Re: Dropping awk?

2025-05-12 Thread Richard Lewis
Simon Josefsson writes: > Having some mechanism to create package-specific users seems like one > useful goal, and I don't understand why each package has to write > scripts to invoke 'adduser' and deal with all the complexity around > that on their own. systemd-sysusers does this?

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:54:38 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: >On 12/05/25 09:49, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:58:12PM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >>> Regardless of what branch names packages use today or in the future, >>> they should all have a debian/gbp.conf file that def

Bug#1105145: ITP: linux-board-support-package-rb3gen2 -- Firmware for RB3Gen2

2025-05-12 Thread Roger Shimizu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Roger Shimizu X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, r...@debian.org * Package name: linux-board-support-package-rb3gen2 Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Linaro * URL : https://artifacts.codelinaro.org/ui/native/qli-ci/flash

Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 11/05/25 at 23:40 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote: > While this is accurate considering the latest DEP-14 version, it > should be noted that the first DEP-14 draft allowed 'master' as the > main branch for native packages and up to 2020-11-29 DEP-14 > recommended debian/master instead of debian/lates

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Richard Lewis
Holger Levsen writes: > On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:58:12PM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >> Regardless of what branch names packages use today or in the future, >> they should all have a debian/gbp.conf file that defines what >> branches and packaging practices are being used *right now*. > > I

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 12/05/25 09:49, Holger Levsen wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:58:12PM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: Regardless of what branch names packages use today or in the future, they should all have a debian/gbp.conf file that defines what branches and packaging practices are being used *right now*.

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-05-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 12, Simon Josefsson wrote: Having some mechanism to create package-specific users seems like one useful goal, and I don't understand why each package has to write scripts to invoke 'adduser' and deal with all the complexity around that on their own. There could be a declarative interfac

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 08:32:24AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > debian/README.source as described in the developers-reference. and even in https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-readmesource -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|la

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
> debian/README.source as described in the developers-reference. It would be great also to have an easy way to cherry peak from the upstream git repository in order to prepare patch series. Do we have a tool around DEP-14, which allows this ?

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-05-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
Bill Allombert writes: > Le Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 11:22:04PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin a écrit : >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 06:25:53PM +0100, Josh Triplett wrote: >> > What I'm suggesting here is that if every individual package that needs >> > awk has a Depends on it (via a package that allows s

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 09:54:38AM +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: Regardless of what branch names packages use today or in the future, they should all have a debian/gbp.conf file that defines what branches and packaging practices are being used *right now*. I dont want to use git-buildpackage a

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 09:09:23AM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: > > I dont want to use git-buildpackage and I don't want a > > gpb.conf. Please accept this. Thanks. > is there another way people can use to understand how to build the > package? debian/README.source as described in the developers-re

git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:58:12PM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > > I think this significantly underestimates the annoyance involved in > > > renaming > > > existing long-lived branches (in that all clients have to re-clone or > > > manually adjust), which is certainly why I generally avoid doi

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 11:58:45AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: El 12/5/25 a las 9:49, Holger Levsen escribió: I dont want to use git-buildpackage and I don't want a gpb.conf. Please accept this. Thanks. I also don't like the idea of adding a gpb.conf to each and every package. Yes, in most c

Re: ITN procedure - more words, fewer acronyms please?

2025-05-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 10 May 2025 at 11:20:41 +0100, Wookey wrote: ITM Modernise ITU Update ITR Revamp move-to-collective-maintainership (failing to think a good short name here - maybe:) ITC Collectivise ? ITPM Publically Maintain Whichever conventional name is chosen (one of these or something else), m

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools

2025-05-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:04:38 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Regarding "I don't want a gbp.conf", I think that we should aim for DRY, and that adding a gbp.conf in every package doesn't sound too great for teams that maintain hundreds or thousands of packages... Yes, please. Cheers, gregor, who

Re: Using official Debian images in podman

2025-05-12 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le lun. 12 mai 2025 à 18:09, Enrico Zini a écrit : > Hello, > > I would like to try out podman in Debian, but I would like it to be > configured to only use officially built Debian images[1]. > > By default podman in Debian will not access remote repositories. > > Following the podman page in the

Re: FTBFS when /bin is before /usr/bin in PATH?

