syslogd takes a long time to start upon startup, would this have
anything to do with it?

Also, I only want dhclient to get one IP address, not one for both
ethernet cards in the computer.  How would I stop it from doing this?
My /etc/network/interfaces file looks like this:

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255

iface eth1 inet dhcp


Thanks for your help,

Ian

Re: LILO-rific

[John Pearson]

On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:15:56PM -0700, Tal Danzig wrote
> Hello,
> 
> Set boot to /dev/hda (the MBR) and your setup should work just fine.
> 
> Tal
> 

If you're really paranoid, you can use it as-is; you just have to
use fdisk (linux or windows) to make /dev/hda3 (and only /dev/hda3)
active/bootable after installing LILO.  That tells the DOS MBR which
partition boot record to load.

> On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:08:55 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> 
> : Okay, I pretty much get LILO... Here's my deal: Windows in on hda1, Linux 
> is 
> :  on hda3 (hda2 is a compaq backup, and hda4 is Linux Swap).  What I want to 
> :  have happen is that when I start my comp without any boot floppies or CDs, 
> I 
> :  have the choice to load Win or Lin.  I would like Win as default, and I 
> would 
> :  like a password protecting Win, although that's not so important.  What 
> I've 
> :  got as my lilo.conf at this point (which I have not yet loaded with the 
> lilo 
> :  command) is:
> :  
> :  boot=/dev/hda3
> :  root=/dev/hda3
> :  install=/boot/boot.b
> :  map=/boot/map
> :  vga=normal
> :  delay=20
> :  other=/dev/hda1
> :  label=Win
> :  table=/dev/hda
> :  password=secret
> :  image=/vmlinuz
> :  label=Linux
> :  read-only
> :  
> :  I'm a little confused about boot being set, since shouldn't that maybe be 
> :  hda1, since windows MBR, er... I really don't get that part so well.  The 
> :  last question is: As of now I'm using a floppy to boot to Linux.  
> Otherwise 
> :  the system boots to Windows no questions asked, since I haven't touched 
> the 
> :  MBR.  If I load lilo into the MBR, and I decide it's not working out for 
> me, 
> :  is there a quick way to pull it back out?  Much thanks, bye!
> :  
> :  -Chris
> :  
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Re: Netscape 4.75 problems

[John Pearson]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:20:04PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote
> On 05 Sep 2000, Dale L . Morris wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > 
> > I am currently running 4.73 Netscape from potato and it works
> > fine. But when I do the apt-get upgrade it ignores the netscape
> > packages for 4.75. Anyone know why?
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> 
> How do you get to 4.73? I got 4.06 when I upgraded slink to potato.
> I have upgraded subsequently via proposed updates but this has not
> yielded 4.73.
> 

Like the kernel, Netscape packages are version-specific; that is
to say that different versions are treated as separate packages,
not as different versions of the same package.

To install the latest statically-linked version of Netscape
Communicator, use something like

# apt-get install communicator-smotif-475

If you want to track the latest release, try

# apt-get install communicator

Communicator is a meta-package that depends on the latest
statically-linked release; that way if Communicator 4.76 makes
it out the door and gets packaged, you should get it along
with everything else when you go

# apt-get update; apt-get upgrade


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Re: "Joe" editor

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Do apt-get update first, so that it loads all available packages. Make sure 
first that
you have all needed entries in your sources.list for apt-get.

Adrian Nims wrote:

> The command "apt-get install joe" gave me the follwing answer:
>
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package joe
>
> What can I do next ?
>
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Grainy Gnome

[Rino Mardo]

I'm not sure what's causing this but my X settings looks grainy on Gnome (using
Sawmill for wm).  To be check if helix-gnome is supposed to look grainy I
booted to Win2K and went to helixcode's website.  There I saw what helix gnome
is really supposed to look and I like what I saw.  So my question is:

How can I remove the grainyness out of my X install?

I have 2.2 and installed helix-gnome from spidermonkey .deb files and I have a
3D Rage Pro AGP 2X vidcard with 8MB ram and using 1024x768 res and 32 bpp.

My resolution is no problem it's only this grainy texture that bothers me.

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Re: Grainy Gnome

[Peter Malewski]

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Rino Mardo wrote:

> I'm not sure what's causing this but my X settings looks grainy on Gnome 
> (using
> Sawmill for wm).  To be check if helix-gnome is supposed to look grainy I
> booted to Win2K and went to helixcode's website.  There I saw what helix gnome
> is really supposed to look and I like what I saw.  So my question is:
> 
> How can I remove the grainyness out of my X install?
> 
> I have 2.2 and installed helix-gnome from spidermonkey .deb files and I have a
> 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X vidcard with 8MB ram and using 1024x768 res and 32 bpp.
> 
> My resolution is no problem it's only this grainy texture that bothers me.
> 
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Problem with the instalation!!!

