size of /var partition

[Howard Mann]

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Hi All,

I am planning an installation of Debian and 
solicit recommendations for the size of a 
separate /var logical partition. I plan to use 
apt-get to install packages and to upgrade my 
distribution when appropriate.

In section 3.3 of the Debian FAQ, there is a 
recommendation for a /var of 100Mb. However, I 
have seen posts on this list from users who have 
reported failures in "dist-upgrade" because the 
associated space requirements are much larger.

What would you recommend ?

After creating a "large" /var partition, I plan 
to create a symbolic link between /tmp 
and /var/tmp. ( ln -s /tmp /var/tmp ) Is this 
O.K. ?

Thanks,

Howard Mann.



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Gnome/E

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I have installed Gnome and Enlightenment on my Pentium 133/64MB RAM; I
think Gnome is doing fine; there's no need to use dual Pentium machines.
Currently it's pretty basic, no browser or file manager. But it seems
that Gnome would work best on a plain window manager. Using E, I think
the colors don't go together.

Oki

Re: Kernel

[Oki DZ]

aphro wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Neil D. Roberts wrote:
> 
> koala >Where can I find a manual on Internet about compiling kernel's ?
> 
> The README file that comes with the kernel was sufficient guide to teach
> me how to compile the first time around.  

I think "make menuconfig" will do the job.
But, on i386 potato distro, I couldn't do it because there was no
string.h or something. Was it due to the inavailability of curses
package?

Oki

Re: How to install pine on slink from source

[Oki DZ]

John Pearson wrote:
> I don't know what editor Mutt uses as a built-in default, but you
> can ask it to use whatever you like by adding a line like
> set editor=/usr/bin/joe
> or whatever to your .muttrc file.

Thanks a lot.
I think I'm to lazy to do "man mutt" or cd to /usr/doc/mutt.

Oki

Re: gnome-pager loses windows and freezes X

[Oki DZ]

Herbert Ho wrote:
> 
> *grin* yeah, forgot to method i tried this. when X froze it took the
> keyboard with it. no C-A-F1 or C-A-DEL.

If your machine is on a network, you can telnet to it, and do
killall X
or 
kill 

Oki

Re: National fonts under their own dir?

[Changwoo Ryu]

Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Where can I find the X font policy?
> On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:32:03 +0900 
> (http://www.debia.org/Lists-Archives/debian-x
> -9910/msg0.html) Changwoo Ryu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says "the X 
> font not-yet policy".

Here:

http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-x-9909/msg6.html

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Re: Gnome/E

[John Miskinis]

Hello,

  I run E on a Pentium 100 w 24 Mb RAM.  As far as the colors
"not going together", you can change the appearance of the
gnome applications, by changing the GTK themes.  The gnomecc
application makes installing and changing themes quite easy.  You
can also preview them, and "try" them right away.


John

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Re: pppd died unexpectedly. Where to look?

[Sergey V Kovalyov]

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Hans wrote:

> System: Acer Travelmate 512T running Slink. Generic PCMCIA
> modem.
> 
> Goal: setting up ppp connections to two different ISPs.
> 
> Done: configured pppconfig, kppp, resolv.conf (for DNS)
> 
> The problem: pon/poff dials in, but refused to connect. kppp the same,
> and the log from pppd is as follows  for both ISPs):
> 
> Nov 28 19:07:19 mack pppd[407]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
> Nov 28 19:07:19 mack pppd[407]: Using interface ppp0
> Nov 28 19:07:19 mack pppd[407]: Connect: ppp0 <<--> /dev/ttyS1
> Nov 28 19:07:20 mack pppd[407]: peer refused to authenticate
 
Somehow your ISP uses different approach than your configuration.
Try adding -debug option to the pppd options in the kppp, and see if this
produces more info.

Sergey.

Re: size of /var partition

[Martin Fluch]

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On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Howard Mann wrote:

> I am planning an installation of Debian and 
> solicit recommendations for the size of a 
> separate /var logical partition. I plan to use 
> apt-get to install packages and to upgrade my 
> distribution when appropriate.
> 
> In section 3.3 of the Debian FAQ, there is a 
> recommendation for a /var of 100Mb. However, I 
> have seen posts on this list from users who have 
> reported failures in "dist-upgrade" because the 
> associated space requirements are much larger.
> 
> What would you recommend ?
> 
> After creating a "large" /var partition, I plan 
> to create a symbolic link between /tmp 
> and /var/tmp. ( ln -s /tmp /var/tmp ) Is this 
> O.K. ?

I have partitioned my 5GB hd at home as follows:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 129M   68M   58M  54% /
/dev/hda3 364M  205M  151M  58% /var
/dev/hda6 893M  681M  213M  76% /usr
/dev/hda7 3.0G  1.5G  1.5G  49% /home

/tmp is a symlink to /var/tmp, /usr/src a symlink to /home/src, so that
/ and /usr usualy don't change...

120M on /var are used by wwwoffle (this can be reduced very easy by giving
wwwoffle limitations on the cachesize).

If desired /var could be smaller on my system (but due to my installation
history it happened do be 360MB and isn't disturbing), the size of / is
also very static, so it could be easyly 40MB smaller, if the space would
be needed otherwise...

The problems which arises if the space on /var patition is to small for an
apt-get download is easyly to solve: You only have to make
/var/cache/apt/archives a symlink to some place on a partition with
enougth space for the download. At this place you have to have a directory
called 'partial', otherwise apt-get will complain about it. I have had
once this problem when I've upgraded to potato and had to download about
240M deb files...

Martin


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Potato upgrade

[Sven Esbjerg]

After a long battle with an upgrade to potato from a very customized slink am
allmost happy. I just miss one thing:
I cannot start gdm due to some wierd problem. It complains about the user and
group for /var/gdm. Supposedly they should be nobody:deamon but that doesn't
work either. In Slink it was root who owned everything regarding to gdm. Has
that changed?

Another thing. When I install new packages from dselect I get an error:
Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305

Is this a general error (I haven't seen it on any other potato-machines)?
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[no subject]

[Carl A. Fahsltrom]

How do I download and install Debian Linux using a multiboot 
system between Linux and Windows.
 
Thanks
Carl A. Fahlstrom

Re: apt-get removing unnecessary packages?

[Shao Zhang]

Hi,
This is not a problem.

libqt2 conflicts with qt1g. So apt wants to remove qt1g. But if
qt1g is removed, then all of your old kde apps have to be
removed. 

It is the time to upgrade your kde apps using qt2.

Shao.

Jon Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> This morning I'm attempting to install the licq
> package.  done this before so it's no problem.  This
> time it said i had to get the licq-plugin package, so
> mno problem there, but when i attempt to grab that, it
> gives me the following message:
> 
> Note, installing licq-plugin-qt2 instead of
> licq-plugin
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   libqt2 licq-plugin-qt2
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   kdeadmin kdebase kdebase-i18n kdegames kdegraphics
> kdelibs-doc kdelibs2g
>   kdelibs2g-dev kdemultimedia kdenetwork
> kdenetwork-dev kdesupport0g
>   kdesupport0g-dev kdetoys kdeutils kdm korganizer
> qt1g qt1g-dev
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   libqt2 licq-plugin-qt2
> 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 19 to remove
> and 129 not upgraded.
> Need to get 1525kB of archives. After unpacking 55.1MB
> will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a reason for it to uninstall all of my KDE
> packages at all?  I've had licq working through kde
> before and this just seems like it's a very stupid
> thing for it to do
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> =
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Re: G400 high-res problem

[Mark Zimmerman]

I'm using a G400 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with XFree86 3.3.5 and have
no problems with it. My monitor is a Sony 400PS. I also recall that I
used 3.3.4 for a time without incident. The 3.3.4 experience was with
slink; now using potato.

Sorry to have been no help.

- Mark

On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 07:13:51PM -0800, Greg Schulein wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running a Matrox G400 with a Sony G500 display, on a slink system
> that's been upgraded (via apt) to XFree86 3.3.4.  The problem I'm
> getting is dark bands that flicker on the screen whenever the on-screen
> image is changing.  The scanlines under the dark bands also seem to be
> displaced a few pixels to the left compared to the rest of the
> scanlines.  The picture is fine whenever the image is not changing.  A
> "changing image" can be an animation, scrolling a window, or even typing
> (like now).  This problem is most pronounced at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> but is present at lower resolutions and color depths as well.  Is there
> anyone else out there running a G400 under XFree 3.3.4 that is or is not
> having similar problems?
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> 
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problems with potato and X11

[Craig_Askings]

Hi,

I upgraded my system last night from slink to potato and now X11 will not start.
First off it was complaining that the 75dpi fonts was missing a fonts.dir file.
Which I manageged to fix.
However it is now complaining that it can't open the default font "fixed".
Where do I find this font? or where do I change the default.


Regards,
Craig Askings.

Re: what happened to netstd?

[Brad]

On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 03:31:46PM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> Tell me about it. I had to go all over the place stamping out things like
> rwhod, rsh-server, rthisd and rthatd.

i didn't have any trouble with this. dselect told me it was going to
install all kinds of rpackages, so i put netstd on hold until i got
around to making myself a fake package to fix it.

> That netstd package is a major security problem. I fail to see why it
> installs all that crap on installation OR on removal. I can understand a
> metapackage installing a bunch of things but 1. It should be clearly
> spelled out in the package description what new daemons have been added to
> the meta package and 2. that REMOVING the package will cause a bunch of
> stuff to be installed anyway.

It installs all those rpackages because the old netstd package included
all those. The maintainer decided to split netstd into components for
each daemon, so we CAN remove the rpackages without removing every other
standard daemon.

Nothing was added to netstd, it's just that netstd went from being a
package containing those rservices to a metapackage depending on the
packages providing those same rservices.

netstd won't install anything on removal, AFAIK. However, once its
dependancies are marked for install, just removing netstd won't mark
those for removal.

