Re: stupid question

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:59:59AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> b) you are running xdm or gdm or kdm or some other horrible variant of that
> horrible program. Yes? In which case the only advice I have is to get rid of
> it and return to a sane existence. dpkg -r xdm

Can you enlighten us on why you have such strong feelings about display
managers?  Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why.
Useless eye candy?  Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential
security hole?

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Re: stupid question

[Bob Bernstein]

On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:01:34PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:

> Can you enlighten us on why you have such strong feelings about display
> managers?  

I quit smoking a few weeks ago. So I am coming across much more vituperative
than I am when at my best. An excuse, I know, it's the best I can do. Ask my
wife what it's been like...

> Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why.
> Useless eye candy?  Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential
> security hole?

I avoid them because of precisely the sort of problem our interlocutor is
having. There are many tasks I prefer to do in the console, but I do as a
rule live in X. So the compromise for me is to go back and forth quickly and
easily, which means deepsix-ing xdm and its cousins.

Hopefully I'll calm down in a few years.

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atshould be indistinguishable from corporate 
Esmond, R.I., USA VPNs. Bless VPNs for creating all that 
  suspicious-looking encrypted traffic." D.Marti

[Fwd: stupid question]

[Mike McNally]

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When you've removed it, you simply type startx.  It's just another
widget to make linux more like windows... hence the disgust.  I am still
reeling from all the individual processes in Linux and the large
quantity of bootstraping scripts.  I don't want any clearly unnecessary
processes or scripts running, or ran at boot.  Why?  'cause I still
don't understand this thing... but I know I don't need xdm.

Disclaimer: 4 drinks consumed before this post may have affect my logic

mike


"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:59:59AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> > b) you are running xdm or gdm or kdm or some other horrible variant of that
> > horrible program. Yes? In which case the only advice I have is to get rid of
> > it and return to a sane existence. dpkg -r xdm
> 
> Can you enlighten us on why you have such strong feelings about display
> managers?  Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why.
> Useless eye candy?  Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential
> security hole?
> 
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Re: Help with Installation...

[Gutierrez Family]

Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux.  Now X starts up
!!  However, I have a new obstacle to clear...

X starts as expected via "startx", but the mouse will NOT respond.  I have
run "xf86config" several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to see
if I get lucky with others), but no good.  Here's a clue:  the last error
message from the X server says:

"Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate ioctl
for device)"

Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!?

Thanks again.

-- Daly

-Original Message-
From: Eric G . Miller 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Help with Installation...


>On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:05:48PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote:
>> Thank you for responding !!
>>
>> Quick answers and a few more questions...
>>
>> 1) I installed Debian 2.2 off a 3-CD set.  I booted the CD directly after
>> power up.  It is supposed to be the "official CD" set, which I bought
from
>> "Discount Linux CDs" (it's mentioned on the Debian.org website).  And to
>> answer your other question, the installation DID ask me to change CDs two
>> separate times.  One (I believe) was just to see which packages were on
all
>> three CDs, the second time was when it was actually installing the
necessary
>> files on my hard drive (here it asked me for CDs #1 and #2, it never
asked
>> me for #3).
>
>I think #3 is packages in source form.  I dunno for sure.
>
>> 2) I could swear that I went through the X configuration during the
install.
>> I remember answering questions about the mouse, sync ranges, resolutions,
>> color, etc.  I will take your advice and reconfigure X using "xf86setup",
I
>> have all the data I need.  I'll let you know the results...
>
>Sounds like you did then.  Did you say yes when xf86config prompted you
>to save the configuration file?  Maybe you didn't get something right? X
>is a real pain in the  to install/configure.  It's getting
>better with 4.0 (but that's not widely supported yet).
>
>> 3) You mention running dselect to fix the "broken" packages...  I'm new
to
>> Debian and the entire concept of dpkg/dselect/apg-get, etc.  I have only
a
>> general understanding.  My first question would be, how do I know which
>> packages were the broken ones???  I tried keeping a log of those
messages,
>> but soon realized that the scrolling was faster than I could write.
>
>dpkg -- The general package management tool (all others use it)
>
>apt  -- Advanced Package Tool (makes a nice front-end to dpkg,
>especially when updating packages for security fixes, for instance)
>
>dselect -- The older package management interface (can use apt or dpkg).
>It's still pretty useful for scrolling through packages and descriptions
>you might want to install.
>
>To find out the packages that are slated for installation, but aren't
>all the way properly installed, you can try this little one-liner.
>
>$ dpkg -l \* | grep '^i[^i]'
>  ^  ^
>   |   \_ [not] Installed [state]
>\_ Install [desired state]
>
>Sorry that's a bit obtuse, but it should work.
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security

[Mike McNally]

It concerns me when my machine grinds when I don't know why it's
grinding.  I run top and it says find is running.  Why?  I do a grep -r
find /etc/cr* and the only things that come up run per crontab.  Crontab
shows that all cron routines run around sunup... it's now 1:42 and my
linux box with a 24hr old install of debian was grinding at 1:10. 
Running ls -l /bin | grep rws I get:
-rws... root root for login mount ping ping6 su umount

Are all of these programs normally setoid?

mike

Re: Help with Installation...

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:32:49PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote:
> Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux.  Now X starts up
> !!  However, I have a new obstacle to clear...
> 
> X starts as expected via "startx", but the mouse will NOT respond.  I have
> run "xf86config" several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to see
> if I get lucky with others), but no good.  Here's a clue:  the last error
> message from the X server says:
> 
> "Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate ioctl
> for device)"
> 
> Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!?
> 
> Thanks again.

Well, you reported that the kernel reported that it detected a PS/2
mouse at boot.  If this is correct, then your mouse is a PS/2 (small
round plug vs. old serial port mouse or USB??).  Anyway, so /dev/psaux
should be correct.  At least two things come to mind why it won't work.

1.  If you have gpm running, is sometimes can interfere with X using the
mouse.  This sounds like it might be the case.  First, try killing gpm
by running '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' (as root, of course).  Then try again.
If that's the problem, then we can worry about having the two get along.

2.  You have not selected the correct mouse protocol.  Sometimes PS/2
mice require a different X mouse driver than PS/2.  This'd be the
"Protocol" part for the mouse in /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Some
possibilities include trying "Microsoft", "IntelliMouse", "MouseMan".

I suspect gpm, though.

If you don't have a PS/2 mouse then...

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RE: keyboardless operation

[J.T. Wenting]

correct. DIN style keyboards can be disabled in the BIOS, or else you can
just unplug them after the keyboard test (this might work with ps/2
keyboards also). You just need it plugged in until the OS starts loading
after the POST. After that, pull the plug (or cut the wire if you are
hopeless with finding the correct one ;) ).

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> -Original Message-
> From: Philip C Mendelsohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 September 2000 05:00
> To: Debian User
> Subject: Re: keyboardless operation
>
>
> Is this an AT style keyboard?  I found that some if not all older AT
> keyboards need to be present for the system to complete the
> BIOS boot seq.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Phil Mendelsohn
>
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Lazar Fleysher wrote:
>
> > It stops after "Console: colour VGA+ 80x25"... basically
> the first boot
> > message..
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote:
> >
> > > where does the system stop booting ? i have many machines
> without a
> > > keyboard running they run fine. i read that linux 2.4 is
> including new
> > > code to enable systems withouyt keyboards to
> boot..probably a kernel
> > > workaround for what the bios should handle on it's
> own(and does handle
> > > on the vast majority of boards made in the past 5 years)
> > >
> > > nate
> > >
> > > Lazar Fleysher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > HI
> > > >
> > > > I would like to operate a machine without a keyboard
> (in server mode)
> > > > The keyboard is disabled in bios, but the system does
> not boot without it.
> > > > Should I compile the kernel in a special way?
> >
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Re: security

[Nate Amsden]

the program that is running is the updatedb program it updates the
locate database. can take quite a while on slower systems(30+minutes
sometimes) usually runs around 6am. what it does is finds every file on
the system and puts it in an easy to use database see the man page for
locate.

it also may run if your system clock was way off and you just updated
it, cron may think its been too long since it ran so it runs it. ive
seen times when if the clock was off by several months and then updated
cron can go nuts and launch everything driving the load to 8 or higher
:)

it is normal though. im not sure if the locate database is critical or
not i just let it run on my systems. i suspect it is not vital to system
operation.

nate

Mike McNally wrote:
> 
> It concerns me when my machine grinds when I don't know why it's
> grinding.  I run top and it says find is running.  Why?  I do a grep -r
> find /etc/cr* and the only things that come up run per crontab.  Crontab
> shows that all cron routines run around sunup... it's now 1:42 and my
> linux box with a 24hr old install of debian was grinding at 1:10.
> Running ls -l /bin | grep rws I get:
> -rws... root root for login mount ping ping6 su umount
> 
> Are all of these programs normally setoid?
> 
> mike
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Re: security

[Ethan Benson]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 01:46:51AM -0500, Mike McNally wrote:
> It concerns me when my machine grinds when I don't know why it's
> grinding.  I run top and it says find is running.  Why?  I do a grep -r
> find /etc/cr* and the only things that come up run per crontab.  Crontab
> shows that all cron routines run around sunup... it's now 1:42 and my
> linux box with a 24hr old install of debian was grinding at 1:10. 

is your clock correct?  or perhaps you have anacron installed which
runs cron jobs approximatly whenever it feels like it.

the find process is normal, i think its the locate database being
rebuilt.  all my debian boxes do the same thing (except at 6:25, i
don't use anacron)

> Running ls -l /bin | grep rws I get:
> -rws... root root for login mount ping ping6 su umount
> 
> Are all of these programs normally setoid?

yes these are normal, ping and ping6 (the ipv6 varient i guess) need
to be suid root in order to open a raw socket.  login needs to be suid
root if you want to be able to do things like exec login to login as a
new user without logging out first (rather pointless IMO and it only
works on console ttys) mount and umount only need to be suid root if
you have `user' /etc/fstab entries, such as /cdrom or /floppy, this
way ordinary users can mount and umount the CDROM or floppy.  su has
to be suid root in order to work at all (changing uid's requires root 
privilege).  