[Peter Antoniac]

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Dear debian-user@lists.debian.org,

I have huge problems with installing the packages from potato.
It seems that /debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz is
corrupted gzip file:
invalid data crc error.
I tried in vary ways to fix it myself but it is impossible to avoid
the thing since it is the Package file ;((
PLEASE help me pass the step so that I can install some of the
packages from the main distribution.
Thank you.

Sincerely,
Peter
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Re: Problem with the instalation!!!

[Rino Mardo]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:52:31PM +0300 or thereabouts, Peter Antoniac wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Dear debian-user@lists.debian.org,
> 
> I have huge problems with installing the packages from potato.
> It seems that /debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz is
> corrupted gzip file:
> invalid data crc error.
> I tried in vary ways to fix it myself but it is impossible to avoid
> the thing since it is the Package file ;((
> PLEASE help me pass the step so that I can install some of the
> packages from the main distribution.
> Thank you.

where are you reading this file? CD?

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nfs module

[Major Sébastien]

Hi,

  I take nfs-kernel-server, the nfsstat prog say :
Warning: /proc/net/rpc/nfs: No such file or directory

  Why ? nfs module is not loaded, so I wrote :
modprobe nfs.
  Which alias command must appear in /etc/modultils/aliases
to correct this trouble.
  The kernel function is request_module and I didn't see
the one for nfs in source code.
  uname -a reply with :
Linux beudede 2.2.15 #1 Thu Jun 1 10:47:16 EST 2000 i586 unknown

Best regards.

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Netscape Bookmarks [solved!!]

[Shel Johnson]

Ok, this is what I did.. I copied win9x netscape file, Bookmark.htm, to
file /.netscape renaming it to bookmarks.html .. it was that simple.. next
for fun, I transferred my address book because the file name is the same
for both.. In a few weeks, Mr Gates can kiss my a$$!!.. Thanks everyone
for your help!!...

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URL for mysql slink binaries

[USM Bish]

>From where could I download mysql server and client 
(binary distributions) for "Slink" ?The ones on the 
debian mirrors now, appear to be for "potato".

USM Bish

RE: 2.2 -> Woody

[felix opare]

please unsubscribe me . I do not want to be part of this.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 6:14 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 2.2 -> Woody


On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:04:02PM -0700, Kyle Lynch wrote:
> If I install Potato, how would I go upon the process of upgrading to Woody
> without a format and reinstall?

apt-get dists-upgrade

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Source directory

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

Hi everybody,

Which is the proper place to uncompress and compile source code that
will be installed on /usr/local without any deb? It's /usr/src or
/usr/local/src?

For example, any program that I download from internet in .tar.gz file
where should be uncompressed to follow debian policy (one of the two
directories said above)?

Just an example, the linux kernel... I have never used the debian
packages and I have always used a .tar.gz. But where should I place
it? Will it work under /usr/local/src?

Thanks.

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Woody --> potato?

[Andre Berger]

Is there anything like apt-get dist-downgrade?

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apt-get upgrade size mismatch question

[Jason Holland]

hello all,
  i'm having a small problem with apt-get and was wondering if anyone can
help out.  i'm running woody by the way.  everyday i run apt-get update and
apt-get upgrade, but i always get these errors when performing the upgrade.

Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.twoguys.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/admin/devfsd_1.3.1
0-1.deb
  Size mismatch
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.twoguys.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/libs/libgmp2_2.0.2
-8.deb
  Size mismatch
Failed to fetch


i usually have to go to /var/cache/apt...  to manually install the debs,
which is a real pain.  anyone know why it fails to install because of a size
mismatch??  a workaround for this would be nice.  thanks!!

Jason

Re: sound

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:59:37AM -0500, Wayne Sitton wrote:

> Hey guys,  I finnally got Debian 2.2 installed and running on my laptop.
> 
> My biggest problme was X,  Why can't these companies just use normal
> video chipsets?
> Anyhow, it's working!!!
> 
> I have a ess solo sound card.  I installed it as a module, and it works
> fineunder root
> It will not work under my user account, so where do I need to change
> permissions, ownership, or do I need to add myself to another group?
> I read somewhere that you need to add youself to the audio
> group(dip),
> but I don't have that group on my system.  also the gnome cd player will
> also not run under my user log-in, I suspect that is because it doesn't
> have the right to mount the drive.  So what do i need to do?
> I'm not worried about user security, because I will be the only one
> useing the laptop.

Add yourself to the 'audio' group and then check permissions for
/dev/dsp, /dev/audio and /dev/mixer. They should be already set,
though.
About the cdrom add yourself to the 'disk' group and to 'cdrom'
group. That should be enought.

Tip: make a link of your device to /dev/cdrom; it is easier to access
to your cdrom later.

But when in doubt, take a look at /etc/group; you will find a lot of
preset groups that you can use then with your user. Usually all files
that pertain to that group have proper permissions, so you won't need
to do anything special.