> r services should, in my personal opinion,  never be part of a
> meta-package unless the meta package clearly shows this in its name ...
> something like rservices-std would be acceptable.

If you look in slink, you'll see that all rservices are in the netstd
_package_. Potato's netstd metapackage does nothing but depend on the
packages containing the programs the netstd package used to contain.


For now, the best solution is to install a fake package that provides
netstd, and remove the netstd package itself. If you felt like it, you
could download the sources for diald, correct the dependancy, and
recompile. Someone has already filed a bug report against diald, so
hopefully it'll be fixed soon.


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Re: Gnome/E

[Adam C Powell IV]

Oki DZ wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have installed Gnome and Enlightenment on my Pentium 133/64MB RAM; I think 
> Gnome
> is doing fine; there's no need to use dual Pentium machines.  Currently it's 
> pretty
> basic, no browser or file manager.

For the file manager, you need to install gmc.  There's a slightly functional 
browser
in gnome-help-browser, it dies or hangs on a lot of complex html, but does a 
nice job
of formatting man, info and of course GNOME help documents.  It doesn't seem to 
have
progressed in over a year, because its replacement will use a CORBA wrapper 
over the
mozilla gtk widget (ready RSN...), so it will be a first-class browser.

I think if you install task-gnome-desktop you'll get both of these (file 
manager and
help browser).

Zeen,

-Adam P.

New users looking for sources.list

[Robert L. Harris]

I just installed debian this morning.  I've got gnome installed, but 
apparently on a much older version of Enlightenment.  When I do a
"dpkg --list | grep enlightenment" it doesn't show as installed, and when
I try to install it, it complains that there's about 5 incompatabilities 
such as imlib (which is too old).  Right now I've got this in my 
sources.list file:

deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ slink-update main 
deb http://www.debian.org/~ljlane/downloads/ enlightenment/
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/


I moved the first 2 to the front hoping it might clear things up.

Anyone have a well built list that my help clear some of thise up?

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Re: problems with potato and X11

[Brian Servis]

*- On 29 Nov, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "problems with potato and X11"
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I upgraded my system last night from slink to potato and now X11 will not 
> start.
> First off it was complaining that the 75dpi fonts was missing a fonts.dir 
> file.
> Which I manageged to fix.
> However it is now complaining that it can't open the default font "fixed".
> Where do I find this font? or where do I change the default.
> 

When I upgraded from 3.3.4 for slink to 3.3.5-1 for potato I had
similiar problems with 'fixed'.  All I had to do was restart the font
servers and then restart X.  Try running '/etc/init.d/xfs restart'.

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Re: pppd died unexpectedly. Where to look?

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 08:02:02PM -0500, Sergey V Kovalyov wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Hans wrote:
> 
> > System: Acer Travelmate 512T running Slink. Generic PCMCIA
[snip]
> > Nov 28 19:07:20 mack pppd[407]: peer refused to authenticate
>  
> Somehow your ISP uses different approach than your configuration.
> Try adding -debug option to the pppd options in the kppp, and see if this
> produces more info.

I believe this is caused by trying to have the ISP authenticate itself
to you, which will never happen. You should add a line containing the
word 'noauth' to your /etc/ppp/peers/provider config file.

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Re: Windows moving active partition mark

[Ethan Benson]

On 28/11/99 Micha Feigin wrote:


I am tring to run linux and windows 98 together on the same drive using
lilo.
I installed lilo on a partition containing the kernel.
I then set the active partition mark to that partition.
As long as windows isn't started then this setup works greate (the lilo
boot prompt comes up and I can chose betwin linux and windows).
The problem is that when ever windows starts it moves the active partition
mark back to its partition.
Is there a way to stop this behaviour?


just install lilo on the MBR then the active partition flag becomes 
irrelevant, lilo gets control immediately.


boot=/dev/hda  ## change to your hard disk device
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
prompt
timeout=40  ## 4 seconds till auto boot of default image
default=linux

image=/vmlinuz
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/hda1  ## change to your real root partition

image=/vmlinuz.old
label=linux.old
read-only
root=/dev/hda1

other=/dev/hda4  ## change to the partition holding win98
label=win
table=/dev/hda ## change to the same value as boot=

rerun lilo and lilo will now be loaded by the BIOS immediately.  LILO 
does not care about active partitions and will follow the lilo.conf 
file whatever image you pick (linux, linux.old, win) it will load.


the only time you will have problem is if you reinstall win98 in 
which case it will overwrite the MBR without asking and you will have 
to use your boot floppy (which you already made right? :) ) to boot 
linux and reinstall lilo.  AFAIK win98 does not do anything stupid 
like reinstalling the MBR every time it boots...




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Weird Routing/IP-Masquerading issue

[Stephen Pitts]

orwell has two ethernet cards and serves as the router for my home
network. eth0 connects to a cable modem with IP 24.x.x.x.x (assigned via
DHCP). eth1 connects to the home network with ip 192.168.1.1. The routing 
works fine, and I never have any problems getting to the outside world from
any of the other systems on the network...except for orwell. 

When I'm actually physically logged into orwell, I'm sometimes unable to
establish TCP connections with the outside world. I just ran
fetchmail on magellan (192.168.1.2) and it connected to my ISP's POP
server fine. But, even as I speak, fetchmail on orwell is blocking on the
connect() call because it cannot establish a TCP connection with the
outside world. I'm totally bewildered. Twenty minutes from now, it could
work fine.

Instead of using the ipmasq package, I setup the network and some
special IP-Masquerading hacks (for Napster, DirectX, and ICQ) through
/etc/init.d/network, which I've attached. I also use portfw to forward
orwell:81 to magellan:8080 to let others access my Zope server, but I
don't think that that is an issue either. I'm running Debian potato and
kernel 2.2.12 on orwell. 

Does anyone have any ideas? Please CC me as I'm not currently subscribed
to debian-user (I can only handle one high-traffic list, and zope takes
the cake!)
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#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1

# internal network is hard-coded; external is setup by DHCP
ifconfig eth0 > /dev/null
ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0

ipchains -P forward DENY
ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/16 -j MASQ
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

# for DirectPlay games :-)
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r udp 2300 2400 -h 192.168.1.2
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 2300 2400 -h 192.168.1.2
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r udp 47624 47624 -h 192.168.1.2
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 47624 47624 -h 192.168.1.2  

# for napster
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 6699  6699 -h 192.168.1.2

# for ICQ
ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 31000 32000 -h 192.168.1.2

Re: Netscape configuration; Fortify

[Brad]

On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 10:14:35PM +0100, Matthias Hertel wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 09:50:02PM +0100, Matthias Hertel wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't get Fortify (fortify 1.4.5-1, fortify-linux-x86 1.4.5-1) to
> > > patch my Netscape Navigator (navigator-smotif-47 4.7-14). Is it
> > > possible that this particular Navigator binary
> > > (/usr/lib/netscape/47/navigator/navigator.smotif.real, 7220976 bytes,
> > > timestamp Sep 16 07:58) is not supported by Fortify? Or am I doing
> > > something wrong?
> 
> Fortify's /usr/share/fortify/Index file contains quite a lot of
> entries for 4.7 versions (both Communicator and Navigator). There is
> even a line with a file size of 7220976 bytes:
> 
> 7220976  - 74c337138775c23a067444a69cff00eb nav 4.7 0 2 \ morphs-1.2 
> x86-unknown-linux2.0 -
> 
> But fortify's install-script failed to patch my Navigator, and
> manually invoking fortify doesn't work either. Any ideas what I could
> try to verify that the above line indeed matches my Navigator binary?
> And if it does, how do I explain that to fortify?

I had this same problem, if you use md5sum on the navigator-smorif.real
binary you'll find that the sum is different from that in Fortify's
Index file.

It worked for me just changing the sum in the Index file. YMMV.


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Re: fetchmail, exim and pine

[John Pearson]

On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 08:39:41PM +, John wrote
> I still have difficulty with email configurations. Although I can
> send and receive mail, things are very basic. Would someone
> kindly help me a little further along by explaining/answering:-
> 
> a. My .fetchmailrc contains 'warning 3600' at the end the basic
> config. (i.e. poll pop..xxx with proto POP3user ""
> there with password "" is  here warning 3600)
> 
> b. I understand a .forward file (in my home directory) will enable 
> me to sort incoming mail. Can I create it in a text editor (say
> pico or ee - my favourites) and are there any special rules
> and examples.
> 

At its simplest a .forward file contains one or more addresses, one
to a line; your mail is forwarded to each of them (instead of being
delivered to your local mailbox).  Exim, procmail and various other
mail delivery/processing software allow you to place more complex
rules in there, to do all sorts of fancy sorting tricks; you should
refer to their documentation for the specifics on each one.

> c. What are RFC 821 and RFC 822.
> 

RFC 821 and RFC 822 are technical documents ('Requests for Comment')
that propose standards for (RFC 821) SMTP, the protocol used to transfer
mail from one host to another (also used by most "internet client"
mail programs for sending mail) and (RFC 822) the format of internet
mail messages.  As an end-user you probably don't need to read them, 
unless you're especially interested in the nitty-gritty of how these
things work, or want to find out (e.g.) exactly what you're allowed to 
put in your "from" address.  They are in the (15Mb) package 'doc-rfc'.

> d. As a very inexperienced novice, I still find it best to study
> the printed word. I don't have a printer attached to this 
> installation, so I use mtools and take text onto a floppy
> for printing by another machine. Is there any easy way to
> make man pages (e.g. 'exim.8.gz' after unzipping) capable
> of being reproduced without the 'weird bits' which I don't
> at present understand.