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486DX Install

[Gregg C]

I have an old AST 486DX (23Meg RAM/170MegHD) that I have been using as a 
router for a few months. I installed 2.2 back when it was frozen, or maybe 
even a month or so before. I had no problems with it, until I compiled a new 
kernel for it, and for some reason the map file was screwed up, so I decided 
the quickest thing to do was reinstall. But now I can't get the eepro module 
to recognize the IntelEtherExpress NIC. Previously it worked fine. I tried 
some old 2.1 base floppies, and it worked fine, so it can't be the hardware 
itself. I pass no arguments to the driver, never have.


One problem I can see is that just after I boot and read in the RAMdisk it 
flashes a dozen lines with :


/lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.depmodprobe   no such directory or file

There is nothing in /var/log/messages. And I have rewritten the floppies, 
and used new ones, and I downloaded images from ftp.debian.org and tried 
them too (I had used ftp.ca.debian.org on the first try).


What does that missing file do?

After booting and just starting dbootstrap, should there be anything else in 
/lib/modules/2.2.17? (on the RAM disk, not in /target/. )


The funny thing is the 3com509 NIC works fine under 2.1 and 2.2. Its just 
that 2.2 wont see the Intel Nic, but 2.1 sees it fine.


I checked the compac and ide-pci boot disks, but I don't think they would be 
very useful on this box, but maybe I could try them anyway.


Thanks

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Re: wmaker menu problem

[Jean-Philippe Guerard]

Le 2000-09-01 23:45:30 -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer écrivait :
> I am using potato and windowmaker.  I have run into a problem recently where
> my menu has disappeared.  When one right-clicks on the mouse I should have a
> dialog box appear but nothing happens.  Anyone have a clue what I can try to
> fix the menu?  This happens as root or as a user.  It has disappeared 
> globally.

You might want to check that /etc/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu
is a text file containing :

"menu.hook"

Hope it helps.

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md5sum from sources -linux-.

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Can some one indicate how to build and install the md5sum from sources?
It seems not to be available as a deb package, and I have failed
miserably at doing it, after downloading from
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/crypt/hash/mds/md5/
It gives me some crap after I run gcc md5c.c
Why don't we have it as a deb file? Please help.

Re: md5sum from sources -linux-.

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

On Sun, 03 Sep 2000 06:01:14 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

>Why don't we have it as a deb file?

$ dpkg -S md5sum
dpkg: /usr/bin/md5sum
dpkg: /usr/share/man/ja/man1/md5sum.1.gz
dpkg: /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz

So we DO have it as a deb file, it should already be present on your system 
since it's marked "required?!" Maybe you accidentially removed it, so try re-
installing it...


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Re: I hosed my network

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:39:22PM -0500, Cliff Rice wrote:

:First, thanks for the reply. The only changes were the recent updates
:in potato wrt to Netscape and libc.  However, before I was working on
:my ipchains rule sets.  At times the link would fail, which I ascribed
:to some bad rules.  So... it was flaky starting last week.  Not
:sure if it matters but the ipchains -L command would get stuck at
:times.  From the error messages,  it at first glance seems that my
:routing is messed up.  The routing tables *seem* OK, but of course
:I could be overlooking something, which is what I wanted to have
:double checked.  If the routing is OK, then yes, the cable could be
:bad or even one of the cards, I suppose. 

Try removing ipchains from the equation, (ipchains -F will do it) this
will make it clear if the rules are at fault.



:> In either case are there link lights on your ethernet cards and are
:> they lit?  maybe we wire went bad.
:
:Well the link light is on, but the ACK and COL lights are not on .
:The ACK light may indicate something, but I'd reckon the COL light
:means "collision" which I supoose should not be on.  


The link light is a good indication that the cable not bad (don't know
if it's 100%, but close)  ACK is probably the activity indicator,
unfortunate but not surprising that you don't see any.

The routing is fine, the entry for 127.0.0.0 on thor's lo is odd,
maybe a woody thing, but shouldn't get you any trouble, you need to
add leif (is that the other machine's name) as a gateway if you want
it to do ip masq, but that's only one the net is back up...

Hope it's your ipchains,
Jon

Re: md5sum from sources -linux-.

[A.R.]

After your previous message I did dpkg -S and I got the same as you
said. Then I realized that for some reason /usr/bin was not in the path
for root (who I was to use cdrecord). It was the cause for not getting
anything. Now, compare

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s md5sum
Package `md5sum' is not installed and no info is available.

Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

with

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S md5sum
debhelper: /usr/bin/dh_md5sums
dpkg: /usr/bin/md5sum
dpkg: /usr/share/man/ja/man1/md5sum.1.gz
debhelper: /usr/share/man/man1/dh_md5sums.1.gz
dpkg: /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

I really did not realize the difference: form "s" to "S". Anyway, thanks
a lot for the pointers, because i really had some missing. Thanks again.


"Ralf G. R. Bergs" wrote:
> 
> Antonio,
> 
> On Sun, 03 Sep 2000 06:29:53 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> >Would you indicate what line includes the pointer to it? I can get it from my
> >official cds therefore, but I would like to know what I have misssing in my
> >sources.list, so if you can provide an example of yours I will appreciate it.
> 
> sure, I can provide you w/ a copy of mine:
> 
> deb http://FTP.Uni-Erlangen.DE/pub/Linux/DEBIAN stable main contrib non-free
> deb http://FTP.Uni-Erlangen.DE/pub/Linux/DEBIAN stable/non-US contrib main
> non-free
> deb http://FTP.Uni-Erlangen.DE/pub/Linux/DEBIAN dists/proposed-updates/
> deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates contrib main non-free
> 
> I hope this is helpful,
> 
> Ralf
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Re: I hosed my network

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

in last message s/leif/loki/;

that must be your problem, naming one of your machines after a trixter
god, rename to odin or hiemdal and try again :)

-jon

Re: logitech trackman marble+

[Phillip Deackes]

Nate Amsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> X has built in support for it.
> 
> here's my pointer section from XF86Config
> Section "Pointer"
>   Protocol "IMPS/2"
>   Device "/dev/psaux"
>   Buttons 5
>   ZaxisMapping 4 5
> EndSection
> 
> then use the program imwheel to scroll it maps the wheel for ya. been
> usin it on many machines for a year or 2 and it works great. (all
> logitech trackman marble wheel)

I tried this with my Logitech Trackman Marble mouse and it didn't work.
All that happened wa that my mouse pointer stuck at the top right of the
X display and didn't do anything.

I downloaded the imwhhel app using apt-get.

You say 'use the imwheel program to scroll' - I am not sure what to do
with inwheel - I read the DEBIAN readme which came with it and put the
relevant files etc. into /etc/X11/imwheel and /etc/X11/Xsession. Tried
to run 'imwheel' in X but without the mose couldn't open an xterm to
type it in!

Is there something I am not doing? Is IMPS/2 available in X or do I need
to compile it in/fetch it from somewhere?

Cheers.


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SysVinit problem?

[Bruce Richardson]

Just installed Potato onto my work laptop and it's mostly working great
but there's one odd thing which, since I've never used Debian before,
I'm not sure is an error or a feature.

All the user runlevel directories, /etc/rc1.d/ through to /etc/rc5.d/,
have exactly the same contents and they're all start scripts, no kill
scripts.  If I telinit from (for example) runlevel 2 to 4, nothing
happens except for the "sending a term/kill signal to all processes"
message.  The console I type it at stays the same but all the other ttys
freeze until I telinit back to the original runlevel.

This seems odd behaviour and it feels as if something didn't configure
properly during installation.

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A tcl question.

[Shaul Karl]

* The problem: 
I want an existent tcl/tk program to get a default value for the MANPATH 
environment variable when it is called even when the environment does not 
define it, and without changing the env. Further more, I rather prefix the 
program code then write a wrapper script.

* My suggestion: 
To prefix the existent program with the lines:
if {![info exists env(MANPATH)] || [string equal [string trim $env(MANPATH)] 
""]} {
set env(MANPATH) [ exec /usr/bin/manpath ];}

* The question:
Is this a reasonable || good || bad solution?

* Reason for asking: 
I am new to tcl.

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Re: SysVinit problem?

[Henrique M Holschuh]

On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> All the user runlevel directories, /etc/rc1.d/ through to /etc/rc5.d/,
> have exactly the same contents and they're all start scripts, no kill
> scripts.  If I telinit from (for example) runlevel 2 to 4, nothing
> happens except for the "sending a term/kill signal to all processes"
> message.  The console I type it at stays the same but all the other ttys
> freeze until I telinit back to the original runlevel.

This is ok, Debian doesn't use runlevels 3-5 for anything by default AFAIK,
and they're mostly equal to runlevel 2 (I think /etc/inittab has some stuff
which is different, simply to show it can do that).

BTW, there's an utterly braindamaged behaviour in many (most?) daemon
packages during upgrade: They will start their daemons regardless of the
current runlevel, so keep this in mind during upgrades if you hand-trimmed
your runlevels to actually mean something.

Proposing a fix to this is in my TODO list. The code is rather easy, really,
but requires a policy change as almost all packages who have something in
/etc/init.d will have to be fixed.

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short-key in /etc/inittab

[Sven Burgener]

Hello

I have happily been using the Alt-Up key-combination, which can be
configured in /etc/inittab:

-- /etc/inittab snippet --
# Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow).
#kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo "Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this work."
kb::kbrequest:/usr/sbin/pppd call bw ipparam mail
-- /etc/inittab snippet --

Now, is there any way for utilizing more of those? Like 
Alt-{Down,Left,Right,Whatever} or some other key-combination?

Cheers
Sven
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magicfilter vs. apsfilter

[Erik van der Meulen]

I have installed lprng and now want to add an imputfilter. I have used
magicfilter in the past, but now apsfilter seems to be a popular choise.
I would like to know which is my best option.
My requirements seem simple, I have a laptop running Potato and Helix
Gnome. I need to print to the lpd system on my server and the occasional
stand alone printer when traveling. This means that I would like to be
able to change printer definitions quite easily.

Thanks a lot.

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crontab control?

[Ron Farrer]

Hello;

What controls when '/etc/cron.daily/*' gets run? I thought it was
'/etc/crontab' but for some reason it doesn't run at the times I
specified. 


TIA,

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Re: ssh from nt?

[Jon Hughes]

I'm gonna toss in my two cents since I use this from
work:)  I use a progrm called 'PenguiNet', you can
grab it from Downloads.com.  It's not exactly free,
thefree version has little ads at the top, but you
ignore them  after a while, but the registration is
something like only 20 bucks.