About the cdroms, they are in iso9660 format, so you can do:
  mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom
to mount it (replace /dev/hdd and /cdrom with proper
values). Optionally you can setup /etc/fstab with the following line:
  /dev/cdrom/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
So you can issue "mount /cdrom" and it will be properly mounted. With
the "user" option you tell that ANY user can mount it.

Hope it helps.
Bye!

> 
> Wayne
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Re: apt-get install task

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Åsmund Ødegård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> apt-cache pkgnames | grep task may be suitable for you?

Maybe more suitable/easier:

   $ apt-cache search task

Greetings,
joachim

installation problems

[Anderson, James H \[IT\]]

I'm still working my way thru a first installation and am having a few
problems.

1) Using apt-get I upgraded my _working_ pcmcia (LAN) stuff. I stupidly
didn't bother configuring during the upgrade, thinking that my config file
was already built, so there was no point. Of course the latest pcmcia stuff
uses a different config method entirely--now I have no network :-(. How
configure this latest version?

2) My /var file system is out of space, mostly filled up with apt stuff. I'd
like to delete only those packages that have been successfully installed
since there are a number of things I still want to install, e.g..,
Enlightenment, etc. How???

3) How do I keep X from automatically coming up when I boot? I'd much prefer
to bring it up as neded with 'startx'.

Many thanks,

jim

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Re: how to reconfigure a package? (debconf)

[Moritz Schulte]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:15:13AM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

> due to some bug, when debconf starts up the  key is devalidaded,
> so upgrading of my machine is impossible i wanted to change the
> setting for debconf... but couldn't figure how to force reconfiguration
> of a package

man dpkg-reconfigure :)

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Re: cable modem: does my hostname matter?

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:59:18AM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote:

> My  cable provider tells  me my  hostname is  cr275960-a. So  I've put
> cr275960-a in /etc/hostname and  everything works. My /etc/hosts looks
> like this:
> 
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 24.115.135.172cr275960-a  cr275960-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com
> 
> Anyway, cr275960-a  is a  pretty ugly name  for my machine,  don't you
> think? Can I change it? -chris

I think you can do it, but instead, you can specify all the names you
want to one computer. Just add it after (or before) the name
your provider gave up and should be ok. So, it will be like this:

24.115.135.172put-your-new-name-here cr275960-a 
cr275960-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com

Bye!

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Update Debian Slink->Potato: Problems with Soundblaster AWE64 and kernel 2.2.x

[Berthold Cogel]

Hallo!

I have a weird problem with Debian 2.2:

Since I updated my system from Debian 2.1 to Debian 2.2, sound doesn't
work anymore.

- Debian 2.1: Sound is fully functional with kernel 2.0.x and kernel
2.2.x (I tested one of my backups to make sure).
- Update to Debian 2.2: Sound through /dev/dsp doesn't work (tested with
kernel 2.2.x). Sound from CD or TV and awe_wave is OK. 
- Because of some other reasons I installed a new system based on Debian
2.2: Sound through /dev/dsp doesn't work. Sound from CD or TV and
awe_wave is OK.

Known problems:

- isapnp is unable zu find my soundcard with the old isapnp.conf
(readport 0x274). I had to reassign the readport entry (now it's 0x273)
in isapnp.conf. :-( 

- After rewriting the isapnp configuration: Now the initialisation by
isapnp is ok. But the Soundblaster module tries to tell me that it has a
problem with an IRQ conflict on IRQ  . That is the parallel port. Until
now was I'm unable to assign the original IRQ 5 to the soundblaster
module. I tried several variations for the options in modules.conf. :-(

- And now, here comes the best of it all: Yesterday I tried
kernel-2.4.0-test7. It worked. /dev/dsp is OK. I compiled the sound into
the kernel.


Thanks in advance

Berthold Cogel

thx to all, the firewall is running !

[webmaster]

Thanks to all, giving me tips to set up and
configure my firewall !

any luck with ES1869 sound card?

[Peter Fedichev]

Hello!

have anyone ever managed to get sound working with ES1869 sound card? I've been 
using
RedHat and gave up with it. Since recently I installed Debian 2.2 and got the 
same
problem again. Do any of you know the way out or maybe there is a place 
somewhere to
read about configuring a sound card in more details.


Thanks in advance

How do I start | stop a daemon under debian

[Adrian Nims]

How do I start | stop a daemon under debian ? I have Debian 2.2 Potato. I
understand that I have to use "ln -s" in order to start a daemon automatic
after reboot.

Is it the same for stopping forever a daemon that was set up to start after
reboot ?

Adrian Nims

Re: dist-upgrade

[luke]

I checked my hostname files after booting off the rescue disk, and 
everything seems normal.  Any other ideas?