Man (via groff, which does the hard work) understands several output 
formats; if you have access to a postscript printer you can create
a ready-for-printing copy of a man page by (e.g.)
  man -Tps exim > exim-man.ps
or, if you have an HP LaserJet 4 or other PCL5-compatible printer,
  man -Tlj4 exim > exim-man.lj4

This should produce a file that you can just copy to the printer
for neatly-formatted output.  See man groff for a complete list of
output types, although they are the ones that you are most likely 
to use.

You would print these files by copying them to the printer, with 
e.g. 
 C> copy a:exim-man.ps lpt1:
Check the name of the printer; it's been a long time since I did that...

If you're printing on a Mac there is no simple way of copying a 
file directly to the printer; if your printer does postscript, you 
can use the "Download commands to the printer" (?) menu item in
the LaserWriter utility to print a raw postscript file.

If the printer you are using doesn't do postscript or PCL but is supported
by magicfilter or apsfilter, you might want to consider installing 
magicfilter/apsfilter and printing to a file; you could then use something
like
  man -t exim | lpr
to format the man page ready for your printer, and then copy the file
that is created to the non-print-challenged PC.


John P.
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Re: Newbie: slink-to-potato upgrade

[John Pearson]

On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 10:35:52PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote
> Hello,
> 
> I recently installed slink on a new SCSI disk for my dual oc 450 MHz
> Celeron machine. (suse 6.2 is already on an IDE disk).
> 
> Since I'm new to .deb-based systems I would like to ask a few questions:
> 
> (I have been running RedHat since 5.0 up to 6.1 and rawhide, mandrake
> 6.1 and suse 6.2 on different machines, but all of them are rpm-based)
> 
> I need to upgrade to a kernel supporting dual CPUs and also to
> XFree86-3.3.5 to get support for my TNT2-based graphics card.
> 
> 1. What is the name of the kernel package: dpkg --list only gives
>kernel-headers and kernel-source.

If you want a SMP kernel (or if you know what you're doing) it's best
to build your own kernel, using the kernel-package package.  That will
create a .deb containing specifically the kernel you want, with excellent
installation scripts that will ensure that everything goes smoothly.

The procedure:
  - Install kernel-source-2.2.13*.deb and unpack the kernel source under
/usr/src/linux, or get it from wherever you normally do;
  - cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig; make-kpkg kernel-image
  - dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.2.13*.deb

This doesn't replace your existing kernel if it's a different kernel
version, and it maintains a link to your 'immediate past kernel' at
/vmlinuz.old so you can leave yourself a 'safe option' by including
a stanza in /etc/lilo.conf to boot /vmlinuz.old.

To build the kernel on x86 you need the make, gcc (that's 2.7.2, not egcs), 
binutils and bin86 packages; to do 'make menuconfig' you need libncurses4-dev 
and libc6-dev, and to do 'make xconfig' you need tk-dev (e.g., tk4.2-dev or 
tk8.0-dev).  And kernel-package, of course.

> 2. Which command to use for kernel upgrade?

If you use kernel-package just install the .deb, answer the questions
and reboot.

> 3. Which tools to use, apt, dselect and/or dpkg?

dpkg.

> 4. Which tool correspond to rpm and yast?

Depends what you mean.  Dpkg does low level package manipulation
on individual .deb files, dselect & apt do high-level package 
manipulation using package repositories and dependency checking.  
If you want to install .rpm'd software, alien builds .debs on-the-fly 
(but you have to be a little careful about differences in filesystem 
layout). 

> 5. I installed the scientific workstation, thereby missing the install
>of eg. gnome. I want to run Windowmaker/Enlightenment and
>gnome. What to do?

If you have apt installed, you can try something like this:
  apt-get install wmaker-gnome enlightenment gnome-session control-center
which should drag in most of the binaries you need to start.  The 
gnome in 'slink' is pretty old now, and later 'unofficial' package sets
are around that give slink a more recent gnome suite; if you migrate to
potato, that has more recent copies.  Potato and most of the unofficial
gnome sets have 'meta-packages' with names like task-gnome-network that
simplify package selection by requiring reasonably complete, coherent
suites of packages relevant to the role suggested by their name.

I suggest that you look over the archives of this mailing list for
posts pointing to these, and also to other unofficial and semi-official
package repositories.  These include package sets for October GNOME,
XFree86 3.3.5 and so on.

When you look at a package repository you can download and browse through 
the Packages.gz file that it includes to see what packages are there, what 
they rely on, and so on.

> 6. How can I get a comprehensive listing of the packages installed
>on my computer?

dpkg -l | less

> 7. How can I easily get rid of the unwanted ones?

dpkg --purge unwanted-package 
or
dpkg -r unwanted-package (leaves config files behind, useful if you will be
re-installing later)
or
apt-get install unwanted-package-
(the trailing '-' says to uninstall it).

Both dpkg --purfe, dpkg -r and apt-get install can handle multiple
package names on the command line.

> 8. apt-get upgrade + apt-get dist-upgrade ends with some files not
>found. The suggested fix was to add --fix-missing. How can I
>update the missing parts or remove the no longer supported packages.

Umm... pass.  This may relate to the fact that Potato is being updated
continuously, and at any one time the Packages file provided may not 
quite line up with what's available.  Try again may be enough.

> 9. dselect interface and beginners guide are not informative enough to
>guide you to an upgrade easily.

Agreed, but I think it is assumed that people upgrading already have enough 
debian experience to do OK.  Maintenance of dselect seems to be a real
problem; I haven't looked, but I understand that it isn't very clean or
clear at the source level, and it is no longer maintained by its original
author.  While it clearly has its deficiencies, what it does it does well
enough that people are reluctant to start tinkering with it.

> 10. dselect is confusing with its immedia

Re: ["Jetmail System" <>] Mail Error

[John Pearson]

On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 09:34:25AM +1100, Brian May wrote
> 
> Anyone knows what this error means?
> 
> This message *was* posted to debian-user, despite the error. I
> got replies...
> 
> Also, note that the address the bounced message was posted "to"
> an illegal address.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]doesn't exist, nor have I ever used it.
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  missing >
> 

You can tell that the post to debian-user was successful, by the 
Received: fields in the returned copy of your mail:
> Received: from murphy.debian.org([209.41.108.199]) by 21cn.com(JetMail 
> 2.3.2.1)
>   with SMTP id /aimcque/jmail.rcv/5/jm0383de3cf; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 
> 22:18:17 -

It looks like the message you received was generated by a list
recipient in 21cn.com; a quick whois shows this to be somewhere 
in Guandong, China.

I'd guess they are running a poorly-configured end-user mail filtering 
tool, or perhaps a badly mangled/configured MTA, as:
 - The return address they have chosen is a composite of the fields
   in your own From and Sender fields:
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (best guess: take the first work from From:, and qualify it with
the Sender: domain).
 - They are objecting to the recipient as listed in the text of the
   message, not to the envelope recipient.

Further breakage at their end is evident in that they used murphy.debian.org
(the host that handed them your message) as a relay for snoopy.apana.org.au.

Depending on which web pages you read, JetMail is either a FidoNet-oriented
list manager for the Atari ST, or a "powerful Internet standards-based
email server for small companies, businesses, and corporate remote offices. 
It is designed to be simple for the novice administrator to setup and
configure."  Sounds like one to avoid, in either event :-).

I'd guess that the message you got reflects either someone's badly broekn
attempt to prevent mail relaying, or a failure of their mail filtering
setup due to not being able to deal with "To:" fields that don't correspond
to known local addresses (perhaps it is a local "unbundler", handling mail
as a gateway for a hidden domain, that requires recognisable To: addresses
to allow forwarding to appropriate recipients?).   

I wouldn't worry about it, unless it keeps happening; it looks like it is 
Someone Else's Problem.
 

John P.
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who broken?

[Dave Wiard]

After upgrading to potato, it appears as though who may be broken:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/dave] who --count

# users=0

Any idea why this might have happened or how I can fix it?

Dave Wiard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

questions about slink to potato upgrade

[Dan Christensen]

Last night I upgraded my fairly stock slink machine to potato using
"apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade".  I have various questions.
The last group of questions is about all the errors that occurred.

o Does potato contain all of the Y2K upgrades in slink and a half?
  And all current security updates?

o I'm curious why 15 packages were kept back.  How do I find out what
  caused this?  (The packages are: libmime-base64-perl fvwm eperl
  libtime-hires-perl libpgperl eterm libcurses-pe rl
  libterm-readkey-perl perlmagick mixviews kbd liblockdev0-perl pdl
  libcompress- zlib-perl perl-tk.)  Are they just old?  Should I
  remove them?

o I also downloaded, configured, compiled and installed kernel 2.2.13.
  I found that I now have trouble accessing my pcmcia modem card.
  Sometimes changing the irq with setserial fixes it, but sometimes it
  doesn't.  I've now turned off various other ports in the BIOS to
  free up more irq's, but I still get irregular behaviour.  Did
  something change that could cause this?

o A lot of errors occurred during the upgrade, and I had to intervene
  manually several times.  Do these things represent bugs in apt,
  dpkg, or some package control files?  Here are a few examples:

  - Throughout the upgrade I got the following messages:

  ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file 
or directory), skipping
  ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink
  ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink
  ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink
  ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink

What do they mean?

  - Throughout the upgrade I got the following message:

  Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at 
  /usr/lib/perl5/5.004/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305

What does it mean?

  - I also got this a lot:

  dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc!

  warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse 
  -a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241.

(For example, it occurred right after the line
"Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc ...".)

  - The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the
 install:

  install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20
  /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install: 
cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory
  emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/
emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at 
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28.
  dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure):
   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29

In the end, the only way I could find to get around this was to
uninstall dpkg-dev and the things that depend on it, configure
emacs, and then reinstall those packages.  What went wrong above?

  - When emacs 20.3 was replaced with 20.4, some stuff got left behind
in /usr/share/emacs/20.3/etc/bbdb/*, .../20.3/site-lisp/debview,
.../20.3/site-lisp/psgml and .../20.3/site-lisp/python-elisp.
I just manually erased it all, but shouldn't it have been removed
automatically?