Anyhow, features I like: it can simulate linux
consoles (I can get linuxconf to appear very nicely
and other things with graphics in teh consoles),
supports the new SSH, and it'll let you open up
multiple windows inside the program (Ie, you wont have
three seperate applications for each window), very
nice at my work place.


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> Greetings,
> 
> At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc. 
> We use a package called
> KEA as our main telnet/term package.  Does anyone
> have any experience getting
> KEA to use any sort of ssh?  Alternatively, does
> anyone know of a windows
> terminal package that is completely freeware that
> can use ssh?  I would really like to shut down my
> open telnet port and use ssh if I can.
> 
> Bill
> 
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Re: crontab control?

[Mike McNally]

anacron
see man anacron and /etc/anacrontab

mike

Ron Farrer wrote:
> 
> Hello;
> 
> What controls when '/etc/cron.daily/*' gets run? I thought it was
> '/etc/crontab' but for some reason it doesn't run at the times I
> specified.

Re: 486DX Install

[Pann McCuaig]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:18, Gregg C wrote:
> I have an old AST 486DX (23Meg RAM/170MegHD) that I have been using as a 
> router for a few months. I installed 2.2 back when it was frozen, or maybe 
> even a month or so before. I had no problems with it, until I compiled a new 
> kernel for it, and for some reason the map file was screwed up, so I decided 
> the quickest thing to do was reinstall. But now I can't get the eepro module 
> to recognize the IntelEtherExpress NIC. Previously it worked fine. I tried 
> some old 2.1 base floppies, and it worked fine, so it can't be the hardware 
> itself. I pass no arguments to the driver, never have.

This may be a problem with the kernel on the boot floppies you're using.
There are several sets of boot floppies with different configurations.
Try another one. IIRC either "compact" or "idepci" solved a similar
problem for me.

Luck,
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Re: SysVinit problem?

[Bruce Richardson]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> 
> This is ok, Debian doesn't use runlevels 3-5 for anything by default AFAIK,
> and they're mostly equal to runlevel 2 (I think /etc/inittab has some stuff
> which is different, simply to show it can do that).

I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the
freezing ttys.  I can't believe that it's intended behaviour.

> 
> BTW, there's an utterly braindamaged behaviour in many (most?) daemon
> packages during upgrade: They will start their daemons regardless of the
> current runlevel, so keep this in mind during upgrades if you hand-trimmed
> your runlevels to actually mean something.

Hmmm.  A newly installed package won't know which levels you want it
running in but one being upgrade ought to be able to check.

> 
> Proposing a fix to this is in my TODO list. The code is rather easy, really,
> but requires a policy change as almost all packages who have something in
> /etc/init.d will have to be fixed.

I'm new to Debian and only just finished reading the policy docs atc.
I suppose some extended version of update-rc.d is the thing for that.




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Re: crontab control?

[Ron Farrer]

Mike McNally ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> anacron
> see man anacron and /etc/anacrontab

Ahh thanks! Another question for the list: can I safely remove anacron?
I really dislike the time it runs at and the system is up 24 x 7 so cron
can do it's job correctly. 


TIA,

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RE: Please remove me from the subscription list......

[I. Tura]

At 17.02 2/9/00 -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans ha escrit:
>
>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact 
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>Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < 
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>Tell me, which of these sets of instructions is more clear?  Which is more
>helpful to a newbie with limited Unix/Linux experience who's probably
>never used shell redirection in his/her life? 

The first one. 

I'd bet that the user that asks for unsubscribing to other users, does 
not
have arrived to configure the email under Debian.

But the second one is instructive and cool-debianist.




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Re: Help with Installation...

[I. Tura]

At 23.32 2/9/00 -0700, Gutierrez Family ha escrit:
>Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux.  Now X starts up
>!!  However, I have a new obstacle to clear...
>
>X starts as expected via "startx", but the mouse will NOT respond.  I have
>run "xf86config" several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to see
>if I get lucky with others), but no good.  Here's a clue:  the last error
>message from the X server says:
>
>"Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate ioctl
>for device)"
>
>Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!?
>

A nice way is to run again XF86Setup and trying mouse configurations and
applying them, until every part of the mouse works. 
If you've spent lots of time setting the XF86Config file, make a copy of
it, accept the changes done by XF86Setup when you've found your
configuration. Exit and edit by hand your original XF86Config, copying just
the mouse parameters of the file that your most recent XF86Setup has
created. Return the old XF86Config to its place and the mouse will run
under X.


hth,


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networking problem

[Mike McNally]

New install of deb2.2.17.  Freshly compiled kernel.  
2boxes: deb fwall & samba server;  w98 box
ppp0 to dialup;  eth0 between boxes (w/hub)

running ppp0 & then pmfirewall start & masqstart
the route lines for ppp0 are automatically run (what script does this?)
but... the eth0 route is not added (should have been added at boot)

question:  what script was it that used to automatically add the eth0
route line in my last install of the same ver linux?  Should I fix up 
the scripts or add the route lines to /etc/network/interfaces?  Is it 
a problem that I don't have a file named /etc/networks... (I remember 
one from my last install containing a line like: localdomain ip)?  


ifconfig -a
--
dummy Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
  BROADCAST NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:CC:29:7D:08  
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x6000 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
  RX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
  inet addr:209.252.177.100  P-t-P:209.254.124.213 
Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:145 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:2
  TX packets:153 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 




route -n
--
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
ppp0
0.0.0.0 209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
ppp0



interfaces
--
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
iface lo inet loopback

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255

Re: SysVinit problem?

[Henrique M Holschuh]

On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the
> freezing ttys.  I can't believe that it's intended behaviour.

It is not, but it may be either something weird in /etc/inittab (I seem to
recall some ttys aren't restarted in all runlevels by default. They WILL
freeze), or your tty driver is bonkers (I recommend fbgetty for consoles,
mgetty for serial lines).

> > BTW, there's an utterly braindamaged behaviour in many (most?) daemon
> > packages during upgrade: They will start their daemons regardless of the
> > current runlevel, so keep this in mind during upgrades if you hand-trimmed
> > your runlevels to actually mean something.
> 
> Hmmm.  A newly installed package won't know which levels you want it
> running in but one being upgrade ought to be able to check.

My point exactly.

> > Proposing a fix to this is in my TODO list. The code is rather easy, really,
> > but requires a policy change as almost all packages who have something in
> > /etc/init.d will have to be fixed.
> 
> I'm new to Debian and only just finished reading the policy docs atc.
> I suppose some extended version of update-rc.d is the thing for that.

Yes, and the new script would be provided by the file-rc and sysvinit
packages (and any other future /etc/init.d wrappers/handlers).

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Re: SSH Obsolete?

[Daniel Whelan]

> > This is OpenSSH (from non-us.debian.org).  Is there an OpenSSH2
> > package?  If so, it's not showing up in dselect.  In fact, other than this
> > package (which is marked obsolete) no other ssh packages show up: except
> > "qmtpssh", which is not what I'm looking for.
> 
> If you're interested in OpenSSH 2.1.something, you can fetch the Woody
> packages, you need ssh, ssh-askpass(-gnome) and libssl095 AFAIR.

Isn't the currently debianized ssh2 package the "official" ssh2 (i.e.
non-free, sucky licensed one) as opposed to the OpenSSH 2 version? Are
there debian packages of the latter hiding someplace?

Daniel

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Re: stupid question

[Paul D. Smith]

%% Bob Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  >> Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why.
  >> Useless eye candy?  Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential
  >> security hole?

  bb> I avoid them because of precisely the sort of problem our
  bb> interlocutor is having. There are many tasks I prefer to do in the
  bb> console, but I do as a rule live in X. So the compromise for me is
  bb> to go back and forth quickly and easily, which means deepsix-ing
  bb> xdm and its cousins.

Hmm.  I have no opinions on display managers, really; at work I don't
use one but at home I use GDM, so my wife, who's a Windows person, can
reboot or shut down the system without remember how to login as root
(GDM has a reboot selection on the login screen).

Anyway, going back and forth between X and the tty in Linux is best
accomplished (IMO) with C-A-F1,2,3,4 etc., vs. C-A-F7, so the use or
non-use of a display manager shouldn't have anything to do with
this... ?

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Re: stupid question

[Dave Sherohman]

Bob Bernstein said:
> I avoid them because of precisely the sort of problem our interlocutor is
> having. There are many tasks I prefer to do in the console, but I do as a
> rule live in X. So the compromise for me is to go back and forth quickly and
> easily, which means deepsix-ing xdm and its cousins.

If going back and forth between 'in X' and 'at a text console, but with X
still running offscreen' is good enough for you, try Ctrl-Alt-Fn (for n =
1-6)i and Alt-F7 to get back to X.  If you feel the need to go between
'in X' and 'X not running', then getting rid of *dm is appropriate (though
you could also use `/etc/init.d/*dm stop`, do your console stuff, and
`/etc/init.d/*dm start`).

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Re: crontab control?

[Dave Sherohman]

Ron Farrer said:
> Ahh thanks! Another question for the list: can I safely remove anacron?
> I really dislike the time it runs at and the system is up 24 x 7 so cron
> can do it's job correctly. 

anacron is primarily intended for systems that are only up intermittently.
IMO, there's no reason to run it on an always-on system.

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envelope/label printing program

[John Anderson]

Does anyone know of a program that can print on envelopes, labels, roledex
cards, etc.  I have a wonderful one for Dos called "Envelopes Plus," but I
cannot find one for Linux/Unix.  I would like to find one so I wouldn't
have to use DOS at all.  Any suggestions?


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Re: nfs and firewall

[Carel Fellinger]

On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Phil Brutsche wrote:
> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
> 
> > Hai,
> > 
> > I'm trying to secure my system, I ran pmfirewall and some tests.
> > It seems that rpc.mountd still listens on port 1024 even on the
> > outgoing ethernet.
...
> I would remove the nfs-server (or nfs-kernel-server, whichever you have
> installed) package.  You don't need that package to connect to an NFS
> server; only if you're going to *be* the NFS server do you need it.

Okee, removed it.