On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:09:49 -0400,
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>On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:32:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>wrote:
>> Okay, I had potato on my computer and decided to upgrade to 
>> unstable.  I added the unstable line to sources.list and did "apt-get 
>> dist-upgrade".  I rebooted, and the whole system locks up when it 
>> starts to load tcplogd.  Does anyone know what this means?
>
>Probably a DNS lookup hang. Is there anything weird about your hostnames
>and such?
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RE: How do I start | stop a daemon under debian

[Jason Holland]

adrian,

daemons are located in /etc/init.d

to start lpd for example

# /etc/init.d/lpd start

to stop

# /etc/init.d/lpd stop

to control which runlevel a daemon is stopped/started automatically, use the
command update-rc.d.  as an example:

# update-rc.d -f lpd add

hope this helps you out!

Jason

>
> How do I start | stop a daemon under debian ? I have Debian 2.2 Potato. I
> understand that I have to use "ln -s" in order to start a daemon automatic
> after reboot.
>
> Is it the same for stopping forever a daemon that was set up to
> start after
> reboot ?
>
> Adrian Nims
>

Re: Why should I use Debian?

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:24:39PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi all Debians!
> 
> I am a devoted Linux user, running Caldera at work and SuSE at home
> (that's also work!). At home I have a dual boot with Win98 and I always
> have an extra partition to run an extra Linux distribution for testing,
> I've installed and configured almost all of the most common
> distributions.
> 
> Debian/GNU is the most interesting projec I can imagine in the world of
> software, idealistically it suites me perfect. I really would love to be
> able to use Debian as my default OS.
> I installed Debian 2.1 (slink) several times but I was never able to
> configure it to my satisfaction, GNOME never worked, ppp never
> worked,printer never worked, everything was just a total mess. With

apt-get install task-gnome-core
pppconfig
printtool


> There definitely is a learning curve though. I would not recommend
Debian to a

Thjis learning curve is the Good Thing of Debian. You first need to
get documented before doing a thing, so you know how it works and what
will do your system.

> newbie. Storm Linux sounds like a fairly descent choice (since it has a GUI
> installer/upgrader), but I've never tried it. I plan to stay clear of RPM 
> based
> systems now that I've been spoiled with Debian "deb"s.
> 
> Debian is also more like a traditional Linux. Not until I used Debian did I
> realize you were supposed to add users to groups instead of simply changing
> permissions. This is just one example of things I never learned through the
> other systems.

True :)

> Finally, I should reiterate about the learning curve. When I first installed
> Debian I really screwed up. So, after doing some research on past mailing 
> lists
> and other documentation, I was able to piece together how Debian package
> management works (I'm no pro though). I remember reading that it takes a while
> to setup Debain, but once in place, it's very easy to manage/upgrade/etc.
> 
> It REALLY does take some time to get used to how Debian works, but, it all 
> makes
> sense in the end. I encourage you to not get discouraged, but, regroup and 
> learn
> Debian. It's been truly a rewarding experience for me.

I took me about 3 times, and I was a newbie, with only two months of
experience with slackware 3.4! :) I have been running the current
installation since January, I think... and impossible thing in win.

Bye!

> 
> Scott
> 
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> 
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/etc/rcx.d... how should be setup?

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

Hi all,

I would like to ask a question that has come to my mind...

How should be the /etc/rcx.d directories managed ? (replace x with a
number)
I currently have runlevel 2 with gdm set and 3 without it. But is it
there any program in debian that could manage this without breaking
the package system?
I'm afraid that if I uninstall gdm, it won't find the K01gdm I've put
in /etc/rc3.d to stop gdm.

Thanks

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Re: Where is the grub floppy?

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:20:49PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:


> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:56:10PM -0500, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
> > On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
> > > Hello all. I am attempting to install the Hurd, but the link to the grub
> > > floppy on the Easy Guide is broken. So where do I get the GRUB floppy 
> > > image
> > > from?
> > > 
> > > Also, is there anything  I should watch out for with reagrds to e2fsprogs
> > > versions? I am running woody.
> 
> You can just install the GRUB package under woody, then go from there...
> I did it a month or so ago, and with some fiddling got it all set up
> nicely.  I haven't tried the Hurd yet, 'cause there's no ppp (AFAIK).

You can boot hurd under vmware and then use the virtual network
setting up a gateway to connect to internet.

I haven't tried this, but should work.

Bye!

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Re: Where is the grub floppy?

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:14:21PM -0500, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:

> Hello all. I am attempting to install the Hurd, but the link to the grub
> floppy on the Easy Guide is broken. So where do I get the GRUB floppy image
> from?

Install the grub woddy package and then 'info grub'. You will find
instructions on how to install it on a floppy or on the hard disk (as
I have it, and works really fine).
Take a look to:

 http://jmmv.cjb.net/hurd

I wrote an info manual about installing the hurd; it can help you in
grub setup to the hard disk.

> Also, is there anything  I should watch out for with reagrds to e2fsprogs
> versions? I am running woody.

I use the slink e2fsprogs version to create the partition; woody one
seems not to work.

Bye!

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
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Re: why can gcc find -lcrypt but not -lcfont (both in /lib)?

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:42:51PM -0400, Daniel Barclay wrote:

Simply because the -l option links static libraries, those which end
in .a and not dynamic ones (.so).