  - Some of the startup files in /etc/{emacs,emacs20}/site-start.d/
have not been byte-compiled.  Is this correct behavior?  Also,
some of the byte-compiled files are older than their sources.
Are these old byte-compiled files, or were they simply installed
with old dates?

  - Is there a reason that the psgml package contains the empty
directory /etc/emacs19/site-start.d?  ("dpkg -S emacs19" produces 
  psgml: /etc/emacs19
  psgml: /etc/emacs19/site-start.d )
I don't have emacs19 installed.

  - When the upgrade got to mgetty it produced:

  Preparing to replace mgetty 1.1.18-1 (using 
.../archives/mgetty_1.1.21-2.deb) ...
  Unpacking replacement mgetty ...
  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mgetty_1.1.21-2.deb 
(--unpack):
   trying to overwrite `/etc/mgetty/new_fax', which is also in package 
mgetty-fax
  Preparing to replace mgetty-fax 1.1.18-1 (using 
.../mgetty-fax_1.1.21-2.deb) ...
  Unpacking replacement mgetty-fax ...

and then the install stopped shortly thereafter.  I typed "apt-get
dist-upgrade" and the installed continued without a problem.

  - When the upgrade got to r-base it produced:

  Preparing to replace r-base 0.62.4-2 (using 
.../archives/r-base_0.90.0-0.deb) ...
  Unpacking replacement r-base ...
  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/r-base_0.90.0-0.deb 
(--unpack):
   trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/R/library/splines/R/splines', which is 
also in package r-cran
  dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

The only way this would go away is if I remove r-cran and r-base.

If these errors aren't due to mistakes on my part, then 

Re: who broken?

[Ethan Benson]

On 28/11/99 Dave Wiard wrote:


After upgrading to potato, it appears as though who may be broken:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/dave] who --count

# users=0

Any idea why this might have happened or how I can fix it?


works for me TM

perhaps your utmp file is corrupt?



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smail staff

[Moe Thu Kyaw]

Hi

I want to block the messages bigger than 150K in size.I've setup
"max_message_size=150K" option in smail config file and it's not
blocking.What should i change to make it enable?Could anybody plase give me
some solution?

Thanks & Regards,

Moe Thu Kyaw

How to auto-apply kernel patches

[ferret]

I would have thought this were explained better..
I have kernel-package installed and have kernel source for 2.2.13 and the
kerneli package installed. The documentation for kernel-package states
that make-kpkg can apply the patches during build, then remove them during
clean. What I can't figure out is how I use kernel-package to configure
the kernel WITH the patches applied. is it meant to do that?

-- Ferret no baka

man and non-80 columns displays

[Taupter]

Hi people.


I like to use some non-standard text modes, like 132x60, but when I use
man it aways show pages as if it were at 80 columns mode. HOw to fix it?


Taupter

Re: problems with potato and X11t

[Carl Fink]

> However it is now complaining that it can't open the default font "fixed".
> Where do I find this font? or where do I change the default.

I believe that's in xfonts-base.
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Re: what happened to netstd?

[Pollywog]

On 29-Nov-1999 George Bonser wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Brad wrote:
> 
>> netstd won't install anything on removal, AFAIK. However, once its
>> dependancies are marked for install, just removing netstd won't mark
>> those for removal.
> 
> Well, I saw the description that said it should be removed so I removed it
> and got rwhod and one other package installed as a bonus for removing it.
> 

Me too.  And I lost diald.  I installed it again and got lots of junk I did
not want, so I replaced the "r" junk with fake packages.

--
Andrew

bad alternatives symlinks after potato upgrade

[Dan Christensen]

I just upgraded my mostly stock slink machine to potato with
"apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade".  Now I have both /usr/man
and /usr/share/man on my system, and neither is a symlink to the
other.  A quick glance showed no files in common between the
two directories, and they both contain around 7.5M.  "man foo"
works for foo's in either directory.  But the alternatives
system is messed up, with symlinks pointing to the wrong place.

An example is /etc/alternatives/editor.1.gz, which points to
/usr/man/man1/elvis.1.gz, which does not exist.  However,
/usr/share/man/man1/elvis.1.gz does exist.

What happened?  Would manually changing all the bad symlinks
in /etc/alternatives to point to the right place be the correct
fix?  Is there an automatic way to do this?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Dan

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Re: Good UK spell checker?

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 11:03:48PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 03:54:45PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a spell-checker that only accepts U.K. (Canadian)
> > English?  I need to be able to have a spell checking tool for school that
> > will reject words like "color", "favorite", etc, and only accept "colour",
> > "favourite", etc.
> 
> Ispell with only the uk dictionary installed?  
> 

That isn't strict enough.  It has to consider words like "color" to be
misspelled (the correct form being "colour).
 
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expiring threads in mutt

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

Anyone know how to get mutt to automatically delete messages after a
certain age, preferrably only if the entire thread has been inactive for
that time (I like to archive active threads).


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Re: bad alternatives symlinks after potato upgrade

[Ethan Benson]

On 28/11/99 Dan Christensen wrote:


I just upgraded my mostly stock slink machine to potato with
"apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade".  Now I have both /usr/man
and /usr/share/man on my system, and neither is a symlink to the
other.  A quick glance showed no files in common between the
two directories, and they both contain around 7.5M.  "man foo"
works for foo's in either directory.  But the alternatives
system is messed up, with symlinks pointing to the wrong place.


you getting caught in the transition to FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy 
Standard) that defines that /usr/doc be moved to /usr/share/doc and 
/usr/man be moved to /usr/share/man


it sounds like you found a package or two with bugs not handling this 
transition properly, file a bug report.



An example is /etc/alternatives/editor.1.gz, which points to
/usr/man/man1/elvis.1.gz, which does not exist.  However,
/usr/share/man/man1/elvis.1.gz does exist.

What happened?  Would manually changing all the bad symlinks
in /etc/alternatives to point to the right place be the correct
fix?  Is there an automatic way to do this?


I am not aware of a automatic way to fix this but i could be wrong (I 
have not totally figured out this alternatives thing) it sounds like 
a bug in the package not fixing these symlinks.



Thanks for any suggestions.




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Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade

[Graham Williams]

Hi Dan,

I went that path also (dist-upgrade to get potato) and had some of the
same problems.  

The most serious for me was that my pcmcia modem card stopped working
somewhere along the way. After recompiling kernels and pcmcia and
different options etc I gave up.  I reinstalled (slink) from scratch
and have proceeded step-by-step in moving to potato. Compiling the
kernel-source-2.2.13 and pcmcia-modules-2.2.13 (and versions 2.2.12)
from potato results in a non-functioning pcmcia.  Previoulsy I
compiled the kernel/pcmcia sources (2.2.12) from slink (under slink)
with no problem. I have yet to see if I were to grab the kernel/pcmcia
sources from slink whether it makes any difference.

I trust someone can shed some light on this? 

Cheers,
Graham

Re: expiring threads in mutt

[Rob Mahurin]

On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 11:20:09PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
> Anyone know how to get mutt to automatically delete messages after a
> certain age, preferrably only if the entire thread has been inactive for
> that time (I like to archive active threads).


I have this in my .muttrc. It's from some howto, but I don't remember
where:

#
# Tag "old" messages in mailinglists for "expiring" them.
# Simply press "d", after entering one of the folders, iff mutt asks
# "tag-"
#
folder-hook =debian-user$ 'push T~r>3w\n\;' # 1 months

I've never seen a thread active for a month.  Arguments could be made
for pushing this back to a week and using the Debian archives for
anything older than that; this generally leaves me with ~2500 messages
in my =debian-user, most of which I ignore, since mutt handles them so
quickly I forget about them.

Rob

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Re: Boot disk for kernel-image-2.2.13 not working

[John Carline]

Graham Williams wrote:

> I've also just started moving to Potato and was trying the 2.2.12
> (kernel-image-2.2.12_2.2.12-4.deb) and 2.2.13
> (kernel-image-2.2.13_2.2.13-1.deb) kernels, creating a boot floppy,
> and getting exactly the same problem, with the same message over and
> over again:
>
>  0400
>  AX: 0212
>  BX: 7000
>  CX: 5001
>  DX: 
>
> I'd also welcome any suggestions as to what the problem is?
>
> Cheers,
> Graham
>

Hi folks,

Every time this has happened to me, it was either a bad floppy or a bad floppy 
drive.
On one occasion, the connector to the drive became slightly loose and all the 
disks I
created with "make zdisk or make bzdisk" failed. They gave basicly the same
indidatons that your getting. The strange part is that the disks using syslinux 
still
worked. Still don't understan why?

Assuming that all your hardware is good,  you *might* be able to create a new 
boot
disk by going to "/usr/src/linux" and doing a "make zdisk" or "make bzdisk".

Hope it helps
John



>
> > Bart Szyszka wrote to  on 28 Nov 1999 12:32:20 +1100:
>
> Bart> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my kernel and have downloaded some
> Bart> of the kernel... packages, including the kernel-image-2.2.13
> Bart> one. My problem is that during its setup, when it asks me to
> Bart> create a boot disk and makes one, the disk doesn't seem to
> Bart> work. When I reboot and put it in, all it says is 'Loading'
> Bart> (no Syslinux, no version numbers, nothing) followed by a few
> Bart> lines of dots, and then this gets repeated over and over:
> Bart> AX: 0212 BX: 7000 CX: 5001 DX: .
>
> Bart> Any ideas? Is there a package I can download that will let
> Bart> me make another boot disk? I prefer booting to Linux by just
> Bart> putting the floppy in and turning the computer on instead of
> Bart> needing to wait for that right moment for LILO to come up (I
> Bart> dual-boot with Windows and unfortunately Win98 needs to be
> Bart> the default). BTW, I did use a different disk so I still
> Bart> have the disk that'll boot with my older kernel (2.0.38), so
> Bart> I still have access to Debian (potato).
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Re: expiring threads in mutt

[Mark Wagnon]

On 11/28/99 11:20PM, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:

> Anyone know how to get mutt to automatically delete messages after a
> certain age, preferrably only if the entire thread has been inactive for
> that time (I like to archive active threads).