> > local machine. In the end I also think of letting the firewall machine
> > act as a local mail and news server (is that deemed secure?).
> 
> It can be a bad thing: I call having "too many" services on one system
> "too many eggs in one basket".  I've seen situations in the past where an
> exploit in one piece of software will expose the entire system to the
> attacker, and let him/her gain access to all that computer offers.

agreed, but...
I only want to run it as a local service, not as a service to the net.
The reason being that my firewall is the only machine on 24/7, so it
seems the logical place to provide *local-only* services to my localnet.
But being new to this securing thingy I don't know whether such a setup
would compromise security, neither do I know how to disable internet
access to those services, and how rigidly that can be done. I've a lot
of reading to do:)

-- 
groetjes, carel

Re: nfs and firewall

[Carel Fellinger]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:01:09AM +0200, Sebastian Ritter wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> 
> > Hai,
> > 
> > I'm trying to secure my system, I ran pmfirewall and some tests.
> > It seems that rpc.mountd still listens on port 1024 even on the
> > outgoing ethernet.
'''
> You can find a lot of informations on how to set up Firewalls in the
> IPCHAINS-HOWTO. You can find that document under http://www.linuxdoc.org/.

I know, I'm reading it. But it takes time to fully understand it:(

> Using the firewall as a mail and news server is extremely dangerous. The
> best firewall would be a dedicated machine which ONLY acts as a
> firewall and does nothing more. I think any company that's a little bit
> nervous about security should afford that.

I'm not a company:), and I never intent to provide internet services.
Those services are for the localnet only! I want them to get denied on
the external (internet) ethernet. I don't know yet whether that still
compromises security (I've a lot of reading to do:), so for the time
being I would appreciate a verdict from a more experienced person.
Do you think that even in the above situation local only mail/news
services are a bad thing? And is that because once you get cracked
the cracker has access to your local news and mail spool?

> It seems to me that you are very new to IP security. I'd strongly advise
> you to buy external support or read lots of related books, e. g. "Building
> Internet Firewalls 2nd Edition" by O'Reilly to gain the basic 
> skills. Otherwise it's very likely that you'll get cracked. ;-)

I've no money to spent on this, so I will have to read and read and read...
It's just that in the mean time i would prefer to have a safe machine:)
I understood from reading sofar that as long as you don't expose any service
to the outside world you are safe, don't know for sure yet though.

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Re: envelope/label printing program

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 02:10:47PM -0400, John Anderson wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program that can print on envelopes, labels, roledex
> cards, etc.  I have a wonderful one for Dos called "Envelopes Plus," but I
> cannot find one for Linux/Unix.  I would like to find one so I wouldn't
> have to use DOS at all.  Any suggestions?

You might be interested in the labels package for LaTeX.  It's mostly
designed for printing on standard page sizes that have peel-off labels
or will be cut.  With the geometry package you can probably accomodate
non-standard page sizes like various envelopes...

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Re: wmaker menu problem

[Wayne Topa]

Subject: wmaker menu problem
Date: Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:45:30PM -0500

In reply to:Lance Hoffmeyer

Quoting Lance Hoffmeyer([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
lanceh> I am using potato and windowmaker.  I have run into a problem recently 
where
lanceh> my menu has disappeared.  When one right-clicks on the mouse I should 
have a
lanceh> dialog box appear but nothing happens.  Anyone have a clue what I can 
try to
lanceh> fix the menu?  This happens as root or as a user.  It has disappeared 
globally.
lanceh> 
lanceh> Lance

  I just upgraded and I have the same problem.

/etc/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu does contain "menu.hook".

It happened after the upgrade on 8/30.

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Re: wmaker menu problem

[Wayne Topa]

Subject: wmaker menu problem
Date: Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:45:30PM -0500

In reply to:Lance Hoffmeyer

Quoting Lance Hoffmeyer([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
lanceh> I am using potato and windowmaker.  I have run into a problem recently 
where
lanceh> my menu has disappeared.  When one right-clicks on the mouse I should 
have a
lanceh> dialog box appear but nothing happens.  Anyone have a clue what I can 
try to
lanceh> fix the menu?  This happens as root or as a user.  It has disappeared 
globally.
lanceh> 
lanceh> Lance

Followup to my last post.

I moved my home GNUstep Directory to 1-GNUstep and ran X again.  It
now works fine, even had a nice Debian Theme.  It looks like the last
upgrade changed something in /etc/GNUstep but not in the home GNUstep
directory.  


:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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Re: newbie question concerning linux install

[Paul T.McNally]

Richard Swen wrote:


 


NTFS:  5GB
NTFS:  4GB
Linux Swap: 256MB
Linux EXT2: 4GB
 


Are you contemplating dual dooting between Windows NT and
Linux? NT does not like to share the machine with other
operating systems. Hard to believe isn't it? I was completely
shocked when I tried once. It really changed my perception
of Microsoft. I don't know if things will ever be the same now.

Refer to Running Linux 3rd Edition O'Reilly & Assoc. pgs 134-135.
If you don't have a copy and you are a newbie, get it. The end
result is you will probably want to boot Linux from a diskette.

Paul

Re: networking problem

[Mike McNally]

route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
success (but isn't this supposed to be done by a bootup script ifup?)

ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
failure

Maybe pty/kernel_config problem?

mike


Mike McNally wrote:
> 
> New install of deb2.2.17.  Freshly compiled kernel.
> 2boxes: deb fwall & samba server;  w98 box
> ppp0 to dialup;  eth0 between boxes (w/hub)
> 
> running ppp0 & then pmfirewall start & masqstart
> the route lines for ppp0 are automatically run (what script does this?)
> but... the eth0 route is not added (should have been added at boot)
> 
> question:  what script was it that used to automatically add the eth0
> route line in my last install of the same ver linux?  Should I fix up
> the scripts or add the route lines to /etc/network/interfaces?  Is it
> a problem that I don't have a file named /etc/networks... (I remember
> one from my last install containing a line like: localdomain ip)?
> 
> ifconfig -a
> --
> dummy Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
>   BROADCAST NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> 
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:CC:29:7D:08
>   inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x6000
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
>   RX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> 
> ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
>   inet addr:209.252.177.100  P-t-P:209.254.124.213
> Mask:255.255.255.255
>   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:145 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:2
>   TX packets:153 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:10
> 
> route -n
> --
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
> Iface
> 209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
> ppp0
> 0.0.0.0 209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
> ppp0
> 
> interfaces
> --
> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
> 
> # The loopback interface
> iface lo inet loopback
> 
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.1.1
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.1.0
> broadcast 192.168.1.255
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sendmail vs. virtusertable

[Stefan Ott]

hello

i posted a mail about sendmail problems some months ago. one of the
problems could be solved, the other one tracked down to the
virtusertable feature.

if i include FEATURE(virtusertable) in sendmail.mc i can't write
directly to the users anymore. this means that mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't arrive ("User unknown"), mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (forwarding to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) works
fine.

when i remove the virtusertable feature, everything is ok, but i need
that feature.

the system is potato, sendmail 8.9.3-23 and procmail 3.13.1-3

i couldn't find anything in the mailing list archive, the bug tracking
system and on deja.com, so i'd really apreciate any help.

please reply directly, as i'm not on debian-user.

thanks for your help

regards
stefan
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Re: newbie question concerning linux install

[Pollywog]

On 03-Sep-2000 Paul T.McNally wrote:
>> 
> Are you contemplating dual dooting between Windows NT and
> Linux? NT does not like to share the machine with other
> operating systems. Hard to believe isn't it? I was completely
> shocked when I tried once. It really changed my perception
> of Microsoft. I don't know if things will ever be the same now.
Not hard to believe at all.
Maybe MicroBilly does not want people to try different OS's.

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Re: SysVinit problem?

[Bruce Richardson]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 01:42:17PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> > I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the
> > freezing ttys.  I can't believe that it's intended behaviour.
> 
> It is not, but it may be either something weird in /etc/inittab (I seem to
> recall some ttys aren't restarted in all runlevels by default. They WILL
> freeze)

Aye, that is the case.  Only tty1 is restarted in all 5 levels, the
others only in 2 or 3.  This seems bizarre and arbitrary, seeing that
otherwise the runlevels are identical.

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If the universe were simple enough to be understood, we would be too
simple to understand it.

gtk/libpixmap?

[Danny Barron]

Friday I decided to refsck my filesystems and start clean (every year or
two seems a good time to clean my accumulated cruft out).
I'm now plagued with gtk warnings like this one for many of my gtk
programs:
Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libpixmap.so"

What do I need to do to fix this ? 
 I'm running Woody (and have been for
as long as woody has been around) and am not at all averse to compiling things
to fix it.  I thought it was a gnome-libs library...however, I'm not sure of
that, since programs like gtk-licq are complainging also.
If it takes just recompiling gtk+-1.2.8 to fix it...that's fine too,
however, I'm trying to break myself of accumulating non-dpkg installed
stuff on my system (see cruft above).
Thanks
Danny Barron

 

Re: networking problem

[Sven Burgener]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 02:28:30PM -0500, Mike McNally wrote:
> route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
> success (but isn't this supposed to be done by a bootup script ifup?)

Sorry to butt into the middle of this thread like this, but I shouldn't 
the default route be re-set by "ifup -a"?

If I set the default route to a different ethX interface, it doesn't get 
re-set onto the original eth0 if I do "/etc/init.d/networking restart", 
which is rather annoying.

What am I missing?

Thanks
Sven
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RE: newbie question concerning linux install

[J.T. Wenting]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 September 2000 21:42
> To: debian-users
> Subject: Re: newbie question concerning linux install
>
>
>
> On 03-Sep-2000 Paul T.McNally wrote:
> >>
> > Are you contemplating dual dooting between Windows NT and
> > Linux? NT does not like to share the machine with other
> > operating systems. Hard to believe isn't it? I was completely
> > shocked when I tried once. It really changed my perception
> > of Microsoft. I don't know if things will ever be the same now.
> Not hard to believe at all.
> Maybe MicroBilly does not want people to try different OS's.
>
He does want you to try other OSs, but rather to do it on a permanent
basis.iow, upgrade to Windows 2K, which is a rather nice OS IMO.

Linux still has a long way to go before it reaches the userfriendliness of
Windows, especially in the configuration department (and speed of GUIs,
though that has been improved over the last 2 years it seems, though that
may be me upgrading my system...).

[OFF TOPIC] Postscript Printer

[Vee-Eye]

I'm looking for a reliable and affordable postscript printer. I heard Lexmarks
Optra series could do the job. Does anyone has experience with those or could
recommend me another one that fits in the nice "reli- and affordable" category?