When you try to compile with libcrypt, it not uses the one in /lib; it
uses the /usr/lib/libcrypt.a instead. 

The same happens with libdb... you have libdb1.a but not libdb2.a.

I don't know what you have to do to use dynamic shared libraries, but
it is a completly different thing that static ones.

Hope this help.

> 
> How can I find out exactly where gcc and ld look for libraries? 
> 
> The manual pages mention a default search mechanism, but never say exactly 
> what that is, how it works (where it's configured on Linux or specifically 
> Debian), or what the default search directories are.
> 
> 
> The problem I'm having is that gcc seems to see some libraries in /lib and 
> not others, and similarly sees some libraries in /usr/lib but not others.
> 
> 
> For example, /lib contains both libcrypt and libctutils:
> 
> -rw-r--r--1 root root20112 Aug 14 18:11 
> /lib/libcrypt-2.1.3.so
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 Aug 14 18:11 
> /lib/libcrypt.so.1 -> libcrypt-2.1.3.so
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 Aug 14 18:11 
> /lib/libctutils.so.0 -> libctutils.so.0.0.0
> -rw-r--r--1 root root18252 Aug 14 18:11 
> /lib/libctutils.so.0.0.0
> 
> but gcc can see libcrypt:
> 
> $ gcc test.c -lcrypt
> $
> 
> and not libctutils:
> 
> $ gcc test.c -lctutils
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lctutils
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> $
> 
> 
> Similarly, /usr/lib contains both libdb1 and libdb2:
> 
> -rw-r--r--1 root root80582 May  1 14:27 /usr/lib/libdb1.a
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 Aug 14 22:51 
> /usr/lib/libdb1.so -> /lib/libdb1.so.2
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Aug 14 18:10 
> /usr/lib/libdb2.so.2 -> libdb2.so.2.7.7
> -rw-r--r--1 root root   278604 Aug 14 18:10 
> /usr/lib/libdb2.so.2.7.7
> 
> but gcc can see only libdb1 but not libdb2:
> 
> $ gcc test.c -ldb1
> $ gcc test.c -ldb2
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb2
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> $ 
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> (I've run ldconfig, but does that make any difference for compiling
> and linking (vs. linking at load time)?)
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Daniel
> -- 
> Daniel Barclay
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> http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
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RE: /etc/rcx.d... how should be setup?

[Jason Holland]

Use the command update-rc.d, you can easily manage the rc directories with
it

jason

>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to ask a question that has come to my mind...
>
> How should be the /etc/rcx.d directories managed ? (replace x with a
> number)
> I currently have runlevel 2 with gdm set and 3 without it. But is it
> there any program in debian that could manage this without breaking
> the package system?
> I'm afraid that if I uninstall gdm, it won't find the K01gdm I've put
> in /etc/rc3.d to stop gdm.
>
> Thanks
>

Portuguese charsets and fonts

[Leonardo Dias]

There's something wrong with Debian kbdconfig and kbd package.

I've tried this more than once: I choose the br-abnt2 keymap using
kbdconfig. The keymap is loaded and dead keys starts working. Only that
whenever I try to do a "'a", for example, it doesn't return a "á". I've
tried changing fonts and even then, nothing happens.

What could possibly be wrong with Debian? Locale settings?

Thanks for your help.

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Catho Online
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Running X from /usr/local

[scott worley]

Hi,

I built XFree86 4.0.1 from source and installed into /usr/local with 
ProjectRoot=/usr/local/X11R6 and EtcX11Directory=ProjectRoot/etc.

When I run /usr/local/X11R6/bin/startx I don't believe I'm starting X 4.0.1.  
This startx has on its last line xinit ... without any path.  Since my default 
path has /usr/bin/X11R6 in it won't this start the old X?

Should I put /usr/local/X11R6/bin as the lead in my PATH?

Also, do I need to update /etc/ld.so.conf with the /usr/local entries for X4 
and is the order important in ld.so.conf?

Thanks,
scott worley
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Linux hates rodents

[racuti1]

Dear Developer, Technician, User, 
etc...,
 
I have sucessfully installed Debian Linux, and 
Xwindows. My mouse however does not work. I have tried to configure it in 
the
xf86config program, I have tried several types of 
mice/trackballs from the Logitech 3-button/scroll-wheel trackmarble to a plain 
two-button mouse. I have tried every choice for mice offered by xf86config but 
my mice won't work in Xwindows.
 
In the two days I've been working with Linux, I can 
see how superior it is. Please help me figure this one out so I can keep 
learning.
 
Respectfully,
 
Richard P. Acuti

teTeX output looks bad. Any ideas?

[Debian User]

Hello fellow Debian users,

 I've recently did a clean install of stable, and I've run into
 a problem. The problem is that LaTeX/dvips-produced PostScript
 files, when printed appear to be at a lower resolution than they
 really are. More specifically, it looks like the fonts produced
 by MetaFont somehow use bad approximations or something. I've
 use texconfig to set mode to 1200DPI, but still, the output's
 fonts are jagged at best.

