On Friday 25 July 2003 10:45 am,
> From: Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:22:28PM -0400, mark wrote:
> > Well, I just read about RH "opening up the development process" to
> > outsiders, over on ZDNet. *Then* I read the "system requirements" for
> > 10: 200MHz for *non-graphical*, 400MHz for graphical...*minimum*.
>
> Which puts it in the range of 4-5 year old hardware, and closer to 7
> years old for text mode. Let's get real - you're simply not going to
> get leading edge features on ancient hardware.
Make that 4-5 for hardware.
>
> I picked up a Athlon XP 2000+ earlier this year for under $400, and
> they're even cheaper now.
This is part of what I originally wrote, and 80% of the responses seem to
ignore what I said, and responded, as you just did, above, to what you
wanted to hear me saying.
Let me rephrase:
first, you think I should get an Athlon XP 2000+, why don't you buy it
for me? Let's see, half the folks in this country (IRS URL on request) live
on, or less than $28, 300/yr. I', personally, with a damn BS in CIS and
over 20 years experience in the field, am coming up on two years out of
work. I can't *afford* new hardware, and neither can the other hundreds of
thousands of tech sector folks who've lost their jobs in the last couple of
years.
Next, I put RH 9 on, and once I got IceWM running, it runs quite well,
thankyouverymuch. I, in fact, am not asking for "more features", as someone
here assumed. I just want to be able, as I have in the past years, to
upgrade to newer versions that have all the bugfixes and security fixes.
However, to manage that, I felt that I had to go to 9, with its use of gcc
3.2, and get off gcc 2.95. With the modular kernel, a lot of streamlining
that used to require building the kernel from source has gone away, and I
can pick and choose the modules I want/need. Further, after being a
programmer/software engineer/sysadmin for over 20 years, I didn't feel a
desperate need to Prove My Worth by building Linux from source. My biggest
desire along those lines was to build ALSA, which is the only system that
recognizes my Plug'n'Pray ISA soundcard (I'm out of PCI slots).
My complaint was what has been happening with KDE and Gnome, which just
to *run* anymore are beginning to look as though they're chasing M$ for
bloatware. I also was not aware that there was a way to configure and build
them from source so that they would *not* require all the resources that
they are looking for, and I would expect problems trying to run older
versin of them against the newer kernels and libraries, esp. when running
newer and, at least in the upcoming Phoenix, *smaller* and *faster*
browsers.
There, *now* have I made my complaint clear?
<snip>
And yes, at this point, I think we're getting way off-topic, so I'll stop
here, and if anyone wants to yell at me more, they can come get their abuse
handed back to them, but let's do it offlist.
mark
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