Thanks in advance,

MH
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Re: networking problem

[Mike McNally]

Trying Sven's ifup -a
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable

I think I goofed up the kernel compile.  I remember being unsure of
questions 
regarding pty unix98

dmesg | pty 
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured

but I kind of recall not adding all modules concerning the pty code...

anybody think that's the problem?

mike



Sven Burgener wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 02:28:30PM -0500, Mike McNally wrote:
> > route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
> > success (but isn't this supposed to be done by a bootup script ifup?)
> 
> Sorry to butt into the middle of this thread like this, but I shouldn't
> the default route be re-set by "ifup -a"?
> 
> If I set the default route to a different ethX interface, it doesn't get
> re-set onto the original eth0 if I do "/etc/init.d/networking restart",
> which is rather annoying.
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks
> Sven
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Re: crontab control?

[Ron Farrer]

Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Ron Farrer said:
> > Ahh thanks! Another question for the list: can I safely remove anacron?
> > I really dislike the time it runs at and the system is up 24 x 7 so cron
> > can do it's job correctly. 
> 
> anacron is primarily intended for systems that are only up intermittently.
> IMO, there's no reason to run it on an always-on system.

I know this, that is why I *asked* if it can be safely removed? I would
just like to purge it but want to make sure it wont fubar anything? 


Thanks,

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reformatting MBR

[John Anderson]

I am having an error messages such as "No operating system" or, 40 40
40... on the screen after the hard disk jumpers were not set up correctly.  
What is the command to redo the master boot record?


John Kerr Anderson 
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Debian GNU/Linux 2.2   

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Postscript Printer

[William Jensen]

Michael,

I picked up the Lexmark Optra E312 and couldn't be happier.  The text is very
sharp and getting it working with debian was a complete breeze (once I knew
what to do).

Bill

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:05:44PM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm looking for a reliable and affordable postscript printer. I heard Lexmarks
> Optra series could do the job. Does anyone has experience with those or could
> recommend me another one that fits in the nice "reli- and affordable" 
> category?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> MH
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Re: reformatting MBR

[ktb]

On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, John Anderson wrote:
> I am having an error messages such as "No operating system" or, 40 40
> 40... on the screen after the hard disk jumpers were not set up correctly.  
> What is the command to redo the master boot record?
> 

Using windows fdisk --

fdisk /MBR

is the command.
hth,
kent

Re: access to /var/log/messages

[John Galt]

Have you considered uncommenting the "log to ttyv" line in syslog.conf,
then you don't need to play around with perms?  If you MUST elevate user
privs, try "sudo" first rather than making your user GID 0--you can gain
all the functionality you need, but don't open yourself to another
compromisable "800 pound gorilla account".


On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote:

> Greetings Debians,
> 
> I'd like to give access to the directory /var/log/messages to my user account
> so I can watch what messages are being displayed there.  I'd do this with tail
> -f /var/log/messages.  Problem is my user accnt has no permissions on that
> directory.  I could change the permissions on the directory itself but then
> any other user can look into that data and I'd rather not have that.
> Therefore is it wise policy to add my user account to the 'root' group?  Would
> that solve the problem while maintaining system security?  Or is there a
> better way of achieving this?  And how would I go about adding myself to the
> root group...modify /etc/group?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 

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Re: ssh from nt?

[John Galt]

TeraTerm.  I couldn't live without it.  

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc.  We use a package called
> KEA as our main telnet/term package.  Does anyone have any experience getting
> KEA to use any sort of ssh?  Alternatively, does anyone know of a windows
> terminal package that is completely freeware that can use ssh?  I would 
> really like to shut down my open telnet port and use ssh if I can.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 

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Re: reformatting MBR

[Nate Amsden]

just re-load lilo into the MBR just make sure your lilo.conf is
configured right

to install to the MBR use the line:

boot=/dev/hda

to install to the primary, master hd, change accordingly for other
drives.

nate

John Anderson wrote:
> 
> I am having an error messages such as "No operating system" or, 40 40
> 40... on the screen after the hard disk jumpers were not set up correctly.
> What is the command to redo the master boot record?
> 
> 
> John Kerr Anderson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
> 
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Potato splitvt not working

[Wayne Topa]

  Does anyone have splitvt running on Potato?  I have it running fine
on Slink but when I run it on Potato I get the error: 
No available pseudo terminals
That is on a console or an xterm.

I have CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y, CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y, and
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256 in the kernel (2.2.16 & .17).  I also
have /dev/ptyp[0-9].  These are all set on Slink as well as Potato.

I have checked the docs but can't locate any mention of a change
from Slink.  As the "NOTES" file mentioned in the README is not
included in the distribution, I can't check it for any 'hints' as to
what the problem might be.

Any suggestions appreciated.

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Re: logitech trackman marble+

[Nate Amsden]

Phillip Deackes wrote:

> I tried this with my Logitech Trackman Marble mouse and it didn't work.
> All that happened wa that my mouse pointer stuck at the top right of the
> X display and didn't do anything.

may have to configure it through GPM see this page for other solutions

http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/


> You say 'use the imwheel program to scroll' - I am not sure what to do
> with inwheel - I read the DEBIAN readme which came with it and put the
> relevant files etc. into /etc/X11/imwheel and /etc/X11/Xsession. Tried
> to run 'imwheel' in X but without the mose couldn't open an xterm to
> type it in!

for me i installed it, ran it, and it handles scrolling up and down, did
not have to do any configuration. i use afterstep so i just put it into
my autoexec to load when afterstep loads.

> 
> Is there something I am not doing? Is IMPS/2 available in X or do I need
> to compile it in/fetch it from somewhere?

IMPS/2 is part of X, although ive seen some instances(mainly with MS
wheel mice) where that protocol didn't work and a friend set up the
/dev/gpmdata stuff to get it working see the link above on other
protocols/ways to get the mouse to talk

nate


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Re: gtk/libpixmap?

[Andrei Ivanov]

Install gtk-pixmap-engine.
Andrei

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Re: newbie question concerning linux install

[Esko Lehtonen]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:04:28PM +0200, J.T. Wenting wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > ... Maybe MicroBilly does not want people to try different OS's.
> >
> He does want you to try other OSs, but rather to do it on a permanent
> basis.iow, upgrade to Windows 2K, which is a rather nice OS IMO.
> 
> Linux still has a long way to go before it reaches the userfriendliness of
> Windows, especially in the configuration department (and speed of GUIs,
> though that has been improved over the last 2 years it seems, though that
> may be me upgrading my system...).
 
At least you are able to configure Linux. If "wizards" failed in Windoze, 
I was almost never able to do it manually. With Linux you can do everything
you ever can dream, _if_ you know how to do it.

BTW, I think Linux has much richer and nicer (=ineffient, yes) GUIs than 
Windose.


Disclaimer: 
I have been tortured by crashing Windows 95 for many, many years and my 
mental stability may have been suffered, so my views may be too b&w.


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Re: System time

[kmself]

On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 08:44:44PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:23:59PM -0400, Thomas J. Hamman wrote:
> > I should add in that the change is usually by 5 hours, which is my
> > timezone's offset from GMT, so I've been wondering if maybe I
> > accidentally picked the wrong setting concerning the hardware clock
> > being set to GMT during installation.  I can't find where that setting
> > is configured though (and tzconfig doesn't include it).
> 
> Ahh, confusion about whether BIOS clock is in UTC or local time... Check
> /etc/default/rcS for the line "UTC=".  I suggest yes, and set
> your timezone accordingly for localtime.  Don't know if it matters, but
> if you have it, look at /proc/rtc.  It should give you an indication of
> how the kernel thinks system time is (24hr, DST, etc...). This should
> agree with your BIOS.  Also, is this a dual-boot Windows machine?  That
> can be a factor.  In fact, you might have to keep your system time in
> local time for them both to agree.

If you're dual-booting Linux and legacy MS Windows, you may also get a
timeshift, as MS Windows assumes BIOS clock is local time, not UTC.

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[ODDBJØRN KJELLBAKK]

Hello, i need driver to my etherlink xl 3 com,(pci) netcard, 
could you please help me
 
Oddbjørn Kjellbakk
Nordfold Norway

Odd Missing Apps in 2.2 Install

[Howard Arons]

OK, I'll admit upfront that I'm new to Debian, but OTOH not to Linux. I
installed 2.2 (compact kernel) without any *apparent* errors, but the
resulting install proved to be less than useful in some odd ways. I'm
too green at Debian to know a bug from a feature :-)

I chose a "simple" install, and picked the tasks relevant to my usage.
I use PPP dialup for my net connection, and do mostly e-mail, Net
browsing and some c/c++ compiles. Mostly I'm in a console, but I do use
X as well.

The install left out gpm, which I would have thought would be a
standard. Likewise lpr print spooling. After I installed lpr I
discovered that the lp.o module wasn't installed with the compact
kernel modules. And all the configuring failed to add /dev/lp0 to the
/etc/printcap file.

Of less importance (to me) was that although the VGA16 server is there,
I don't recall being asked for any other; e.g., svga. So, no X is run
by xdm.

And finally (at last), where does all that "user" tweaking go that SuSE
puts in /etc/rc.d/boot.local and halt.local? This is where, e.g.,
custom environmental vars are set. And where is the appropriate spot to
disable daemons I don't need/want, like inetd and atd? Do I edit the
/etc/init.d scripts?

New but still trying,
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Re: networking problem

[Mike McNally]

More problems which will hopefully present a clue

kernel: registered device ppp0
pppd[432]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
pppd[432]: Using interface ppp8
pppd[432]: Connect : ppp8 <--> /dev/ttyS1
pppd[432]: tcflush failed: input/output error
pppd[432]: Exit

ls /var/log/lock
nothing

tree /etc/ppp
nothing that would appear to hold locked device info

Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.17 does not match kernel data

What the heck does that mean?
Sounds like I messed up the kernel.  I'll try the last one and see if
that fixes ppp.  I added cslip module in case any networking functions
needed it.  Maybe that's what's foobar here.

mike


Mike McNally wrote:
> 
> Trying Sven's ifup -a
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
>

Re: envelope/label printing program

[W. Paul Mills]

It is not free, but --  wordperfect.


John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Does anyone know of a program that can print on envelopes, labels, roledex
: cards, etc.  I have a wonderful one for Dos called "Envelopes Plus," but I
: cannot find one for Linux/Unix.  I would like to find one so I wouldn't
: have to use DOS at all.  Any suggestions?