 Here's what I've tried so far to find the culprit:

  I've commented out printer-specific filter from printcap
  (magicfilter's LaserJet 4050 filter) No effect. Files that lpr
  gets already have badly formed fonts.

  I've printed plain text (which comes out in printer's own PS
  font). Output is good-looking, which means that the problem
  is not caused by physical damage to the printer (it was moved
  recently).

  I've made sure the files are actually generated at 1200DPI.
  They are  .

  I've viewed the PS files at 10x in anti-aliased mode in GV,
  and they looked much better than on paper. That maybe gv's
  anti-aliasing at work, or could be something else. Dunno.

  I've printed with cmr PS fonts embedded in the PS file, and
  they still look crappy.

  Printer's resolution is actually set to 1200DPI.

Any ideas???

I know I can print good LaTeX files, and I know what they look
like, as I've already used stable, only it was an upgrade from
2.1, not a clean install like it is now.

Thank you.

supported hardware

[Dimitar Vassilev]

I am thinking of installing Debian on my PC.
Could somebody send me a list of supported hardware?
Thanks,
Dimitar

Strange Post-install linkage Potato to RH6.2

[Tim Wood]

Hi,
   I've just installed Potato onto my laptop in a multi-boot
configuration.

With LILO only configured for Potato on /dev/hda2 I can reboot with no
problems but once LILO is configured for Win98 on /dev/hda1 and RH6.2 on
/dev/hda5 modprobe complains about "Can't open dependencies file
/lib/modules/2.2.14-12/modules.deb"

RH6.2 is using kernel 2.2.14-12 and Potato 2.2.17. The modules.deb is in
/lib/modules/2.2.17.

Running debconf comes up with no modules. I tried putting a symbolic
link of 2.2.17 to 2.2.14-12 but that did not work.

Does anybody know how to fix this?

TIA,
Tim

Re: rewrite and change document root on apache

[Erdmut Pfeifer]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> thank you Craig,
> I've setup Document Root for each virtual host on
>  /var/www/www.virtualhost1.com
>
> I made stats for each virtual host on
> /var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com
> 
> On Apache I want to forward http://virtualhost1.com/stats to
> /var/reports/virtualhost1.com
> 
> I've setup:
> 
> Alias/reports/  /var/reports/
> RewriteRule  ^/stats(.*)/reports/%{SERVER_NAME}$1
> 
> but Alias has no effect on rewrite and is looking from default Document
> Root:
> /var/www/www.virtualhost1.com/reports/www.virtualhost1.com
> 
> and produces a 404  :(
> 
> 
> bests,
> jaume.

Hi,

( I just saw this on the archives ... as I'm not subscribed to the list,
I don't know whether someone already answered this, anyway: )

try putting [PT] (pass-through) at the end of the line with the rewrite
rule. This has the effect of giving mod_alias also a chance to process
the URL...

RewriteRule  ^/stats(.*)/reports/%{SERVER_NAME}$1  [PT]

In this particular case: why not directly rewrite it to
"/var/reports/..."?


Hope that helps,

-- 
Erdmut Pfeifer
science+computing gmbh

-- Bugs come in through open windows. Keep Windows shut! --

Netscape Network Print Command

[complaw]

Okay, this may not be the best forum, but I know that some of you have run into
this before...

I'm using Netscape on a network.  I have a printer set up (lp35) to which I can
print things just fine from, say, enscript (using -Plp35).  However, the same
-Plp35 returns an "unrecognized option" error.  Does anyone know the magic
incantation so that I can print from Netscape.

Thanks in
advance.

Re: Grainy Gnome

[Morten Liebach]

On  6, sep, 2000 at 02:13:18 +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
> I'm not sure what's causing this but my X settings looks grainy on Gnome 
> (using
> Sawmill for wm).  To be check if helix-gnome is supposed to look grainy I
> booted to Win2K and went to helixcode's website.  There I saw what helix gnome
> is really supposed to look and I like what I saw.  So my question is:
> 
> How can I remove the grainyness out of my X install?
> 
> I have 2.2 and installed helix-gnome from spidermonkey .deb files and I have a
> 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X vidcard with 8MB ram and using 1024x768 res and 32 bpp.
> 
> My resolution is no problem it's only this grainy texture that bothers me.

Long shot: are you _absolutely_ sure you use 32bpp?

I've had the ``grainy experience'' too, and all was well when I set:

DefaultColorDepth 32

in my /etc/X11/XF86Config. It turned out I had used 8bpp before.
If this doesn't help I don't know, sorry. it works very well here.

