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go, the docs mention nothing about
SQL-injection, because the ORM and the API for raw SQL (via
cursor.execute) do not open up vulnerabilities. The template docs
*do* talk about XSS under the 'Automatic HTML escaping' section,
because that is a bit of 'magic' that the developer
s anyone screams.
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> fantastic subject for a sprint discussion.
No, I'm afraid not (though I'd love to go). I have a full time job
which is not programming related, and it would be too far for me
anyway (I'm in the UK).
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http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/9163
To me, this confirms my gut instinct (or rather, Jacob's), that post-
processing the response is really nasty.
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RF mechanism.
So keeping it as contrib and not in core might be an advantage if some
websites have special requirements, or the bundled CSRF mechanism becomes
outdated.
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your CSRF protection mechanism like you can
with the template tag and middleware.
But I'll wait 'til I see your proposal.
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gt; It was committed 6 months ago?
>
> http://code.djangoproject.com/changeset/10030
That would be #10463, not #10436
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and zero changes to tests. That's better than some projects, because I
obviously must have already been using RequestContext for all POST forms, but
I don't think that will be atypical.
OK, I'm done!
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> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Luke Plant wrote:
> > If the target of a is internal:
> > * add {% load csrf %} to the template and {% csrf_token %} to the form
> > * use RequestContext in t
;t use the view function
arguments (e.g. the request object), otherwise it would fail). Does anyone
have a nice solution to this?
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> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Luke Plant wrote:
> > However, decorator_from_middleware is a pain, since it doesn't always
> > return a an actual decorator, for "historical reasons". I need to chang
hich is a refinement we can add later.
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On Tuesday 22 September 2009 13:12:51 Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Luke Plant wrote:
> > I've left most of the code itself under django/contrib/csrf because:
> >
> > 1) backwards compatibility with people importing the middleware
>
#x27;my_template.html', ...)
-- my_template.html --
{% csrf_token "myform" %}
The only question mark in my mind is what happens with multiple forms on a
page (e.g. when you have a login box on every page). It might not be an issue
- the target of the login box will be
On Tuesday 22 September 2009 21:31:08 James Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Luke Plant
wrote:
> > I've committed my change [1], and also replaced _CheckLogin
> > with my method [2] (it was essentially the same method, just
> > generalised).
>
&g
e(CacheMiddleware)
>
> Is it correct?
Nope, should be decorator_from_middleware_with_args of course,
thanks, will fix.
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[1] http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/cache/#the-per-view-
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On Tuesday 22 September 2009 21:24:48 Luke Plant wrote:
> 2) Get the view to be exempted from the normal CSRF checks done
> by the middleware. Thankfully, we already have not one but two
> ways of doing this - the manual @csrf_exempt decorator on views,
> and the internal me
ome asserts to get a better error
message for now unsupported ways of calling it. Do you think this is
enough?
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ods".
So, in light of those things, should it be backported to 1.1.X or not?
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existing signed messages, especially persistent ones like those stored
in password files etc.
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t of the application was essentially allowing the user
to retrieve MD5(secret_key + user_supplied_data) (might have been HMAC
or SHA1), which allowed them to get past another bit of security.
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etc. Where should it go? It's currently in 'extras/' which seems to
be the right place.
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t something
to make using RequestContext easier and simpler.
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specific support for it in cache_page would make it harder to remove.
Does anyone else know if we want to expose all the arguments of
CacheMiddleware in cache_page? I can easily add them if so.
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hit for me anyway.
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On Wednesday 14 October 2009 15:32:11 Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Luke Plant
wrote:
> > I want to fix #6552 (also #12031), and I've attached a patch that
> > makes the auth context processor lazy.
>
> The patch looks good to me. The
se in this case.
If people find other uses for it, almost all the functionality is in
LazyObject anyway, which is as generic as it sounds.
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On Wednesday 14 October 2009 16:39:31 Luke Plant wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 October 2009 15:54:25 Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> > > * the output of {{ user }} in a template will be different. I
> > > think this is acceptable, because only things like {{
> > > user.u
.__dir__())
Any objections to this? I can only imagine that it will affect
interactive usage at the Python prompt in a few obscure cases, if
anything. But I could have missed something.
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without losing that.
Given where we are right now, I think it's the best option so far.
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not deprecated, then we do have two systems.
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rry about import lines :-) Not that I don't have a
complete test suite on all my projects that would catch any missing
imports, of course... ;-)
Hmm, for me this boils down to whether I'm feeling lazy or feeling
like a perfectionist, opt
be bit as described above, than bit by me
changing it, especially if I document it in release notes.
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more recent one:
You wrote:
> Luke Plant wrote:
> > The Django devs don't think that everything to do with view
> > functions is perfect, but I for one would be against changing the
> > whole way they work. The basic definition of a view function:
> >
&
changes and complete tests for the auth context processor,
including the different configurations that are allowed
(with and without the messages app, for instance). I think
the auth context processor should call the messages one,
so that you get the same result whether you use one or
the o
es.