: 
: John Kerr Anderson 
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2   
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Re: SysVinit problem?

[W. Paul Mills]

Bruce Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
:> 
:> This is ok, Debian doesn't use runlevels 3-5 for anything by default AFAIK,
:> and they're mostly equal to runlevel 2 (I think /etc/inittab has some stuff
:> which is different, simply to show it can do that).

: I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the
: freezing ttys.  I can't believe that it's intended behaviour.


Look at /etc/inittab. Find the section on getty's. There is your
answer. Only one getty is run above runlevel 3.



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Re: I hosed my network

[Danny Pansters]

"No route to host" seems kinda weird, but since you can ping I don't think 
theres anything wrong with your hardware. Anyway, I like it when people RTFM, 
maybe I can be of some help.

loki:/etc# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
204.145.251.52  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0 ppp0
127.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0 lo
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
0.0.0.0 204.145.251.52  0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 ppp0

(I also don't like the double lo appearance in the other machines routing)

I'm missing an important piece of info: was your ppp0 interface up when 
trying to ftp between your two boxes and does it work ok, do you have 
Internet connectivity? It looks like the ppp is wrong. With a 0.0.0.0 netmask 
you don't set any network bits for the interface, this might explain why your 
ping -b did something (also note the longer ping time when pinging themselves)

Do you want to ping broadcast? Then -b
^^
PING 192.168.1.0 (192.168.1.0) from 192.168.1.2 : 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms

Note that .1 doesnt respond (it should also, al least mine does with a "DUP!" 
note). 

Does your /etc/host.conf have

order bind,hosts

(should be hosts,bind unless you're really doing exotic things on purpose)
in it? Are you running bind yourself? (don't)

Anyway, you should be using params like these:

.1 has an eth .1, no default gateway, the ppp interface should have its 
gateway set to its Internet IP address (dynamically if needed) or (better) to 
one of your ISP's router IPs. It should have the .2 box in its /etc/hosts 
file and it should have your ISPs DNS numbers in its /etc/resolv.conf. Ask 
them for the netmask you should use and then use it (or x.x.255.255 or so if 
you have no further info) on the ppp interface. Use the default entries for 
the lo device on both boxes, also leave the IP spoofing part in place in 
/etc/init.d/networking. Make sure /etc/host.allow and .deny are set up the 
way you want it, enable .2 to do stuff and keep the rest out.

Now .2 might want to have .1 as its gateway, that way (if you enable ip 
forwarding and masquerading on .1) you can use .1's Internet connection (I 
presume this is the final goal?). Don't use .1's Internet IP number anywhere 
in your setup, instead for .2, the Internet connectivity should be provided 
by .1 You can (and should unless your .1 runs bind) enter your ISP's 
nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf

Don't change the /etc/init.d/networking script too easily, instead use 
/etc/network/interfaces and the like, and restart the daemon everytime by 

# /etc/init.d/networking stop
# /etc/init.d/networking start

(I rather not use reload). If you'll do ipchains rules for your local net, 
/etc/init.d/networking might be a good place for that.

I think it's easier to check the setups once again than to find the exact 
problem from diagnostic output. I don't believe you have a hardware problem 
and certainly not an IRQ problem!!

The networking HOWTO will likely be needed.

Good luck,

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Re: stupid question

[Danny Pansters]

On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> If going back and forth between 'in X' and 'at a text console, but with X
> still running offscreen' is good enough for you, try Ctrl-Alt-Fn (for n =
> 1-6)i and Alt-F7 to get back to X.  If you feel the need to go between
> 'in X' and 'X not running', then getting rid of *dm is appropriate (though
> you could also use `/etc/init.d/*dm stop`, do your console stuff, and
> `/etc/init.d/*dm start`).

Exactly, then you can kill your xdm and your X and look into the problem at 
the first place. (then apt-get remove xdm ;-)


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Off-Topic? -> silly mutt question

[William Jensen]

After I chance to another folder within mutt the only way I have figured
out to get back to my 'inbox' is to change to the folder
/var/spool/mail/jensenb.  Does anyone know a shortcut to this?

Blushing,

Bill

Re: ssh from nt?

[Eric Hanchrow]

William Jensen sez:

>> At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc.  We use a
>> package called KEA as our main telnet/term package.  Does
>> anyone have any experience getting KEA to use any sort of ssh?
>> Alternatively, does anyone know of a windows terminal package
>> that is completely freeware that can use ssh?  I would really
>> like to shut down my open telnet port and use ssh if I can.

I've been using http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin>Cygwin32
along with a nice port of Open SSH from
ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin/porters/Vinschen_Corinna/V1.1.3/openssh-2.1.1p4-2.tar.gz
 
They work nicely, perhaps flawlessly.  Forwards X connections and so
on.

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Re: Off-Topic? -> silly mutt question

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:49:01PM -0500, William Jensen wrote:
> After I chance to another folder within mutt the only way I have
> figured out to get back to my 'inbox' is to change to the folder
> /var/spool/mail/jensenb.  Does anyone know a shortcut to this?

Enter   Does...

c   change folder
   defaults to selection /var/[spool/]mail/
 There you are... (That is your inbox unless you tell mutt
otherwise)

> 
> Blushing,
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
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Re: Off-Topic? -> silly mutt question

[Serge Rey]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:49:01PM -0500, William Jensen wrote:
> After I chance to another folder within mutt the only way I have figured
> out to get back to my 'inbox' is to change to the folder
> /var/spool/mail/jensenb.  Does anyone know a shortcut to this?

c!

(thats lower-case c and !)


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Re: Help with Installation...

[Gutierrez Family]

Although I don't exactly know what 'gpm' is... It may not be installed on my
system.  As you suggested, I tried running "/etc/init.d/gpm stop" as root
but I got an error message.  I think it said that the file didn't exist or
something.  In fact, in the /etc/init.d/ directory there isn't gpm anything.

As for using other mouse protocols, I think I've used them all without
success.  My mouse is a Logitech Trackman and it has a round connector (but
it plugs into my computer using an adaptor - round connector to 9-pin D sub)

It's been almost two days and I still haven't been able to get into X...
It's disappointing !!  I'm sure I'm doing something wrong or a bad
configuration or something...  Maybe with your help I can get it running
before the my 3-day weekend ends.

Thanks again.

-- Daly

By the way, what is the command to search for a specific filename, including
in all subdirectories?

-Original Message-
From: Eric G . Miller 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: Help with Installation...


>On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:32:49PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote:
>> Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux.  Now X starts
up
>> !!  However, I have a new obstacle to clear...
>>
>> X starts as expected via "startx", but the mouse will NOT respond.  I
have
>> run "xf86config" several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to
see
>> if I get lucky with others), but no good.  Here's a clue:  the last error
>> message from the X server says:
>>
>> "Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate
ioctl
>> for device)"
>>
>> Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>
>Well, you reported that the kernel reported that it detected a PS/2
>mouse at boot.  If this is correct, then your mouse is a PS/2 (small
>round plug vs. old serial port mouse or USB??).  Anyway, so /dev/psaux
>should be correct.  At least two things come to mind why it won't work.
>
>1.  If you have gpm running, is sometimes can interfere with X using the
>mouse.  This sounds like it might be the case.  First, try killing gpm
>by running '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' (as root, of course).  Then try again.
>If that's the problem, then we can worry about having the two get along.
>
>2.  You have not selected the correct mouse protocol.  Sometimes PS/2
>mice require a different X mouse driver than PS/2.  This'd be the
>"Protocol" part for the mouse in /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Some
>possibilities include trying "Microsoft", "IntelliMouse", "MouseMan".
>
>I suspect gpm, though.
>
>If you don't have a PS/2 mouse then...
>
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Re: Help with Installation...

[Mike McNally]

ls /usr/bin/gpm*
ls /usr/sbin/gpm*

gpmconfig is a very easy way to configure a mouse, but I'm not sure if
it will
help with the trackball.  Have you tried going to www.deja.com
discussions search, power search; enter linux.debian.user for forum and
type in trackball for subject. This should round up about every
conversation re trackball and debian.

mike


Gutierrez Family wrote:
> 
> Although I don't exactly know what 'gpm' is... It may not be installed on my
> system.  As you suggested, I tried running "/etc/init.d/gpm stop" as root
> but I got an error message.  I think it said that the file didn't exist or
> something.  In fact, in the /etc/init.d/ directory there isn't gpm anything.
> 
> As for using other mouse protocols, I think I've used them all without
> success.  My mouse is a Logitech Trackman and it has a round connector (but
> it plugs into my computer using an adaptor - round connector to 9-pin D sub)
> 
> It's been almost two days and I still haven't been able to get into X...
> It's disappointing !!  I'm sure I'm doing something wrong or a bad
> configuration or something...  Maybe with your help I can get it running
> before the my 3-day weekend ends.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> -- Daly
> 
> By the way, what is the command to search for a specific filename, including
> in all subdirectories?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric G . Miller 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 11:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Help with Installation...
> 
> >On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:32:49PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote:
> >> Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux.  Now X starts
> up
> >> !!  However, I have a new obstacle to clear...
> >>
> >> X starts as expected via "startx", but the mouse will NOT respond.  I
> have
> >> run "xf86config" several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to
> see
> >> if I get lucky with others), but no good.  Here's a clue:  the last error
> >> message from the X server says:
> >>
> >> "Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate
> ioctl
> >> for device)"
> >>
> >> Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!?
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >
> >Well, you reported that the kernel reported that it detected a PS/2
> >mouse at boot.  If this is correct, then your mouse is a PS/2 (small
> >round plug vs. old serial port mouse or USB??).  Anyway, so /dev/psaux
> >should be correct.  At least two things come to mind why it won't work.
> >
> >1.  If you have gpm running, is sometimes can interfere with X using the
> >mouse.  This sounds like it might be the case.  First, try killing gpm
> >by running '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' (as root, of course).  Then try again.
> >If that's the problem, then we can worry about having the two get along.
> >
> >2.  You have not selected the correct mouse protocol.  Sometimes PS/2
> >mice require a different X mouse driver than PS/2.  This'd be the
> >"Protocol" part for the mouse in /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Some
> >possibilities include trying "Microsoft", "IntelliMouse", "MouseMan".
> >
> >I suspect gpm, though.
> >
> >If you don't have a PS/2 mouse then...
> >
> >--
> >/bin/sh ~/.signature:
> >Command not found
> >
> >
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Re: nfs and firewall

[Sebastian Ritter]

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On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:01:09AM +0200, Sebastian Ritter wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> > 
> > > Hai,
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to secure my system, I ran pmfirewall and some tests.
> > > It seems that rpc.mountd still listens on port 1024 even on the
> > > outgoing ethernet.
> '''
> > You can find a lot of informations on how to set up Firewalls in the
> > IPCHAINS-HOWTO. You can find that document under http://www.linuxdoc.org/.
> 
> I know, I'm reading it. But it takes time to fully understand it:(

It's worth the time ;-)

> > Using the firewall as a mail and news server is extremely dangerous. The
> > best firewall would be a dedicated machine which ONLY acts as a
> > firewall and does nothing more. I think any company that's a little bit
> > nervous about security should afford that.
> 
> I'm not a company:), and I never intent to provide internet services.
> Those services are for the localnet only! I want them to get denied on
> the external (internet) ethernet. I don't know yet whether that still
> compromises security (I've a lot of reading to do:), so for the time
> being I would appreciate a verdict from a more experienced person.
> Do you think that even in the above situation local only mail/news
> services are a bad thing? And is that because once you get cracked
> the cracker has access to your local news and mail spool?