Regards
Morten

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RE: supported hardware

[Jason Holland]

If your hardware is listed somewhere on this page, debian will work

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html

Jason


> 
> I am thinking of installing Debian on my PC.
> Could somebody send me a list of supported hardware?
> Thanks,
> Dimitar
> 
> 
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> 

.bashrc question

[Debian Ghost]

Hello All,
Ghost here. Recently switched from ksh to bash and have a question.
When I open up an Eterm, it does not seem to be reading my .bashrc
properly. For one, I have the lines:

eval `dircolors`
alias ls='ls --color'

# set a fancy prompt

PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\'>

Basically all I want to do is set the prompt from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> (I prefer to see > to $)

Also, wish to have my ls = ls --color. Both of these things are not
working. It almost seems as if my .bashrc is ignored.

Can anyone give bash advice?

Thank$ a lot!

Debian Ghost

'space ghost with a drop of water'

RE: .bashrc question

[Pollywog]

Put in your user .bash_profile:

source $HOME/.bashrc

On 06-Sep-2000 Debian Ghost wrote:
> 
> Also, wish to have my ls = ls --color. Both of these things are not
> working. It almost seems as if my .bashrc is ignored.
> 
> Can anyone give bash advice?
> 
> Thank$ a lot!
> 
> Debian Ghost
> 
> 'space ghost with a drop of water'

Re: Linux hates rodents

[Andrew Porter]

I had this problem; it went away when I purged gpm; 
gpm, as configured in Debian (but not in Redhat) interferes with X's mouse.

- andrew porter, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Help with XFree86 4.0.1 and Gnome-calendar

[James Carscadden]

Hi there..,

I am having trouble running gnome calendar under XFree86 v 4.0.1. I get
the error:

Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation


Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1


Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1

This repeats a few times then the program segfaults. Same thing happens
with gmc and a few other programs. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

James Carscadden

Re: .bashrc question

[Paul D. Smith]

%% Debian Ghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  dg> Ghost here. Recently switched from ksh to bash and have a question.
  dg> When I open up an Eterm, it does not seem to be reading my .bashrc
  dg> properly.

  dg> Can anyone give bash advice?

The bash man page is _VERY_ comprehensive and well-written.

Run "man bash" and look at the section "INVOCATION".  You will learn
everything there this to know about bash invocations and lots of useful
info on shell invocation in general.  This is very valuable information;
don't skimp :).

In particular, look at the paragraphs discussing the invocation of bash
as "sh"; it sounds like that's how you have your login set up.

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Re: rewrite and change document root on apache

[Jaume Teixi]

thanks Erdmut

now on my rule 've

RewriteRule  ^/stats(.*)/var/reports/%{SERVER_NAME}$1  [PT]

on the rewrite log I see:

rewrite /stats -> /var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com/
'/var/reports/virtualhost1.com/' to get passed through to next API 
URI-to-filename
handler

and then appears a 404 again :(

obviously  /var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com/ exists on my system and has a
index.html on it !




>
> > I've setup Document Root for each virtual host on
> >  /var/www/www.virtualhost1.com
> >
> > I made stats for each virtual host on
> > /var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com
> >
> > On Apache I want to forward http://virtualhost1.com/stats to
> > /var/reports/virtualhost1.com
>

--
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Administrador de Sistemes
6TEMS - Ducform, SA
http://www.6tems.com

Re: Linux hates rodents

[Preben Randhol]

racuti1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/09/2000 (15:52) :
> Dear Developer, Technician, User, etc...,
> 
> I have sucessfully installed Debian Linux, and Xwindows. My mouse however 
> does not work. I have tried to configure it in the
> xf86config program, I have tried several types of mice/trackballs from the 
> Logitech 3-button/scroll-wheel trackmarble to a plain two-button mouse. I 
> have tried every choice for mice offered by xf86config but my mice won't work 
> in Xwindows.
> 
> In the two days I've been working with Linux, I can see how superior it is. 
> Please help me figure this one out so I can keep learning.


Do (as root) :

/etc/init.d/gpm stop
update-rc.d -f gpm remove

then reconfigure X (if needed) and start X up again.

-- 
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"i too once thought that when proved wrong that i lost somehow"
   - i was hoping, alanis morisette

Re: Linux hates rodents

[Marcus Crafter]

Hi!

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, racuti1 wrote:

> I have sucessfully installed Debian Linux, and Xwindows. My mouse however 
> does not work. I have tried to configure it in the
> xf86config program, I have tried several types of mice/trackballs from the 
> Logitech 3-button/scroll-wheel trackmarble to a plain two-button mouse. I 
> have tried every choice for mice offered by xf86config but my mice won't work 
> in Xwindows.

Mouses can be troublesome, but they *do* work. Trust me! :-)

Make sure you have mouse support compiled into your kernel. My
logitech mouse is a psaux mouse - you'll need ps auxillary support
compiled into your kernel for this to work.

If you have GPM (console mouse manager software) installed things will
be a bit trickier depending on your mouse, however gpm mirrors mouse
signals on /dev/gpmdata so you can read you mouse signals from there
if you have (and want to leave) gpm installed.

XF86 also has an 'auto' feature where it will automatically detect your
mouse type (I haven't used this feature as I specify it directly) - or
you could use XF86Setup to check and change your mouse configuration
at runtime in X.