2025-05-12 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Hi Simon, On 06/05/2025 16:24, Simon Josefsson wrote: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1104784 Nice catch. That's an interesting failure mode, probably another one that was not completely anticipated by sponsors of /bin -> /usr/bin directory aliasing, and it's likely to affe

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi, Sean Whitton ezt írta (időpont: 2025. máj. 12., H, 13:11): > > Hello, > > On Mon 12 May 2025 at 10:37am +02, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > > >> debian/README.source as described in the developers-reference. > > > > It would be great also to have an easy way to cherry peak from the upstream

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 12/05/25 at 07:49 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Regardless of what branch names packages use today or in the future, > > they should all have a debian/gbp.conf file that defines what branches > > and packaging practices are being used *right now*. > > I dont want to use git-buildpackage and I

Re: Intend To Orphan (ITO) procedure?

2025-05-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Andreas, Am Fri, May 09, 2025 at 07:15:09PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler: > > How do you go about that? Do you poll the respective team whether they > are committing to maintain it? I'm a member of several Debian teams, including Debian Science, Games, Multimedia, Perl, and Java. Many of the

Re: ITN procedure?

2025-05-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Sat, May 10, 2025 at 11:20:41AM +0100 schrieb Wookey: > On 2025-05-08 10:00 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Am Wed, May 07, 2025 at 10:27:03PM +0200 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: > > > > Can we please stop calling it an intent to NMU when it is invasive? > > > > You're right--"Intent To NMU" is a

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 12 May 2025 at 03:04pm +02, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 12/05/25 at 07:49 +, Holger Levsen wrote: >> > Regardless of what branch names packages use today or in the future, >> > they should all have a debian/gbp.conf file that defines what branches >> > and packaging practices are

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-05-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
Marco d'Itri writes: > On May 12, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >>Having some mechanism to create package-specific users seems like one >>useful goal, and I don't understand why each package has to write >>scripts to invoke 'adduser' and deal with all the complexity around that >>on their own. There

Pythonista wanted for help with tag2upload testing

2025-05-12 Thread Ian Jackson
tl;dr: - Can you read Python fluently? - Are you available for a small code-reading task in the next week? - Would you like to help with tag2upload? If so, please get in touch! No knowledge of tag2upload needed. No actual programming involved - unless you want to :-). Hi. It looks like

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-05-12 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On 12/05/2025 21:52, Simon Josefsson wrote: Marco d'Itri writes: On May 12, Simon Josefsson wrote: Having some mechanism to create package-specific users seems like one useful goal, and I don't understand why each package has to write scripts to invoke 'adduser' and deal with all the complexi

Re: Upcoming d-i release vs. hard freeze

2025-05-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 19:58:10 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: For various reasons, I'll be trying to get D-I Trixie RC 1 out this week, and I might freeze udeb-producing packages right away, or in the very next few hours/days. As a general rule, would you prefer maintainers of udeb-producing p

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools

2025-05-12 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> >Regarding "I don't want a gbp.conf", I think that we should aim for DRY, > >and that adding a gbp.conf in every package doesn't sound too great for > >teams that maintain hundreds or thousands of packages... > > Yes, please. That could have been an option 10 years ago when people were creating

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > >> debian/README.source as described in the developers-reference. > > > > > > It would be great also to have an easy way to cherry peak from the > > > upstream > > > git repository in order to prepare patch series. > > > > > > Do we have a tool around DEP-14, which allows this ? > > > > Well,

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 12 May 2025 at 10:37am +02, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: >> debian/README.source as described in the developers-reference. > > It would be great also to have an easy way to cherry peak from the upstream > git repository in order to prepare patch series. > > Do we have a tool aroun

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference

2025-05-12 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 12 May 2025 at 01:27pm +02, Bálint Réczey wrote: > Hi, > > Sean Whitton ezt írta (időpont: 2025. máj. > 12., H, 13:11): >> >> Hello, >> >> On Mon 12 May 2025 at 10:37am +02, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: >> >> >> debian/README.source as described in the developers-reference. >> >

Using official Debian images in podman

2025-05-12 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello, I would like to try out podman in Debian, but I would like it to be configured to only use officially built Debian images[1]. By default podman in Debian will not access remote repositories. Following the podman page in the Debian wiki[2], I set up `docker.io` as a registry, so it can fin

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Santiago Vila
El 12/5/25 a las 9:49, Holger Levsen escribió: I dont want to use git-buildpackage and I don't want a gpb.conf. Please accept this. Thanks. I also don't like the idea of adding a gpb.conf to each and every package. Most of my packages don't have such file and Salsa CI is able to build them. M

Re: git branches vs debian specific git tools (Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-12 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 12/05/25 10:31, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 09:54:38AM +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: Regardless of what branch names packages use today or in the future, they should all have a debian/gbp.conf file that defines what branches and packaging practices are being used *righ