Oh, I thought you were a company because you spoke about a LAN, hmm, i've
got a LAN with three machines at home too... ;-)
Yeah, once you get cracked the cracker has access to mail and news spool,
but these services could also be used to break into the machine. Be sure
to watch out for the latest security updates for these services and 
that you do not offer these services to the internet, ONLY to the
internal LAN. Maybe you could read the debian-security-announce mailing
list to keep your software secure.

> > It seems to me that you are very new to IP security. I'd strongly advise
> > you to buy external support or read lots of related books, e. g. "Building
> > Internet Firewalls 2nd Edition" by O'Reilly to gain the basic 
> > skills. Otherwise it's very likely that you'll get cracked. ;-)
> 
> I've no money to spent on this, so I will have to read and read and read...
> It's just that in the mean time i would prefer to have a safe machine:)
> I understood from reading sofar that as long as you don't expose any service
> to the outside world you are safe, don't know for sure yet though.

A safe machine is never connected to the internet. ;-)
What you need to break into a system is a physical connection and enough
time. Even with the best firewall.
Just shut down all the services you don't need on the machine and set up
ipchains rules as described in IPCHAINS-HOWTO, that should be enough
security for a home machine I believe. And watch /var/log/messages for
strange things from time to time. That's even more secure than the
"fireholes" of many companies if you spend some time on it.
But for commercial use there are better solutions, but they are expensive
or not very easy to use or both... ;-)

Just my $0.02
  Sebastian

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strange /var/log/messages

[William Jensen]

Anyone have any idea what this is:

Sep  3 17:17:30 stimpy -- MARK --
Sep  3 17:37:30 stimpy -- MARK --
Sep  3 17:57:30 stimpy -- MARK --
Sep  3 18:17:30 stimpy -- MARK --
Sep  3 18:37:30 stimpy -- MARK --

I see those all day long.

Re: Help with Installation...

[Danny Pansters]

Did you try to run xf86config (the console app), I've sometimes been having 
trouble getting my ps2 mouse to work w/ xf86setup while after getting at 
least that part straight with xf86config it appeared as "already set before" 
in xf86setup which allowed me to finish my setup.

btw. xf86config isnt as hard as it seems, give it a go.

good luck,

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ricin.com

Re: Help with Installation...

[Danny Pansters]

Sorry there, I didn't read everything, you've already tried that.

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www.ricin.com

Re: strange /var/log/messages

[Danny Pansters]

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote:
> Anyone have any idea what this is:
>
> Sep  3 17:17:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> Sep  3 17:37:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> Sep  3 17:57:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> Sep  3 18:17:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> Sep  3 18:37:30 stimpy -- MARK --
>
> I see those all day long.

-- 

I have those too, I don't believe they mean anything bad is going on, but I 
also would like to know what exactly this is.

I always thought it were kernel messages relating to memory swapping or 
network checks or something.

Thanks,


Danny Pansters
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ricin.com

configuring X

[Rubbish5]

X is a big meanie :-)

Okay, well actually it's my own inability to configure my video properly (I 
*think* that's what's going on at least.)  So my setup:  I'm using Debian 
2.2.  I just did a full upgrade of whatever Debian's newest of everything is, 
so I'm not quite sure what version of X I've got, but I'm pretty much 
positive it's 3.6 or greater.  My computer is a Compaq Presario 1800XL 190 
Laptop.  My video card is an ATI Rage Mobility AGP, although when you really 
get into the diagnostics it's listed as "ATI Rage Mobility p", which is one 
of the cards I can choose when using xf86config.  I've been told what refresh 
rates to use by several people, and I haven't fried my monitor, so I'm set 
there.  As far as RAMDAC, I'm a little stuck there, the closest I found was a 
diagnostic that read "DAC: Internal" but I just type 'q' for that one since 
it says it can generally auto-detect.  Clockchip I do without, and I use the 
Mach-64 server, which is what my card is meant to be used with.  So the 
problem is really simple to describe :-)  I type 'startx' and I get a nice 
little flicker of what's probably X for aprox .5 seconds, and then the screen 
goes blank.  I can't power off my computer, so I have to yank the powercord 
and the battery out.  Ctrl + Alt + Backspace also does not work.  Any help is 
much appreciated!

-Chris

[no subject]

[Ratman]

I apologize if this is the wrong question for this list. I was told the
people here may be able to help me:

Im having a problem loading and installing X with Debian 2.1. After I
install X and use it once (and it works fine) the next time I reboot my
system will always hang at startup. The last message is "starting X font
server: xfsFontCacheInitialize hi=1048576 low=786432 bal = 70". At this
point I can ctr+alt+dlt but thats it. I cant get into another terminal
screen - it doesnt make it to the login screen.  Ive reinstalled debian
twice, and the same thing has happened. Ive looked around, and all my fonts
appear to be in the right place. I can boot into single user mode, but no
matter what I do, I still get that error when booting up normally.

This is my first experience with linux, so I dont even know if like, I can
uninstall the font server, and reinstall it, or how I would even do that.
Like I said, X seems to work great the first time. But after I reboot, I
cant get in. Someone told me I didnt need a font server. I thought I read
that I did. What exactly does it do?

Any help is greatly appreciated. I really want to start using Linux and
this is frusterating :)

LILO/Boot floppies

[Rubbish5]

I upgraded my Debian system today, so the kernel is the newest Debian's got 
up, but since I'm booting off a floppy right now, I'm still loading the old 
kernel.  I'm still a little stuck on getting LILO working.  I'm dual-booting 
Linux and Windows, and I chose Windows as default from hard disk.  Someone 
told me to edit LILO's config file and change "default" from win to linux.  
However, there is no default option so I can't do that.  My basic question(s) 
are: 1. How do I configure LILO so that, without a floppy or cd, I have the 
option on boot to choose which OS I want to load 2. how do I create a new 
Linux boot disk so that I can boot from disk with the new kernel?  Thanks 
much, bye!

-Chris

Re: security

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 01:46:51AM -0500, Mike McNally wrote:
> > It concerns me when my machine grinds when I don't know why it's
> > grinding.  I run top and it says find is running.  Why?  I do a grep
> -r
> > find /etc/cr* and the only things that come up run per crontab.
> Crontab
> > shows that all cron routines run around sunup... it's now 1:42 and my
> > linux box with a 24hr old install of debian was grinding at 1:10. 
> 
> is your clock correct?  or perhaps you have anacron installed which
> runs cron jobs approximatly whenever it feels like it.

Make that 5, 10 or 15 minutes after booting (if you use the default
configuration).  See `man anacrontab` and /etc/anacrontab.

> the find process is normal, i think its the locate database being
> rebuilt.  all my debian boxes do the same thing (except at 6:25, i
> don't use anacron)

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Re: I hosed my network (fixed)

[Cliff Rice]

On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:40:50AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:

Thanks,  I managed to get things up and going again by just bumping
the IP numbers of loki and thor up by one and the "redo from start"
techinique. Note to self, never do networks after 11:00 P.M

> (I also don't like the double lo appearance in the other machines routing)

Again, thanks,  I found the entry and deleted it.

> 
> I'm missing an important piece of info: was your ppp0 interface up when 


PPP/IP MASQ is working fine now that loki and thor are talking via
ethernet.
> 
> 
> Does your /etc/host.conf have
> 
> order bind,hosts

Yes, and no bind running here.  
> 
  
[snip]

> nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf

Yup, the ISP nameservers are in /etc/resolv.conf on both systems.

> 
> Don't change the /etc/init.d/networking script too easily, instead use 
> /etc/network/interfaces and the like, and restart the daemon everytime by 

Yes, I think this is where things went awry. I restored the networking script
from a backup and used /etc/network/interfaces. 

> 
> (I rather not use reload). If you'll do ipchains rules for your local net, 
> /etc/init.d/networking might be a good place for that.

> 
> The networking HOWTO will likely be needed.
> 

. and a pot of coffee helped also, I also stuck my hand on the
porch and applied a hammer for getting myself in this mess. 
  
 -- 
Cliff

Re: Help with Installation...

[John Hasler]

Daly writes:
> My mouse is a Logitech Trackman and it has a round connector (but it
> plugs into my computer using an adaptor - round connector to 9-pin D sub)

Then it is a serial mouse and, assuming you have it plugged in to COM1,
will be on /dev/ttyS0.
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Re: Potato splitvt not working

[Joey Hess]

Wayne Topa wrote:
>   Does anyone have splitvt running on Potato?  I have it running fine
>   on Slink but when I run it on Potato I get the error: 
>   No available pseudo terminals
>   That is on a console or an xterm.
> 
>   I have CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y, CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y, and
>   CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256 in the kernel (2.2.16 & .17).  I also
>   have /dev/ptyp[0-9].  These are all set on Slink as well as Potato.

Does mount show /dev/pts is mounted?

>   I have checked the docs but can't locate any mention of a change
>   from Slink.  As the "NOTES" file mentioned in the README is not
>   included in the distribution, I can't check it for any 'hints' as to
>   what the problem might be.

The NOTES file contains no useful information for linux systems.