Otherwise, we'll need a little bit more info about your situation like
a specific mouse, your /etc/gpm.conf if you have one, and your
/etc/X11/XF86Config file.

Cheers,

Marcus

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OT - I/O and CPU load

[Brian Stults]

Hello,

I'm sorry that this is off-topic, but I think many people here would be
able to answer this question easily.  The unix system in my research
center has a file server with 4 CPUs.  I don't know all the specifics of
the machine, but my question is rather general anyway.  Basically, the
file server is the fastest of all the Sun stations by far, so everyone
logs into it to run their jobs.  Some of these jobs last for several
days and are very processor intensive.  It "feels" to me like my I/O
intensive jobs slow down when these processor-intensive jobs are
running.  However, our sysadmin insists that cpu-intensive jobs will
have no effect on I/O intensive jobs.  Is this generally true?  

Thanks very much for any information you can give me.  I would like to
make the case that the file server should be just a file server and that
all these week-long jobs should be run somewhere else, but I just don't
know if that is a valid argument.

Thanks,
Brian
-- 

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Doctoral Candidate
Department of Sociology
University at Albany - SUNY
Phone: (518) 442-4652  Fax: (518) 442-4936
Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452

Re: Firewall/IP-masquerading

[Gary Hennigan]

Willi Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Willi Dyck wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't understand the world (Debian)anymore.
> > > > As soon as I compile things like
> > > > - ip firewalling
> > > > - ip masquerading
> > > > - ip forwarding into the kernel, I can't ping any host by it's name.
> > > > I am able to ping IP's. Seems like a DNS Lookup failure. But why??
> > > > I didn't changed any file I only compiled the features listed above.
> > > > When I boot the old kernel again the problem seems to be gone.
> > > > WHY??? What is the logical thing here???
> > > > Thanx for your help.
> >
>Gary Hennigan writes: 
> > My guess is that you've got a chain in the default rules that's
> > blocking DNS access. DNS access isn't a simple one to block/unblock,
> > if I remember correctly. Just look at the logs (/var/log/syslog) and
> > see if any of the output rules, with a source inside your LAN, is
> > being denied. Personally, if I were you I'd get PMFirewall,
> 
> I have no chains blocking DNS access, I'm only blocking telnet and
> netbios.
> And /var/log/syslog isn't saying a word about ipchains. I wonder if my
> firewall script was started at startup/links are set. How to check it?

ipchains -L 

will show you all the chains you have installed. Also, in Debian
potato, there's ipchains-save which prints out all the installed chains
in a format that can be restored via ipchains-restore.

Gary

X don't work

[Adrian Nims]

I want to make X work under Debian. I have Debian 2.2 Potato with kernel
2.2.17. After I removed gpm, after I configured X with xf86config (after
SuperProbe saw my S3 Trio3D/2x with 4096 Kbytes of RAM video board), X start
and freeze. You have attached the output of X at start in x.out and
XF86Config file.
Can someone tell me where is the problem and why X freeeze and don't start ?

Thank you,
Adrian Nims


x.out
Description: Binary data


XF86Config
Description: Binary data

Re: rewrite and change document root on apache

[Jaume Teixi]

problem is that

Document Root for each virtual host is on
  /var/www/www.virtualhost1.com
and I'm trying to forward http://www.virtualhost1.com/stats  to 
  /var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com

so rewrite rule

RewriteRule  ^/stats(.*)/var/reports/%{SERVER_NAME}$1  [PT]

really looks for
  /var/www/www.virtualhost1.com/var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com

not to
/var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com


how to handle this:(  


bests&thanks,
jaume.

Re: Debian vs. Red Hat

[Chris Gray]

Paul,

> 
> > It's to anyone,  I've mainly used Debian, because of it's
> > stability, but our
> > ISP has a contractor who's opinion is   "Red Hat's the best,
> > thats why they
> > are so popular."  I want to dipute this, but I need more than just my own
> 
> It is my experience most people feel whatever they are familiar with is the
> best for situation.  I don't think I know *that* much about debian.  I do
> know .deb is worlds better than .rpm.  When it comes to debian, you are
> talking to the choir.

However, dpkg is worlds slower and takes up worlds more memory than rpm.  

> The install of debian was (is?) pretty painful.  Compared to redhat, it is
> monumental for the uninitiated.  I recommend Storm or Corel for the
> installation challenged.  I think their install easily rivals Redhat.  It
> can't get much easier than Corel.  Storm is not far behind.  Both
> (especially Storm) offer apt-get (auto install and maintenance of packages)
> with a high degree of debian compatibility.

I had a rough time installing Corel and my boss wouldn't even allow me
to install Stormix.  On the other hand, it took me about 5 minutes to
get a good working Debian installed.  Things that are easy to one person
are not to another.

> Just my biased two cents.

Mine too.

Cheers,
Chris

mIRC

[Timothy C. Phan]

hi,

  is there a mIRC for Linux or specifically for Debian?  thanks!