I don't know about inactive threads, but to remove old messages you
can try the following:

  mutt -f folder-to-expire -e 'set delete;push D~r>20dq'

I'm not sure how it works. Your post prompted me to find a solution.
I've wanted something like this for awhile now. I'm going to try it
out tonight.

BTW, I got it off of the Mutt Users Mail Archive. Just do a search on
expire. The thread I got this from starts near the bottom of the first
page. Oh, lets see if this URL works:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/mutt-users@mutt.org/msg04288.html

Try that and see...just to be sure I'm not screwing with you.

HTH
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Re: expiring threads in mutt

[Mark Wagnon]

On 11/28/99 11:20PM, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
> Anyone know how to get mutt to automatically delete messages after a
> certain age, preferrably only if the entire thread has been inactive for
> that time (I like to archive active threads).

Sorry for the second post, but there looks like an even better
solution on the second page of the search results:

---Begin Copied Message---

This is just another addition to the other solutions :-)
Perhaps using "folder-hooks" would also be an appropriate
solution for you. In my case it is the perfect way. 
I use the following:

  folder-hook =trash 'push T~r>2w!~F\n\;\x'

This one deletes all mails older than 2 weeks when entering the
trash-folder.

Or:

  folder-hook =lists/mutt 'push T~r>2w!~F\n\;s=lists/mutt_backup\n\x'

This one saves 2week old mails from mutt-users to mutt_backup.

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Re: man and non-80 columns displays

[Eric G . Miller]

If your pager is less, maybe setting the columns environment variable
will do the trick. See man less.
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Re: staroffice , potato , unrecoverable error

[John Leget]

Thanx but im aware of that, i ran setup for root and normal user so i
can run it as either if need be.

Anyway it used to work but somewhere along the line with upgrades it
broke :(. So i downloaded the latest SO from sun etc.. :(

cheers.

PS i still dont have an answer :does anyone have it running on potato ?.

PS.PS yes... yes... i know its unstable but it has the files i would
otherwise have to keep up with manually, anyway i still prefer potato to
windows by a long shot >;0)


Aigars Mahinovs wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 07:29:37 + John Leget wrote:
>
> >Installed using setup /net as root.
>
> RTFM of staroffice!
>
> If you install staroffice using "setup /net" then you MUST
> login as normal user and install using "setup" it from the
> dir you installed it as root to a subdir of your home dir .
>
> The "setup /net" install is supposed to be as a host for
> network installations.
> It means you can install it using "setup /net" to a server on
> the local network and then users will be able to install and use
> staroffice trought net while it whould take only 3-4 Mb on their
> own PCs.
> If you are not installing it on the server -- you should
> better install it with simple "setup" !
>
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>
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Re: bad alternatives symlinks after potato upgrade

[Eric G . Miller]

The command 'update-alternatives' may help you sort out the mess. It may
be somewhat tedious to do though.
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Re: staroffice , potato , unrecoverable error

[John Leget]

Hmm that sounds interesting, guess ill have a hunt there, im running kernel 
2.2.13

thanx
aphro wrote:

> This is a longshot, but what kernel are you running?  I saw in the
> linux-kernel mailing list a "bug" in staroffice that deals with the latest
> kernels
>
> See:
>
> http://kt.linuxcare.com/kt19991122_44.html#5
>
> [from the site]
> It was pointed out that the latest stable kernels break StarOffice (or
> rather the Java tool StarOffice depended on).
>
> Andrea pointed out that the problem was only with accessing the
> nonexistant /proc file, not with sprintf(). He pointed out that
> allowing the quirk in 2.2.x would make no difference to anyone but
> StarOffice users.
>
> So, you are free to upgrade your kernel source to the latest, patch it to
> be Star Office compatible, and then go on having a happy
> day. If Sun cares about fixing SO, then they will provide new binary
> upgrades on their site.
> [end excerpt]
>
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, John Leget wrote:
>
> johnjl >Just wondering if anyone here is able to run sun's staroffice on the
> johnjl >current potato.
> johnjl >
> johnjl >Its dead for me
> johnjl >--splash screen
> johnjl >--desktop appears
> johnjl >-- unrecoverable error appears
> johnjl >
> johnjl >Installed using setup /net as root.
> johnjl >
> johnjl >Same problem when run as root or user, also tested on virgin potato
> johnjl >install some error.
> johnjl >
> johnjl >cheers
> johnjl >
> johnjl >PS ive noticed some of our local ISP's seem to be using debian, for
> johnjl >their mail server anyway :) :) :)
> johnjl >
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Re: G400 high-res problem

[Greg Schulein]

On the contrary, every reply helps.  If others are using the G400
successfully, I'll conclude my card is defective and get a replacement.

Thanks,
Greg

Mark Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> I'm using a G400 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with XFree86 3.3.5 and have
> no problems with it. My monitor is a Sony 400PS. I also recall that I
> used 3.3.4 for a time without incident. The 3.3.4 experience was with
> slink; now using potato.
> 
> Sorry to have been no help.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 07:13:51PM -0800, Greg Schulein wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm running a Matrox G400 with a Sony G500 display, on a slink system
> > that's been upgraded (via apt) to XFree86 3.3.4.  The problem I'm
> > getting is dark bands that flicker on the screen whenever the on-screen
> > image is changing.  The scanlines under the dark bands also seem to be
> > displaced a few pixels to the left compared to the rest of the
> > scanlines.  The picture is fine whenever the image is not changing.  A
> > "changing image" can be an animation, scrolling a window, or even typing
> > (like now).  This problem is most pronounced at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > but is present at lower resolutions and color depths as well.  Is there
> > anyone else out there running a G400 under XFree 3.3.4 that is or is not
> > having similar problems?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> >
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Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade

[Joey Hess]

Dan Christensen wrote:
> o Does potato contain all of the Y2K upgrades in slink and a half?
>   And all current security updates?

Yes.

>   - Throughout the upgrade I got the following message:
> 
>   Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at 
>   /usr/lib/perl5/5.004/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305
> 
> What does it mean?

It's a harmless message produced by a bug in perl. You can install
libterm-readline-gnu-perl to make it go away.

I suggest you file bugs about most of the other problems.

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Re: G400 high-res problem

[Aaron Solochek]

Well, for what its worth, I am using a g400max with no problem, but not with 
xfree, with
acceleratedX.

-Aaron Solochek
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Greg Schulein wrote:

> On the contrary, every reply helps.  If others are using the G400
> successfully, I'll conclude my card is defective and get a replacement.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> Mark Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > I'm using a G400 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with XFree86 3.3.5 and have
> > no problems with it. My monitor is a Sony 400PS. I also recall that I
> > used 3.3.4 for a time without incident. The 3.3.4 experience was with
> > slink; now using potato.
> >
> > Sorry to have been no help.
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 07:13:51PM -0800, Greg Schulein wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm running a Matrox G400 with a Sony G500 display, on a slink system
> > > that's been upgraded (via apt) to XFree86 3.3.4.  The problem I'm
> > > getting is dark bands that flicker on the screen whenever the on-screen
> > > image is changing.  The scanlines under the dark bands also seem to be
> > > displaced a few pixels to the left compared to the rest of the
> > > scanlines.  The picture is fine whenever the image is not changing.  A
> > > "changing image" can be an animation, scrolling a window, or even typing
> > > (like now).  This problem is most pronounced at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > but is present at lower resolutions and color depths as well.  Is there
> > > anyone else out there running a G400 under XFree 3.3.4 that is or is not
> > > having similar problems?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Greg
> > >
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Re: staroffice , potato , unrecoverable error

[Eric G . Miller]

On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 06:11:49AM +, John Leget wrote:
> Thanx but im aware of that, i ran setup for root and normal user so i
> can run it as either if need be.
> 
> Anyway it used to work but somewhere along the line with upgrades it
> broke :(. So i downloaded the latest SO from sun etc.. :(

Were you running SO5.0? It's known to have many problems. Apparently
there were some calls to internal routines of the C lib that have
changed (or so I've been told).

> 
> cheers.
> 
> PS i still dont have an answer :does anyone have it running on potato ?.
> 
> PS.PS yes... yes... i know its unstable but it has the files i would
> otherwise have to keep up with manually, anyway i still prefer potato to
> windows by a long shot >;0)
> 

I have SO5.1a running fine for a few months now on a potato box. Got it
from the Sun website a couple months ago. Many fewer hiccups than
version 5.0. If SO5.1 still doesn't work for you, maybe try an strace to
find out where it chokes.
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Re: PPP not working after reinstall

[Alex V. Toropov]

Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm sending this e-mail using Windowze because my Linux box was
> reinstalled (the primary HD was broken) and PPP isnt working. I used pppconfig
> to configure. I estabilish the connection with pon but the connection's
> velocity doesnt pass above 0 bytes, even pinging or ftping.
> What can be wrong?
> Thanks for any help. Using Windows is getting me nervous. :)

May be You need "defaultroute" option for pppd ?
Take a look at route output after connection and see if there a deafult route 
through

ppp0 ?

