Dave Ihnat said:

> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 09:14:23AM -0600, ABrady wrote:
> > I can see the new, improved slogan:
> >
> > "It's so simple, any simpleton can use it!"
> >
> > It would likely lead some windolts away from windoze and let them
> > pretend they're _real_ power users now. In about 20 minutes the
linux
> > world will be flooded with new worms and causing major overloads on
> > servers passing the new Linux Homepage Virus to everybody in each
user's
> > Evolution addressbook.
> >
> > No thanks!
>
> Well, I've lived through the predictions of doom'n'gloom due to the
> incipient presence of the hoi polloi since the early '80s; that's not
> got me so worried, per se.
>
> First, by allowing anyone on USENET--not just academia and
> business/research-- it was going to be degraded below usability.
> In some respects, it was; in others, it just picked up and kept
moving,
> eventually leading to the rise of the Internet.  USENET still lives,
> but is pretty much a backwater compared to its position of preeminence
> in the early days.
>
> Then, it was allowing commercial use of USENET.  THAT was going to
ruin
> it.  In some ways, it got worse, but there were enough bytes to go
around.
>
> THEN, it was anyone and everyone setting up web sites; the pollution
> was going to ruin everything.  THEN, in very short order, it was
> advertisements on the Web.
>
> What's fundamentally different with this is that a major resource
> will be taken over and used as a tool in AOL's war with Microsoft.
> This means it is NOT going to evolve in the same general direction as
a
> "free-range" Linux system, but rather, the focus will be to provide
tools
> and a facade that supports AOL Time-Warner's specific goals.
>
> This will probably remove it from contention as a general-purpose
server
> platform, AND as a high-end professional desktop, since even if they
> _intend_ to try to tell us they're going to continue to provide such
> lines, the inevitable fragmentation of focus, dilution of development
> efforts, and complexity of trying ot maintain several variant product
> lines is an exceedingly difficult task.  And it's made even moreso by
the
> fact that Linux itself is still rapidly evolving, meaning they'd have
to
> absorb new features in all lines concurrently.  I just don't think
they're
> at that level of organization in this field.  Or corporate commitment.
>
> $0.02, YMMV, Pre-coffee.

I don't argue on the side of doom and gloom often. I don't always turn
out right when I do. But I turn out right more often than I turn out
wrong. If it was the other way I'd be less inclined to continue trying.

I don't doubt that AOL would continue to work toward some kind of linux.
Corel did, too. I look at the quality of that product (mediocre) and the
quality of most everything else associated with AOL (bad to mediocre)
when I have serious doubts about what
happens here.

In the beginning, there likely won't be anything to really notice about
changes in things. But, as time passes, things will change. The need to
gain more and more users will be the cause for a push into areas that
aren't aimed at stability and security, but ease of use and eye-candy
and convenience. Things will begin looking a lot like the desktop for
the people that they are fighting against at the expense of much more
important things.

I escaped windoze for several reasons. One of the components I haven't
missed is AOL being on the desktop every time I install or reinstall
anything. Or maybe I should reword that to say I miss them about like I
miss a few ingrown toenails I've had.

I watched them gobble up Netscape. Where is it now?

I look at their commercials (after all, they're everywhere you can look
on TV and in mags) and I see somebody pointing straight at the lowest
common denominator. Well, MS goes for the lowest common denominator.
What is the result from that effort? Ex-Pee with security holes the size
of China, problems with CD writers, themes that won't stay how the users
set them, hardware that doesn't work (even with updated drivers),
spontaneous reboots (as a replacement for the BSOD), stop errors that
are just as cryptic to most people as the hexcodes on BSODs. Not to
mention all of the problems created by the WPA: licenses expiring after
a reinstall that was required due to previous instability, booting and
getting notices that the "trial" installation they are running is about
to timeout (even though it was bought and actiuvate properly), the
inability to install multiple machines with the same release and copy
(except for the coporate versions, which allow everybody to install as
many times as they like, presumably until the BSA comes around and
threatenes to sue them for millions and coerces them into signing their
lives away forever, only using the distro du jour). Obviously, if this
distro becomes a pawn in the shell game of these two, some method will
surely be created to disallow installing parts of one with parts of the
other, so likely there'll be something WPA-like with everything AOL
owns, too.

I look at the fact they gobbled up Time/Warner, who gobbled up Turner.
CNN is losing ground, in part because of the poor quality of their
reporting. But I don't see any major strides in recapturing the market
share they've lost. It might not be AOL's fault, but it's happened on
their watch.

About the only thing I see that actually has grown under AOL is AOL.
I'll tell you, I'm not interested in chat rooms and buddy lists. I don't
need keywords. I don't like spending 20 minutes downloading upgrades to
who knows what every time I login for the first time that day. I did
that before. I quit doing it a long time ago. THAT's what AOL means to
me!

What this very easily could turn out to be IMHO is a slow erosion from
the quality the was RedHat to the simplistic methodology that permeates
everything AOL. Not because of interest in spreading the use of linux,
but in the interest of attracting more users away from MS.

I wouldn't and won't care if the quality continues as it has been. I'll
stick around unless and until I begin seeing signs of erosion. If it
doesn't, I won't

I've lived in several cities in my life. Not suburbs, in the cities.
I've prided myself on always knowing when to move before things turned
ugly. I've been keen on seeing the direction things were going long
before they actually began to appear. I think if I'm watchful enough I
might just be able to do the same here. Again, that presumes it actually
worsens. If it doesn't I have no reason to go anywhere. I'm just not
hopeful, given the track record of AOL, that any version of linux they
own can ever be successful.




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