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unfortunate oversight.
Nonetheless, I don't think that oversight will change the plan.
Python 2.4 was released nearly 5 years ago, so it's hardly
unreasonable for us to drop support for 2.3.
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templates which don't have the CSRF token.
Beyond that, I'll need more details!
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On Tuesday 27 October 2009 13:03:14 Luke Plant wrote:
> If you have supplied custom templates to contrib views that accept
> POST requests (e.g. auth login etc.), the template may need
> updating. The steps needed are fully described in the docs, but in
> short:
>
> In
ritical anyway), so this doesn't really add any
maintenance burden to Django.
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> I get this output from a newly created project with the latest
> trunk:
>
>
> Any suggestions? I suspect the python path is missing something,
> also the server stops responding, just sits there and no further
> requests are served.
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d some.
Perhaps we could have two sections on that page — all release notes,
and upgrading notes. Or, next to 'final' releases there could be an
additional link to the 'backwards incompatible changes' section, along
with some notes at the top explaining the page.
Luke
-
you put
"versionchanged:: 1.2", our docs are set up to parse that as referring
to the next version of Django, so it says "Development version". The
same isn't true of 1.1.2. I don't know how this should be handled.
Perhaps the easiest way is to start the tentative 1
don't
know of any other language where keywords can be treated as variables
if the keyword doesn't make sense in that position...
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changed your implementation slightly — I added explicit classes for
Less, LessOrEqual, NotEqual and Not, pulling out the 'negate'
behaviour from the individual classes (it made implementing the Null
logic simpler). Other than that, very little of the p
On Monday 30 November 2009 20:27:32 SmileyChris wrote:
> On Dec 1, 6:08 am, Luke Plant wrote:
> > Given that the 'Null' stuff has now been removed, we could
> > move back to your way to reduce the code a bit, but I'm not sure
> > it is worth it.
>
> I&
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Should new code use two lines between top level classes &
> functions, like PEP 8 suggests, or should the contributing guide
> be updated?
I had no idea it said that! I had got so used to Django's style that
anything else just grated...
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ticket as well, right?
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seems unreasonable that {% if x == y %} behaves so differently from
{% ifequal x y %} in this regard. (Actually, I didn't test that.
Perhaps the behaviour of 'if' has changed with the smart if code).
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On Saturday 05 December 2009 20:09:21 Luke Plant wrote:
> I'm not likely to able to look at this before Tuesday. If anyone
> wants to look at it, I think the right approach is something like
> the following:
> http://effbot.org/zone/simple-top-down-parsing.htm
> (without th
ng the other way is also possible, with a similar level of
fragility.
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method is replaced by one without, or by one with a buggy
__contains__() method that throws exceptions, it's more useful and
arguably more correct to get an exception than for the 'if' tag
expression to return False.
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An explicit __contains__ method also protects us against changes in
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On Wednesday 09 December 2009 01:52:48 Jeremy Dunck wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Luke Plant
> wrote: ...
>
> > However, it could be slightly more efficient in some cases,
> > because the entire QuerySet._result_cache does not necessarily
> > need to be
nt in
> honoring it in the first place.
Very good point. You convinced me easily, contrary to tradition this
time :-)
Thanks for the review again.
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freedom to drop it if that seems like a good idea.
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on't want the
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depend on installation and upgrade order.
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> wrote: ...
>
> > The problem with signals is that they don't return values, and so
> > the mechanism can't interact with the actual login process. It
> &
need to be specified in painstaking detail.
Other than that, I think the PendingDeprecationWarnings are OK.
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And an entry in the 1.2 release notes is needed.
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or not, but we
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So for now, maybe just update the release notes so they don't say that
the new LatestEntries class is identical to before, or a caveat like
"if you are only using the high level feed
he review stage. Russell mentioned adding the warnings, but said it
might be hard to do (presumably because of the above problem). The
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thing. Hence this bug. However, I can't actually come up with a nicer
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So, +1 to changing this, as well as some fixes to the comments in the
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le, unless you pass the request object to the Form
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> DEFAULT_DATETIME_INPUT_FORMATS = lazy(lambda:
> en_format('DATETIME_INPUT_FORMATS'), tuple, list)()
Personally I wouldn't worry about people who are monkey patching -
they ought to expect things to break. But I don't think this addition
will harm either.
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> Any thoughts on Django's auth using HMAC besides md5 and sha1
> hashing alone?
It sounds like a good idea, I'm not aware of any particular problems
with our current implementation that
cookies,
in which case just signing "name=value" should be enough (provided the
developer doesn't do something silly like make "=" part of the name of
the cookie).
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p1.fans.add(p2)
needs to send a different signal than
p1.favorites.add(p2)
and with your patch it wouldn't. But my brain doesn't seem to be
functioning properly today, I may have made a mistake.
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ill help:
- 'set()' is nicer than 'set([])'
- in topics/auth.html, it would be nice to document that the backend
should be able to cope with anonymous users being passed to
has_perm().
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