Alex

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strange openssh behavior

[Herbert Ho]

its very odd, but every once in a while, the ssh connect that i make
(with openssh running on both ends) doesn't break.

i will log out and the shell will already have exited, but the fork of
/usr/sbin/sshd will not exit.  on the client-side, the keyboard
entries will be echoed to the screen, but will not affect the locked
state of ssh.

the only way i can exit is to kill the ssh process on the client-side.

i've tried killing (as root) the sshd fork on the server-side.  but this 
has the ill-effect of crashing sshd and ending all future ssh connections 
(the connection i used to kill the first fork is still active and will
exit correctly).  not mentioning the fact that the ssh connect still 
doesn't break on the client-side.

since i'm using openssh on both ends, could this be a config issue?
i'm pretty sure i replaced the config files w/ the package ones when i
upgraded, but i might not have.

since i don't have immediate access to the server (to restart sshd) i
can't get access to the config files for the server (closed everything
except ssh, =p), but i'll post them if you need them once i get ssh
back up on the server-side.

do you guys have any ideas?


thanks in advance,

herbert

Re: strange openssh behavior

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Herbert Ho wrote:

> since i'm using openssh on both ends, could this be a config issue?
> i'm pretty sure i replaced the config files w/ the package ones when i
> upgraded, but i might not have.

This happens with real-ssh on the client, it is some sort of bizzar server
bug, if you strace the server you find it is looping in select with a
rather low timeout value.

Jason

VAX/BSD Emulator

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I heard the VAX/BSD simulator developed by Panasonic.MCI and Run on FreeBSD.
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Re: Kernel

[aphro]

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Oki DZ wrote:

litban >I think "make menuconfig" will do the job.
litban >But, on i386 potato distro, I couldn't do it because there was no
litban >string.h or something. Was it due to the inavailability of curses
litban >package?

I get similar problems on my machine too when im at the console, but when
i run menuconfig from an xterm it works fine..not sure where the
differences exist..they should be all the same.. 

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Re: who broken?

[aphro]

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Dave Wiard wrote:

dave >After upgrading to potato, it appears as though who may be broken:
dave >
dave >[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/dave] who --count

are you running that command from inside screen ?  I get teh same but only
when im inside a screen ..

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Re: staroffice , potato , unrecoverable error

[Gerhard Kroder]

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:

> I have SO5.1a running fine for a few months now on a potato box. Got it
> from the Sun website a couple months ago. Many fewer hiccups than
> version 5.0.

well, i'm having same trouble, too. downloaded 5.1 from sun, installed it, was
running fine a couple of days, and then "unrecoverable error"  i'm updating 
my
potato every week, but the problem is still there.

> If SO5.1 still doesn't work for you, maybe try an strace to
> find out where it chokes.

i already took a fast look to strace's output, but didn't tell mee much i 
understood.
i should look somewhat closer


gerhard

Re: staroffice , potato , unrecoverable error

[Eric G . Miller]

On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 09:05:44AM +0100, Gerhard Kroder wrote:
> well, i'm having same trouble, too. downloaded 5.1 from sun, installed
> it, was running fine a couple of days, and then "unrecoverable
> error"  i'm updating my potato every week, but the problem is
> still there.
> 
> i already took a fast look to strace's output, but didn't tell mee
> much i understood.  i should look somewhat closer
> 
 Well, on an off chance something weird got written to a startup file,
 try removing (or moving) ~/Office51 and rerunning the set-up routine.

 I agree that strace's output isn't easy to decipher.
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Re: staroffice , potato , unrecoverable error

[Gerhard Kroder]

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 09:05:44AM +0100, Gerhard Kroder wrote:
> > well, i'm having same trouble, too. downloaded 5.1 from sun, installed
> > it, was running fine a couple of days, and then "unrecoverable
> > error"  i'm updating my potato every week, but the problem is
> > still there.
> >
> > i already took a fast look to strace's output, but didn't tell mee
> > much i understood.  i should look somewhat closer
> >
>  Well, on an off chance something weird got written to a startup file,
>  try removing (or moving) ~/Office51 and rerunning the set-up routine.
>

äähhh, ja, forgot: i've tried that one too  when problems occured (but not 
recently).
i'll take one more...

>  I agree that strace's output isn't easy to decipher.

;-)

gerhard

where to find this bug: "Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 177, chunk 2."

[Gerhard Kroder]

i try to "apt-get upgrade" and get this error since a week or two. and
since i don't understand perl enough i can't realy trace back. is it a
problem of perl perl5005, debconf, dpkg? what to do?





> apt-get upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages have been kept back
>   debiandoc-sgml gnuplot guile1.3 libopenldap1 netstd ssh-askpass-ptk
> 205 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
> 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/82.7MB of archives. After unpacking 3555kB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
>
> stty: standard input: Invalid argument
> stty: standard input: Invalid argument
> 100% [Scanning packages]
> Configuring packages ...
> Use of uninitialized value at 
> /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 177,  chunk 2.
> Use of uninitialized value at 
> /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 103,  chunk 2.
> This shouldn't happen at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Text/Wrap.pm line 45,  chunk 2.
> E: Sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (255)
> E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt
>



gerhard

Re: samba for a kids network-server

[Patrick Kirk]

Thanks.

Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade

[Sven Esbjerg]

On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 10:24:03PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote:

>   ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file 
> or directory), skipping
>   ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink
>   ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink
>   ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink
>   ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink
> 
> What do they mean?

I had somewhat they the same error. I stopped the installation and installed
theese libs by hand and then it worked.

>   dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc!
> 
>   warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse 
>   -a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241.
> 
> (For example, it occurred right after the line
> "Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc ...".)

Will you file the bug? (I got the same error over and over).

>   - The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the
>  install:
> 
>   install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20
>   /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install: 
> cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory
>   emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/
> emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28.
>   dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure):
>subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29

Somewhere along from slink to potatto the dir-structure for Emacs got changed
but the install-script does noet reflect this. I fixed the problem by moving
the missing files/dirs from the old place to the new place. I shure hope this
is fixed when potato is released - it's not vere easy to figure these things
out if one is a newbee.

Still, fewer errors ocurred than I had expected.
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Re: staroffice, potato (patching the kernel)

[J Horacio MG]

aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I installed Star Office 5.1 in the /opt directory as root with the
> setup option /net.
> 
> Then I ran setup as normal user from the /opt/
> directory and the
> setup program installed basic files in my home directory.
> That's all, no problems under potato with 2.2.11.
> 
> Did you install the files in your home directory or did you run
> soffice directly from
> your installation directory??

I've tried the installation both as user and as root, but all I get is a 
frozen staroffice installation screen.  Everything breaks, no Ctrl+Alt+BkSp 
or Ctrl+Alt+Del ... nothing works.

I recall having it working with 2.0.36, but nothing I can do with
2.2.10.  Since the installation attempts, sometimes, when I quit
X-Window, I get a striped screen and the system freezes (may be
related?).

aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something about a patch.  How do I apply
a patch to the kernel?  I mean, just by:

# cp patch.x /usr/src/linux/

# cd /usr/src/linux

# patch -p0 

CD-Writer recomendation!

[Manuel Arenaz Silva]

Hello again,

A friend of mine is interested in buying a CD-Writer. He asked me to
recomend a model to him, but I have no idea. Can anyone help me to go
through this situation?

Thanks in advance,

Manuel Arenaz

Re: man and non-80 columns displays

[Bob Vloon]

Hi,

> I like to use some non-standard text modes, like 132x60, but when I use
> man it aways show pages as if it were at 80 columns mode. HOw to fix it?

I'm using a quick hack: in the directory /usr/share/groff/tmac (slink/potato)
or /usr/lib/groff/tmac (1.3) there is a file: man.local 
Add the lines .ll  and/or .pl  (you'll have to put 
these
instructions on seperate lines!)..

In the case of a resolution of 132x60 this would yield to
.pl 59
.ll 132

You'll have to define a pagesize minus one line: for the status-line of 
less/more..

Have fun..
  Bob..

PS.: manual pages called earlier are saved in /var/cache/man/* or /var/catman. 
These are formatted using your current settings.. You'll have to delete these
first before seeing any change for these pages.. Next to that are the 
preformatted pages.. Same problem, but you shouldn't delete these :-)

Re: where to find this bug: "Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 177, chunk 2."

[Martin Fluch]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Does an

  dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf*

help?

Martin

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Gerhard Kroder wrote:

> i try to "apt-get upgrade" and get this error since a week or two. and
> since i don't understand perl enough i can't realy trace back. is it a
> problem of perl perl5005, debconf, dpkg? what to do?
> 
> > apt-get upgrade
> > Reading Package Lists... Done
> > Building Dependency Tree... Done
> > The following packages have been kept back
> >   debiandoc-sgml gnuplot guile1.3 libopenldap1 netstd ssh-askpass-ptk
> > 205 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
> > 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
> > Need to get 0B/82.7MB of archives. After unpacking 3555kB will be used.
> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> >
> > stty: standard input: Invalid argument
> > stty: standard input: Invalid argument
> > 100% [Scanning packages]
> > Configuring packages ...
> > Use of uninitialized value at 
> > /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 177,  chunk 2.
> > Use of uninitialized value at 
> > /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 103,  chunk 2.
> > This shouldn't happen at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Text/Wrap.pm line 45,  chunk 
> > 2.
> > E: Sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (255)
> > E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt

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Potato ISO-Images

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello, 

can anyone tell me, where I can get the 
ISO-Images for Potato with Kernet 2.2.13 ?

I was searching but without success.

Michelle

Re: Potato upgrade [PERL]

[J Horacio MG]

> After a long battle with an upgrade to potato from a very customized slink am
> allmost happy. I just miss one thing:
> I cannot start gdm due to some wierd problem. It complains about the user and
> group for /var/gdm. Supposedly they should be nobody:deamon but that doesn't
> work either. In Slink it was root who owned everything regarding to gdm. Has
> that changed?
> 
> Another thing. When I install new packages from dselect I get an error:
> Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305
> 
> Is this a general error (I haven't seen it on any other potato-machines)?

