To *really* delete data requires *35* passes of overwriting with specific
bit patterns carefully designed with the disk coding schemes in mind.

very frightening!  check out

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/secure_del.html

for a good read!

-matt

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Dan Horth wrote:

> uhm - so it *is* possible to recover data that has been overwritten? 
> in my understanding once you write 1s and 0s over every sector of the 
> HD there should be no way of knowing whether the sector was a 1 or a 
> 0 before being overwritten?
> 
> I thought that the data was insecure (recoverable) only when the 
> directory file was deleted - but the sectors are not overwritten...
> 
> I just find it kinda hard to imagine that someone would be able to 
> work out what the data was in a sector if it was overwritten by 
> completely new (even all null) data... whether it be consistent or 
> random...
> 
> hmm... not really sure if there's a point here... but it sure beats 
> talking about elections in a country that I'm not in! ;)
> 
> At 4:07 PM -0700 24/10/00, Sam Bayne wrote:
> >Anyway, you stated that you didn't need it to be a really secure 
> >wipe, so it probably doesn't matter, but IIRC it is easier to 
> >recover data overwritten by a consistent pattern than a random mix. 
> >I think more different-pattern wipes are harder to read through than 
> >one pass of any amount of randomness, though.
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