On Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 06:22:57PM -0600, Vidiot wrote:
: > The installer DOES note that it will completely repartition your drives,
: > thus killing whatever was already there. Shame on you for not using the
: > "Custom" option, which lets you choose what to do with your drives.
:
: That is no excuse for the installation to blindly remove partitions without
: double-checking with the user that it is OK to destroy that drive.
There's nothing "blind" about it. It tells you plain as day. You didn't
pay enough attention, and you killed your data. You have nobody to blame
but yourself. It happens to everyone once. This is your turn. Next time,
you will be more careful.
: RedHat's installation has to take a lot of responsibility in this fiasco.
Maybe they could put in a "Hey, did you really read what I just said? I'm
about to kill all of your data. You sure about this?" message, but that
smacks of Microsoft's "Are you sure? Are you really sure? Really and
truly? Sure you mean it?".
: Based upon previous RH installs, those kinds of warnings still gave you
: ample opportunity to tell the installation what drives and paritions are
: to be destroyed, or just mounted after the install. There is no excuse for
: this installation program doing what it did.
I for one appreciate it. I'm sick and tired of having to say yes 3 times
just to get something done. Throw the message up on the screen, I'll read
it, think about it, then act. If I'm not sure, I'll read the docs to find
out what my answer should be.
http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.1-Manual/install-guide/
That says it all. It *clearly* states on the page that discusses
Installation Classes that a "Workstation" install will remove ALL
existing Linux partitions. It also clearly states that a "Server"
install will remove ALL existing partitions of ANY type.
: Yes, I take some responsibility for trusting that RH would do what it has
: done in the past... cover your ass. I believed. Bad belief. The warning
: did not say that the auto feature was NOT going to give you another chance
: to give it a layout.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. The Microsoft mentality. Are you
sure? Are you really sure? Really and truly? Last chance, ok?
The object here isn't to crucify you, or crucify RedHat for their installer.
This is about reading the docs, reading the message that's displayed on the
screen, and not relying on 3 levels of "Are you sure?" messages. Leave
that stuff for the Windows boys & girls.
I recently suffered data loss too. I had a drive fry in my personal
server. Do you see me screaming bloody murder at Western Digital for
not warning me that the drive might fry? No, I accept that disks fry,
and due to my own lack of diligence (I've got a tape drive I could slide
in that machine), I lost some of my data. Some of the data was recovered
from copies on my workstation, Google's caches, and a couple of individuals
who sent me copies of stuff they had saved that I wrote. This time I'm
putting the tape in.
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