>>>>> "Joachim" == Joachim Trinkwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
itz> window manager, and at present the only window manager with full itz> support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. Joachim> That's nonsense, many window managers have Gnome support now, Joachim> e.g. icewm-gnome, wmaker, sawfish-gnome. Joachim> Most integrated in Gnome is sawfish, which is configurable Joachim> through the Gnome control center. Sawfish seems to be quite Joachim> so lightweight; please try it out. Read the quote again. I wrote "the only wm with _full_ support" etc. If sawfish is "Most integrated", the others are necessarily "less integrated", or not? I don't want the wm and the desktop to step over each other, and that's precisely what happens with wmaker when the wmaker frills and the desktop frills overlap. I did omit to mention sawfish, for which I apologize. Another point is that I want to use the debianized versions of things where possible, and I think that's what the original question was about, too. I am sure many of the wm's have better Gnome support now in their bleeding edge versions, but I will not use them. -- Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A. In his own soul a man bears the source from which he draws all his sorrows and his joys. Sophocles.