On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 16:27, Rick Warner wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:53, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Gnome and KDE are NOT X implementations any more than GIMP is an X
> > implementation.  Gnome and KDE are X _applications_.  X implementations
> > include the server, the font server, and Xlib, and maybe a few other
> > things.
> 
> Jonathan, we will have to disagree on the semantics.  I believe that a 
> set of related applications and the interface to create them is an
> implementation.  It is not a complete X package as it does not include
> the server (and by the way, a font is server is not required for an
> X server; X existed for years without font servers; font servers just
> make it easy to have one set of fonts for all X servers rather than
> having a local set of all the fonts on each server).
> 
> There is a HUGE difference in the scope of GIMP and Gnome for this
> discussion.  GIMP is pure and simple an X application (client).  Gnome
> is a set of applications and interfaces that are mainly X clients but
> have the specific purpose of managing the user interface.  That, in my
> book, is an implementation.   AFAIK GIMP has no API for managing a UI,
> Gnome does.

Bad example.  what do you think gtk is?  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bhughes]$ rpm -qi gtk2                 
Name        : gtk2                         Relocations: (not
relocateable)
Version     : 2.0.2                             Vendor: Red Hat, Inc.
Release     : 4                             Build Date: Mon 15 Apr 2002
04:56:00 PM CDT
Install date: Mon 30 Dec 2002 12:19:13 PM CST      Build Host:
porky.devel.redhat.com
Group       : System Environment/Libraries   Source RPM:
gtk2-2.0.2-4.src.rpm
Size        : 5414933                          License: LGPL
Packager    : Red Hat, Inc. <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla>
URL         : http://www.gtk.org
Summary     : The GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating GUIs for
X.
Description :
GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user
interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for
projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete application
suites.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bhughes]$ 


IIUC the gimp team built a set of widgets and other tools for this very
purpose. 

Bret


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