I recently had a similar problem with xdm after trying to install
perl5005.  The problem was that perl5005 conflicts with perl_5004, and
the former couldn't be installed thereof, and the later couldn't be
removed due to many packages depending on it.

I wrote to the list and got no answer, and wrote to the perl maintainer
but no answer either.  Finally, I removed all packages depending on
perl_5004, etc, installed perl5005, and reinstalled (well, upgrades) all
previously uninstalled packages.

Now, the /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/... message at boot up is gone, and xdm is
up and working again.  Just FYI, I send you a `dpkg -l' with all my perl
related installation:

ii  perl-5.005  5.005.03-4 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and
ii  perl-5.005-base 5.005.03-4 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish
ii  perl-5.005-debu 5.005.03-4 View internals of Perl and debug Perl
ii  perl-5.005-doc  5.005.03-4 Man pages and pod docs for Perl
ii  perl-5.005-suid 5.005.03-4 Runs setuid Perl scripts.
ii  perl-base   5.004.05-1 Fake package assuring that one of the
ii  perl-tk 800.015-1  Perl module providing the Tk graphics
ii  perlmagick  4.28-4 A perl interface to the libMagick
ii  perlsgml97.09.18-3 tools to build and analyze SGML


Check out dependencies and requirements, uninstall all packages which
depend on old perl (write down which ones and get the newer ones from
potato), uninstall old perl, and install everything new.


HTH

p.s.  btw, there was a fairly small perl... hold on... ok... I also had
to install the following:

perl-base_5.004.05-1.deb

Package: perl-base
 Version: 5.004.05-1
 Architecture: all
 Essential: yes
 Depends: perl5-base
 Installed-Size: 7
 Maintainer: Darren Stalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Description: Fake package assuring that one of the -base package
  is installed
  This package depends on perl5-base that is provided by
  the various perl-...-base package. It's essential.
 ^^

Good luck!

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Xemacs->Print-to-file HOW?

[Eric G . Miller]

I know this is a little off topic. I'm trying to figure out how to get
Xemacs(21) to pretty-print to file. The closest I came was setting the
lpr command to gv, with the argument '-'. gv comes up and displays the
file but menus like 'Save Document As' are greyed out. Any ideas here?
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Re: where to find this bug: "Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 177, chunk 2."

[Gerhard Kroder]

Martin Fluch wrote:

> Does an
>
>   dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf*
>
> help?

oh, yes,  cycled  from .22 up  to .48  why didn't debconf update
throughout regular  apt-get update
cycles?

gerhard

[Linux: Router] What does I need ???

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello and good day.

OK, today in the morning I have downloaded the Base-Installation 
of Potato.

Now, my Question is, WHAT DOES I NEED to install a simpel Router ???

I have 5 NIC's 3c509-TPO and a fixed IP-Adress from my Provider (eth0). 
The cable modem 2 will be installed next year but I like to install 
the Router complete. 
A small note: A cable modem can run ONLY 8 fixed IP-Addresses.

eth0Kabel-Modem 1
eth1Kabel-Modem 2   (Not availlable yet)
eth2HUB 1   192.168.1.x public network
eth3HUB 2   192.168.2.x private network
eth4HUB 3   192.168.3.x secure network  (Not availlable yet)

Curently I must work with IP-Masquerading only...
...but it runs.

OK, I have a LRP 2.9.4 box running which is based on Debian 2.1 (2.0.36). 
I have no knowledge from ipchains and ...

The last weekend I have tried RedHat and DLD but I almost gave me a shoot...

Back to Linux, - Back to Debian !!!

I hope you can help me 

Thanks

Michelle

Crash windows with ping?

[Horvath Zsolt]

Hi

I've heard windows will crash when I ping it. What parameters have ping in
this case?

Zso

/etc/profile

[Fish Smith]

Apologies for the blank space up here.  I'm having
mailer problems.  Of course if I could type my
listserv addresses right I wouldn't have to forward
the bounce-backs twice...
Please CC replies to me, as I am not subscribed to
the
list. Thanx.

My /etc/profile reads like this:
# /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for
bash(1).

PATH=".:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin"
PS1="\\$ "
s9x() { snes9x /.roms/$1 }
play() { mpg123 $*>/dev/null& }
l() { dir $*|less }
export PATH PS1
umask 002

With a few blank lines thrown in to mark off
sections,
but I have limited space in my mailer.  Every time I
login I get "bash: /etc/profile: line XX (varies as
I
tinker trying to get it to work, but always the last
line): syntax error: unexpected end of file
I don't know what it expects me to put before the
end
of the file, because before it was just fine, and my
prompt, path and functions work now.  It looks just
about the same as my individual ~/.bash_profile
files,
which also work fine.
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Re: PPP not working after reinstall

[Ookhoi]

> > I'm sending this e-mail using Windowze because my Linux box was
> > reinstalled (the primary HD was broken) and PPP isnt working. I used 
> > pppconfig
> > to configure. I estabilish the connection with pon but the connection's
> > velocity doesnt pass above 0 bytes, even pinging or ftping.
> > What can be wrong?
> > Thanks for any help. Using Windows is getting me nervous. :)
> 
> May be You need "defaultroute" option for pppd ?
> Take a look at route output after connection and see if there a deafult route 
> through
> ppp0 ?

Last week I installed Potato, and I didn't get PPP to work. I check and
changed a lot in the ppp config, but nothing helped. It indeed doesn't
seem to create a defaultroute (but of course defaultroute was 'on').
It could still be silly me, but now I read this, it could also be a
Potato problem?

Ookhoi

using X Toolkit API on slink - Pushbutton.h?

[John Miskinis]

Hello,

  I'm trying to get a full X Development system put together
based on slink.  I am trying to get some simple XT examples to
compile.  (although I have lesstif and GTK working nicely)

  There is no "Pushbutton.h" file on my system anywhere, although
in the Xaw directory "Box.h" and "Label.h" are there.

**   Do I need to install more packages for XT development?

  All my books are X11 R5 based, but I doubt that the push button
widget went away in R6!

Help!

John

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Re: char-major-5

[Serge Gavrilov]

On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 07:55:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> One other char-major problem. When I start my ppp session with pon, I get a
> "Can't locate module char-major-108". The session works ok. I tried compiling
> ppp as a module instead of in the kernel (it worked with char-major-5), but 
> that
> didn't solve anything. I did modprobe -c, but the I could only find "alias
> char-major-107 3dfx", no -108 anywhere.
> 
> Do you know what char-major-108 is supposed to be? Is it part of ppp?
> 

Hello!

Do you resolve this problem? I have the same. I added /dev/ppp c 108 0, 
but nothing changes.

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Institute for Problems in Mechanical Engineering, Laboratory of Hydroelasticity,
St.Petersburg, Russia |  URL: http://www.ipme.ru/ipme/labs/he/serge.htm

Re: sorting and naming files

[Marc Mongeon]

The following should do approximately what you want:

$ i=1
$ for f in `ls | sort`
> do
> mv $f text${i}.txt
> i=`expr $i + 1`
> done

'man bash', 'man sort', and 'man expr' should give you some more
insight into what these commands do.

Marc

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>>> "Alexander P. Barkey (hypnotic)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/24 8:04 PM >>>
hi
is there any way to sort and name the files in a directory?

for example...the files are all called like they have been downloaded...
now i want them to be like "text01.txt" "text02.txt" etc...

how can i do that?

thx
Alexander P. Barkey

lost HDD space

[debian]

Hi all,

I have an 8.5 Gig HDD but my total partition space
comes to only 7.2 Gigs.  Id there a way for me to 
create a new partition to use the missing 1.3 Gigs.  

I've been using SAMBA to copy my kids games to the
Linux server and run them from the network instead
of the CD drive.  Great speed but I'm running out
of space :-(

Thanks in advance!

Patrick


PS - just thought that there are two 125 MB swap 
partitions so that's 250 accounted for.

Re: char-major-5

[mheyes]

These were the steps I followed to solve the problem. Thanks to Colin for his
help!

Michael Heyes



With ppp as a module, try putting the line "alias char-major-108 ppp"
into /etc/modutils/aliases and running 'update-modules' then 'depmod -a'
to see if that solves the problem. (modprobe reads from
/etc/modules.conf, which is generated from /etc/modutils/* by
update-modules, to determine where to find modules.)







Serge Gavrilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/29/99 08:19:52 AM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   Mike Heyes/LincolnFP/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:   Debian User Mailing List 

Subject:  Re: char-major-5




On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 07:55:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> One other char-major problem. When I start my ppp session with pon, I get a
> "Can't locate module char-major-108". The session works ok. I tried compiling
> ppp as a module instead of in the kernel (it worked with char-major-5), but
that
> didn't solve anything. I did modprobe -c, but the I could only find "alias
> char-major-107 3dfx", no -108 anywhere.
>
> Do you know what char-major-108 is supposed to be? Is it part of ppp?
>

Hello!

Do you resolve this problem? I have the same. I added /dev/ppp c 108 0,
but nothing changes.

--
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Institute for Problems in Mechanical Engineering, Laboratory of Hydroelasticity,
St.Petersburg, Russia |  URL: http://www.ipme.ru/ipme/labs/he/serge.htm

Re: /etc/profile

[Patrick Kirk]

Absolutely

same-gnome kills sawmill

[Pedro Sanchez]

The following looks to me like a bug against sawmill: Launch the "same
gnome" game and click the "maximize" button. This always logs me out of
the gnome-session (which is my only command in .xsession) killing all
other applications except communicator which has to be killed manually.
This doesn't happen when running Enlightenment.

Can you verify this?