-- 
see shy jo

Re: ssh from nt?

[Sebastian Ritter]

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On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote:

> At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc.  We use a package called
> KEA as our main telnet/term package.  Does anyone have any experience getting
> KEA to use any sort of ssh?  Alternatively, does anyone know of a windows
> terminal package that is completely freeware that can use ssh?  I
> would really like to shut down my open telnet port and use ssh if I can.

PuTTY is gpl'ed I believe. Well, I think it can be considered free
software. And it's a nice piece of software.

Just my $0.02
  Sebastian

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Re: Off-Topic? -> silly mutt question

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 04:14:45PM -0700, Serge Rey wrote:
:On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:49:01PM -0500, William Jensen wrote:
:> After I chance to another folder within mutt the only way I have figured
:> out to get back to my 'inbox' is to change to the folder
:> /var/spool/mail/jensenb.  Does anyone know a shortcut to this?
:
:c!

and I went to all the bother of making a symlink!

Re: strange /var/log/messages

[iehrenwald]

> > Sep  3 17:37:30 stimpy -- MARK --

Those are from syslogd.  I think it defaults to every 20 minutes making a
-- MARK -- in the logs.  I occasionally find them useful for finding out
an aprox. time when an even occured.  The interval can be changed with the
-m arg.

Ian Ehrenwald

Re: strange /var/log/messages

[Chris Gray]

On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:10:58AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote:
> > Anyone have any idea what this is:
> >
> > Sep  3 17:17:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> > Sep  3 17:37:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> > Sep  3 17:57:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> > Sep  3 18:17:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> > Sep  3 18:37:30 stimpy -- MARK --
> >
> > I see those all day long.
> 
> I have those too, I don't believe they mean anything bad is going on, but I 
> also would like to know what exactly this is.
> 
> I always thought it were kernel messages relating to memory swapping or 
> network checks or something.

They simply mean that the system is OK at the moment.  This information
could be useful in finding out when a system was last alive before it
crashed.  (Notice that they happen once every 20 minutes)

Cheers,
Chris

-- 
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softly in the brimming bowl.

Re: ssh from nt?

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:17:11AM +0200, Sebastian Ritter wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote:
> 
> > At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc.  We use a package called
> > KEA as our main telnet/term package.  Does anyone have any experience 
> > getting
> > KEA to use any sort of ssh?  Alternatively, does anyone know of a windows
> > terminal package that is completely freeware that can use ssh?  I
> > would really like to shut down my open telnet port and use ssh if I can.
> 
> PuTTY is gpl'ed I believe. Well, I think it can be considered free
> software. And it's a nice piece of software.

it is indeed Free software, but its not GPL, rather a BSD style
licence.  

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Re: Help with Installation...

[Gutierrez Family]

Success !

Thanks to all who have spent time helping me out.  I'm sure that if I had
given you the right information from the start, we would've resolved this a
while ago.  Sure enough, linking /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux was incorrect !!
As John pointed out, I really have a serial mouse.  When linking /dev/mouse
to /dev/ttyS0, all worked perfectly !!!

Again, thanks for your support.  I wish I could say that you won't be
hearing from me again, but it's probably NOT the case...  ;))

-- Daly

-Original Message-
From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Sunday, September 03, 2000 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Help with Installation...


>Daly writes:
>> My mouse is a Logitech Trackman and it has a round connector (but it
>> plugs into my computer using an adaptor - round connector to 9-pin D sub)
>
>Then it is a serial mouse and, assuming you have it plugged in to COM1,
>will be on /dev/ttyS0.
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Re: XFS problems

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

Whoa that's weird...

2.1 is going to be getting stale fast any reason you're not using 2.2?

I haven't the faintest idea why you're getting this problem, but
thought a descriptive subject line might bring more help :)

>From the package description:
_

 xfs is a daemon that listens on a network port and serves X fonts to
X servers
 (and thus to X clients).  All X servers have the ability to serve
locally
 installed fonts for themselves, but xfs makes it possible to offload
that job
 from the X server, and/or have a central repository of fonts on a
networked
 machine running xfs so that all the machines running X servers on a
network do
 not require their own set of fonts.  xfs may also be invoked by users
to, for
 instance, make available X fonts in user accounts that are not
available to
 the X server or to an already running system xfs.
_

Should be safe to uninstall:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg --purge xfs

To reinstall if needed:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get install xfs

HTH,
Jon


On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 08:40:07PM -0400, Ratman wrote:
:I apologize if this is the wrong question for this list. I was told the
:people here may be able to help me:
:
:Im having a problem loading and installing X with Debian 2.1. After I
:install X and use it once (and it works fine) the next time I reboot my
:system will always hang at startup. The last message is "starting X font
:server: xfsFontCacheInitialize hi=1048576 low=786432 bal = 70". At this
:point I can ctr+alt+dlt but thats it. I cant get into another terminal
:screen - it doesnt make it to the login screen.  Ive reinstalled debian
:twice, and the same thing has happened. Ive looked around, and all my fonts
:appear to be in the right place. I can boot into single user mode, but no
:matter what I do, I still get that error when booting up normally.
:
:This is my first experience with linux, so I dont even know if like, I can
:uninstall the font server, and reinstall it, or how I would even do that.
:Like I said, X seems to work great the first time. But after I reboot, I
:cant get in. Someone told me I didnt need a font server. I thought I read
:that I did. What exactly does it do?
:
:Any help is greatly appreciated. I really want to start using Linux and
:this is frusterating :)
:
:
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gmc + window maker bug?

[Patrice LaFlamme]

Whenever I run gmc (from the helix-gnome 1.2 preview 2) and Window Maker
0.62.1 (from woody), and I exit Window Maker without killing gmc first,
Window Maker crashes.

Is this a known bug?

Thanks,
Patrix.
==
http://www.patrix.org
"You can have Peace, or you can have Freedom. Don't ever count on having 
both at the same time." - Robert A. Heinlein

Re: DNS problem

[Nate Duehr]

On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 07:45:25PM -0400, Spinfire Magenta wrote:
> My own experiences with GraniteCanyon and Centralinfo.net left me
> using Centralinfo.  Granite canyon was more flakey and went up and
> down like a cheap whore on a busy night.

Not having any experience with either one, I can't give first-hand
information, however the bind-isc mailing lists are full of people
having problems with Granite Canyon on a regular basis, and I've never
seen (enough to notice anyway) any problems in those lists regarding
Centralinfo.

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Re: eth0: card reports no RX buffers. (eepro100)

[Nate Duehr]

Hi Nate!  :)

If it's any help for anyone smarter than I, I've seen this same problem
on a Dell GX100 with on-board EEPRO100 card and the Intel810i chipset
(which I know requires much joy and the agpart module loaded to get X
working) at the office...

A complete hardware restart usually clears it?

On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:28:41PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:
> This started happening recently. Sometimes when i boot up my screen
> floods with :
> 
> eth0: card reports no RX buffers.
> eth0: card reports no resources.
> eth0: card reports no RX buffers.
> 
> over and over again.. at first i thought it was an IRQ conflict but
> nothing in the system had changed it just started out of nowhere
> apparently(after a reboot once) i figured a way around it, to
> /etc/init.d/networking stop then start it again after a few
> seconds(haven't tried to issue just a restart) and the errors stop. was
> wondering if this could be the result of the system booting too fast ?
> my system takes about 6 seconds from when init loads to when X
> launches(probably more like 4-5 seconds) the same hardware when i was
> running slower stuff(128MB as opposed to 512MB and 466mhz as opposed to
> 800mhz) this never happened. Running on an Asus CUV4X(VIA Apollo
> Pro133A). I did move the NIC from PCI#4 to PCI#2 with no difference.
> 
> really odd.
> 
> Running debian 2.2r0 linux 2.2.17pre18
> 
> 
> 
> eth0: Intel PCI EtherExpress Pro100 82557, 00:90:27:9B:16:D6, I/O at
> 0xa800, IRQ 10.
>   Receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling work-around.
>   Board assembly 721383-006, Physical connectors present: RJ45
>   Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
>   General self-test: passed.
>   Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
>   Internal registers self-test: passed.
>   ROM checksum self-test: passed (0x04f4518b).
> eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker
> http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/eepro100.html
> eepro100.c: $Revision: 1.20.2.10 $ 2000/05/31 Modified by Andrey V.
> Savochkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and others
> 
> 
> more info:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts 
>CPU0   
>   0:  47060  XT-PIC  timer
>   1:   2469  XT-PIC  keyboard
>   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
>  10:797  XT-PIC  eth0
>  11:  0  XT-PIC  es1370
>  12:  17762  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
>  13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
>  14:  0  XT-PIC  usb-uhci, usb-uhci
>  15:  26279  XT-PIC  aic7xxx
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/ioports 
> -001f : dma1
> 0020-003f : pic1
> 0040-005f : timer
> 0060-006f : keyboard
> 0070-007f : rtc
> 0080-008f : dma page reg
> 00a0-00bf : pic2
> 00c0-00df : dma2
> 00f0-00ff : fpu
> 02e8-02ef : serial(set)
> 02f8-02ff : serial(set)
> 0378-037f : parport0
> 03c0-03df : vga+
> 03f8-03ff : serial(set)
> 0778-077a : parport0
> a000-a03f : es1370
> a400-a4fe : aic7xxx
> a800-a81f : Intel Speedo3 Ethernet
> b000-b013 : usb-uhci
> b400-b413 : usb-uhci
> e800-e807 : via2-smbus
> 
> 
> 
> any idea ?  thanks for any input!
> 
> nate
> 
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Re: linuxconf problems

[Nate Duehr]

Also, AFAIK... the linuxconf distributed in Potato states clearly that
some things in it work on Debian and some don't in the README.Debian
file...

You may want to look at that before continuing to use it.  Linuxconf is
worthless, anyway.  Learn to config the box the correct way.

:)

On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:13:23AM -0700, Steven Winston wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Steven Winston 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:51 PM
> Subject: linuxconf problems
> 
> 
> I can't make linuxconf work. I get messages saying "Xlib connection to ':0.0' 
> refused by server." This is debian 2.2 on asus p5-a, amd k6-2 450 mhz, 128mb 
> ram. Any ideas? This potato seems awfully buggy to me and has been a bitch to 
> install. This is the linux systems lab six-cd version.
> Also, what is the best book for learning debian?
> thanks, stevew

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