--
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Re: PPP not working after reinstall

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

The problem is already solved. I'm putting the gateway as the ethernet
card.
Quoting Ookhoi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > I'm sending this e-mail using Windowze because my Linux box was
> > > reinstalled (the primary HD was broken) and PPP isnt working. I used 
> > > pppconfig
> > > to configure. I estabilish the connection with pon but the connection's
> > > velocity doesnt pass above 0 bytes, even pinging or ftping.
> > > What can be wrong?
> > > Thanks for any help. Using Windows is getting me nervous. :)
> > 
> > May be You need "defaultroute" option for pppd ?
> > Take a look at route output after connection and see if there a deafult 
> > route through
> > ppp0 ?
> 
> Last week I installed Potato, and I didn't get PPP to work. I check and
> changed a lot in the ppp config, but nothing helped. It indeed doesn't
> seem to create a defaultroute (but of course defaultroute was 'on').
> It could still be silly me, but now I read this, it could also be a
> Potato problem?
> 
>   Ookhoi

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Brazil

Re: Xemacs->Print-to-file HOW?

[David Z. Maze]

Eric G Miller  writes:
EGM> I know this is a little off topic. I'm trying to figure out how to get
EGM> Xemacs(21) to pretty-print to file.

Use a prefix argument, like C-u M-x ps-print-buffer-with-faces.  This
will prompt you for a filename.

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Re: CD-Writer recomendation!

[Cyrus Patel]

Hey Manuel,

I've got a Panasonic (Matshita) 8x read/4x write scsi burner and so far it
has worked perfectly for me. cdrecord identified it immeadiately and it hooked
up to my existing scsi card without any problems.

Manuel Arenaz Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello again,
> 
> A friend of mine is interested in buying a CD-Writer. He asked me to
> recomend a model to him, but I have no idea. Can anyone help me to go
> through this situation?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Manuel Arenaz
> 
> 
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Re: floppies' .bin

[Laurent PICOULEAU]

On Mon, 29 Nov, 1999 à 06:59:43AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering whether Debian could change the format of the distributed
> .bin files in the installation floppies. Currently, it seems that the

$ file /cdrom/dists/slink/main/disks-i386/current/resc1440.bin
/cdrom/dists/slink/main/disks-i386/current/resc1440.bin: x86 boot sector, 
system SYSLINUX, FAT (12 bit) unlabeled, 2880 sectors

So this is fat with syslinux installed. lowmem.bin also
drv1440.bin is an msdos floppy too

$ file /cdrom/dists/slink/main/disks-i386/current/base14-1.bin
/cdrom/dists/slink/main/disks-i386/current/base14-1.bin: data

So this is tar floppy
> 
> Imagine that the the floppies are in ext2 format; in the first install
[...] 
> Or, better yet, if you have some Linux already running, you could
> download the images and then mount each file using the "loop" option
> (like in: mount -t ext2 -o loop /tmp/floppy1_bin /mnt) and then do the

You can already for rescue and driver floppies, simply use -t msdos instead
of -t ext2. BTW on floppies, fat is more useful than ext2 (you're more
worried by space than by speed on a floppy). For base14-[1-7].bin, why
not using tar directly ???

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Re: Crash windows with ping?

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 01:16:50PM +0100, Horvath Zsolt wrote:
> I've heard windows will crash when I ping it. What parameters have ping in
> this case?
Search the net for "teardrop" this nice program does the trick...
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Re: char-major-5

[Serge Gavrilov]

On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 09:03:21AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> These were the steps I followed to solve the problem. Thanks to Colin for his
> help!
> 
> Michael Heyes
> 
> 
> 
> With ppp as a module, try putting the line "alias char-major-108 ppp"
> into /etc/modutils/aliases and running 'update-modules' then 'depmod -a'
> to see if that solves the problem. (modprobe reads from
> /etc/modules.conf, which is generated from /etc/modutils/* by
> update-modules, to determine where to find modules.)
> 
>

Thanks, Michael!

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St.Petersburg, Russia |  URL: http://www.ipme.ru/ipme/labs/he/serge.htm

Re: Potato ISO-Images

[Adam C Powell IV]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> can anyone tell me, where I can get the
> ISO-Images for Potato with Kernet 2.2.13 ?

I don't think there are any potato ISO images at this point.  We don't even have
finished boot floppies for many platforms!

Sorry,

-Adam P.

Re: CD-Writer recomendation!

[Adam C Powell IV]

Manuel Arenaz Silva wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> A friend of mine is interested in buying a CD-Writer. He asked me to
> recomend a model to him, but I have no idea. Can anyone help me to go
> through this situation?

There's a nice document on IDE CD-Rs and Zips at
http://www.tcu-inc.com/mark/articles/Ide.html

Zeen,

-Adam P.

Gibberish on switching X to console

[Anthony Campbell]

I've just installed Debian on my son's computer; everything has gone
pretty smoothly except that when I switch from X to a console I
frequently get gibberish. I can't clear it with reset, tty sane, or 
ctrl-v ctrl-c and I have to reboot,

I seem to have read something about this one but I can't remember where.
Any suggestions gratefully received.

Anthony


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Re: Gibberish on switching X to console

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I've just installed Debian on my son's computer; everything has gone
> pretty smoothly except that when I switch from X to a console I
> frequently get gibberish. I can't clear it with reset, tty sane, or
> ctrl-v ctrl-c and I have to reboot,

That happens with some combinations of video cards and X servers.  For
example:

 * Matrox G200 AGP with XF86_SVGA -> no problem text->X and back
 * S3 ViRGE with XF86_SVGA -> same problem you have
 * S3 ViRGE with XF86_S3V -> no problem text->X and back
(on the S3 it might be the other way around - it's been a while since I've
tried)

Without knowing more about your computer, the only thing I can say
is: Don't do that!

Sorry.

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WebMail

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi all,
anyone knows about a webmail software to use?
I want to provide webmail for my site.
Thanks, Paulo Henrique

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Re: Gibberish on switching X to console

[Remco van 't Veer]

I had a similar problem with S3 ViRGE with XF86_SVGA, the console
character set got fd up after switching from X to a VC.  I used to
fix this by running "setfont" (from the kdb package) after every
switch..

HTH,
Remco


On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 09:48, Phil Brutsche wrote:

> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
> 
> > I've just installed Debian on my son's computer; everything has gone
> > pretty smoothly except that when I switch from X to a console I
> > frequently get gibberish. I can't clear it with reset, tty sane, or
> > ctrl-v ctrl-c and I have to reboot,
> 
> That happens with some combinations of video cards and X servers.  For
> example:
> 
>  * Matrox G200 AGP with XF86_SVGA -> no problem text->X and back
>  * S3 ViRGE with XF86_SVGA -> same problem you have
>  * S3 ViRGE with XF86_S3V -> no problem text->X and back
> (on the S3 it might be the other way around - it's been a while since I've
> tried)
> 
> Without knowing more about your computer, the only thing I can say
> is: Don't do that!
> 
> Sorry.


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Re: WebMail

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:

>   anyone knows about a webmail software to use?
>   I want to provide webmail for my site.

Check out the following URL's.  At least one of these packages is
available in .deb format.

http://webmail.wastl.net/
http://webbasedemail.com/
http://www.horde.org/imp/

HTH,
noah

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Re: staroffice, potato (patching the kernel)

[aphro]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, J Horacio MG wrote:

homega >aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something about a patch.  How do I apply
homega >a patch to the kernel?  I mean, just by:

I believe the patch i mentioned (from kt.linuxcare.com) doesn't *yet*
exist as far as i know, SO should work with 2.2.10 although i bet 2.2.13
would break it (i have SO working on slink on 2.2.10)

homega >Is 0 the right -pnumber?

depends on the patch .. can be 1 or 0 ..if a patch doesnt work switch
numbers and try again ..

nate

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help

[Kit]

I have a Pentium 233MMX, 64 mg Ram, 8.4 gig HD (partitioned into 4
parts)master,
I wish to install into the G:\ drive which has nothing on it...1.8 gigs.
using windows 98 2nd edition.

1. will I have enough space?

I downloaded all files in "
ftp://ftp.debian.us.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386";

2. are these the correct files I should download? if not,which ones?

3. I have ICQ...is there someone that can walk me thru the install,never
done this before,
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Re: CD-Writer recomendation!

[aphro]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Manuel Arenaz Silva wrote:

arenaz >Hello again,
arenaz >
arenaz >A friend of mine is interested in buying a CD-Writer. He asked me to
arenaz >recomend a model to him, but I have no idea. Can anyone help me to go
arenaz >through this situation?

I have had a lot of success with the PAnasonic CW-7502B (4x write 8x
read) in both xcdroast(cdrecord) and cdrwin(under wine)

i think the 4x8x is rare now and you may only be able to find the 8x20x
version (i think thats it)

nate

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Re: Crash windows with ping?

[aphro]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Horvath Zsolt wrote:

hz133 >Hi
hz133 >
hz133 >I've heard windows will crash when I ping it. What parameters have ping 
in
hz133 >this case?

Thats not entirely true, some versions of (unpatcheD) windows will crap
out with some fragmented icmp or igmp packets but i dont remember any
flaws related to a normal ping.  there are many many exploits available
for those unpatched copies of windows..check anticode.com

nate

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Re: WebMail

[aphro]

http://webmail.wastl.net/

is the "Webmail" homepage, its a server-side java mail thingie that is
easy to setup, with an IMAP host to verify passwords..can sedtup multiple
accounts, has all kinds of cool stuff, debian package too.

downside though, its a memory hog, make sure u got at least 40-50MB
available for this one.

nate

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baptis >Hi all,
baptis >anyone knows about a webmail software to use?
baptis >I want to provide webmail for my site.
baptis >Thanks, Paulo Henrique
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Re: Help after upgrade to potato!

[Shaul Karl]

> Hi all,
> 
> 1. After upgrade to potato from slink the ethernet card is not working any
>  longer. How do I reenable it?

Is it being detected correctly? What error messages are you getting? What have 
you tried to do?

> 2. The old kernel is still there, how do I upgrade to 2.2.x?
> 

apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.13?